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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Bad English on May 21, 2018, 10:50:19 AM
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Aston Villa will win 3-1 in 90 minutes. FTF!
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2-1 to us. Samba with the winner!
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With the correct game plan, us. whose the referee?
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2-0 FTF
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Don't know how we'll do it but we simply must.
FTF
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With the correct game plan, us. whose the referee?
Dowd
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5 days to go and the nerves are kicking in.
3-1 to the Villa!
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2-1 us in normal time
Snodgrass and Grealish
Mitrovic for them
I can't go so I know we will win
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2-0.
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With the correct game plan, us. whose the referee?
Dowd
I hope that's a joke.
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2-0 Villa. Grabban and Grealish.
The back four to have the games of their lives.
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2-0 FTF!
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With the correct game plan, us. whose the referee?
Dowd
the referee is Swarbrick. at least I think that's a "B" in the middle of his name.
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With the correct game plan, us. whose the referee?
Dowd
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I hope that's a joke.
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I'm going to say 2-1 win for us I really want us to get back where we belong I now we can do it.
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too many big game players at Villa . more experience . I dont expect Fulham to cope on their big day.
Villa 3 Fulham 0
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1-0 with the goal coming too early on for our nerves to hold. Come on your Lions.
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I'm normally stop stupidly pessimistic about games like this, but I dunno. I have a funny feeling we're going to nick it.
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3-1
Grabban, Grealish (2)
Sessegnon
#FTF
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Since when have we become scared of clubs like Fulham? Fuck em and let’s put them in their place. The Villa.
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My head says 2-1 with us scoring first. My heart says a 4-0 hammering by 80th minute and all 12,000 Fulham fans will start to leave.
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I didn't vote or make a prediction about the semis as I did not want to jinx it, and I think I am going to adopt the same approach here.
Just win it please, lads.
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I didn't vote or make a prediction about the semis as I did not want to jinx it, and I think I am going to adopt the same approach here.
Just win it please, lads.
Likewise.
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Any win. I’ll take it. I just want out of the Championship.
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My head says 2-1 with us scoring first. My heart says a 4-0 hammering by 80th minute and all 12,000 Fulham fans will start to leave.
Who is the hammerer and who is the hammeree in that scenario?
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I made a prediction at the start of the season that we would be at Wembley for the Play Off Final, I'm going to quit while I'm ahead and abstain with this one.
What I will say is that it's been great fun this season and that I hope it's equally as enjoyable at the weekend.
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I feel it unlikely that any one is going to say we are going to lose on here, unless we get a stray ——— fan.
I fear the worst and hope for the best.
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Since the beginning of the season, despite expecting automatic promotion, I've always had this image of John Terry lifting the trophy at Wembley. Anything less would be a disaster.
1-1 after 90 minutes
2-1 Villa AET
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We are going to turn up and fucking OWN Wembley.
3-1 to the mighty Villa.
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I've woken up an absolute wreck today and there are still 5 days to go.
A Villa win, it simply has to be.
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2-0 win. Grealish with a screamer and Terry with a late header.
My brother has offered my a ticket with him and my nephew in the Fulham end but I couldn't do it, seeing his little face when we beat them. I'd feel sorry for my nephew aswell.
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Anyone using stubhub for tickets? I've only been to two games this season (which isnt bad considering i live in the US) but tempted to lift something given coincidentally I'm back next weekend
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I feel it unlikely that any one is going to say we are going to lose on here, unless we get a stray ——— fan.
I fear the worst and hope for the best.
The media seem to be likening Fulham to Man City ffs. When they beat us at Craven cottage we had Grealish and Adomah out injured. We also have Grabban now who has had a big impact for us. I honestly believe we will be too much for them. I'm going for 2-0. And never forget WE ARE ASTON VILLA.
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I think we have been very good for the Championship and it's been quite an enjoyable experiencing this winning thing but enough is enough and we need to be back where the real money is unfortunately.
2-1 so we can wave goodbye to Stoke, Baggies and Blues, two of which might find the Championship a bit too "rich" for them
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Fulham fans are very excited they are selling out. They are also going to out play Villa and out sing us! Hmm
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Fulham fans are very excited they are selling out. They are also going to out play Villa and out sing us! Hmm
whats this about as Fulham fan you can get 5 tickets? how can they be selling out if their doing that?
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Fulham fans are very excited they are selling out. They are also going to out play Villa and out sing us! Hmm
Bless.
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I feel it unlikely that any one is going to say we are going to lose on here, unless we get a stray ——— fan.
I fear the worst and hope for the best.
I think we’ll lose. Fulham would’ve been laughing to themselves watching our matches with Boro - they wouldn’t have cared who they got based on that.
However, I also thought we’d lose the Liverpool semi and didn’t go, and was thrilled to be proved wrong.
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Seen us play at Wembley 4 times (missed the Liverpool semi) and we have never turned up once, just people impersonating professional football players!
So I really have no idea what to expect, except the worse and hope for the best!
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My heart says we’ll win it in 90 mins 2-0 don’t want to listen to my head!!! If it goes into extra time I suspect Fulham will do it
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Just bloody win please.
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We have the division's mostest "been there, done that" player in our 26 shirt. We won't freeze. It's not going to be easy, it'll get hairy, nerves will be frayed. But we will win.
1-0, Grabban 67 minutes.
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I feel it unlikely that any one is going to say we are going to lose on here, unless we get a stray ——— fan.
I fear the worst and hope for the best.
I think we’ll lose. Fulham would’ve been laughing to themselves watching our matches with Boro - they wouldn’t have cared who they got based on that.
However, I also thought we’d lose the Liverpool semi and didn’t go, and was thrilled to be proved wrong.
On their own patch Fulham are very good. But the game will be played on a pitch size similar to Villa Park. Also they weren’t exactly brilliant at Derby. It will all depend on what Bruce decides is the appropriate strategy for this game. If he goes out to win I think we will. If he tries to play the counter or grind out game I think we will lose. I hope it’s the former because we have the players for it. We have to play to win from the first kick of the ball.
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I agree. We've got the squad to press them, and impose ourselves on their game.
As a point of order, and probably deserving of its' own thread, but what shirts is everyone wearing, bearing in mind the date?
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Interesting perspective on teams that play in play-offs:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44120535
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Fulham fans are very excited they are selling out. They are also going to out play Villa and out sing us! Hmm
I know villa fans that have been buying tickets off Fulham fans since Friday.
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Fuck the fuckers... Villa win. Any which way.
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Reversion to the mean.
Finishing 3-6 one year means you’re more likely to finish lower than that the following year.
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I feel it unlikely that any one is going to say we are going to lose on here, unless we get a stray ——— fan.
I fear the worst and hope for the best.
I think we’ll lose. Fulham would’ve been laughing to themselves watching our matches with Boro - they wouldn’t have cared who they got based on that.
However, I also thought we’d lose the Liverpool semi and didn’t go, and was thrilled to be proved wrong.
On their own patch Fulham are very good. But the game will be played on a pitch size similar to Villa Park. Also they weren’t exactly brilliant at Derby. It will all depend on what Bruce decides is the appropriate strategy for this game. If he goes out to win I think we will. If he tries to play the counter or grind out game I think we will lose. I hope it’s the former because we have the players for it. We have to play to win from the first kick of the ball.
Tickets sorted now so I can start to look ahead to the game!! Was speaking to a fellow a Villa fan at work today who was saying that he obviously wants us to win, but the prospect of another season in the Championship doesn't worry him too much. I can understand where he is coming from, but now we're in the play off final, not going up would seem like a backwards step.
I think Bruce has to get it spot on tactically on Saturday. The areas of concern for me are their midfield and their two full-backs. From what I have seen of them, they are not really overlapping full-backs as they tend to get in the box quite a bit. I think we have got to watch their runs into the box and make sure they are tracked properly. We've got to match their three in midfield as well as they like to get on the ball and dictate the play. That said, it's not Real Madrid we're facing on Saturday and we have more than enough quality to beat them on the day.
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I think Fulham might have too much for us after a long season with a strong, but ageing squad.
I'm going to the game pretty relaxed, if we win fantastic, if we dont then another season of hopefully winning more than we lose and being competitive is great by me.
I think a single goal will win it. UTV
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Tickets sorted too...can't wait to see and hear the sea of claret'n'blue Villa fans roar on the lads at Wembley again!
When do we expect tickets to arrive in the post if bought tonight?
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Just a thought I heard that anyone taking in flags would have them taken off them unless they
have permission, has anyone heard this as I would not be happy at any problems when entering.
Brings back memories of going into Anfield years ago only to be told balloons were not allowed so
having to burst them at the turnstile
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Looks like all tickets sold this evening.
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About 750 tickets according to the online ticket office unless they're holding any blocks back.
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Just a thought I heard that anyone taking in flags would have them taken off them unless they
have permission, has anyone heard this as I would not be happy at any problems when entering.
Brings back memories of going into Anfield years ago only to be told balloons were not allowed so
having to burst them at the turnstile
Any flag bigger than 2.5m is not allowed
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Fulham fans are very excited they are selling out. They are also going to out play Villa and out sing us! Hmm
hahaha not by the look of this thread they aren't
https://www.friendsoffulham.com/forum/index.php?topic=65599.0 (https://www.friendsoffulham.com/forum/index.php?topic=65599.0)
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Fulham lost to Blues when a win would have given them automatic promotion. That suggests to me they can choke when needing a result. I mean, losing 3-1 to that lot. What have we got to be worried about?
3-1 Villa
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We're all up for this aren't we? The place will be rocking.
2-0 Villa
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We're all up for this aren't we? The place will be rocking.
2-0 Villa
And for that reason if we are in game post 70 mins we will win
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I would say this is our most important game since Rotterdam.
Big players come to the fore on days like this. That's why I'm confident for a 2-0 scoreline for our Villa boys.
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With the correct game plan, us. whose the referee?
Dowd
the referee is Swarbrick. at least I think that's a "B" in the middle of his name.
Swarbrick reffed the 4-2 win away at Wednesday.
He also reffed a 1-1 draw between Fulham and Brentford.
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Fulham fans are very excited they are selling out. They are also going to out play Villa and out sing us! Hmm
hahaha not by the look of this thread they aren't
https://www.friendsoffulham.com/forum/index.php?topic=65599.0 (https://www.friendsoffulham.com/forum/index.php?topic=65599.0)
i had a look at that, in all honesty it looks like its been around for all of 5 minutes. also exactly the same format as H&V . don't look like Fulham have any fans that have supported for 3 weeks , absolute shit club. very much in the mould of sha.
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Crikey they're flogging more tickets on there than Ticketmaster!
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First goal will be vital. We can definitely win the game but nothing would surprise me if it goes totally tits up. Hoping for a 2-1 win.
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Fulham are a very good side at this level. They play a decent standard and style of football. They have had a very good run of results. It's a one-off game. Small Heath put three past them. We have John Terry as referee's assistant. It's Rotterdam Day. We are Aston Villa, they are not.
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There’s been a lot of unexpected social activity down there, meaning that half of their entire fan base now have tickets to sell...let’s hope they can’t shift them the money grabbing wankers.
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Discussing what songs to sing and clappers sums them up as a fanbase. We took the piss against the 'best fans in the world' Liverpool in 2015 and outsung them all game, I don't think Fulham fans will cause us much trouble.
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Really not confident about this. We’ll need a lot of luck and all the players right on top of it to win this. Come on Villa!!
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The fact that their manager is being linked with the Chelsea job may hopefully unsettle them a bit. I doubt he will get the job but anything that is a distraction to them, however slight can only be good for us.
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Discussing what songs to sing and clappers sums them up as a fanbase. We took the piss against the 'best fans in the world' Liverpool in 2015 and outsung them all game, I don't think Fulham fans will cause us much trouble.
It's not their fans I'm worried about.
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There’s been a lot of unexpected social activity down there, meaning that half of their entire fan base now have tickets to sell...let’s hope they can’t shift them the money grabbing wankers.
You have to question the wisdom in them being allowed to buy 5 tickets, based upon their attendances / fanbase, they were obviously going to be put straight up for resale. Serious possibility of segregation issues now Villa have virtually sold out without even going to general sale.
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Fulham did it to make more money and try and prevent two thirds of Wembley supporting Villa.
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I hope we win but, unusually, I’m quite relaxed. Overall Fulham were better than us this season. If they go up then good luck to them.
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SOLD OUT sign gone up....
Fulham will have big gaps in their end if im to believe what has been said previously.
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Discussing what songs to sing and clappers sums them up as a fanbase. We took the piss against the 'best fans in the world' Liverpool in 2015 and outsung them all game, I don't think Fulham fans will cause us much trouble.
It's not their fans I'm worried about.
I agree its the team we should be concentrating on but we will make a lot more noise than them and that will have an impact on their players. I happened to go to both the Fulham/Villa and Fulham/Wolves games and they were pretty quiet. In fact the Wolves game was pretty quiet from both sets of fans until they scored.
All these little things - crowd, manager Chelsea link, choking against the rags, age of their top players etc - will have an influence. Of course they're a good team but the occasion is going to throw them some challenges that I think we'll be better placed to handle.
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Fulham fans are very excited they are selling out. They are also going to out play Villa and out sing us! Hmm
hahaha not by the look of this thread they aren't
https://www.friendsoffulham.com/forum/index.php?topic=65599.0 (https://www.friendsoffulham.com/forum/index.php?topic=65599.0)
That's just truly embarrassing, song sheets ffs.
They're a confident bunch judging by some of the posts on that board.
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I'm not as nervous as before the semi finals. I also had a premonition that we will win 2-0.
UTV
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reckon spirit of 94 vs tranmere extra time and penalties to write another glorious chapter in the history. that is idealised - could be wrong lol.
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reckon spirit of 94 vs tranmere extra time and penalties to write another glorious chapter in the history. that is idealised - could be wrong lol.
Not sure I'd survive penalties. What a way to die.
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that evening mail thread the other day, Chico when everyone in the team had won at wembley in one final or another surely that is a record. anyway i reckon extra time and pens. reckon 3-3 4-3 on pens
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I was chatting with a former poster today and his view of the game was as follows:-
I am hoping that our crowd are totally hostile towards them. By all accounts, they shit themselves at St. Andrews. When we played them at Craven Cottage, I felt that our ‘best away trip’ attitude was akin to us joining in with their picnic on the terraces. It transmitted itself to the team. We need to get in complete control of the game, in both halves, and make them wish they hadn’t turned up. When we pick that cup up, I don’t want to see a Fulham fan in the ground.
Once that is done, we can all call them ‘nice, friendly Fulham’ again.
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Just thinking about the enormity of the game now and starting to get nervous. I've been to 5 finals at Wembley with the Villa and we've won 2 and lost 3. When you think about it a League or FA Cup final really doesn't have any far reaching consequences on the club, a bit of glory if you win and a bit of disappointment if you lose.
