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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: UK Redsox on August 22, 2018, 06:47:17 PM
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Jedi at centre half again. >:(
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Jedinak, Elmo wide, and Whelan, yikes. Oh well win please Villa.
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So frustrating it's an aged and slow line up again
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Also good to see Villa reverting to an old school 1 to 11 numbering system
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I wish Axel was playing there instead of Jedinak It would make more sense.
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I wish Axel was playing there instead of Jedinak It would make more sense.
It would.
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So frustrating it's an aged and slow line up again
No clean sheet tonight then...
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Not thrilled with that but fingers crossed.
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Hopefully a winger or two arriving will give Albert a kick up the arse.
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Jesus. Jediknackersyard in defence again. Does Fistface want the sack?
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Bruce is so frustrating with his selections. A ideal line up for Brentford to pass around.
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Bruce doesn't fancy Elphick at all, come on Villa win.
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Jedinak, Elmo wide, and Whelan, yikes. Oh well win please Villa.
Man, I can't wait until all these new arrivals force Bruce to play front foot football. Elmo and Whelan in the midfield against Brentford.. come on Steve.
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He hasn't been outstanding in a Villa shirt by any means, but thought this might be one for Lansbury.
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Jedinak twice in a week. Fucking shit. Jedinak at centre half. Fucking shit.
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Jedinak twice in a week. Fucking shit. Jedinak at centre half. Fucking shit.
He said at the end of last season that he should have refreshed the side with so many games more often then picks Jedi again.
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Jesus what does he have to do to realise Jedi isn’t a centre half and Axel isn’t a right back.
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He’s made a rod for his own back. Bruce just won’t fucking change. Why on earth continue to play a CB at RB, a DM at CB and he’s even gone and stuck Grandpa Whelan in at CM. He’ll be chasing shadows. And where the fuck is RDL?
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Jedi and Whelan both on park. FFS they're going to beat us aren't they?
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Seems like we've learnt nothing from previous games against decent footballing sides. Whelan and Jedinak on the pitch? Way too immobile
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So play a team who pass it around at pace and plonk your oldest and slowest in...... Well Brucey I hope you prove me wrong but that looks ideal to get torn a new one to me!
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Jesus. Jediknackersyard in defence again. Does Fistface want the sack?
jedinakersyard haha.....add glen wheelchair.....full of pace us
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No surprises in that team selection.
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Unlikely I know, but could be Tuanzebe in the middle, Hutton left and Elmo right back, with Jedi in midfield.
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So a centre midfielder at centre back, a centre back at right back, a right back at right wing, this looks very poor against a side who play like a team. Centre of the park looks dangerously slow.
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Unlikely I know, but could be Tuanzebe in the middle, Hutton left and Elmo right back, with Jedi in midfield.
*Crosses fingers*
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He’s getting right on my nerves with these selections. He’s a bloody nightmare.
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I've had Chester to score anytime and Villa to win @ 20/1
It's the Villa win bit that worries me!
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Unlikely I know, but could be Tuanzebe in the middle, Hutton left and Elmo right back, with Jedi in midfield.
*Crosses fingers*
Haha think through it logically and then consider who the manager is
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Look, both clubs are in the same place at the same time tonight. Can we just swap managers and shake hands?
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It's almost like Bruce wants to get the sack ...
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Unlikely I know, but could be Tuanzebe in the middle, Hutton left and Elmo right back, with Jedi in midfield.
*Crosses fingers*
Haha think through it logically and then consider who the manager is
Ha yea and that would be mean Jedinak and Whelan in midfield...pace to burn...
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ffs Bruce
and where is RDL too.
Jedi at CB again .. hes shite there
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Unlikely I know, but could be Tuanzebe in the middle, Hutton left and Elmo right back, with Jedi in midfield.
*Crosses fingers*
Whelan and Jedinak as a midfield two...at home v Brentford 🤨
Jedi will be centre back but it's an awful team selection. Not a fan of leaving Hourihanes goal threat on the bench either.
Its an awful team selection, truly awful and I've defended Bruce a lot on here
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I just don't get Bruce. He frustrates the hell out of me.
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Another selection that pushes him closer to the door. He’s never had to set a team up to win a game.
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As everybody at Ipswich was saying, you can't play Jedinak that deep. He is too error prone and errors in deep positions are terminal. If he does it further up the pitch, and he will, there might be some chance of mopping his mistakes up.
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That line-up doesn't surprise me in the least tbh. I've no doubt the mighty Brentford have been rubbing their hands together since they saw it. 'Sake. ::)
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Dick.
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If one detach oneself from the emotional reaction...you have to feel bad for Bruce.
Even IF his team makes promotion he can never last at the higher level. Its always going to be unacceptable to
manage that amount of talent and being unable to consistently harness it into a football philosophy that will placate the fans.
It doesn't matter if its Villa, Hull, Wigan or even some B-team ... you play unimaginable negative football with a talented team and hit a rough patch....its game over and next club. That is the real pattern for Bruce...not the promotion specialist who is always backstabbed by fans and owners.
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As everybody at Ipswich was saying, you can't play Jedinak that deep. He is too error prone and errors in deep positions are terminal. If he does it further up the pitch, and he will, there might be some chance of mopping his mistakes up.
That says to me he shouldn’t play full stop.
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has Bruce had a chemical face peel
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Dick.
