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Title: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on May 13, 2018, 06:48:07 PM
Its looking like Elmo is out.

I'd bring Bree in for his pace and height and ensure Hutton swaps as he did depending on where Traore is playing.

I expect Bamford to start for them.

I'd bring Thor in for Jedi, who looked knackered at the end and I would seriously consider Onomah for Hourihane.

Important we get off to a brisk start and with the ground bouncing I think we will have a lot of momentum.

Don't expect Pulis to change it up system wise. He will still.come with two holding players and the reality is, they'll have 3 again in Clayton, Howson and Besic. The pedestrian Downing will likely start again too.

Jack as ever is the key for us.

I fancy us strongly for this. 2-0 and 3-0 overall.

I think we will see an unchanged side bar Thor for Elmo.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VinnieChase84 on May 13, 2018, 06:56:23 PM
I’m going for a nervous 1-0 win. Wish/hope we can get a very early goal and almost put the tie to bed. UTV
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on May 13, 2018, 06:58:30 PM
Poll added. Again!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on May 13, 2018, 06:59:51 PM
Where’s the poll?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 13, 2018, 07:02:02 PM
Amateur thread starters!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 13, 2018, 07:02:25 PM
1-1
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on May 13, 2018, 07:02:34 PM
At the top of the page. I think I've covered all possibilities.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on May 13, 2018, 07:04:17 PM
2-0.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 13, 2018, 07:04:50 PM
Where is the "Match abandoned due to alien invasion" option? You haven't covered all possibilities at all!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: four fornicholl on May 13, 2018, 07:08:54 PM
Where is the "Match abandoned due to alien invasion" option? You haven't covered all possibilities at all!
Or match abandoned due to pyro  ;)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: footyskillz on May 13, 2018, 07:15:41 PM
Yellow cards for snoddy and Hourihane in first leg if they get another on Tuesday i understand they still wouldn't  will miss the final.

In fact have to reach 15 yellow cards for a ban now and snoddy is most booked with 10. Hourihane next with 9.

If any villa (or boro) player do get a red though then they will automatically miss the final (if not more)

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on May 13, 2018, 07:16:53 PM
Where is the "Match abandoned due to alien invasion" option? You haven't covered all possibilities at all!

We're playing the smog monsters, not Sandwell or SHA.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: themossman on May 13, 2018, 07:22:41 PM
Yellow cards for snoddy and Hourihane in first leg if they get another on Tuesday i understand they still wouldn't  will miss the final.

In fact have to reach 15 yellow cards for a ban now and snoddy is most booked with 10. Hourihane next with 9.

If any villa (or boro) player do get a red though then they will automatically miss the final (if not more)

Excellent, so snodgrass can pick up another 4 yellows on Tuesday and still be OK for the final.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: andyh on May 13, 2018, 07:23:25 PM
Home win. 2-0 on the night
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 13, 2018, 07:25:47 PM
Or home record recently is as bad as theirs is against us, we'v only won something like 2 of the last 11 at VP.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: IAmTheOneIanOlney on May 13, 2018, 07:28:22 PM
I'm slightly worried that Grealish will be deliberately put out of commission early on.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave on May 13, 2018, 07:30:02 PM
1-1 and through.

85 minute Grealish equaliser for us.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Damo70 on May 13, 2018, 07:58:02 PM
Where is the "Match abandoned due to alien invasion" option? You haven't covered all possibilities at all!
Or match abandoned due to pyro  ;)

Only we could have a match abandoned because of an incident involving a fictional Belgian detective.

1-0 again to Villa.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on May 13, 2018, 07:59:59 PM
2-0 win.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: four fornicholl on May 13, 2018, 08:03:40 PM
I'm slightly worried that Grealish will be deliberately put out of commission early on.
They tried that yesterday, he's turned into a tough cookie now. Super Jack.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Steve67 on May 13, 2018, 08:13:07 PM
Professional again, don't take anything for granted here.  It's not a good idea to go into the game thinking we've only got to draw.  Go for their throats from the start.  I'm too chicken to predict this, like I said before the game on Saturday; do not make a return to Fuck Sake Villa!

Ads, I disagree, keep Jedinak in the side.  He's good for us in both boxes. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: four fornicholl on May 13, 2018, 08:16:50 PM
We're the famous Aston Villa and we're going to Wemberlee.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: QuintonVilla on May 13, 2018, 08:33:59 PM
2-0 (3-0)
We're on our way
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: footyskillz on May 13, 2018, 08:53:27 PM
Some stats for the record :

Aston Villa 23 matches at home in 9 of those we have   6 times  scored goals in first 15 mins and 5 times we've conceded goals within 15 minutes.    

That's the 2nd joint highest at home for goals scored or conceded in 15 mins.

Boro 23 matches away have in 9 times conceded 6 goals within 15 mins and scored 5 times.

In 70 % home matches villa score first.16 in 23 matches.
Boro scored first 8 times in 23 away matches 35%

13/23 home matches for villa both teams have scored

15/23 away matches boro both teams have scored.
Joint highest in both teams scoring along with play off hopefuls Fulham and relegated Barnsley


Away from home boro concede far more goals in first half.
They have only scored 11 times in first half matches away from home.

Boro score more frequently second half average a goal a game away in this 2nd period.

Only 4 times in 23 have boro away not scored a goal.

Villa average goal a game at home after 45 minutes. And Concede more 1st half.

In 17 out of 23 matches boro aren't winning their away games.
And only in 3 matches out of 23 are at 0-0 at half time.

Villa have only 6 matches in 23 being 0-0. At half time

Villa scored most headers in league 18.

Boro have scored 11 goals by set piece away from home. Most in league

So predictions based on this.

villa score first

A goal or goals  scored in first 15 mins

Unlikely to be 0-0 score line at half time so 1+goal before half time 

A high chance villa leading or drawing at half time.


Boro will score a goal second half expected goal average

Villa will score second half expected goals average

Both teams will score in match

Villa will score a headed goal. Most in league this season

boro score set piece situation

91% home matches have not been lost. 61% win 30%draw. = Villa going through

villa win both teams score

Half time 1-0 1-1 2-0

Full Time
2-1
3-1
3 - 2

However I could see a I take a 2-2 with boro coming on strong second half but too little to late for them. Similar to their fight back against Ipswich.