This one game on Saturday could define our club for years to come. Win and were back in the money, we can invest in better players, infrastructure etc. Lose and we will probably have to sell Grealish, Chester etc, make cutbacks all around the club.
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I was chatting with a former poster today and his view of the game was as follows:-
I am hoping that our crowd are totally hostile towards them. By all accounts, they shit themselves at St. Andrews. When we played them at Craven Cottage, I felt that our ‘best away trip’ attitude was akin to us joining in with their picnic on the terraces. It transmitted itself to the team. We need to get in complete control of the game, in both halves, and make them wish they hadn’t turned up. When we pick that cup up, I don’t want to see a Fulham fan in the ground.
Once that is done, we can all call them ‘nice, friendly Fulham’ again.
Or, more succinctly, fuck the fuckers.
How is he by the way, and Pauline?
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I was chatting with a former poster today and his view of the game was as follows:-
I am hoping that our crowd are totally hostile towards them. By all accounts, they shit themselves at St. Andrews. When we played them at Craven Cottage, I felt that our ‘best away trip’ attitude was akin to us joining in with their picnic on the terraces. It transmitted itself to the team. We need to get in complete control of the game, in both halves, and make them wish they hadn’t turned up. When we pick that cup up, I don’t want to see a Fulham fan in the ground.
Once that is done, we can all call them ‘nice, friendly Fulham’ again.
I think it will go that way anyway. Especially if Boro away is anything to go by. It's a fair point though. I thought the crowd in the FA cup semi v Liverpool was raucous and loud. This definitely contributed to the outcome. The final v Arsenal the fans seemed quite tame and so did the team. Can't wait now. Bring it on.
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Exactly. The Villa crowd have a job to do.
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DC5 is correct however I am not sure if an hostile environment can be created by the crowd at Wembley.
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I'd say the crowd for the semi final helped the team get over the line, the last 10/15 mins was as supportive as Ive ever heard us.
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Our end was rocking against Liverpool, whilst they barely made a peep all day. Our fans will be bang up for this on Saturday, we know how big it is and no-one will want the shame on their conscience of being outsung by Fulham.
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A nice early rendition of "you can stick your f*cking clappers up your arse" will scare Hugo and his pals.
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I went out with friends after the Fulham away game in February and there was a nauseous full-of-himself Fulham fan who was bigging them up bigtime.
It occurred to me that they are like Arse fans: they believe that the team which plays the prettiest football has a divine right to win every game. We need to play this fixture with a high level of controlled intensity and confidence. If we get that from the team - and we get an intensity from the Villa crowd - we will win this.
And, in the process of so doing, we will FTF.
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I was invited for lunch at the weekend and there was an English bloke there. He was all "Oh we'll be just fine after Brexit" and "Actually we're vegans, you know"
We were having coffee after the meal and he said "We have a connection, you know: I support Fulham" So I said "Really? May the best team win, and all that" and he replied "We will, don't worry!" Cheeky ******!
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I feel physically sick.
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I can't concentrate on anything.
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I get the impression Fulham's fan think it's a foregone conclusion they will win.
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I'm not nervous at all, well not yet anyway. I'm looking forward to it more than anything.
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I was invited for lunch at the weekend and there was an English bloke there. He was all "Oh we'll be just fine after Brexit" and "Actually we're vegans, you know"
We were having coffee after the meal and he said "We have a connection, you know: I support Fulham" So I said "Really? May the best team win, and all that" and he replied "We will, don't worry!" Cheeky c***!
Define 'best'.
- the team that plays pretty football to the normal conventions of a 'footballing side'? - or, the one that wins.
I know it is not exactly binary like that but this is exactly the thing about Wenger that used to boil my piss: he would come into a post-match p.r. after having lost to Stoke or Burnley or A.N Other small club and complain that "they didn't play proper football".
I want us to play expansively and convincingly on Sunday and for Fulham and other fans to say: "yes; on the day they were the better side". I don't want us to go through having had 1 shot on goal and 15% possession - but I'll take it!!
So again: FTF!
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I'm bricking it, a massive game for our beloved club, we need the spirit of Rotterdam 1982. I am hoping the experience we have will give us a big advantage.
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Sooooooooooo this is our most important game since when? 26 May 1982?
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Fulham fans think it's all over:
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/i-am-glad-playing-aston-14690108
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Sooooooooooo this is our most important game since when? 26 May 1982?
Short term wise an even greater game. Our immediate future will be dertermined over one game. Just remember though Fulham don't win finals.
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My nerves started before the Boro away leg and haven’t subsided. This match is my first thought on waking. No idea which way it will go but just hope we turn up this time. Apart from the Liverpool semi final we’ve been a big disappointment so often. Four more sleeps as the grandchildren say.....
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I can't bring myself to predict the result.
If we turn up and play our best, we can win.
If they turn up and play their best they can win.
It's that simple isn't it ? it's a proper 50/50 game where anything can happen.
If we do it, GREAT. If we don't then we'll just have to try again next season. No point collapsing in despair if we don't make it.
My mantra all season has been 'what will be will be' and i'm not changing it now.
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Snodgrass's deliveries can cause havoc for their backline this weekend. Pace and Jack on a wembley pitch can really do damage if were on song!
Nerves, excitement, anxiety, kid at xmas feel is how i am feeling this week. All with an added level of not being able to concentrate at work.
Roll on Saturday UTV
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A nice early rendition of "you can stick your f*cking clappers up your arse" will scare Hugo and his pals.
Lol
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DC5 is correct however I am not sure if an hostile environment can be created by the crowd at Wembley.
We're you at the Liverpool semi final? Our end was very hostile and very loud. Had several Liverpool supporters say that to us after the game. On our day we can raise havoc and Fulham are about to experience it. The old saying goes "the players can't afford to leave anything in the dressing room" (I mean effort wise pedants) and equally the fans can't afford to leave anything in the pub.
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DC5 is correct however I am not sure if an hostile environment can be created by the crowd at Wembley.
We're you at the Liverpool semi final? Our end was very hostile and very loud. Had several Liverpool supporters say that to us after the game. On our day we can raise havoc and Fulham are about to experience it. The old saying goes "the players can't afford to leave anything in the dressing room" (I mean effort wise pedants) and equally the fans can't afford to leave anything in the pub.
I left my sunglasses in the pub before the Liverpool game
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Fulham fans think it's all over:
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/i-am-glad-playing-aston-14690108
To be fair, most quoted in that article think it will be close and seem quite worried!
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Fulham fans think it's all over:
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/i-am-glad-playing-aston-14690108
To be fair, most quoted in that article think it will be close and seem quite worried!
..but you could trust our much loved local paper not to spin it that way!
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DC5 is correct however I am not sure if an hostile environment can be created by the crowd at Wembley.
We're you at the Liverpool semi final? Our end was very hostile and very loud. Had several Liverpool supporters say that to us after the game. On our day we can raise havoc and Fulham are about to experience it. The old saying goes "the players can't afford to leave anything in the dressing room" (I mean effort wise pedants) and equally the fans can't afford to leave anything in the pub.
The Liverpool fans I spoke to in 2015 were complimentary - said our songs weren't original but we sang them loudly and often. I think the Brigada boys directly behind the goal did a good job that day - I don't assume there will be anything as organised this time since I haven't noticed them at Villa Park this season.
I assume that our fans will be dispersed at Wembley (ie people not necessarily alongside those they usually sit with) so the hardcore who generate the noise up the Holte and at away games will not be together en bloc. Hope that doesn't negatively impact the support.
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DC5 is correct however I am not sure if an hostile environment can be created by the crowd at Wembley.
We're you at the Liverpool semi final? Our end was very hostile and very loud. Had several Liverpool supporters say that to us after the game. On our day we can raise havoc and Fulham are about to experience it. The old saying goes "the players can't afford to leave anything in the dressing room" (I mean effort wise pedants) and equally the fans can't afford to leave anything in the pub.
The Liverpool fans I spoke to in 2015 were complimentary - said our songs weren't original but we sang them loudly and often. I think the Brigada boys directly behind the goal did a good job that day - I don't assume there will be anything as organised this time since I haven't noticed them at Villa Park this season.
I assume that our fans will be dispersed at Wembley (ie people not necessarily alongside those they usually sit with) so the hardcore who generate the noise up the Holte and at away games will not be together en bloc. Hope that doesn't negatively impact the support.
Not being funny but everyone who has a ticket should be up for it no matter what stand they usually sit in. It's our biggest game for years so 38,000 should be singing, we don't need a poxy singing section like Fulham.
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Nerves are gonna play a massive part in this, both players and fans. Hopefully, with the experience of the manager and the players should count for us. Just play like we did vs Wolves.
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"We're Aston Villa, we clap with our hands"
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DC5 is correct however I am not sure if an hostile environment can be created by the crowd at Wembley.
We're you at the Liverpool semi final? Our end was very hostile and very loud. Had several Liverpool supporters say that to us after the game. On our day we can raise havoc and Fulham are about to experience it. The old saying goes "the players can't afford to leave anything in the dressing room" (I mean effort wise pedants) and equally the fans can't afford to leave anything in the pub.
When you say the Villa fans can't afford to leave anything in the pub, is that a dig at David Cameron? ;)
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I am perfectly calm,cool and collected about the game and not nervous at all at the moment. My big match nerves normally start the night before a big game and then get even worse on the day of the game. The fact the game doesn't kick off till five will make it even worse for me.
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Villa's Record for their first appearance in finals is impressive.
1887 F.A. Cup - WON
1961 F.L. Cup - WON
1982 European Cup - WON
1983 European Super Cup - WON
2018 E.F.L Play-off - Let's do this!!!
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DC5 is correct however I am not sure if an hostile environment can be created by the crowd at Wembley.
We're you at the Liverpool semi final? Our end was very hostile and very loud. Had several Liverpool supporters say that to us after the game. On our day we can raise havoc and Fulham are about to experience it. The old saying goes "the players can't afford to leave anything in the dressing room" (I mean effort wise pedants) and equally the fans can't afford to leave anything in the pub.
When you say the Villa fans can't afford to leave anything in the pub, is that a dig at David Cameron? ;)
Or in the pig's mouth
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DC5 is correct however I am not sure if an hostile environment can be created by the crowd at Wembley.
We're you at the Liverpool semi final? Our end was very hostile and very loud. Had several Liverpool supporters say that to us after the game. On our day we can raise havoc and Fulham are about to experience it. The old saying goes "the players can't afford to leave anything in the dressing room" (I mean effort wise pedants) and equally the fans can't afford to leave anything in the pub.
When you say the Villa fans can't afford to leave anything in the pub, is that a dig at David Cameron? ;)
Or in the pig's mouth
Is the Pig's Mouth a pub and if so is the beer any good?
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Fuck the Upstarts, we're a cut above , as will become apparent on Saturday, as we steam back where we belong.(I'm shitting bricks).
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DC5 is correct however I am not sure if an hostile environment can be created by the crowd at Wembley.
We're you at the Liverpool semi final? Our end was very hostile and very loud. Had several Liverpool supporters say that to us after the game. On our day we can raise havoc and Fulham are about to experience it. The old saying goes "the players can't afford to leave anything in the dressing room" (I mean effort wise pedants) and equally the fans can't afford to leave anything in the pub.
When you say the Villa fans can't afford to leave anything in the pub, is that a dig at David Cameron? ;)
Not really he's a West Ham fan isn't he?
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DC5 is correct however I am not sure if an hostile environment can be created by the crowd at Wembley.
We're you at the Liverpool semi final? Our end was very hostile and very loud. Had several Liverpool supporters say that to us after the game. On our day we can raise havoc and Fulham are about to experience it. The old saying goes "the players can't afford to leave anything in the dressing room" (I mean effort wise pedants) and equally the fans can't afford to leave anything in the pub.
I left my sunglasses in the pub before the Liverpool game
I did that at Middlesbrough
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Sooooooooooo this is our most important game since when? 26 May 1982?
Short term wise an even greater game. Our immediate future will be dertermined over one game. Just remember though Fulham don't win finals.
I agree that this game probably determines our short term future, massive dent if we lose. All of us should be going there ready to roar the team on from before they enter the pitch until after we have got promotion.
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What a massive game. Second only to the European Cup Final in Rotterdam. I have quite enjoyed being the super big club of this division but I want to know where Xia wants to take us if we go up. No prediction from me because I honestly can't call it either way and I don't want to hex it. Snoddy and Albert are due a goal. Up the Villa. Superb club, superb fans.
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Think Albert has a massive role to play on Saturday. Their right back (Frederick) looks a good player going forward and will need to be tracked. However, think Albert can cause him problems going forward and make him less confident to bomb forward.
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Everyone leave your sunglasses in a pub!
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I hope the poor luvvies bring sunglasses with their suncream if the sun is shining on them
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Ticket's arrived. It's f***ing massive.
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What a massive game. Second only to the European Cup Final in Rotterdam. I have quite enjoyed being the super big club of this division but I want to know where Xia wants to take us if we go up. No prediction from me because I honestly can't call it either way and I don't want to hex it. Snoddy and Albert are due a goal. Up the Villa. Superb club, superb fans.
Not quite to the day, but 30 years ago this month we were last promoted out of this division.
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Anthony Taylor is the ref on Saturday
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We want Neill Swarbrick!!
And are sunglasses in Middlesborough to protect your eyes from the smog?
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I really hope we win in 90 as we are older and Bruce will have considered that (apologies if written elsewhere as I am new to the thread. I’d say 2-1 as we know how to beat them and I think we can take villa park to Wembley more than they can take craven to Wembley edit - they’re not as good away. That said it’s always going to be close especially first half so I expect a nail biter. I’m saying nothing more and I put my trust in JT to spell it out to everyone and try and counteract nerves and occasion - if anyone can he can. For every worry about every player we have, Fulham like for like have never come through the struggle - I’m pinning my hat on that. Weather a 15 minute storm of Adrenalin on their part and we should win. Score first and I’d put something smaller than my house on it.
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I really hope we win in 90 as we are older and Bruce will have considered that (apologies if written elsewhere as I am new to the thread. I’d say 2-1 as we know how to beat them and I think we can take villa park to Wembley more than they can take craven to Wembley edit - they’re not as good away. That said it’s always going to be close especially first half so I expect a nail biter. I’m saying nothing more and I put my trust in JT to spell it out to everyone and try and counteract nerves and occasion - if anyone can he can. For every worry about every player we have, Fulham like for like have never come through the struggle - I’m pinning my hat on that. Weather a 15 minute storm of Adrenalin on their part and we should win. Score first and I’d put something smaller than my house on it.
Actually we got 2 points more than they did (49 to 47). They had a much better away record than we did.
