Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: kieron on April 23, 2018, 10:15:31 AM
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https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2018/04/23/aston-villa-new-technical-kit-partnership-announced
Aston Villa Football Club is proud to announce an innovative new technical kit partnership with Fanatics, a global leader in performance sport garments and premium menswear brand LUKE 1977.
The ground-breaking partnership dispenses with convention and allows the club to provide a better experience for the fans. It also confirms Aston Villa as the first English team to adopt a three-party agreement with a preeminent manufacturer of sporting apparel and a leading UK fashion brand that holds Birmingham at its heart.
The arrangement sees Fanatics extend its successful relationship with the club, by becoming the official kit manufacturer while continuing to deliver its multi-channel retail capability to the club, including management of the Villa Park store.
Fanatics’ internationally recognised manufacturing profile will ensure that the quality of the kit remains best in class and the retail offering Villa provide will continue to exceed the expectations and needs of its fans.
With Fanatics' technical expertise on board, the partnership expands and enhances Villa’s retail offering to its vast, global fanbase. The club’s merchandise will continue to be showcased in the Villa Park store and on-line.
LUKE 1977 is a contemporary menswear fashion label with Birmingham engrained in its DNA. The brand, headed up by Birmingham bred Aston Villa fanatic Luke Roper, will maintain the quality and heritage of a kit that has played such an iconic, significant role in the Creative Director's life. This partnership has allowed Aston Villa to provide fans with a kit that has resonance with its Birmingham roots and ultimately develops its engagement with the local community.
Known for its market leading technical tailoring and unique sport’s utility designs, LUKE 1977 worked collaboratively with Villa and Fanatics on the design element of the club’s 2018/19 kit. The design benefits from the input of lifelong Villa fan Luke Roper, who understands the history of the shirt, and the technical prowess of Fanatics.
As both retail partner and kit manufacturer, Fanatics will operate a full vertical-manufacturing model, meaning the new kit, bearing the LUKE 1977 brand logo, will be managed by a single company from production to point-of-sale. This means fan merchandise enjoys faster speed-to-market in an increasingly on-demand world.
Commenting on the announcement, Aston Villa’s Chief Commercial Officer, Luke Organ said, “Aston Villa Football Club is proud to pioneer an exciting new tripartite technical kit partnership. Traditional routes often leave the club lacking an element of creative input, we wanted to take back control of the look and feel of the strip for our fans. We believe this partnership will further allow us to engage with the fans to a much greater extent than previously experienced with manufacturing partners.
“The deal with LUKE 1977 and Fanatics represents a true partnership. All parties work collaboratively to deliver the very best product for our fans. Extending our prosperous relationship with Fanatics can only benefit the Villa faithful and working with LUKE 1977, headed by lifelong Villa fan Luke Roper, is indicative of our commitment to the Aston Villa fanbase.
“As a club we are determined to lead the industry in every way that benefits our fans. We continually innovate off the field, providing the very best fan experience we can.”
Commenting on the announcement, LUKE 1977’s Creative Director, Luke Roper said, “As part of the pride and a lifelong Villa supporter, it is a huge honour to be asked to bring my 20 years of design experience to the creation of the new kits. I have worked closely in collaboration with both Aston Villa and Fanatics, which demonstrates a fresh approach to design and a commitment to give more back to the supporters. Every time a Villa fan sees the kits, they will know that one of their own has been a part of the design process.”
Fanatics International Managing Director, Ed Boardman said: “As an existing partner, we recognise the passionate fan base that Villa has and we’re delighted to add our manufacturing expertise to this new and exciting partnership. The design process was led by our Product Development team and overall, the new arrangement reflects a unique manufacturing model that offers collaborative opportunities for fashion-led brands such as Luke to enter this previously inaccessible sport.”
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Something different at least.
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I love Luke clobber. Fanatics are a great manufacturer of sports kit. Quite pleased with this.
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What's that in English?
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Reminds me of the gobbledygook the club wrote when Macron were providing our technical sporting clothing solutions. How about they cut through the bullshit and actually make something that's claret and blues and doesn't cost silly money to kit your kids out in
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Might work out alright this, Fanatics seem like they know what they are doing. The Villa fan who owns Luke must be pretty chuffed, so fair play to him.
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I do wonder how they are replacing the revenue recieved from a traditional manufacturer? They must have thought that through.
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I just hope they get the claret colour correct and we have traditional coloured away kit.
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I do wonder how they are replacing the revenue recieved from a traditional manufacturer? They must have thought that through.
By selling the shirts and keeping the cash.
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Let's hope they get them on sale nice and early this year; the last thing the club needs is a problem with availability.
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What's that in English?
Luke has announced that Luke is designing the kit and a company called Fanatics will produce and merchandise it?
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What's that in English?
Luke has announced that Luke is designing the kit and a company called Fanatics will produce and merchandise it?
Is that what "tripartite technical kit partnership" means?
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What's that in English?
Luke has announced that Luke is designing the kit and a company called Fanatics will produce and merchandise it?
This. It will be the Fanatics logo on the shirts and other stuff.
As he's a Villa fan I reckon it should be good.
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Who have they made kits for before? They've partnered with loads of clubs to manage the retail side but I don't think I've ever seen anything they've manufactured.
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Mentioned it somewhere else but my favourite Villa kits tend to be from the mid 90s. I loved the one we had the year Collymore signed in 1997 but since then we've messed around a little too much with the design and gone a little bit too purple with the colour.
Go back to white as the away kit and you're already onto a winner.
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Great. Zzzzzzzz
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http://fanaticsinc.com/
Some information about Fanatics.
https://www.fanatics.com/international-clubs/aston-villa/o-20988088+t-31874259+z-953-1810724294
Still selling last season's away shirt. For $70!
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What's that in English?
Luke has announced that Luke is designing the kit and a company called Fanatics will produce and merchandise it?
Is that what "tripartite technical kit partnership" means?
I believe so. In ludicrously hyperbolic corporate speak.
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ludicrously hyperbolic corporate speak.
we've got form for corporate bullshit
https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2012/02/06/villa-become-flagship-uk-club-in-record-breaking-deal-with-macron
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Luke logo will be on shirt, press release says so. Fanatics are the ones manufacturing it.
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Who have they made kits for before? They've partnered with loads of clubs to manage the retail side but I don't think I've ever seen anything they've manufactured.
Have a read of this article...
https://www.sportbusiness.com/sportbusiness-international/kit-parts-fanatics-shakes-sports-merchandising-market
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Who?
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Who have they made kits for before? They've partnered with loads of clubs to manage the retail side but I don't think I've ever seen anything they've manufactured.
Have a read of this article...
https://www.sportbusiness.com/sportbusiness-international/kit-parts-fanatics-shakes-sports-merchandising-market (https://www.sportbusiness.com/sportbusiness-international/kit-parts-fanatics-shakes-sports-merchandising-market)
Interesting, thanks.
I can't imagine the quality won't be good though because Luke 1977 wouldn't want to put their name to something shoddy, especially given the owner/designer is a villa fan.
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I must admit I have never heard of him hope he makes good kits.
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I must admit I have never heard of him hope he makes good kits.
+1.
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Campaign for Plain English to translate the pretentious marketing spiel please.
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Will reserve all judgement until I see a finished kit (or preferably all of them).
I've no great allegiance to any particular sports manufacturer but at least you know what you're getting with the tried and tested lot (generally something that's not quite Claret, with varying quality of material). That's no reason not to experiment, but I'd worry we'll end up with some sort of ultra chic abomination and be a bit of a laughing stock in whatever league we end up in.
EDIT: That said, so long as the football's good, who gives a toss? Kits come and go almost as fast as managers these days!
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I know him. His name is Luke Roper and he is from Walsall Wood.
He certainly wouldn't turn out any old crap and he is villa through and through.
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Aston Villa’s Chief Commercial Officer, Luke Organ said, “Aston Villa Football Club is proud to pioneer an exciting new tripartite technical kit partnership.
Clearly a spoof.
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Campaign for Plain English to translate the pretentious marketing spiel please.
We've signed Messi on a pre-contract for next season and Champion's League football is guaranteed for the year after. I think that is what it says, anyway.
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https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2018/04/23/aston-villa-new-technical-kit-partnership-announced
LUKE 1977 is a contemporary menswear fashion label with Birmingham engrained in its DNA.
Uh-oh, one for Private Eye
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When you've had Macron, absolutely anything is an improvement.
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Seems a really good idea and as a really big plus, I have just done a quick google search and as far as I can see Luke and Michael Rubin (fanatics owner) don't seem to go big game hunting in there spare time.
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Campaign for Plain English to translate the pretentious marketing spiel please.
We've signed Messi on a pre-contract for next season and Champion's League football is guaranteed for the year after. I think that is what it says, anyway.
Sorted.
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As both retail partner and kit manufacturer, Fanatics will operate a full vertical-manufacturing model, meaning the new kit, bearing the LUKE 1977 brand logo, will be managed by a single company from production to point-of-sale. This means fan merchandise enjoys faster speed-to-market in an increasingly on-demand world.
So presumably the savings in 3rd party costs will be passed to the fans?
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I reckon a record score in Bullshit Bingo for that press release.
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Away kit is white by all accounts and home a V neck
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Nice to see the Villa doing something a little different to other clubs, cutting the big labels out of the process, as it always felt that we got a fairly poor service from them in the past.
From a personal level, I'm reading this as "move along fella, you're too old and fat to wear a replica sports shirt".
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Let's hope we're not just a tad naive about the fact he's a Villa fan.
He's a bloke and he designs stuff. People will still love it or hate it; who he supports isn't really relevant.
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I think the speed-to-market has a lot to say - e.g. when we get to the FA Cup final next season, we will be able to supply all our new supporters with merchandise, and without committing in May/June how many to stock for x-mas sales.
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Is this Luke character the new Ciro Citterio?
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Let's hope we're not just a tad naive about the fact he's a Villa fan.
He's a bloke and he designs stuff. People will still love it or hate it; who he supports isn't really relevant.
Pretty much this.
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Is this Luke character the new Ciro Citterio?
No, he's Walsall's Gianni Versace. Wait til you see the away kit
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Let's hope we're not just a tad naive about the fact he's a Villa fan.
He's a bloke and he designs stuff. People will still love it or hate it; who he supports isn't really relevant.
Pretty much this.
Not really, if you asked most people on here, or any other fan site, what a villa kit should look like you'd get fairly similar answers:
proper claret body (not some pinky purple)
blue sleeves
white shorts
and a disagreement over the socks (blue for me)
Given he's a fan he'll know those 'rules'. That doesn't mean he'll feel obliged to follow them but if he chooses not to it it won't be through ignorance, that's the real difference.
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Never heard of either. I thought Fanatics was just the US equivalent of JDsports.
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Let's hope we're not just a tad naive about the fact he's a Villa fan.
He's a bloke and he designs stuff. People will still love it or hate it; who he supports isn't really relevant.
Pretty much this.
Not really, if you asked most people on here, or any other fan site, what a villa kit should look like you'd get fairly similar answers:
proper claret body (not some pinky purple)
blue sleeves
white shorts
and a disagreement over the socks (blue for me)
Given he's a fan he'll know those 'rules'. That doesn't mean he'll feel obliged to follow them but if he chooses not to it it won't be through ignorance, that's the real difference.
We've had several kits in recent times that fit those criteria but were naff. The physical quality of it also counts, but you haven't included that.
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All I care about is do we have a trillion pounds from this deal?
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Go for it Luke, Paisley print would be rather fetching.
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I hope its better than this amateur team that they sponsor in Surrey:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DYMI7kCXcAAGvFN.jpg)
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Let's hope we're not just a tad naive about the fact he's a Villa fan.
He's a bloke and he designs stuff. People will still love it or hate it; who he supports isn't really relevant.
Pretty much this.
Not really, if you asked most people on here, or any other fan site, what a villa kit should look like you'd get fairly similar answers:
proper claret body (not some pinky purple)
blue sleeves
white shorts
and a disagreement over the socks (blue for me)
Given he's a fan he'll know those 'rules'. That doesn't mean he'll feel obliged to follow them but if he chooses not to it it won't be through ignorance, that's the real difference.
We've had several kits in recent times that fit those criteria but were naff. The physical quality of it also counts, but you haven't included that.
because I didn't think it was necessary as I'd said earlier in the thread that a design label isn't going to sign off on something shitty carrying their brand because the complaints could ruin their reputation.
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Is this Luke character the new Ciro Citterio?
No, he's Walsall's Gianni Versace. Wait til you see the away kit
Have you seen it?
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Let me guess lovely shirt but skinny fit so us normals won't get the opportunity to wear it
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"With Fanatics' technical expertise on board, the partnership expands and enhances Villa’s retail offering to its vast, global fanbase. The club’s merchandise will continue to be showcased in the Villa Park store and on-line"
Thank God for that. I was getting worried that Villa would be expanding their retail offering to its vast, global fanbase and not showcasing its merchandise in the Villa store and online.
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Let's hope we're not just a tad naive about the fact he's a Villa fan.
He's a bloke and he designs stuff. People will still love it or hate it; who he supports isn't really relevant.
Pretty much this.
Not really, if you asked most people on here, or any other fan site, what a villa kit should look like you'd get fairly similar answers:
proper claret body (not some pinky purple)
blue sleeves
white shorts
and a disagreement over the socks (blue for me)
Given he's a fan he'll know those 'rules'. That doesn't mean he'll feel obliged to follow them but if he chooses not to it it won't be through ignorance, that's the real difference.
So basically have the same design that we have had for what 17 years straight? Personally i want to see a different design. Things need freshening up so it's time to change the tired old design. Obviously the same colours, but how much longer can it be justified to charge premium for what is near enough the same design it's been since around 2001.
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Let me guess lovely shirt but skinny fit so us normals won't get the opportunity to wear it
With football shirts getting ever skinnier i think it'd be nice to see the club / manufacturer adopt what Wasps do with their kit, They have a Authentic Top with is the same fit as the players but is tighter than your own skin, but they also have a replica Top which is a looser fit so the average fan can have a shirt that fits.
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I'm hoping it's 100% cotton with natural dyes.
I sweat like a £$%^^& in these polyester football shirts.
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Let's hope we're not just a tad naive about the fact he's a Villa fan.
He's a bloke and he designs stuff. People will still love it or hate it; who he supports isn't really relevant.
Pretty much this.
Not really, if you asked most people on here, or any other fan site, what a villa kit should look like you'd get fairly similar answers:
proper claret body (not some pinky purple)
blue sleeves
white shorts
and a disagreement over the socks (blue for me)
Given he's a fan he'll know those 'rules'. That doesn't mean he'll feel obliged to follow them but if he chooses not to it it won't be through ignorance, that's the real difference.
So basically have the same design that we have had for what 17 years straight? Personally i want to see a different design. Things need freshening up so it's time to change the tired old design. Obviously the same colours, but how much longer can it be justified to charge premium for what is near enough the same design it's been since around 2001.
nope, basically the same design we've had for 120 years (I'm ignoring the really early stuff because, like all clubs, we were some really weird shit in the 1870s and early 1880s). In all that time we've had about 20 seasons where those 'rules' don't apply. You still have lots of room to play with the design though. Aside from that how many of those kits had complaints about the claret being the wrong colour?
What I expect to see, and this is just a guess, is something that leans more towards the '82 kit with the blue side panels and the v-neck (but with some twist to it), that's not based on anything other than an expectation that part of the brief here will be about reconnecting with fans and a homage to that shirt would be a very good step in that direction.
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So now we're arguing about how shit a design it is before we've even seen it.
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So now we're arguing about how shit a design it is before we've even seen it.
Has anyone said anything about it being shit? There's a few comments about shirts getting 'skinnier' and stuart decided to disagree about what most fans would want the basic design to be but I can't see anyone saying it's going to be shit.
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He did say 'personally' he'd like to see a different design. Don't see a problem with that point of view really.
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Let's hope we're not just a tad naive about the fact he's a Villa fan.
He's a bloke and he designs stuff. People will still love it or hate it; who he supports isn't really relevant.
Pretty much this.
Not really, if you asked most people on here, or any other fan site, what a villa kit should look like you'd get fairly similar answers:
proper claret body (not some pinky purple)
blue sleeves
white shorts
and a disagreement over the socks (blue for me)
Given he's a fan he'll know those 'rules'. That doesn't mean he'll feel obliged to follow them but if he chooses not to it it won't be through ignorance, that's the real difference.
So basically have the same design that we have had for what 17 years straight? Personally i want to see a different design. Things need freshening up so it's time to change the tired old design. Obviously the same colours, but how much longer can it be justified to charge premium for what is near enough the same design it's been since around 2001.
nope, basically the same design we've had for 120 years (I'm ignoring the really early stuff because, like all clubs, we were some really weird shit in the 1870s and early 1880s). In all that time we've had about 20 seasons where those 'rules' don't apply. You still have lots of room to play with the design though. Aside from that how many of those kits had complaints about the claret being the wrong colour?
What I expect to see, and this is just a guess, is something that leans more towards the '82 kit with the blue side panels and the v-neck (but with some twist to it), that's not based on anything other than an expectation that part of the brief here will be about reconnecting with fans and a homage to that shirt would be a very good step in that direction.
The wrong colour argument will always happen i can't remember a season when it didn't.
as i said IMO it needs refreshing as how can it be justified to pay top price that hasn't changed in that amount of years
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I think the slim fit shirts look better.
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So now we're arguing about how shit a design it is before we've even seen it.
Has anyone said anything about it being shit? There's a few comments about shirts getting 'skinnier' and stuart decided to disagree about what most fans would want the basic design to be but I can't see anyone saying it's going to be shit.
*White Knighting? ;)
I was trying to be a little tongue in cheek. Didn't come across very well. Sorry.
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He did say 'personally' he'd like to see a different design. Don't see a problem with that point of view really.
I didn't say he was wrong to want something different, I disagreed with the 'same for 17 seasons' bit because it's, as I said, more accurate to say 'the same for the majority of our existence', which does make a difference.
Stuart, the price thing is misleading, the cost of shirts is obscene regardless of how much they change. My original point is that the basic design for a villa kit is very simple and because he's a fan he'll know that. I'm not saying he won't differ from it (or that he shouldn't) but merely pointing out that if he does deviate from the standard it will be an educated choice to do so. I'd actually say he's more likely to do something a bit different because he won't be playing safe using a boilerplate and adding the colours as will have been the case with a number of the recent kits. That's why I think we're more likely to see an '82 style shirt than something like we've had the last few years, because that's still largely following the expectations but different enough from what we've seen to be noticeable.
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Apologies for going all Gok Wan here, but wasn't the 2013/14 Macron kit based very much on the 1982 kit? Even down to the strategically placed Dafabet logo in the middle of the shirt
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The more I've thought about this today I've become more respecting of it - when they said it was an innovative and pretty unprecedented idea they weren't lying! It's certainly really interesting from a business perspective and could set an example for clubs in the future to take more ownership of their brand. In today's market with the massive TV revenues available, I think clubs need to rely less on signing a kit deal for financial security which could offer them a bit more creative freedom and involve fans more!
There are pros and cons of course - I'd imagine more revenue goes direct to the club from each shirt, but equally we lose out from the marketing and distribution channels of not being with a big multi-national like Under Armour and getting our shirts into sports shops around the world. Does offer a lot of interesting flexibility for the club in how it markets and releases designs too - as someone mentioned, we won't have to work as strictly to the annual release cycle that being with a big third party label usually entails (for example - an 'FA Cup' or 'Play Off' special edition design). Which I think is pretty cool.
As long as it looks good I'll be buying one cause it will be a really unique shirt either way in the masses of cookie-cutter Nike/Adidas/Puma/UA designs. Similar to the Acorns initiative a few year back, I'm quite proud its us who have done this.
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Not interested in all the pretentious marketing shite. Just give us proper shirts.
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Could we see Fanatics logo featured on the sleeve maybe? I’m in no doubt this deal is significantly better for us under FFP also
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Not interested in all the pretentious marketing shite. Just give us proper shirts.
define "proper".
Everyone seem to have a view on what a Villa shirt should look like.
I rarely get very obsessed by it but if I were forced to make a choice I'd want the kit to approximate the 1970-71-72 version with the true colours and unadorned lion; with yellow shirt / blue shorts as the away kit.
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I think the slim fit shirts look better.
Not on me it won't
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Could we see Fanatics logo featured on the sleeve maybe? I’m in no doubt this deal is significantly better for us under FFP also
I don't see what FFP has to do with it other than the kit presumably costing the club less (unless Luke Roper is ploughing a load of money into the club as a sponsorship favour; but he could do that regardless of FFP).
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(https://thumb.ibb.co/kvBX9H/01_Email_Article_01_648x340_Enhanced.png) (https://ibb.co/kvBX9H)
Liking the colour on the press releases - maybe a hint? Compare it the existing one (note the texture on the new one too...):
(https://thumb.ibb.co/bZCppH/Footer_Template_FINAL_AMENDED.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bZCppH)
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Ah, but the current colour is the Claret Pantone someone reliably told us last time this came up....
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circa 77 texture. mmmmmmmmmmm
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Could we see Fanatics logo featured on the sleeve maybe? I’m in no doubt this deal is significantly better for us under FFP also
I don't see what FFP has to do with it other than the kit presumably costing the club less (unless Luke Roper is ploughing a load of money into the club as a sponsorship favour; but he could do that regardless of FFP).
A better deal, more margin would all count toward FFP
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Is UniBet still going to be our sponsor or could Recon be moving to front of shirt?
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circa 77 texture. mmmmmmmmmmm
I was thinking 80/81
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I know Fanatics for a while.
They run sport e-commerce site such as MLB, NBA, NHL and NFL and own site with combined sports, kitbag, etc.
They also own the company Majestic which supply make MLB baseball shirt.
I buy lot of stuff from them in the past. It is great news for Villa fans.
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How about wearing the new kit for the last game of our season, you know when we win at Wembley. ;)
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Seems a positive move to me. If we now have Recon as the shirt sponsor that'll make even more financial sense
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We've got a tripartite technical kit partnership, we've got a tripartite technical kit partnership, you aint, you aint...
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How about wearing the new kit for the last game of our season, you know when we win at Wembley. ;)
It will look good when we smash in the winning penalty in the shoot out.....
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Maybe John Terry could change into the new kit before he goes up the steps to collect the play off trophy :)
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When you've had Macron, absolutely anything is an improvement.
I've still got the ******!
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What's that in English?
Luke has announced that Luke is designing the kit and a company called Fanatics will produce and merchandise it?
Is that what "tripartite technical kit partnership" means?
ITTTKPSOTP!
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I just hope they attempt a retro style kit and not try something new
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If you have a decent anti virus, take a look at Small Men’s Alliance and their reactions to this deal. A healthy mixture of bitterness, subjective guesswork, blind ignorance and bullshit. Superb.
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Home shirt. 5 or 7 hooped claret and blue shirt.
Away shirt. Plain white.
Or.
Away shirt. Plain yellow
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I guess my only concern might be the women's range as Luke is, to date, only a male label.
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I just hope they attempt a retro style kit and not try something new
I have wanted to see a reprise of this kit for some time now:
(https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/vp/7f9ebca05611e396f0fe3b41fbb4f043/5B2F9563/t51.2885-15/s320x320/e35/10949098_1137669519594931_493666257_n.jpg)
PWS: Fixed link.
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One thing is for certain -
Some will like it, some won't.
Pass it on
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I just hope Mr 1977 knows what colour claret is and tells whoever has that pallette code used by Macron and UA to shove it where the sun don't shine.
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Can we just have this design please?
(https://thumb.ibb.co/n6qS9H/DBD0_FCBD_9077_4_E4_F_B76_D_F6_FDA10_CF757.jpg) (https://ibb.co/n6qS9H)
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Hopefully you will be right...Luke 1977 may take inspiration and justification for the design using part of their own brand name and that may result in a replica from that year. Fingers crossed it’s a good design and uses the right colours whatever they come up with!
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Fingers crossed it...uses the right colours whatever they come up with!
I admit to becoming more and more annoyed about this, as new (purple) kits come and go! Has anybody ever come up with a reason for them getting it wrong?
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Fingers crossed it...uses the right colours whatever they come up with!
I admit to becoming more and more annoyed about this, as new (purple) kits come and go! Has anybody ever come up with a reason for them getting it wrong?
It could have originally arisen from a transition to digital specifications, combined with certain people's monitors not being properly calibrated. The pantone that apparently Macron and UA use does look right to me - on certain flatscreen monitors with certain colour settings. However, that does not excuse the continuation of the wrong colours once whoever at the club had seen the first samples.
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When you've had Macron, absolutely anything is an improvement.
I've still got the c***!
Post of the season.
I might be getting broody but I loved the part of the video when Luke let his little lion cubs loose on VP.
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Anyone still think it's not going to matter that he's a fan?
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Anyone still think it's not going to matter that he's a fan?
Me. If the design looks right and the quality's there I'm not fussed either way.
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Let's hope we're not just a tad naive about the fact he's a Villa fan.
He's a bloke and he designs stuff. People will still love it or hate it; who he supports isn't really relevant.
Pretty much this.
Not really, if you asked most people on here, or any other fan site, what a villa kit should look like you'd get fairly similar answers:
proper claret body (not some pinky purple)
blue sleeves
white shorts
and a disagreement over the socks (blue for me)
Given he's a fan he'll know those 'rules'. That doesn't mean he'll feel obliged to follow them but if he chooses not to it it won't be through ignorance, that's the real difference.
Can't be that difficult hitting claret? from Wiki.
Claret
Color coordinates
Hex triplet #7F1734
sRGB* (r, g, b) (127, 23, 52)
CMYK** (c, m, y, k) (0, 82, 59, 50)
HSV (h, s, v) (343°, 82%, 50[6]%)
*: Normalized to [0–255] (byte)
**: Normalized to [0–100] (hundred)
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Looks a bit like Tim Roth with added pounds
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Me. If the design looks right and the quality's there I'm not fussed either way.
but that's the point, listening to that I think he'll take it personally if the design and/or quality isn't good enough.
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Assuming he was born in 77, I’m guessing our early 80s kits will be out of memory for him. Yes , he has seen them obviously, but would they hold a special significance to him ? The late 80s kits maybe more his abiding early memories?
My first match was 82 and that years kit is still probably my favourite ever, as it was my first involvement with us ?
I’m hoping the Henson Kit wasn’t his !!!
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He says in the video that one of his favourites is the Hummel 87/88 kit, same as me. Watching that I think it will look great and remember in 12 months time we will be having this same conversation again about what the following seasons kit will look like.
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Anyone still think it's not going to matter that he's a fan?
Me. If the design looks right and the quality's there I'm not fussed either way.
I think it will definitely make a difference that he's a fan of the villa. The guy is clearly very proud to have got the gig and he is going to put his heart and soul into getting it right. Fair play to him and good luck to him. UTV
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I was born in 77 and had that 86 Hummel shirt, I use to find it uncomfortable where the stripes were and not particularly attractive. My first kit was 83/84 which I still see as a classic, especially the away one.
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I was born in 77 and had that 86 Hummel shirt, I use to find it uncomfortable where the stripes were and not particularly attractive. My first kit was 83/84 which I still see as a classic, especially the away one.
Wasn't it Henson, the 86 kit? without a badge on it?
I've still got my Hummel away kit, the stripey one from the promotion season. Seems to have shrunk a bit though..... is it worth anything?
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I was born in 77 and had that 86 Hummel shirt, I use to find it uncomfortable where the stripes were and not particularly attractive. My first kit was 83/84 which I still see as a classic, especially the away one.
Wasn't it Henson, the 86 kit? without a badge on it?
I've still got my Hummel away kit, the stripey one from the promotion season. Seems to have shrunk a bit though..... is it worth anything?
I've still got mine as well. Mine have shrunk as well. How very odd.
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He says in the video that one of his favourites is the Hummel 87/88 kit, same as me. Watching that I think it will look great and remember in 12 months time we will be having this same conversation again about what the following seasons kit will look like.
Wasn't a fan of those Hummel efforts (both incarnations) at all.
Though I can see why the 87/88 one would be associated with happier times.
Graham Taylor wasn't a fan either, think he took to the programme notes to say he insisted the shirt should be a proper Villa one by 89/90.
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Let's hope we're not just a tad naive about the fact he's a Villa fan.
He's a bloke and he designs stuff. People will still love it or hate it; who he supports isn't really relevant.
Pretty much this.
Not really, if you asked most people on here, or any other fan site, what a villa kit should look like you'd get fairly similar answers:
proper claret body (not some pinky purple)
blue sleeves
white shorts
and a disagreement over the socks (blue for me)
Given he's a fan he'll know those 'rules'. That doesn't mean he'll feel obliged to follow them but if he chooses not to it it won't be through ignorance, that's the real difference.
Can't be that difficult hitting claret? from Wiki.
Claret
Color coordinates
Hex triplet #7F1734
sRGB* (r, g, b) (127, 23, 52)
CMYK** (c, m, y, k) (0, 82, 59, 50)
HSV (h, s, v) (343°, 82%, 50[6]%)
*: Normalized to [0–255] (byte)
**: Normalized to [0–100] (hundred)
Seems easy... But its not necessarily the claret we want. We (I) want the claret we wore in the late 70s early 80s which probably wasn't based on those colour co-ordinates. Not that I am particularly entitled to a view. I haven't bought an official shirt since about 1990 and the last Villa apparel I bought was a t-shirt with Martin O'Neil's face transposed on to Alberto Korda's iconic Che Guevara photo.
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Let's hope we're not just a tad naive about the fact he's a Villa fan.
He's a bloke and he designs stuff. People will still love it or hate it; who he supports isn't really relevant.
Pretty much this.
Not really, if you asked most people on here, or any other fan site, what a villa kit should look like you'd get fairly similar answers:
proper claret body (not some pinky purple)
blue sleeves
white shorts
and a disagreement over the socks (blue for me)
Given he's a fan he'll know those 'rules'. That doesn't mean he'll feel obliged to follow them but if he chooses not to it it won't be through ignorance, that's the real difference.
Can't be that difficult hitting claret? from Wiki.
Claret
Color coordinates
Hex triplet #7F1734
sRGB* (r, g, b) (127, 23, 52)
CMYK** (c, m, y, k) (0, 82, 59, 50)
HSV (h, s, v) (343°, 82%, 50[6]%)
*: Normalized to [0–255] (byte)
**: Normalized to [0–100] (hundred)
Seems easy... But its not necessarily the claret we want. We (I) want the claret we wore in the late 70s early 80s which probably wasn't based on those colour co-ordinates. Not that I am particularly entitled to a view. I haven't bought an official shirt since about 1990 and the last Villa apparel I bought was a t-shirt with Martin O'Neil's face transposed on to Alberto Korda's iconic Che Guevara photo.
