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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on August 14, 2018, 06:47:13 PM
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Mixed it up a bit. Good to see RHM up front. We should still have more than enough to win this.
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Some interesting changes. Could be a banana skin but a good chance for a bunch of these to show what they're made of
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Good to see RDL back!
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I think that's a decent line up.
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Will be nice to see Axel at centre back.
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Will be nice to see Axel at centre back.
It will but having to play alongside Elphick will be nerve wracking.
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Good line up. Plenty of chances to impress for the younger players, and some bigger names on the bench if look in danger of fucking it up.
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Good line up. Plenty of chances to impress for the younger players, and some bigger names on the bench if look in danger of fucking it up.
Agreed.
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By George !!
I think he’ s got it.
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Would have liked to see Kod start. He needs goal scoring opportunities
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Would have liked to see Kod start. He needs goal scoring opportunities
He'd batter them.
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His plaice is up for grabs.
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Looking forward to seeing JDH tonight, hoping he’s going to be our future engine room
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Looking forward to seeing JDH tonight, hoping he’s going to be our future engine room
Me too. Be interesting to see how he gets on.
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Tayls the pitchside commentator.
Don’t you just bloody love him.
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His plaice is up for grabs.
Another punathon - I thought you might chip in with one Brian
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Tayls the pitchside commentator.
Don’t you just bloody love him.
Heart and soul of the club
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Tayls the pitchside commentator.
Don’t you just bloody love him.
Heart and soul of the club
Sorry should have said sole
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Blimey, what’s going on? Another s sensible line up! I like it.
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You know me I always have to put my fourpennorth in.
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Elphick skipper
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50 shades of grey is in goal
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A proper back four all playing in position. Hurrah.
Hopefully we'll net a few too.
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What the fuck are we wearing???
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The Russian’s number is in a better location today
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Pitch looks nice for a lower league ground, keep it on the deck please Villa!
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What the fuck are we wearing???
A very nice new third kit.
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What the fuck are we wearing???
A very nice new third kit.
It's bloody ugly. Sports Direct/Lidl shite.
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We have been pretty shite so far. Come on Villa. Be nice not to add another dismal cup result to our collection.
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Neil Taylor is certainly our most consistent player.
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Seamless transition between shapeless team tactics on saturday to Tuesday
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Come on, Villa
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Blimey that was close
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Conor lucky not to get booked
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We have been pretty shite so far. Come on Villa. Be nice not to add another dismal cup result to our collection.
It's looking like we've approached it as a pre-season friendly to get a few players up to match speed.
I said earlier to keep it on the deck, but what is the point of passing it square at the back, eventually to Tuanzebe and no one giving him an out? It's either then hoof or get caught in possession.
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This is a classic Villa v lower league rubbish in the cup performance.
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Not many staking a claim to get into the first team for Saturday.
When I say not many, I mean none of them.
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We're looking good, you can see the gulf in class as we're streets ahead of them. Not sure about our green and white third kit though.
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Dire first 20
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You'd never guess we'd made 9 changes from Saturday.
10 if you count Axel's shift in position.
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Garbage up to yet.
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Typical slow start, let the opposition get a foothold and grow their confidence.
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We're looking good, you can see the gulf in class as we're streets ahead of them. Not sure about our green and white third kit though.
😁
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is our third kit Green and white then?
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I blame the kit.Must be invisible to each other.
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We're looking good, you can see the gulf in class as we're streets ahead of them. Not sure about our green and white third kit though.
Gorgeous
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houriane doing a Jedi
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Fully deserved booking for Hourihane
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Hourihane epitomises the negative approach out there.
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Sloppy by Hourihane
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They have just said in the SKY commentary that Spurs' first/opening bid for Jack Grealish was three million quid and Josh Onomah.
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First real chance for The Russian
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Better. Hint of pass and move.
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They have just said in the SKY commentary that Spurs' first/opening bid for Jack Grealish was three million quid and Josh Onomah.