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I really hope we win in 90 as we are older and Bruce will have considered that (apologies if written elsewhere as I am new to the thread. I’d say 2-1 as we know how to beat them and I think we can take villa park to Wembley more than they can take craven to Wembley edit - they’re not as good away. That said it’s always going to be close especially first half so I expect a nail biter. I’m saying nothing more and I put my trust in JT to spell it out to everyone and try and counteract nerves and occasion - if anyone can he can. For every worry about every player we have, Fulham like for like have never come through the struggle - I’m pinning my hat on that. Weather a 15 minute storm of Adrenalin on their part and we should win. Score first and I’d put something smaller than my house on it.
Actually we got 2 points more than they did (49 to 47). They had a much better away record than we did.
I meant two more Home points
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Any news on injuries? Nearer it gets, I can only really see one change, with someone coming in for Bree if Elmo, Taylor or Axel are fit.
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Absolutely bricking it already, keep thinking about it going to penalties and how nerve wracking that would be.
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Any news on injuries? Nearer it gets, I can only really see one change, with someone coming in for Bree if Elmo, Taylor or Axel are fit.
No not Taylor under any circumstances. I would rather Charlie Atkin played instead as I am sure he will be there.
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I had a dream last night. We went one nil up after we caught them on the break then they equalised and went two one up. Then I woke up but I'm sure we would have won 3 - 2.
Getting really nervous now.
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I already know I hate this game.
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Just win. I would love a majestic performance, that is football style, total football Ajax style. However it wont be and to be honest, i do not care. Just win the blooming game, Villa, just win
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Tight and nervy affair with neither side wanting to make a mistake and be punished. 0-0 and then to penalties.
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I am imagining a red card for Snodgrass after 8 minutes. Bruce battens down the hatches and it's backs to the wall for 90 minutes plus extra time.
Then we go to kicks from the penalty mark. It's neck and neck until sudden death.
Sessegnon has to score or we are up. He hits the bar.
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I hope it’s not going to be decided by penalties. I might not survive that. I think I’m right in saying that of the last ten championship play offs, eight were decided in normal time, one in extra time and one with penalties.
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I already know I hate this game.
Creosoting the fence on Saturday.
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I already know I hate this game.
Creosoting the fence on Saturday.
Do you need a hand ?
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I already know I hate this game.
Creosoting the fence on Saturday.
That was one of my summer jobs as a kid. Creosote (proper stuff as well) our own fence of about 60 yards, then my Grandmother's fence of probably double that and finally the gatehouse at Lydney RFC.
I was the go-to kid for creosoting.
I suspect that being at the game on Saturday will be far less stressful than watching at home or trying to find something to do in order to avoid it.
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I realise its on the pitch that counts.
but I think weve won the battle of the stands.
looking at their selling page
quite a number of Villa now in the Fulham end.
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Already?
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They open the gates earlier and earlier these days.
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Non of this nervy nonsense please. Just score 4 in the first 20 mins then we can all relax and enjoy the rest of the game.
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Any suggestions for venues showing game. Requirements are suitable for kids and predominantly villa fans?
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1-0 either way is the way i see it, very tight
i hope it doesn't go to extra time or penalties as my lad has to get back to Manchester and the last train out of Euston is 9.00pm which will make it to tight i reckon
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Bruce was on the radio this morning. Only injury concern is Elmo. Also they had to stop the training session early yesterday as they were all kicking lumps out of each other.
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Really concerned about not having Elmo. He would be marking arguably their most dangerous player. Bree is a decent young player but his lack of experience in such a crucial game is worrying. Saying that nearly all their team have never played at Wembley .....
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Really concerned about not having Elmo. He would be marking arguably their most dangerous player. Bree is a decent young player but his lack of experience in such a crucial game is worrying. Saying that nearly all their team have never played at Wembley .....
Maybe Hutton will mark him if that is the case. Bree did well last week after a nervy start I thought and the experience we have in the team should help. I really am hoping that experience will be the telling factor in us winning the game
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Already?
All ready. Let's do this.
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I realise its on the pitch that counts.
but I think weve won the battle of the stands.
looking at their selling page
quite a number of Villa now in the Fulham end.
I thought they had sold out?
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Really concerned about not having Elmo. He would be marking arguably their most dangerous player. Bree is a decent young player but his lack of experience in such a crucial game is worrying. Saying that nearly all their team have never played at Wembley .....
Don't worry about Bree. The game is on May 26th. The script is written for a young Villa player lacking experience to be the man of the match. ;)
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I realise its on the pitch that counts.
but I think weve won the battle of the stands.
looking at their selling page
quite a number of Villa now in the Fulham end.
I thought they had sold out?
Your right, they sold there tickets but Fulham thinking their from the smoke are all trying to turn in to Delboys , "and knock em out to some stupid Brummies"
Fulham football club acted irresponsibly allowing that to happen, but then they are small time.
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What is "small time"?
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There's a difference between being a small(ish) club and being small time. Small time is invading the pitch after Boro ;)
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There's a difference between being a small(ish) club and being small time. Small time is invading the pitch after Boro ;)
or Derby perhaps, or looking to maximism sales when you know you've got what 18000 fans.
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Any suggestions for venues showing game. Requirements are suitable for kids and predominantly villa fans?
Wembley and West side safe for Villa fans. (Sorry)
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Any suggestions for venues showing game. Requirements are suitable for kids and predominantly villa fans?
My wife and uncle are watching it in the Northfield British Legion
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There's a difference between being a small(ish) club and being small time. Small time is invading the pitch after Boro ;)
or Derby perhaps, or looking to maximism sales when you know you've got what 18000 fans.
They are fully entitled to sell their allocation how they like. I don't necessarily agree with it but they are a smaller club maximising their sales from an allocation they are entitled to, which is very different to being small time.
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Trying to be somewhat rational here but is our best chance dependent on Fulham freezing?
Concerns
- Snodgrass won't be as well suited to covering their dangerman (Sessegnon) as AA did in the semi with Traore
- Fulham are far more mobile in the middle than any of our options, particularly the likely duo of Jedinak and Hourihane
- leadership aside is there any technical reason for playing Jedinak, Fulham won't be hoofing too many long balls onto Mitrovic. Would Bjarnasson offer us a bit more and help keep the ball better
- have we anyone likely to stop Cairney dictating the play
- lack of options maybe but Grabban isn't likely to offer too much as an option for getting us up the pitch, we don't seem overly suited to a counter attacking game
- Bree/Elmo at left back for most of the game won't be ideal in terms of keeping the ball or defensively.
Positives
- Davies did a great job of containing Mitrovic in the first leg. Terry and Chester should be capable of the same.
- Hutton to dominate Sessegnon, though he is a far better player than Traore..
- We have Grealish and plenty of goal threat in midfield.
- Grabban will always get a chance or two.
- We might have the edge on them for attacking set pieces.
- Far more experienced side
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Davies was spitting blood, turned inside out by Mitrovic, his poor shooting was the only reason he didn’t get a couple.
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My team would be;
.......................................Johnston.............................................
Hutton..............Chester................Terry................Elhomady.........
.......................Jedinak................Bjarnson..................................
....Snodgrass..................Grealish.................Adomah....................
....................................Grabban................................................
It's harsh on Hourinhaninho who doesn't deserve to be left out but I think we need Grealish having a freer role and could do with Bjarnson holding with Jedinak
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Good post, Bronté. I want to see us bring the ball forward not only through Albert and Snoddy but through the middle. We're very predictable and we need to add to relying on those two and Jack, who normally spends the first half very deep. I expect Bruce to keep a tight back line so we need all the midfield to work together. Assuming Jedi plays, I'd still be tempted to bring in BB in place of Hourihane. He always looks for a forward ball where as Connor slows things down.
Whoever plays, we've got to increase the number of shots on goal. We can't be looking to do an Arsenal and play the ball into the net, or the perfect ball for Grabban, we need to let them feel constantly under pressure. Fulham like to sit back first half, passing it around and tire teams out chasing the ball before stepping it up second half. We'll have a strong bench and players there that should be able to slot in so I'm not too concerned about tiring legs.
Uncle Albert needs to up his game. He's been relatively quiet this year but again we have options. Jack and Snoddy must maintain their brilliant link up play, oh and it's about time Snoddy let Jedi take a free kick once in a while. That said, the game will be decided in midfield. We're good enough, we just have to go out and deliver. Bruce seems delighted with preparations, so let's just go out there and smash our way back to the PL.
FTF
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Elmo is injured PMcGN5S!
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Good post, Bronté. I want to see us bring the ball forward not only through Albert and Snoddy but through the middle. We're very predictable and we need to add to relying on those two and Jack, who normally spends the first half very deep. I expect Bruce to keep a tight back line so we need all the midfield to work together. Assuming Jedi plays, I'd still be tempted to bring in BB in place of Hourihane. He always looks for a forward ball where as Connor slows things down.
Whoever plays, we've got to increase the number of shots on goal. We can't be looking to do an Arsenal and play the ball into the net, or the perfect ball for Grabban, we need to let them feel constantly under pressure. Fulham like to sit back first half, passing it around and tire teams out chasing the ball before stepping it up second half. We'll have a strong bench and players there that should be able to slot in so I'm not too concerned about tiring legs.
Uncle Albert needs to up his game. He's been relatively quiet this year but again we have options. Jack and Snoddy must maintain their brilliant link up play, oh and it's about time Snoddy let Jedi take a free kick once in a while. That said, the game will be decided in midfield. We're good enough, we just have to go out and deliver. Bruce seems delighted with preparations, so let's just go out there and smash our way back to the PL.
FTF
Hourihane is one of our mostly likely sources of a goal though. None of our other players have his ability to break into the box or shoot from distance. I accept he can be a passenger without the ball, is horribly one sided and can hide a bit from getting the ball off the back...
Tough one
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I really hope we win in 90 as we are older and Bruce will have considered that (apologies if written elsewhere as I am new to the thread. I’d say 2-1 as we know how to beat them and I think we can take villa park to Wembley more than they can take craven to Wembley edit - they’re not as good away. That said it’s always going to be close especially first half so I expect a nail biter. I’m saying nothing more and I put my trust in JT to spell it out to everyone and try and counteract nerves and occasion - if anyone can he can. For every worry about every player we have, Fulham like for like have never come through the struggle - I’m pinning my hat on that. Weather a 15 minute storm of Adrenalin on their part and we should win. Score first and I’d put something smaller than my house on it.
Actually we got 2 points more than they did (49 to 47). They had a much better away record than we did.
I meant two more Home points
You're right - apologies, not sure where I got the Fulham away not great thing from. 49-47 home / 34-41 away. God help us ;-) I think the experience over youth will win out. Our players will back themselves to win based on experience (well some of them) whereas Fulham are going on trust, which can be fragile.
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BronteBilly - Mitrovic has had a rich vein of form recently but he is prone to the red rag so I imagine Terry will be doing his level best there. We live in hope...
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I honestly think we will win far more comfortably than we imagine.
We will hit top form and cruise to a 3-1 win in normal time and we’ll all wonder what the fuss was about.
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Good post, Bronté. I want to see us bring the ball forward not only through Albert and Snoddy but through the middle. We're very predictable and we need to add to relying on those two and Jack, who normally spends the first half very deep. I expect Bruce to keep a tight back line so we need all the midfield to work together. Assuming Jedi plays, I'd still be tempted to bring in BB in place of Hourihane. He always looks for a forward ball where as Connor slows things down.
Whoever plays, we've got to increase the number of shots on goal. We can't be looking to do an Arsenal and play the ball into the net, or the perfect ball for Grabban, we need to let them feel constantly under pressure. Fulham like to sit back first half, passing it around and tire teams out chasing the ball before stepping it up second half. We'll have a strong bench and players there that should be able to slot in so I'm not too concerned about tiring legs.
Uncle Albert needs to up his game. He's been relatively quiet this year but again we have options. Jack and Snoddy must maintain their brilliant link up play, oh and it's about time Snoddy let Jedi take a free kick once in a while. That said, the game will be decided in midfield. We're good enough, we just have to go out and deliver. Bruce seems delighted with preparations, so let's just go out there and smash our way back to the PL.
FTF
Hourihane is one of our mostly likely sources of a goal though. None of our other players have his ability to break into the box or shoot from distance. I accept he can be a passenger without the ball, is horribly one sided and can hide a bit from getting the ball off the back...
Tough one
I agree, but will say he was like a man possesed against Boro at home. I think he made more tackles than everybody else on the pitch together.
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I really hope we win in 90 as we are older and Bruce will have considered that (apologies if written elsewhere as I am new to the thread. I’d say 2-1 as we know how to beat them and I think we can take villa park to Wembley more than they can take craven to Wembley edit - they’re not as good away. That said it’s always going to be close especially first half so I expect a nail biter. I’m saying nothing more and I put my trust in JT to spell it out to everyone and try and counteract nerves and occasion - if anyone can he can. For every worry about every player we have, Fulham like for like have never come through the struggle - I’m pinning my hat on that. Weather a 15 minute storm of Adrenalin on their part and we should win. Score first and I’d put something smaller than my house on it.
Actually we got 2 points more than they did (49 to 47). They had a much better away record than we did.
I meant two more Home points
You're right - apologies, not sure where I got the Fulham away not great thing from. 49-47 home / 34-41 away. God help us ;-) I think the experience over youth will win out. Our players will back themselves to win based on experience (well some of them) whereas Fulham are going on trust, which can be fragile.
I’m holding on to the thought that if Small Heath can beat them then we must have a chance
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Trying to be somewhat rational here but is our best chance dependent on Fulham freezing?
Concerns
- Snodgrass won't be as well suited to covering their dangerman (Sessegnon) as AA did in the semi with Traore
- Fulham are far more mobile in the middle than any of our options, particularly the likely duo of Jedinak and Hourihane
- leadership aside is there any technical reason for playing Jedinak, Fulham won't be hoofing too many long balls onto Mitrovic. Would Bjarnasson offer us a bit more and help keep the ball better
- have we anyone likely to stop Cairney dictating the play
- lack of options maybe but Grabban isn't likely to offer too much as an option for getting us up the pitch, we don't seem overly suited to a counter attacking game
- Bree/Elmo at left back for most of the game won't be ideal in terms of keeping the ball or defensively.
Positives
- Davies did a great job of containing Mitrovic in the first leg. Terry and Chester should be capable of the same.
- Hutton to dominate Sessegnon, though he is a far better player than Traore..
- We have Grealish and plenty of goal threat in midfield.
- Grabban will always get a chance or two.
- We might have the edge on them for attacking set pieces.
- Far more experienced side
I'm not sure it is our full-backs who will have to worry about their full-backs. From the times I have seen them this season, their wide attackers seem to try and pull the defending full-backs out wide and their full-backs look to exploit the spaces inside hence Sessegnon ending up with so many goals. It's the wingers who will have to track the runs of their full-backs and while Adomah is pretty sound defensively, Snodgrass showed in the semi-final game at Middlesbrough that he isn't.