I'd like a 4-1 or 4-2 set us up for final. The crowd could get us going.
That said the magnitude of the match I think there'll be goals and villa will win to take a 3-1 or 3-2

Sensible choice is 2-1 a popular result at home for us this season however adding in extra goals due to the all or nothing potential for the opposition.

Utv.

I'm confident of us going to final as have a strong record of not conceding in last 15 minutes. By that point leading the tie and having scored a goal or 2 I don't have it that boro can upset us by more than a consolation /fake hope.

We re undefeated in 14 of the 15 matches at home.

Let's hope  a goal laden 1st half then so we are always leading the tie further and  will see us enjoying the night!!



UTV

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: four fornicholl on May 13, 2018, 08:55:39 PM

Some stats for the record :

Aston Villa 23 matches at home in 9 of those we have   6 times  scored goals in first 15 mins and 5 times we've conceded goals within 15 minutes.    

That's the 2nd joint highest at home for goals scored or conceded in 15 mins.

Boro 23 matches away have in 9 times conceded 6 goals within 15 mins and scored 5 times.

In 70 % home matches villa score first.16 in 23 matches.
Boro scored first 8 times in 23 away matches 35%

13/23 home matches for villa both teams have scored

15/23 away matches boro both teams have scored.
Joint highest in both teams scoring along with play off hopefuls Fulham and relegated Barnsley


Away from home boro concede far more goals in first half.
They have only scored 11 times in first half matches away from home.

Boro score more frequently second half average a goal a game away in this 2nd period.

Only 4 times in 23 have boro away not scored a goal.

Villa average goal a game at home after 45 minutes. And Concede more 1st half.

In 17 out of 23 matches boro aren't winning their away games.
And only in 3 matches out of 23 are at 0-0 at half time.

Villa have only 6 matches in 23 being 0-0. At half time

Villa scored most headers in league 18.

Boro have scored 11 goals by set piece away from home. Most in league

So predictions based on this.

villa score first

A goal or goals  scored in first 15 mins

Unlikely to be 0-0 score line at half time so 1+goal before half time 

A high chance villa leading or drawing at half time.


Boro will score a goal second half expected goal average

Villa will score second half expected goals average

Both teams will score in match

Villa will score a headed goal. Most in league this season

boro score set piece situation

91% home matches have not been lost. 61% win 30%draw. = Villa going through

villa win both teams score

Half time 1-0 2-0

Full Time
2-1
3-1
3 - 2

However I could see a I take a 2-2 with boro coming on strong second half but too little to late for them. Similar to their fight back against Ipswich.

I'd like a 4-1 or 4-2 set us up for final. The crowd could get us going.
That said the magnitude of the match I think there'll be goals and villa will win to take a 3-1 or 3-2

Sensible choice is 2-1 a popular result at home for us this season however adding in extra goals due to the all or nothing potential for the opposition.

Utv.

I'm confident of us going to final as have a strong record of not conceding in last 15 minutes. By that point leading the tie and having scored a goal or 2 I don't have it that boro can upset us by more than a consolation /fake hope.

We re undefeated in 14 of the 15 matches at home.

Let's hope  a goal laden 1st half then so we are always leading the tie further and  will see us enjoying the night!!



UTV
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Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on May 13, 2018, 09:09:25 PM
I think this is a long way from over. Got a nagging doubt they’ll score first. But could see us equalise to go through

Bjarnason full back

Whelan for Jedinak

Onomah for hourihane

Green on the bench
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: DB on May 13, 2018, 09:16:59 PM
Play like we did vs Wolves and we’ll walk it. Just have to go for it and not play for the draw.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: tomd2103 on May 13, 2018, 09:18:13 PM
I think this is a long way from over. Got a nagging doubt they’ll score first. But could see us equalise to go through

Bjarnason full back

Whelan for Jedinak

Onomah for hourihane

Green on the bench

I think Jedinak will play if he is in good enough shape to simply because of his aerial presence and their threat of set pieces.  Wouldn't be surprised to see Whelan start ahead of him in the final should we get there though as he offers a bit more on the ball. 

The full-back one is tough one as their wingers are their biggest threat. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on May 13, 2018, 09:28:53 PM
Amateur thread starters!

Can’t remember if they were a Punk or Ska band
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Des Little on May 13, 2018, 10:10:36 PM
Home win. Insert score here.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: waynejames on May 14, 2018, 07:26:20 AM
Keep Jack away from the ball during the intensity of the first 5 or 10 mins which is were boro will gladly try and kick him.....
Then after that let the lad loose and he will run riot.
2 nil villa.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villabear on May 14, 2018, 08:47:14 AM
I cannot remember the last time I was so worried and excited the day before a game.

A quick goal to settle my nerves and then put it to bed please Villa. 🙏
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: darren woolley on May 14, 2018, 08:59:11 AM
I'm going for another 1-0 Villa win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: mr underhill on May 14, 2018, 09:04:11 AM
Elmo aside, we can't field the same side - collectively it's too old for two games in three days. The OPR debacle tells us so. Mix it up a bit Steve and steer us through.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: lovejoy on May 14, 2018, 09:56:04 AM
This game is all about attituide. If we think we're already at Wembley then we will get a QPR-esque shock. If they are focussed and play like they did against Wolves we go through.  There's also a fair break until the final so resting players should be an issue.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JD on May 14, 2018, 10:14:37 AM
Same team, with Bree in for Elmo. 4-1 win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Axl Rose on May 14, 2018, 10:26:31 AM
2-1 us. Fans to roar us through. I'll be roaring from my Tokyo living room from 3:45am. Can't wait.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Walmley_Villa on May 14, 2018, 10:27:17 AM
I worry Bruce would play the same side if all fit. With Elmo out I would prefer Bree but think he will defer to experience and Thor. Jedi will be knackered but I expect Bruce to to start him. Would like Onomah in and Hourihane out if I'm honest as he has more pace.

First goal as ever is key.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on May 14, 2018, 10:29:36 AM
0-0. But a good one, the sort where boro are lucky to get nil. Tiny to announce his retirement on the back of it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: DB on May 14, 2018, 10:29:54 AM
Just got a message via the app, to say it is sold out. Can’t wait but at same time...ooer.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Eckybloke on May 14, 2018, 11:04:39 AM
Bricking it a little bit.