It’s possible that the Championship has actually progressed past Bruce.
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Win FFS. And play some good football. Brentford will try to do the latter
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That line up does not inspire or fill me with optimism - prove me wrong SB
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That line up does not inspire or fill me with optimism - prove me wrong SB
thats what i said on Saturday
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Anybody get any streams? I'm out the county and can't access my sky account
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Think I'm going to struggle with a kit colour clash tonight, blind bastard that I am!
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Four transfer windows and he is still starting with at least three players out of position. Unfathomable.
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What beautiful coiffed hair our GK has
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I don't think Jedinak should be in the team it's just that he is less dangerous further up the pitch.
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Grealish seems like a proper lovely bloke in the way he was chatting to that poor young chap.
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FFS, two dark shirt colours, who thought that was OK?
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Trying to get this free through my Sky Questions but can't seem to get it to work. Is there a particular way I need to access it? I can't find the other games either
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McGinn effort
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Think I'm going to struggle with a kit colour clash tonight, blind bastard that I am!
Me too, brown and claret aren’t different enough, especially on TV.
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our goalie is playing for them
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Think I'm going to struggle with a kit colour clash tonight, blind bastard that I am!
Me too, brown and claret aren’t different enough, especially on TV.
Try watching it on black and white with a wire hanger for an antenna. Bloody nightmare.
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Just remembered that this is a local derby for me. If I see any of their muggy little 'top' boys taking the piss I'll break the neck off a bottle of my truffle oil and take a hostage in the fromagarie up the street until they show us some respect.
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started ok
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You should have kept up the payments on your colour telly TV.
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Good press so far.
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Decent start
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Cracking little footballer, but McGinn doesn’t half look like he was in Deliverance.
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McCormack looks like he was in Deliveroo.
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McCormack looks like he was in Deliveroo.
*applause*
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well done Axel
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Super defending Tuanzebe after Chester was done.
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I already love McGinn. He's just the kind of player I like
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Chester close from McGinn’s free kick
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McGinn can really cross into the box...let hope our coaches never tries to teach him how we usually do it.
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Lovely play by Jack. Decent shot
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That Grealish bloke is playing well for them, broken up a few of our attacks.
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Stupid foul by Kodjia. Yellow card
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Try to float them John. Try to float them.
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Stupid from Kodjia. Could have walked for that.
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Blimey that’s a poor challenge.
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26 on 26 crime
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Nasty challenge by Kod.
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Should have walked for it.
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I'm only watching on the TV but the kit colours are a bit too similar for me in that they're both quite dark.
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26 on 26 crime
Probably thought it was Appleyard.
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Utterly brainless by Kodjia. Not even subtle.
You save those ones for the Fulham/West Ham twat of a full-back.
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Just remembered that this is a local derby for me. If I see any of their muggy little 'top' boys taking the piss I'll break the neck off a bottle of my truffle oil and take a hostage in the fromagarie up the street until they show us some respect.
Just bombard them with handfuls of quinoa until they back off.
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Fuck close. Jack should have pulled the trigger earlier
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whelen does a neves
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Decent start to be fair.
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Close, great cross by Whelan, their keeper is even dodgier than ours.
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We’re doing ok here. Need to get the goal our possession and play deserves.
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Every time Kodjia gets ball up front he's isolated. Their keeper looks poss dicey.
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We need to score when we’re on top.
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Apart from a couple of silly lapses in concentration this isn't bad at all.
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There we go.
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We're playing well but they've still caused us problems a couple of times, we need a goal.
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hutton giving the fecker away
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Bollocks.
Turned over on the break.
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FUCKING HELL
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Lots of energy but no shape or obvious plan.
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One up front ffs
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Hutton fucking miles off the pace.
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That’s terrible.
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We’re soft in the middle
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How horrifically predictable.
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Jedinak was just floating around in the area like a turd that won’t flush.
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They've started to find their feet now.
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Both Jedinak and Chester ball watching.
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Decent goal, took us apart.
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Good goal. Bastards!
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we need a centre half big style
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Axel should have done better there. Shame we were easily the better team
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Jedi and Whelan heads spinning
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Fuck me Whelan. Keep a hold of the ball
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Isn't no 6 position supposed to pick up those players?
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They've started to find their feet now.
You can say that again.
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Jedi is getting really good at that ‘oh shit’ look.
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Better. Good cross from Albert, Elmo wide but a corner
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Nobody marking the scorer. Shit.
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Started well and yet 1 down and could have been down to 10. Come on Villa ffs
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Too easy. That's Mutton at his best... way out of position getting caught out.
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Take note Steve Bruce, that's how you play to win away from home, you break and take your chances when they arise.
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That was our good 5 minutes.
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We concede far too many goals.
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Brentford starting to knock it about now with speed and intelligence
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Oh dear.
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We look very sloppy now. Needless corner to give away by Hutton
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Should have had a second from that corner.
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hutton giving the fecker away
He did but Albert needs to move his arse away from the touchline. He reduces the space for the pass.
There you go, again. Too bloody close to the touchline.
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Unmarked from a corner, fucking schoolboy defending
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My fucking God. Free header should have been 2
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Brentford finding their groove now. Concede again and jts good night
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Terrible defending again.
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sort the fucking defence out FFS
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Fucking awful defending
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Odds on us failing to keep a single clean sheet this season?