I knew it.
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I liked the white Acorns one from a few seasons ago.
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(http://www.footballshirtculture.com/images/1football/hummel-1987-89-aston-villa-match-issue-home-shirt.jpg)
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The shirt that fashion forgot along with the green/black monstrosity.
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Probably because of my age I have always been fond of these two.
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c6/45/96/c6459647ad99a25ba02659b37d904bc6.jpg)
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I think the thing that has made me like some shirts more than others is mainly down to the quality and feel of the shirt. Better quality, the better i like it. Hence thumbs down to: Macron Hummel of late. Liked the Reebok and Nike.
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According the the noses Luke has made a commercial error that could really affect his business in the Bull Ring store as no Villa fans shop in town only in Staffs and Worcs.....lol
To quote "That Luke geezer so publicly aligning himself with the vile could be a big mistake for his business in our city. unless he opens a few shops in their carrot crunching heartlands he could be struggling."
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(http://www.footballshirtculture.com/images/1football/hummel-1987-89-aston-villa-match-issue-home-shirt.jpg)
The away one from this season was lovely. First Villa shirt I ever had, given by a relative as wasn't born then.
The badge came off eventually.
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I’d say that the white/claret/yellow le coq Shirt is my favourite away one, despite the fact that the claret ran like a bastard in the wash. Still got mine, though.
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1999/00 my favourite away. Always liked white with claret and blue bits incorporated and the diagonal stripe was great. Although if worn these days the stripe doesn't appear to be in a straight line anymore ;D
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Luke logo will be on shirt, press release says so. Fanatics are the ones manufacturing it.
Fanatics also running the club shop
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Luke logo will be on shirt, press release says so. Fanatics are the ones manufacturing it.
Fanatics also running the club shop
Whoever has been in charge of merchandising should be shot, they can not even get a replica shirt that looks decent.
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Luke logo will be on shirt, press release says so. Fanatics are the ones manufacturing it.
Fanatics also running the club shop
I have just received two mugs in a 'Fanatics' box. Both mugs were scuffed and not in pristine condition. Not cool when they are intended as gifts.
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(http://www.footballshirtculture.com/images/1football/hummel-1987-89-aston-villa-match-issue-home-shirt.jpg)
i quite liked the stripey Hummel top back then and I do still a bit now. It is eye-jarring though. Seem to recall a pic of George Best wearing the white away one on the cover of the programme, unless I’m completely wrong?
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It aint rocket science for the home shirt. Claret body, blue sleeves. Any deviation from that will be pure shite.
The striped Hummel kit from the 80s, and the Asics kit from the 90s were garbage.
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I quite liked the Hummel kit.
If you want proper garbage, look to that Henson one.
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Probably because of my age I have always been fond of these two.
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c6/45/96/c6459647ad99a25ba02659b37d904bc6.jpg)
I'm a similar era to you but I preferred the 90/91 home shirt that was the same style as that away one.
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We wore that white away shirt for 3 seasons. It was ace.
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I quite liked the Hummel kit.
If you want proper garbage, look to that Henson one.
I loved it when Denmark wore it and every bit as much when we had it
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We wore that white away shirt for 3 seasons. It was ace.
It really was but it still gives me nightmares about being cheated at the San Siro.
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If you want proper garbage, look to that Henson one.
Yep, the henson one was pretty poor effort as well. Add to that the diadora solid claret one.
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Probably because of my age I have always been fond of these two.
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c6/45/96/c6459647ad99a25ba02659b37d904bc6.jpg)
I'm a similar era to you but I preferred the 90/91 home shirt that was the same style as that away one.
Yeah I do like that one as well, I remember seeing Platt and Daley at Villa Park wearing that one.
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I was born in 77 and had that 86 Hummel shirt, I use to find it uncomfortable where the stripes were and not particularly attractive. My first kit was 83/84 which I still see as a classic, especially the away one.
Wasn't it Henson, the 86 kit? without a badge on it?
I've still got my Hummel away kit, the stripey one from the promotion season. Seems to have shrunk a bit though..... is it worth anything?
They regularly fetch anything from £60-130 ( ish) on EBay.
I liked those kits at the time , but preferred the following Hummel ones. Particularly the away one -white with black arms.
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In the clip posted earlier in this thread, Luke actually mentions the famous claret body shirt wit wide blue strip up middle of it
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I quite liked the Hummel kit.
If you want proper garbage, look to that Henson one.
We had another Hummel kit in the early 2000's didn't we? Seem to remember the away kit being pretty decent.
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Can we just have this design please?
(https://thumb.ibb.co/n6qS9H/DBD0_FCBD_9077_4_E4_F_B76_D_F6_FDA10_CF757.jpg) (https://ibb.co/n6qS9H)
Great shirt - worn at the start of our Long March to Rotterdam
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(http://www.footballshirtculture.com/images/1football/hummel-1987-89-aston-villa-match-issue-home-shirt.jpg)
i quite liked the stripey Hummel top back then and I do still a bit now. It is eye-jarring though. Seem to recall a pic of George Best wearing the white away one on the cover of the programme, unless I’m completely wrong?
I would love it if the designs where like that and the white away one would be brilliant Robbo
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(http://www.footballshirtculture.com/images/1football/hummel-1987-89-aston-villa-match-issue-home-shirt.jpg)
i quite liked the stripey Hummel top back then and I do still a bit now. It is eye-jarring though. Seem to recall a pic of George Best wearing the white away one on the cover of the programme, unless I’m completely wrong?
I would love it if the designs where like that and the white away one would be brilliant Robbo
I remember Alan Green commentating on one of our games and describing that kit from a distance as the colours of raspberry and blancmange and he was right. Apologies for referencing Alan Green.
Graham Taylor's Raspberry and Blancmange Army
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im in some facebook villa groups, mainly to watch the games on dodgy streams if i cant get down VP. it is astounding the level of fuckwittery from a portion of our fans. I cant believe the level of objection to a ground breaking idea like this. I swear they would rather nike churn out some mass production print offs and get them for sale mid october than embrace a local lad and give him a chance.
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im in some facebook villa groups, mainly to watch the games on dodgy streams if i cant get down VP. it is astounding the level of fuckwittery from a portion of our fans. I cant believe the level of objection to a ground breaking idea like this. I swear they would rather nike churn out some mass production print offs and get them for sale mid october than embrace a local lad and give him a chance.
I know, those idiots on Facebook have absolutely no concept of a tripartite technical kit partnership.
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(http://www.footballshirtculture.com/images/1football/hummel-1987-89-aston-villa-match-issue-home-shirt.jpg)
i quite liked the stripey Hummel top back then and I do still a bit now. It is eye-jarring though. Seem to recall a pic of George Best wearing the white away one on the cover of the programme, unless I’m completely wrong?
I would love it if the designs where like that and the white away one would be brilliant Robbo
I remember Alan Green commentating on one of our games and describing that kit from a distance as the colours of raspberry and blancmange and he was right. Apologies for referencing Alan Green.
Graham Taylor's Raspberry and Blancmange Army
Alan Green (sigh) Got in the car last night, turned on the radio only to hear him on Radio 5 commentating on the Liverpool V Roma game. I thought it couldn't get any worse until he asked his 'expert summeriser' Robbie Savage about the game. FFS
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(http://www.footballshirtculture.com/images/1football/hummel-1987-89-aston-villa-match-issue-home-shirt.jpg)
i quite liked the stripey Hummel top back then and I do still a bit now. It is eye-jarring though. Seem to recall a pic of George Best wearing the white away one on the cover of the programme, unless I’m completely wrong?
I would love it if the designs where like that and the white away one would be brilliant Robbo
I remember Alan Green commentating on one of our games and describing that kit from a distance as the colours of raspberry and blancmange and he was right. Apologies for referencing Alan Green.
Graham Taylor's Raspberry and Blancmange Army
Alan Green (sigh) Got in the car last night, turned on the radio only to hear him on Radio 5 commentating on the Liverpool V Roma game. I thought it couldn't get any worse until he asked his 'expert summeriser' Robbie Savage about the game. FFS
*reaches for revolver*
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Alan Green (sigh) Got in the car last night, turned on the radio only to hear him on Radio 5 commentating on the Liverpool V Roma game. I thought it couldn't get any worse until he asked his 'expert summeriser' Robbie Savage about the game. FFS
*reaches for revolver*
You'd only need one shot if you lined it up right.
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(http://www.footballshirtculture.com/images/1football/hummel-1987-89-aston-villa-match-issue-home-shirt.jpg)
Forgetting sentimental reasons, I absolutely hated that kit. It's bloody awful!
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Probably because of my age I have always been fond of these two.
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c6/45/96/c6459647ad99a25ba02659b37d904bc6.jpg)
Stunners!
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(https://thumb.ibb.co/dA3kGx/kit3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dA3kGx)
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(https://i2-prod.birminghammail.co.uk/incoming/article14573752.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/kit5.jpg)
Don't mind that one.
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Round badge on the away?
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I thought those were real till I saw the round badge :-[
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im in some facebook villa groups, mainly to watch the games on dodgy streams if i cant get down VP. it is astounding the level of fuckwittery from a portion of our fans. I cant believe the level of objection to a ground breaking idea like this. I swear they would rather nike churn out some mass production print offs and get them for sale mid october than embrace a local lad and give him a chance.
Good point.
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According the the noses Luke has made a commercial error that could really affect his business in the Bull Ring store as no Villa fans shop in town only in Staffs and Worcs.....lol
To quote "That Luke geezer so publicly aligning himself with the vile could be a big mistake for his business in our city. unless he opens a few shops in their carrot crunching heartlands he could be struggling."
It's hilarious that those numptys continue to believe such rubbish. We do have more fans than they do in the shires- we also have more in the towns and city's. We just have more fans than them. EVERYWHERE. Morons.
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According the the noses Luke has made a commercial error that could really affect his business in the Bull Ring store as no Villa fans shop in town only in Staffs and Worcs.....lol
To quote "That Luke geezer so publicly aligning himself with the vile could be a big mistake for his business in our city. unless he opens a few shops in their carrot crunching heartlands he could be struggling."
It's hilarious that those numptys continue to believe such rubbish. We do have more fans than they do in the shires- we also have more in the towns and city's. We just have more fans than them. EVERYWHERE. Morons.
I don't know, I saw one in the garden centre at the weekend. TEH BALANCE OF POWER IS SHIFTIN', TOM.
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Would need to see the final beasty in the flesh of course, but an obvious issue here is we're going double lion (and two different lions at that) on the front of the shirt if we stick with the Luke 77 logo.
Might look a bit cluttered. And odd.
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(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/31286482_118540132340604_4257203388028026880_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=fbeba5c610efeb9e712301f4b6fb1c07&oe=5B5EB130)
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Much better.
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According the the noses Luke has made a commercial error that could really affect his business in the Bull Ring store as no Villa fans shop in town only in Staffs and Worcs.....lol
To quote "That Luke geezer so publicly aligning himself with the vile could be a big mistake for his business in our city. unless he opens a few shops in their carrot crunching heartlands he could be struggling."
It's hilarious that those numptys continue to believe such rubbish. We do have more fans than they do in the shires- we also have more in the towns and city's. We just have more fans than them. EVERYWHERE. Morons.
I don't know, I saw one in the garden centre at the weekend. TEH BALANCE OF POWER IS SHIFTIN', TOM.
LOL
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Where's Marshall with his kits? Not knocking Pete3206's but kit designs have been M's sole contribution to H&V discourse over the last few years that it's fair to say he's carved out a niche.
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Is it just me but I thought the Luke logo was some sort of long haired Yeti with a long tongue.
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That Recon logo is shit. Looks like the logo from The A Team.
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Good video on the you tube channel, he mentions the 87/88 kit a few times - I wonder if it's going to be a twist on that.
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I hope not, the away kit was Ok but the home kit with stripes and pink I find an abomination.
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It's got to be a v neck for me don't really like the round neck nor did Peter Withe if memory serves me correct he use to cut the round neck to make a v.
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I hope not, the away kit was Ok but the home kit with stripes and pink I find an abomination.
Primark pyjamas
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That Recon logo is shit. Looks like the logo from The A Team.
That's irrelevant. Recon will be on everything Aston Villa for some time to come.
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From the official site:
"Fans have discussed the shade of claret featured on previous tops, as they referenced tones that range from pink to purple on message boards and social media.
This has been noted by club officials and we’ve moved to look into the issue, alongside Roper and Fanatics.
We believe, having already done some initial and detailed exploratory work, that the new kit will feature a darker shade – and one seen by our fanbase as a more genuine claret colour."
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(https://thumb.ibb.co/dA3kGx/kit3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dA3kGx)
A bit Brown
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(https://thumb.ibb.co/dA3kGx/kit3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dA3kGx)
A bit Brown
Cadbury's brown
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From the official site:
"Fans have discussed the shade of claret featured on previous tops, as they referenced tones that range from pink to purple on message boards and social media.
This has been noted by club officials and we’ve moved to look into the issue, alongside Roper and Fanatics.
We believe, having already done some initial and detailed exploratory work, that the new kit will feature a darker shade – and one seen by our fanbase as a more genuine claret colour."
Yeah I suspect this will mean going a few shades darker than the pantone Edvard posted earlier in the thread. If you go here - https://www.colorhexa.com/7f1734 - you can get loads of info about it and if you scroll down there's a 'shades and tints' section. I suspect they'll move 2-3 to the left as those are more like the older kits that people refer back to.
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Whilst we are discussing the correct shade of claret, somebody should walk around the ground and ensure that all the paintwork is a consistent claret as well - there must be a dozen different shades on view
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'Edvard and the Pantones' were one of the support bands on the recent tour by 'African Car Reverser'
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(https://thumb.ibb.co/dA3kGx/kit3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dA3kGx)
A bit Brown
Cadbury's brown
Cleveland Browns?
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'Edvard and the Pantones' were one of the support bands on the recent tour by 'African Car Reverser'
'Hexadecimal color #7f1734' are one of the bands that you'll be watching at that Liverpool festival later this year.
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I presume that the club has brand guidelines and its down to them to see fabric samples of any potential kit and agree that the fabric is a good match to the AVFC claret (and blue).
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From the official site:
"Fans have discussed the shade of claret featured on previous tops, as they referenced tones that range from pink to purple on message boards and social media.
This has been noted by club officials and we’ve moved to look into the issue, alongside Roper and Fanatics.
We believe, having already done some initial and detailed exploratory work, that the new kit will feature a darker shade – and one seen by our fanbase as a more genuine claret colour."
Yeah I suspect this will mean going a few shades darker than the pantone Edvard posted earlier in the thread. If you go here - https://www.colorhexa.com/7f1734 - you can get loads of info about it and if you scroll down there's a 'shades and tints' section. I suspect they'll move 2-3 to the left as those are more like the older kits that people refer back to.
Big Fat's Ron's #7f1734 Color Hex and Blue Army
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Wasn't our very early kit described as 'chocolate'?
1886 apparently.
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Steve Bruce...chocolate army.
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Villa and chocolate ? Aren't we going off topic now? :)
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Villa and chocolate ? Aren't we going off topic now? :)
Quite. Let's get back to Bruce and fudge.
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It's after eight now so I thought there's bounty be some response by now - but not a ripple
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I heard a Wispa that we'll see the new kit soon, but they could be telling Yorkies.
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Steve Bruce...chocolate army.
Melt under heat!! ha ha
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I heard a Wispa that we'll see the new kit soon, but they could be telling Yorkies.
For fcuk Flake!
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It's been a Marathon season.
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It’ll have the best Lion Bar none, on the shirt.
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What have I done.
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We are getting off topic here , come on lets give the thread a boost
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You’re on your toblerone with this one.
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I hope not, the away kit was Ok but the home kit with stripes and pink I find an abomination.
Primark pyjamas
He was saying all the right things about how he loved the colours etc. until he mentioned that kit as one of his favourites, at which point I thought "oh shit". Not only hideous but not a proper Villa shirt. Claret body blue sleeves for me every time. It's part of who we are.
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I think we need a "Time Out" from these chocolate gags. I may blow a Fuse....
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Come on you Lions!
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Perhaps he meant the green & black kit.
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Twix one and t'other this has been a good punathon.
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I just hope the new kit-katches on but it's too curly early to say.
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Has the jokes thread been moved ? ;D
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How long is this going to go on for?
I wasn't expecting a marathon
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I think you just gave it a boost.
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Getting back on Topic, I have to say that I don't care who designs it, or makes it, what I'm concerned about is that the kit represents the club in the best way.
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I'm looking forward to the launch. All those pictures of people giving it a Twirl.
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Yep - really looking forward to seeing a new swiss kit!
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There will be hundreds and thousands buying it!
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How long is this going to go on for?
I wasn't expecting a marathon
snicker
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It'll have a claret body and blue arms. It's Bounty.
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Villa are the Lion Bar of chocolate
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How long is this going to go on for?
I wasn't expecting a marathon
I know, this chocolate diversion Mars what would otherwise be a perfectly sensible thread.
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I reckon we’ll have the best kit around Bar Six others.
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Chocolate Villa shirts are the best. I should cocoa.
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Can't wait to see it in the kit catalogue.
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I've heard a Wispa that Dwight Yorkie is going to be announced as new manager this Weekend
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There's more chance of liife on Mars than this punathon ending.
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My sources tell me the home kit is a Polo neck
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We have to hope the designers are real smarties.
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I genuinely don't think I can take any Moro this.
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It's certainly no Picnic.
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I reckon we’ll have the best kit around Bar Six others.
Never heard of that one.
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I love the Hummel kit, as worn by Spinksy, Birchy, Caramacinally..
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I reckon we’ll have the best kit around Bar Six others.
Never heard of that one.
They were probably in ration packs in the war or something.
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Love it when our threads go spectacularly off Topic.
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We will all Revel in the Baggies demise tomorrow as we see Time Out in the final minutes - followed by a Ripple of applause at the final whistle
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Daim, I'm sure Newcastle will be Chomp-ing at the bit. It's going be Kinder sad to be a baggies fan tomorrow.
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There will certainly be Celebrations!
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Oreo, Terry’s on Tinder...
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I obviously didnt eat or buy enough chocolate in my youth.....are there any chocolate puns left in the galaxy ??
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There's more chance of liife on Mars than this punathon ending.
Don't get your Snickers in a twist.
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Love it when our threads go spectacularly off Topic.
Consider my cap being doffed sir.
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It texan huge effort to get this thread back on tracker!
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Love it when our threads go spectacularly off Topic.
Consider my cap being doffed sir.
I did the Topic pun earlier, obviously far too subtle.
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Whatever the kit looks like, we'll all have happy memories of it if we Rolo over the opposition in it next season.
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Does anybody over the age of 10 find these pages of puns funny ?
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Love it when our threads go spectacularly off Topic.
Consider my cap being doffed sir.
I did the Topic pun earlier, obviously far too subtle.
err I was first !!
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Does anybody over the age of 10 find these pages of puns funny ?
I’m a-Fred(I)do
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Love it when our threads go spectacularly off Topic.
Consider my cap being doffed sir.
I did the Topic pun earlier, obviously far too subtle.
err I was first !!
Arguing about who was first with a chocolate pun is going to take us down a rocky road.
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It's a Treet!
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Love it when our threads go spectacularly off Topic.
Consider my cap being doffed sir.
I did the Topic pun earlier, obviously far too subtle.
err I was first !!
Arguing about who was first with a chocolate pun is going to take us down a rocky road.
sorry but I must revel in my glory
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Love it when our threads go spectacularly off Topic.
Consider my cap being doffed sir.
I did the Topic pun earlier, obviously far too subtle.
Er excuse me Mr Drummond .....May I refer you to page 12 and an earlier Topic mention :) Aztec that as a minor victory lol
And Villa Mole please note Revel has also been mentioned :)
I do enjoy a good punathon, thankfully we have been spared chocolate fingers
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Does anybody over the age of 10 find these pages of puns funny ?
I suggest a time out.
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Does anybody over the age of 10 find these pages of puns funny ?
I do, and I’m After Eight.
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'Edvard and the Pantones' were one of the support bands on the recent tour by 'African Car Reverser'
Is that the Edvard who shit on his business partner?
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My sources tell me the home kit is a Polo neck
You’re being a Smartie again. Why change the habit of a lifetime?
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My sources tell me the home kit is a Polo neck
You’re being a Smartie again. Why change the habit of a lifetime?
How do you pronounce your username?
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My sources tell me the home kit is a Polo neck
You’re being a Smartie again. Why change the habit of a lifetime?
How do you pronounce your username?
What concern is it of yours?
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My sources tell me the home kit is a Polo neck
You’re being a Smartie again. Why change the habit of a lifetime?
Your coming across as a sour jelly baby. Wispa it... but nobody likes you
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My sources tell me the home kit is a Polo neck
You’re being a Smartie again. Why change the habit of a lifetime?
How do you pronounce your username?
What concern is it of yours?
Is it 'Ayup' as in the letter 'A', or 'Ayup' as in 'eye'? PM me if it's a sensitive topic to discuss on the thread! ありがとうございました
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Come on Ayup. Hurry up. I haven't got all day.
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I think it's "A" for Australia, and "yup" for the answer to the question "have you been banned from this site several times before?"
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'Edvard and the Pantones' were one of the support bands on the recent tour by 'African Car Reverser'
Is that the Edvard who shit on his business partner?
I think Edvard would tend to offer the exact opposite.
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The other week, when the end of the Under Armour deal was announced, didn't Dr T suggest that the new deal would directly benefit the fans? Did I imagine this or am I still waiting like everyone else to learn what exactly this benefit will be?
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Did he use the singular or plural? One Villa fan is going to definitely benefit from it.
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Did he use the singular or plural? One Villa fan is going to definitely benefit from it.
Maybe his dependents are Villa fans too?
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Did he use the singular or plural? One Villa fan is going to definitely benefit from it.
I didn't imagine it'd be one fan but maybe my mind it playing tricks on me.
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Well before jumping to conclusions lets wait to see once the kit is finally revealed and what it actually means for fans. I'm delighted that it is being made by an actual fan, but hopefully there is something being given back as part of the overall partnership. Be it specific to benefit supporters or broadly speaking like an environmental initiative or similar. It was very deliberately mentioned so there has to be something in it.
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Come on Ayup. Hurry up. I haven't got all day.
どういたしまして
It ay eye.
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My sources tell me the home kit is a Polo neck
You’re being a Smartie again. Why change the habit of a lifetime?
Your coming across as a sour jelly baby. Wispa it... but nobody likes you
Ever tried a gobstopper? It would do us all a favour.
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Ever tried a gobstopper? It would do us all a favour.
You're not exactly making friends with that kind of approach.
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I'm delighted that it is being made by an actual fan, but hopefully there is something being given back as part of the overall partnership.
Quite right. Otherwise how Dairy Milk it?
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I'm delighted that it is being made by an actual fan, but hopefully there is something being given back as part of the overall partnership.
Quite right. Otherwise how Dairy Milk it?
Excellent work.
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Getting noticed.
https://www.bloomberg.com/gadfly/articles/2018-04-30/adidas-and-nike-have-a-new-rival-on-the-soccer-pitch
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I'm delighted that it is being made by an actual fan, but hopefully there is something being given back as part of the overall partnership.
Quite right. Otherwise how Dairy Milk it?
All part of Luke’s Mars-terplan
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I hope with this deal the shirt becomes cheaper for the fans we get better coverage and the club makes more out of it
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I hope with this deal the shirt becomes cheaper for the fans we get better coverage and the club makes more out of it
I wouldn't hold my breath on that one.
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I hope with this deal the shirt becomes cheaper for the fans we get better coverage and the club makes more out of it
I wouldn't hold my breath on that one.
hope springs eternal
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I hope with this deal the shirt becomes cheaper for the fans we get better coverage and the club makes more out of it
And while we're at it, it should be interwoven with gold, it should make all of our players run twice as fast, and Kate Beckinsale should deliver a copy to my house in her undercrackers!!
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Good read that Bloomberg article. Let's hope it works!
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I hope with this deal the shirt becomes cheaper for the fans we get better coverage and the club makes more out of it
And while we're at it, it should be interwoven with gold, it should make all of our players run twice as fast, and Kate Beckinsale should deliver a copy to my house in her undercrackers!!
I'll send her round after she's made me a cup of tea!
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I hope with this deal the shirt becomes cheaper for the fans we get better coverage and the club makes more out of it
And while we're at it, it should be interwoven with gold, it should make all of our players run twice as fast, and Kate Beckinsale should deliver a copy to my house in her undercrackers!!
I'll send her round after she's made me a cup of tea!
Have a word with her will you? She put the milk in first...
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Good read that Bloomberg article. Let's hope it works!
For those of us not too familiar with how such deals work, will there be any significant benefits for the club? From what I have read, there seems to be some cost saving in that Fanatics are to take on the operation in it's entirety and having a fan of the club design the kit means that it should hopefully keep to the traditions of the club, but apart from that?
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Sounds a good deal to me and as Luke Roper is a Villa fan, I take it we will be going back to wearing the traditional CLARET shirts.
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Getting noticed.
https://www.bloomberg.com/gadfly/articles/2018-04-30/adidas-and-nike-have-a-new-rival-on-the-soccer-pitch
The author being a Villa fan himself.
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'Edvard and the Pantones' were one of the support bands on the recent tour by 'African Car Reverser'
Is that the Edvard who shit on his business partner?
You are welcome to explain how I did that, thank you.
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'Edvard and the Pantones' were one of the support bands on the recent tour by 'African Car Reverser'
Is that the Edvard who shit on his business partner?
You are welcome to explain how I did that, thank you.
Dirty boy!
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'Edvard and the Pantones' were one of the support bands on the recent tour by 'African Car Reverser'
Is that the Edvard who shit on his business partner?
You are welcome to explain how I did that, thank you.
Dirty boy!
Guess someone was into coprophagia
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That was the sister brand to Robe Di Kappa
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'Edvard and the Pantones' were one of the support bands on the recent tour by 'African Car Reverser'
Is that the Edvard who shit on his business partner?
You are welcome to explain how I did that, thank you.
Dirty boy!
Guess someone was into coprophagia
Are you Steve Harrison and was your business partner a paper cup?
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Are you Steve Harrison and was your business partner a paper cup?
Just because Villa are shit in the cup Steve, doesn't mean you have to copy them.
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'Edvard and the Pantones' were one of the support bands on the recent tour by 'African Car Reverser'
Is that the Edvard who shit on his business partner?
You are welcome to explain how I did that, thank you.
Dirty boy!
Guess someone was into coprophagia
Isn't that the capital of Denmark?
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I'm sure I had three pints of that last night?
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'Edvard and the Pantones' were one of the support bands on the recent tour by 'African Car Reverser'
Is that the Edvard who shit on his business partner?
You are welcome to explain how I did that, thank you.
Dirty boy!
Guess someone was into coprophagia
Isn't that the capital of Denmark?
To put it politely, fuck off.😉
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'Edvard and the Pantones' were one of the support bands on the recent tour by 'African Car Reverser'
Is that the Edvard who shit on his business partner?
You are welcome to explain how I did that, thank you.
Dirty boy!
Guess someone was into coprophagia
Isn't that the film where Phil Daniels shags a bird up an alley in Brighton then nicks Sting's Vespa?
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Do we know when it's being released yet?
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Our contract with Underarmour doesn’t run out till May 31st, so it won’t be before then.
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Underarmpit kids' kits going for 12 quid on the Villa site yesyterday
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Underarmpit kids' kits going for 12 quid on the Villa site yesyterday
They'd have to pay me to wear their trophy-hunt supporting shite!
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I think it's "A" for Australia, and "yup" for the answer to the question "have you been banned from this site several times before?"
Have you reached the stage where most of the other mods don’t think you’re a twat?
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I think it's "A" for Australia, and "yup" for the answer to the question "have you been banned from this site several times before?"
Have you reached the stage where most of the other mods don’t think you’re a twat?
Hahah this is a great comeback in fairness.
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I think it's "A" for Australia, and "yup" for the answer to the question "have you been banned from this site several times before?"
Have you reached the stage where most of the other mods don’t think you’re a twat?
Hahah this is a great comeback in fairness.
It really isn't.
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I think it's "A" for Australia, and "yup" for the answer to the question "have you been banned from this site several times before?"
Have you reached the stage where most of the other mods don’t think you’re a twat?
Hahah this is a great comeback in fairness.
Most of the mods detest him.
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I think it's "A" for Australia, and "yup" for the answer to the question "have you been banned from this site several times before?"
Have you reached the stage where most of the other mods don’t think you’re a twat?
Hahah this is a great comeback in fairness.
It really isn't.
Well everything is subjective I suppose. On the other hand I don't think you'd know one if you saw it.
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I think it's "A" for Australia, and "yup" for the answer to the question "have you been banned from this site several times before?"
Have you reached the stage where most of the other mods don’t think you’re a twat?
Hahah this is a great comeback in fairness.
Most of the mods detest him.
Who? Sting, in Coprophagia?
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I think it's "A" for Australia, and "yup" for the answer to the question "have you been banned from this site several times before?"
Have you reached the stage where most of the other mods don’t think you’re a twat?
Hahah this is a great comeback in fairness.
It really isn't.
Well everything is subjective I suppose. On the other hand I don't think you'd know one if you saw it.
That Dave from Bath has been a snide for years. The other mods hate him and it’s time he was told.
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I think it's "A" for Australia, and "yup" for the answer to the question "have you been banned from this site several times before?"
Have you reached the stage where most of the other mods don’t think you’re a twat?
Hahah this is a great comeback in fairness.
It really isn't.
Well everything is subjective I suppose. On the other hand I don't think you'd know one if you saw it.
That Dave from Bath has been a snide for years. The other mods hate him and it’s time he was told.
Hmmm. You're on your own!
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Amazing how many people that don't like this site can't stay away from it.
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Amazing how many people that don't like this site can't stay away from it.
Hindsight & Vitriol. They're like drugs
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Amazing how many people that don't like this site can't stay away from it.
Must be something to do with the clique who piss so many people off.
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And yet here you are, again. If you don't like the site, don't keep registering for it.
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Amazing how many people that don't like this site can't stay away from it.
Must be something to do with the clique who piss so many people off.
29 years and counting. Not bad considering how many people hate us.