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There's a difference between being a small(ish) club and being small time. Small time is invading the pitch after Boro ;)
or Derby perhaps, or looking to maximism sales when you know you've got what 18000 fans.
That is such an arrogant comment. Just because they have an average attendance of 18-20k home fans it doesn't mean they only have 18k supporters. If they can fill their end with casual fans who will wear white and cheer for them then why the fuck wouldn't they do that? Should they say hands up Villa you are far bigger we wont even bother turning up? Or should they be doing all they can to give their team the best possible advantage?
If the boot was on the other foot you would be furious at suggestions we offer the opposition any small advantage and would be suggesting we do all we can to keep the other sides allocation down. A thousand or so scattered Villa fans in Fulham areas will make no tangible difference to the support on the day. Offering us another block ok 10-15,000 tickets for a bigger sea of claret and blue would.
We used to pride ourselves on being classy. I can see why other fans often thing we're just self entitled and arrogant.
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Ouch!
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There's a difference between being a small(ish) club and being small time. Small time is invading the pitch after Boro ;)
or Derby perhaps, or looking to maximism sales when you know you've got what 18000 fans.
That is such an arrogant comment. Just because they have an average attendance of 18-20k home fans it doesn't mean they only have 18k supporters. If they can fill their end with casual fans who will wear white and cheer for them then why the fuck wouldn't they do that? Should they say hands up Villa you are far bigger we wont even bother turning up? Or should they be doing all they can to give their team the best possible advantage?
If the boot was on the other foot you would be furious at suggestions we offer the opposition any small advantage and would be suggesting we do all we can to keep the other sides allocation down. A thousand or so scattered Villa fans in Fulham areas will make no tangible difference to the support on the day. Offering us another block ok 10-15,000 tickets for a bigger sea of claret and blue would.
We used to pride ourselves on being classy. I can see why other fans often thing we're just self entitled and arrogant.
Well said. We’d be first to complain if Man united supporters were saying that about us (we are taking more than we average etc etc). Wembley is a great day out for all*, let both sets of fans enjoy it.
* well it should be, for some teams repeated visits mean its lost it’s magic
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There's a difference between being a small(ish) club and being small time. Small time is invading the pitch after Boro ;)
or Derby perhaps, or looking to maximism sales when you know you've got what 18000 fans.
They are fully entitled to sell their allocation how they like. I don't necessarily agree with it but they are a smaller club maximising their sales from an allocation they are entitled to, which is very different to being small time.
Really.
the selling of the tickets had nothing to do with them sending them back so as to stop the ground having more Villa in it? so sell on the basis they did. which left it open to exactly what's going on now.
the stewarding at Wembley will be more active than if Fulham acted more responsibly, But the proof will be seen Saturday.
we obviously have different opinions as to what small time is.
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I think it was the bit when they offered tickets to people that'd been in the neutral end was the bit that was annoying.
If we had enough tickets, we do all have family, friends and neighbours who are at least nominally Villa, that might come along for the day out - and I would love that if we could do it! Even my brother expressed an interest in this game and he doesn't even like football - but it would have given me a chance to bring my nephew.
It's not so much Season Ticket holders getting 5 I have an issue with, I can even go with 5 for a Fulham booking history - but people who have been in Fulham's neutral end, should be buying neutral tickets - and just like at Craven Cottage - if those ended up being mostly Villa, that would be fair - and safer.
Even when I went with PNE I needed to have some kind of booking history of my own - so I am amazed to see Fulham tickets offered to 'neutrals' in the way they have been - not just one each either!
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There's a difference between being a small(ish) club and being small time. Small time is invading the pitch after Boro ;)
or Derby perhaps, or looking to maximism sales when you know you've got what 18000 fans.
That is such an arrogant comment. Just because they have an average attendance of 18-20k home fans it doesn't mean they only have 18k supporters. If they can fill their end with casual fans who will wear white and cheer for them then why the fuck wouldn't they do that? Should they say hands up Villa you are far bigger we wont even bother turning up? Or should they be doing all they can to give their team the best possible advantage?
If the boot was on the other foot you would be furious at suggestions we offer the opposition any small advantage and would be suggesting we do all we can to keep the other sides allocation down. A thousand or so scattered Villa fans in Fulham areas will make no tangible difference to the support on the day. Offering us another block ok 10-15,000 tickets for a bigger sea of claret and blue would.
We used to pride ourselves on being classy. I can see why other fans often thing we're just self entitled and arrogant.
I don't know. They give 7000 tickets away to other supporters every home game and their club has admitted they gave 5 tickets per season ticket holder so that a secondary market could be created as "Fulham fans can be trusted as to who they sell the tickets on to."
This was a naive decision and has created a significant tout market.
In years gone by, clubs like Hull and Wigan who have similarly small followings like Fulham, returned tickets so their opponents with larger support could go. Given there will be thousands of Villa who have been to games this season who cannot go, this seems unfair, while there are Tottenhams fans flogging £60 tickets at £100 plus a pop on Twitter. Yes there's arguments to be had that they ought to have assigned their tickets and what not, but ultimately you'll have 15,000 extra clappers on Saturday than perhaps there ought to have been.
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Just updated our school website. When you see it...
(https://image.ibb.co/jUNgao/IMG_20180524_110410.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gXtXgT)
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Just updated our school website. When you see it...
(https://image.ibb.co/jUNgao/IMG_20180524_110410.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gXtXgT)
It’s in foreign?
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Not the bit you want. :-)
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We're taking a French lad to the game on Saturday, he's also a teacher. He's on a 2 year secondment here to teach yam-yams how to speak French. It's his first trip to Wembley and he's very excited.
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There's a difference between being a small(ish) club and being small time. Small time is invading the pitch after Boro ;)
or Derby perhaps, or looking to maximism sales when you know you've got what 18000 fans.
That is such an arrogant comment. Just because they have an average attendance of 18-20k home fans it doesn't mean they only have 18k supporters. If they can fill their end with casual fans who will wear white and cheer for them then why the fuck wouldn't they do that? Should they say hands up Villa you are far bigger we wont even bother turning up? Or should they be doing all they can to give their team the best possible advantage?
If the boot was on the other foot you would be furious at suggestions we offer the opposition any small advantage and would be suggesting we do all we can to keep the other sides allocation down. A thousand or so scattered Villa fans in Fulham areas will make no tangible difference to the support on the day. Offering us another block ok 10-15,000 tickets for a bigger sea of claret and blue would.
We used to pride ourselves on being classy. I can see why other fans often thing we're just self entitled and arrogant.
I don't know. They give 7000 tickets away to other supporters every home game and their club has admitted they gave 5 tickets per season ticket holder so that a secondary market could be created as "Fulham fans can be trusted as to who they sell the tickets on to."
This was a naive decision and has created a significant tout market.
In years gone by, clubs like Hull and Wigan who have similarly small followings like Fulham, returned tickets so their opponents with larger support could go. Given there will be thousands of Villa who have been to games this season who cannot go, this seems unfair, while there are Tottenhams fans flogging £60 tickets at £100 plus a pop on Twitter. Yes there's arguments to be had that they ought to have assigned their tickets and what not, but ultimately you'll have 15,000 extra clappers on Saturday than perhaps there ought to have been.
Fulham quite rightly want to give themselves the best possible chance in this game. They want a sea of white. Giving villa another 10-20k of tickets would have disadvantaged them. Having some tickets in the hands of touts and Villa fans dotted around won't. If I was in their shoes I'd have done exactly the same.
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He's on a 2 year secondment here to teach yam-yams how to speak French.
"Nous savons ce que nous suis. Boing !"
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I doubt any club returned tickets so as the opposition could take more fans, it was so as they wouldn't be stuck with having to pay for them. Personally I think the way they're doing it is daft, but they are still fully entitled to do it.
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My boss has just offered me a free ticket with him in the Fulham end. I just don't think I can do it and will have to settle for TV if my one other possible chance of a ticket doesn't come off!
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I doubt any club returned tickets so as the opposition could take more fans, it was so as they wouldn't be stuck with having to pay for them. Personally I think the way they're doing it is daft, but they are still fully entitled to do it.
Either way, having an actual stated policy of wanting to create a secondary market is in my view idiotic. There cannot be a legitimate aspiration to create a sea of white clappers as there wont be full occupancy and all its done is allow Fulham season ticket holders to profiteer.
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My boss has just offered me a free ticket with him in the Fulham end. I just don't think I can do it and will have to settle for TV if my one other possible chance of a ticket doesn't come off!
Go to the game, much less stressful and you'll still have a cracking day.
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Any suggestions for venues showing game. Requirements are suitable for kids and predominantly villa fans?
My wife and uncle are watching it in the Northfield British Legion
Just down the road from where I live (but I will be at Wembley)! UTV
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I doubt any club returned tickets so as the opposition could take more fans, it was so as they wouldn't be stuck with having to pay for them. Personally I think the way they're doing it is daft, but they are still fully entitled to do it.
Either way, having an actual stated policy of wanting to create a secondary market is in my view idiotic. There cannot be a legitimate aspiration to create a sea of white clappers as there wont be full occupancy and all its done is allow Fulham season ticket holders to profiteer.
The stated policy is not wanting to create a secondary market, they are hoping fans will bring along mates and in the large part I suspect that will happen. Giving the opposition a potential advantage in arguably the most important game in their history would, in my view, be more idiotic.
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No, the stated policy is exactly that. They said as much at their annual trust meeting the other day.
They said that they trusted Fulham fans would be good judges of character as to who they sell their tickets to.
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If you're on Twitter this is a good spoof Fulham supporter account:
https://twitter.com/MikeConroyNo9
BE had a spar with him the other day.
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Not the bit you want. :-)
How do you say "Fuck the Fuckers" in French?
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No, the stated policy is exactly that. They said as much at their annual trust meeting the other day.
They said that they trusted Fulham fans would be good judges of character as to who they sell their tickets to.
yeah, ie bring, mates etc.
Either way as far as I am concerned if it was us I'd rather that than than give the opposition additional blocks of tickets.
However you feel about what they have done, I simply don't accept that if the boot was on the other foot you would think it a good idea to return 20k tickets to the opposition and give them the advantage on the day.
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There were 2000 of us at Boro and 25000 of them and it didn't give them an edge on the pitch or in volume.
Mixing tourists among the small number of them who do make a bit of noise is going to make them flatter than they always are. Twatty clappers wont make up for it.
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Sorry to post this here but I figure most of you aren't checking the ticket thread too frequently - any chance someone has 2 spare references available? Some returns have gone back on sale to those with 1+ booking history. Given my attendance has all been away games I'm in a bit of a fix....any help would be super appreciated. Thanks!
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There were 2000 of us at Boro and 25000 of them and it didn't give them an edge on the pitch or in volume.
Mixing tourists among the small number of them who do make a bit of noise is going to make them flatter than they always are. Twatty clappers wont make up for it.
This is just nonsense.
So in their shoes your suggestion would be let the opposition have approx 55,000 tickets and we'll take approx 25,000? If so, thank fuck you're not involved in any strategy for the club.
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I was surprised when I saw how many tickets Fulham allowed their season ticket holders to have but I understood it. It's as big a game for them as it is for us so you can't blame them for wanting as many of their fans there as possible.
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Not the bit you want. :-)
How do you say "Fuck the Fuckers" in French?
"On les emmerde [les enfoirés] !"
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We're taking a French lad to the game on Saturday, he's also a teacher. He's on a 2 year secondment here to teach yam-yams how to speak French. It's his first trip to Wembley and he's very excited.
Can you ask him to get the thick twats to speak English first
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We're taking a French lad to the game on Saturday, he's also a teacher. He's on a 2 year secondment here to teach yam-yams how to speak French. It's his first trip to Wembley and he's very excited.
Can you ask him to get the thick twats to speak English first
I loled.
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Rather than look at the numbers of fans on either side or the ticketing arrangements, I'd just say that it's the fans that show the greatest intensity and give the team unconditional support throughout the game that will give their team the best chance of succeeding.
Sounds a little crass, but it's true!
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There were 2000 of us at Boro and 25000 of them and it didn't give them an edge on the pitch or in volume.
Mixing tourists among the small number of them who do make a bit of noise is going to make them flatter than they always are. Twatty clappers wont make up for it.
This is just nonsense.
So in their shoes your suggestion would be let the opposition have approx 55,000 tickets and we'll take approx 25,000? If so, thank fuck you're not involved in any strategy for the club.
The only nonsense is your bizarre interpretation of my post.
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Rather than look at the numbers of fans on either side or the ticketing arrangements, I'd just say that it's the fans that show the greatest intensity and give the team unconditional support throughout the game that will give their team the best chance of succeeding.
Sounds a little crass, but it's true!
I don't think that's a crass view. Far from it.
Villa Park the other Tuesday was a cauldron, you don't get that at Craven Cottage and adding 20,000 day trippers or tourists on top wont change that at Wembley, no matter how many wanky clappers they give them.
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There were 2000 of us at Boro and 25000 of them and it didn't give them an edge on the pitch or in volume.
Mixing tourists among the small number of them who do make a bit of noise is going to make them flatter than they always are. Twatty clappers wont make up for it.
This is just nonsense.
So in their shoes your suggestion would be let the opposition have approx 55,000 tickets and we'll take approx 25,000? If so, thank fuck you're not involved in any strategy for the club.
The only nonsense is your bizarre interpretation of my post.
In years gone by, clubs like Hull and Wigan who have similarly small followings like Fulham, returned tickets so their opponents with larger support could go.
You have been supporting the stance Fulham should have returned tickets so Villa could have them rather than sell them in the way they have been. Following that rationale, if we were in their shoes you would be advocating giving back tickets so the opposition fans could have them. I can't see how that is a bizarre interpretation at all.
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The ticket allocations work both ways though
I remember an Arsenal season ticket holder lady friend of mine was well pissed off with me when she found out I got 3 FA Cup final tickets on the 5+ games criteria and she couldn’t get one even as a ST holder
She felt Arsenal should have had a larger allocation than Villa because they got bigger crowds and had more ST holders
she had the last laugh mind
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Football fans are segregated for a reason, it is sad, but necessary. I remember the 1970s. For me the behaviour of Fulham football club towards the sale of tickets flies in the face of common sense and is "asking for trouble". It only takes one or two idiots in a mixed crowd to set off serious public order issues and whilst Villa and Fulham have pretty good records of fan behaviour these days, if God forbid, there is trouble, their short term money grabbing antics will look pretty embarrassing at best. I am amazed the Met have not had something to say on this.
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Surely Man united in 2010, Liverpool 2015 semi and Arsenal in final should have had a larger allocation than us😉
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There were 2000 of us at Boro and 25000 of them and it didn't give them an edge on the pitch or in volume.
Mixing tourists among the small number of them who do make a bit of noise is going to make them flatter than they always are. Twatty clappers wont make up for it.