I'd have Jedi on the bench and bring him on for an aerial assault (I'm assuming from them :D ) if things are getting a bit tense.

I've gone for a Villa win in 90 minutes.  Can't bring myself to imagine anything else.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on May 14, 2018, 11:24:13 AM
Onomah for Hourihane would give us an injection of pace and physical presence.

I think part of the drop off with QPR was going from a nigh on full and bouncing Villa Park, hammering a promotion rival, to a mid-week game against no mark opposition in front of a 2nd round league cup atmosphere. It was flat, so the drop off was as much psychological as it was physical.

I think the bulk of the squad would be ok, but that extra pace and presence in midfield would be a lift.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on May 14, 2018, 11:34:32 AM
Some stats for the record :


Boro 23 matches away have in 9 times conceded 6 goals within 15 mins

That must be a record. Let’s hope tomorrow is the tenth time they concede 6 goals in the first 15 minutes. I’ll relax then.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on May 14, 2018, 11:51:09 AM
I'm very nervous. I feel like the last two years have been a hazy, alcohol-fuelled dream where the results didn't really matter. Now it all seems very tense and grown up. Scared.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: mr underhill on May 14, 2018, 11:55:35 AM
spot on
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: paul_e on May 14, 2018, 12:17:21 PM
I worry Bruce would play the same side if all fit. With Elmo out I would prefer Bree but think he will defer to experience and Thor. Jedi will be knackered but I expect Bruce to to start him. Would like Onomah in and Hourihane out if I'm honest as he has more pace.

First goal as ever is key.

Me too, he has form for selecting players like Jedi for sat-tue games and him looking fucked because of it.

I'd bring in Bree, Whelan and Onomah for Elmo, Jedi and Hourihane and I'd seriously think about starting Kodjia and shifting Grabban out left with Adomah dropping out as a more tactical change.

I suspect they're going to start with Fabio so I'd like us to have a threat in behind him so he's less comfortable coming so far forward. I'd try to let Grabban stay up field as much as possible (with Onomah drifting across to help Hutton out if he's getting doubled up on) to make the most of that as well, but I doubt Bruce would be willing to do that.  It's slightly more counter-attack but given they're chasing a goal I think it's worth a look, if not from the start then definitely later on if they are getting joy with him coming forward.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: David_Nab on May 14, 2018, 12:17:25 PM
Onomah for Hourihane would give us an injection of pace and physical presence.

I think part of the drop off with QPR was going from a nigh on full and bouncing Villa Park, hammering a promotion rival, to a mid-week game against no mark opposition in front of a 2nd round league cup atmosphere. It was flat, so the drop off was as much psychological as it was physical.

I think the bulk of the squad would be ok, but that extra pace and presence in midfield would be a lift.



I agree we need something else in midfield as the 2nd half Hourinae was invisible.So its ether Thor or Onomah coming in for him. Jed is a tough one as he played very well but I'm not sure he has the legs to go again so quickly.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on May 14, 2018, 12:58:15 PM
I'd personally try and keep as close to the same team as possible. I think we need to leave Jedinak in there just for his aerial presence because we know where Pulis' teams are a threat from. The only unforced change I'd consider making is Birkir for Hourihane
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on May 14, 2018, 12:59:17 PM
There is going to be a turnaround in the semi final second leg matches. I don’t think both teams in lead after the first leg will go through. Just need to make sure it’s not us who get mugged.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: footyskillz on May 14, 2018, 01:03:32 PM
Boro rarely score first away from home and do more scoring second half.

I think out of all the stats 91% of villa matches and home have either been a win 61% or a draw 30%

Are things going to change so dramatically in one 90 mins.

I like to think not.


Some stats for the record :


Boro 23 matches away have in 9 times conceded 6 goals within 15 mins

That must be a record. Let’s hope tomorrow is the tenth time they concede 6 goals in the first 15 minutes. I’ll relax then.

Ha OK that would be great but I meant have conceded 6 times in first 15 minutes of matches on the road. (football field)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: footyskillz on May 14, 2018, 01:06:13 PM
I'd personally try and keep as close to the same team as possible. I think we need to leave Jedinak in there just for his aerial presence because we know where Pulis' teams are a threat from. The only unforced change I'd consider making is Birkir for Hourihane

100 % with this and Bree to fill one of the full back roles.

Lest we forget their imposing centre half Ayla is missing so that's a plus and boost as they will shuffle defence.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: MalcolmP on May 14, 2018, 01:10:15 PM
Onomah for Hourihane would give us an injection of pace and physical presence.
And laziness - IMHO Hourihane put in more effort in 2nd half on Saturday than Onomah has put in all season. (Even though he was restricted in tackling due to ridiculous early yellow, but still shadowed and closed down players) And Hourihane is more likely to snatch a goal. We need Hourihane's work ethic which so often goes unnoticed.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: in exile on May 14, 2018, 01:13:08 PM
I think we are going to win...so why am I so nervous?

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: wittonwarrior on May 14, 2018, 01:14:29 PM
Only we can mess this up
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: chrisw1 on May 14, 2018, 01:24:18 PM
I'd definitely play Jedi if he is feeling ok.  I would hope the atmosphere and enormity of the game would help carry him through.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on May 14, 2018, 01:28:19 PM
One thing we have a habit of doing is making hard work of it. Whilst I'd take going through all day long by any means necessary, I'd just love tomorrow to be as comfortable as possible.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on May 14, 2018, 01:59:53 PM
Instinctively I would be pessimistic but lets look at the facts.

We are 1-0 up and that will cause a huge headache for Tiny penis - does he come out and play to get an equaliser or does he hold fire?  He does not have a great record of having to chase a game so 100% would rather be in our shoes than theirs. If they come at us we will pick them off with ease as the 4 centre backs he has for a back line are quite static if exposed. I would be more worried if we were 0-1 down and had to break them down as this is Penis's format of building a brick wall of defence and killing the game with time wasting tactics.

If Ayala is out then he will move the awful Shotten to CH which will negate his horrendous long throw tactics as he will not leave the centre to launch them. He is also f*cking shit so we need Grabben and Jack running at the tosser.