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I think it's "A" for Australia, and "yup" for the answer to the question "have you been banned from this site several times before?"
Have you reached the stage where most of the other mods don’t think you’re a twat?
Hahah this is a great comeback in fairness.
It really isn't.
Well everything is subjective I suppose. On the other hand I don't think you'd know one if you saw it.
There's a lot of things I can recognise.
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Amazing how many people that don't like this site can't stay away from it.
Must be something to do with the clique who piss so many people off.
29 years and counting. Not bad considering how many people hate us.
Most of your posters are fine but there are some who seem to escape being banned but continue to be arseholes. Everyone knows who they are.
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Amazing how many people that don't like this site can't stay away from it.
Must be something to do with the clique who piss so many people off.
29 years and counting. Not bad considering how many people hate us.
Most of your posters are fine but there are some who seem to escape being banned but continue to be arseholes. Everyone knows who they are.
And there's one arsehole who's been banned at least a dozen times but keeps coming back.
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You could say the same about some of the ones that have been banned numerous times as well.
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You could say the same about some of the ones that have been banned numerous times as well.
There are hundreds of people who hate the clique on this site. They don’t even know about the shit spoken about them in the secret forums. The same names get mentioned over and over again.
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You could say the same about some of the ones that have been banned numerous times as well.
There are hundreds of people who hate the clique on this site. They don’t even know about the shit spoken about them in the secret forums. The same names get mentioned over and over again.
I don’t get it. Why are you still here? Surely if it bothers you so much or certain posters do, just go somewhere else.
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I wish I had a pound for every time I'd read how many people hate this site. I could probably afford to go to Australia.
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And yet you hate it so much you have registered yet again.
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You could say the same about some of the ones that have been banned numerous times as well.
There are hundreds of people who hate the clique on this site. They don’t even know about the shit spoken about them in the secret forums. The same names get mentioned over and over again.
I don’t get it. Why are you still here? Surely if it bothers you so much or certain posters do, just go somewhere else.
I had no idea what a dreadful site it was. You have confirmed it, being one of its most unpopular posters.
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You could say the same about some of the ones that have been banned numerous times as well.
There are hundreds of people who hate the clique on this site. They don’t even know about the shit spoken about them in the secret forums. The same names get mentioned over and over again.
I don’t get it. Why are you still here? Surely if it bothers you so much or certain posters do, just go somewhere else.
I had no idea what a dreadful site it was. You have confirmed it, being one of its most unpopular posters.
But you do know how dreadful it is. You've been on here often enough.
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Didn't one of your numerous previous bans give it away?
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So, now you know what a dreadful site it is, if we ban you yet again you won't be registering again will you?
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So, now you know what a dreadful site it is, if we ban you yet again you won't be registering again will you?
First time on here but I was warned about the clique.
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So, now you know what a dreadful site it is, if we ban you yet again you won't be registering again will you?
First time on here but I was warned about the clique.
And yet you still plunged in headfirst regardless.
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So even if we believe that, we don't, as it's so dreadful why are you still here? Click that little "X" and you'll never have to see this dreadful place again. But you can't do it can you, same as you couldn't do it numerous times previously.
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So even if we believe that, we don't, as it's so dreadful why are you still here? Click that little "X" and you'll never have to see this dreadful place again. But you can't do it can you, same as you couldn't do it numerous times previously.
You must recognise how so many have been bullied out of the site. You’ve got that happy clappy pair who talk crap before and after most games.
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Port Douglas is still saved into my phone as one of my weather slots from when I was last in Queensland.
Half 9 in the morning and the first thing you can think of is to log onto a site that you've been banned from numerous times to talk about a none existent clique.
How sad or bitter do you have to be to still be cut up about being banned from a small fanzine site 10 years ago. Move on.
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Well I am surprised you're still here.
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Just click that "logout" option and you can leave this dreadful place for good. It really is that simple. If you actually wanted to leave.
(https://thumb.ibb.co/g0Md4S/31946331_1543284295794136_4273099276738887680_n.png) (https://ibb.co/g0Md4S)
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Port Douglas is still saved into my phone as one of my weather slots from when I was last in Queensland.
Half 9 in the morning and the first thing you can think of is to log onto a site that you've been banned from numerous times to talk about a none existent clique.
How sad or bitter do you have to be to still be cut up about being banned from a small fanzine site 10 years ago. Move on.
Were your ears burning?
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May 2011 he was banned. 7 years on...still coming back. Get a grip and move on or just apologise for whatever it was that made you the "Banned user is a twat" and crack on posting.
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Port Douglas is still saved into my phone as one of my weather slots from when I was last in Queensland.
Half 9 in the morning and the first thing you can think of is to log onto a site that you've been banned from numerous times to talk about a none existent clique.
How sad or bitter do you have to be to still be cut up about being banned from a small fanzine site 10 years ago. Move on.
Were your ears burning?
Troy I believe the only time we've interacted was your failed attempt to try and catch me out over Millwall. I'm not sure what your problem is really, I'm not really sure it's worth being pissy about 7 years after your first ban is it?
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You could say the same about some of the ones that have been banned numerous times as well.
There are hundreds of people who hate the clique on this site. They don’t even know about the shit spoken about them in the secret forums. The same names get mentioned over and over again.
I don’t get it. Why are you still here? Surely if it bothers you so much or certain posters do, just go somewhere else.
I had no idea what a dreadful site it was. You have confirmed it, being one of its most unpopular posters.
You’ve completely missed the irony of your post. I post on here because I like it here. Regardless of my popularity. You post on here despite being hated and hating it. Take a long look in the mirror as to how pathetic you are.
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I think it's "A" for Australia, and "yup" for the answer to the question "have you been banned from this site several times before?"
Have you reached the stage where most of the other mods don’t think you’re a twat?
Hahah this is a great comeback in fairness.
Most of the mods detest him.
You really are a sad bastard.
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I think I've been posting on H&V since about 2005, I've never had an issue with cliques. A bunch of Villa fans decide to make a fanzine and forum to talk about their - passion, hardly a clique. Just sod whatever's gone on and talk about the Villa, easy!
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Oh come on, let’s just admit that there’s a clique so that he can move on. We all meet on Brian Green’s farm, naked and sweating, to slap each other with our balls while a goat is bummed by Bono, who is out of order.
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You have to feed a beef burger to a swan to get in.
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The swans don’t have hind legs because of all the chemicals we put in their chips.
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What annoys me most about cliques is people who call them clicks.
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If your opinion is there is a clique here and you don't like it, why are you here?
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So even if we believe that, we don't, as it's so dreadful why are you still here? Click that little "X" and you'll never have to see this dreadful place again. But you can't do it can you, same as you couldn't do it numerous times previously.
You must recognise how so many have been bullied out of the site. You’ve got that happy clappy pair who talk crap before and after most games.
Why don't you go and try to build your own forum? I'm sure it'll be hugely popular with all those who've been 'bullied out of the site'.
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What annoys me most about cliques is people who call them clicks.
What bothers me is am I in the click?
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What annoys me most about cliques is people who call them clicks.
What bothers me is am I in the click?
No, but you can be in my Magic Circle, very exclusive, only one member.
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So...the kit better be claret this year!
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What annoys me most about cliques is people who call them clicks.
What bothers me is am I in the click?
No, but you can be in my Magic Circle, very exclusive, only one member.
As long as you don’t call it The Magic Circle. They get very pissy about that lol
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What annoys me most about cliques is people who call them clicks.
What bothers me is am I in the click?
No, but you can be in my Magic Circle, very exclusive, only one member.
As long as you don’t call it The Magic Circle. They get very pissy about that lol
So where do I click to get in this clique? Is there a Magic Circle icon???
All these things I never knew!
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You have to feed a beef burger to a swan to get in.
in a cob of course?
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Cliquey wankers
No kit news then ::)
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You have to feed a beef burger to a swan to get in.
in a cob of course?
Very classy punning.
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Hopefully when it comes to the crunchie that Luke will have some Twix up his sleeve to make a decent kitkat
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If this is genuine, it looks good.
https://mobile.twitter.com/footballlover63/status/1005001937278861313/photo/1
Now, do we have a team to wear it?
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If this is genuine, it looks good.
https://mobile.twitter.com/footballlover63/status/1005001937278861313/photo/1
Now, do we have a team to wear it?
Wouldn't it have the fanatics logo on if it was legit, and I thought the sponsor normally had green lettering. However nice looking top!
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If this is genuine, it looks good.
https://mobile.twitter.com/footballlover63/status/1005001937278861313/photo/1
Now, do we have a team to wear it?
Nice shade of claret
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If this is genuine, it looks good.
https://mobile.twitter.com/footballlover63/status/1005001937278861313/photo/1
Now, do we have a team to wear it?
Wouldn't it have the fanatics logo on if it was legit, and I thought the sponsor normally had green lettering. However nice looking top!
fanatics are a manufacturer. when they make clothes for nike it is nike's logo on the shirt
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I thought I read on here recently that Unibet won’t be our sponsor next season as it was only a one year deal. If so, that would appear to be a fake?
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Didn't I read on here that Recon was planned to be the shirt sponsor next season?
Hope we havent spent that fucking money as well.
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I think it's fake. Our design apparently is more akin to 82-83.
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The nerds are always busy at this time of year knocking up new shirts to put on the internet.
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Where's Marshall?
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If this is genuine, it looks good.
https://mobile.twitter.com/footballlover63/status/1005001937278861313/photo/1
Now, do we have a team to wear it?
That is a thing of beauty - proper claret, proper blue, proper places. I do hope it's the real thing but suspect we will have another purple and lilac fiasco.
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With respect to everyone who has posted on this thread, the kit seems the least of our problems next season, at this point in time. The biggest issues appear to be whether 1. We’ll have any players to wear it and, 2. If we’ll have any money to pay their stupid fkn wages.
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With respect to everyone who has posted on this thread, the kit seems the least of our problems next season, at this point in time. The biggest issues appear to be whether 1. We’ll have any players to wear it and, 2. If we’ll have any money to pay their stupid fkn wages.
That's why it's a separate thread. There's no need for it to be all doom and gloom.
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With respect robbo, this is a kit thread. There are plenty of threads in which we can worry about our impending Villageddon.
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If this is genuine, it looks good.
https://mobile.twitter.com/footballlover63/status/1005001937278861313/photo/1
Now, do we have a team to wear it?
That is a thing of beauty - proper claret, proper blue, proper places. I do hope it's the real thing but suspect we will have another purple and lilac fiasco.
Why will it? Surely if Villa fans are designing the kit it will be the right colours. The last thing they will want is to get something so fundamental wrong on their first go.
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Also if the kit is really good it might sell more and boost revenues.
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It's fake, even says designed by... on the side.
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Are we sticking with Unibet?
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If this is genuine, it looks good.
https://mobile.twitter.com/footballlover63/status/1005001937278861313/photo/1
Now, do we have a team to wear it?
That is a thing of beauty - proper claret, proper blue, proper places. I do hope it's the real thing but suspect we will have another purple and lilac fiasco.
Why will it? Surely if Villa fans are designing the kit it will be the right colours. The last thing they will want is to get something so fundamental wrong on their first go.
Well whenever the colours have been questioned at the forums the stock response has been something about a colour template or pallette or whatever it's called. Even thought it's clearly wrong. Unless that has been dispensed with, I don't see how the kit will suddenly revert to proper claret and blue.
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If this is genuine, it looks good.
https://mobile.twitter.com/footballlover63/status/1005001937278861313/photo/1
Now, do we have a team to wear it?
That is a thing of beauty - proper claret, proper blue, proper places. I do hope it's the real thing but suspect we will have another purple and lilac fiasco.
Why will it? Surely if Villa fans are designing the kit it will be the right colours. The last thing they will want is to get something so fundamental wrong on their first go.
Well whenever the colours have been questioned at the forums the stock response has been something about a colour template or pallette or whatever it's called. Even thought it's clearly wrong. Unless that has been dispensed with, I don't see how the kit will suddenly revert to proper claret and blue.
The fella from Luke is a Villa fan and has said he is determined to get the colours right. Of course what 'right' is can be pretty subjective.
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Burnley don’t seem to have a problem with their kit manufacturer’s making a claret coloured shirt.
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Are we sticking with Unibet?
Would you Unibet against us?
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Burnley don’t seem to have a problem with their kit manufacturer’s making a claret coloured shirt.
The blue on the west ham one is a shocker.
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Are we sticking with Unibet?
Poundland
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Burnley don’t seem to have a problem with their kit manufacturer’s making a claret coloured shirt.
must say West hams new kit is awful
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If this is genuine, it looks good.
https://mobile.twitter.com/footballlover63/status/1005001937278861313/photo/1
Now, do we have a team to wear it?
That is a thing of beauty - proper claret, proper blue, proper places. I do hope it's the real thing but suspect we will have another purple and lilac fiasco.
Why will it? Surely if Villa fans are designing the kit it will be the right colours. The last thing they will want is to get something so fundamental wrong on their first go.
Well whenever the colours have been questioned at the forums the stock response has been something about a colour template or pallette or whatever it's called. Even thought it's clearly wrong. Unless that has been dispensed with, I don't see how the kit will suddenly revert to proper claret and blue.
The fella from Luke is a Villa fan and has said he is determined to get the colours right. Of course what 'right' is can be pretty subjective.
Let's hope so. But he is also supposedly a fan of that hideous half and half kit we had around 1984. Not sure whether it's a good or bad development having him on board.
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If that is the new kit it looks nice. Colours look good too. The only thing that spoils it for me is the badge. We need to rid ourselves of that God awful Lerner/Xia era badge asap.
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If we become a phoenix club: let's have the rampant lion rising out of the flames...in a round badge! :)
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Save money, play in "skins" and possibly a rush back goalkeeper.
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If that is the new kit it looks nice. Colours look good too. The only thing that spoils it for me is the badge. We need to rid ourselves of that God awful Lerner/Xia era badge asap.
In the grand scheme of things the badge is trivial. However all I now associate it with is disappointment and failure. For me too, the quicker we get rid of it the better.
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I agree with you. It is trivial, it's just that every time I see it, it reminds me of Lerner and now Xia. Get rid.
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Whilst i'd love a return to the old badge, the cost of doing the whole rebrand would be a complete waste of money right now.
Also, whilst i have a great affinity with that old round crest and 'proper' claret and blue, hardly anyone under the age of thirty could give two fucks.
Same with when i start moaning about non 3pm Saturday kick offs. Ask anyone under 30 and they don't know what the heck your moaning about.
I think we need to accept we're old farts and let things be on that score.
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Thought I could maybe cheer myself up with a glance at the new kit. Is that it?! All the pomp and circumstance and it looks, well, the same as before but with some weird pattern and a half rate 'fashion' label sewn on. I'm utterly underwhelmed.
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Thought I could maybe cheer myself up with a glance at the new kit. Is that it?! All the pomp and circumstance and it looks, well, the same as before but with some weird pattern and a half rate 'fashion' label sewn on. I'm utterly underwhelmed.
Where ???
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Thought I could maybe cheer myself up with a glance at the new kit. Is that it?! All the pomp and circumstance and it looks, well, the same as before but with some weird pattern and a half rate 'fashion' label sewn on. I'm utterly underwhelmed.
The ones in this thread are fan mock ups.
With that said, I'm not quite sure what you are expecting, but if you are utterly underwhelmed by a claret body and blue arms then I suspect you will be disappointed when it is released.
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It's an internet mock-up with no suggestion that it's based on the real thing. That said if it was real it would be the best kit we've had for years so I'm not sure what there is to complain about.
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OK cool, yes I was expecting claret body and blue sleeves funnily enough but it's still pretty uninspiring - given the fanfare that came with this. And, personally, I don't like the tacky link-up with Luke 1977. But that's just my opinion. I'm not complaining as such, I just suspected it wouldn't be all that, and it isn't (in my opinion).
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OK cool, yes I was expecting claret body and blue sleeves funnily enough but it's still pretty uninspiring - given the fanfare that came with this. And, personally, I don't like the tacky link-up with Luke 1977. But that's just my opinion. I'm not complaining as such, I just suspected it wouldn't be all that, and it isn't (in my opinion).
Why's the link up tacky? I've honestly not seen anyone else make that suggestion. More accurately what makes it tackier than taking a template from some like Nike or Adidas and wearing what is effectively a colour swap of a champions league team?
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Sorry didn't mean to sound like the archetypal Villa moaner, Paul, it's just that this subject is fairly close to my heart. I am just saying from a personal view. I don't like their logo. I don't like the brand. I wouldn't buy the clothing. I get what you're saying - agree with the sentiment of not using Nike or any of the massive manufacturers because they didn't have the time for a little club like us - and we ended up with a template kit but I am just not that excited about this. It just feels a bit small time. It is a damn shame we didn't have something similar going on with Harry Parkes, when we had the chance - now that would have oozed class.
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(https://thumb.ibb.co/j8zh3T/Villa_Badge.png) (https://ibb.co/j8zh3T)
Plus I'd have this on it, but now is not the time.
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Sorry didn't mean to sound like the archetypal Villa moaner, Paul, it's just that this subject is fairly close to my heart. I am just saying from a personal view. I don't like their logo. I don't like the brand. I wouldn't buy the clothing. I get what you're saying - agree with the sentiment of not using Nike or any of the massive manufacturers because they didn't have the time for a little club like us - and we ended up with a template kit but I am just not that excited about this. It just feels a bit small time. It is a damn shame we didn't have something similar going on with Harry Parkes, when we had the chance - now that would have oozed class.
I would have preferred us to partner with Off-White or Bathing Ape.
(I have no idea either it’s what the kids want) proppa urban
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I was thinking Bewise, C&A or Foster's Menswear. Are Mark One still going?
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At this rate we'll need 2018 putting on the badge. Sad face.
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(https://thumb.ibb.co/j8zh3T/Villa_Badge.png) (https://ibb.co/j8zh3T)
Plus I'd have this on it, but now is not the time.
Remove star, gold lion, gold 1874 and that's the one.
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The star looks like the lion has just "laid a warm egg". Lovely badge otherwise!
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So when is the kit to be launched?
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With the friendlies being mid July I’d expect the kits to be ready by then. I’ve heard he’s got the keys to the shop as it were so should be some movement in the next week or so.
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(https://thumb.ibb.co/j8zh3T/Villa_Badge.png) (https://ibb.co/j8zh3T)
Plus I'd have this on it, but now is not the time.
Remove star, gold lion, gold 1874 and that's the one.
Need to put Ill-Prepared on there somewhere.
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A shot of the back the collar from the OS
(https://d16b4kgyytl7c7.cloudfront.net/~/media/KitMcGregorUpdate.ashx?la=en&vs=1&d=20180620T154753Z&hash=0BB49835631314A39F4773C821D0C401DE34BE14)
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If I didn't know better I'd say that looks like somebody serving a court order.
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Or the label off a bottle of vintage Port.
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it looks CLARET!
nice touch with old William as well
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Is it a prediction of how many years it will be before we're a top flight club again?
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Is it a prediction of how many years it will be before we're a top flight club again?
Maybe the number of days left in existence.
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A shot of the back the collar from the OS
(https://d16b4kgyytl7c7.cloudfront.net/~/media/KitMcGregorUpdate.ashx?la=en&vs=1&d=20180620T154753Z&hash=0BB49835631314A39F4773C821D0C401DE34BE14)
What a great alternative logo that McGregor symbol is. I hope it's been copyrighted and registered by the Club.
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YOU SHALL NOT PASS!
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I have always thought if McGregor was linked with United then sky would make sure the world knew. As it is us the importance of the man's achievements are deemed irrelevant.
Fair play whoever's idea it was to incorporate it into the kit
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Is it a prediction of how many years it will be before we're a top flight club again?
Maybe the number of days left in existence.
The number of pounds left in this months bank account.
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It's the Peaky Blinder's foe, Major Chester Campbell with a warrant to raid the Club.
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The casual wear range looks interesting....
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The casual wear range looks interesting....
"Chav-ual wear range"
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I quite like the icon, but I don't like the arbitrary celebration of a 130th Anniversary. Unless you're talking about marriages or Doctor Who, only anniversaries in multiples of fifty or a hundred are worthy of commemoration. Maybe twenty-fives at a push.
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In this case I don't mind it, if it's ever mentioned in the media, them explaining what it means etc, then it will be a reminder to everyone that we invented league football, not Sky.
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(https://images.kitlocker-media.com/ECOM/images/stories/virtuemart/product/EDM98-BOLD-BLUE-WHITE-CAT(1)-POS(0)-RAND(086yr).jpg)
(http://www.footballshirtculture.com/images/2018/birmingham_city_18_19_adidas_home_kit.jpg)
Hahahahahahahahahaha!
Cheap as chips! (https://www.kitlocker.com/brand-ranges/adidas/adidas-regista-18/adidas-regista-18-short-sleeve-shirt-bold-blue-white-ksfd2-p)
£14.96 for the plain one, or spend an extra £30 to have 888 and a shit badge on the front......
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Although we are not in any position to gloat about them fuckers - imagine instead of having a design specific for you we were having to adopt a Sunday morning kit supplier as your own shirt
That is really small time
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Isn’t that the same kit design as Morocco?
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Isn’t that the same kit design as Morocco?
Their away kit, yes.
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Its only a template thing. All the major designers do it. Preston and Tottenham wore the same shirts last season with different shades of blue. Man City and England wore the same tops about two years ago, it was just different colours they could separate them. Our classic bootlace kit of 92-93 also featured in different colours as an Oldham away top and Parma's jersey in the Cup Winners Cup Final of 94. You could buy the claret version (minus the sponsor and club badge) for your school football team as Umbro did designs you could buy that were advertised in Match and Shoot. My mate got one when he couldn't get the official Villa one because they had sold out of them - this was about a year later.
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With the players reporting back to training next week then they will all be wearing the new training gear surely!? Meaning the new kits etc need to be revealed before next week?
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With the players reporting back to training next week then they will all be wearing the new training gear surely!? Meaning the new kits etc need to be revealed before next week?
Yeah. It's set to be modeled by our remaining defence of Easah Suliman, Alan Hutton and Neil Taylor, our midfield of Angela Lansbury and a perennially-injured Andre Green, and our lone striker Scott Hogan. Mark Bunn or coach Gary Walsh in goals.
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Don't forget Gaz Gardner.
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Its only a template thing. All the major designers do it. Preston and Tottenham wore the same shirts last season with different shades of blue. Man City and England wore the same tops about two years ago, it was just different colours they could separate them. Our classic bootlace kit of 92-93 also featured in different colours as an Oldham away top and Parma's jersey in the Cup Winners Cup Final of 94. You could buy the claret version (minus the sponsor and club badge) for your school football team as Umbro did designs you could buy that were advertised in Match and Shoot. My mate got one when he couldn't get the official Villa one because they had sold out of them - this was about a year later.
Didn't the laces Villa top have Villa related patterns in the material etc ... as opposed to just a badge and sponsor on a template kit.
Umbro did use that style of shirt with a lot of teams mind you.
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Don't forget Gaz Gardner.
Gods, how could I forget? #PartOfThePride
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You're so funny!
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You're so funny!
Thanks Drummond
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Does anyone know when the new kit is launched, or are we so skint we will be playing in skins next season?
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Does anyone know when the new kit is launched, or are we so skint we will be playing in skins next season?
All I have found is this from the Birminghambait:
"An exact date has yet to be revealed for the launch of the new kit, deigned by Villa fan Luke Roper, of Luke 1977, but the club have explained it will be in 'early July'."
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Thanks Risso. :)
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Does anyone know when the new kit is launched, or are we so skint we will be playing in skins next season?
All I have found is this from the Birminghambait:
"An exact date has yet to be revealed for the launch of the new kit, deigned by Villa fan Luke Roper, of Luke 1977, but the club have explained it will be in 'early July'."
Once we've decided if we are actually going to play any games of course. We might be extinct before they release it.
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Does anyone know when the new kit is launched, or are we so skint we will be playing in skins next season?
All I have found is this from the Birminghambait:
"An exact date has yet to be revealed for the launch of the new kit, deigned by Villa fan Luke Roper, of Luke 1977, but the club have explained it will be in 'early July'."
Once we've decided if we are actually going to play any games of course. We might be extinct before they release it.
You are so negative :)
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Maybe we should replace the Lion on our badge with a T-Rex then ;)
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Also this:
"Villa will wear their new kit in their first pre-season friendly fixtures at Kidderminster Harriers and Telford on July 14 and it will be revealed ahead of those matches with the official launch event expected to come later."
So presumably any time in the next 11 days, but probably a bit before that. I'll take a stab at a week today, Tuesday 10.
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Tremendous work, as ever, to ensure that we don't bother getting the kits out until at least half of Summer has gone.
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Tremendous work, as ever, to ensure that we don't bother getting the kits out until at least half of Summer has gone.
Yes I thought that was one of the reasons in the fanfare for going down this route - control of the release/market etc. so quicker to market. I guess Luke Organ is busy running the club.
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At least they’re not doing a cringeworthy festival-style launch this year.
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I don't what the deal between the club, the designer Luke and the manufacturer entails, but I'd imagine there'd be worries abouut getting paid.
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Does anyone know when the new kit is launched, or are we so skint we will be playing in skins next season?
All I have found is this from the Birminghambait:
"An exact date has yet to be revealed for the launch of the new kit, deigned by Villa fan Luke Roper, of Luke 1977, but the club have explained it will be in 'early July'."
Once we've decided if we are actually going to play any games of course. We might be extinct before they release it.
You are so negative :)
He is negative, but can you blame him? Sometimes negativity doesn't sit with an individual, it's institutional. Our club is a fecking joke right now, few could argue that, and acknowledging that and being angry about it is perfectly justified.
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Maybe we should replace the Lion on our badge with a T-Rex then ;)
More like a Dodo
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I don't what the deal between the club, the designer Luke and the manufacturer entails, but I'd imagine there'd be worries abouut getting paid.
Fanatics pay for the cost of manufacturing and distribution. LUKE will be paid under their terms for every unit made and they take a large slice of the profit on sale as they own the logistics and have "in-housed" manufacturing at a local level.
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Does anyone know when the new kit is launched, or are we so skint we will be playing in skins next season?
All I have found is this from the Birminghambait:
"An exact date has yet to be revealed for the launch of the new kit, deigned by Villa fan Luke Roper, of Luke 1977, but the club have explained it will be in 'early July'."
Once we've decided if we are actually going to play any games of course. We might be extinct before they release it.
You are so negative :)
He is negative, but can you blame him? Sometimes negativity doesn't sit with an individual, it's institutional. Our club is a fecking joke right now, few could argue that, and acknowledging that and being angry about it is perfectly justified.
Ha, I was kidding!
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Does anyone know when the new kit is launched, or are we so skint we will be playing in skins next season?
All I have found is this from the Birminghambait:
"An exact date has yet to be revealed for the launch of the new kit, deigned by Villa fan Luke Roper, of Luke 1977, but the club have explained it will be in 'early July'."
Once we've decided if we are actually going to play any games of course. We might be extinct before they release it.
You are so negative :)
He is negative, but can you blame him? Sometimes negativity doesn't sit with an individual, it's institutional. Our club is a fecking joke right now, few could argue that, and acknowledging that and being angry about it is perfectly justified.
Ha, I was kidding!
Oh I got that it was tongue-in-cheek. Just feeling the frustration in here too
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If they haven’t launched any kit or training wear images I guess the return to preseason training website content will stop at players walking across car park :-)
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At least they’re not doing a cringeworthy festival-style launch this year.
I quite liked that. We took a friends lad with us who was a Man You fan at that time. He's now a villa season ticket holder.
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The trainingwear has been previewed on the OS.
New training wear 2018/19: First shots
(https://d3ix52z2istd7h.cloudfront.net/~/media/Traininwear2.ashx?h=720&la=en&mw=1280&w=1280&vs=1&d=20180705T134448Z&hash=FB6590DDE447F32E498D1E6CC19711B066BE731F)
Here’s a further look at the first collection in our trainingwear range for the upcoming 2018/19 campaign.
(https://d3ix52z2istd7h.cloudfront.net/~/media/Traininwear1.ashx?la=en&vs=1&d=20180705T134037Z&hash=C315E10771197E43AAA5A7BFF9341ECB376D0BD8)
This is what the players will be wearing in pre-season – starting at the trip to Portugal and onwards into friendly matches with Telford, Kidderminster, Walsall, Burton Albion, West Ham United and Dynamo Dresden.
The tops are primarily Hawaiian Ocean Blue with a hint of Festival Fuchsia on the cuffs and within a motif on the back.
(https://d3ix52z2istd7h.cloudfront.net/~/media/Traininwear4.ashx?la=en&vs=1&d=20180705T134200Z&hash=F9A6442FFC74A133915578D0638F7C71258EB2C2)
These are more vibrant versions of our famous claret and blue – and have been added to our colour palate for this season and beyond.
They’ve been introduced to offer a more energetic, vocal and radiant feel to our brand guidelines.
The badge across the range is rubberised – it’s our mono crest – black on a Hawaiian Ocean Blue background.
(https://d3ix52z2istd7h.cloudfront.net/~/media/Trainingwear3.ashx?la=en&vs=1&d=20180705T134337Z&hash=268F3CF2C83D4A6D6E69182BB4499B60AD573C16)
The shorts and socks will be black.
The version worn by the first team players will feature the Unibet logo – while those retailed to supporters will be plain.
Stay tuned to our Online Store for details of when products will become available.
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I quite like it, personally.
At least we'll look fairly good when we go into administration.
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IMO looks shit, cheap, Sunday league. Is the colour claret not allowed anymore?
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I’m not sure I want “more vibrant versions of our claret and blue” . I’ll take plain and simple claret and blue if it’s ok with Luke.
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Decent. Appealed to the younger fans i know already. I'm not a big turquoise fan myself though.
Looking forward to the kit now, and the inevitable moans from folks who have no intention of buying it anyway :)
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IMO looks shit, cheap, Sunday league. Is the colour claret not allowed anymore?
Do we need claret on the training kit ? asking for a friend
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I always look forward to a new kit coming out must be all thoughs years of buying them it's been a ritual with me.
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Turquoise doesn't look very slimming to me.
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Decent. Appealed to the younger fans i know already. I'm not a big turquoise fan myself though.
Looking forward to the kit now, and the inevitable moans from folks who have no intention of buying it anyway :)
Don't see what your last point has to do with anything. As a rational consumer I usually have no intention of buying the rip off shit whatever it looks like. I don't see why that should conflict with me also wanting the team to be playing in their traditional colours in the traditional claret body/blue sleeves design.