This is just nonsense.
So in their shoes your suggestion would be let the opposition have approx 55,000 tickets and we'll take approx 25,000? If so, thank fuck you're not involved in any strategy for the club.
The only nonsense is your bizarre interpretation of my post.
In years gone by, clubs like Hull and Wigan who have similarly small followings like Fulham, returned tickets so their opponents with larger support could go.
You have been supporting the stance Fulham should have returned tickets so Villa could have them rather than sell them in the way they have been. Following that rationale, if we were in their shoes you would be advocating giving back tickets so the opposition fans could have them. I can't see how that is a bizarre interpretation at all.
We're not in their shoes or ever likely to be in a situation where we're getting 17,000 home fans, not accounting for neutrals, gifting a quarter of our ground to others and deliberately attempting to create a secondary ticket market, which directly influences touting. So as I say, I find your 55,000 etc analogy a bit bizarre or nonsense if you prefer.
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Surely Man united in 2010, Liverpool 2015 semi and Arsenal in final should have had a larger allocation than us😉
The point is, we're not incapable of selling our allocation. Fulham are, which is why the club told their trust the other day they wanted a secondary market hence the 5 tickets if you can spell Fulham rule.
I find it objectionable that seats will be empty in the ground because of the greed of Fulham season ticket holders or that people have been forced into buying tickets above face value.
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John Terry 16/1 to score in the 90 mins at anytime on Saturday.
I had to have a flutter on that.
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I still fancy Kodjia to miraculously find his shooting boots. But I's take a goal or two from anyone.
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I accept that it’s not an holistic or credible approach where a club sells their entire allocation knowing full well that it will lead to abuse however as a business transaction they are fully justified to do so. As there is no criteria where allocation to clubs can be based on their average attendance we have to accept the current strategy and if allocation had been based on say average attendance we would have lost out in the past.
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There were 2000 of us at Boro and 25000 of them and it didn't give them an edge on the pitch or in volume.
Mixing tourists among the small number of them who do make a bit of noise is going to make them flatter than they always are. Twatty clappers wont make up for it.
This is just nonsense.
So in their shoes your suggestion would be let the opposition have approx 55,000 tickets and we'll take approx 25,000? If so, thank fuck you're not involved in any strategy for the club.
The only nonsense is your bizarre interpretation of my post.
In years gone by, clubs like Hull and Wigan who have similarly small followings like Fulham, returned tickets so their opponents with larger support could go.
You have been supporting the stance Fulham should have returned tickets so Villa could have them rather than sell them in the way they have been. Following that rationale, if we were in their shoes you would be advocating giving back tickets so the opposition fans could have them. I can't see how that is a bizarre interpretation at all.
We're not in their shoes or ever likely to be in a situation where we're getting 17,000 home fans, not accounting for neutrals, gifting a quarter of our ground to others and deliberately attempting to create a secondary ticket market, which directly influences touting. So as I say, I find your 55,000 etc analogy a bit bizarre or nonsense if you prefer.
I said IF we were in their shoes - ie we had the smaller support base. The analogy is perfectly rationale, it is just flipping the circumstances you are commenting on.
It would be daft for any club to hand an advantage to their opposition in such an important game which is exactly what you are suggesting they should have done. I find that bizarre.
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I said IF we were in their shoes - ie we had the smaller support base. The analogy is perfectly rationale, it is just flipping the circumstances you are commenting on.
It would be daft for any club to hand an advantage to their opposition in such an important game which is exactly what you are suggesting they should have done. I find that bizarre.
But we're not in their shoes. Plenty other clubs have been and they've looked after their core support and done the right thing by returning tickets they're incapable of selling, not deliberately creating a touts paradise.
Even if there was 38,000 Fulham there on Saturday, which there wont be, it would not be a level playing field noise wise in any event so what advantage you think is being spurned is beyond me. I assume you've been to Craven Cottage which is akin to Wimbledon, minus the strawberry and Pimms.
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At least Fulham have sold all theirs, we still haven't sold out yet...
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I said IF we were in their shoes - ie we had the smaller support base. The analogy is perfectly rationale, it is just flipping the circumstances you are commenting on.
It would be daft for any club to hand an advantage to their opposition in such an important game which is exactly what you are suggesting they should have done. I find that bizarre.
But we're not in their shoes. Plenty other clubs have been and they've looked after their core support and done the right thing by returning tickets they're incapable of selling, not deliberately creating a touts paradise.
Even if there was 38,000 Fulham there on Saturday, which there wont be, it would not be a level playing field noise wise in any event so what advantage you think is being spurned is beyond me. I assume you've been to Craven Cottage which is akin to Wimbledon, minus the strawberry and Pimms.
Who actually sells the tickets for this event (ie the FA sell the tickets for the semi and final of the FA Cup)? I guess whoever it is doesn't really care who gets them (unless it is a match where there is a potential for violence) as long as they shift the amount of tickets they want to.
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John Terry 16/1 to score in the 90 mins at anytime on Saturday.
I had to have a flutter on that.
The bookies have Fulham as favourites. They also have Alan Hutton to score at 33/1. Not sure if anybody else has noticed but he's been wearing his shooting boots recently. It's time one of those shots go in. Preferably the winner.
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John Terry 16/1 to score in the 90 mins at anytime on Saturday.
I had to have a flutter on that.
Same
my eldest reckons he’s seen it in a dream
Does ‘anytime’ include extra time if it happens, I know it says anytime but you know what bookies are like
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There are a handful of tickets available on the official Villa site now. Don't know why as Its supposedly sold out.
I know its on the wrong thread but people might not see it on the tickets and travel thread.
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At least Fulham have sold all theirs, we still haven't sold out yet...
Leeds would've sold more.
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There are a handful of tickets available on the official Villa site now. Don't know why as Its supposedly sold out.
I know its on the wrong thread but people might not see it on the tickets and travel thread.
Still cant get my hands on one without a reference...#beggingbowl
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John Terry 16/1 to score in the 90 mins at anytime on Saturday.
I had to have a flutter on that.
Same
my eldest reckons he’s seen it in a dream
Does ‘anytime’ include extra time if it happens, I know it says anytime but you know what bookies are like
Will only be inside 90 minutes for ‘anytime’
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There are a handful of tickets available on the official Villa site now. Don't know why as Its supposedly sold out.
I know its on the wrong thread but people might not see it on the tickets and travel thread.
Be returns and people taking up Club Wembley offers.
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John Terry 16/1 to score in the 90 mins at anytime on Saturday.
I had to have a flutter on that.
Same
my eldest reckons he’s seen it in a dream
Does ‘anytime’ include extra time if it happens, I know it says anytime but you know what bookies are like
Will only be inside 90 minutes for ‘anytime’
Ok thanks
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Fulham manager saying we are an ‘old and tired team’
Some of us fans answer to that description but FTF.
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Fulham manager saying we are an ‘old and tired team’
Some of us fans answer to that description but FTF.
Old? More experienced.
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Time for this - I might have peaked too soon though........Hail Saunders of the Villa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb47isR7Jaw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb47isR7Jaw)
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Paddy Power (https://news.paddypower.com/football/2018/05/23/aston-villa-fulham/?AFF_ID=16562&dclid=CO_mg7SsntsCFfMj0wodT3UHPg)
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An Aston Villa fanatic could miss his team's Championship play-off final on Sunday after his dog became overcome with excitement and chewed his tickets.
Andrew Talbot was overjoyed when he managed to get tickets for Villa's match of the season.
But his happiness turned to horror when his pesky cockapoo George got his chops on them after they dropped through his letter box.
George is now in the dog house with Andrew who faces an anxious wait to find out if he can still attend the final with his sons, Charlie, 12, and Louie, 10.
Villa have thrown the family a lifeline by putting it on its ticket reprint list.
It is hoped the Andrew, of Sutton Coldfield in the West Midlands, and his sons will have unchewed tickets ready for them to collect before the final.
Mr Talbot, who tweeted about his plight using the hashtag £dogforsale, said: 'I only found out about this when I received an awkward phone call at work from my wife, Nikki,'
'She called me to say something serious had happened! I couldn't shout at the dog because I was at work.
'He's only four months old and he's into chewing like most puppies. Only recently he's discovered a penchant for paper, as you can see by the state of the tickets.
'My colleagues at work have been royally taking the mickey.'
The 45-year-old Trinity Road season ticket holder has also been frantically contacting Wembley and Villa to check that the chewed-up tickets are still valid for Saturday's crunch clash against Fulham.
Fulham are the bookies' favourites to clinch victory and win promotion to the Premier League, but Mr Talbot is confident Steve Bruce's underdogs will have their day.
'I think we'll win because Fulham showed in the big game against Blues they don't really have the experience, and bottled the big occasion,' he said.
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/05/24/12/4C94EDF300000578-0-image-a-42_1527160146774.jpg)
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Not the bit you want. :-)
How do you say "Fuck the Fuckers" in French?
Wearing a beret a black and white hooped shirt and a string of onions around your neck.
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Paddy Power (https://news.paddypower.com/football/2018/05/23/aston-villa-fulham/?AFF_ID=16562&dclid=CO_mg7SsntsCFfMj0wodT3UHPg)
He's missed the 't' out in his surname.
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Paddy Power (https://news.paddypower.com/football/2018/05/23/aston-villa-fulham/?AFF_ID=16562&dclid=CO_mg7SsntsCFfMj0wodT3UHPg)
He's missed the 't' out in his surname.
I was just going to ask if his name is Jimmy Cun, and it very nearly is.
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I've just had a horrible thought. Apologies if already mentioned, but is there a chance that Bruce will move Hutton to the right and play Taylor on the left?
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I've just had a horrible thought. Apologies if already mentioned, but is there a chance that Bruce will move Hutton to the right and play Taylor on the left?
A possibility if Elmo fails his fitness test.
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I've just had a horrible thought. Apologies if already mentioned, but is there a chance that Bruce will move Hutton to the right and play Taylor on the left?
A possibility if Elmo fails his fitness test.
That would be horrible.
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I've just had a horrible thought. Apologies if already mentioned, but is there a chance that Bruce will move Hutton to the right and play Taylor on the left?
A possibility if Elmo fails his fitness test.
That would be horrible.
That would be like trying to plug a leak in your bath by smashing it with a hammer.
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I've just had a horrible thought. Apologies if already mentioned, but is there a chance that Bruce will move Hutton to the right and play Taylor on the left?
A possibility if Elmo fails his fitness test.
That would be horrible.
That would be like trying to plug a leak in your bath by smashing it with a hammer.
That is a great analogy!
I was gutted we bought Taylor. My brother reckons he's ok, international experience and was pretty solid at Swansea. I still think he's shite, but he has managed some big occasions before so here's hoping if he gets a game he can rise to it.
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No thank you to Taylor. Would rather have Bree and Hutton if El Mohamady is out. Or Thor instead of Bree.
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An Aston Villa fanatic could miss his team's Championship play-off final on Sunday after his dog became overcome with excitement and chewed his tickets.
Andrew Talbot was overjoyed when he managed to get tickets for Villa's match of the season.
But his happiness turned to horror when his pesky cockapoo George got his chops on them after they dropped through his letter box.
George is now in the dog house with Andrew who faces an anxious wait to find out if he can still attend the final with his sons, Charlie, 12, and Louie, 10.
Villa have thrown the family a lifeline by putting it on its ticket reprint list.
It is hoped the Andrew, of Sutton Coldfield in the West Midlands, and his sons will have unchewed tickets ready for them to collect before the final.
Mr Talbot, who tweeted about his plight using the hashtag £dogforsale, said: 'I only found out about this when I received an awkward phone call at work from my wife, Nikki,'
'She called me to say something serious had happened! I couldn't shout at the dog because I was at work.
'He's only four months old and he's into chewing like most puppies. Only recently he's discovered a penchant for paper, as you can see by the state of the tickets.
'My colleagues at work have been royally taking the mickey.'
The 45-year-old Trinity Road season ticket holder has also been frantically contacting Wembley and Villa to check that the chewed-up tickets are still valid for Saturday's crunch clash against Fulham.
Fulham are the bookies' favourites to clinch victory and win promotion to the Premier League, but Mr Talbot is confident Steve Bruce's underdogs will have their day.
'I think we'll win because Fulham showed in the big game against Blues they don't really have the experience, and bottled the big occasion,' he said.
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/05/24/12/4C94EDF300000578-0-image-a-42_1527160146774.jpg)
When you read this Andy you are a media whore.
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Just seen part of an interview with their manager.
I can safely say, he’s a bit of a fucking knob.
Apparently, we are old and tired and experience means nothing compared to youth.
Maybe we shouldn’t bother going on Saturday?
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Let’s go anyway and fuck them, half interested bunch of Tarquins, apart from Terry McCann of course
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Jokanovic making some bold statements. Not that we need it, but there's some extra motivation.
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Showing a bit of inexperience making comments like that, only one team it’s going to gee up.
FTF
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Just seen part of an interview with their manager.
I can safely say, he’s a bit of a fucking knob.
Apparently, we are old and tired and experience means nothing compared to youth.
Maybe we shouldn’t bother going on Saturday?
When Jacks run rings round them for 90 minutes he might regret these comments
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I really don't think players in a Wembley final will be affected by what the opposition manager says.
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Disagree, for some of our lads whom this might be their last Villa appearance that might very well be an additional motivation for a great big Fuck You.
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They're professional footballers. Whatever anyone else says or does will have no effect on their performance - if they aren't going to give their all anyway they shouldn't be anywhere near playing.
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Statistics show clearly that the more you pay players the more likely the chance of them being successful, doesn’t stop cup upsets.
If Fulham, or Villa players were on more bonus to win on Saturday I don’t think it would affect the result. It’s very close margins and things like the Fulham managers comments might make a difference.
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I doubt our players will even know he's said anything.
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Just read on the Fulham forum that one of them has bet £350 on us to win. His thinking is if Fulham win he's happy and if we win he's quids in. I hope he enjoys the money.
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If we’ve read it, they will have read it.
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The sha players certainly knew what Ollie had said.
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I don't see what being a professional has to do with taking offence. It would annoy me. Ollie's comments wound the Noses right up.
Snoddy etc are all over Twitter so I would imagine they have seen it.
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Often managers make public statements for the benefit of their own team.
The biggest advantage we have over them is the experience running through our team.
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The sha players certainly knew what Ollie had said.
Because Bruce pinned it up in their dressing room
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All about marginal gains.
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Were going to wemberlllllllleeeee tomorrow boys. Let the battle begin ....
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we are but Talkshite are doing their best to jinx it for us - everyone last night went for a Villa win
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Had a nightmare we lost 3-1.
Very vivid. Part of the nightmare was escaping a police cordon that was closing in following an armed robbery and sneaking out and via a school, pinching a car and getting away. So I think we're ok premenision wise.