I hope our reply involved the words off, fuck, ****** and you.
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Thank you Mr Levy, your humble servant we remain.
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The one time Whelan goes forward we look good
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They have just said in the SKY commentary that Spurs' first/opening bid for Jack Grealish was three million quid and Josh Onomah.
Yup. Typical Levy. If he'd made a proper offer when we looked in the shit financially he'd have got his man. Egg firmly on face
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They have just said in the SKY commentary that Spurs' first/opening bid for Jack Grealish was three million quid and Josh Onomah.
I hope our reply involved the words off, fuck, c*** and you.
They can't afford more as they have to pay for their ground.. fuck ,em..
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I feel a goal coming.......
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Axel looking a lot better at CH
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Levy has seen the final account for the new stadium and shit his pants.
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Is Taylor even related to a footballer?
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Is Taylor even related to a footballer?
No.
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Is Taylor even related to a footballer?
An Aussie rules one?
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Looks like the Blues will be set free to concentrate on avoiding relegation.
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He is Ian Taylor's granddad.
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What is wrong with Conor?!? He’s playing shite
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What the fuck is Hourihane on???
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You could quite easily replace Taylor and Hourihane with incoming loans tonight.
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Well. This is shit. Got to get the younger players some time in a competitive match though, so ok. I want to win though, so sort it fucking out, Villa.
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What is wrong with Conor?!? He’s playing shite
wont be playing the next game then
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honestly heard more noise down at Newport Pagnell town and there's normaly about 120 in
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nice green
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Good shot from Green
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Great by Green
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Treat this as a friendly and haul both Hourihane and Taylor off at ht.
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Got away with that one on one
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Bollocks
Disallowed phew.
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he thinks hes scored haa haa
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Why was that disallowed ?
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what happened there then?
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Ermmm... why wasn't that a goal?
Got lucky there twice in a row.
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Nothing wrong there. Got away with one
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Fuck me we're lucky to be level.
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Foul on the keeper? Very soft.
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This keeper isn't very good is he!
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Hopefully he’ll live to regret that celebration in front of the Villa fans. Twat.
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I don’t think we will be seeing much of this Moriera bloke this season.
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I don’t think we will be seeing much of this Moriera bloke this season.
Sadly not convinced by Nyland either
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Now Doyle Hayes booked
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Giving the l for loser sign to the villa fans there.
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Green doesn’t look like a player who wants to be a first teamer from what I’ve seen this half.
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we are very lucky there
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Was the scorer doing "loser" signals to the Villa fans before the goal was disallowed?
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Absolute shite. Villa lucky. Moreira is shit.
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I don’t think we will be seeing much of this Moriera bloke this season.
Sadly not convinced by Nyland either
Give him a chance, it's one game.
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Ref did us a massive favour there, but keep it at 0-0 till half time and we could still pull off the upset.
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Why is it that in matches like this, we never, ever put on a show?
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Well. This is shit. Got to get the younger players some time in a competitive match though, so ok. I want to win though, so sort it fucking out, Villa.
If you ask me the younger players are our better players so far. Whelan Adomah Taylor all shit
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Crying out for pace in midfield.
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pretty dull
we didnt do much and they should be one up
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Why is it that in matches like this, we never, ever put on a show?
It’s because we’re convinced that our reserves our good when they’re actually not.
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Was that our bad half?
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That last, pathetic, play with virtually our whole team refusing to take responsibility and try to create something sums up our disgusting performance.
Sort it out Villa you twats.
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About five minutes apart where we had some sustained pressure we've been awful and are very fortunate not to be losing.
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In two games a case can be made that we’ve had massive fortune and lucky to have won both. Tonight is an extension of those two games. We could very well win but it won’t for the lack of trying hard not to.
As for Leeds they continue to cruise along under Bielsa.
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Poor overall. Lucky to be level, Green in flashes and Axel the only ones to really look any cop. Against a division 4 side.
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Why is it that in matches like this, we never, ever put on a show?