Adama, 1 cross aside, did what he always did and that was flatter to deceive. If this kid had come through Wigan's academy instead of Barcelona he would not have got this far. I genuinely thought the only player that worried us was Besic (sp) as he was popping up all over the place.

Jack - stop whining when they foul you - get up, smile and then demand the ball again. A prat like Mike Dean will probably book you for complaining so just let your feet do the talking.

Bree in a LB and swaps when Adama goes walkabout - other than that same side - they could not get through so why should they get through this time?

And for all those that say they are nervous - this is exactly the reason we go to games. VP under lights, full house and a deafening wall of noise.

Bring it on UTV
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: QuintonVilla on May 14, 2018, 02:03:09 PM
There is going to be a turnaround in the semi final second leg matches. I don’t think both teams in lead after the first leg will go through. Just need to make sure it’s not us who get mugged.
Fulham will turn it round tonight and go through.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on May 14, 2018, 02:05:46 PM
There is going to be a turnaround in the semi final second leg matches. I don’t think both teams in lead after the first leg will go through. Just need to make sure it’s not us who get mugged.
Fulham will turn it round tonight and go through.

Have you seen the quote in the paper from one of their players "if Derby play like they did on Friday we will get the result, all they did was defend blah blah"
If I was their Manager I would drop him as that could easily be the kiss of death
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: DennisHodgetts on May 14, 2018, 02:18:43 PM
I really believe we will do it tomorrow, but it will be tight, yet why have I got that feeling from exam results day when you are waiting to go in and open the envelope? I suppose it makes life exciting....UTV
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TaxDodger on May 14, 2018, 03:55:31 PM
I may sound like, and in fact be, a miserable git, but if we win I really hope we don't run on the pitch. The concept of a pitch invasion after the Play Off Semis, when you haven't actually got promoted yet has always confused me.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Mister E on May 14, 2018, 04:13:08 PM
I'd definitely play Jedi if he is feeling ok.  I would hope the atmosphere and enormity of the game would help carry him through.
Yep. With Bamford likely to start for them, he'd be an obvious starter. By all means, get Whelan on as a replacement on 55-60 minutes ...
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on May 14, 2018, 04:19:31 PM
Can't decide whether or not we should bring on Bunn when it goes to a penalty shoot out.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on May 14, 2018, 04:21:59 PM


Daren't predict the result, and daren't get carried away talking like the job is already done like some either.

It's going to be a long night tomorrow with some swings and ulcer inducing moments i'm sure.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: tomd2103 on May 14, 2018, 04:26:08 PM
I may sound like, and in fact be, a miserable git, but if we win I really hope we don't run on the pitch. The concept of a pitch invasion after the Play Off Semis, when you haven't actually got promoted yet has always confused me.

See you on there at 9.35 tomorrow night?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on May 14, 2018, 04:31:31 PM
I may sound like, and in fact be, a miserable git, but if we win I really hope we don't run on the pitch. The concept of a pitch invasion after the Play Off Semis, when you haven't actually got promoted yet has always confused me.

Happened after the Bradford game in 1988. To be honest, I hope it happens again tomorrow if we win. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: footyskillz on May 14, 2018, 04:32:56 PM
I really believe we will do it tomorrow, but it will be tight, yet why have I got that feeling from exam results day when you are waiting to go in and open the envelope? I suppose it makes life exciting....UTV

I agree. Any reason on your beliefs? though I  kinda understand that feeling for the excitement and anticipation you're having.

The majority of the villa players are experienced and can handle such feelings.

Though Bree could be a concern on dealing with occasion he will be fully supported by the villa faithful.

For me the experience tells and is a major reason will be successful.

Similarly I feel same with Derby qualifying tonight. An experienced squad can work wonders
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Bully2345 on May 14, 2018, 04:36:03 PM
I may sound like, and in fact be, a miserable git, but if we win I really hope we don't run on the pitch. The concept of a pitch invasion after the Play Off Semis, when you haven't actually got promoted yet has always confused me.

Absolutely agree. It kills any opportunity for the players to celebrate as a team with the fans as well as being completely premature
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on May 14, 2018, 04:54:30 PM
Boro rarely score first away from home and do more scoring second half.

I think out of all the stats 91% of villa matches and home have either been a win 61% or a draw 30%

Are things going to change so dramatically in one 90 mins.

I like to think not.


Some stats for the record :


Boro 23 matches away have in 9 times conceded 6 goals within 15 mins

That must be a record. Let’s hope tomorrow is the tenth time they concede 6 goals in the first 15 minutes. I’ll relax then.

Ha OK that would be great but I meant have conceded 6 times in first 15 minutes of matches on the road. (football field)

Nice one footy.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on May 14, 2018, 05:05:13 PM
4 0 villa

we will score first , Boro will go FFS and then we will turn it on like the dingles performance
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on May 14, 2018, 05:10:25 PM
Does anyone know whether the Gordon Gowans bar / family fun zone is open before tomorrow’s game?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: QuintonVilla on May 14, 2018, 05:36:29 PM
I may sound like, and in fact be, a miserable git, but if we win I really hope we don't run on the pitch. The concept of a pitch invasion after the Play Off Semis, when you haven't actually got promoted yet has always confused me.
It would be tinpot. We're Villa, not Small Heath.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on May 14, 2018, 05:37:35 PM
Can't decide whether or not we should bring on Bunn when it goes to a penalty shoot out.

Which it won't.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: walsall villain on May 14, 2018, 05:44:32 PM
Can't decide whether or not we should bring on Bunn when it goes to a penalty shoot out.
Can’t advise, never seen him take one
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on May 14, 2018, 06:00:55 PM
Can't decide whether or not we should bring on Bunn when it goes to a penalty shoot out.

Which it won't.

Quite but you know we have this habit of doing things the difficult way.

I hope it goes as JP predicts above. We bloody deserve it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on May 14, 2018, 06:05:42 PM
Can't decide whether or not we should bring on Bunn when it goes to a penalty shoot out.

Which it won't.

Quite but you know we have this habit of doing things the difficult way.

I hope it goes as JP predicts above. We bloody deserve it.

3-0 or 3-1, I may even put several English pounds on it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: cheltenhamlion on May 14, 2018, 06:26:39 PM
Terry will score tomorrow night. Get the first and we will piss it. They will try to bore us to death in the first half and hope to nick one from a set piece.

