Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Londonfranky on May 28, 2018, 11:57:08 AM
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My original post was about villa fans in our end on Saturday I didn’t see many. Now to the game, I thought the two managers set up there teams differently. I think Bruce set you up like it was the first game in two leg match. That gave us the initiative to go for from the start, you seemed a bit toothless even in the second half, I don’t think our goalkeeper had a meaningful save apart from Jack Grealish and that was straight at him. Jack Grealish seemed the only danger. I know he got roughed up a bit, I pretty sure that Cairney and Sessegnon would have got the same treatment if you could have got near them. We were lucky that Fredericks didn’t get sent off for the stamp, by the same token Grealish could have been sent off for his tackle on Cairney. I think your be alright next season, your probably one of top ten clubs in England, the championship is hard league to get out off, if Grealish is one of your own he should stay and help you to get up.
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Best of luck next season, you were better than us.
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About right.
All the best.
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You were undoubtedly better than us and we also had to contend with Bruce's scaredy-cat tactics. Good luck!
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Roughed up? Carved up more like.
But yes, you were the better side. Good luck.
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Congratulations, best team won on the day and the best team over the season went up, no complaints. You play good football, way better football then we play, and that'll stand you in good stead next year. Having said that, your not cuddly, free flowing Fulham that the media luvvies make out, you were quite a cynical side on Saturday and the assault by that wanker Fredericks on Jack Grealish not being punished might have been a game changer. It was no where near the same as the Grealish challenge in being a sending off offence imo. And he wasn't the only one.
But like I say, we can't complain too much, we didn't do nearly enough, we were out thought, out fought and out played. Enjoy next year.
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Thoroughly enjoying the Fulham match, end to end, Cairney has been superb as has the right back Fredericks. Nice to watch some good football, it is the most middle class crowd I've been in at a football match!
If Fulham sign a centre forward I can see them having a great season, they played some lovely stuff today and Cairney and Norwood were an excellent combination in midfield, surprised Norwood was taken off as it allowed Norwich to get back into the game.
I'm very rarely right about anything especially where football is concerned, but I took my son to the opening game of the season at Craven Cottage as we were down on holiday. I think your manager clearly saw my post, took him a while to act on it though.
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Better team won but you got plenty of help from the match officials.
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Good luck, you deserve it. For us, one goal in three vital games was never gonna scrape us through and going a goal down to quality opposition confirmed it. Even against ten men with twenty minutes left it never looked on.
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Your assessment is about right. Best team won - good luck next season.
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If we had your manager I think we'd have gone up automatically. Good luck for next season, think you'll be fine.
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No real complaints here and to be fair you were probably the best side in the league since the turn of the new year. It was clear on Saturday that Mitrovic is the focal point, but I thought you defended well and have real pace in the right areas. I think the way you and Wolves play might bring a breath of fresh air to an increasingly dull Premier League and if you can make a couple of decent additions you should be looking to do more than just survive.
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Congratulations.You have a brilliant coach who is moulding a fine team..What you saw in the first half was ,sadly,a typical Steve Bruce approach to football.Both your team and fans will be a credit to the Money League.
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Top three went up and deservedly so. I don't think that Fulham will be able to play out from the back as much as they want to and will struggle in the top division. However, well done on going up, much deserved and I really like your Manager. Yours is everything that ours needs to be.
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Best team in the frst half, on the day won. 2nd half, I didn't think you were up to much. Your manager over 90+ minutes was good on the day, especially when he employed bruce's own tactics in seeing the game out from a winning position. Well done on getting neutral daytrippers and fans of other London clubs to help fill your end on Saturday, wearing white tops. No noise until about the 89th minute and poor coordination in the use of your clappers was the give away. Good luck in the prem and I look forward to playing Fulham soon in the not too distant future. BTW Fredericks(?) will probs be targeted by refs next season after the stamping he got àway with Saturday.
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You were better than us in the marathon and. better than us in the final sprint. Clubs nearly always finish where they deserve to be and you finished third. You deserve your spot and I wish you well.
It will be kind of nice to have a club that you actually like playing in the top division. Fulham are a club I always found hard to dislike and I can remember when Tommy Trinder was chairman...you lucky people!