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Might be just me but despite the space age colours the training tops look quite old school to me, particularly the long sleeve.
I don't hate the design. I do hate the UNIBET font plastered on front but at least it won't be on the retail replicas.
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That looks cack.
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That looks cack.
You don't say.
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It looks like neon Pink and Turquoise like the color highlighters you can buy, absolute fucking rubbish. On the cheap crap design.
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Here's how it will go for the training gear and the kits:
Some will like it
Some will think it's cack
Some will buy it
Some won't buy it
The colours won't be right
The colours will be right
The colours will be fine
Most won't give two fucks
Oh that's probably true for almost everything now and especially internet based opinions.
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Here's how it will go for the training gear and the kits:
Some will like it
Some will think it's cack
Some will buy it
Some won't buy it
The colours won't be right
The colours will be right
The colours will be fine
Most won't give two fucks
Oh that's probably true for almost everything now and especially internet based opinions.
Wear Sunscreen.
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Decent. Appealed to the younger fans i know already. I'm not a big turquoise fan myself though.
Looking forward to the kit now, and the inevitable moans from folks who have no intention of buying it anyway :)
Don't see what your last point has to do with anything. As a rational consumer I usually have no intention of buying the rip off shit whatever it looks like. I don't see why that should conflict with me also wanting the team to be playing in their traditional colours in the traditional claret body/blue sleeves design.
and you have this inside knowledge that we wont be from who ?
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It's a training top. They're usually a different colour anyway. It's amazing what people get worked up over.
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It's a training top. They're usually a different colour anyway. It's amazing what people get worked up over.
it is the only thing we have left to look forward to dag namit
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Am at an age where I can no longer carry off the shirt so I appreciate a coloured polo shirt with a small discreet Villa badge - if the Luke logo has to be included I would prefer it on the back/ nape of neck
Am expecting some Fred Perry like designs - would love to see a powder blue shirt with claret edging to collar and cuffs and maybe a small round badge - if Heineken did Villa polos ............
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Am at an age where I can no longer carry off the shirt so I appreciate a coloured polo shirt with a small discreet Villa badge - if the Luke logo has to be included I would prefer it on the back/ nape of neck
Am expecting some Fred Ferry like designs - would love to see a powder blue shirt with claret edging to collar and cuffs and maybe a small round badge - if Heineken did Villa polos ............
You should float that idea to Luke.
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Am at an age where I can no longer carry off the shirt so I appreciate a coloured polo shirt with a small discreet Villa badge - if the Luke logo has to be included I would prefer it on the back/ nape of neck
Am expecting some Fred Ferry like designs - would love to see a powder blue shirt with claret edging to collar and cuffs and maybe a small round badge - if Heineken did Villa polos ............
You should float that idea to Luke.
trust you to spot that :) Cheers buddy
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It's a training top. They're usually a different colour anyway. It's amazing what people get worked up over.
Is the correct answer 👍 last year’s was grey for example .
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I really don't care about the training gear as long as the actual kit itself looks nice. Can't help thinking however that this move to Luke may not be due to any other reason except that we are now doing things on the cheap.
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I think the training gear looks pretty good (but then I would), and there’s plenty of other training stuff yet to be seen.
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The Unibet font looks like those iron on transfers you could get back in the 70's
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Am at an age where I can no longer carry off the shirt so I appreciate a coloured polo shirt with a small discreet Villa badge - if the Luke logo has to be included I would prefer it on the back/ nape of neck
Am expecting some Fred Perry like designs - would love to see a powder blue shirt with claret edging to collar and cuffs and maybe a small round badge - if Heineken did Villa polos ............
Like this (http://shop.avfc.co.uk/stores/astonvilla/en/product/aston-villa-core-crest-polo---blue-marl---mens/222590?categories=fashion,mens,polos)...
(http://image1.kbobject.com/avfc-222590.jpg?width=250&height=250&quality=80)
...or this (http://shop.avfc.co.uk/stores/astonvilla/en/product/aston-villa-classic-tipped-polo-shirt---sky-blue---mens/205276?categories=fashion,mens,polos)...
(http://image2.kbobject.com/avfc-205276.jpg?width=250&height=250&quality=80)
...by any chance?
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I just dont like the pink on it , look a lot better If it was claret.
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Kits are revealed next Monday 10am and available to buy from 18th July.
https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2018/07/04/park-life-kit-launch-date-training-wear-southgate-guess-who
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Am at an age where I can no longer carry off the shirt so I appreciate a coloured polo shirt with a small discreet Villa badge - if the Luke logo has to be included I would prefer it on the back/ nape of neck
Am expecting some Fred Perry like designs - would love to see a powder blue shirt with claret edging to collar and cuffs and maybe a small round badge - if Heineken did Villa polos ............
Like this (http://shop.avfc.co.uk/stores/astonvilla/en/product/aston-villa-core-crest-polo---blue-marl---mens/222590?categories=fashion,mens,polos)...
(http://image1.kbobject.com/avfc-222590.jpg?width=250&height=250&quality=80)
...or this (http://shop.avfc.co.uk/stores/astonvilla/en/product/aston-villa-classic-tipped-polo-shirt---sky-blue---mens/205276?categories=fashion,mens,polos)...
(http://image2.kbobject.com/avfc-205276.jpg?width=250&height=250&quality=80)
...by any chance?
loving the second one mshurst :)
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loving the second one mshurst :)
A bit pricey at £30 but if that's your thing then they're for sale on the store.
http://shop.avfc.co.uk/stores/astonvilla/en/product/aston-villa-classic-tipped-polo-shirt---sky-blue---mens/205276?categories=fashion,mens,polos
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loving the second one mshurst :)
A bit pricey at £30 but if that's your thing then they're for sale on the store.
http://shop.avfc.co.uk/stores/astonvilla/en/product/aston-villa-classic-tipped-polo-shirt---sky-blue---mens/205276?categories=fashion,mens,polos
thanks buddy - much appreciated
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I really don't care about the training gear as long as the actual kit itself looks nice. Can't help thinking however that this move to Luke may not be due to any other reason except that we are now doing things on the cheap.
How are we doing things on the cheap? Would love to know
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It's really not that hard, Home kit, Claret (thats Villa darker claret, Burnley have a similar claret but not the slightly florescent one West Ham wear) light blue sleeves, White shorts, light blue socks with claret and white trim. Away kit ideally white shirt, light blue shorts and white or claret socks. 3rd kit do what you like. Training kit do what you like.
Bingo.
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It's really not that hard, Home kit, Claret (thats Villa darker claret, Burnley have a similar claret but not the slightly florescent one West Ham wear) light blue sleeves, White shorts, light blue socks with claret and white trim. Away kit ideally white shirt, light blue shorts and white or claret socks. 3rd kit do what you like. Training kit do what you like.
Bingo.
Agreed. Which is exactly what i'm expecting to see on Monday morning.
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Here are the shirts:
(https://thumb.ibb.co/cvDb2T/13_B846_D2_485_C_4529_99_C1_DEB337_C1779_E.png) (https://ibb.co/cvDb2T)
(https://thumb.ibb.co/dm3Xbo/D0846_C9_D_88_EC_4614_BFC8_99_EACF86813_B.png) (https://ibb.co/dm3Xbo)
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It's a yes from me.
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Hmmm I don’t really don’t know....maybe is a grower.
Where is the blue on the home shirt.
The away though.....gorgeous.
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I like the away kit but to me the home kit doesn’t have enough blue in it.
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Way too much claret, not enough blue.
I like the embossed crests, mind.
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Do we not play in claret with blue sleeves anymore?
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Way too much claret, not enough blue.
I like the embossed crests, mind.
If you look here:
https://kit.avfc.co.uk/homekit
and rotate the kit, there's more blue on the side (that you can't really see in those pics)
Not sure if there is enough tbh, but I still like it.
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Got to say I think these are absolutely banging shirts. I’m usually clear cut on which one I’ll get both these are so nice I’m struggling. I just hope the quality is good - under armour rather than Macron. U would hope the colab between two companies will get this right
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Way too much claret, not enough blue.
I like the embossed crests, mind.
If you look here:
https://kit.avfc.co.uk/homekit
and rotate the kit, there's more blue on the side (that you can't really see in those pics)
Not sure if there is enough tbh, but I still like it.
reminds me of the 1983 kit , I like it
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The universally positive reaction suggests that only I can see the emperor's new kit.
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Any pics of the shorts and socks?
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I like the kit, looks nice.
Except it isn't a Home Villa shirt. The dark stripes on the home show what could have been. The hint of blue under the arm show what might have been on the sleeves.
Away is nice.
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I wont like it when we start losing ;D
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Do we not play in claret with blue sleeves anymore?
My thoughts exactly. This is like a re-hash of one of the dreadful Henson efforts. Fuck off Luke whatever your name is and take your shitty designs with you.
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What colour are the shorts? They are both very nice though agree with the lack of blue comments in the home.
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I hate it, its a West Ham strip.
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The away kit is OK, if a bit nondescript. The home kit is rubbish though. I like the colour of the claret, but the lack of blue sleeves is just wrong, even with the patches of blue on the sides. The stripes look funny at the shoulders as well. The 'Luke' logo is shite, and looks out of place on a football kit. I don't know what that logo is supposed to be, but it looks like you've got two badly matching lions on different sides.
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One positive is the shade(s) of claret actually looks claret. However the blue still looks like the wishy washy lilac that Macron introduced. Generally don't give a shit what the away kit looks like but always disappointing when we don't have claret with blue sleeves on the home kit.
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That's shite. Claret shirt, blue sleeves or fuck off.
The half of the away shirt I can see seems nice.
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Using the link to site where you can rotate the top from Paulewalnuts, the shirt does look a lot better.
The flash of blue under the pits is nice, and the McGregor logo is a classy touch.
Hope it’s not too ‘tailored’ though.
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Love them both. The lack of blue sleeves on the home kit doesn't bother me to be honest. It's like an upgrade on the classic Mita one for me, with a better neck as well. 9/10
Love the away, classic simple design, i always prefer a white away shirt. 8/10
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Does anybody know what the Luke logo is supposed to be as a matter of interest?
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That's shite. Claret shirt, blue sleeves or fuck off.
Short sharp and to the point CD - and spot on.
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Time was that the lack of blue arms would have had the barricades being manned already.
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I see we have alternate shorts/socks as well. White and blue. Very swish
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It's really not that hard, Home kit, Claret (thats Villa darker claret, Burnley have a similar claret but not the slightly florescent one West Ham wear) light blue sleeves, White shorts, light blue socks with claret and white trim. Away kit ideally white shirt, light blue shorts and white or claret socks. 3rd kit do what you like. Training kit do what you like.
Bingo.
Just to reiterate. It not fucking hard is it.
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Really hope Hearts can hold on to Jack Grealish and get promoted next season. Come on you Jam Tarts.
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It's really not that hard, Home kit, Claret (thats Villa darker claret, Burnley have a similar claret but not the slightly florescent one West Ham wear) light blue sleeves, White shorts, light blue socks with claret and white trim. Away kit ideally white shirt, light blue shorts and white or claret socks. 3rd kit do what you like. Training kit do what you like.
Bingo.
Just to reiterate. It not fucking hard is it.
No. It's brilliant.
We're not all dead set on having blue sleeves after all. Just like i'm not dead set on having stripes or not having stripes. I don't see what's not to like personally.
But each to their own. Like any kit, or piece of clothing it's down to personal choice. I predict a big seller. Just as well.
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Polos not bad - http://shop.avfc.co.uk/stores/astonvilla/en/search/polo%20luke
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Brilliant love it he's done a very good job.
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No. It's brilliant.
We're not all dead set on having blue sleeves after all. Just like i'm not dead set on having stripes or not having stripes. I don't see what's not to like personally.
But each to their own. Like any kit, or piece of clothing it's down to personal choice. I predict a big seller. Just as well.
There's a big difference between a Villa kit having or not having blue sleeves and the appearance or otherwise of stripes. We play in claret and blue. Part of the blue is traditionally the sleeves and I'm surprised that a designer whose chief selling points is that he's a Villa supporter didn't realise that.
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Exactly, it’s not a Villa kit.
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The kit it most closely resembles is the 84-85 season Coq Sportif one.
It's not awful, but I would have preferred blue sleeves. Maybe next year.
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Really hope Hearts can hold on to Jack Grealish and get promoted next season. Come on you Jam Tarts.
"Let It Go..."
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Anyone got full size pictures of the entire kit, please?
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http://shop.avfc.co.uk/stores/astonvilla/en/product/aston-villa-home-shirt-2018-19/240994?categories=football-kits
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Yes to me it's the "Didier Six" shirt.
It would have looked really good with Blue sleeves and like Dave, I'm staggered that a Villa fan designer would have overlooked this basic foundation of the design, especially when he seems to have taken so much care over getting the claret right.
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Can’t see they’ve been released but they flipping want to be white shorts and blue socks.
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Can’t see they’ve been released but they flipping want to be white shirts and blue socks.
They're on the site. Blue or white, socks and shorts
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Screw "we wanted to take back control for the fans", how about designing something that looks like a Villa home shirt? Hate the stripes, and that colour – certainly on screen – just doesn't look right. It's a poor pastiche of the 83 shirt, which isn't exactly a season to set the pulse racing.
The away shirt looks half decent.
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No. It's brilliant.
We're not all dead set on having blue sleeves after all. Just like i'm not dead set on having stripes or not having stripes. I don't see what's not to like personally.
But each to their own. Like any kit, or piece of clothing it's down to personal choice. I predict a big seller. Just as well.
There's a big difference between a Villa kit having or not having blue sleeves and the appearance or otherwise of stripes. We play in claret and blue. Part of the blue is traditionally the sleeves and I'm surprised that a designer whose chief selling points is that he's a Villa supporter didn't realise that.
Agree with Dave completely, just like the name of the ground being sacred so in my opinion are our colours and strip. How low do we have to go with this debacle. I though the designer being a Villa fan would have maintained the base design of our beloved strip and colours. It may as well have been designed by Henson.
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No. It's brilliant.
We're not all dead set on having blue sleeves after all. Just like i'm not dead set on having stripes or not having stripes. I don't see what's not to like personally.
But each to their own. Like any kit, or piece of clothing it's down to personal choice. I predict a big seller. Just as well.
There's a big difference between a Villa kit having or not having blue sleeves and the appearance or otherwise of stripes. We play in claret and blue. Part of the blue is traditionally the sleeves and I'm surprised that a designer whose chief selling points is that he's a Villa supporter didn't realise that.
Agree with Dave completely, just like the name of the ground being sacred so in my opinion are our colours and strip. How low do we have to go with this debacle. I though the designer being a Villa fan would have maintained the base design of our beloved strip and colours. It may as well have been designed by Henson.
ironically, the name of the ground is one thing I'm not that fussed over. I don't do rational.
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http://shop.avfc.co.uk/stores/astonvilla/en/product/aston-villa-home-shirt-2018-19/240994?categories=football-kits
Ta. No idea what socks and shorts will be like?
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There's a big difference between a Villa kit having or not having blue sleeves and the appearance or otherwise of stripes. We play in claret and blue. Part of the blue is traditionally the sleeves and I'm surprised that a designer whose chief selling points is that he's a Villa supporter didn't realise that.
Fair enough, but as a supporter of a similar vintage (i assume) it doesn't bother me at all. We've had non blue sleeves before and it didn't bother me then either. I'm just delighted (a) it looks claret (b) i love the retro design
I suspect this Luke bloke feels the same.
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Both kits look very smart. Not having claret sleeves for one season is nothing to get upset about. We never did in the 57 final, 94 or 2000 to name a few and they were all proper Villa shirts.
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Screw "we wanted to take back control for the fans", how about designing something that looks like a Villa home shirt? Hate the stripes, and that colour
Hate the colour ??? it's about the first time we've had a claret shirt in decades surely
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It's really not that hard, Home kit, Claret (thats Villa darker claret, Burnley have a similar claret but not the slightly florescent one West Ham wear) light blue sleeves, White shorts, light blue socks with claret and white trim. Away kit ideally white shirt, light blue shorts and white or claret socks. 3rd kit do what you like. Training kit do what you like.
Bingo.
Agreed. Which is exactly what i'm expecting to see on Monday morning.
See you’ve changed your tune then SLB.
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Both kits look very smart. Not having claret sleeves for one season is nothing to get upset about. We never did in the 57 final, 94 or 2000 to name a few and they were all proper Villa shirts.
The 57 shirts were change strips. We had them as an away kit the next season, not a home kit. The 94 and 2000 shirts were abominations.
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I think the design for the home shirt is a thing of beauty. Modern, sleek, claret (!). something about the sponsor logo seems a touch continental, which I suppose is quite sad considering the current plight of the club.
The only issue I have is with the rubberised badge. It looks like a keyring that someone got from a petrol pump.
Overall, love it. Can't wait to get one.
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It's not even that claret. It's claret and red stripes.
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Both kits look very smart. Not having claret sleeves for one season is nothing to get upset about. We never did in the 57 final, 94 or 2000 to name a few and they were all proper Villa shirts.
The 57 shirts were change strips. We had them as an away kit the next season, not a home kit. The 94 and 2000 shirts were abominations.
Hence why I said final. It’s all down to personal preference. I grew up with that 90s team so have fond memories of those strips. Those who are a bit older remember the early 80s and want to play in replicas of those shirts until the end of time.
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I'm coming around to the home kit but still don't understand how a self-professed Villan would think claret sleeves would please the masses? Even a blue stripe as trim on the shoulders would have helped. Speaks a lot to the tone-deafness of the current regime IMO.
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No. It's brilliant.
We're not all dead set on having blue sleeves after all. Just like i'm not dead set on having stripes or not having stripes. I don't see what's not to like personally.
But each to their own. Like any kit, or piece of clothing it's down to personal choice. I predict a big seller. Just as well.
There's a big difference between a Villa kit having or not having blue sleeves and the appearance or otherwise of stripes. We play in claret and blue. Part of the blue is traditionally the sleeves and I'm surprised that a designer whose chief selling points is that he's a Villa supporter didn't realise that.
Agree with Dave completely, just like the name of the ground being sacred so in my opinion are our colours and strip. How low do we have to go with this debacle. I though the designer being a Villa fan would have maintained the base design of our beloved strip and colours. It may as well have been designed by Henson.
ironically, the name of the ground is one thing I'm not that fussed over. I don't do rational.
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No. It's brilliant.
We're not all dead set on having blue sleeves after all. Just like i'm not dead set on having stripes or not having stripes. I don't see what's not to like personally.
But each to their own. Like any kit, or piece of clothing it's down to personal choice. I predict a big seller. Just as well.
There's a big difference between a Villa kit having or not having blue sleeves and the appearance or otherwise of stripes. We play in claret and blue. Part of the blue is traditionally the sleeves and I'm surprised that a designer whose chief selling points is that he's a Villa supporter didn't realise that.
Agree with Dave completely, just like the name of the ground being sacred so in my opinion are our colours and strip. How low do we have to go with this debacle. I though the designer being a Villa fan would have maintained the base design of our beloved strip and colours. It may as well have been designed by Henson.
Each to their own but im surprised you are both so offended by the colour of the sleeves. there must have been 7 or 8 kits that haven't followed the claret body blue sleeve theme since the 80's, its nice to have a change rather than regurgitating the same thing year after year. I honestly think he's done a great job - Its a nod to the awesome le coq sportive kit from the past, traditional and modern at the same time, the claret is the right colour, really nice collar on it. Even the white away kit is on the money.
Gauging opinion on social media platforms, its is overwhelmingly positive as well which is a n achievement bearing in mind the mood around the club and fans at the moment.
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I like them both - and now ive seen the full range of traning kit, quite like some of that stuff as well. I'm 46 so normally a training top and maybe shorts for running in is all I buy, but just txt my 2 teenage sons and they love both kits...so I guess thats the main demographic.
Its a kit, far more pressing matter as that moment, but the first positive since I walked out of Wembley at the end of May.
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Yes to me it's the "Didier Six" shirt.
It would have looked really good with Blue sleeves and like Dave, I'm staggered that a Villa fan designer would have overlooked this basic foundation of the design, especially when he seems to have taken so much care over getting the claret right.
He's clearly taken inspiration from the 83 shirt, which is no bad thing by the way, hence the lack of blue sleeves. Personally I like it.
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Home kit with blue sleeves would have been a classic. Shame but I think we’ve got a bit more to worry about that what the kit looks like.
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Absolutely hate it! Meddling with the tradition of light blue sleeves is too controversial. I've said it before, why not do 4 or 5 mock-up designs and let the FANS vote for the shirt? As if things can't get any worse.....
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Maybe it’s just me and I’m over reacting but at a time when the clubs standing and stature as a footballing institution is at its lowest in 50 years I’d like to think there’s enough gumption around the joint to play it safe and go ultra traditional when it comes to the home kit.
It not hard but we’ve made a habit of making the simple hard and the hard impossible.
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Away kit looks good.
Home kit is a big NO from me.
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Both kits look very smart. Not having claret sleeves for one season is nothing to get upset about. We never did in the 57 final, 94 or 2000 to name a few and they were all proper Villa shirts.
The 57 shirts were change strips. We had them as an away kit the next season, not a home kit. The 94 and 2000 shirts were abominations.
Hence why I said final. It’s all down to personal preference. I grew up with that 90s team so have fond memories of those strips. Those who are a bit older remember the early 80s and want to play in replicas of those shirts until the end of time.
I first attended a game in 1988, so the nineties provide my happiest memories, too.
I'd still rather we had stuck to our traditional design, as I consider it part of our identity. Arsenal won't be ditching their white sleeves. Celtic won't be playing in all green. AC Milan won't be trotting out in red and black hoops.
People may well think it's a nice shirt. Maybe it is. It isn't a Villa shirt, though.
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Maybe it’s just me and I’m over reacting but at a time when the clubs standing and stature as a footballing institution is at its lowest in 50 years I’d like to think there’s enough gumption around the joint to play it safe and go ultra traditional when it comes to the home kit.
It not hard but we’ve made a habit of making the simple hard and the hard impossible.
I assume the design and everything was done well before we ended up in this mess - I guess they thought it would have premier league labels on the sleeves, and none of us would have cared at all.
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Absolutely hate it! Meddling with the tradition of light blue sleeves is too controversial. I've said it before, why not do 4 or 5 mock-up designs and let the FANS vote for the shirt? As if things can't get any worse.....
Time and cost. You are entirely correct, it just would never wash with the businessmen at a time when we're trying to do everything as cheaply as possible.
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Absolutely hate it! Meddling with the tradition of light blue sleeves is too controversial. I've said it before, why not do 4 or 5 mock-up designs and let the FANS vote for the shirt? As if things can't get any worse.....
Time and cost. You are entirely correct, it just would never wash with the businessmen at a time when we're trying to do everything as cheaply as possible.
We voted on the badge...
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Personally I quite like the home kit, would prefer blue sleeves but there you go. Away and the Goalkeepers kits are nice, overall I would give them a very strong 7/10
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I appreciate the thought that has gone into this kit too:
From reading the official site,
-theres a silhouette of McGregor on the nape of the nack
-the collar is twelve stripes, a nod to the twelve original clubs
-they have obviously tried to get the claret colour right, kudos at the least for listening to fans and for trying to get it right (I think they have done).
I think it's quite a respectful kit, while at the same time trying something a bit different.
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Both kits look very smart. Not having claret sleeves for one season is nothing to get upset about. We never did in the 57 final, 94 or 2000 to name a few and they were all proper Villa shirts.
The 57 shirts were change strips. We had them as an away kit the next season, not a home kit. The 94 and 2000 shirts were abominations.
Hence why I said final. It’s all down to personal preference. I grew up with that 90s team so have fond memories of those strips. Those who are a bit older remember the early 80s and want to play in replicas of those shirts until the end of time.
I first attended a game in 1988, so the nineties provide my happiest memories, too.
I'd still rather we had stuck to our traditional design, as I consider it part of our identity. Arsenal won't be ditching their white sleeves. Celtic won't be playing in all green. AC Milan won't be trotting out in red and black hoops.
People may well think it's a nice shirt. Maybe it is. It isn't a Villa shirt, though.
Don’t get me wrong if someone said we were ditching blue sleeves for the rest of time I’d be the first to moan. I don’t mind the design being changed up every now and again though. Not sure about Milan or Celtic but I seem to remember Arsenal messing with their design a few times. The last season at Highbury and the season we were going for 4th with them being two examples.
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Yes, its not a Villa kit.
Fine as a piece of Villa inspired training or leisure wear, but unfortunately it just contributes to the dilution of our once distinctive identity.
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Really like both of them, look forward to seeing them with the shorts and socks. Not bothered about the lack of blue sleeves, a change every now and then didn't do any harm. Sure they'll be back in 12 months.
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I do get the clamour for the traditional blue sleeves, that would be my go to choice.
But with that said I still like the kit and am happy enough with a change now and then. I also think from a sales point of view, they will have had an eye on the leisure market and may feel the all over colour is more suited to that?
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55 quid. No idea how that compares with other teams’ shirts. The last Villa shirt I bought was the white Reebok one, over 20 years ago.
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Love them both, 84 kit was one of my favourites. HYou can't have the same kit every year (when you need the money). White away kit always a plus too.
If you don't like it then don't buy it.
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Any reason the Recon Sponsorship isn't on the back this season?
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55 quid. No idea how that compares with other teams’ shirts. The last Villa shirt I bought was the white Reebok one, over 20 years ago.
Website error - it's £50
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55 quid. No idea how that compares with other teams’ shirts. The last Villa shirt I bought was the white Reebok one, over 20 years ago.
Reduced to £50 when you order on the web site - The current England one is £65 but you can pick up for about £55 at Sports direct
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The last season at Highbury they played in a replica of the kit they played in when they first moved there as a mark of respect, can’t recall any other changes. Ironically I thought I heard that Aresnals kit was based on the Villa kit and was the idea of Herbert Chapman, maybe an urban myth but I’ve told my Gooner son a million times so it better be true.
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Both kits look very smart. Not having claret sleeves for one season is nothing to get upset about. We never did in the 57 final, 94 or 2000 to name a few and they were all proper Villa shirts.
The 57 shirts were change strips. We had them as an away kit the next season, not a home kit. The 94 and 2000 shirts were abominations.
Hence why I said final. It’s all down to personal preference. I grew up with that 90s team so have fond memories of those strips. Those who are a bit older remember the early 80s and want to play in replicas of those shirts until the end of time.
I first attended a game in 1988, so the nineties provide my happiest memories, too.
I'd still rather we had stuck to our traditional design, as I consider it part of our identity. Arsenal won't be ditching their white sleeves. Celtic won't be playing in all green. AC Milan won't be trotting out in red and black hoops.
People may well think it's a nice shirt. Maybe it is. It isn't a Villa shirt, though.
We have changed our shirt design more than most though - I just had a look through and its surprising how many times we have moved away from the standard template. I think the colours of claret and blue are more synonymous than the design.
I don't think it hurts for a season or two, I imagine a lot of the positivity is due to it being something different.
Not picking bones but haven't Arsenal dropped their white sleeves a couple of times? seem to remember Henry playing in an all claret kit for one season!
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It's really not that hard, Home kit, Claret (thats Villa darker claret, Burnley have a similar claret but not the slightly florescent one West Ham wear) light blue sleeves, White shorts, light blue socks with claret and white trim. Away kit ideally white shirt, light blue shorts and white or claret socks. 3rd kit do what you like. Training kit do what you like.
Bingo.
Agreed. Which is exactly what i'm expecting to see on Monday morning.
See you’ve changed your tune then SLB.
I was expecting to see a claret and blue shirt. We now have a claret with a tiny bit of blue shirt. And it's absolutely gorgeous.
Not changed my tune at all.
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Home shirt looks like one of those cheap knock offs of the 83-85 shirt you'd find abroad for a fiver. When he says inspired by he actually means he copied that design and just changed a couple of minor bits. Disappointing.
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Home shirt looks like one of those cheap knock offs of the 83-85 shirt you'd find abroad for a fiver. When he says inspired by he actually means he copied that design and just changed a couple of minor bits. Disappointing.
Yeah, changed the awful neck for a much better one :)
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It's really not that hard, Home kit, Claret (thats Villa darker claret, Burnley have a similar claret but not the slightly florescent one West Ham wear) light blue sleeves, White shorts, light blue socks with claret and white trim. Away kit ideally white shirt, light blue shorts and white or claret socks. 3rd kit do what you like. Training kit do what you like.
Bingo.
Agreed. Which is exactly what i'm expecting to see on Monday morning.
See you’ve changed your tune then SLB.
I was expecting to see a claret and blue shirt. We now have a claret with a tiny bit of blue shirt. And it's absolutely gorgeous.
Not changed my tune at all.
Apart from the blue sleeves bit obvs.
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Lovely, correct shades of claret, but it should have blue sleeves.
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Sponsor logo is too big.
What colour are the home socks, anyone know?
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Sponsor logo is too big.
What colour are the home socks, anyone know?
Sweet Damson.
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Grand getting back to our truly claret shirts the pinks been banished
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Both kits look very smart. Not having claret sleeves for one season is nothing to get upset about. We never did in the 57 final, 94 or 2000 to name a few and they were all proper Villa shirts.
The 57 shirts were change strips. We had them as an away kit the next season, not a home kit. The 94 and 2000 shirts were abominations.
Hence why I said final. It’s all down to personal preference. I grew up with that 90s team so have fond memories of those strips. Those who are a bit older remember the early 80s and want to play in replicas of those shirts until the end of time.
I first attended a game in 1988, so the nineties provide my happiest memories, too.
I'd still rather we had stuck to our traditional design, as I consider it part of our identity. Arsenal won't be ditching their white sleeves. Celtic won't be playing in all green. AC Milan won't be trotting out in red and black hoops.
People may well think it's a nice shirt. Maybe it is. It isn't a Villa shirt, though.
Spot on again CD. Without wishing to sound like a tory, claret body with blue sleeves is a part of our tradition and heritage. There may have been a few diversions from this since the 80s but no doubt these were commercially driven to try and differentiate from previous versions and boost sales that way for the easily swayed. And for me, none of them were Villa shirts, not one of them. It's not just about tradition either, it's like a trademark, or brand image these days, it's recognisable as Villa colours when it's claret with blue sleeves. Clubs who value their tradition, reputation, heritage and image, like the ones you mention, don't tend to fuck about with their strip too much. See also the England strip prior to this one, a total abomination.