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Look terrible since the goal.
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All we do is go wide. Everything. Go through the fucking middle!
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Steve Bruce, honestly. A professional manager who can't, or won't, see the problem that is obvious to all. Get the fuck out of our club please.
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One up front at home to the mighty Brentford says all you need to know about Bruce - Hopefully the new owners have taken some good advice about a replacement for the dinosaur - it's all very well bringing in some decent players on loan but the minute Bruce and co get control of them they turn to shit
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10 acres of space in front of Chester and he passes it back, ffs.
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One thing's for sure, carry on like this and any notion of keeping Bruce in order to establish stability is dead and buried.
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Nice by Jack but should have taken the shot after the turn
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I have a feeling that as a club we will remain largely moribund until we get a manager who has us playing with some flair.
It's just all way too attritional.
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I really hope we’re getting a centre half in.
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To be fair, been good the last 5 minutes
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It would be great just once if we could score first in a league game and not have to fight back to get something from the game.
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Jack playing deep again...been behind both Axel and Elmo a number of times.
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I really hope we’re getting a centre half in.
We have one at RB. What makes you think if we got a new one he’d be played at CB?
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One thing's for sure, carry on like this and any notion of keeping Bruce in order to establish stability is dead and buried.
He's dog shit.
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I have a feeling that as a club we will remain largely moribund until we get a manager who has us playing with some flair.
It's just all way too attritional.
Step forward Mr Dean Smith!
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jack shoot ffs
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We work hard and create very little.
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I have a feeling that as a club we will remain largely moribund until we get a manager who has us playing with some flair.
It's just all way too attritional.
That is one hell of a longwinded way of saying we play shitty, negative football. Have you been on the podcasts again?
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No fucking movement again.
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I have a feeling that as a club we will remain largely moribund until we get a manager who has us playing with some flair.
It's just all way too attritional.
100% agree.
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Fucking hell we’re not very clinical.
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Good turn and shot by Kodjia. Corner
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Good Kod.
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The Kodj is looking better at least.
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Great from kodge
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I really hope we’re getting a centre half in.
We've got one, but our clueless manager doesn't play him there...
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What are you all moaning at, we are easily the better team undone by a goal and as good as I’ve seen us for a while. How we are losing this I really don’t know, but last year these bastards ran rings around us
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What are you all moaning at, we are easily the better team undone by a goal and as good as I’ve seen us for a while. How we are losing this I really don’t know, but last year these bastards ran rings around us
We are losing though.
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What are you all moaning at
I'm guessing we'd prefer not to be losing.
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Adomah has done nothing since Wolves.
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We are not attacking near post
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Adomah has been so weak.
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Apart from that 8-10 mins we've played well and been the better side, our defence terrifies me though.
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How the fuck is this 0-1
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We’re playong really well, just no end product.
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gggooaalll
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Fucking goal!
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I’m in a hotel in Casablanca, can’t get my VPN working or find any coverage so I’m relying on this thread for updates.
I can’t even have a beer as the hotel is dry.
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Kodjia!!!!!!!
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Yessss near post goal
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Get. The. Fuck. In.
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We're pressing well.
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Thank fuck. Out of jail Bruce.
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SCREAMER KODJIA
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Brilliant goal too.
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He's back!!!
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Get the fuck in
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kod back to his best there
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That’s the Kodjia we all remember and fell in love with
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Excellent! No sooner I write that, we score. Makes it much better!
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That’s the old Kod! Now win Villa, fully deserved.
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GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLL
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kod back to his best there
Unplayable
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Welcome back Jimmy Danger.
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Goal from nothing
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ace goal. McGinn wining that ball in midfield set it up. He is a fucking steal
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Superb the last 5 mins
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Kodjia is back! Great goal, just rewards
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I’m in a hotel in Casablanca, can’t get my VPN working or find any coverage so I’m relying on this thread for updates.
I can’t even have a beer as the hotel is dry.
Get out!!!
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Let's go on and win this now.
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Brilliant centre forward goal made it and finished it.
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Brilliant from Kodja. Class.
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We bloody deserved that.
Well done, Kodja.
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You can't dodge The Kodge.
This referee is a bellend it seems.
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Hallelujah!
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Reckon on how he's played tonight, El Ghazi and Bolasie will probably relish playing with Kodjia.
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Actual strikers goal. That turn on the defender was a sight.
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this ref is shit
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thats a red
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Dunno if anyone else has mentioned it, but their kit's well shite.
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McGinn looking fucked
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Fucking hell ref.
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Red card all day. Fucking abysmal referee. Absolutely disgraceful stamp.
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I’m in a hotel in Casablanca, can’t get my VPN working or find any coverage so I’m relying on this thread for updates.
I can’t even have a beer as the hotel is dry.
Here's looking at you kid !!!!!
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Fucking red card all day long
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The PNE lad got retrospective for his.....Maupay will def for that, prick!
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That's a fucking red. Disgusting.
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Dirty dirty bastard Maupay
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Dirty, dirty bastard.
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Not even a yellow!!!?
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All in all, a fantastic 45 minutes of football. Fuck you PL!
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Litle ole Brentford eh. Joke
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Dirty bastard!
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Fucking hell Albert I can see why we need a new winger
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That Maupay better get a ban the little twat.