When you say matches like this......
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It is so noticeable how our midfielders pass the ball and then stand still and watch or just move slightly away from the ball.
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Lazy fuckers. Albert is useless.
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We don't deserve to be in front, and we're not.
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Another Luton Town waiting to happen?
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this is why Bruce pisses me off .. cup games he is useless
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Why is it that in matches like this, we never, ever put on a show?
Oh we put on a show alright. You’d think they’d be busting a gut to show Bruce what they can do. The only one doing that is Tuzanbe and maybe Whelan.
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Very poor 1st half, Hepburn Murphy needs some support up top
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1 shot apart green is awful
No shape
No movement
No fucking idea
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A real sick-bag of a half. Albert is nowhere near a patch on what he was last season.
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Has anyone introduced our players to our goalkeeper?
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Another Luton Town waiting to happen?
That is bit over the top. We haven't looked great but I don't think we will end up as a non league club. ;)
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Imagine if we ever consistently played decent, half watchable football.
We seem to specialise in being particularly shit when we are live on telly, too.
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I watched the second episode of Better Call Saul instead of the first half.
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A 10 minute spell if that against fucking Yeovil. Sort it out fist face.
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Another Luton Town waiting to happen?
Nah, we managed to score against Luton.
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this is why Bruce pisses me off .. cup games he is useless
If only it was just cup games.
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On the plus side with it being so quiet you can Hear Bruce giving instructions in his death metal voice and the players telling the linesman to fuck off.
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Comes to something when Whelan is our best player! I want to see Green through the centre, he's not a winger. RHM is also not a centre forward.
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"What do you expect Steve Bruce to be saying at half time?"
"That's the league cup for you"
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They have just said in the SKY commentary that Spurs' first/opening bid for Jack Grealish was three million quid and Josh Onomah.
I hope our reply involved the words off, fuck, c*** and you.
Even as the commentator said it he had a mixture of disbelief and sarcasm in his voice.
I would love to do a Jimmy Hill style analysis and explain to everyone why their 'goal' was disallowed but having seen it back a couple of times I haven't got a clue why it was ruled out either.
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It is heartening to know that Yeovil are 5/1 to win in 90 mins.
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On the plus side and probably the most important issue is that Tuanzebe looks like a CH
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Load of fucking rubbish so far. Why are they technically better than us?
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Yes he does
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No changes FFS
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Load of fucking rubbish so far. Why are they technically better than us?
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On the plus side and probably the most important issue is that Tuanzebe looks like a CH
Albeit against a fourth tier attack.
Hope he can look as comfortable against a better class of opposition.
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Load of fucking rubbish so far. Why are they technically better than us?
They keep their shape?
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Why is it that in matches like this, we never, ever put on a show?
When you say matches like this......
I assumed he meant football matches.
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"What do you expect Steve Bruce to be saying at half time?"
"That's the league cup for you"
What he should be saying is, get out there, win this, lets get it done, this cup is a potential Championship side competition that can be a boost to a long hard cold winter, getting a semi final place in this would be incredible, just what we need at that point in the season.
I would have thought.
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Absolute shite. Villa lucky. Moreira is shit.
Shit after 45 minutes of football? Well you can't say you didn't give him a chance
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how many times do we hear , he is up there on his own with Bruce teams
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The referee is getting stuck in more than our midfield.
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"What do you expect Steve Bruce to be saying at half time?"
"That's the league cup for you"
What he should be saying is, get out there, win this, lets get it done, this cup is a potential Championship side competition that can be a boost to a long hard cold winter, getting a semi final place in this would be incredible, just what we need at that point in the season.
I would have thought.
I'd hope that he'd pointed this out before they started rather than just waiting to see how it's going at half time.
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Imagine if we ever consistently played decent, half watchable football.
We seem to specialise in being particularly shit when we are live on telly, too.
We do seem to make a habit of it, don't we?
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Should have had a pen
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pen
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It's guess the subs time!