Enjoy yourselves.
Edit. Forgot to add, I was also fortunate to see Johnny Haynes play several times, one of the most accomplished footballers I ever saw. I don't know how old you are but, take it from me, your dad was right, he could drop the ball on a tanner from a hundred yards away, no shit.
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Thanks and good luck. Beat Wolves for us!
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Apart from Fredericks' nastiness (surprised Jack got up in fact) and Fulham's continued and largely unpunished assaults on Grealish throughout the game I thought the Londoners deserved the victory, and they finished 3rd anyway so justice was done. I think they'll do better in the Premier than we would have. But how do we stop this playoff silliness. Rotherham finished 8 points behind Shrewsbury and went up. Money money money.
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Keep a hold of your best players, sign the lad from Newcastle, invest wisely and you can stay in the division. Fulham is a very good club. Best wishes in the PL, you deserve to be there.
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Fulham showed a side of themselves I didn't know they had.
Neil Warnock would've been proud.
Better team won though, no doubt.
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All the best for next season Franky. As much as I wish it were us, I can’t disagree with any of your assessment of the game, and as others have said the better footballing team won.
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Best team won on the day Franky but I do feel the weight of the occasion weighed heavily on our players with predictions of financial Armageddon if we lost. Losing would have been tough on Fulham but I doubt you have the financial problems we now have as a result of the ridiculous FFP rules which seem to prevent a wealthy owner in investing in a business he owns. We had a poor start to the season, lost our leading goalscorer for most of the season and one of the leagues best players for the first three months however, we still finished fourth by quite a margin so I'm optimistic we will be thereabouts next year again. Good luck for next season and do us all a favour by turning over the Dogheads who have become particularly nauseating of late. They need putting back in their place.
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I'll be interested to see what happens to Fredericks if he does to the likes of Alli, Salah or De Bruyne what he did to Grealish.
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I doubt any thoughts of “financial Armageddon” ever enter into the minds of footballers playing in the top two levels of the English game.
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Better team throughout. Not even sure that the early sending off would have changed anything whatsoever.
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Congratulations, you deserved to get promoted over the season and you were the better team at Wembley, good luck
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I doubt any thoughts of “financial Armageddon” ever enter into the minds of footballers playing in the top two levels of the English game.
Jedinak insists it is no exaggeration to call the match life-changing for everyone involved.
"It is in every aspect. It is a crossroads moment, sliding doors moment. It is like that. It can go one of two ways. That's what you're dealing with," said the Australian.
“Some don’t take the time to think about it and that’s up to them. I can’t speak for everybody but it motivates me. I use that on the field to make sure I’m doing everything I possibly can.”
"We haven't spoken about it but everybody knows it. Nobody is kidding themselves, people are aware of it, they know the situation."
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Congratulations. You were better than we were and tactically were much more flexible.Enjoy next season.
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My mistake, one footballer considers it.
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Grealish makes 2. Appleyard, for all I think of him, looked devastated and i'd imagine is 3. And there will be others at Villa and other clubs, even if it is more to do with concern about their own futures rather than the club's, they'll know that a club being fecked financially affects them. There'll be some that couldn't give a toss, but plenty will be fully aware of a club's financial situation if relegated or not promoted.
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Grealish cares about Villa, I doubt the number 26 has ever given financial implications a second thought unless it effects him.
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I doubt many of us thought it would be on Jedinak's mind but it was. While I have no doubt there's players at every level that don't give a toss about clubs, I also have no doubt that there's plenty that do.
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They have enjoyed their time together as a team and knew the financial implications of failure were that they would be broken up.
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Fair play. You deserved to go up over the course of the season. But if Fredericks doesn’t get a 3 match ban for the assault to try to take our best player out of the game, there’s something seriously wrong. The twat deliberately got Kodjia sent off last season as well and if I was him I wouldn’t expect a decent reception next time he plays at Villa Park.
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Quick question Franky .......would you take John Terry on loan for a season if offered?
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Grealish cares about Villa, I doubt the number 26 has ever given financial implications a second thought unless it effects him.
He’s already on his yacht in the Aegean counting the cash.