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This time tomorrow I'll be setting off. Buzzing/shitting myself in equal measure! We're on our way.
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McCafu to mark Sessignon key to nulling their threat.
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I’ve been shitting bricks for a week now - never been so nervous before a Villa game
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ur tag line brings back a few memories in the top left, Chico circa 87-91
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I’ve been shitting bricks for a week now - never been so nervous before a Villa game
I'm relaxed about the game I have faith in the lads to beat Fulham we have a good team experienced I know we don't do things easy at Villa but I've got that feeling this is our time Chico.
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Had a nightmare we lost 3-1.
Very vivid. Part of the nightmare was escaping a police cordon that was closing in following an armed robbery and sneaking out and via a school, pinching a car and getting away. So I think we're ok premenision wise.
We lost 6-0 in my dream. We were however playing Ipswich, and the match was taking place at Maes Tegid, home of Bala Town FC, so I think we're equally safe with my premenision.
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Had a nightmare we lost 3-1.
Very vivid. Part of the nightmare was escaping a police cordon that was closing in following an armed robbery and sneaking out and via a school, pinching a car and getting away. So I think we're ok premenision wise.
We lost 6-0 in my dream. We were however playing Ipswich, and the match was taking place at Maes Tegid, home of Bala Town FC, so I think we're equally safe with my premenision.
I was knocking the back out of Kylie in my dream, if that helps?
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Cue old man with a walking stick celebration when we smash home our 3rd after a slick counter attack late on.
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Interesting perspective on teams that play in play-offs:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44120535
This season has been progress no matter what happens. The course to world domination is still being followed. It would just take one season longer.
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Elmo is expected to be fit, apparently.
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Elmo is expected to be fit, apparently.
I think we'll start him even if he isn't 100%. Don't think SB will be comfortable putting in Bree for this one.
Just hope his hamstring dosen't go, not just for us but he'd miss the World cup aswell.
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Elmo is expected to be fit, apparently.
Would be a big boost. Only decision left then I'm guessing would be Jedinak or Whelan in the defensive midfield role.
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Cue old man with a walking stick celebration when we smash home our 3rd after a slick counter attack late on.
I think I would actually be thrown out for masturbating if that happened :)
I am very excited but not nervous and I think I know the reason why. It is not because I am overly confident it is because I am not fearful of losing.
Both recent FA cup finals I was a bag of nerves as all my life I have wanted to see us lift the FA cup - between each time I have been it was 15 years and as I am getting older I fear that the next time would be the last time I get the chance so a lot of my footballing life is riding on it (hence how gutted I was at both feeble efforts we provided in 2000 and 2015)
Tomorrow is different - of course if we lose it will mean a change of Manager, a big change in personnel as we would obviously lose a good few players, but it could also be the start of something bigger with the next generation as we rebuild from within (of course the other side is we fall away into oblivion like all the other fading ex teams such as Forest / Wednesday / Leeds etc). I, like a good few on here, have enjoyed the 2nd season in the championship as we started the season as one of 10 teams who could actually win it never mind getting in the playoffs and that has been really exciting. Watching the latter stages of the season and looking out for other results was a real thrill and reminded me of previous promotions and when we won the league in 81 .Lets face it for 15 teams in the Premiership next season the first game is the start of a relegation battle and we would be in it.
Either way - really hope tomorrow is a great game and we get the right result.
UTV
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Elmo is expected to be fit, apparently.
It's a tricky one as if he limps off early on we are wasting a sub.
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Elmo is expected to be fit, apparently.
It's a tricky one as if he limps off early on we are wasting a sub.
The player himself will know that as well so I expect he would be honest and advise the Manager himself. Always a danger with a hamstring is marking a fast player that a quick turn or burst of speed could do it damage.
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I’ve been shitting bricks for a week now - never been so nervous before a Villa game
I'm relaxed about the game I have faith in the lads to beat Fulham we have a good team experienced I know we don't do things easy at Villa but I've got that feeling this is our time Chico.
I'm in a similar place Darren. Experience, will to win, and on our day style... Jack has stepped up before, hopefully he was not be trying too hard in the wrong way, he can certainly can afford to be more confident these days...
Seeing the Rolling Stones @ Olympic stadium tonight as my warm up for the main event, wondering what would be the most appropriate song they might play?
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I'd like to see Villa come out blazing and attack the fuck out of them - they won't know what's hit them - go 2 up really quickly then steal a few more as they leave themselves exposed at the back.
Fuck the fuckers.
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Seeing the Rolling Stones @ Olympic stadium tonight as my warm up for the main event, wondering what would be the most appropriate song they might play?
'Think I'm Going Mad'?
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Cue old man with a walking stick celebration when we smash home our 3rd after a slick counter attack late on.
I think I would actually be thrown out for masturbating if that happened :)
I am very excited but not nervous and I think I know the reason why. It is not because I am overly confident it is because I am not fearful of losing.
Both recent FA cup finals I was a bag of nerves as all my life I have wanted to see us lift the FA cup - between each time I have been it was 15 years and as I am getting older I fear that the next time would be the last time I get the chance so a lot of my footballing life is riding on it (hence how gutted I was at both feeble efforts we provided in 2000 and 2015)
Tomorrow is different - of course if we lose it will mean a change of Manager, a big change in personnel as we would obviously lose a good few players, but it could also be the start of something bigger with the next generation as we rebuild from within (of course the other side is we fall away into oblivion like all the other fading ex teams such as Forest / Wednesday / Leeds etc). I, like a good few on here, have enjoyed the 2nd season in the championship as we started the season as one of 10 teams who could actually win it never mind getting in the playoffs and that has been really exciting. Watching the latter stages of the season and looking out for other results was a real thrill and reminded me of previous promotions and when we won the league in 81 .Lets face it for 15 teams in the Premiership next season the first game is the start of a relegation battle and we would be in it.
Either way - really hope tomorrow is a great game and we get the right result.
UTV
Completely agree with your sentiment Hookey, Mentally scarred by the Arsenal no show, even my youngest son is worried. Probably not helped by me saying that this is probably the biggest game in our history with all that is at stake .
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Seeing the Rolling Stones @ Olympic stadium tonight as my warm up for the main event, wondering what would be the most appropriate song they might play?
'Think I'm Going Mad'?
Jumping Jack Grealish
Fool ham to cry.
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I think we'll do it, mainly because of the number of kicks-in-the-bollocks we've had stretching back to the 2010 League Cup final. Our shitty run of luck can't continue any longer. Tomorrow's the day it all changes.
Been saying 1-0 (Snodgrass) all week and I'm not changing my prediction now.
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Desperate for a win and a party. It's not the biggest accomplishment we'd have ever achieved, but we haven't had many days to really really enjoy for a while now. Liverpool 2015 and I'm struggling to stretch for anything else since Bolton 2000. Few derby wins here and there which are great, but promotion would be excellent fun.
Hopefully a win, and Don't Look Back in Anger to play - that would be very fitting
UTV
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I'm just off to pick up the mini bus for the Bournemouth Lions. 16 of us by mini bus and at last count at least another 10 by train. A coach is also going from Weymouth, so good numbers from Dorset. Nervous already, god knows what I will be like by kick off! Please let it be our day!!! UTV
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we are but Talkshite are doing their best to jinx it for us - everyone last night went for a Villa win
Barstards
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Unashamedly this is a dream come true for me. I am going to Wembley with my 2 sons for the first time and I am choked that they will be beside me when the full time whistle goes and we have won. :-)
My father and brother have never been interested in football as much as me so I had to wait till I had my own kids, wait patiently till they grew and wait for the next opportunity (if ever!) we would get to watch the Villa at Wembley. Havent been able to go since 2011 and now its here. The outpouring of emotion during the Wolves game hopefully will be repeated on Saturday in the West Stand at Wembley.
Think we will get an early goal then defend for 75 mins and catch a 2nd on the break with a few mins to go to wrap it up.
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They've actually gone and done it, Fulham have put a white flag and a frigging clapper on the seats in the East Stands at Wembley, will there be face painting and balloon animals as well?
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Tomorrow is bigger than any cup final for us. Lose a cup final, ok you're gutted but you carry on and it doesn't affect the club. Lose tomorrow and we'll be another Leeds and be down here for years. There's no better time to be promoted, it's where all the money is and 12 of the teams up there are shit. Everton finished 8th and they're garbage.
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Just saved my iPhone wallpaper to this. Nicked off Twitter but it’s from the official club site
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"You can stick your fucking clappers up your arse!..."🎵
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Clappers should be filed alongside drums for twattery that should automatically result in your club being relegated to the 4th division.
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"You can stick your fucking clappers up your arse!..."🎵
Lube or no lube?
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"You can stick your fucking clappers up your arse!..."🎵
"We're Aston Villa, we clap with our hands"
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Last full day in Division 2. Come on Villa boys. Carpe diem.
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Last full day in Division 2. Come on Villa boys. Carpe diem.
I think until the Premier League AGM happens we are officially still in the Championship.
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They've actually gone and done it, Fulham have put a white flag and a frigging clapper on the seats in the East Stands at Wembley, will there be face painting and balloon animals as well?
Are those flags or Klan outfits?
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White flags... bit early for that.
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Last full day in Division 2. Come on Villa boys. Carpe diem.
I think until the Premier League AGM happens we are officially still in the Championship.
Right.
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The amount of spares going in the Fulham end on Twitter is ridiculous. Everyone trying to flog them last minute.
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36 years to the day that we won the European cup, oh please lord of omens ...
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Seeing the Rolling Stones @ Olympic stadium tonight as my warm up for the main event, wondering what would be the most appropriate song they might play?
'Think I'm Going Mad'?
Jumping Jack Grealish
Fool ham to cry.
JJG definitely the winner so far. I have so say I'm ignoring Florence & the Machine just as much as last time I saw 'em at a festy. Happy night before socialising brothers & sisters. May we soon be back where we belong...
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It has just hit me. The nerves and the slight sick feeling in my stomach. I knew it would start some time tonight.
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I think we will win this, actually getting less nervous the closer we get. 3-1 to the Villa.
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It's dawning on me, after blocking it out until I left work yesterday, that this is the most excited I've ever been before a game. When that includes Cup finals and derbies and European games, it's quite a strange feeling.
But I am fucking buzzing.
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It has just hit me. The nerves and the slight sick feeling in my stomach. I knew it would start some time tonight.
Yep, that's me too. I can't go and I can't get pissed enough to watch it on tv due to family commitments. I was in this position with the semis, and turned the radio on in my car when my watch told me even extra time plus penalties would be done...just in time to hear (I think) Dion's penalty go in. OH BOLLOCKS. Turned it back on again five minutes later. No idea what I'll do tomorrow.
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I think we will win this, actually getting less nervous the closer we get. 3-1 to the Villa.
That’s been my prediction all along and I’ve had a sneaky tenner at 33/1 on it.
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It has just hit me. The nerves and the slight sick feeling in my stomach. I knew it would start some time tonight.
Are you sure that's not the start of the shits?
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Despite the massive importance of the game it's way down my list of excitement with the Villa. For me it's a stupidly expensive glorified league game and isn't even close to how I felt before the QF, SF and final in 2015 as recent examples. Maybe i'd feel different if I was going but I don't think so as it's how I felt when it reached my criteria and I decided against buying a ticket. I still hope to fuck we win mind. Maybe a bit bizarrely, I reckon i'd be a lot more excited and nervous if it was still a winner takes all scenario, but was the 46th game league game of the season.
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Yes!! Get in !!! What a fantastic 3-0 win, Fulham were never in it and Jacks 30 yard screamer was a worldie!!
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Bollocks. Accidentally posted 24 hours early. Will re- post on the post match thread same time tomorrow
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It's dawning on me, after blocking it out until I left work yesterday, that this is the most excited I've ever been before a game. When that includes Cup finals and derbies and European games, it's quite a strange feeling.
But I am fucking buzzing.
This. My stomach is in knots. Can't wait to get on the beers tomorrow to calm the nerves. Can't even bring myself to make a prediction, I honestly can't call the game. One minute I'm confident and then the next I'm shitting myself and can't see us winning!
Our end will be bouncing though, the atmosphere will be electric.
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C'mon lads. Faint hearts never won fair maiden. We're going to stand tall and stare them down.
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I’m still angry we didn’t go up automatically. I’m glad for everyone who’s excited by doing the business tomorrow but we shouldn’t really be in this position. We are. Win and it’s all irrelevant. Lose and it’s depressingly relevant. Like a salesman with one last shot at hitting his budget. I’m not excited at all.
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Those who aren't that arsed about tomorrow's game, come back to me in 10 years when we're still down here like Leeds. Tomorrow is massive for the future of the club.
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Having said all that. I’ll be doing my best to help get them over the line.
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Those who aren't that arsed about tomorrow's game, come back to me in 10 years when we're still down here like Leeds. Tomorrow is massive for the future of the club.
Has anyone said it isn't massive? I specifically said it was, just that it doesn't excite me like a big cup game does.
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I’m still angry we didn’t go up automatically. I’m glad for everyone who’s excited by doing the business tomorrow but we shouldn’t really be in this position. We are. Win and it’s all irrelevant. Lose and it’s depressingly relevant. Like a salesman with one last shot at hitting his budget. I’m not excited at all.
I’m guessing you are very much in the minority.
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Far more nervous whenever we're in an FA cup or league cup final.
Yes I want us to win tomorrow and it'd be frustrating if we don't make it but I feel we've stabilised as a club now and think we can get up in next two years anyway.
Cost cutting might stop us going up next year but then again Cardiff and Huddersfield have gone up in last two years with annual budget of 5p so our mass spending in last 18 months has created an illusion you need to spend 50m to get promoted.
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I'm with Quinton , on this this game is pivotal.
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If we lose we'll lose Johnstone, Terry, Snodgrass, maybe Chester to a Premier League team. That's a lot of experience and quality to replace. We would have to rebuild again and next season would be a wash out, mid table at best. I firmly believe if we lose tomorrow we'll be down here for years.
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I am actually more nervous now than I was in Rotterdam. Lose that evening and we will have done great to get to the final. Lose tomorrow and we have a real struggle next season, though as a positive some of the young lads will get a chance. I have hardly slept all week
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People don't think we could get up in next two years?
I know the loans would have to go back and Terry would probably move on but it's hardly like we'd have to put the youth team out, we should still be around the top 6.
Was talking to a guy who worked for the Nottingham Post the other day (was on same train as me) and he said Forest wanted Grabban and Jack Marriott (striker from Peterbrough) but he reckons we'd sign both if we don't go up. I joked Forest could have Hogan for a fiver.
A strikeforce next season of Kodjia, Grabban, Marriot and Kienan Davis still looks o.k to me and we could still get loans to plug other areas just like we've done this season.