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If there's no ban for that it will be disgraceful.
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I’m in a hotel in Casablanca, can’t get my VPN working or find any coverage so I’m relying on this thread for updates.
I can’t even have a beer as the hotel is dry.
Here's looking at you kid !!!!!
Would be nice if I could even find a gin bar to make a return comment. But I can’t!
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elmo .... final ball let down
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Who is the ref tonight?
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Poor Elmo. Fuck
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Brentford are being Brentford'ed!
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Who is the ref tonight?
Old man Moss
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Best we've played since roasting Wolves. Need a centre half and we're promoted.
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Adomah looks fucked
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We've played well, apart from Albert has been shite and the defence is a worry. This is how we should be playing a lot more often.
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It'd be excellent if either of our wingers could cross.
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Played really well. Poor from the official, we have to be more ruthless up front and the concern is the defence. V frustrating but equally credit, they've done well
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wanker ref
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There should be scope for incidents like that to take action at half time when the ref has a chance to see it again.
Yes, that fucktard might get a retrospective ban. But Brentford can plan around that. Why should they continue to play out this one with XI.
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That Maupue is a dirty ******.
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Ref you wanker. We were on the break and calls HT
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Well if the official wasn't incompetent then feck knows how it would be going as Kod would have been off.
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Played really well, now win the game in the second half.
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Who is the ref tonight?
Old man Moss
Thanks Tuscans .....he never does us any favours
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Played some really good stuff after they scored. Ref has been awful, never liked Culture Club.
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I don't fault the ref for not giving Maupay a red, he's clearly not seen it so it'll be a retrospective ban.
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Brilliant performance, their goal aside. Love this team again. The refereeing in this league is pitiful. That ****** standing on SJM, HOW did he miss that?
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That Maupue is a dirty c***.
What a scumbag that clown is. Retroactive ban?
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We are far superior in all departments. Go for the jugular Villa.
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It's a pretty shit set up if you get demoted from the Premier League other teams in a league below have to suffer from the same shit ref'fing that put him here.
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Ref is fucking useless!
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Quick chat at HT and nominate someone to go after that dirty bastard.
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Stoke down by 2 at home...they supposed to run away easy with automatic promotion this year?
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played well except for the odd lapse at the back
actually thought axel looks ok , there is a player there , maybe at CB
loan albert to Boro , he has lost it
Kod is back
ref is awful
now go and McGinn this Villa
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Final ball in needs to be better. Stamp bastard cheat. Villa much the better side. Lovely goal Jimmy.
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Loved the first half performance, loads of pace, energy and a few chances. Haven't seen that for a while from a Villa team.
Hope that was our poor half.
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It sounded like a crackin' first half (although I am listening on Talkshite 2). Hopefully we'll pick up where we left off after the break. :)
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Did the ref really just blow for half time there? Utterly ridiculous.
Excellent performance going forward. Kodjia has been great with a stormer of a goal.
Poor defending for their goal although Im sure that Tuanzebe got a little nudge from Watkins to create the space. Not sure why he didn't protest it?
As for that dirty ****** Maupey, lets get 2 or 3 goals up and then send on someone dispensible to give him a taste of his own medicine.
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Second half will be interesting. Do you back Smith to motivate his troops or will Stevie boy fuck it up?
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Thank god the ref never sent him off. We're shit against 10 men.
Good half, great pressing, just need Albert and Jack to give Kodja more support in the box. Albert needs to come in more and give himself the option of going wide rather than keeping the linesman company.
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Well if the official wasn't incompetent then feck knows how it would be going as Kod would have been off.
I think Kodj's was more of a brainless centre forwards challenge, if I am being uber generous.
McGinn was already on the deck and the ball was nowhere near when that knobhead raked his studs down his leg.
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Well first home game in years, and despite not expecting much,I thought we played some great stuff. Best half I’ve seen in many a years of coming the last few seasons of premier.
Mginn looks a class act, and has a great eye for a pass. Awesome work for the goal. The right back had a good game and Jack was lively, I think sometime hebwants to walk the ball in the net though.
We do look brittle in defence , I’d rather see a new CH, then Jedi where Whelan is. But going forward we look strong, and have pace. Great goal from Kodj.
Overall very pleased so far
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I hope Malvoy gets a thundering challenge from Jedi to equalise his dirty stamp on John.
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was there a foul on Albert before the goal too?
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To be fair I read this wrong before the game , jack and sJM playing 10 yards higher up the pitch and we're pressing the crap out of them
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Quick chat at HT and nominate someone to go after that dirty bastard.
I’ll do it for free.
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Kod's was nowhere near as deliberate as that stamp, I still wouldn't have had any complaints if he'd gone and we'd be livid if that Kod challenge had been one of theirs on him.
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Thank god the ref never sent him off. We're shit against 10 men.
Good half, great pressing, just need Albert and Jack to give Kodja more support in the box. Albert needs to come in more and give himself the option of going wide rather than keeping the linesman company.
Spot on Rudy! 10 men and we are fucked, they need to be encouraged to come at us
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Looking at Tuanzebe, he looks strong and very quick to recover. Can't believe Bruce thinks Jedi is better at centre back.
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Was the foul on mcginn as bad as it looked from the Holte ?
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Was the foul on mcginn as bad as it looked from the Holte ?
Worse. Both feet off the ground and clear intent.