Is it OK if I do a one man pitch invasion to knock the cap off Tiny Penis?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: CT on May 14, 2018, 06:46:35 PM
Terry will score tomorrow night. Get the first and we will piss it. They will try to bore us to death in the first half and hope to nick one from a set piece.

Is it OK if I do a one man pitch invasion to knock the cap off Tiny Penis?

If you do it naked I'll give £50 to Acorns.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on May 14, 2018, 06:49:46 PM
If he does it clothed, I'll give £60.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on May 14, 2018, 07:28:52 PM
Does anyone know whether the Gordon Gowans bar / family fun zone is open before tomorrow’s game?

Gordan Cowans bar? Where does one find such an oasis?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on May 14, 2018, 07:49:11 PM
Does anyone know whether the Gordon Gowans bar / family fun zone is open before tomorrow’s game?

Gordan Cowans bar? Where does one find such an oasis?

Every drink is kicked left footed across the bar gently dropping into the recipients hands, not a drop spilled.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: spangley1812 on May 14, 2018, 07:52:41 PM
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Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: London Villan on May 14, 2018, 08:48:06 PM
Sounds like a nightmare waiting to happen...
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: four fornicholl on May 14, 2018, 08:50:23 PM
Sounds like a nightmare waiting to happen...
Delayed kick off at worst, keep cool.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 14, 2018, 08:52:34 PM
It will be like that LC game against Liverpool.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on May 14, 2018, 08:53:32 PM
I think we are going to win...so why am I so nervous?



Because there's still another game after this one where the pressure to win will be 10 times what it has been over last few days.

Likely we will face a better opponent than Boro aswell.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on May 14, 2018, 08:54:35 PM
It will be like that LC game against Liverpool.

With a different result hopefully PWS.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: four fornicholl on May 14, 2018, 09:03:32 PM
It will be like that LC game against Liverpool.

With a different result hopefully PWS.
That was gone 9, they won't let that happen again, what actually happened, I can't remember, only didn't get home until about 3 in the morning?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 14, 2018, 09:05:39 PM
It will be like that LC game against Liverpool.

With a different result hopefully PWS.
That was gone 9, they won't let that happen again, what actually happened, I can't remember, only didn't get home until about 3 in the morning?

IIRC Loads turned up on the night to buy tickets, a LOT more than the club was expecting so it took forever for them to buy tickets before the game as we didn't have the ticket office staff.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on May 14, 2018, 09:17:11 PM
It was a week before xmas which added to the congestion.

Orignially kick off was at 7.45, then put back to 8, then nothing was said for about half an hour and eventually think the kick off was 9.15 or something or ridiculous.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 14, 2018, 09:22:29 PM
It was purely a ticket office issue iirc. I do remember after what felt like hours of no one knowing what was going on Ellis spoke on the tannoy and got pelters. And also the tannoy announcement near the end of the game letting Liverpool fans know if it went to extra time there were no extra trains back to Wales Liverpool so basically leave at FT of find another way home. Bastards made it irrelevant.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on May 14, 2018, 09:25:47 PM
I always though it went to extra time but was corrected in the games you don't mind losing thread, Murphy scored in 90th minute.

Was a great game after the long wait anyway.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on May 14, 2018, 09:31:34 PM
It will be like that LC game against Liverpool.

With a different result hopefully PWS.
That was gone 9, they won't let that happen again, what actually happened, I can't remember, only didn't get home until about 3 in the morning?

IIRC Loads turned up on the night to buy tickets, a LOT more than the club was expecting so it took forever for them to buy tickets before the game as we didn't have the ticket office staff.

According to sources, it was more a case that tickets got delayed in the Christmas post so people turned up for replacements and traffic was particularly heavy that night. Doug went on TV to say the game wasn't going to be put back only to be told by the reporter that an announcement had already been made. The odd thing was that I was standing outside for ages and after 8pm hardly anyone went in. They could easily have kicked off at about 8.15. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: russon on May 14, 2018, 09:51:19 PM
Its looking like Elmo is out.

I'd bring Bree in for his pace and height and ensure Hutton swaps as he did depending on where Traore is playing.

I expect Bamford to start for them.

I'd bring Thor in for Jedi, who looked knackered at the end and I would seriously consider Onomah for Hourihane.

Important we get off to a brisk start and with the ground bouncing I think we will have a lot of momentum.

Don't expect Pulis to change it up system wise. He will still.come with two holding players and the reality is, they'll have 3 again in Clayton, Howson and Besic. The pedestrian Downing will likely start again too.

Jack as ever is the key for us.

I fancy us strongly for this. 2-0 and 3-0 overall.

I think we will see an unchanged side bar Thor for Elmo.


Exhausted just reading that! Such a furious brain dump suggests to me you’re well up for it my friend.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Edge on May 14, 2018, 10:11:40 PM
Listening to the post match commentators on sky there's no point us or Boro turning up for the final. Fulham looked very good in attack but they are by no means unbeatable.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on May 14, 2018, 10:20:24 PM

According to sources, it was more a case that tickets got delayed in the Christmas post so people turned up for replacements and traffic was particularly heavy that night. Doug went on TV to say the game wasn't going to be put back only to be told by the reporter that an announcement had already been made. The odd thing was that I was standing outside for ages and after 8pm hardly anyone went in. They could easily have kicked off at about 8.15. 

I remember that as was watching it in a pub surrounded by dozens of Scousers in Wigan.  Doug appeared, was asked how long the delay was going to be, said something like "5 minutes", to which the reporter then said "but doesn't the referee need at least 15 minutes notice" to which  Doug nodded and said "yes".  Silly old sod.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Confusious says on May 14, 2018, 10:31:30 PM
As I remember that night, it was a cold night & was not organised by the club that well as we had decided that it would not be possible to post the tickets out because of the Xmas post, but a spokes man for the post office came out and said they could have done something had they been asked.
The longer it went on the colder it got, I felt really sorry for the kids in the ground of which I saw quite a few dads leaving early with them
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Meanwood Villa on May 14, 2018, 10:39:18 PM
I was one of the crowd waiting for tickets. Don't think I got them much before 9. There were kids asleep in front of me, think the Dad took them home at half time. One of those where their last minute winner was a bit of relief as not sure when I'd have got home otherwise.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on May 14, 2018, 10:43:35 PM
Does anyone know whether the Gordon Gowans bar / family fun zone is open before tomorrow’s game?