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I’m still angry we didn’t go up automatically. I’m glad for everyone who’s excited by doing the business tomorrow but we shouldn’t really be in this position. We are. Win and it’s all irrelevant. Lose and it’s depressingly relevant. Like a salesman with one last shot at hitting his budget. I’m not excited at all.
I’m guessing you are very much in the minority.
Of course It’s important we win as the outcome is literally a bronze medal that’s as good as a gold. It will also be a good day out, but having seen this club win a few things I’m not overly excited about getting 3rd in the 2nd division.
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Count me in with the buzzkills. I'm disappointed that we're in this position, but at least we're still in it.
Win, and I'll be pleased, over the moon even, as much as anything else because I'm dying to see what Tone has got planned.
Lose, shit happens, life goes on, as you were, we're in this crappy division for another twelve months minimum.
But I can’t get myself excited about the occasion itself. Maybe I'll feel different when I'm in it, when I'm hoarse, when I'm deafened, when I'm engulfed by a sea of colours.
But right now, compared to a Cup final or even a semi, nah, not even close.
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Not nervous in the slightest.
Tomorrow we will take care of business.
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People don't think we could get up in next two years?
I know the loans would have to go back and Terry would probably move on but it's hardly like we'd have to put the youth team out, we should still be around the top 6.
Was talking to a guy who worked for the Nottingham Post the other day (was on same train as me) and he said Forest wanted Grabban and Jack Marriott (striker from Peterbrough) but he reckons we'd sign both if we don't go up. I joked Forest could have Hogan for a fiver.
A strikeforce next season of Kodjia, Grabban, Marriot and Kienan Davis still looks o.k to me and we could still get loans to plug other areas just like we've done this season.
What makes you think that Marriot is better than Hogan?
I think we may lose players such as Chester and maybe even Jack if we don't go up and couldn't blame them for moving on as they deserve to be playing in division one
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When we went down I said that if we were relying on Jack Grealish to get us out of the Championship we were going to be disappointed.
Obviously it takes more than one player but I think tomorrow Jack will prove me wrong, he was born to do this.
It would be criminal if he wasn't playing in the Premier League next season.
UTV
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I’m still angry we didn’t go up automatically. I’m glad for everyone who’s excited by doing the business tomorrow but we shouldn’t really be in this position. We are. Win and it’s all irrelevant. Lose and it’s depressingly relevant. Like a salesman with one last shot at hitting his budget. I’m not excited at all.
I’m guessing you are very much in the minority.
Of course It’s important we win as the outcome is literally a bronze medal that’s as good as a gold. It will also be a good day out, but having seen this club win a few things I’m not overly excited about getting 3rd in the 2nd division.
If, and it is a big if, we win, it will certainly be exciting for me and I am an old git who has been there when we have won the league and european cup, along with many other things since the early 70s.
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When we went down I said that if we were relying on Jack Grealish to get us out of the Championship we were going to be disappointed.
Obviously it takes more than one player but I think tomorrow Jack will prove me wrong, he was born to do this.
It would be criminal if he wasn't playing in the Premier League next season.
UTV
Wembley has seen some wonder goals in the play offs over the past few years, I think Grealish will add to the list tomorrow.
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We’ll shit em
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Paddy Power part 2 (https://news.paddypower.com/football/2018/05/24/the-premier-league-would-be-better-off-if-villa-were-promoted-not-fulham/?AFF_ID=16562&utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=referral&dclid=CIePl5Sin9sCFUfjGwodbDYKTQ)
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Well what can I say it should be a great final and its probably too close to call, but hey I'm hardly going to go against Villa on this one am I? With my positive head on will 2-1 Villa after extra time (this one could go all the way), Grealish and Terry to get our goals. Up the Villa! Lets hope its a special day in our history :)
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I’m full of nerves and full of excitement in equal measure. I’m expecting a fairly sleepless night but nevertheless I’ll get up early and look forward to whatever the big day brings.
After an early meet in Canary Wharf, I’ll head up to the Green Man for a few pre-match beers and to soak up the atmosphere. When Villa fans all move together, we’re an unstoppable force, hopefully tomorrow is one of those days. Enjoy the ride everyone..........UTV.
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Lets give them every encouragement we can, I am so buzzing for tomorrow
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People don't think we could get up in next two years?
I know the loans would have to go back and Terry would probably move on but it's hardly like we'd have to put the youth team out, we should still be around the top 6.
Was talking to a guy who worked for the Nottingham Post the other day (was on same train as me) and he said Forest wanted Grabban and Jack Marriott (striker from Peterbrough) but he reckons we'd sign both if we don't go up. I joked Forest could have Hogan for a fiver.
A strikeforce next season of Kodjia, Grabban, Marriot and Kienan Davis still looks o.k to me and we could still get loans to plug other areas just like we've done this season.
What makes you think that Marriot is better than Hogan?
I think we may lose players such as Chester and maybe even Jack if we don't go up and couldn't blame them for moving on as they deserve to be playing in division one
Yes Jack and Chester could well go but if they do I'd be confident of getting close to 30m for those two so we'd still have a decent kitty to spend at this level.
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I've had three nods from providence today that told we're going to do it.
- Jack Grealish has moved in across the road from my sister in Barnt Green.
- I was in the area today visiting the ancestor. On the train back to London this evening I was engrossed in a book. The first time of the entire journey that I looked up and out of the window I was passing Wembley stadium.
- I remembered that I wrote at some point on here earlier in the season that I 'guarantee that we won't be promoted' under SB.
Bring it on.
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People don't think we could get up in next two years?
I know the loans would have to go back and Terry would probably move on but it's hardly like we'd have to put the youth team out, we should still be around the top 6.
Was talking to a guy who worked for the Nottingham Post the other day (was on same train as me) and he said Forest wanted Grabban and Jack Marriott (striker from Peterbrough) but he reckons we'd sign both if we don't go up. I joked Forest could have Hogan for a fiver.
A strikeforce next season of Kodjia, Grabban, Marriot and Kienan Davis still looks o.k to me and we could still get loans to plug other areas just like we've done this season.
What makes you think that Marriot is better than Hogan?
I think we may lose players such as Chester and maybe even Jack if we don't go up and couldn't blame them for moving on as they deserve to be playing in division one
Yes Jack and Chester could well go but if they do I'd be confident of getting close to 30m for those two so we'd still have a decent kitty to spend at this level.
What about FFP? These two blokes are the heartbeat of our team, Jack loves the club as much as any of us. It will be harder next season with the likes of Stoke and Forest being more involved
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We have superior resources, and at last, in the play offs, SB has paid attention to the strengths of the opposition.
We should get the job done. If we don't, then we are going to have to start using the youth system in a major way, the likes of which we have never seen before.
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SE, if that's not ABSOLUTE PROOF then I don't know what is.
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Once again, Monty, we agree.
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SE what type of day am I going to have on Sunday? Any guidance would really help. Thank you.
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People don't think we could get up in next two years?
I know the loans would have to go back and Terry would probably move on but it's hardly like we'd have to put the youth team out, we should still be around the top 6.
Was talking to a guy who worked for the Nottingham Post the other day (was on same train as me) and he said Forest wanted Grabban and Jack Marriott (striker from Peterbrough) but he reckons we'd sign both if we don't go up. I joked Forest could have Hogan for a fiver.
A strikeforce next season of Kodjia, Grabban, Marriot and Kienan Davis still looks o.k to me and we could still get loans to plug other areas just like we've done this season.
What makes you think that Marriot is better than Hogan?
I think we may lose players such as Chester and maybe even Jack if we don't go up and couldn't blame them for moving on as they deserve to be playing in division one
Yes Jack and Chester could well go but if they do I'd be confident of getting close to 30m for those two so we'd still have a decent kitty to spend at this level.
What about FFP? These two blokes are the heartbeat of our team, Jack loves the club as much as any of us. It will be harder next season with the likes of Stoke and Forest being more involved
I don't know the full ins and outs of FFP but I'd say if we can raise 30m from player sales we should be o.k with it, transfer embargos are for the likes of SHA massively overspending and they've escaped a ban so far. FFP restricted us last summer in that we couldn't go out and buy more 10m + strikers but given lack of success of Hogan and McCormack I wouldn't say that's a bad thing.
You shouldn't need to spend 30m + to get promoted from this league anyway as I said earlier.
For me the most crucial thing is we've now stopped the losing culture that ran through the squad. You saw that after the premier league relegation and despite adding kodj, Jedi, Chester, Adomah etc we still couldn't win a game opening two months of the following season.
The club expects to win again so don't see why 5-6 new players in this summer would suddenly turn us back into a losing machine unless we signed them from Sunderland.
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Seeing the Rolling Stones @ Olympic stadium tonight as my warm up for the main event, wondering what would be the most appropriate song they might play?
'Think I'm Going Mad'?
Jumping Jack Grealish
Fool ham to cry.
JJG definitely the winner so far. I have so say I'm ignoring Florence & the Machine just as much as last time I saw 'em at a festy. Happy night before socialising brothers & sisters. May we soon be back where we belong...
More omens? The Stones opened with Jumping Jack Grealish and Keef was sporting a blue shirt over a claret t-shirt.
C'mon you LIONS! 🦁
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SE what type of day am I going to have on Sunday? Any guidance would really help. Thank you.
I guarantee that you won't be promoted, what with it being a Bank Holiday weekend.
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I've had a lovely meal, a nice botlle of red and a jump.
It's all good in the hood. 3-1 The Villa.
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People don't think we could get up in next two years?
I know the loans would have to go back and Terry would probably move on but it's hardly like we'd have to put the youth team out, we should still be around the top 6.
Was talking to a guy who worked for the Nottingham Post the other day (was on same train as me) and he said Forest wanted Grabban and Jack Marriott (striker from Peterbrough) but he reckons we'd sign both if we don't go up. I joked Forest could have Hogan for a fiver.
A strikeforce next season of Kodjia, Grabban, Marriot and Kienan Davis still looks o.k to me and we could still get loans to plug other areas just like we've done this season.
What makes you think that Marriot is better than Hogan?
I think we may lose players such as Chester and maybe even Jack if we don't go up and couldn't blame them for moving on as they deserve to be playing in division one
Yes Jack and Chester could well go but if they do I'd be confident of getting close to 30m for those two so we'd still have a decent kitty to spend at this level.
What about FFP? These two blokes are the heartbeat of our team, Jack loves the club as much as any of us. It will be harder next season with the likes of Stoke and Forest being more involved
I don't know the full ins and outs of FFP but I'd say if we can raise 30m from player sales we should be o.k with it, transfer embargos are for the likes of SHA massively overspending and they've escaped a ban so far. FFP restricted us last summer in that we couldn't go out and buy more 10m + strikers but given lack of success of Hogan and McCormack I wouldn't say that's a bad thing.
You shouldn't need to spend 30m + to get promoted from this league anyway as I said earlier.
For me the most crucial thing is we've now stopped the losing culture that ran through the squad. You saw that after the premier league relegation and despite adding kodj, Jedi, Chester, Adomah etc we still couldn't win a game opening two months of the following season.
The club expects to win again so don't see why 5-6 new players in this summer would suddenly turn us back into a losing machine unless we signed them from Sunderland.
We will need a new keeper, two centre halves, our most talented player perhaps for starters. These parachute payments from the premiership is making it harder every year.
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I feel we've stabilised as a club now and think we can get up in next two years anyway.
I continue to believe this 'stability' is very much overrated. Tomorrow is all about death or glory. Fortunately I think we can do it as although we're been criminally inconsistent when we're good we're magic. Tomorrow we'll be magic.
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Our fans will own the stadium and make it very loud.
Fulham will play well then slowly crumble.
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Our fans will own the stadium and make it very loud.
Fulham will play well then slowly crumble.
Every one of us will need to make a real effort and spur the lads on. They have clappers you know lol
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I've had a lovely meal, a nice botlle of red and a jump.
It's all good in the hood. 3-1 The Villa.
A jump? Not heard it called that since Rita Sue And Bob Too.
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People don't think we could get up in next two years?
I know the loans would have to go back and Terry would probably move on but it's hardly like we'd have to put the youth team out, we should still be around the top 6.
Was talking to a guy who worked for the Nottingham Post the other day (was on same train as me) and he said Forest wanted Grabban and Jack Marriott (striker from Peterbrough) but he reckons we'd sign both if we don't go up. I joked Forest could have Hogan for a fiver.
A strikeforce next season of Kodjia, Grabban, Marriot and Kienan Davis still looks o.k to me and we could still get loans to plug other areas just like we've done this season.
What makes you think that Marriot is better than Hogan?
I think we may lose players such as Chester and maybe even Jack if we don't go up and couldn't blame them for moving on as they deserve to be playing in division one
Yes Jack and Chester could well go but if they do I'd be confident of getting close to 30m for those two so we'd still have a decent kitty to spend at this level.
What about FFP? These two blokes are the heartbeat of our team, Jack loves the club as much as any of us. It will be harder next season with the likes of Stoke and Forest being more involved
I don't know the full ins and outs of FFP but I'd say if we can raise 30m from player sales we should be o.k with it, transfer embargos are for the likes of SHA massively overspending and they've escaped a ban so far. FFP restricted us last summer in that we couldn't go out and buy more 10m + strikers but given lack of success of Hogan and McCormack I wouldn't say that's a bad thing.
You shouldn't need to spend 30m + to get promoted from this league anyway as I said earlier.
For me the most crucial thing is we've now stopped the losing culture that ran through the squad. You saw that after the premier league relegation and despite adding kodj, Jedi, Chester, Adomah etc we still couldn't win a game opening two months of the following season.
The club expects to win again so don't see why 5-6 new players in this summer would suddenly turn us back into a losing machine unless we signed them from Sunderland.
We will need a new keeper, two centre halves, our most talented player perhaps for starters. These parachute payments from the premiership is making it harder every year.
Not so sure about that. There are a number of peripheral squad players who are earning decent money and if they could be moved on, then I think we would be able to keep the majority of the starting XI intact.
Probably shouldn’t say it, but I am feeling pretty confident about tomorrow.
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We have keep our composure tomorrow. It’s going to take big players to be big. And our experience will win the day along with a bit of Jack magic. Also think Kodjia will start and a difference maker. Hutton will keep Sessegnon quiet, Terry will handle Mitrovic. I’m nervous as hell.
Good luck to all the fans travelling down. Be safe and cheer them on.
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I've had a lovely meal, a nice botlle of red and a jump.
It's all good in the hood. 3-1 The Villa.
A jump? Not heard it called that since Rita Sue And Bob Too.
I’ve been having a gang bang.
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I'm up and ready to go... Hardly slept to be fair.
Can't wait....
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Why am I awake?
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I’m absolutely bricking it now.
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Right I can’t sleep anymore:
As someone supposedly said last Saturday “i’m Shitting it”
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Can’t be there this time but wishing everyone who is the best day ever. Be safe, be loud, let’s get it done. UTV.