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Was the foul on mcginn as bad as it looked from the Holte ?
The stamp was. Deliberate and cowardly.
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The future is looking good chaps, thank God we are not Stoke!
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Was the foul on mcginn as bad as it looked from the Holte ?
The stamp was. Deliberate and cowardly.
And just nasty, he wasn’t even the player making the tackle.
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I'd love it if
challenges assaults like that were an automatic 10-15 game ban, and i'd say the same if one of ours did it. I hate players doing that.
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Kod's was nowhere near as deliberate as that stamp, I still wouldn't have had any complaints if he'd gone and we'd be livid if that Kod challenge had been one of theirs on him.
Jimmys was a pro, muppets was as horrendous as you'll ever see.
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Mginn looks a class act, and has a great eye for a pass. Awesome work for the goal.
Indeed. Great little tackle to start the move off. I'm convinced his Alex Cropley's son.
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Was the foul on mcginn as bad as it looked from the Holte ?
McGinn already on the ground, no ball close and the runs over and tries to maim him... horrific.
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ffs elmo sort it out
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save goalie
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Well done Nyland
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Good goalkeeping.
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Come on Villa be clinical.
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I know he's not playing great, but it's a shit that groans are going up now whenever the ball gets near Albert. Think I even heard a few boos first half.
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If Jack could add something to the last bit of his game he’d be some player. So silky
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Centre half please Bruce.
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Nyland saved a terrible Jedi header.
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Well done Nyland
That should do his confidence some good.
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Tuanzebe looks improved since last season
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Albert has no burst at all tonight. Looks very heavy legged
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I'm getting a feeling.
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Jack has been quite wasteful tonight.
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how many half chances
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Awareness from Kodja lacking, would be a corner if not attempted
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Bolasie getting love in the stands
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Jack has been quite wasteful tonight.
Every pass to Albert around the box is a waste tonight.
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Come on Villa just win the game.
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Well, never watched The Villa on a ferry before. Leaving Santander harbour. It’s bound to be lucky.... Just like them pants were.
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I'm getting a feeling.
Indigestion?
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I'm getting a feeling.
Me too, no matter what happens tonight it’s looking good
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Jack has been quite wasteful tonight.
Agreed.
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axel brilliant balll
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Bolasie getting love in the stands
He's not there is he?
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Lovely build up again by Jack. He needs to make better decisions at the end. Not the first time tonight
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play like this and I won’t have a problem with Bruce
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Couple this with hopefully our new signings and i’m Getting a bit of a feeling too.
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Enjoying this. Feels....odd.
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Bolasie getting love in the stands
He's not there is he?
In the Director’s box
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if this aint 10 -1
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This Tuanzebe kid is bloody excellent.
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Come on Villa just score
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I know he's not playing great, but it's a shit that groans are going up now whenever the ball gets near Albert. Think I even heard a few boos first half.
I think it's pretty harsh, he's not a left winger but a run of goals last year has Bruce convinced that's where he should be. As soon as the goals dried up and the confidence they gave him was gone he started to look like he was lost and he's not recovered. That's why his positioning is poor, it's why he's second guessing himself and it's why he needs to be played on the right or not played, for now.
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Enjoying this. Feels....odd.
It’s Villa. We need to score. Plenty of time to fuck it up.
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Come on me babs!
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Time and again Grealish is in space at the edge of the box and he turns away and lays it off. Doing my head in. Drive on, kid!
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Better from Albert.
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Mofo... close jk
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You can see what we’re missing and the new signings will hopefully go a long way to address that. Just need to be much better and more clinical in the final third.
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chance there for kod
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Kodjia should have scored. Lovely cross from Albert
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Bolasie getting love in the stands
He's not there is he?
In the Director’s box
Blimey, that's brilliant news! Cheers TV ;)
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Much better Albert. Come on Villa we deserve to win.
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Bring Green on for Albert in the next 5-10
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This team + a decent centre half and the new boys is a shoe in for auto promotion.
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Kodjia should have scored. Lovely cross from Albert
Yup, deserved a goal.
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McGiniesta 😫🤐🤐😁
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Bring Green on for Albert in the next 5-10
Don't think Brian has his boots.
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As co-commentators go Higgenbotham is good.
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We have been so dominant. We simply have to find another goal or two and finish this off.
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You get the feeling from this that if we score one more, we’ll score a few more. Just need to open the floodgates
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Come on Villa please.
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Albert outside of a couple of decent crosses just doesn’t look sharp and quick.
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You get the feeling from this that if we score one more, we’ll score a few more. Just need to open the floodgates
I'll give you a hand mate?
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Our crosses are pretty shite. Need to work hard on them
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That’s never a yellow card for Chester
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play like this and I won’t have a problem with Bruce
Agree completely, this is how we should be playing, we're getting our attacking players on the ball in much better areas because the defence isn't as deep as normal and Mcginn and Grealish are pressing into their midfield and not letting them boss things. Add to that Kodjia looking fit and in form for the first time in about 15-16 months and we look effective. It's not led to goals but keep working at this and it will do.
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I hate Maupay.
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That number 9 is one to really detest.
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yellow for that ?
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fuck off ref. Just fuck off
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Maupay is a tosser.
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Shit decision, foul but never a booking.
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Green on for Albert
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Wasn't even a foul. He won the ball
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Back for the last 20 minutes.