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Sponsor logo is too big.
What colour are the home socks, anyone know?
There is a picture on the OS of the kits being modelled (on a rooftop in town) and the home socks are blue with a claret trim.
As for the home shirt, it's just an updated version of the 1983/4 one isn't it?
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What colour are the home socks, anyone know?
There is a picture on the OS of the kits being modelled (on a rooftop in town) and the home socks are blue with a claret trim.
As for the home shirt, it's just an updated version of the 1983/4 one isn't it? Would have preferred a version of the away kit from that year to be honest!
Maybe it was the kit we wore when Luke Roper went to his first game or something.
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Both kits look very smart. Not having claret sleeves for one season is nothing to get upset about. We never did in the 57 final, 94 or 2000 to name a few and they were all proper Villa shirts.
The 57 shirts were change strips. We had them as an away kit the next season, not a home kit. The 94 and 2000 shirts were abominations.
Hence why I said final. It’s all down to personal preference. I grew up with that 90s team so have fond memories of those strips. Those who are a bit older remember the early 80s and want to play in replicas of those shirts until the end of time.
I first attended a game in 1988, so the nineties provide my happiest memories, too.
I'd still rather we had stuck to our traditional design, as I consider it part of our identity. Arsenal won't be ditching their white sleeves. Celtic won't be playing in all green. AC Milan won't be trotting out in red and black hoops.
People may well think it's a nice shirt. Maybe it is. It isn't a Villa shirt, though.
We have changed our shirt design more than most though - I just had a look through and its surprising how many times we have moved away from the standard template. I think the colours of claret and blue are more synonymous than the design.
I don't think it hurts for a season or two, I imagine a lot of the positivity is due to it being something different.
Not picking bones but haven't Arsenal dropped their white sleeves a couple of times? seem to remember Henry playing in an all claret kit for one season!
There was a particular reason for that - they were celebrating a centenary or something and in honour of that they reverted to the strip they were wearing back in the day. Apart from that there have been maybe one or two instances where the white on the sleeves has been reduced or minimal but generally they have stuck with the same format since the 60s at least.
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Absolutely right and in an age where, even from the depths of the Championship, English football clubs are courting a worldwide audience to then make the decision to go away from our traditional kit is a very strange decision and yet another sign that Dr T has a tin ear when if comes to understanding this club.
Our heritage and tradition is one of the few things we can still be proud of so now is not the time to be messing round with them.
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Sponsor logo is too big.
What colour are the home socks, anyone know?
There is a picture on the OS of the kits being modelled (on a rooftop in town) and the home socks are blue with a claret trim.
As for the home shirt, it's just an updated version of the 1983/4 one isn't it?
Maybe it was the kit we wore when Luke Roper went to his first game or something.
There are two sets of socks for home kit, blue is standard and white is alternate. They're both here FYI: http://shop.avfc.co.uk/stores/astonvilla/en/c/football-kits/home-kit
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The club is becoming less and less recognizable.
At a time when our identity is even more important, they come up with this shit.
Idiots.
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I get the feeling that the kit is aimed at the Twitter generation,, which means us old arses have got something else to moan about.
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Love them both. Updated retro feel. Proper claret. 83/84 shirt always a favourite. Big yes from me
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The club is becoming less and less recognizable.
In what way?
Still called Aston Villa, yes
Still play at Villa Park, yes
Still play in claret and blue, yes
Still underachieving, yes
There's literally nothing changed with the club at all. Other than we're in the Championship for the third successive season.
Why do people feel the need to be overly dramatic all the time?
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Very smart.
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The club is becoming less and less recognizable.
In what way?
Still called Aston Villa, yes
Still play at Villa Park, yes
Still play in claret and blue, yes
Still underachieving, yes
There's literally nothing changed with the club at all. Other than we're in the Championship for the third successive season.
Why do people feel the need to be overly dramatic all the time?
This is H&V.
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The away kit is very nice. The home kit is just a little different to what I expected but still Aston Villa. We’ve had style changes in the past and this one is a bit retro mixed in with an eye to a younger generation. Either way it was never going please everyone but I think for the most part as combination home and away is quite good. Now as always need the team to win games.
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Got to say I like it. Especially the home shirt.
But I’m not one for micro analysis.
It looks the part. I’ll buy one. That’s it isn’t it?
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The home kit reminds me so much of the 83/84 version that I half expected Steve McMahon to be modelling it.
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Wanted to like them, but I don't.
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Love the ethos and design thought gone into them but for someone that has mentioned so much about colours, it’s disappointing to see lack of blue on home sleeves although better to have blue socks again.
Away...nice design and layout again but that trim would have Been so much better to be proper claret /and or blue..... it looks much nearer red !?
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I think they've missed a trick not having the arms in blue but other than that, I like them.
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The club is becoming less and less recognizable.
In what way?
Still called Aston Villa, yes
Still play at Villa Park, yes
Still play in claret and blue, yes
Still underachieving, yes
There's literally nothing changed with the club at all. Other than we're in the Championship for the third successive season.
Why do people feel the need to be overly dramatic all the time?
I don’t feel a need.
I am expressing an opinion.
You should read some Orwell.
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I do like it, but think it would look awesome with blue sleeves. However, my 18 yr old son thinks it "sick" and that's more the target than a 50 yr old with advancing waistline!
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Better than I expected and from the club's point of view will sell both the home and the away strips.
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Both kits look very smart. Not having claret sleeves for one season is nothing to get upset about. We never did in the 57 final, 94 or 2000 to name a few and they were all proper Villa shirts.
The 57 shirts were change strips. We had them as an away kit the next season, not a home kit. The 94 and 2000 shirts were abominations.
Hence why I said final. It’s all down to personal preference. I grew up with that 90s team so have fond memories of those strips. Those who are a bit older remember the early 80s and want to play in replicas of those shirts until the end of time.
I first attended a game in 1988, so the nineties provide my happiest memories, too.
I'd still rather we had stuck to our traditional design, as I consider it part of our identity. Arsenal won't be ditching their white sleeves. Celtic won't be playing in all green. AC Milan won't be trotting out in red and black hoops.
People may well think it's a nice shirt. Maybe it is. It isn't a Villa shirt, though.
We have changed our shirt design more than most though - I just had a look through and its surprising how many times we have moved away from the standard template. I think the colours of claret and blue are more synonymous than the design.
I don't think it hurts for a season or two, I imagine a lot of the positivity is due to it being something different.
Not picking bones but haven't Arsenal dropped their white sleeves a couple of times? seem to remember Henry playing in an all claret kit for one season!
There was a particular reason for that - they were celebrating a centenary or something and in honour of that they reverted to the strip they were wearing back in the day. Apart from that there have been maybe one or two instances where the white on the sleeves has been reduced or minimal but generally they have stuck with the same format since the 60s at least.
Arsenal claimed the redcurrent special shirt for the last season at highbury was the same colour as the one they wore during their first season at Highbury.
However this was later proved to be total bollox and simply a marketing ploy to sell more shirts.
As for our new kits, although I prefer a blue sleeve I quite like the home shirt and really like the away shirt.
The last Villa shirt without blue sleeves was the one sponsored by Ntl which I recall we wore for the first time on the last day of the season before, if you know what I I'm saying, when we relegated Coventry with that Merson wonder strike.
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Screw "we wanted to take back control for the fans", how about designing something that looks like a Villa home shirt? Hate the stripes, and that colour
Hate the colour ??? it's about the first time we've had a claret shirt in decades surely
If you'd bothered to quote the full sentence, you'd understand that's not what I said.
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Disappointed yet again. Wanted darker claret and sky blue sleeves. Looks a bit 1980's to me, don't like the stripes either. Wont be spending £50 on that.
So let's recap :
Owner doesn't know how to run a football club
Massively in debt
Can't buy new players
No football business acumen at board level
Hate the new kit
Languishing in the 2nd tier
Another car crash of an era following AVFC.
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I quite like it but a bit more blue would've been better, I can see what he was trying to do though and there's lots of really nice little details.
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Barcelona had a hooped shirt a few years ago, didn't do them any harm. I like it.
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Disappointed yet again. Wanted darker claret and sky blue sleeves. Looks a bit 1980's to me, don't like the stripes either. Wont be spending £50 on that.
So let's recap :
Owner doesn't know how to run a football club
Massively in debt
Can't buy new players
No football business acumen at board level
Hate the new kit
Languishing in the 2nd tier
Another car crash of an era following AVFC.
Claret & Blue Flag Always Flapping though! ;)
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Away kit's fine. Very clean and traditional.
Home is a big disappointment. I'm trying to think like a designer. Maybe solid blue sleeves wouldn't work with the two claret shades? In which case he should've gone with the darker shade. Really don't like the side panels.
I don't like the Luke logo. Looks fussy and there's too much heraldry going on.
As already said, it's not a bad shirt but it's not a good Villa one. We look like Scunthorpe.
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Fuck me, we haven't got blue arms on the shirt and people are having a meltdown. I'm all for tradition, but where does tradition start and end? To some younger people, this will be a replica of the first shirt they ever owned, so they'll be delighted - older fans won't like it, but let's be honest, it's only for one season, and when all is said and done, it's mainly kids and teenagers that buy them anyway. Look at the Muller repro shirts - they sold like wildfire, yet I thought the kit was shocking.
Perhaps those dissenters should ask Luke to go full traditional next year and make them a chocolate shirt made from lambswool. Folks, we really have bigger things to worry about than the colour of our sleeves let's face it.
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Folks, we really have bigger things to worry about than the colour of our sleeves let's face it.
But not in a thread about the new kit.
Which is shite by the way.
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I get the feeling that the kit is aimed at the Twitter generation,, which means us old arses have got something else to moan about.
If only it was the only thing we had to moan about!
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£50 for the home shirt.
Remind me, what are the benefits for fans we were promised as part of this deal?
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£50 for the home shirt.
Remind me, what are the benefits for fans we were promised as part of this deal?
We get to save ourselves £50 if we don't like it?
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£50 for the home shirt.
Remind me, what are the benefits for fans we were promised as part of this deal?
You get to wear a newer version of an 80s kit with rubbish sleeves and a terrible logo from a purveyor of chav tat. For a mere fifty quid.
Honestly, some fans eh, never happy.
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Remind me, what are the benefits for fans we were promised as part of this deal?
You mean you’ve forgotten already?
“As both retail partner and kit manufacturer, Fanatics will operate a full vertical-manufacturing model, meaning the new kit, bearing the LUKE 1977 brand logo, will be managed by a single company from production to point-of-sale. This means fan merchandise enjoys faster speed-to-market in an increasingly on-demand world”
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The more I look at the home kit the more I like it. It’s ok to be a bit different sometimes.
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Not keen on the home, no blue sleeves feels like a kick in the teeth. I expected a bit more tradition from the Villa fan who has produced this. Maybe in 2-3 months i'll be happier with it but my initial reaction is one of big disappointment. Its definitely an update of the 83-85 kit but it also looks like the West Midlands Village kit from numerous version of Pro Evolution soccer. The claret looks a lot better though and if i had to pick between this or the similar pinker version from Diadora in 01-02 i would pick this latest one...... but still, big disappointment.
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£50 for the home shirt.
Remind me, what are the benefits for fans we were promised as part of this deal?
I checked earlier and it is 75€ so you're already making a saving!
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Been having a lunch time twitter/facebook trawl. Seems the club have hit on a winner
Fingers crossed it brings in some much needed income. Seems we can make good decisions after all.
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i just dont get some of the comments i've seen on the internet that are delighted we havent got blue sleeves. "Thank god no more blue sleeves!" says one. THEY ARE OUR COLOURS FFS!
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Disappointed yet again. Wanted darker claret and sky blue sleeves. Looks a bit 1980's to me, don't like the stripes either. Wont be spending £50 on that.
So let's recap :
Owner doesn't know how to run a football club
Massively in debt
Can't buy new players
No football business acumen at board level
Hate the new kit
Languishing in the 2nd tier
Another car crash of an era following AVFC.
Don’t worry Tone made a statement and Bruce is still the manager.
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i just dont get some of the comments i've seen on the internet that are delighted we havent got blue sleeves. "Thank god no more blue sleeves!" says one. THEY ARE OUR COLOURS FFS!
I just don't get the opposite moaning. It is claret and blue FFS
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It is and dont get me wrong i love the colours - but our kits are claret shirts with blue sleeves. You dont see Arsenal wearing all red except for the commemorative kit. Spurs had that white shirt with navy sleeves about ten years and their fans hated it. Liverpool, Man United, even a lot of international teams, they might mess around with bits of trim or whatever but they dont stray from their basic designs.
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Here's a humdinger for you. The Home kit is being touted at £50 but when I go through to pay in Euro it's €75. Not including the €9 shipping across the Irish Sea.
Current exchange rate makes £50 = €56.
WTF? That's just robbery.
I was actually going to buy a current kit for once but not at those prices. I'll just save my money for match tickets, thanks very much.
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West Ham occasionally stray from blue sleeves too - like this season and also about 3 years before- and they moan about it too. Yes people will still buy it but isnt that just to keep up with the fashion?
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It is and dont get me wrong i love the colours - but our kits are claret shirts with blue sleeves. You dont see Arsenal wearing all red except for the commemorative kit. Spurs had that white shirt with navy sleeves about ten years and their fans hated it. Liverpool, Man United, even a lot of international teams, they might mess around with bits of trim or whatever but they dont stray from their basic designs.
was there this much fuss the last time we didn't have blue sleeves? i genuinely don't recall and i'm sure nobody really cared.
all Villa home kits should contain claret, blue, white and at a push a bit of yellow if absolutely necessary IMHO. and it does
so i'm happy. the fact the design is beautiful helps as well of course. i've already been hit for four of them as the nephew wants both as well. that's a first
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Well I think it’s fantastic!
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Take my £100
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It is and dont get me wrong i love the colours - but our kits are claret shirts with blue sleeves. You dont see Arsenal wearing all red except for the commemorative kit. Spurs had that white shirt with navy sleeves about ten years and their fans hated it. Liverpool, Man United, even a lot of international teams, they might mess around with bits of trim or whatever but they dont stray from their basic designs.
was there this much fuss the last time we didn't have blue sleeves? i genuinely don't recall and i'm sure nobody really cared.
all Villa home kits should contain claret, blue, white and at a push a bit of yellow if absolutely necessary IMHO. and it does
so i'm happy. the fact the design is beautiful helps as well of course. i've already been hit for four of them as the nephew wants both as well. that's a first
I've known revolutions called when we didn't have blue sleeves.
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Plenty of the mid 80's kits never had blue sleeves, pretty sure he's modelled this one on them. I bet fans didn't know what to do with themselves without the www to air their anger back then.
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Plenty of the mid 80's kits never had blue sleeves. I bet fans didn't know what to do with themselves without the www to air their anger back then.
Indeed.
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It is and dont get me wrong i love the colours - but our kits are claret shirts with blue sleeves. You dont see Arsenal wearing all red except for the commemorative kit. Spurs had that white shirt with navy sleeves about ten years and their fans hated it. Liverpool, Man United, even a lot of international teams, they might mess around with bits of trim or whatever but they dont stray from their basic designs.
was there this much fuss the last time we didn't have blue sleeves? i genuinely don't recall and i'm sure nobody really cared.
all Villa home kits should contain claret, blue, white and at a push a bit of yellow if absolutely necessary IMHO. and it does
so i'm happy. the fact the design is beautiful helps as well of course. i've already been hit for four of them as the nephew wants both as well. that's a first
I've known revolutions called when we didn't have blue sleeves.
Bloody right as well.... as nice as they are, the home kit should have blue sleeves. Its like Celtic playing in green with white piping on the cuffs. It’s not just claret and blue. It’s claret body with blue sleeves.
Why is that so difficult?
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I bet fans didn't know what to do with themselves without the www to air their anger back then.
Didn’t you ever read the Argus letters page?
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Is there a particular reason they're charging €75 for the home shirt?
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Just wish I could get a longsleeve..
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Plenty of the mid 80's kits never had blue sleeves, pretty sure he's modelled this one on them. I bet fans didn't know what to do with themselves without the www to air their anger back then.
I'd imagine the 15,000 who could be bothered to turn up just grumbled and wrote the odd letter to the Mail.
Don't really see the point of your argument, though.
People shouldn't express negative opinions on the internet?
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I bet fans didn't know what to do with themselves without the www to air their anger back then.
Didn’t you ever read the Argus letters page?
Ha Ha, good'un.
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Plenty of the mid 80's kits never had blue sleeves, pretty sure he's modelled this one on them. I bet fans didn't know what to do with themselves without the www to air their anger back then.
I'd imagine the 15,000 who could be bothered to turn up just grumbled and wrote the odd letter to the Mail.
Don't really see the point of your argument, though.
People shouldn't express negative opinions on the internet?
I wasn't arguing, just expressing my opinion you ray of sunshine.
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Ooft. That hurt me.
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Well I think it’s fantastic!
The badge is plastic!
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Is there a particular reason they're charging €75 for the home shirt?
Brexit.
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I like it. I see Colin Gibson.
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Is there a particular reason they're charging €75 for the home shirt?
Brexit.
Somehow I can't see a swing of 20 euro in that direction for the foreseeable though. Going at today's exchange rate, it should be €56!
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I like it. I see Colin Gibson.
yes it makes me think of my childhood ,,, sniffle :)
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Is there a particular reason they're charging €75 for the home shirt?
Brexit.
Somehow I can't see a swing of 20 euro in that direction for the foreseeable though. Going at today's exchange rate, it should be €56!
The pound actually went up today, not really sure why.
Even so... agree that €75 plus €9 delivery seems pretty steep.
Imagine how much extra they would have charged if the shirt included proper sleeves!
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Is there a particular reason they're charging €75 for the home shirt?
Brexit.
Somehow I can't see a swing of 20 euro in that direction for the foreseeable though. Going at today's exchange rate, it should be €56!
The pound actually went up today, not really sure why.
Even so... agree that €75 plus €9 delivery seems pretty steep.
Imagine how much extra they would have charged if the shirt included proper sleeves!
Davis and BloJo out of the negotiations.
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Not too dissimilar to the new West Ham shirt
https://www.officialwesthamstore.com/home-kit-201819/adults/3700_201819-ADULT-HOME-SHIRT.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMImZuZ0rGS3AIVxp3tCh0vNA9aEAQYASABEgJiH_D_BwE (https://www.officialwesthamstore.com/home-kit-201819/adults/3700_201819-ADULT-HOME-SHIRT.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMImZuZ0rGS3AIVxp3tCh0vNA9aEAQYASABEgJiH_D_BwE)
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Is there a particular reason they're charging €75 for the home shirt?
I've sent them a mail to query why there's such a big price difference. I'll let you know what they say.
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Is there a particular reason they're charging €75 for the home shirt?
Brexit.
Somehow I can't see a swing of 20 euro in that direction for the foreseeable though. Going at today's exchange rate, it should be €56!
Parcelmotel should be able to help here.
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Not too dissimilar to the new West Ham shirt
https://www.officialwesthamstore.com/home-kit-201819/adults/3700_201819-ADULT-HOME-SHIRT.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMImZuZ0rGS3AIVxp3tCh0vNA9aEAQYASABEgJiH_D_BwE (https://www.officialwesthamstore.com/home-kit-201819/adults/3700_201819-ADULT-HOME-SHIRT.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMImZuZ0rGS3AIVxp3tCh0vNA9aEAQYASABEgJiH_D_BwE)
Ours is better than theirs at least. Historical Football Shirts is a very good website showing every kit for every club since records began and theres a feature on this seasons tops. The West Ham fan reviewing their new kits absolutely hates the home.
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Is there a particular reason they're charging €75 for the home shirt?
Brexit.
Somehow I can't see a swing of 20 euro in that direction for the foreseeable though. Going at today's exchange rate, it should be €56!
Parcelmotel should be able to help here.
Good shout, although truth be told I'm not going to be getting the kit, but the price jumped out at me!
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Looks nice both home and away. I prefer a break from traditional and we should go mad every new kit launch. Perhaps next time we should base it on Nigeria’s World Cup Kit.
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Me no like
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Remind me, what are the benefits for fans we were promised as part of this deal?
You mean you’ve forgotten already?
“As both retail partner and kit manufacturer, Fanatics will operate a full vertical-manufacturing model, meaning the new kit, bearing the LUKE 1977 brand logo, will be managed by a single company from production to point-of-sale. This means fan merchandise enjoys faster speed-to-market in an increasingly on-demand world”
Ah right. So that must mean our kit is out before everyone else's then?
(https://www.footyheadlines.com/2017/11/2018-19-kit-overview-all-leaked-18-19.html - turns out only Brighton and Fulham are still to announce out of the Prem...)
So essentially we're paying £50 to have a kit which isn't realised half way through the season?! Now I know I'm not the target market for replica shirts (I haven't bought a full price replica shirt in about 20 years!) but the marketing blurb about how fantastic this new deal was is a load of shite isn't it?
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So essentially we're paying £50 to have a kit which isn't realised half way through the season?
You what ?
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No blue sleeves, it's a no from me.
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The home shirt reminds me of the 4-3 season opener against Smethwick in 1983 but also the beginning of the monumental slide after losing to Spartak Moscow.
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Remind me, what are the benefits for fans we were promised as part of this deal?
You mean you’ve forgotten already?
“As both retail partner and kit manufacturer, Fanatics will operate a full vertical-manufacturing model, meaning the new kit, bearing the LUKE 1977 brand logo, will be managed by a single company from production to point-of-sale. This means fan merchandise enjoys faster speed-to-market in an increasingly on-demand world”
Ah right. So that must mean our kit is out before everyone else's then?
(https://www.footyheadlines.com/2017/11/2018-19-kit-overview-all-leaked-18-19.html - turns out only Brighton and Fulham are still to announce out of the Prem...)
So essentially we're paying £50 to have a kit which isn't realised half way through the season?! Now I know I'm not the target market for replica shirts (I haven't bought a full price replica shirt in about 20 years!) but the marketing blurb about how fantastic this new deal was is a load of shite isn't it?
It's also GBP5 cheaper than last year's apparently.
BTW it looks like Arsenal have messed with their white sleeves this year - some horrible pink-looking stripes on them.
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Luke Roper has failed. Breaking with tradition by omitting the light blue sleeves. That horrible shaded stripe effect looks awful. Would rather have adidas design the shirt.
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No blue sleeves, it's a no from me.
Same here. I see Paul Rideout in that kit.
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I don't mind it, similar to the 80s claret version. Right now a kit which we will wear for a season is the least of our worries, they could play in skins and I'd care less.
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I like them both and some of the training gear is also decent.
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Having the Luke lion logo and the AVFC lion on the same shirt is a bit much. Mr Roper should have taken the opportunity to stick his lion underneath the AVFC on the crest. Hey presto, redesign of the hated Randy badge and one less badly drawn lion on the shirt.
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No blue sleeves, it's a no from me.
Same here. I see Paul Rideout in that kit.
Is he available on a free?
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He said that it would be a nostalgia trip for Villa fans.
What that kit mostly reminds me of is the beginning of the dismantling of a European Champions side, and the construction in its place of a division 2 side.
The only thing that makes me smile of that shirt period is the memory of the Didier Six Man United game.
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I like it.
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Having the Luke lion logo and the AVFC lion on the same shirt is a bit much. Mr Roper should have taken the opportunity to stick his lion underneath the AVFC on the crest. Hey presto, redesign of the hated Randy badge and one less badly drawn lion on the shirt.
Roper’s lion look like a epileptic King Charles Spaniel.
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Not keen
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It's a grower. My first reaction was no, but viewing it from more of a side angle with the shorts and socks I like it more.
I also get the nod to the past. Just a pity that the era chosen was the last hurrah and disbanding of a great team. If he'd instead taken the 81-83 Le Coq kit as the template, I'd imagine this thread would now be a love-in
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£50 for the home shirt.
Remind me, what are the benefits for fans we were promised as part of this deal?
I checked earlier and it is 75€ so you're already making a saving!
$120 aud which is about £65 so be glad it's only £50.
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Still not keen. Wonder how much of the positive reaction has been because it's been designed by a fan?
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Love the away one
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Love the away one
me too
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Glad I bought my boy last year’s kit. Aston Villa play in claret shirts with blue sleeves. You can fuck about with daft collars and bits of crappy trim if you have to as long as it’s a proper claret with light blue sleeves. Can’t believe this was designed by a Villa fan.
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The problem I have is that we could move to some idetikit stadium out by the NEC and it looks like most people would buy into it.
It a nice modern design, I don’t see what people are complaining about, we still play in the midlands. As long as there is a pop corn shop and jester hat store.
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The shirt is so bad it's got me and Chicago agreeing with each other! 😂
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The shirt is so bad it's got me and Chicago agreeing with each other! 😂
Hey mate, I am sitting near to one of your hero’s on the plane.
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Unless he's willing to drop three divisions and play his football in Cumbernauld, he's no hero of mine.
I don't think any Scotland player of the last twenty years qualifies as a hero. 😢
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The colours are an improvement on last years. Aside from that it's not a proper Villa home shirt .I appreciate that for many that doesn't matter but for me it does. Particularly as tradition is likely to be all we will (or should ) have to cling to over the coming years .
On the other hand I can see the reasoning , with the club on it's knees and this being our 22nd home shirt since 1997.
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Don't tell him I said that, though... he has the air of a psychopath.
Don't tell him I said that, either 😨
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Meh... The shade of claret's good, the lighter red stripes are superfluous, but why not? However: there's not enough blue and the logical place for that would be the sleeves. All in all, it's as unbalanced as the badge.
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Right now we could play in royal blue and I would still only register a slight disgust. Least of our worries as at 10/07/2018.
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It was telling that they chose models rather than our departing 'star' players for the kit launch
Not quite enough blue in the home shirt for me, but I do like the style of both kits
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Smashing bit of kit
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It's not for me, but then it's not for me anyway as I don't play and I don't buy them.
I will soon be entering a stage when I have to buy one for the boy every year and they better be dramatically different, as it would really tug my boat if we were Leeds and I was spending £50 on the same shirt every year.
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It was telling that they chose models rather than our departing 'star' players for the kit launch
Not quite enough blue in the home shirt for me, but I do like the style of both kits
Agreed. Best new user name of the year, by the way. Great work!
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I like both home and away shirt designs. Sponsors logo too big though which detracts, but I suppose they maximise what they can get away with in terms of the regulations. Assuming shorts and socks are white and blue- these are winners I think. Hopefully the team will be...
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It was telling that they chose models rather than our departing 'star' players for the kit launch
Models? I thought it was next year's team.
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The new kit takes me back to 1970 when we first dumped our traditional light blue sleeves for an all claret shirt. I could dwell on the fact we got relegated to the third division in that shirt but conversely it was also the start of an incredibly exciting time to be a Villa fan. Like now, we were coming off the back of severe financial problems but the next ten years was a decade of rapid improvement culminating in our huge successes in 1981 and 1982. We have to think positively now and everyone of us, from the owner, the manager to us ordinary fans, have to suck it up and move forward together with the hand we have been dealt. We've done it before and we can do it again.
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The new kit takes me back to 1970 when we first dumped our traditional light blue sleeves for an all claret shirt. I could dwell on the fact we got relegated to the third division in that shirt but conversely it was also the start of an incredibly exciting time to be a Villa fan. Like now, we were coming off the back of severe financial problems but the next ten years was a decade of rapid improvement culminating in our huge successes in 1981 and 1982. We have to think positively now and everyone of us, from the owner, the manager to us ordinary fans, have to suck it up and move forward together with the hand we have been dealt. We've done it before and we can do it again.
Well said Big D.
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I quite like both of them but the away is my favourite . If the sleeves had been blue it would have been a really nice home kit but I think it is still ok , I like the collar a lot on both especially the white top.
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Third kit coming in a few weeks OS says
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Third kit coming in a few weeks OS says
Hopefully the same design as the home kit but yellow with claret sides. That would look amazing.
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The home kit reminds me so much of the 83/84 version that I half expected Steve McMahon to be modelling it.
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Robert Nichols (https://poetandpoem.com/Robert-Nichols)
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Third kit coming in a few weeks OS says
Hopefully the same design as the home kit but yellow with claret sides. That would look amazing.
When has a yellow kit ever looked amazing? Unless by amazing you mean literally "causing great surprise or wonder; astonishing"
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Can't remember the last time I cared what our kit looked like, it was probably when we had a kit that was claret and blue! Thankfully my son stopped wearing football shirts 3 years ago so no longer have that expense.
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Third kit coming in a few weeks OS says
Hopefully the same design as the home kit but yellow with claret sides. That would look amazing.
When has a yellow kit ever looked amazing? Unless by amazing you mean literally "causing great surprise or wonder; astonishing"
The yellow and blue kit of the late 60's / early 70's was lovely
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When has a yellow kit ever looked amazing? Unless by amazing you mean literally "causing great surprise or wonder; astonishing"
Good question. When it's Brazil yellow would be my answer. But we never use that shade
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When has a yellow kit ever looked amazing? Unless by amazing you mean literally "causing great surprise or wonder; astonishing"
Good question. When it's Brazil yellow would be my answer. But we never use that shade
I sit next to a Brazilian in work and we chatted about this the other day. In his own words: "Blue away kit - beautiful. Yellow home kit? Not on me."
Conveniently echoes my own views on the subject of yellow kits :D
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The yellow and blue kit was pretty smart when we played the Italian under 21's in a pre season friendly at Villa Park early 1970`s - the team had been on a preseason tour to Majorca I think and all the players were well tanned - many in the crowd thought those in yellow coming out of the player's tunnel were Italians and were roundly booed!
It set a trend for later years where they now get booed going down the tunnel :) :
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Third kit coming in a few weeks OS says
Hopefully the same design as the home kit but yellow with claret sides. That would look amazing.
When has a yellow kit ever looked amazing? Unless by amazing you mean literally "causing great surprise or wonder; astonishing"
Yellow and claret? I'm not Gok Wan or anything, but that sounds especially horrible.
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I liked the yellow Hanson kit
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Sorry Henson kit!! Home I didn’t like, but the away I thought was good, obviously should have had a badge
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Last time we wore a yellow kit...
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From the OS
We promised that the three-way partnership with Luke 1977 and Fanatics was not only ground-breaking but would also put our fans first.
As well as listening to supporter sentiment on the actual design – including the introduction of a more traditional claret – we have also lowered prices for the new products when compared to last season.
The adult shirt will be retailing at £50 – which is a saving of £5.