I'm going Kodj for Albert.
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"What do you expect Steve Bruce to be saying at half time?"
"That's the league cup for you"
What he should be saying is, get out there, win this, lets get it done, this cup is a potential Championship side competition that can be a boost to a long hard cold winter, getting a semi final place in this would be incredible, just what we need at that point in the season.
I would have thought.
I'd hope that he'd pointed this out before they started rather than just waiting to see how it's going at half time.
You would think so, thought I would give him another bite of the cherry.
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Mariner - villa fan
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It's guess the subs time!
I'm going Kodj for Albert.
After about 75 minutes.
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from the Mendes stable? more like the horse stable
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This keeper is a liability
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If it wasn't so serious it would be funny.
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Is JDH also the ref
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Bit more like it in the last few minutes.
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It's pretty impressive to look second best all over the pitch to a division 4 side.
Kod and Jack coming on.
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Bruce, despite his proven ability to get results at Championship level, seems to have zero idea how to get his teams playing with anything remotely resembling flair.
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Fucking garbage this.
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Kod and Jack coming on.
Oh good! :)
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pen to yeovil
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Penalty
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Penalty Yeovil
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think thats a bit harsh
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So. Hourihane stays on. Boggles my mind.
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Mad Tom grabbing
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Elphick is fucking woeful.
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If ever there was a make-up decision that was one.
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Moriera saves it.
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Saved
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Yay! Viva Morreira!
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Penalty?!
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you knew he was gonna save that after the mare he was having
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Good save. Got away with another
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Phew.
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Elphick working to get a loan deal
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This keeper is a liability
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Softest penalty you’ll ever see, refs a tool.
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The new Brad Bosnich
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Diabolical performance all over the pitch, that keeper looks a proper clown save aside.
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That was never a penalty
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This keeper is a liability
Nah, he's alright.
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Moreira!! Always said he was quality ::)
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This keeper is a liability
I’ll stand by that statement. Thank fuck it’s only a loan.
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I'm amongst Elphicks biggest critics, but that was no pen.
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This new keeper is a find!
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I thought it looked like a soft penalty from the first replay angle but then from the second angle they showed I thought it looked a nailed on pen. Nice confidence boost for our new keeper though.
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no problem If this goes to penalties now
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Softest penalty you’ll ever see, refs a tool.
Not really. I don't think he really wanted Elphick to cuddle him.
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Are we playing for pens?
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One player most likely to take advantage of playing with Jack and Bruce sees fit to take him off.
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Are we playing for pens?
Playing?
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Lucky not to be sent off.
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Grealish is playing a different sport to the rest of our players.
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If Grealish was any good he'd have buried that rather than hit the bar.
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Grealish is playing a different sport to the rest of our players.
so is the goalie
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Any chance Bruce might put Bunn on?
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Very sloppy and poor kick from our keeper there.
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Grealish is playing a different sport to the rest of our players.
so is the goalie
:D ;D :D
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Apart from the pen save he's been pretty shit.
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Any chance Bruce might put Bunn on?
As....
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I think we’ve seen enough of this keeper to know we won’t be seeing him again.
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Any chance Bruce might put Bunn on?
More chance he's eating one.
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De Laet's done ok so far.
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Lee, they're really not coming up against top quality players.
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Any chance Bruce might put Bunn on?
More chance he's eating one.
Haha
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We give new foreign keepers 70 minutes before deciding they're shite?
Looks just as unsure as Nyland did on Saturday to me.
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get Mcginn on
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Hells bells and buckets of...get this sorted Villa.
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A little hint in commentary there about John Terry returning to the club? "Still in touch with Steve Bruce".
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Bruce makes himself a very hard man to support with shit like this.
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Entertaining enough game since our changes
Really good chance for Green there.
Tuanzebe inspires no confidence with his decision making and positioning
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A little hint in commentary there about John Terry returning to the club? "Still in touch with Steve Bruce".
They also said he is not available
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Yeovil 8/1 now
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A shot on target!!!