How have we been?
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Albert off, Andre Green on
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Win the fucking game Villa. Come on Andre.
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Ref is being a tosser, and Maupay is a Poundland Luis Suarez
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The games gone flat. hopefully Green can bring it back to life.
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Back for the last 20 minutes.
How have we been?
Brilliant aside from a centre half, a shit ref and our final ball
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Albert off, Andre Green on
Well called that man.
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Good save from Nyland.
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Saved Nyland.
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We’ve run out of steam and ideas it seems.
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Need to get the tempo we were playing at back
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save goalie
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Save Nyland.
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Excellent save again from Nyland
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We’re falling off here.
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Back for the last 20 minutes.
How have we been?
Brilliant aside from a centre half, a shit ref and our final ball
Cheers. Typical that I miss an entertaining game instead of one where we play like twats!
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Bruce out!
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Hmm our energy has dropped. Good Whelan.
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They are well on top now.
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Fuck me. We’re starting to get run over in midfield. Whelan has been good but get one of Jedinak or Whelan off and BB on.
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I’d get Hourihane on.
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We start the "we are scared" period and play frantically
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Make some changes Bruce FFS
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Cmon Villa, keep a cool head - we can still do this
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Stoke 0 Wigan 3, blimey.
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Fuckng hell Green
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Super John mcginn
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Stoke 0 Wigan 3, blimey.
That's the Championship for you.
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green looks well out of form
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Green shell shocked
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Green somehow managed to look worse then Albert after coming on :(
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Green hasn’t had the best impact.
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Greens had a mare
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We are at fucking eights and nines let alone sixes and sevens at the back
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Green shell shocked
Looks like he’s shitting himself. Has been very poor.
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Green looks shit, and unlike Albert he doesn't contribute defensively.
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No 7 👏👏👏👏
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Good ole little Brentford...
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We're hanging on here.
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Green shell shocked
I honestly don't blame him. No doubt wondering why he's not in the starting eleven, and now Bruce has brought in 2 other wingers so he hasn't a hope. I'd be out of form at this point too. What's the incentive for him to do well? It doesn't get rewarded.
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Fuuuuckkk.
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Ffs
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Fuck off.
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Been coming.
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Bollocks. Dirty bastard Maupay
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Green shell shocked
I honestly don't blame him. No doubt wondering why he's not in the starting eleven, and now Bruce has brought in 2 other wingers so he hasn't a hope. I'd be out of form at this point too. What's the incentive for him to do well? It doesn't get rewarded.
What a load of bollox.
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Green should be fucking worried. You’d think he’d up his game tonight given a left winger just joined the club.
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Fuck off
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Fucking hell
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Wahey ! Bruce out!
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Been coming.
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That ****** shouldn’t even be on the pitch.
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Hey how about that it's a catastrophe.
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Nyland was shit there.
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Had to be that Maupay dick.
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no one comes out of that with any credit. Whelan looks to only have 60-70 minutes in him, less said about the back four and keeper the better.
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This fucking league is a joke.
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One trick Bruce out.
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ffs you could see it happening we ran out of ideas . green has been shit and elmo poor this half ,,,
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We’ve been to wasteful.
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Hourihane for Axel.
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Fucking hell. Knew that twat would score again.
And what the fuck is that substitution?
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Best we’ve played this season
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It’s been coming for the past 10 min. Bruce just didn’t act fast enough. And instead of taking off and older player he’s taken off our best fucking defender for Hourihane.
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Fucking hell, good save to stop it being 3
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Completely undeserved in all ways. We absolutely need a new centre half. That should be the absolute focus for the club before the end of this transfer window.
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Defence all over the place.
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RHM on for Elmo and Hourihane on for Whelan for me, get some more energy into the game.
Green looks like he's playing in his head, he's overthinking everything so it looks forced.
Nyland needs to be stronger there.
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RHM coming on.
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We are now having a mare. They will score again.
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Bloody TYPICAL! >:(
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Substitutions took way too long. Was easy to see they were getting on top and we wait for them to score before making changes.
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Completely undeserved in all ways. We absolutely need a new centre half. That should be the absolute focus for the club before the end of this transfer window.
Bollox
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Bogey team. Dirty ****** to boot.
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We’re paying the price for being wasteful. Got to be honest I don’t think Jack has been great tonight.
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Why didn’t Jedinak maim the twat?
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Completely undeserved in all ways. We absolutely need a new centre half. That should be the absolute focus for the club before the end of this transfer window.
Bollox
Fuck off you bellend
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I could fucking cry.. just can't take this shit anymore.
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When they've been on top they've scored twice, when we've been on top were not clinical enough.
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Best we’ve played this season
Best first half.
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Might have helped if he DIDN'T PLAY A CENTRE-BACK AT RIGHT-BACK AND A DEFENSIVE MIDFIELDER AT CENTRE-BACK. THIS MIGHT JUST HELP. JUST FUCKING MIGHT.
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throw on another striker and lose our shape......
fine margins, but ipswich and now this means bruce should be under pressure
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We've played well for the most part but defensively we've looked awful a number of times.
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We're shipping goals at the moment. If a Bruce team isn't tight at the back then the whole thing falls down.
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Completely undeserved in all ways. We absolutely need a new centre half. That should be the absolute focus for the club before the end of this transfer window.