The kids top is £40 – again a reduction of £5.
The kids full kit is £70, which will save you £10.
Our infant kit is £35 while the baby kit is £30 – both are reduced by £5.
£50 instead of £55.
£70 for a kid's kit and £30 for a baby one.
Jesus Christ, that really is 'putting the fans first' isn't it?
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Third kit coming in a few weeks OS says
Hopefully the same design as the home kit but yellow with claret sides. That would look amazing.
When has a yellow kit ever looked amazing? Unless by amazing you mean literally "causing great surprise or wonder; astonishing"
Yellow and claret? I'm not Gok Wan or anything, but that sounds especially horrible.
Amen
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I liked the yellow Hanson kit
There was also the third kit in the early 90's and the Hummel kit in 2005/06 which were nice.
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I've still got mine of this, highly doubt it would fit these days though.
(https://media.e-subsidesports.com/sites/us/media/images/product/large/AstonVilla3rdSS9193a-G8.gif)
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I've still got mine of this, highly doubt it would fit these day though.
(https://media.e-subsidesports.com/sites/us/media/images/product/large/AstonVilla3rdSS9193a-G8.gif)
I bought one of those at the time, too. I thought it was one of the most lovely things I'd ever seen.
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I had it too. My mum threw it away, just because it didn't fit anymore. Ridiculous behaviour.
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I bought one last year in my size for £16. I felt like I’d stolen it!!!
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I've still got mine of this, highly doubt it would fit these days though.
(https://media.e-subsidesports.com/sites/us/media/images/product/large/AstonVilla3rdSS9193a-G8.gif)
awful! I can’t look at that shirt without thinking of the 1-0 FAcup QF defeat at Liverppol where we wore it 🙁
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From the OS
We promised that the three-way partnership with Luke 1977 and Fanatics was not only ground-breaking but would also put our fans first.
As well as listening to supporter sentiment on the actual design – including the introduction of a more traditional claret – we have also lowered prices for the new products when compared to last season.
The adult shirt will be retailing at £50 – which is a saving of £5.
The kids top is £40 – again a reduction of £5.
The kids full kit is £70, which will save you £10.
Our infant kit is £35 while the baby kit is £30 – both are reduced by £5.
£50 instead of £55.
£70 for a kid's kit and £30 for a baby one.
Jesus Christ, that really is 'putting the fans first' isn't it?
I stand corrected. I hadn't realised what an ignorant prick I'd been failing to appreciate just how beneficial this new kit deal was to me!!
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I bought one last year in my size for £16. I felt like I’d stolen it!!!
Dart Player size?
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OS has confirmed they will be releasing a third kit in a few weeks time.
https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2018/07/10/new-kits-2018-19-5-things
Personally, I think the new kit is great.
For years Villa has been the same as every other team in every other league and had a cookie-cutter kit from a template (perhaps with the exception of Macron, although their kit was terrible quality). The club has strayed away from that and is now looking at different ideas.
We should be delighted that we have a Villa fan designing our kits and that each year we are going to get something truly unique to our fantastic club, something that isn't pulled out of a template and had a few minor design tweaks or just had the colours changed.
I'm looking forward with this. Let's see how the deal with Fanatics goes and whether the quality of the kit is as good as it should be.
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A Villa fan that does not realize we play in a claret shirt with light blue sleeves.
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A Villa fan that does not realize we play in a claret shirt with light blue sleeves.
So have we always played in claret shirts with light blue sleeves?
Villa kits history (http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Aston_Villa/Aston_Villa-change-kits.html)
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We have in every year since our early seasons, except when we have had rubbish shirts, such as the one we are now lumbered with.
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We have in every year since our early seasons, except when we have had rubbish shirts, such as the one we are now lumbered with.
The point is we haven’t always played in what is considered our traditional kit. And there has been a number of instances since the 70’s where we haven’t played in blue sleeves. This is another year we won’t. I don’t see the big deal.
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I like the look of it, justhopeit’sgood quality and I”m glad we’re not just a tem
We have in every year since our early seasons, except when we have had rubbish shirts, such as the one we are now lumbered with.
Was the Muller striped shirt of the 1994 vintage rubbish then ? I don’t think so, often we remember them for how good or bad the team were that wore them IMO.I like the look of the new one, I’m glad we’re not just a template of any other club kit . I just hope the quality is good and that as we’re doing this in-house the club are getting a greater share of the revenues ... as it appears we need them👍
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We have in every year since our early seasons, except when we have had rubbish shirts, such as the one we are now lumbered with.
The point is we haven’t always played in what is considered our traditional kit. And there has been a number of instances since the 70’s where we haven’t played in blue sleeves. This is another year we won’t. I don’t see the big deal.
No we haven't always played in our traditional strip. In quite a few years, we have massively fucked it up. Like this year.
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We have in every year since our early seasons, except when we have had rubbish shirts, such as the one we are now lumbered with.
The point is we haven’t always played in what is considered our traditional kit. And there has been a number of instances since the 70’s where we haven’t played in blue sleeves. This is another year we won’t. I don’t see the big deal.
No we haven't always played in our traditional strip. In quite a few years, we have massively fucked it up. Like this year.
So you've just contradicted your statement about having played claret shirts and blue sleeves every year since our early seasons. In your opinion it's fucked up. A lot of people will love it, will buy it, or simply will fall a long way short even if they don't love it of considering it fucked up.
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Crikey, some people like it some dont. Personally love both kits and if the kits were plain claret body and blue sleeves every year I would feel more conned with granny buying 3 every year!
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We have in every year since our early seasons, except when we have had rubbish shirts, such as the one we are now lumbered with.
The point is we haven’t always played in what is considered our traditional kit. And there has been a number of instances since the 70’s where we haven’t played in blue sleeves. This is another year we won’t. I don’t see the big deal.
No we haven't always played in our traditional strip. In quite a few years, we have massively fucked it up. Like this year.
So you've just contradicted your statement about having played claret shirts and blue sleeves every year since our early seasons. In your opinion it's fucked up. A lot of people will love it, will buy it, or simply will fall a long way short even if they don't love it of considering it fucked up.
Ermmm... no, I haven't. I've reinforced the view I already stated and have highlighted in bold for your convenience.
As for "in your opinion", well, obviously. It's a discussion forum. If I was giving someone else's view I would say so.
Lots of people will love it, I'm sure. However, I think there is an element of Emperor's New Clothes about it and people are determined to like it as it is produced by a Villa fan and a "designer".
People went mad when Macron produced a shirt including what they considered to be just slightly the incorrect shade. They'd have gone mental if they'd have done the sleeves in a completely different colour.
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A Villa fan that does not realize we play in a claret shirt with light blue sleeves.
This.
In my opinion dreadful.
Macron and Under Armour were giants in comparison....
PS Mr Luke, look at these proper Villa kits.
(https://img.playbuzz.com/image/upload/c_crop/q_auto:good,f_auto,fl_lossy,w_640,c_limit/v1531219041/syysmwjgzytww7mdyhpw.jpg)
(https://img.playbuzz.com/image/upload/c_crop/q_auto:good,f_auto,fl_lossy,w_640,c_limit/v1531219540/r7sthpxppiyxsfz0j2gc.jpg)
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Good on you Archie.
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A Villa fan that does not realize we play in a claret shirt with light blue sleeves.
So have we always played in claret shirts with light blue sleeves?
Villa kits history (http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Aston_Villa/Aston_Villa-change-kits.html)
The home kits section of that link shows that since we settled on claret and blue, around 1897, there have been only about 12 or 13 versions of the shirt that were not claret body with blue sleeves, out of about 130 seasons. Most of those were in the 80s and 90s when I suppose tradition began to give way to commercial interests. I'd say that well over 100 years of playing in claret body with blue sleeves establishes it as some sort of tradition or identifier of the club, one that has been passed down through several generations. Some things should not be messed with.
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There's plenty of traditions we need to change at the Villa.
Personally I think if you're parting with £50 for your child's shirt, at least it looks different to last years.
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It would look different if we had chosen green and yellow hoops with magnolia pantaloons and beige top hats.
It still wouldn't be a Villa kit.
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It would look different if we had chosen green and yellow hoops with magnolia pantaloons and beige top hats.
It still wouldn't be a Villa kit.
I'd be all for a beige top hat. That's made me chuckle, mate.
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For a club that plays in claret and claret it looks good. For a club that plays in claret and blue, it is incomplete. As for stripes, if you must, go for 1957 as the away strip.
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So the two scenarios when deciding on a kit design here;
Don't get promotion meaning our current plight and a circling of the wagons, or
Promotion and full exposure to a worldwide fanbase again after 2 years away.
Either way with these two scenarios i'd have thought a more 'traditional' kit would've been the far better bet.
But what do I know about it, I only went to my first match 41 years ago.
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So the two scenarios when deciding on a kit design here;
Don't get promotion meaning our current plight and a circling of the wagons, or
Promotion and full exposure to a worldwide fanbase again after 2 years away.
Either way with these two scenarios i'd have thought a more 'traditional' kit would've been the far better bet.
But what do I know about it, I only went to my first match 41 years ago.
Good for you.
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It would look different if we had chosen green and yellow hoops with magnolia pantaloons and beige top hats.
It still wouldn't be a Villa kit.
Are you ITK on this third kit?
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*Taps nose.
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There's plenty of traditions we need to change at the Villa.
Personally I think if you're parting with £50 for your child's shirt, at least it looks different to last years.
Personally I think if you are parting with £50 for your child's shirt you need your head examined.
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There's plenty of traditions we need to change at the Villa.
Personally I think if you're parting with £50 for your child's shirt, at least it looks different to last years.
Personally I think if you are parting with £50 for your child's shirt you need your head examined.
An easy wash quick dry top that they will wear at pretty much every opportunity for a year. Of course they are expensive but they get their usage!
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It's an odd feeling, being vaguely in agreement with Ads.
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Bring back airtex
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Maybe it's a generational thing. When I started supporting the shirt was first and foremost designed for the team to represent the club, and we kept the same/similar shirts for several years. These days it seems it has to be designed as a "fashion item" even if generally only catering for under 12s and middle aged blokes with beer bellies, to generate commercial income which I suppose the club has to do, . I still don't see why a variation on the theme of claret body blue sleeves is not sufficient for some though, when other famous clubs do slight variations on their shirts rather than wholesale changes. If you want variations, stripes, hoops, pink spots, surely the diversity of away kits should meet your needs?
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Bring back airtex
This! I loved my Umbro airtex shirt. My mum sewed a white no.8 on the back for me so I could pretend to be my hero. Happy days :D
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A Villa fan that does not realize we play in a claret shirt with light blue sleeves.
So have we always played in claret shirts with light blue sleeves?
Villa kits history (http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Aston_Villa/Aston_Villa-change-kits.html)
The home kits section of that link shows that since we settled on claret and blue, around 1897, there have been only about 12 or 13 versions of the shirt that were not claret body with blue sleeves, out of about 130 seasons. Most of those were in the 80s and 90s when I suppose tradition began to give way to commercial interests. I'd say that well over 100 years of playing in claret body with blue sleeves establishes it as some sort of tradition or identifier of the club, one that has been passed down through several generations. Some things should not be messed with.
I couldn't agree more.
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Bring back airtex
This! I loved my Umbro airtex shirt. My mum sewed a white no.8 on the back for me so I could pretend to be my hero. Happy days :D
I had the white one :)
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That new claret track top is a thing of beauty
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It’s funny what some people have strong opinions about. I honestly give 0 shits about blue sleeves. I’ve had the last couple of home kits and only wear them to the game or round the house. I think I would be more likely to wear the new all claret shirt more. We’re not the only ones ditching tradition to make shirts more casual fashion wear, an example is the more traditional striped clubs such as Southampton, Newcastle, Juventus, Barca trying to get away from their standards stripes and mixing up frequency/width of stripes. The more fashionable a shirt is, I guess the more they sell. It’s the way of the world now
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There's an oft-quoted stat/urban myth that our best selling replica shirt ever was the striped one from the mid-90s.
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Brexit, Trump, stripes. Never trust the public.
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It’s funny what some people have strong opinions about. I honestly give 0 shits about blue sleeves. I’ve had the last couple of home kits and only wear them to the game or round the house. I think I would be more likely to wear the new all claret shirt more. We’re not the only ones ditching tradition to make shirts more casual fashion wear, an example is the more traditional striped clubs such as Southampton, Newcastle, Juventus, Barca trying to get away from their standards stripes and mixing up frequency/width of stripes. The more fashionable a shirt is, I guess the more they sell. It’s the way of the world now
They are still stripes though aren't they? Which is what they are all known for. So I'm not sure how your comparison supports them ditching tradition, only that they are tweaking the traditional look. I don't recall any of them switching to a solid single colour shirt, whereas we have switched to stripes at least twice and from blue sleeves a few times recently.
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It’s funny what some people have strong opinions about. I honestly give 0 shits about blue sleeves. I’ve had the last couple of home kits and only wear them to the game or round the house. I think I would be more likely to wear the new all claret shirt more. We’re not the only ones ditching tradition to make shirts more casual fashion wear, an example is the more traditional striped clubs such as Southampton, Newcastle, Juventus, Barca trying to get away from their standards stripes and mixing up frequency/width of stripes. The more fashionable a shirt is, I guess the more they sell. It’s the way of the world now
They are still stripes though aren't they? Which is what they are all known for. So I'm not sure how your comparison supports them ditching tradition, only that they are tweaking the traditional look. I don't recall any of them switching to a solid single colour shirt, whereas we have switched to stripes at least twice and from blue sleeves a few times recently.
Southampton literally just had a home kit with no stripes last season.
I just don't see the point at all in being dogmatic about our sleeves. They'll be back. Change every now and then, temporarily, is fine. We have bigger concerns.
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It’s funny what some people have strong opinions about. I honestly give 0 shits about blue sleeves. I’ve had the last couple of home kits and only wear them to the game or round the house. I think I would be more likely to wear the new all claret shirt more. We’re not the only ones ditching tradition to make shirts more casual fashion wear, an example is the more traditional striped clubs such as Southampton, Newcastle, Juventus, Barca trying to get away from their standards stripes and mixing up frequency/width of stripes. The more fashionable a shirt is, I guess the more they sell. It’s the way of the world now
They are still stripes though aren't they? Which is what they are all known for. So I'm not sure how your comparison supports them ditching tradition, only that they are tweaking the traditional look. I don't recall any of them switching to a solid single colour shirt, whereas we have switched to stripes at least twice and from blue sleeves a few times recently.
Barcelona have had a half and half shirt and hoops in recent years. And I have no idea what last years one was.
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That new claret track top is a thing of beauty
I agree Sir.
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There's an oft-quoted stat/urban myth that our best selling replica shirt ever was the striped one from the mid-90s.
And that one, along with it's green/black away cousin was a true abomination on every possible level IMHO
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I think one of the issues here is that people are discussing matters of personal taste and preference as though they were matters of fact. I prefer a more traditional shirt with blue sleeves but I was talking to somebody yesterday who likes a bit of variety and thinks this one is great.
I am just hoping that we defy the odds next season and that in the future the shirt is remembered fondly as the one we wore when we got promoted.
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There's an oft-quoted stat/urban myth that our best selling replica shirt ever was the striped one from the mid-90s.
And that one, along with it's green/black away cousin was a true abomination on every possible level IMHO
I got my dates wrong. The one that's apparently our best seller was the 1999/2000 kit.
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The 99/00 shirt may well have sold loads because we reached the Cup Final that year (although we didn't turn up for it), and I remember the club were flogging them by the boatload for a tenner in the run up to Wembley.
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There's an oft-quoted stat/urban myth that our best selling replica shirt ever was the striped one from the mid-90s.
And that one, along with it's green/black away cousin was a true abomination on every possible level IMHO
I got my dates wrong. The one that's apparently our best seller was the 1999/2000 kit.
ah right, not a bad one that. WAY better than that Asics monstrosity i was thinking of
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Well at least we’re not Wigan:
(http://www.footballshirtculture.com/images/stories/wigan-athletic-2018-2019-puma-home-kit/wigan_athletic_18_19_puma_home_kit_a.jpg)
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There's an oft-quoted stat/urban myth that our best selling replica shirt ever was the striped one from the mid-90s.
And that one, along with it's green/black away cousin was a true abomination on every possible level IMHO
I got my dates wrong. The one that's apparently our best seller was the 1999/2000 kit.
ah right, not a bad one that. WAY better than that Asics monstrosity i was thinking of
I preferred the Asics one myself. The stripes were too thick on the 99/00 one.
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I parted with my £10 to get the Reebok stripes with Wembley 2000 embroidered on to help shift them. It's the last replica shirt I bought, which perhaps indicates both my age and the fact that it's not necessarily how the claret and blue is incorporated into the design, but the occasion it represents.
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Well at least we’re not Wigan:
(http://www.footballshirtculture.com/images/stories/wigan-athletic-2018-2019-puma-home-kit/wigan_athletic_18_19_puma_home_kit_a.jpg)
What’s wrong with that kit? Looks ok to me.
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That looks like the kind of shirt indoor five a side teams would wear.
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Well at least we’re not Wigan:
(http://www.footballshirtculture.com/images/stories/wigan-athletic-2018-2019-puma-home-kit/wigan_athletic_18_19_puma_home_kit_a.jpg)
What’s wrong with that kit? Looks ok to me.
It looks like a tube of toothpaste.
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That looks like the kind of shirt indoor five a side teams would wear.
Or the one the kid in the shop who sells them would be wearing as he has no choice.
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That looks like the kind of shirt indoor five a side teams would wear.
Or the one the kid in the shop who sells them would be wearing as he has no choice.
Or in fact the sort of top DW Fitness hands out as a joining gift to new members.
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That looks like the kind of shirt indoor five a side teams would wear.
Or the one the kid in the shop who sells them would be wearing as he has no choice.
Or in fact the sort of top DW Fitness hands out as a joining gift to new members.
Or the sort of derided, mocked "who-are-yous" who turn up at Villa Park, surprise the home support with their organisation and desire, and return back up the M6 with 3 points.
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The 1994 vs 1999 shirt debate..... 1994 all the way.
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Well at least we’re not Wigan:
(http://www.footballshirtculture.com/images/stories/wigan-athletic-2018-2019-puma-home-kit/wigan_athletic_18_19_puma_home_kit_a.jpg)
What’s wrong with that kit? Looks ok to me.
It looks like a tube of toothpaste.
It's a shirt from when they were in the 3rd division in the 90s.
Apart from the sponsor logo it looks very nice.
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Yeah, I quite like that.
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It's a bit Aquafresh. Hope the Wigan players all brush their teeth properly.
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The new kit is nice not that I will be buying it or anything like that I just think it's the shirts would drape well on the shoulders of the team when the Championship trophy is paraded at villa Park.
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Much as I'm an old traditionalist and would like blue sleeves on our home shirt, I do think the away one looks really good.
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Our home one is great. The away is much of a muchness.
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Well at least we’re not Wigan:
(http://www.footballshirtculture.com/images/stories/wigan-athletic-2018-2019-puma-home-kit/wigan_athletic_18_19_puma_home_kit_a.jpg)
What’s wrong with that kit? Looks ok to me.
It looks like a tube of toothpaste.
It's a shirt from when they were in the 3rd division in the 90s.
Apart from the sponsor logo it looks very nice.
Nothing wrong with the sponsors.
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At least everyone knows where the fanzine money ends up now.
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From my straw poll consisting of my sons and their extensive instafacebookchat friends, all of whom are at kit buying age. This kit is sick, da bomb and dench.
So it should be a success commercially, fingers crossed.
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It's more like a reminder than a sponsor.
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From my straw poll consisting of my sons and their extensive instafacebookchat friends, all of whom are at kit buying age. This kit is sick, da bomb and dench.
So it should be a success commercially, fingers crossed.
Dench? As in Judi no doubt.
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See also 'peng' in North London and 'fetch' in Mean Girls.
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I think one of the issues here is that people are discussing matters of personal taste and preference as though they were matters of fact. I prefer a more traditional shirt with blue sleeves but I was talking to somebody yesterday who likes a bit of variety and thinks this one is great.
I am just hoping that we defy the odds next season and that in the future the shirt is remembered fondly as the one we wore when we got promoted.
Sure it's opinion but as Ive said elsewhere though Chris, for those who want "variety", there is the opportunity to do whatever you like with the away strip to cater for all tastes, I really don't see the need to meddle with the traditional colours in the name of "variety". Just a hunch but I'd hazard a guess that those not bothered by the blue sleeve thing are perhaps those who started supporting in the 80s or 90s when mucking about with the kit had become common place. That said there are those who get the hump when our away strip isn't plain white, and I've never seen the attachment to that.
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I think one of the issues here is that people are discussing matters of personal taste and preference as though they were matters of fact. I prefer a more traditional shirt with blue sleeves but I was talking to somebody yesterday who likes a bit of variety and thinks this one is great.
I am just hoping that we defy the odds next season and that in the future the shirt is remembered fondly as the one we wore when we got promoted.
Sure it's opinion but as Ive said elsewhere though Chris, for those who want "variety", there is the opportunity to do whatever you like with the away strip to cater for all tastes, I really don't see the need to meddle with the traditional colours in the name of "variety". Just a hunch but I'd hazard a guess that those not bothered by the blue sleeve thing are perhaps those who started supporting in the 80s or 90s when mucking about with the kit had become common place. That said there are those who get the hump when our away strip isn't plain white, and I've never seen the attachment to that.
We haven't, it's claret and blue. If it was claret and green i could get behind your cause.
I was first introduced to Villa as a kid in the late 70's, with the classic Umbro kit. Count me as one of those who isn't bothered by the occasional tweak of the home shirt as long as it's in the correct colours.
I was more offended by not playing in claret for the last god knows how many seasons personally. At least we've sorted that.
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Well at least we’re not Wigan:
(http://www.footballshirtculture.com/images/stories/wigan-athletic-2018-2019-puma-home-kit/wigan_athletic_18_19_puma_home_kit_a.jpg)
What’s wrong with that kit? Looks ok to me.
It looks like a tube of toothpaste.
It's a shirt from when they were in the 3rd division in the 90s.
Apart from the sponsor logo it looks very nice.
Nothing wrong with the sponsors.
It looks good retro feel to it.
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I think one of the issues here is that people are discussing matters of personal taste and preference as though they were matters of fact. I prefer a more traditional shirt with blue sleeves but I was talking to somebody yesterday who likes a bit of variety and thinks this one is great.
I am just hoping that we defy the odds next season and that in the future the shirt is remembered fondly as the one we wore when we got promoted.
Sure it's opinion but as Ive said elsewhere though Chris, for those who want "variety", there is the opportunity to do whatever you like with the away strip to cater for all tastes, I really don't see the need to meddle with the traditional colours in the name of "variety". Just a hunch but I'd hazard a guess that those not bothered by the blue sleeve thing are perhaps those who started supporting in the 80s or 90s when mucking about with the kit had become common place. That said there are those who get the hump when our away strip isn't plain white, and I've never seen the attachment to that.
We haven't, it's claret and blue. If it was claret and green i could get behind your cause.
I was first introduced to Villa as a kid in the late 70's, with the classic Umbro kit. Count me as one of those who isn't bothered by the occasional tweak of the home shirt as long as it's in the correct colours.
I was more offended by not playing in claret for the last god knows how many seasons personally. At least we've sorted that.
Yes we have. Traditionally (well over 100 seasons) the sleeves are blue. This one has hardly any blue worth mentioning.
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I think one of the issues here is that people are discussing matters of personal taste and preference as though they were matters of fact. I prefer a more traditional shirt with blue sleeves but I was talking to somebody yesterday who likes a bit of variety and thinks this one is great.
I am just hoping that we defy the odds next season and that in the future the shirt is remembered fondly as the one we wore when we got promoted.
Sure it's opinion but as Ive said elsewhere though Chris, for those who want "variety", there is the opportunity to do whatever you like with the away strip to cater for all tastes, I really don't see the need to meddle with the traditional colours in the name of "variety". Just a hunch but I'd hazard a guess that those not bothered by the blue sleeve thing are perhaps those who started supporting in the 80s or 90s when mucking about with the kit had become common place. That said there are those who get the hump when our away strip isn't plain white, and I've never seen the attachment to that.
We haven't, it's claret and blue. If it was claret and green i could get behind your cause.
I was first introduced to Villa as a kid in the late 70's, with the classic Umbro kit. Count me as one of those who isn't bothered by the occasional tweak of the home shirt as long as it's in the correct colours.
I was more offended by not playing in claret for the last god knows how many seasons personally. At least we've sorted that.
Yes we have. Traditionally (well over 100 seasons) the sleeves are blue. This one has hardly any blue worth mentioning.
Apart from 1969-70, 1983 - 87, 1993 - 95 & 2001-02,
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I think this kit gets more right than it gets wrong personally, I would like the sleeves to be blue (or mostly blue) but given everything else about it I can accept that design choice and I understand why he made it. The clues were in the video posted early on in this thread, he spoke about the kits he grew up with and how much he liked them and we got a modern version of one of them. I posted around the same time that he was a villa fan, he knows the club and what the fans want in a kit and that he'd only go against that if he had a good reason. It turns out his love of a retro kit from when he was a kid is his good reason. I suspect he realised that and offset it by offering a more traditional (in a sense) away kit.
Overall I think he's done a decent job and across the range of everything I'd say it's the best stuff we come out with for a long time.
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When will it be in the shop? I can't see an on sale date on the online store?
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When will it be in the shop? I can't see an on sale date on the online store?
Orders were being posted out today, available in the club shop from Wednesday
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I'm too old to wear a replica shirt. Does anyone know if its it just kits and training wear he's designing or are there polo shirts etc?
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I'm too old to wear a replica shirt. Does anyone know if its it just kits and training wear he's designing or are there polo shirts etc?
There are polo shirts, they look quite good and you will find them in the online store.
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I think one of the issues here is that people are discussing matters of personal taste and preference as though they were matters of fact. I prefer a more traditional shirt with blue sleeves but I was talking to somebody yesterday who likes a bit of variety and thinks this one is great.
I am just hoping that we defy the odds next season and that in the future the shirt is remembered fondly as the one we wore when we got promoted.
Sure it's opinion but as Ive said elsewhere though Chris, for those who want "variety", there is the opportunity to do whatever you like with the away strip to cater for all tastes, I really don't see the need to meddle with the traditional colours in the name of "variety". Just a hunch but I'd hazard a guess that those not bothered by the blue sleeve thing are perhaps those who started supporting in the 80s or 90s when mucking about with the kit had become common place. That said there are those who get the hump when our away strip isn't plain white, and I've never seen the attachment to that.
We haven't, it's claret and blue. If it was claret and green i could get behind your cause.
I was first introduced to Villa as a kid in the late 70's, with the classic Umbro kit. Count me as one of those who isn't bothered by the occasional tweak of the home shirt as long as it's in the correct colours.
I was more offended by not playing in claret for the last god knows how many seasons personally. At least we've sorted that.
Yes we have. Traditionally (well over 100 seasons) the sleeves are blue. This one has hardly any blue worth mentioning.
Apart from 1969-70, 1983 - 87, 1993 - 95 & 2001-02,
Apart from eight seasons in the last hundred-odd. That sounds pretty traditional to me.
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And they weren't, on the whole, our most successful!
but I still quite like it
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Slight confession though, despite my firm affinity with the blue sleeve model, the 8 year old me absolutely loved the 1969-70 kit both home and away. I went FKW on both. I suppose because it was quite a novel design with the collars and triangle, one which pretty much every team copied over the next few years. It was the coolest strip around at the time and was also introduced when we were supposedly about to turn things around with the Doc in charge and there was a good vibe around the place for the first time in ages. Sadly it didn't last long.
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Slight confession though, despite my firm affinity with the blue sleeve model, the 8 year old me absolutely loved the 1969-70 kit both home and away. I went FKW on both. I suppose because it was quite a novel design with the collars and triangle, one which pretty much every team copied over the next few years. It was the coolest strip around at the time and was also introduced when we were supposedly about to turn things around with the Doc in charge and there was a good vibe around the place for the first time in ages. Sadly it didn't last long.
I loved the yellow and blue away strip - and it was made from thick cotton material :)
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I'm too old to wear a replica shirt. Does anyone know if its it just kits and training wear he's designing or are there polo shirts etc?
I don’t think there is any age bar or indeed a massively unfit bar. It’s like Prince ‘humorously racist’ Phillip being dressed in full military uniform at the age of whatever he is. Dignity? Well that’s another matter.
Also IT HASN’T GOT BLUE SLEEVES. Ahem, sorry.
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How did they look "in the flesh" for anyone at Telford?
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How did they look "in the flesh" for anyone at Telford?
This video might have to suffice until you can visit the club shop. I'm being dragged their tomorrow morning as the nephew wants BOTH
Mind you, i'm quite tempted myself despite being a fat bastard. I don't do polo shirts so it's home top or nothing. Well, unless i go for that bostin' claret jacket
https://youtu.be/o68gvhnp6uU
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How did they look "in the flesh" for anyone at Telford?
This video might have to suffice until you can visit the club shop. I'm being dragged their tomorrow morning as the nephew wants BOTH
Mind you, i'm quite tempted myself despite being a fat bastard. I don't do polo shirts so it's home top or nothing. Well, unless i go for that bostin' claret jacket
https://youtu.be/o68gvhnp6uU
Do they have our size?
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I like the new home top. It reminds me of the 1983 home top which I always liked.
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I like the new home top. It reminds me of the 1983 home top which I always liked.
Same. It’s one I remember fondly too...a bit like my wedge haircut
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I always associate the 1983 home top with Duran Duran's John Taylor.
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And the greatest team we ever had being torn apart...
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It was all going well until this:
https://twitter.com/lukeroper/status/1019317814442815488?s=21
Modified names and numbers
https://www.luke1977.com/c/avfc-football-shirts/2.htm
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It was all going well until this:
https://twitter.com/lukeroper/status/1019317814442815488?s=21
Modified names and numbers
https://www.luke1977.com/c/avfc-football-shirts/2.htm
I don’t think that’s a bad thing. It’s aimed at a specific demographic. I think it’s very smart to offer a service floor that for a younger generation of fans. The official kit and numbering will still be dictated by the EFL.
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I suppose, just showing my age I guess. Not aimed at me and if it brings in more revenue for the club / Luke then can only be a good thing. Look pretty ropey some of them though.
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Kids are going to love this. About time we got our marketing right.
Can’t say I’m a fan of the “Tiger Camo” 😝
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None of that particularly bothers me. Seems a sensible way of increasing sales.