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Bruce makes himself a very hard man to support with shit like this.
Makes him even more sackable in my opinion.
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Entertaining enough game since our changes
Really good chance for Green there.
Tuanzebe inspires no confidence with his decision making and positioning
Axle has been one of our better players.
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Great skill from Jimmy.
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Hourihane!
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well done kodja
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At last.
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Blimey, Kod with a pass
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Great set up from Kodjia
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Great play JK
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Yeeeessss
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Robbery. But i'll take it.
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Goooooooooal?
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For continuity, Yeovil 150/1. I'll stop now.
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We just don’t deserve Jack, he’s absolute class
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What a team.
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I love how Jack just takes players out of the game, a rare skill.
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Kod passed it again. Is he ill?
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To be fair Tommy has done alright tonight
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I think axel will get a CB start next game and RDL has done ok
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Kod passed it again. Is he ill?
Fever 39.5 degrees apparently
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Kod passed it again. Is he ill?
be great for his confidence if he could follow up with a goal tonight
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To be fair Tommy has done alright tonight
Not bad at all.
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Who are the sky commentators?
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We just don’t deserve Jack, he’s absolute class
He loves Villa.
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To be fair Tommy has done alright tonight
Not bad at all.
Well... the penalty aside.
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That challenge on Hourihane has got to be a free kick, whether he got a toe on the ball or not, you can't stamp on someone's foot like that.
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To be fair Tommy has done alright tonight
Not bad at all.
Well... the penalty aside.
bit of a ridiculous decision though, if thats the benchmark from which contact at set pieces is judged as a foul, there would be 10 pens a game
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Who are the sky commentators?
Lil Lee is one
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To be fair Tommy has done alright tonight
Not bad at all.
Well... the penalty aside.
bit of a ridiculous decision though, if thats the benchmark from which contact at set pieces is judged as a foul, there would be 10 pens a game
Not really. Don't want a penalty to be given against you? Don't wrap your arms around somebody in the penalty area. Sorted.
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Referee is garbage. Sense we are getting a bit angry with him
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To be fair Tommy has done alright tonight
Not bad at all.
Well... the penalty aside.
bit of a ridiculous decision though, if thats the benchmark from which contact at set pieces is judged as a foul, there would be 10 pens a game
Not really. Don't want a penalty to be given against you? Don't wrap your arms around somebody in the penalty area. Sorted.
But isn't it one of those where you won't get the decision every time?
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6 minutes. Really
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6 mins?!? Wtf this referee is a fucking idiot
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Where the fuck have they got six minutes from?
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6? Bollocks.
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6 Additional minutes??!! wtf for??
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To be fair Tommy has done alright tonight
Not bad at all.
Well... the penalty aside.
bit of a ridiculous decision though, if thats the benchmark from which contact at set pieces is judged as a foul, there would be 10 pens a game
Not really. Don't want a penalty to be given against you? Don't wrap your arms around somebody in the penalty area. Sorted.
But isn't it one of those where you won't get the decision every time?
Are there scenarios where you do get the decision every time?
I don't think that "but other people do it too" has ever been a solid defence for this sort of thing.
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The goalkeeper is a liability.
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That'll do.
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Next.
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Hmmmmm
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The goalkeeper is a liability.
One game, and saved a pen.
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WEM-BER-LEEEEEYYYY!!!
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Job done. Well done Villa.
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Unconvincing but job done. When's the draw for the next round?
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Got there in the end, r2 lets keep this run going.
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See Fathers for Justice in the crowd
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Three wins out of three and our best start to the season since the sixties and the days of 'Mercer's Minors'.
'Bruce's Babbies'.
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Unconvincing but job done. When's the draw for the next round?
Thursday
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Steve Bruce quite damning of our performance in his post match summing up. Especially having a dig at how hard the younger players found it playing 'proper games'.
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Maybe if the fat fecker actually trained them ad everyone else to play a recognisable system they'd look better.