Gordan Cowans bar? Where does one find such an oasis?

In the academy building 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: wolfman999 on May 14, 2018, 10:48:58 PM
Listening to the post match commentators on sky there's no point us or Boro turning up for the final. Fulham looked very good in attack but they are by no means unbeatable.

I heard that too. If they're such an outstanding team, how come they're in the playoffs with the rest of us trash?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: themossman on May 14, 2018, 10:52:57 PM
Well quite. Also, they have had some terrible results this season when the pressure’s been on, and against bilge opposition. So I’m not having it that they're suddenly Barcelona because they scraped past a shit Derby side over 2 legs. Fuck ‘em.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on May 14, 2018, 10:57:06 PM
It was a week before xmas which added to the congestion.

Orignially kick off was at 7.45, then put back to 8, then nothing was said for about half an hour and eventually think the kick off was 9.15 or something or ridiculous.

I seem to recall that I had gone for my Christmas lunch at about 12, never bothered going back to the office and was absolutely smashed when I arrived at Villa Park just in time for the scheduled start. By the time it actually kicked off, I had sobered up.

I also remember being sat behind a porn star called Omar, who we all recognised from the ten minute Freeview on mucky channels.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Gregorys Boy on May 14, 2018, 11:08:41 PM
Having played well and done the job on Saturday I am confident that we'll go through now.  The longer it goes at 0-0 or even if they got one it would become edgy, but with our home record what it is I think we should have enough.  Will go 1-1 Snodgrass to get ours. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villafirst on May 14, 2018, 11:19:07 PM
Listening to the post match commentators on sky there's no point us or Boro turning up for the final. Fulham looked very good in attack but they are by no means unbeatable.

Yes, even SHA stuffed them 3-1!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on May 15, 2018, 07:27:34 AM
And Danny Murphy scored the winner for them with a freekick, to compound the misery.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Axl Rose on May 15, 2018, 07:36:53 AM
Very nervous, very excited. Finished work at 3pm, and now have to wait 12 hours or so for the game.
How nice it is to be involved in important games once again.

Come on Villa!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: l_mckay on May 15, 2018, 07:46:18 AM
Nervous to say the least,1-1 draw
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on May 15, 2018, 07:49:22 AM
I think he’ll go largely unchanged

I’m a bit concerned that the second half may have taken it out of us a fair bit. I can see the benefit in some fresh legs. Onomah and / or Bjarnason in particular.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on May 15, 2018, 08:57:56 AM
No game for me tonight, my missus has a second round job interview tomorrow so needs me to help prep her and do a mock interview. I tried to explain that Villa have been part of my life for a good 25 more years than she has but it wouldn't wash with her. I'm bloody gutted - best I've managed is a 20 minute pause at 21:15 to follow the closing stages. What a crap negotiator I am

Is it on the radio? Even those knuckleheads on Talksport will do. Don't think last night's game was on 5Live.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Tony Erdington on May 15, 2018, 09:03:23 AM
No game for me tonight, my missus has a second round job interview tomorrow so needs me to help prep her and do a mock interview. I tried to explain that Villa have been part of my life for a good 25 more years than she has but it wouldn't wash with her. I'm bloody gutted - best I've managed is a 20 minute pause at 21:15 to follow the closing stages. What a crap negotiator I am

Is it on the radio? Even those knuckleheads on Talksport will do. Don't think last night's game was on 5Live.

Chicken shit!!

last nights was on talksport 2, tonight's the same I believe. I see your down south, bit obvs Radio wm will have it too. i'll give them a shout for you!, she better get it after all your doing for her.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: waynejames on May 15, 2018, 09:04:29 AM
No game for me tonight, my missus has a second round job interview tomorrow so needs me to help prep her and do a mock interview. I tried to explain that Villa have been part of my life for a good 25 more years than she has but it wouldn't wash with her. I'm bloody gutted - best I've managed is a 20 minute pause at 21:15 to follow the closing stages. What a crap negotiator I am

Is it on the radio? Even those knuckleheads on Talksport will do. Don't think last night's game was on 5Live.


Bloomin heck.......
That's dedication in a relationship.......
Fair play to you sir
UTV!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on May 15, 2018, 09:53:43 AM
Nervous already, but strangely confident too. Looking forward to a special night at the Villa.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on May 15, 2018, 09:59:16 AM
Not sure why anyone would be nervous. When have Villa ever fucked anything up?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dorsetvillian on May 15, 2018, 10:05:19 AM
Late breakfast with my son in West Bay of Broadchurch fame! overlooking the sea. Then we will travel up to Brum to meet all the other Bournemouth Lions in the Villa Tavern. UTV.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on May 15, 2018, 10:08:35 AM
I'm not the slightest bit nervous when I usually am in important fixtures.  I'm going with the mindset that we shouldn't be here and should be already looking forward to life back where we belong.  But it's Villa and we have all become accustomed to them doing things the hard way.  2-0 on the night.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: St AustellAVFC on May 15, 2018, 10:11:18 AM
2 - 0 Villa. Grealish and Chester either side of HT.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Villa Werewolf on May 15, 2018, 10:53:40 AM
No game for me tonight, my missus has a second round job interview tomorrow so needs me to help prep her and do a mock interview. I tried to explain that Villa have been part of my life for a good 25 more years than she has but it wouldn't wash with her. I'm bloody gutted - best I've managed is a 20 minute pause at 21:15 to follow the closing stages. What a crap negotiator I am

Is it on the radio? Even those knuckleheads on Talksport will do. Don't think last night's game was on 5Live.

(https://media.tenor.com/images/86eb7c00905ba5fa58b0e0bc7c7c7486/tenor.gif)

It's on TalkSport (not Talksport 2)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: garyshawsknee on May 15, 2018, 10:58:26 AM
Mixed emotions this morning, feeling a bit cocky as we are the superior side and it's only Boro. But with Villa being Villa, we never seem to do things the easy way. First 20 minutes are important, grab an early goal and we can all get the cigars out. UTV.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: QuintonVilla on May 15, 2018, 11:18:43 AM
Nervous and excited. Can't wait to finish work and get to the boozer to calm the nerves a bit. VP will be bouncing tonight, best atmosphere for many a year I reckon.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Perthvillan on May 15, 2018, 11:35:51 AM
Very nervous, very excited. Finished work at 3pm, and now have to wait 12 hours or so for the game.
How nice it is to be involved in important games once again.