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It was all going well until this:
https://twitter.com/lukeroper/status/1019317814442815488?s=21
Modified names and numbers
https://www.luke1977.com/c/avfc-football-shirts/2.htm
Literally, a brilliant marketing idea and one i'm guessing is unique to us like the strips. The club have become the first to embrace something new that appeals to a whole new generation of supporters.
I can't think of a single reason why anyone wouldn't applaud that.
This isn't aimed at me or you.
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Very continental.About time.
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Could be developed further, a bit of a 'temporary tattoo' idea to it, for example get a little patch on the arm with a message from/to your parents/partner late relative etc, rather than EFL badge etc.
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Genuine non-sarky question - are there any discounts for ST holders? Or is it full price for all?
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It was all going well until this:
https://twitter.com/lukeroper/status/1019317814442815488?s=21
Modified names and numbers
https://www.luke1977.com/c/avfc-football-shirts/2.htm
Literally, a brilliant marketing idea and one i'm guessing is unique to us like the strips. The club have become the first to embrace something new that appeals to a whole new generation of supporters.
I can't think of a single reason why anyone wouldn't applaud that.
This isn't aimed at me or you.
That is sic man 😉
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It's a positive step. I'd like if it you were able to customise the sleeves too. Maybe, turn them blue?
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Genuine non-sarky question - are there any discounts for ST holders? Or is it full price for all?
My understanding is that you need to load the money onto your season card and then you earn 'reward points' from buying it.
so - no discount then - sorry.
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Genuine non-sarky question - are there any discounts for ST holders? Or is it full price for all?
Full price but i think you get some bonus points added to your card or something when buying stuff from the shop ?
I've paid full price and didn't have my card with me (they're sending me a new one as we've relocated next season)
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Interesting that most of the PR blurb released so far has fans decked out in the shirts.
No point chancing a campaign with any of the playing staff, it seems.
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I pre ordered 4 away shirts for the family. All arrived this morning and the right size. What a difference to last year when it took months to get the largest size then they sent 2 and I had to post 1 back.
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Are they regular size or as slim-fit and snug as they appear?
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It's a positive step. I'd like if it you were able to customise the sleeves too. Maybe, turn them blue?
Why not sew on some blue sleeves from an old kit.Just a suggestion.
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It's a positive step. I'd like if it you were able to customise the sleeves too. Maybe, turn them blue?
Why not sew on some blue sleeves from an old kit.Just a suggestion.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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It's a positive step. I'd like if it you were able to customise the sleeves too. Maybe, turn them blue?
Why not sew on some blue sleeves from an old kit.Just a suggestion.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Or cut the sleeves off and dye your arms blue.
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I suppose I could just put my arms in the freezer for a while.
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It looks good on Papa Smurf.
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It's basically cool look.
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I've really warmed to the new shirt so I had a look at the online shop today.
At 50 sheets a pop, I'll wait till next summer's sale.
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It's basically cool look.
My thoughts excatly.
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already sold out of the XXL's
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Milliseconds of delusional optimism and a last minute plan to go to Devon on holiday Sunday, anyway be know if I can buy a shirt in London?
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I think both shirts, including the shorts and socks combo are fabulous and is a refreshing release from all the other mind numbingly negative shit we are enduring
Well Done Luke Roper an the Villa merchandising teams
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Club shop yesterday had no socks for the kit and only a small selection of the training gear. Rest due in early August. One day you'll get there on launch day and they will have everything you want and with plentiful stock. That day may arrived but probably not in my lifetime.
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Club shop yesterday had no socks for the kit and only a small selection of the training gear. Rest due in early August. One day you'll get there on launch day and they will have everything you want and with plentiful stock. That day may arrived but probably not in my lifetime.
Next you’ll be asking for the kit to be released in time for Father’s Day 🤔
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I was going the weekend to get the blue fashion top have they got any ? If not I won't bother
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No, check the website as it lasted dates for each item
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I think both shirts, including the shorts and socks combo are fabulous and is a refreshing release from all the other mind numbingly negative shit we are enduring
Well Done Luke Roper an the Villa merchandising teams
Nowt ropey about our Luke.
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It's a positive step. I'd like if it you were able to customise the sleeves too. Maybe, turn them blue?
Have a Heart.
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For those interested in a new shirt, I was able to use a combination of voucher and TopCashBack to get an adult shirt for £30 delivered rather than the the usual £50.
If you are not already a member of TopCashBack, use the below link to get £15 cashback on your order:
https://www.topcashback.co.uk/kitbag-promotions/
I also used code POUCH10 on the Kitbag site to get 10% (£5) off the original price.
Happy shopping!
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Looks like the away kit has completely sold out already. Disappeared from the site
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Looks like the away kit has completely sold out already. Disappeared from the site
The kids one is still on there, which is good as I'm going to the store to buy both for my sons birthday tomorrow!
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For those interested in a new shirt, I was able to use a combination of voucher and TopCashBack to get an adult shirt for £30 delivered rather than the the usual £50.
If you are not already a member of TopCashBack, use the below link to get £15 cashback on your order:
https://www.topcashback.co.uk/kitbag-promotions/
I also used code POUCH10 on the Kitbag site to get 10% (£5) off the original price.
Happy shopping!
I am a member of TCB, just clicked on that link and it is for selected members only!!!
I am only a classic member though. Are you a 'plus' member?
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For those interested in a new shirt, I was able to use a combination of voucher and TopCashBack to get an adult shirt for £30 delivered rather than the the usual £50.
If you are not already a member of TopCashBack, use the below link to get £15 cashback on your order:
https://www.topcashback.co.uk/kitbag-promotions/
I also used code POUCH10 on the Kitbag site to get 10% (£5) off the original price.
Happy shopping!
I am a member of TCB, just clicked on that link and it is for selected members only!!!
I am only a classic member though. Are you a 'plus' member?
The £15 is for new TopCashBack members only. Otherwise it's just the usual cashback %.
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Just receuved following email from shop re purchase of XXL size shirt:
Thank you for your email to Aston Villa Direct Customer Services.
This product has been incredibly popular and demand has exceeded all expectations. Because of this, we are really sorry to tell you that it’s out of stock.
We do not have a date when it will be back in stock and there’s a chance we won’t get more in the foreseeable future.
Why not browse shop.avfc.co.uk and see if you can find anything similar? Our website is updated regularly with new and exciting products at great prices. Alternatively, you can call our customer service team who will be happy to help you find something similar.
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Just receuved following email from shop re purchase of XXL size shirt:
Thank you for your email to Aston Villa Direct Customer Services.
This product has been incredibly popular and demand has exceeded all expectations. Because of this, we are really sorry to tell you that it’s out of stock.
We do not have a date when it will be back in stock and there’s a chance we won’t get more in the foreseeable future.
Why not browse shop.avfc.co.uk and see if you can find anything similar? Our website is updated regularly with new and exciting products at great prices. Alternatively, you can call our customer service team who will be happy to help you find something similar.
What? Wasn't that part of the fanatics concept? Meet demand easier etc
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Just receuved following email from shop re purchase of XXL size shirt:
Thank you for your email to Aston Villa Direct Customer Services.
This product has been incredibly popular and demand has exceeded all expectations. Because of this, we are really sorry to tell you that it’s out of stock.
We do not have a date when it will be back in stock and there’s a chance we won’t get more in the foreseeable future.
Why not browse shop.avfc.co.uk and see if you can find anything similar? Our website is updated regularly with new and exciting products at great prices. Alternatively, you can call our customer service team who will be happy to help you find something similar.
That looks a bit of a standard email, I can’t imagine they won’t restock kits
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For those interested in a new shirt, I was able to use a combination of voucher and TopCashBack to get an adult shirt for £30 delivered rather than the the usual £50.
If you are not already a member of TopCashBack, use the below link to get £15 cashback on your order:
https://www.topcashback.co.uk/kitbag-promotions/
I also used code POUCH10 on the Kitbag site to get 10% (£5) off the original price.
Happy shopping!
I am a member of TCB, just clicked on that link and it is for selected members only!!!
I am only a classic member though. Are you a 'plus' member?
The £15 is for new TopCashBack members only. Otherwise it's just the usual cashback %.
Fairplay.
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Just receuved following email from shop re purchase of XXL size shirt:
Thank you for your email to Aston Villa Direct Customer Services.
This product has been incredibly popular and demand has exceeded all expectations. Because of this, we are really sorry to tell you that it’s out of stock.
We do not have a date when it will be back in stock and there’s a chance we won’t get more in the foreseeable future.
Why not browse shop.avfc.co.uk and see if you can find anything similar? Our website is updated regularly with new and exciting products at great prices. Alternatively, you can call our customer service team who will be happy to help you find something similar.
Maybe email them back and ask them about this?
As both retail partner and kit manufacturer, Fanatics will operate a full vertical-manufacturing model, meaning the new kit, bearing the LUKE 1977 brand logo, will be managed by a single company from production to point-of-sale. This means fan merchandise enjoys faster speed-to-market in an increasingly on-demand world.
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No, check the website as it lasted dates for each item
It says available online but don't know if it's in stock in the shop
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Talk about taking the piss, Tottenham’s away or third kit this season by Nike is the same as Barcelona’s training gear.
(https://thumb.ibb.co/cVmt8d/61066407_F4_BF_4_E47_AF3_F_A9_E3_BF41_FB3_A.png) (https://ibb.co/cVmt8d)
(https://thumb.ibb.co/mxUruJ/F3721_BB3_0_B03_4151_83_BD_8_A4_AD9_F69_B0_A.png) (https://ibb.co/mxUruJ)
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Just receuved following email from shop re purchase of XXL size shirt:
Thank you for your email to Aston Villa Direct Customer Services.
This product has been incredibly popular and demand has exceeded all expectations. Because of this, we are really sorry to tell you that it’s out of stock.
We do not have a date when it will be back in stock and there’s a chance we won’t get more in the foreseeable future.
Why not browse shop.avfc.co.uk and see if you can find anything similar? Our website is updated regularly with new and exciting products at great prices. Alternatively, you can call our customer service team who will be happy to help you find something similar.
Maybe email them back and ask them about this?
As both retail partner and kit manufacturer, Fanatics will operate a full vertical-manufacturing model, meaning the new kit, bearing the LUKE 1977 brand logo, will be managed by a single company from production to point-of-sale. This means fan merchandise enjoys faster speed-to-market in an increasingly on-demand world.
All that bullshit about "special for the fans" too.
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Talk about taking the piss, Tottenham’s away or third kit this season by Nike is the same as Barcelona’s training gear.
(https://thumb.ibb.co/cVmt8d/61066407_F4_BF_4_E47_AF3_F_A9_E3_BF41_FB3_A.png) (https://ibb.co/cVmt8d)
(https://thumb.ibb.co/mxUruJ/F3721_BB3_0_B03_4151_83_BD_8_A4_AD9_F69_B0_A.png) (https://ibb.co/mxUruJ)
well Nike couldn't be arsed then
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They had XXl and XXXL in the shop today
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They had XXl and XXXL in the shop today
I meant online. Apparently more are on the way
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Just bought kids home and away kits for our youngest son’s eighth birthday ..... No socks available for either with no date when they are due. I want to do my best to give money to our club to help in any way I can, they seem determined to stop me 🙁
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XXXL? Bloody hell.
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XXXL? Bloody hell.
That's Micah's.
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It really does make an absolute mockery of all the bollocks about this being a great deal for fans when we're half way through July and you can't get replica kit already.
It just smacks of the deal being done because it was the cheap option.
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It really does make an absolute mockery of all the bollocks about this being a great deal for fans when we're half way through July and you can't get replica kit already.
It just smacks of the deal being done because it was the cheap option.
Or it's been that popular, we're waiting for more supplies?
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XXXL? Bloody hell.
What's wrong with that?
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XXXL? Bloody hell.
What's wrong with that?
The sleeves are the wrong colour.
We've been over this.
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XXXL? Bloody hell.
What's wrong with that?
The sleeves are the wrong colour.
We've been over this.
And the tent pegs
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XXXL? Bloody hell.
What's wrong with that?
Depends if you've got a massive chest because you're hench I suppose. If not, there's an irony in buying sportswear when you're that size.
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It really does make an absolute mockery of all the bollocks about this being a great deal for fans when we're half way through July and you can't get replica kit already.
It just smacks of the deal being done because it was the cheap option.
Mind you it was said at a time we all thought things were in decent order. Not the utter disaster it turned out to be. And when shit started to go down Luke probably thought I want to get paid for X amount of socks and shorts versus be stuck with an unpaid invoice.
Seriously though the one thing the Americano’s do well is sports (not named Lerner) is merchandise and fan engagement. The Bucks have done really well in that regard so will be interested to see ideas Edens brings. But overall as critically who these guys put in place for day to day operations of all kinds of functions.
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They have just built a new state of the art arena too. I wonder if they have staff who know how to serve customers quickly??
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XXXL? Bloody hell.
What's wrong with that?
Depends if you've got a massive chest because you're hench I suppose. If not, there's an irony in buying sportswear when you're that size.
How about people who spend most of their life in a wheelchair and need a bigger size for various reasons all connected to being stuck in a wheelchair?
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It really does make an absolute mockery of all the bollocks about this being a great deal for fans when we're half way through July and you can't get replica kit already.
It just smacks of the deal being done because it was the cheap option.
If anything it says the kit has been an enormous success surely ?
Still. Some folks have to have a moan!
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XXXL? Bloody hell.
What's wrong with that?
Depends if you've got a massive chest because you're hench I suppose. If not, there's an irony in buying sportswear when you're that size.
How about people who spend most of their life in a wheelchair and need a bigger size for various reasons all connected to being stuck in a wheelchair?
Wheelchair or not, sportswear isn't fashionable.
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I like a slightly baggier fit. In the current retro range or the older Reebok, Asics, Diadora and Nike I am very comfortable in an XXL. Macron onwards I am XXXL. Doesn't help having very broad shoulder. I am very tall and broad and not at all sporting a belly. Should I buy a new shirt - and not sure I will as it's hasn't got blue sleeves and I much prefer the 84 retro version I probably would be either XXL or next one up.
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Obviously the club are not upto speed on the training wear ..... went to VP yesterday to look with intention of buying several items ..... basically nothing there ...one colour polo shirt but only 5 in total all small
Its areas like this where we are second rate ...I would have expected this to be fully right ready for its launch but obviously not
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Rang the store and didn't sound like much kids stuff left so didnt bother making the trip. Went to luke store in town and they had lots and very helpful staff. Very nice shirts
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It’s the same every year. Why on Earth they don’t stick every item in great numbers I’ll never know.
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It really does make an absolute mockery of all the bollocks about this being a great deal for fans when we're half way through July and you can't get replica kit already.
It just smacks of the deal being done because it was the cheap option.
Or it's been that popular, we're waiting for more supplies?
But the main thrust of the deal was that Fanatics are vertically integrated so we'd get supplies quicker.
Has this shirt really been that popular?!
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It doesn't matter how many times I come on here, the sleeves still aren't blue. I'm going to give up.
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Surely in this day and age someone can invent some special glasses that make the sleeves look blue?
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It was all going well until this:
https://twitter.com/lukeroper/status/1019317814442815488?s=21
Modified names and numbers
https://www.luke1977.com/c/avfc-football-shirts/2.htm
Literally, a brilliant marketing idea and one i'm guessing is unique to us like the strips. The club have become the first to embrace something new that appeals to a whole new generation of supporters.
I can't think of a single reason why anyone wouldn't applaud that.
This isn't aimed at me or you.
I dn’t get it. Couldn’t you always have your name and number on it?
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XXXL? Bloody hell.
What's wrong with that?
Depends if you've got a massive chest because you're hench I suppose. If not, there's an irony in buying sportswear when you're that size.
How about people who spend most of their life in a wheelchair and need a bigger size for various reasons all connected to being stuck in a wheelchair?
Wheelchair or not, sportswear isn't fashionable.
Which has fuck all to do with your first unsavoury foray into commenting on larger shirt sizes.
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It was all going well until this:
https://twitter.com/lukeroper/status/1019317814442815488?s=21
Modified names and numbers
https://www.luke1977.com/c/avfc-football-shirts/2.htm
Literally, a brilliant marketing idea and one i'm guessing is unique to us like the strips. The club have become the first to embrace something new that appeals to a whole new generation of supporters.
I can't think of a single reason why anyone wouldn't applaud that.
This isn't aimed at me or you.
I dn’t get it. Couldn’t you always have your name and number on it?
I think it's the different styles Percy. You can have your name and number in a tiger skin pattern now, with a load of stars too.
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I dn’t get it. Couldn’t you always have your name and number on it?
You probably need to view the link to understand
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XXXL? Bloody hell.
What's wrong with that?
Depends if you've got a massive chest because you're hench I suppose. If not, there's an irony in buying sportswear when you're that size.
How about people who spend most of their life in a wheelchair and need a bigger size for various reasons all connected to being stuck in a wheelchair?
Wheelchair or not, sportswear isn't fashionable.
Which has fuck all to do with your first unsavoury foray into commenting on larger shirt sizes.
True enough, but I wasn't really focusing on somebody with physical reason for needing larger shirt sizes. I was thinking more general population at large and the obesity epidemic.
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Rather than just the usual style of name and number you can have them like this.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DiVYJP9XkAA1xKt.jpg)
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For fuck's sake. What if you're name isn't Luke?
Sawiris/Edens/Xia OUT.
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For fuck's sake. What if you're name isn't Luke?
Sawiris/Edens/Xia OUT.
Yeah, it's just not Kule.
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Is it possible to get a slogan printed on the shirt? Something like, 'We're considerably richer than yow!"
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Or 'Kiss my asp'
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Or 'Kiss my asp'
Nigel Sphinx
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It was all going well until this:
https://twitter.com/lukeroper/status/1019317814442815488?s=21
Modified names and numbers
https://www.luke1977.com/c/avfc-football-shirts/2.htm
Literally, a brilliant marketing idea and one i'm guessing is unique to us like the strips. The club have become the first to embrace something new that appeals to a whole new generation of supporters.
I can't think of a single reason why anyone wouldn't applaud that.
This isn't aimed at me or you.
I dn’t get it. Couldn’t you always have your name and number on it?
I think it's the different styles Percy. You can have your name and number in a tiger skin pattern now, with a load of stars too.
Ta.
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Rather than just the usual style of name and number you can have them like this.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DiVYJP9XkAA1xKt.jpg)
Ta.
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I dn’t get it. Couldn’t you always have your name and number on it?
You probably need to view the link to understand
I had a quick look but I have a short attention span.
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https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/swansea-city-new-kit-championship-14883410
they love it
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32 Red doing a lot of business I see.
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Some shockers in that article esp Bristol City becoming Boro. Thought Derby's Umbro one looked nice and simple.
Liked our away kit from the start and the home one has definitely grown on me and both look good on the players. Definitely had much worse in the past and not my main concern atm.
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Have you noticed how many of the sponsors are betting companies? They've got about 2 teams each.
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Liked our away kit from the start and the home one has definitely grown on me and both look good on the players. Definitely had much worse in the past and not my main concern atm.
Unfortunately the club shop has no large home or away shirts available,
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For fuck's sake. What if you're name isn't Luke?
Sawiris/Edens/Xia OUT.
And what if you're not 77? And what if you wanted it to look like a Villa kit (sorry).
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Liked our away kit from the start and the home one has definitely grown on me and both look good on the players. Definitely had much worse in the past and not my main concern atm.
Unfortunately the club shop has no large home or away shirts available,
Really poor given the hype and ,long awaited intro from design to sale. Plus club still having its loyal ST base....no forward marketing thinking here.
Has the shop changed much over close season from how it was at last home game ?
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Liked our away kit from the start and the home one has definitely grown on me and both look good on the players. Definitely had much worse in the past and not my main concern atm.
Unfortunately the club shop has no large home or away shirts available,
Really poor given the hype and ,long awaited intro from design to sale. Plus club still having its loyal ST base....no forward marketing thinking here.
Has the shop changed much over close season from how it was at last home game ?
They've been overwhelmed with sales, not sure how that's bad planning
Reason to be cheerful if anything surely ?
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Liked our away kit from the start and the home one has definitely grown on me and both look good on the players. Definitely had much worse in the past and not my main concern atm.
Unfortunately the club shop has no large home or away shirts available,
Really poor given the hype and ,long awaited intro from design to sale. Plus club still having its loyal ST base....no forward marketing thinking here.
Has the shop changed much over close season from how it was at last home game ?
They've been overwhelmed with sales, not sure how that's bad planning
Reason to be cheerful if anything surely ?
I see what you're saying but given all the info and stats they have to hand and the design they know would win over the majority, you don't plan to fail by under producing. Missed sales a plenty
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don't like to see 32 Red sponsor several teams and far too many betting companies sponsoring football shirt.
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don't like to see 32 Red sponsor several teams and far too many betting companies sponsoring football shirt.
It is indeed a very sad state of affairs, Michael.
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I don't think there are enough betting companies sponsoring football teams.
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I notice that after two years we've finally gone properly Championship with the new kit - the long sleeve undershirts that the likes of Grealish wear are a different colour to the home shirt.
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I don't think there are enough betting companies sponsoring football teams.
Seeing as our economy is based mainly on speculation, debt leveraging and arms production you may well be right, pauliewalnuts. On the on other hand, this might be the basis of a well cool shirt logo.
(https://cdn.opendemocracy.net/files/imagecache/wysiwyg_imageupload_lightbox_preset/wysiwyg_imageupload/535628/tornado3.jpg)
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I notice that after two years we've finally gone properly Championship with the new kit - the long sleeve undershirts that the likes of Grealish wear are a different colour to the home shirt.
I think they're last year's UA stuff, such was our financial plight recently...
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I notice that after two years we've finally gone properly Championship with the new kit - the long sleeve undershirts that the likes of Grealish wear are a different colour to the home shirt.
I think they're last year's UA stuff, such was our financial plight recently...
What, the blue on Jack's base layer doesn't match the blue on his sleeves...
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I’m gobsmacked that we won’t have any shirts for sale for the entirety of the main summer month as well as our first 3 home games. We really are a fucking shitshow sometimes. Was going to drive down there tomorrow and pick a couple up for me and the lad. Absolute morons
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I’m gobsmacked that we won’t have any shirts for sale for the entirety of the main summer month as well as our first 3 home games. We really are a fucking shitshow sometimes. Was going to drive down there tomorrow and pick a couple up for me and the lad. Absolute morons
A number of the kits have sold out because they are so popular. They might not have seen such a huge demand for them which is all credit to the designers. We also don't know if the issue is at their end vs the club's. How does this make us a shit show? There's loads to complain about without whacking the club when you don't know the facts.
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I do not think it unreasonable to assume that the lack of kit production may have something to do with Luke not wanting to create a significant financial exposure to a company that for several weeks had a credit rating of Zero.
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I’m gobsmacked that we won’t have any shirts for sale for the entirety of the main summer month as well as our first 3 home games. We really are a fucking shitshow sometimes. Was going to drive down there tomorrow and pick a couple up for me and the lad. Absolute morons
A number of the kits have sold out because they are so popular. They might not have seen such a huge demand for them which is all credit to the designers. We also don't know if the issue is at their end vs the club's. How does this make us a shit show? There's loads to complain about without whacking the club when you don't know the facts.
I don’t care who’s bloody fault it is, not having any football shirts for sale for the month of August and across our first 3 home games is a shitshow. Those are all the facts I need to come to my conclusion thank you very much. The shirts costs £50 and have a relevant shelf life of 12months but aren’t available for the first month? Extend the factory hours, work weekends or evenings but don’t let one of your main income generators completely dry up for the busiest month of the year. This deal was supposed to benefit the fans, it hasn’t worked out that way for me.
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Agree mattjpa, it's a poor state to be unable to get the kit to prior who want to give us money for it.
The end result is annoyed fans and money going begging, that's shit planning, no matter who by.
I also thought this deal was meant to make precisely this situation not happen anymore.
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I was planning on heading to the store tomorrow to pick up the new ones for my kids and I - presume there's fuck all left, then?
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Yeah no luck, back in stock 31st August
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As long as the demand isn't from people wanting to buy it.
As both retail partner and kit manufacturer, Fanatics will operate a full vertical-manufacturing model, meaning the new kit, bearing the LUKE 1977 brand logo, will be managed by a single company from production to point-of-sale. This means fan merchandise enjoys faster speed-to-market in an increasingly on-demand world.
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Farce
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My son ordered a small Home shirt on Saturday for supposed delivery Aug 31st. Been mailed today to say it has been dispatched.
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Doesn't seem to matter who the manufacturer, supplier, designer, or owner might be. They have fucked it up for years.
They should be knocking 10% / £5 off.
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I’m gobsmacked that we won’t have any shirts for sale for the entirety of the main summer month as well as our first 3 home games. We really are a fucking shitshow sometimes. Was going to drive down there tomorrow and pick a couple up for me and the lad. Absolute morons
The club has sold 8 weeks worth of stock in only two weeks. There is no way they could of seen that one coming. I’ll wait for mine and my lads. Fantastic after the summer we’ve had so far. Hope Luke Roper does our kit next season.
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Went on first day and got son home, away and training shirts plus a polo for me knowing what previous seasons have been like. In fairness, up to 10 days ago we were heading to administration so you can’t blame them for not stocking thousands and thousands of shirts can you.
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I don't know if its because it reminds me of the 83/84 kit when I was a kid , but I get excited every time I see one of our players in it
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I’m gobsmacked that we won’t have any shirts for sale for the entirety of the main summer month as well as our first 3 home games. We really are a fucking shitshow sometimes. Was going to drive down there tomorrow and pick a couple up for me and the lad. Absolute morons
The club has sold 8 weeks worth of stock in only two weeks. There is no way they could of seen that one coming. I’ll wait for mine and my lads. Fantastic after the summer we’ve had so far. Hope Luke Roper does our kit next season.
Well, there is, they might have put in place an arrangement to get more stock in - lest we forget, the annual financial kit piss take happens at the same time every year - quickly if they needed it.
What is a constant of the last few years is the unavailability of kit right at the point - ie now - when people are most likely to want to buy it.
This was supposed to be something 'special' 'for the fans', they told us it was revolutionary, but 50 quid plus for a shirt and the inability to actually buy it when you really want it doesn't sound at all revolutionary, it sounds like what happens pretty much every summer.
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Has anyone saw anything mentioned about the 3rd kit ? Crazy idea i know, and I agree if anyone says its just a rip off. But after the "success" of the home and away kits, interested to see what this will look like. Maybe a version of the away 83-84, white with yellow hoops, or a crazy version of the green and black stripes.
It might become a classic, similar to the yellow Brazil style, 3rd kit we used in the cup away at Liverpool.
We did have a 3rd kit when Randy first came, dark grey with claret shorts, dont think we ever wore that?
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I thought the 3rd kit was very similar to the black matchday training kit?
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I’m gobsmacked that we won’t have any shirts for sale for the entirety of the main summer month as well as our first 3 home games. We really are a fucking shitshow sometimes. Was going to drive down there tomorrow and pick a couple up for me and the lad. Absolute morons
You have had weeks to buy one of course. You can't be that gobsmacked
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I would think this is entirely to do with Fanatics (and maybe Luke) shitting themselves about getting paid, and therefore not supplying very many until they do. Now that cash concerns are seemingly a thing of the past I bet the sweatshops are on lockdown.
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I’m gobsmacked that we won’t have any shirts for sale for the entirety of the main summer month as well as our first 3 home games. We really are a fucking shitshow sometimes. Was going to drive down there tomorrow and pick a couple up for me and the lad. Absolute morons
You have had weeks to buy one of course. You can't be that gobsmacked
Maybe they should have ordered some more? As Paulie said, this is an annual occurrence and one of the benefits of the deal was supposed to be that precisely this sort of cock-up wouldn't happen.
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So the last action of Xia was to over promise on a kit "for the fans" which seems to provide zero benefits in comparison to any other new kit we've had and then run out of stock before August is here. And all this for a kit that actually doesn't really look like a Villa kit anyway.
Pretty much sums up Xia's time at the club really.
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I’m gobsmacked that we won’t have any shirts for sale for the entirety of the main summer month as well as our first 3 home games. We really are a fucking shitshow sometimes. Was going to drive down there tomorrow and pick a couple up for me and the lad. Absolute morons
You have had weeks to buy one of course. You can't be that gobsmacked
Maybe they should have ordered some more? As Paulie said, this is an annual occurrence and one of the benefits of the deal was supposed to be that precisely this sort of cock-up wouldn't happen.
It's also not really great business sense to say to a customer "well, you've had 3 weeks to buy one before now". They're not kids who haven't done their homework over the school holidays. A 3 week back log is pretty piss poor whichever way it's spun.
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Agreed. Hottest Summer in decades and we haven't had new shirts on sale for almost all of it. That's throwing away money.
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This really is an issue between Fanatics(who run the club shop/website) and Luke Roper really
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This really is an issue between Fanatics(who run the club shop/website) and Luke Roper really
He designed it. They make it, distribute it and sell it.
Both of them work on behalf of Villa.
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From Pravda:
Aston Villa’s new home, away and goalkeeping have done so unbelievably well, it’s even taken us by surprise!
Original figures saw us understandably rely on historic data over the past two seasons of life in the Championship as we took collection of stock for the first few weeks of launch.
However, they’ve been completely blown out of the water with sales up almost 750% across all three kits since becoming available – outperforming the last five season launch sales.
In fact, we have sold stock for eight weeks in just under two weeks.
Retail Contracts Manager, Rasoul Didarzadeh spoke of “unbelievable appetite” for the strips from our fanbase and a “huge determination” within the club to bring forward the next batch of stock.
The incredible figures recorded have led to a shortage in the Villa Store and from our Online Store too in certain sizes – but we’re working hard to rectify the situation.
As it stands, we’re expecting new stock at the end of August due to the fact that it has already been dispatched from source.
However, club chiefs are working hard to speed up the process once it arrives in the UK.
The home, away and goalkeeping shirts are now back on pre-order so if you put your name down for them now, you’ll get them as soon as they become available, which could well be sooner than expected.
Our training wear range has also sold exceptionally well – and you’ll be seeing new lines hitting our outlets over the next few weeks.
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If in just 2 weeks, they sold what normally takes 8 weeks to sell, that does explain why there's an issue.
However, given the apparent 'shortcut' we built into the supply chain, it would be nice to be able to get some more in before the end of August.
