Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: dave.woodhall on October 04, 2018, 12:19:30 AM
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A quick one to pass the time:
http://thebirminghampress.com/2018/10/villas-park-situation-again-vacant/
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Well summed up Dave.
The term "dinosaur" comes to mind in reference to Bruce.
Let's just hope and pray that the new owners will bring in someone who is progressive in thinking and approach and we can have football that won't bore us to death.
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Cricketing analogies...... from Dave Woodhall.
Pretty much sums it up for me.
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Glad to be shot of Bruce, but the new manager has got his work cut out for him. We've been left with a leaky defence and three terrible goalkeepers, and no chance of bringing in anyone new until January. Not going to be easy for anyone.
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Are we able to get any of the loans back ?
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Brilliant Dave - just brilliant.
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Spot on, Dave
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Nail on head.
Thank God he's gone, and hopefully more exciting times ahead.
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I think that’s about as accurate a few paragraphs as it’s possible to read on his tenure. It’s regrettable that it’s not likely to be the wider media narrative.
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That sums it up Dave spot on.
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Excellent piece.
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Just heard you on Talksport, Dave.
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I got home and stuck Talksport on just as they were introducing Dave. Well said Dave and obviously helped by the fact that Hawksbee and Jacobs are intelligent blokes and good broadcasters who allow an interviewee to make their points rather than talking over people and pushing their own views.
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That is a very good and balanced summary. I like the cricket analogy too.
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I got home and stuck Talksport on just as they were introducing Dave. Well said Dave and obviously helped by the fact that Hawksbee and Jacobs are intelligent blokes and good broadcasters who allow an interviewee to make their points rather than talking over people and pushing their own views.
That's probably the first time I've listened to talksport in a couple of years (apart from when i'm being given a lift back from the game). They are two of the better broadcasters on there.
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That is a very good and balanced summary. I like the cricket analogy too.
As a big cricket fan, I think the comparison to Yorkshire's finest rings true. A player with Boycott's ability and technique could of course still make runs in the modern game, but his style would be seen as dour and unattractive. Things would soon unravel though if he tried to move away from his natural game and play more expansively.
That's what I never really understood with Bruce. His natural approach is to be direct, solid at the back and quick on the break yet he never really put together a side capable of playing that way. Warnock proved last season that although that type of football is not easy on the eye, it can be effective if it is done properly. I lost count of the number of games I have saw under Bruce where a procession of long balls were pumped up to Hogan and Kodjia, who are both incapable (and at times unwilling) to compete with the type of centre halves who operate in the Championship. That type of football relies on having the kind of energetic midfielders who will get about and win second balls, but again he never really brought that type in. To hit teams on the break, you need players with pace out wide who can make up ground quickly, but we played a lot of last season with wingers on their 'wrong' side so they were continually forced to turn back on to their stronger foot. We had a team of players capable of getting on the ball and playing good football, but didn't play a passing game either.
As John Percy said, it was just a mess and he never really looked like solving the problem.
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That is a very good and balanced summary. I like the cricket analogy too.
As a big cricket fan, I think the comparison to Yorkshire's finest rings true. A player with Boycott's ability and technique could of course still make runs in the modern game, but his style would be seen as dour and unattractive. Things would soon unravel though if he tried to move away from his natural game and play more expansively.
To elaborate on the cricketing metaphor, Bruce was from the era when a test team would be happy to be 250-5 at the end of day one, with him having grafted to 100 not out because the most important thing was to stay at one end while the big hitters were at the other. Then along came teams who could hit 350-400 in a day with both batsmen scoring quickly. And that's from someone who never worked out which side they kick off from.
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That is a very good and balanced summary. I like the cricket analogy too.
As a big cricket fan, I think the comparison to Yorkshire's finest rings true. A player with Boycott's ability and technique could of course still make runs in the modern game, but his style would be seen as dour and unattractive. Things would soon unravel though if he tried to move away from his natural game and play more expansively.
That's what I never really understood with Bruce. His natural approach is to be direct, solid at the back and quick on the break yet he never really put together a side capable of playing that way. Warnock proved last season that although that type of football is not easy on the eye, it can be effective if it is done properly. I lost count of the number of games I have saw under Bruce where a procession of long balls were pumped up to Hogan and Kodjia, who are both incapable (and at times unwilling) to compete with the type of centre halves who operate in the Championship. That type of football relies on having the kind of energetic midfielders who will get about and win second balls, but again he never really brought that type in. To hit teams on the break, you need players with pace out wide who can make up ground quickly, but we played a lot of last season with wingers on their 'wrong' side so they were continually forced to turn back on to their stronger foot. We had a team of players capable of getting on the ball and playing good football, but didn't play a passing game either.
As John Percy said, it was just a mess and he never really looked like solving the problem.
I liked the Post article but I don't know cricket so I don't know that bit.
I could compare Steve Bruce to Barry from EastEnders/Extras .
And now known forever as Barry from EastEnders he self paradoy of a type of losing nice guy character.
Bruce is s paradoy of a certain type of football manager .
Both are dated stereotypes that some still like to being played out as current
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Lovely summary. Dave, do you have a preferred choice of next Manager?
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Lovely summary. Dave, do you have a preferred choice of next Manager?
I'd go for Brendan Rodgers. he's done all he can at Celtic, I don't think he's going to hang on another three years to get the ten in a row and he might think he's got unfinished business in England.
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Lovely summary. Dave, do you have a preferred choice of next Manager?
I'd go for Brendan Rodgers. he's done all he can at Celtic, I don't think he's going to hang on another three years to get the ten in a row and he might think he's got unfinished business in England.
I agree. I'd be more than happy with that. If he could do to us what he did with Swansea, including the type of football, it would be great. No connection to Mendes, but I guess we only read that we have asked him to be involved in the press.
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Is the Talksport interview available online?
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Is the Talksport interview available online?
Teacher's pet. ;)
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I like the cricket analogy