Come on Villa!
Same time zone as you and finished work at 3 also.
Was that nervous on Saturday night I had a few too many drinks.
Can't really do that tonight though as the game starts at 2.45 Wednesday morning.
Still not sure about work tomorrow though.
Come on Villa.
VTID
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Smith on May 15, 2018, 11:55:09 AM
If they all do their jobs properly tonight then we should win. My only real concern is the ref not getting a grip on their attempts to put Grealish out of the game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on May 15, 2018, 11:58:31 AM
If they all do their jobs properly tonight then we should win. My only real concern is the ref not getting a grip on their attempts to put Grealish out of the game.

Only Mike Dean could be worse than that tosser from Saturday
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Mister E on May 15, 2018, 12:02:14 PM
If they all do their jobs properly tonight then we should win. My only real concern is the ref not getting a grip on their attempts to put Grealish out of the game.

Only Mike Dean could be worse than that tosser from Saturday
Aaah.
"Houston: we have a problem"
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on May 15, 2018, 12:06:24 PM
Early goal for us will finish this. Confident about tonight, big games at home this season and we have done the business each and every time.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ROBBO on May 15, 2018, 12:13:46 PM
Got to be brave and attack, if we score first its all 0ver.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Axl Rose on May 15, 2018, 12:18:32 PM
If they all do their jobs properly tonight then we should win. My only real concern is the ref not getting a grip on their attempts to put Grealish out of the game.

Only Mike Dean could be worse than that tosser from Saturday

Oh dear, mate. You do know he's in charge tonight....I'm sure you do.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Smith on May 15, 2018, 12:43:50 PM
If they all do their jobs properly tonight then we should win. My only real concern is the ref not getting a grip on their attempts to put Grealish out of the game.

Only Mike Dean could be worse than that tosser from Saturday

Is there a heart-sinking emoji?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on May 15, 2018, 12:47:47 PM
At least we're not playing Spurzzzz.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on May 15, 2018, 01:10:41 PM
We need to hit them hard and try and finish it early. If they take the lead in the game it gets very tough, because that tension will filter through to the crowd.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: tony scott on May 15, 2018, 01:20:08 PM
Going to bed early up for 4.45 at least it’s better than sat 2.30 am just need same result utv
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: AV82EC on May 15, 2018, 01:23:00 PM
Bloody hell im old! Just seen Grealishs pre match playlist for the dressing room later.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on May 15, 2018, 01:27:27 PM
Early goal for us will finish this. Confident about tonight, big games at home this season and we have done the business each and every time.

Same here. The two games where we've really delivered and dominated this year were the Rags and Wolves. I expect under similar circumstances tonight we make it a third.

3-1 with Boro scoring in the last few minutes to spoil our record.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: tony_harrison on May 15, 2018, 02:01:25 PM
Early goal for us will finish this. Confident about tonight, big games at home this season and we have done the business each and every time.

Same here. The two games where we've really delivered and dominated this year were the Rags and Wolves. I expect under similar circumstances tonight we make it a third.

3-1 with Boro scoring in the last few minutes to spoil our record.

Bristol City was deemed a big game at the time due to our respective league positions. A 5-0 thumping followed. 3-0 tonight and another Grealish wonderstrike.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Mister E on May 15, 2018, 02:14:24 PM
According to Tiny, there'll be 48,000 attending the match (https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/may/15/jack-grealish-found-focus-aston-villa-steve-bruce).
He's a rather dislikeable individual.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: McGraths Dry Cleaning on May 15, 2018, 02:23:55 PM
I'm feeling relaxed - been telling MDC Jnr for ages "it's only a game, enjoy the moment, gracious in victory and defeat etc etc" and I've started to believe it myself!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on May 15, 2018, 02:31:34 PM
Middlesbrough will feel like there is 48,000 villa fans when they hear the crowd in full voice. was worried about Bree`s match fitness levels. But considering they all played three days ago it should be fine. Got a feeling Terry will score 1-0 and I win my bet that he will score more goals than Gabby ...... 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on May 15, 2018, 02:46:56 PM
According to Tiny, there'll be 48,000 attending the match (https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/may/15/jack-grealish-found-focus-aston-villa-steve-bruce).
He's a rather dislikeable individual.

So he is going on play for pens.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Edge on May 15, 2018, 02:48:34 PM
According to Tiny, there'll be 48,000 attending the match (https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/may/15/jack-grealish-found-focus-aston-villa-steve-bruce).
He's a rather dislikeable individual.
What did he say to make him rather dislikeable? He actually predicted "a proper football match in a great stadium at a great club" Ok he got the stat wrong by saying 48,000 and he predictably said all the pressure was on us but i'd expect any manager to try that tactic.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villabear on May 15, 2018, 03:10:45 PM
According to Tiny, there'll be 48,000 attending the match (https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/may/15/jack-grealish-found-focus-aston-villa-steve-bruce).
He's a rather dislikeable individual.
What did he say to make him rather dislikeable? He actually predicted "a proper football match in a great stadium at a great club" Ok he got the stat wrong by saying 48,000 and he predictably said all the pressure was on us but i'd expect any manager to try that tactic.

I'm with Mister E. I'm not keen on him at all. His constant jibes at us when he was with the Stripy Filth were petty at best. And he's a bit of a full kit wanker on the sidelines.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ZhongYi on May 15, 2018, 03:12:21 PM
a 3 in one post bad to hear news about J'Loyd Samuel. Shocker to just find that out logging in here. Poster in the relevant section of the site said one word "respect" which I think is very apt in his case. Villa's history surely better with his name involved. Anyway, Alan Hutton - fair play to the man if he will get another deal, was thinking about it earlier, based on his conduct and effort maybe he is on a par with some of the clubs stalwarts of modern times? just my opinion. Anyway over in China the game kicks off at 03:00 which is well past my bedtime so good luck to the lads and hey lets have a moment for J'Loyd Samuel as well. UTV.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on May 15, 2018, 03:12:53 PM
Come on Villa boys, let's win this tonight! Up the Villa!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on May 15, 2018, 03:33:39 PM
According to Tiny, there'll be 48,000 attending the match (https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/may/15/jack-grealish-found-focus-aston-villa-steve-bruce).
He's a rather dislikeable individual.
What did he say to make him rather dislikeable? He actually predicted "a proper football match in a great stadium at a great club" Ok he got the stat wrong by saying 48,000 and he predictably said all the pressure was on us but i'd expect any manager to try that tactic.