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Quick question Franky .......would you take John Terry on loan for a season if offered?
Not in a million years!!
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He always looked like he cared, he looked pretty upset when he came round to acknowledge us supporters at the end of the game.
He’s been a great influence on the team.
Couldn’t stand him at Chelsea but fair play, he did his best for us and made a difference.
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Appleyard would as popular an appointment at Fulham at Paul Tait would be down B6.
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Before the play-offs were even decided a lot of Villa said from the word go we didn’t fancy Fulham and so it proved. Good luck for the season - no complaints overall apart from the obvious couple of dodgy challenges but that’s football.....
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The best team over the season got promotion and deservedly so. But I don't buy this "proper football team won" i think that's bollocks.We have flair in our team and play some half decent stuff. Albeit not as effectively as Fulham. We missed 3 sitters in the final and.that cnut Frederick should have paid for that nasty,snidey attack on Grealish. The 2 best bits of skill on the day pretty much decided it. Snoddys superb free kick chipped into Grealish's path perfectly only to be crashed into the Fulham end warranted a goal but wasn't converted. Sessingon's brilliantly weighted pass for Cairney which was. That's the fine margins in football. Good luck in the Premier league.
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... and the assault by that wanker Fredericks on Jack Grealish not being punished might have been a game changer.
No it wouldn't have. We didn't turn up until the second half, by which point the damage was done.
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... and the assault by that wanker Fredericks on Jack Grealish not being punished might have been a game changer.
No it wouldn't have. We didn't turn up until the second half, by which point the damage was done.
All about opinions.In the second half we had 2 clear cut chances for Jack, the run and the free header. An absolute sitter missed by Hogan and a big shout for a pen, again on Jack.
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Think Fulham will comfortably survive next season but you will need a new CB certainly as Odoi would be a major weak link a level up.
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... and the assault by that wanker Fredericks on Jack Grealish not being punished might have been a game changer.
No it wouldn't have. We didn't turn up until the second half, by which point the damage was done.
All about opinions.In the second half we had 2 clear cut chances for Jack, the run and the free header. An absolute sitter missed by Hogan and a big shout for a pen, again on Jack.
Agree. Absolutely sick of the “victory for football” myth being pushed. Grealish was fouled more often by Fulham than any other player in any other match in the entire 2017/2018 Championship season. So a victory for football strongly allied to planned intimidation and provocation!
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It was a twatty arrogant thing for Cairney to say. The sort of comment you’d expect an armchair Man U or Liverpool ‘fan’ to come out with, not a professional footballer.
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Struggle with this thread and the F word at this moment knowing they beat us.
A quick thanks and good luck but seeing the word Fulham makes me feel ill!!
Appreciate the respect from the poster and also how we have shown acknowledge but I for one don't want reminders of Fulham and Saturday.
Good bye!! Let's get lock this thread so unnecessary In my opinion.
If I wanted other football fans opinions I'll read comments and forums or debates on general or common interests sports groups and chats. I feel here it's a sanctuary and as much as we are welcoming I rather not have any more Fulham chat thread unless coming up naturally elsewhere.
That's my thoughts
Nothing against the original poster and while at it the Cardiff person who adds his few cents can go focus on his club especially now as they aren't even in same division.
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It was a twatty arrogant thing for Cairney to say. The sort of comment you’d expect an armchair Man U or Liverpool ‘fan’ to come out with, not a professional footballer.
Who cares. I find he's over rated and at 27 he needed this. Decent player but never show much at international level and Prem wise he's only okay.
Sessegnon is something else and I am a great fan of his. He can be a superstar But anyway I really don't want to hear about Fulham as I said and I'll just have to hope this thread either gets locked or eventually drops off page.
Can't stand it at all. Guess I just annoyed at the loss but feel nose is being rubbed in it and bothering about the club that beat us.
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It was a twatty arrogant thing for Cairney to say. The sort of comment you’d expect an armchair Man U or Liverpool ‘fan’ to come out with, not a professional footballer.
I did wonder if it was a dig a Villa or Bruce who sold him to Blackburn when he was Hull manager ..either way was very petty especially from a player whose side had a player stamp on someone and another red carded ..hardly the beautiful game