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36 years on if it takes another miss-hit goal and a backs-to-the-wall 1-0 victory, I won't be complaining.
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Our fans will own the stadium and make it very loud.
Fulham will play well then slowly crumble.
Every one of us will need to make a real effort and spur the lads on. They have clappers you know lol
The Villa fans will do their bit, didn't you love it against boro the last fifteen minutes , " Claret and Blue Army" belting out. Today Fulham will shit themselves at the Villa support.
On the pitch their manager was a gift , what a wonderful thing to say, if that don't give us an edge:
All this talk about this good football team ffs its Fulham and what do they have two / three players, again like boro their weakness is their defence. so with our tired old experienced players and manager, we'll give it a go. UTV.
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Right I can’t sleep anymore:
As someone supposedly said last Saturday “i’m Shitting it”
Are you doing it in the woods?
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Right I can’t sleep anymore:
As someone supposedly said last Saturday “i’m Shitting it”
Are you doing it in the woods?
titter titter
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Already had two poo’s ffs
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It's been a long time since I was this nervous prior to a game. I just want it over and done with and us back in the premiership.
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Wish it was an earlier kick off, can't stand another 10 hours of this. Think I'm going to have a whisky to calm the nerves.
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Went out for an early walk, thinking "this time tomorrow it will all be over".
OK. Time to go. Let's do this....
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Heading down shortly. Come on you lions! If the Villans on the pitch do their job (a clean sheet would help) and the Villans in the stands do theirs (a wall of noise), we can do this!!!! UTV, VTID!
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At last the day is here. Time will judge the enormity of it, but I think it's more important than any of us realise.
If it goes our way, make the most of it because days like today don't come around often.
It's men vs boys
It's Lions vs Tarquins waving white flags
It's History & prestige vs the anonymous
It's 26th May
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I'm going to hoover the car.
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Nerves are starting 2amko for me ,might get a few hours in before then, win doesn’t matter how UTV
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Made our way down last night when we heard about the train chaos. Fuck it! Today's the day boys and girls lets raise the roof and have some fun. We need the same performance and attitude we had for the wolves game from players and fans alike. We we're all getting caught up in the hype then and we blew them away. Fuck em. We're ASTON VILLA.
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I think I might do the windows.
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I've been getting progressively nervy during the past week, but I'm feeling strangely becalmed now our big day is finally here. I sincerely hope the team turn up with the same passion, energy and belief that'll be coursing through the veins of every Villain today. If they do, we'll see cuddly little Fulham & their sycophantic mates in the London me-ja grizzling into their chai lattes. So at the opening blast of the referee's whistle: unleash Hell.
Strength & Honour.
UTV
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I think I might do the windows.
Windolene of bricks?
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Feels strange how quickly this has come around. Usually with finals etc there are weeks of build up...
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Please win Villa.
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Today has such a different feeling from any Semi final or Cup final. They're gonna have more than the ball than we are, I just hope we are positive, get in their faces, play to our strengths and our big players perform.
Have no regrets lads, do us proud, UTV.
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My sock and pants drawer needs reorganising.
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Just passing through Belgium on coach 33. Silly me that was 36 years ago.
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On train now. Absolutely packed and there are already Villa fans on here totally inebriated.
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I've blagged a lift! 4 of us, M40, approaching Warwick.
Disappointingly few scarves out of windows thus far.
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Kevin Gage on facebook -
One of my proudest football acheievements was playing every minute of every game in Villa’s last promotion season 1987-88...51 league & cup games in total & also playing for the legend that was Graham Taylor.
It’s time they did it again to be back up where they belong.👍
C’MON THE VILLA!
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I've blagged a lift! 4 of us, M40, approaching Warwick.
Disappointingly few scarves out of windows thus far.
You also get very few moonies and fans holding up porn mags these days.
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Lads I've got serious match day nerves and I'm not even at the airport yet!
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Anyone taken on the Moor Street queue yet? How long?
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On the ale already to calm the nerves. Never been this nervous before a game. Can't wait to get into the ground and release all the nervous energy with 90 minutes of shouting and singing. We're on our way.
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Silence cnuts like Danny Murphy, please Villa.
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Very nervous about this. Just get us back to where we belong. The longer we stay a Championship club, the harder it will be to get out of this.
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Been so nervous , had to fill my day up or I would go crazy . my palms are sweating now.
9 am - picked up a pallet of Tyskie from Bedworth
11 pm .. now just sold my car
12 pm - a driving job with a second job I do
1pm - got someone buying a synth off me
2 pm off to Leicester to pick up a pallet of wine and then coming back to pick up gin supplies
so I will get back home at 4 pm ... I am knackered as I woke up at 3 am and watched you tube Villa interviews and matches all night
but I know we will do this however brown my pants are.
COME ON VILLA .. see you later folks
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Relax. We've got this.
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Been so nervous , had to fill my day up or I would go crazy . my palms are sweating now.
off me
2 pm off to Leicester to pick up a pallet of wine and then coming back to pick up gin supplies
I bought ten half-litre bottles of German pilsners to keep me going but you are doing it in real style! UTV!
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Don't be so nervous people. Whilst we shouldn't be in this division, seeing our team at Wembley in front of nearly 90,000 people is what we watch football for and is something every Villa fan should aspire to and expect.
It's exciting!! I can't wait!!
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Been so nervous , had to fill my day up or I would go crazy . my palms are sweating now.
9 am - picked up a pallet of Tyskie from Bedworth
11 pm .. now just sold my car
12 pm - a driving job with a second job I do
1pm - got someone buying a synth off me
2 pm off to Leicester to pick up a pallet of wine and then coming back to pick up gin supplies
so I will get back home at 4 pm ... I am knackered as I woke up at 3 am and watched you tube Villa interviews and matches all night
but I know we will do this however brown my pants are.
COME ON VILLA .. see you later folks
Similar issues here. Woke at 3:30 couldn't sleep due to excitement and nervousness.
Foolishly went to an exercise class this morning. Got home considered getting some sleep. No chance. Watching cricket. Exhausted.
Christ knows what state I'll be in by 5pm.
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Relax. We've got this.
Hi,i'm in Leicester,babysitting one of my grandson's,at the moment i'm nervously awaiting the time to leave out,and hobble round to my brother in law's(free beer,and food),and hopefully enjoy the show.
Spent Wednesday in the LRI,a long story,and i'm still far from 100%,but will still be leaping around like a young un,and thinking about other Villan's the world over.
Come on you Villa boy's.
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I'm in the garage. Just doing an inventory of all the SCART cables, RCA connectors, mini jack adaptors, DVI to VGA connectors, VHS rewinders, and blank CD-r discs that I have in my emergency box.
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Waiting at Digbeth to board the coach: have the little scarf I wore at the 1994 League Cup final tied to my handbag for luck.
Another great film quote for auntiesledd for when the coach sets off:
"A-qa-baaa!!"
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Mrs ez has gone to Kent to visit her friend. She's stopped at services which she says is full of villa fans. I myself have been to tescos and bought beer, crisps and beef burgers. Biding my time now playing on xbox.
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I'm going to hoover the car.
I'm going to hoover next door's cat.
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I'm going to hoover the car.
I'm going to hoover next door's cat.
My neighbour has just hoovered his lawn.
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Good morning everyone. Just spilled my coffee. Ace
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Finally on the train having driven the family the three hours to the in-laws last night and the three hours back to Bath this morning.
Let's go.
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This is a day that in spite of any philosphical, spiritual, political etc differences we might have as fans of this magnificent football club we come together. We link arms as brothers and sisters.
While have seen great times, for many who have joined our ranks in recent years only disappointment and heartache. It’s been a long road back to this point. A hard road where we have fallen countless times. We have been embarrassed and humiliated. But we never gave up. We never just surrendered and threw our hands up in the air. We fought back and today is the day we announce again to the football world our return to the pinnacle of the English game and mark for all the world to see, on Rotterdam Day no less, the start of our path back to European dominance.
Stand tall Villa brothers and sisters and cheer on the greatest football team in the world to victory.
Up the Villa
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If Villa perform as well as JPA and BE on this thread (caps lock FTW!) we've nothing to worry about.
For my part, picked my brother up from King's Cross this morning. He's getting some kip having travelled all night. His first game since a 2-1 win over the Baggies Jan '09, he informed me earlier. Don't blame him giving our "lost decade" a wide berth.
The Northern line of the tube on the High Barnet branch is out of action for the first time since I moved to North London so having to rely on buses quite a lot this weekend meaning an earlier trip to Wembley than planned once this fella's siesta is over.
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Can't make the game as I have to be at a school sports day in Barcelona. But will be home in time to watch. Woke up very early and like others spent a few hours surfing Villa news and videos. Others may have different views but I'm far more hyped up about this game than for example the FA Cup Final.
It's a difficult game to call but I think our experience and the supporters will get Villa over the line. JT to score!
Come on you Villa Boys!!!!!!
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I’m mightily relieved that I decided against surprising my son with tickets for the match as he spent most of yesterday and this morning throwing up. Not nerves but there is no way we could have gone today, as I feel like I saved about £200.00 I bought a nice coat this morning.
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Annoyed this week as I realised when tickets went on sale last week that my booking history of two games from early this season would have got me a ticket. Unfortunately the wife wasn't too happy at my suggestion of spending 1000 dollars on the airfare from Perth Western Australia. I made it to the FA Cup final in 2015 with her blessing so was pushing my luck.
Midnight kick off here, waiting for my son to join me in front of the TV and will be well oiled by the time he gets here at this rate.
Nervous as can be and wish it was all over.
I have a good feeling about the outcome though.
2-0 to us.
Come on you lions!
UTV
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Annoyed this week as I realised when tickets went on sale last week that my booking history of two games from early this season would have got me a ticket. Unfortunately the wife wasn't too happy at my suggestion of spending 1000 dollars on the airfare from Perth Western Australia. I made it to the FA Cup final in 2015 with her blessing so was pushing my luck.
Midnight kick off here, waiting for my son to join me in front of the TV and will be well oiled by the time he gets here at this rate.
Nervous as can be and wish it was all over.
I have a good feeling about the outcome though.
2-0 to us.
Come on you lions!
UTV
Am in a similar boat mate, though just couldn't get time off work. 1am kick off here in Tokyo. I'm slowly drinking myself into a calm, non-nervous mess.
Come on you Villa boys!
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On a train full of Villa fans from Kettering, the sun is shining and the day will be ours!
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On a train full of Villa fans from Kettering, the sun is shining and the day will be ours!
Fuck yes!
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Just arriving at Wembley. Have a great day everyone
UTV
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I've blagged a lift! 4 of us, M40, approaching Warwick.
Disappointingly few scarves out of windows thus far.
You also get very few moonies and fans holding up porn mags these days.
And literally no fulham fans. Part-time yogurt-knitting wankers.
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Been dragged into shitty Las Iguanas drinking shitty beer.
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I've blagged a lift! 4 of us, M40, approaching Warwick.
Disappointingly few scarves out of windows thus far.
You also get very few moonies and fans holding up porn mags these days.
And literally no fulham fans. Part-time yogurt-knitting wankers.
Our Marylebone pub is full of them.
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I am going to rake the gravel on our drive, level it off, then hose it (with the nozzle on 'fine spray').
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Flew in from Lisbon to Heathrow this morning. Got here two hours ago. I'm still fucking here because my colleague (whose wife is meeting us with the tickets) is American and the non EU border queue is TWO HOURS and counting.
Anyone who thinks Brexit is practical is nuts.
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Fantastic picture of three generations of us all shirted up about to cross That London but I don't know how to post pictures. Very, very nervous.
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Wembley is ours
Wembley is ours
We’re Aston Villa and Wembley is ours!!!
There you go. That’s song song for today. Pass it on. I expect you all to be singing it at 4.55. Or else.
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Flew in from Lisbon to Heathrow this morning. Got here two hours ago. I'm still fucking here because my colleague (whose wife is meeting us with the tickets) is American and the non EU border queue is TWO HOURS and counting.
Anyone who thinks Brexit is practical is nuts.
It's utter madness isn't it. It's the same every time my wife and I fly back from Japan. I'm through in under 2 minutes, whilst she has to queue for hours. What a rubbish system.
Compare that to when we flew to Rome. The Italians on passport control just let her go through with me, greeted her in Japanese, and there we were; through in a few minutes.
Anyway, kick off is under 2 and a half hours away. I hope your colleague gets through soon!
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We’re in club Wembley soaking up the atmosphere- couldn’t get normal tickets and missed the last 2 finals so have treated ourselves - up the Villa!
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Been dragged into shitty Las Iguanas drinking shitty beer.
I’m sat on the floor outside Handmade Burger :)
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I imagine a couple of pints and the sunshine are contributory factors but I really feel like we’ve got this. Leaving pub for ground imminently and starting to be very excited.
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Hey Axl, My daughter was born in Oz so travelled on Aussie passport when travelling with me but came through EU and UK passport control with me at Heathrow when coming to UK.
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These sorts of days are supposed to be fun, aren't they?
So why are my guts looping the fecking loop?
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Fulham a bit quiet on these trains coming. Villa loud as you like.
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Wish I was there today.
Hoping Fulham will freeze when they experience the Villa wall of sound when they come out onto the pitch.
Come on you Villa boys.
UTV
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I could have come over but in the end decided against it due to travel. I know I will massively regret it if we win. But in the end we’ll be in the PL again so that will provide ample compensation. Come on Villa. Make us proud and happy.
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Like you TV, I was tempted but we can take solace in the fact that the next time we fly over we will be watching the Villa do Chelsea or Citeh, 3-0. ;-)
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Today has such a different feeling from any Semi final or Cup final. They're gonna have more than the ball than we are, I just hope we are positive, get in their faces, play to our strengths and our big players perform.
Have no regrets lads, do us proud, UTV.
This, all day long.
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Hey Axl, My daughter was born in Oz so travelled on Aussie passport when travelling with me but came through EU and UK passport control with me at Heathrow when coming to UK.
Good stuff mate. We will be dancing around our respective countries when we win later!
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First time on the board
Couldnt get over for the match,
WIll watch it on tv if I can bear it!
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Like you TV, I was tempted but we can take solace in the fact that the next time we fly over we will be watching the Villa do Chelsea or Citeh, 3-0. ;-)
Yes I very much hope so BE. I'll be over for a game on August 18th and not only will I hope to meet with a few H&V brothers and sisters but importantly as a PL club.
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First time on the board
Couldnt get over for the match,
WIll watch it on tv if I can bear it!
Benvinguts! Visca Catalunya ! ;-)
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I presume that is catalan? Dont speak it, but thanks for the welcome
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Yes. Welcome in Catalan. ;-) UTV!
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just came out to say hello, but figure you've already moved on.
Anyone else staying at the Wembley international hotel?
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