Bollox
Fuck off you bellend
Less of that, you know the rules.
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Jedinak playing like the reincarnation of Curtis Davies.
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Green shell shocked
I honestly don't blame him. No doubt wondering why he's not in the starting eleven, and now Bruce has brought in 2 other wingers so he hasn't a hope. I'd be out of form at this point too. What's the incentive for him to do well? It doesn't get rewarded.
On the other hand, maybe he just plays well in a couple of pre season games and then just looks fucking wank when the proper stuff starts.
I do get a bit fed up of reading the constant excuses our youth players get on here even when they've usually done nothing of merit, ever.
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i suspect one reason we might be shit defensively is that we've got a midfielder at CB, a CB at RB and a frightening goalkeeper
Still, we've got plenty of wingers.
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If you fail to replace a player of Terry's undoubted quality, you're going to ship more goals.
We won't go up with this bang average defence.
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I am so fucking tired of Steve F Bruce
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Completely undeserved in all ways. We absolutely need a new centre half. That should be the absolute focus for the club before the end of this transfer window.
Bollox
Fuck off you bellend
Less of that please.
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Cockwobbble... Only Nyland keeping a slight hope
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Embarrassingly one sided at the end.
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Oh dear
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Jedinak playing like the reincarnation of Curtis Davies.
Jedinak's playing like a pub landlady. I'd have killed for a pub player tonight at CB.
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Our defence is utterly hopeless
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LOL We are a fucking disaster at the back
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RHM on for Elmo and Hourihane on for Whelan for me, get some more energy into the game.
Green looks like he's playing in his head, he's overthinking everything so it looks forced.
Nyland needs to be stronger there.
You summed the goal up well. Not exactly one for the bloopers DVD, but he should have done better.
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Green can run fast and has a bit of a shot...sometimes. That's all.
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It's not good enough.
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Embarrassing scrambles. That attacker basically stopped in the box and out his foot on the ball. Back to the keystone cops days.
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I miss John Terry.
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We're clinging on for the 1 goal defeat.
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i suspect one reason we might be shit defensively is that we've got a midfielder at CB, a CB at RB and a frightening goalkeeper
Still, we've got plenty of wingers.
That made me chuckle...I miss the days when we had all those full backs
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Our fitness levels seem utterly hopeless as well.
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Subs look so poor
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should have been changes at 65 mins - we ran out of energy and ideas then . The final ball at times wasnt good enough and even Jack kept making the wrong decisions .
We dont deserve to lose at all but SB struggles always to change it
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I miss John Terry.
I miss a good manager more.
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This was coming. Three wins at the start - all in their own way highly fortuitous. Then the draw, now the defeat. It’s almost poetic in how it has played out.
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100% predictable weaknesses and 100% Bruce's fault.
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We've played well for the most part but defensively we've looked awful a number of times.
Howanu saves has their keeper made?
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This was coming. Three wins at the start - all in their own way highly fortuitous. Then the draw, now the defeat. It’s almost poetic in how it has played out.
Ironic that the only game we've played well in, we lose.
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i suspect one reason we might be shit defensively is that we've got a midfielder at CB, a CB at RB and a frightening goalkeeper
Still, we've got plenty of wingers.
That made me chuckle...I miss the days when we had all those full backs
Keeper not looked frightened?
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Disappointing again.
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Make the move now, get rid of Bruce, this isn’t going to get better.
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funny thing is our goalie has made loads of saves compared to theirs
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FFS
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This was coming. Three wins at the start - all in their own way highly fortuitous. Then the draw, now the defeat. It’s almost poetic in how it has played out.
Ironic that the only game we've played well in, we lose.
Indeed, setting up a classic Brucie post-match interview full of all the same nonsense we heard last season.
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Looking forward to the post-match interview with the 'manager'.
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Make the move now, get rid of Bruce, this isn’t going to get better.
This
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This was coming. Three wins at the start - all in their own way highly fortuitous. Then the draw, now the defeat. It’s almost poetic in how it has played out.
Ironic that the only game we've played well in, we lose.
It feels worse in a way. To play so well going forward and get undone by such mickey mouse defending smarts. Imagine how players like adomah feel who have run their balls off to get us back in it.
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Looking forward to the post-match interview with the 'manager'.
"That's the Championship for you. We go again."
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2-2
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Injury time corner, star player takes it, it's set up for, it to go straight out of play.
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Kodjia again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Bruce can still fuck off.
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Fuck off tiny Brentford.
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Fucking have some of that.
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All we deserve
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HAHHAHHAHHAHAA
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Deserved that!
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Ha ha!
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It’s literally amazing how desperately poor Green has been.
YESSSSSSS
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funny thing is our goalie has made loads of saves compared to theirs
yep. Toothless up top and wasteful. We weren't that great.
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Don't care! Draw not acceptable. Fuck off Bruce!
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YYYYYEESSSSSSSS FUCK OFFF YOUP FUCING CUNTSSSSSSSS
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All you big tarts writing us off, I never doubted us for a second!
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Maupay is still a penis. But have that!
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Hell...how strange it is to celebrate saving a point from this game! But still unbeaten!
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Fuck off tiny Brentford.
Fuck off Neal Maupay and Jon Moss.
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We drew. Don't get excited!
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Still time for a third?