I'm with Mister E. I'm not keen on him at all. His constant jibes at us when he was with the Stripy Filth were petty at best. And he's a bit of a full kit wanker on the sidelines.

I look forward to all sides of the ground singing in unison, "There's only one Tiny Penis" as we go 3 up tonight.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: mr underhill on May 15, 2018, 03:39:49 PM
small time. Let our football do the talking
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: KevinGage on May 15, 2018, 03:43:01 PM
According to Tiny, there'll be 48,000 attending the match (https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/may/15/jack-grealish-found-focus-aston-villa-steve-bruce).
He's a rather dislikeable individual.
What did he say to make him rather dislikeable? He actually predicted "a proper football match in a great stadium at a great club" Ok he got the stat wrong by saying 48,000 and he predictably said all the pressure was on us but i'd expect any manager to try that tactic.

I'm with Mister E. I'm not keen on him at all. His constant jibes at us when he was with the Stripy Filth were petty at best. And he's a bit of a full kit wanker on the sidelines.

He's a shithouse, but nowt really wrong with his comments there.

I always took his desperation to compare and contrast our shots on target with his lousy Olbiyun mob (sometimes as little as 10 minutes after our respective games had finished) as a compliment.

Even when they were finishing above us due to our chronic ineptitude, Tiny was wise enough to know there was only one show in town.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: mr underhill on May 15, 2018, 03:46:01 PM
well let's hope the cock isn't crowing at 9.30 tonight
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on May 15, 2018, 03:46:17 PM
Is there enough room for everyone on the pitch tonight?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: oldtimernow on May 15, 2018, 04:12:22 PM
Just a small reminder.....tonight's game is at Villa Park and not at Wembley as was reported on the Today Radio 4 sports slot at 7.25am

Repeated at 8.25 am

And we moan about RadioWM.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Mister E on May 15, 2018, 04:20:36 PM
According to Tiny, there'll be 48,000 attending the match (https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/may/15/jack-grealish-found-focus-aston-villa-steve-bruce).
He's a rather dislikeable individual.
What did he say to make him rather dislikeable? He actually predicted "a proper football match in a great stadium at a great club" Ok he got the stat wrong by saying 48,000 and he predictably said all the pressure was on us but i'd expect any manager to try that tactic.

I'm with Mister E. I'm not keen on him at all. His constant jibes at us when he was with the Stripy Filth were petty at best. And he's a bit of a full kit wanker on the sidelines.

He's a shithouse, but nowt really wrong with his comments there.

I always took his desperation to compare and contrast our shots on target with his lousy Olbiyun mob (sometimes as little as 10 minutes after our respective games had finished) as a compliment.

Even when they were finishing above us due to our chronic ineptitude, Tiny was wise enough to know there was only one show in town.
Indeed, nowt wrong in that article.
I just don't like him (and I'm not being fickle either).
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Edge on May 15, 2018, 05:01:06 PM
According to Tiny, there'll be 48,000 attending the match (https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/may/15/jack-grealish-found-focus-aston-villa-steve-bruce).
He's a rather dislikeable individual.
What did he say to make him rather dislikeable? He actually predicted "a proper football match in a great stadium at a great club" Ok he got the stat wrong by saying 48,000 and he predictably said all the pressure was on us but i'd expect any manager to try that tactic.

I'm with Mister E. I'm not keen on him at all. His constant jibes at us when he was with the Stripy Filth were petty at best. And he's a bit of a full kit wanker on the sidelines.

He's a shithouse, but nowt really wrong with his comments there.

I always took his desperation to compare and contrast our shots on target with his lousy Olbiyun mob (sometimes as little as 10 minutes after our respective games had finished) as a compliment.

Even when they were finishing above us due to our chronic ineptitude, Tiny was wise enough to know there was only one show in town.
Indeed, nowt wrong in that article.
I just don't like him (and I'm not being fickle either).
Hairy muff
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: QuintonVilla on May 15, 2018, 05:33:38 PM
Looks like a massive banner hanging from the Holte on a picture I've just seen on Twitter.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on May 15, 2018, 05:35:41 PM
Just saw that on SSN. Hanging from the roof of the upper Holte.

Must be like one of those massive Polish style banners. Pyro at the ready?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: waynejames on May 15, 2018, 05:45:00 PM
Please please Villa no extra time and no pens.
I need to be on site in Nuneaton for work at 22.55
I also want to be looking forward to Wembley....!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: clash city rocker on May 15, 2018, 05:45:15 PM
Just fuckin do it villa.please.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 15, 2018, 05:54:44 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DdQIztNX0AA2DAV.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DdP_8fEX4AI_9M3.jpg)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VancouverLion on May 15, 2018, 05:59:56 PM
I'd be well pissed off if I were sat behind that when the teams come out!
Come on VILLA please do this the simple way, win in 90 mins comfortably so we're not all nervous wrecks.

Up the mighty Villa boys!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TaxDodger on May 15, 2018, 06:03:58 PM
We're not at home to Mr Cock Up.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Gerrin on May 15, 2018, 06:08:16 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DdQIztNX0AA2DAV.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DdP_8fEX4AI_9M3.jpg)

So will that get pulled up or dropped down before KO?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on May 15, 2018, 06:19:17 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DdQIztNX0AA2DAV.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DdP_8fEX4AI_9M3.jpg)

So will that get pulled up or dropped down before KO?

I should bloody hope so, I woe be able to see a cowin thing otherwise.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on May 15, 2018, 06:48:09 PM
Bree in to replace Elmo, otherwise unchanged.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: four fornicholl on May 15, 2018, 06:49:38 PM
I'm getting decidedly twitchy now.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Middlesbrough Semi Final 2nd Leg: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on May 15, 2018, 06:50:48 PM
Hope they have tested that banner a few times, imagine if it gets stuck and doesn't pull back up. 
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