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All you big tarts writing us off, I never doubted us for a second!
Love it.
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Make the move now, get rid of Bruce, this isn’t going to get better.
This
Yep, otherwise we’ll stumble through another season.
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Nothing has changed. Get ready for the calculations of how we can get into the play offs. We are well and truly a Championship outfit with a Championship manager.
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Fuck off Brentford, ya scabs don't deserve a thing.
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Bruce can still fuck off.
Amen.
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BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!
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Nothing has changed. Get ready for the calculations of how we can get into the play offs. We are well and truly a Championship outfit with a Championship manager.
Spot on Brian
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Bruce can still fuck off.
Amen.
Yes he can.
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Nothing has changed. Get ready for the calculations of how we can get into the play offs. We are well and truly a Championship outfit with a Championship manager.
Spot on Brian
Agreed
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Still unbeaten and making a habit of scoring in the final seconds.
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Nothing has changed. Get ready for the calculations of how we can get into the play offs. We are well and truly a Championship outfit with a Championship manager.
LOL
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This is the reality for us now. If you asked me three years ago how I felt about a last minute equalizer I'd have probably talked up the drama of it all, that's what football is all about, happened against us for years so it's our turn now.
Now, on a Wednesday night at home against Brentford in the Championship, it's just not good enough. To be relying on get out of jail free cards already at this point of the season, when we should be at peak performance with no excuses, is just shite.
And I can't stand the thought that Bruce is busy patting himself on the back now for a job well done. Big smile. "That's the Championship for you!"
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Nothing has changed. Get ready for the calculations of how we can get into the play offs. We are well and truly a Championship outfit with a Championship manager.
If you are right and given your delicate age it must be very depressing in Brian land. I choose to be more optimistic
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4 points dropped over two games; hey that cancels out our incredible start!
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Bruce can still fuck off.
Amen.
Yes he can.
Yup.
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There were plenty of positives tonight. The pace and tempo we played with for an hour was very good. Adding Ghazi and Bolasie to the mix will only improve that.
Defensively very suspect. Especially after we tired. Bruce took way too long to get fresh legs on. Clear to anyone that Brentford were getting on top.
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This is the reality for us now. If you asked me three years ago how I felt about a last minute equalizer I'd have probably talked up the drama of it all, that's what football is all about, happened against us for years so it's our turn now.
Now, on a Wednesday night at home against Brentford in the Championship, it's just not good enough. To be relying on get out of jail free cards already at this point of the season, when we should be at peak performance with no excuses, is just shite.
And I can't stand the thought that Bruce is busy patting himself on the back now for a job well done. Big smile. "That's the Championship for you!"
I am sorry for our little disagreement, but you are talking bollocks again. We were relegated, being the outstandingly shite team in the premier league for a number of years. Remi Garde, coming after a series of shit managers, was a complete disaster of an experiment and we never recovered. Until... Bruce has stabilised the club. We were a total joke until he came in. He is way far off perfect. He is limited for sure. But if you think he is patting himself on the back for a home draw... Nah.
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Make the move now, get rid of Bruce, this isn’t going to get better.
This
Was saying this before we equalised.
Good first half. Average second. Showed our aging squad with little quality to bring on
We need a centre half. Badly
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This is the reality for us now. If you asked me three years ago how I felt about a last minute equalizer I'd have probably talked up the drama of it all, that's what football is all about, happened against us for years so it's our turn now.
Now, on a Wednesday night at home against Brentford in the Championship, it's just not good enough. To be relying on get out of jail free cards already at this point of the season, when we should be at peak performance with no excuses, is just shite.
And I can't stand the thought that Bruce is busy patting himself on the back now for a job well done. Big smile. "That's the Championship for you!"
I am sorry for our little disagreement, but you are talking bollocks again. We were relegated, being the outstandingly shite team in the premier league for a number of years. Remi Garde, coming after a series of shit managers, was a complete disaster of an experiment and we never recovered. Until... Bruce has stabilised the club. We were a total joke until he came in. He is way far off perfect. He is limited for sure. But if you think he is patting himself on the back for a home draw... Nah.
If you really think that, let's see him make the changes required next game then. Starting with Jedinak nowhere near centre-half and Whelan nowhere near the first team.
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Ffs will you lot get real. We were at the point of no return. Rescued at the last minute by a couple of blokes who we all know nothing about, and now we are scrambling to get a team together. Judge us in 3 weeks
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This is the reality for us now. If you asked me three years ago how I felt about a last minute equalizer I'd have probably talked up the drama of it all, that's what football is all about, happened against us for years so it's our turn now.
Now, on a Wednesday night at home against Brentford in the Championship, it's just not good enough. To be relying on get out of jail free cards already at this point of the season, when we should be at peak performance with no excuses, is just shite.
And I can't stand the thought that Bruce is busy patting himself on the back now for a job well done. Big smile. "That's the Championship for you!"
I am sorry for our little disagreement, but you are talking bollocks again. We were relegated, being the outstandingly shite team in the premier league for a number of years. Remi Garde, coming after a series of shit managers, was a complete disaster of an experiment and we never recovered. Until... Bruce has stabilised the club. We were a total joke until he came in. He is way far off perfect. He is limited for sure. But if you think he is patting himself on the back for a home draw... Nah.
You were wrong, btw. Bruce is delighted with the result.