That said, you'd expect a 750% increase in sales to mean that most people who want one have already got one! That doesn't seem to be the case - it seems that despite the issue with the 'not blue' sleeves, virtually our entire fan base is after these!
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Deary me, that’s really, really poor.
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That 750% increase sounds a bit like 1984 speak to me. 750% increase on when? I absolutely do not believe we’ve sold 7.5 times more kits on a like for like basis than last year.
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Great news on kit sales. I must say the home kit is particularly good my lads chuffed. Luke has done a great job UTV
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Bad news if the home shirt is selling well. That means we will have shit, non-Villa, home shirts for the forseeable future.
This is like Brexit and Trump all over again. You can't trust the public.
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They were taken by surprise 2 years ago as well.
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/tony-xia-reveals-huge-aston-11580020
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Bad news if the home shirt is selling well. That means we will have shit, non-Villa, home shirts for the forseeable future.
This is like Brexit and Trump all over again. You can't trust the public.
Trump is elected and it has a global effect, the Brexit vote affects a nation - Villa launch a shirt without blue sleeves and a man in Yardley is upset :) ......only joking buddy !
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We always had blue sleeves when Obama was in power. 😭
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The restocks have already been dispatched but won't be in stock for a month? Are they sending them using one-winged carrier pigeons?
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Only anecdotal but my mate at work who doesn’t buy the Villa kit has been annoyingly excited about this one since he saw it online and has now bought both the home and away tops.
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GQ magazine vote the Villa kit as this season’s best in the Championship.
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They must be Hearts fans.
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They must be Hearts fans.
They play in maroon and white. We play in claret and blue.
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Does seem a bit odd - why would sales be so much higher than normal?
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Sales up 700% on last year, says GQ.
I like the Blackburn one.
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It's Wes buying them all to dodge ffp!
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Does seem a bit odd - why would sales be so much higher than normal?
Because it’s really popular. It seems people like the style and the real claret.
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They must be Hearts fans.
They play in maroon and white. We play in claret and blue.
Not any more, we don't.
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The restocks have already been dispatched but won't be in stock for a month? Are they sending them using one-winged carrier pigeons?
I'd imagine the factory is in China and they're on a boat, which is an 8 week journey.
Makes an absolute mockery of all that "faster to market" bollocks they came out with when the Luke/Fanatics deal was announced.
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Does seem a bit odd - why would sales be so much higher than normal?
Because it’s really popular. It seems people like the style and the real claret.
Exactly
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The restocks have already been dispatched but won't be in stock for a month? Are they sending them using one-winged carrier pigeons?
That was the part I picked on too. I got my stuff shipped back from China in 6 -8 weeks and I paid about £60, the cheapest and slowest possible way of doing it. We must be sourcing from N Korea.
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They must be Hearts fans.
They play in maroon and white. We play in claret and blue.
Not any more, we don't.
Yes we do. The arms are not claret. There is blue in the shirt, and in the socks. It's not a crisis that the arms are not blue.
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They must be Hearts fans.
They play in maroon and white. We play in claret and blue.
Not any more, we don't.
Yes we do. The arms are not claret. There is blue in the shirt, and in the socks. It's not a crisis that the arms are not blue.
Don’t encourage him this is the hill he’s willing to die on.
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They must be Hearts fans.
They play in maroon and white. We play in claret and blue.
Not any more, we don't.
Yes we do. The arms are not claret. There is blue in the shirt, and in the socks. It's not a crisis that the arms are not blue.
Don’t encourage him this is the hill he’s willing to die on.
That made me smile :)
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They must be Hearts fans.
They play in maroon and white. We play in claret and blue.
Not any more, we don't.
Yes we do. The arms are not claret. There is blue in the shirt
That's like saying we play in claret, blue and yellow because there is a tiny bit of yellow on the badge.
The sleeves are blue in the same way that Bobby Charlton has a full head of hair.
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Baldist.
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Pass me my nightie Basil, the blue one.
This one?
Is it blue?
Well it’s got blue on it.
It’s not blue then is it.
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The restocks have already been dispatched but won't be in stock for a month? Are they sending them using one-winged carrier pigeons?
I'd imagine the factory is in China and they're on a boat, which is an 8 week journey.
Makes an absolute mockery of all that "faster to market" bollocks they came out with when the Luke/Fanatics deal was announced.
All the ones I’ve bought for my kids have made in Bangladesh on them. Transportation systems not as good as China ? 🤔
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All the ones I’ve bought for my kids have made in Bangladesh on them. Transportation systems not as good as China ? 🤔
Probably not - back in the day. when i dealt with the Indian subcontinent, was no surprise to see letters of credit that actually specified" Wind-propelled vessels not permitted".
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The kit has won the GQ vote for best EFL kit for the new season.
But the fact Blues off peg monstrosity came third probably voids any relevance to the poll.
https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/gallery/new-championship-kits-2018-19-ranked
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Just a shame that we get it messed up again brilliant kit which I love but come on we have to wait a month before anybody can have one because they didn't make enough of them.
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The restocks have already been dispatched but won't be in stock for a month? Are they sending them using one-winged carrier pigeons?
This made laugh, which happens to blind and no sense of direction.
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Just a shame that we get it messed up again brilliant kit which I love but come on we have to wait a month before anybody can have one because they didn't make enough of them.
It has been quoted that sales of new shirt is 700% up on last year - not sure anyone would have predicted that for a brand new designer, manufacturer and distributor. If it had a been a flop then we would have been lumbered with thousands of pounds worth of shirts no one wanted.
Supply has to be in line with demand
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Just a shame that we get it messed up again brilliant kit which I love but come on we have to wait a month before anybody can have one because they didn't make enough of them.
It has been quoted that sales of new shirt is 700% up on last year - not sure anyone would have predicted that for a brand new designer, manufacturer and distributor. If it had a been a flop then we would have been lumbered with thousands of pounds worth of shirts no one wanted.
Supply has to be in line with demand
This.
Anyway, if anyone wants to (pre) order one via Kitbag he's a 20% off code
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And if you go via topcashback you can get another 7% back as well
#Deals
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So if sales of shirts increased by over 200% 2 years ago and by a further 700% this year, we must be flogging more shirts than Barcelona?
I love the new shirt but I can smell corporate bullshit from a mile away. Someone's fucked up.
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Its pretty unfortunate that it's out until the end of the month. Although 'limited stock' releases are an increasingly successful marketing strategy now so I wouldn't be surprised if they did it out of trying to create rarity/exclusivity while at the same time peddling the 700% rubbish as Chico said.
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Supply has to be in line with demand
They said they could cope with demand and that was the big plus point of this deal. Instead we'll have no shirts on sale for most of August including when the season starts. No matter how anyone wants to try and spin it, that's piss poor.
As both retail partner and kit manufacturer, Fanatics will operate a full vertical-manufacturing model, meaning the new kit, bearing the LUKE 1977 brand logo, will be managed by a single company from production to point-of-sale. This means fan merchandise enjoys faster speed-to-market in an increasingly on-demand world.
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Somebody mentioned Corporate Bulldshit.
It means they ordered direct from the Factory, well I never.
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Increasingly on demand*
*As long you demand it a month from now.
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Yes the speed to market is determined by wether you airfreighted or used Paddy Mcgintys goat who is currently taking a well earned summers break in Galway.
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They said they could cope with demand and that was the big plus point of this deal. Instead we'll have no shirts on sale for most of August including when the season starts. No matter how anyone wants to try and spin it, that's piss poor.
But they HAVE been available ... so let's not forget that. The people who wanted it the minute it came out got it
The rest will have to wait a bit. I'm not sure it's going to cause them too much grief to wait a few more weeks when the season lasts until next May
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I am going to scream and scream and scream until I get one.
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They said they could cope with demand and that was the big plus point of this deal. Instead we'll have no shirts on sale for most of August including when the season starts. No matter how anyone wants to try and spin it, that's piss poor.
But they HAVE been available ... so let's not forget that. The people who wanted it the minute it came out got it
The rest will have to wait a bit. I'm not sure it's going to cause them too much grief to wait a few more weeks when the season lasts until next May
As a general rule of retail you can only sell products you have in the store. The longer we don't have kit available the greater the number of people who will change their mind about buying a shirt.
The only people it's going to cause grief to is the club.
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They said they could cope with demand and that was the big plus point of this deal. Instead we'll have no shirts on sale for most of August including when the season starts. No matter how anyone wants to try and spin it, that's piss poor.
But they HAVE been available ... so let's not forget that. The people who wanted it the minute it came out got it
The rest will have to wait a bit. I'm not sure it's going to cause them too much grief to wait a few more weeks when the season lasts until next May
And now they aren't. No matter how you try and spin it, to start the season and have all of August with no shirts available to buy is piss poor. Especially as the whole point of this deal was to be able to meet demand quickly.
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Anyway, now we have gone away from the traditional shirt, next years will be blue with a big white stripe down the front.
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Not being able to satisfy demand when you've just made a big hoo-haa about satisfying demand because you're so innovative is piss poor.
That's the sort of situation that gets people sacked in lots of companies.
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The blessing in disguise is that I'm sure our new owners have taken note of this whole kit shambles. The seem like savvy operators who'll realise that these things are rarely isolated events if a company has not been run well. I doubt they'll be standing for this kind of thing in future.
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Anyway, now we have gone away from the traditional shirt, next years will be blue with a big white stripe down the front.
Don’t say that...... we haven’t seen the 3rd kit yet.
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Anyway, now we have gone away from the traditional shirt, next years will be blue with a big white stripe down the front.
Don’t say that...... we haven’t seen the 3rd kit yet.
Weren't there some rumours flying about that it was going to be based on the red, green and black Asics one?
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Well given our new co-owner's other interests, I fully expect us to be wearing adidas next season...
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I popped in yesterday to see our empty looking shop.
They had one or two medium / large / 2xl away ones and that was it. I was looking for a small adult for my lad, nearly bought him a women's one by mistake as it was labelled at the back as "small".
I even tried Mike Ashley's shop in the bullring, but nothing Villa in there of course.
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Well given our new co-owner's other interests, I fully expect us to be wearing adidas next season...
He's only got a 5% stake, i can't see that happening after the success of this seasons Luke/Fanatics venture.
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Well given our new co-owner's other interests, I fully expect us to be wearing adidas next season...
He's only got a 5% stake, i can't see that happening after the success of this seasons Luke/Fanatics venture.
So successful that you can't buy it.
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Well given our new co-owner's other interests, I fully expect us to be wearing adidas next season...
He's only got a 5% stake, i can't see that happening after the success of this seasons Luke/Fanatics venture.
So successful that you can't buy it.
This made me laugh well said Dave.
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A week before the start of the season, and you can't buy a Villa shirt.
No wonder our commercial income barely grew despite being in the richest league in the world for a quarter of a century.
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It would be more relevant if we asked the club how many we have actually sold rather than a % of previous sales although 700% increase of anything is a bloody big increase
If we have sold 1000 shirts then a) last seasons kit sales was utter shit or b) Not a lot of people buy shirts
If we have sold 15000 shirts then that is almost half of the match day attendees will own one which Is pretty good going if you think about it
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You believe the 700%?
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Well given our new co-owner's other interests, I fully expect us to be wearing adidas next season...
He's only got a 5% stake, i can't see that happening after the success of this seasons Luke/Fanatics venture.
So successful that you can't buy it.
Because it was so successful
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Well given our new co-owner's other interests, I fully expect us to be wearing adidas next season...
He's only got a 5% stake, i can't see that happening after the success of this seasons Luke/Fanatics venture.
So successful that you can't buy it.
Because it was so successful
That’s some success.
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Well given our new co-owner's other interests, I fully expect us to be wearing adidas next season...
He's only got a 5% stake, i can't see that happening after the success of this seasons Luke/Fanatics venture.
So successful that you can't buy it.
Because it was so successful
Except it isn't because it's not on sale, and it won't be on sale during one of the busiest sale periods of the year. That is not a success. That, however you might want to dress it up in utterly nonsensical 750% claims, is a total failure.
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Suppose it depends how you determine success, they've successfully met the 'demand' for their initial print run and successfully ensured there is demand for the new shirt from the hundreds or possibly thousands who are pissed off because they are unable to buy the shirt with the new season fast approaching. A Trump type 'success'.
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After seeing the shop almost completely devoid of kit yesterday, I'd be interested to know how many other clubs in the League are in the same situation.
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For those craving blue sleeves look at the monstrosity that is the Burnley kit - and wtf is that logo on the front
Truly horrendous kit - makes our effort look like a work of art
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/football/44764580
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https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/key-transfer-suggests-stoke-given-14983946
Blue and white captains arm band - what's going on there?
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For those craving blue sleeves look at the monstrosity that is the Burnley kit - and wtf is that logo on the front
Truly horrendous kit - makes our effort look like a work of art
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/football/44764580
Oh yeah, that logo is dismal. Looks all wonky and shit.
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Suppose it depends how you determine success, they've successfully met the 'demand' for their initial print run and successfully ensured there is demand for the new shirt from the hundreds or possibly thousands who are pissed off because they are unable to buy the shirt with the new season fast approaching. A Trump type 'success'.
Popular - yes, successful - no. Successful would mean having to constantly restock to meet demands, selling out suggests a lack of faith and understanding in what fans expected.
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Got my lad a kit yesterday size 4/5yrs (only three left in that size), kits come up big though as was after a 6/7 but non at all in that size as issues getting them in stock. Went back today to get name and number on once knew it fitted him. There was hardly anything left. More kids kits back in Tuesday. There was also hardly any training gear in.
No adults shirts until th 31st August as according to staff they’d sold two months worth of shirts in two weeks.
The quality of the kit is superb but a bit disappointing that we can’t keep up with demand.
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No adults shirts until th 31st August as according to staff they’d sold two months worth of shirts in two weeks.
Not sure how they work that out.
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To be fair, you could drive up to the shop and be the only ones in there most of the time, even after a kit launch, but I’ve been twice since the kit came out and it’s been packed both times with most people clutching one of the new shirts.
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It is a symptom of how the club has been run commercially for a good number of years, whenever I am in Brum from the Middle East I always go to the club shop and never fail to be let down buy the quality of what is on sale and the choice, I end up buying something but have never walked out of there feeling, great this is the bees knees and that is not just on about kits, but the whole range of merchandise is poor.
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I’m gobsmacked that we won’t have any shirts for sale for the entirety of the main summer month as well as our first 3 home games. We really are a fucking shitshow sometimes. Was going to drive down there tomorrow and pick a couple up for me and the lad. Absolute morons
You have had weeks to buy one of course. You can't be that gobsmacked
Well, I work full time and have 2 young kids. I’m also one of those awkward people that falls between sizes depending on the store and seeing as it’s a new manufacturer I wanted to try the shirt on rather than ordering online and having the rigmarole of sending stuff back. The new deal means I can’t just nip down the local sports direct or JD sports like I could in the past. But regardless of my personal circumstances, that is completely irrelevant to my surprise that the club whilst under so much pressure to meet FFP didn’t have the foresight or contingency planning to ensure one of our key revenue streams was maintained through the peak opportunity period for sales. Thanks for your opinion though.
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Sirlordbaltimore is Luke (luke-) and I claim my £5.00.
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With the new link to Adidas we have this could be a glimpse into the future. Imagine this beauty with blue sleeves and adjustment to the correct claret?
https://www.coloradorapids.com/post/2018/02/08/2018-colorado-rapids-primary-kit-unveiled
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Currently on holiday in Orlando. The Orlando City MLS shirt is made by Adidas. In the sports shops over here there are clearly two versions. The Adidas one with full embroidered club crest and MLS patch. The other one looks cheaper(same price though) but this one has plastic/rubber crest and patch. This one is the Fanatics one. So the rubber Villa crest on all the shirts clearly is a feature instigated by Fanatics.
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Currently on holiday in Orlando. The Orlando City MLS shirt is made by Adidas. In the sports shops over here there are clearly two versions. The Adidas one with full embroidered club crest and MLS patch. The other one looks cheaper(same price though) but this one has plastic/rubber crest and patch. This one is the Fanatics one. So the rubber Villa crest on all the shirts clearly is a feature instigated by Fanatics.
The stripy Asics era kit had a rubber badge, I seem to recall most people thought it was cheap and wanted a proper embroidered one.
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Currently on holiday in Orlando. The Orlando City MLS shirt is made by Adidas. In the sports shops over here there are clearly two versions. The Adidas one with full embroidered club crest and MLS patch. The other one looks cheaper(same price though) but this one has plastic/rubber crest and patch. This one is the Fanatics one. So the rubber Villa crest on all the shirts clearly is a feature instigated by Fanatics.
The stripy Asics era kit had a rubber badge, I seem to recall most people thought it was cheap and wanted a proper embroidered one.
I don’t that ASICS one was rubber was it? It was like a velour type material. Used to get covered in fluff if I remember correctly.
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Sirlordbaltimore is Luke (luke-) and I claim my £5.00.
I wish, i'd probably be minted after this windfall if so
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For those who have been lucky enough to purchase adult shirts so far, what is the fit like in comparison to previous seasons / manufacturers ?
Tight, clingy or more relaxed fit ?
Short or long in body ?
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I got up early and watched the game, great result, ok performance but that shirt, i'm sorry. It just aint a Villa shirt.
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Having seen them in the flesh last night, I was quite taken with both. Though the lack of blue sleeves isn't good.
The colour though, is perfect.
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There’s hardly anything at all in stock on the online store, despite big banners saying “in stock now!” Most of the training tops have no stock either. Unbelievably amateurish.
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There’s hardly anything at all in stock on the online store, despite big banners saying “in stock now!” Most of the training tops have no stock either. Unbelievably amateurish.
What you after ? might be worth trying Kitbag if they haven't sold out as well
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There’s hardly anything at all in stock on the online store, despite big banners saying “in stock now!” Most of the training tops have no stock either. Unbelievably amateurish.
Agreed.
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There’s hardly anything at all in stock on the online store, despite big banners saying “in stock now!” Most of the training tops have no stock either. Unbelievably amateurish.
Yep, but there's no change to the situation as it was before. Stock will be in at the end of the month.
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What are the kids sizes like? It’s my boys 7th birthday early Sept so wanted to order online to try and get it in time but don’t know what size to go for. He’ll be too big for the 6/7 but from what I can see they stop the age ranges after that and go to Youth Extra Small or something like that. Is that correct?
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My lad is 9 and got him the Youth Medium. Fits well. Not clingy
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Any feedback on adult sizing compared to previous brands....short/long, clingy/generous ?
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For those craving blue sleeves look at the monstrosity that is the Burnley kit - and wtf is that logo on the front
Truly horrendous kit - makes our effort look like a work of art
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/football/44764580
Shirt looks alright to me. Logo is cack though.
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Any feedback on adult sizing compared to previous brands....short/long, clingy/generous ?
I haven't bought one of the recent monstrosities, but the nephew assures me his adult small fits the same as last years
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I bought an XL away shirt having always had L before. I should have got a Large, even though I would say I have 'spread' a little over the years. Maybe I am being harsh on myself and I'm still the buff young adonis I once was.....
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Macron were dead clingy. All our other branded shirts fit great, Nike and Reebok in particular.
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For those craving blue sleeves look at the monstrosity that is the Burnley kit - and wtf is that logo on the front
Truly horrendous kit - makes our effort look like a work of art
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/football/44764580
Shirt looks alright to me. Logo is cack though.
The logo is awful but the shirt itself is pretty nice. Prefer it to ours.
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Can't see much in that link VCTM provided... here it is, though:
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=burnley+kit+2018%2F19&oq=burnley+kit+20&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l3.4967j0j4&client=ms-android-h3g-gb&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#imgrc=gWcRpEUBtzlj-M:
Agree with Risso. Abysmal sponsor but, other than that, I like it.
In fact, I'm going to buy it, unpick the sponsor lettering and staple a Villa badge over the top of theirs.
That'll teach 'em.
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That shirt is - sponsor aside - better than ours this year. It's the Hummel 90 or the acorns 2008 shirt in style.
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Lovely looking shirt, Puma do some nice ones. I wonder once our deal with Luke and the franchise dudes run out Nassef will use his Adidas links to manufacturer our next lot.
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Those sleeves and shoulders are really naff and the body looks a bit purple . The Burnley kit when they'd just been promoted was brilliant.
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new third kit being launched tomorrow and will be worn at yeovil in the cup tomorrow night.
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new third kit being launched tomorrow and will be worn at yeovil in the cup tomorrow night.
Heard it's Navy Blue?
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new third kit being launched tomorrow and will be worn at yeovil in the cup tomorrow night.
Heard it's Navy Blue?
Judging by the teaser navy blue and pink trim
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It's very similar to the training kit I think?
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Still loving both the home away shirts . Yes I think the logo is unusual but we’re so conditioned to seeing the same old Nike, Under Armour and Adidas on just about everything I wonder whether that’s got something to do with it ? As always it will be personal taste. It seems to be selling well so that’s great news for the club and upping our profile everywhere it’s seen 👍
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There is one doing the rounds on twitter. Black and gold, hmmmmm
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DkfL9qEW0AAhR5M.jpg)
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And this is the one doing the rounds on social media.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DkgKDe_W4Ac7c47.jpg:large)
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And this is the one doing the rounds on social media.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DkgKDe_W4Ac7c47.jpg:large)
I'm told that's another keepers shirt. There's a "Barcelona" type (ish) one also doing the rounds.
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No chance of a clash of shirts there. Don't like black kits, it's just a get out! Get in the 21st Century Luke, you were doing really well.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DkfL9qEW0AAhR5M.jpg)
Assuming this is a teaser, I wonder if it could be based on the '96 away?
(https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/ODQ1WDY5NA==/z/h20AAOSwkbdbaI9Z/$_35.JPG?set_id=880000500F)
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DkfL9qEW0AAhR5M.jpg)
Assuming this is a teaser, I wonder if it could be based on the '96 away?
(https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/ODQ1WDY5NA==/z/h20AAOSwkbdbaI9Z/$_35.JPG?set_id=880000500F)
At least that one has blue sleeves (wink)
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No chance of a clash of shirts there. Don't like black kits, it's just a get out! Get in the 21st Century Luke, you were doing really well.
You mean he is doing well. That looks a complete fake. Look at the sponsor logo size for a starter. Let’s wait to see what else comes out before putting his success in the past.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DkfL9qEW0AAhR5M.jpg)
Assuming this is a teaser, I wonder if it could be based on the '96 away?
(https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/ODQ1WDY5NA==/z/h20AAOSwkbdbaI9Z/$_35.JPG?set_id=880000500F)
Savo.
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I think We could see next season Adidas kit with Luke 1977 and top Adidas designer work together. It will blow everything else away. When we get promoted we will get big kit sponsorship deal with Adidas.
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I think We could see next season Adidas kit with Luke 1977 and top Adidas designer work together. It will blow everything else away. When we get promoted we will get big kit sponsorship deal with Adidas.
Can’t see that working at all. Adidas would never agree to having another designer involved or having another logo on their kit.
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I think We could see next season Adidas kit with Luke 1977 and top Adidas designer work together. It will blow everything else away. When we get promoted we will get big kit sponsorship deal with Adidas.
Can’t see that working at all. Adidas would never agree to having another designer involved or having another logo on their kit.
Not true. Adidas have often worked with designers ... Stella McCartney for British Athletics , London 2012
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I think We could see next season Adidas kit with Luke 1977 and top Adidas designer work together. It will blow everything else away. When we get promoted we will get big kit sponsorship deal with Adidas.
Can’t see that working at all. Adidas would never agree to having another designer involved or having another logo on their kit.
Not true. Adidas have often worked with designers ... Stella McCartney for British Athletics , London 2012
Fair enough, that's me told!
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And this is the one doing the rounds on social media.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DkgKDe_W4Ac7c47.jpg:large)
That’s hideous, and it’s definitely fake.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DkfL9qEW0AAhR5M.jpg)
Launches 14.08.18 - Join the pride, etc, etc.
15.08.18 - Sold out.
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Haven't seen it yet but the sleeves are shit.
Looks like a bloody Hearts third kit.
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I didn’t like it first.
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I hated it before it was designed because it reminded me of the great third black shirt controversy back in the days of Lerner and Krulak (the shirt was never worn in a proper game).
Winding up Cyril Lord Carpet Balti-Moor alias Andy Cap is an added bonus.
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https://twitter.com/villareport/status/1029360066254790656
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DkkFhYuW4AAHJXz.jpg)
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Seems suspect that we would have a claret (purple-ish?)3rd kit. The badges look crap too. Not convinced as I’d expect something different
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I like the new kit. Thumbs up from my teenage kids
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(https://thumb.ibb.co/dMjSY9/7_CB42_F7_B_D3_FB_4_E10_8_B51_84_FB557_A7725.png) (https://ibb.co/dMjSY9)
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Looks more like a training top, but I guess it's not aimed at old gits like me.
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Bloody awful - let's hope they leave it in Yeovil.
When I first saw it I assumed it was training kit.
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Opportunity missed
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What’s the point of that, another kit with claret and blue albeit a darker blue. Pointless.
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It might be refreshing design but I will stick with home kit only for this season.
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(https://thumb.ibb.co/dMjSY9/7_CB42_F7_B_D3_FB_4_E10_8_B51_84_FB557_A7725.png) (https://ibb.co/dMjSY9)
Love it!
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The verdict from the youth is ... another winner.
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It's different design wise I suppose but it's not for me. It'll go down well with the young un's though.
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Yep not aimed at me or my age group but the kids will buy it
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Those diagonal stripes on the design remind me of an old West Spam kit from yester year.
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Bjarnason looks quite attractive in that photo.
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Bjarnason looks quite attractive in that photo.
It's amazing the difference when he smiles!
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Very smart. The kids will love it.
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I think it's okay, to be fair.
Order of preference:
Away 9/10
Third 7/10
Home 2/10
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(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/39148093_2069629756414416_4653870809251577856_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=46820ae8881cef9914cd7bd8e255e391&oe=5BC5EA5B)
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Yep not aimed at me or my age group but the kids will buy it
Just got the 'can you pre order it it's sexual text'
The answer being no, you've already had the other two
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Horrible rubbish.
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I don’t dislike it, I just find it a little strange it’s similar colours to the home top. But if it raises some money then good stuff.
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I like it
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Horrible rubbish.
Is the correct answer.
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Does look a lot better seeing the players in it.
If we lose in it tonight, Ill hate it.
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my 13 year old wants the third kit - says its the best
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my 13 year old wants the third kit - says its the best
My 34 year old son said the same to me some 20 minute's ago :o
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Although to be fair and if your goalkeeper is, the GK strip is difficult to wear without accessories
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It’s a third kit doesn’t matter too much but I think it’s smart.
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Horrible rubbish.
Is the correct answer.
I've changed my mind now I've seen it worn in action.
It's actually alright. Takes the attention away from the godawful football, too.
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Apparently the new kit is “a nod to fashion and streetwear, the electric claret and blue strip deviates from tradition, with a progressive and fresh design that compliments the epic history of the club”
Errrrrr OK.
In my opinion it’s a bit meh but it’s not aimed at me so no doubt the ‘kids’ will love it.
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Blue sleeves mind
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I'm going to buy the home and third shirts and sew the third shirts onto the home body
£100 well spent.
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I'm going to buy the home and third shirts and sew the third shirts onto the home body
£100 well spent.
Can you turn some trousers up for me?
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Horrible rubbish.
Is the correct answer.
I've changed my mind now I've seen it worn in action.
It's actually alright. Takes the attention away from the godawful football, too.
It does look a bit better "in action", I'll agree.
But conclusive evidence that it's not very good is my 15 year old son who's got the fashion sense of a mole thinks it's smart.
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Horrible rubbish.
Is the correct answer.
I've changed my mind now I've seen it worn in action.
It's actually alright. Takes the attention away from the godawful football, too.
It does look a bit better "in action", I'll agree.
But conclusive evidence that it's not very good is my 15 year old son who's got the fashion sense of a mole thinks it's smart.
I’ve never seen a badly dressed mole
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Nice kit. I like it. Might buy the top if it's available before the contract with Luke runs out.
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I think it looks great, but don't really see the point of it. How many times in the last decade have we needed a third kit, for example?
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I think it looks great, but don't really see the point of it.
£££
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I can't wait to buy all 3 shirts next June for 30/40 sheets
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I can't wait to buy all 3 shirts next June for 30/40 sheets
Is that when they finally expect the stock to arrive?
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That's when they're unveiling the fourth kit.
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And the fourth kit consists entirely of blue sleeves. Nowt else, just blue sleeves.
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And the fourth kit consists entirely of blue sleeves. Nowt else, just blue sleeves.
Like one long, giant body warmer?
I'd definitely buy that.
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Just my personal opinion, but I think they’ve done well with all 3 kits. Away is my favourite (the white one) but loads better than last 7years or so
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I could be wrong, but I think that 3rd kit has already been used in more matches than the black Nike 3rd kit from a few years ago.
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I liked the black Nike away top and I think I still have it somewhere. I think 32 Red was the sponsor.
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I like the third kit.
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It looked better being worn last night than it did in the photos. Still, I do think it's a bit of a missed opportunity to do something a bit different.
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I’m not a fan and of the home shirt (no blue sleeves >:() but I quite like the away and third kit.
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I've ordered the away kit to play in at Tuesday night 5 aside.
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The website is saying there are some back in stock does that mean they will be at the club shop? They didn't have any earlier in the week.
Also has anybody off here got one? If so what is the quality like. Cheers.
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The website is saying there are some back in stock does that mean they will be at the club shop? They didn't have any earlier in the week.
Also has anybody off here got one? If so what is the quality like. Cheers.
The quality is excellent to be fair, feels very nicely made.
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Thanks Risso. Just phoned and they said 31st they will have stock in. I'm a bit disappointed really.
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I have received an email telling me that the 4XL shirt that I ordered as a present is delayed and they are waiting for the delivery date.
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Are there any circumstances that the 3rd kit would be less of a clash than the 1st kit?
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The shop has all 3 shirts for sale now and some training stuff
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The shop has all 3 shirts for sale now and some training stuff
At the ground?
Also is the crest plastic or embroidered?
Do you reckon they will run out any time soon?
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The shop has all 3 shirts for sale now and some training stuff
At the ground?
Also is the crest plastic or embroidered?
Do you reckon they will run out any time soon?
It was @ the ground mate......no idea about badge/crest sorry
By looking @ the stuff on the racks seemed to be less home shirts /training stuff than away/3rd kit
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Looking around today ,the third kit looks woeful on gammons
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Was a bit surprised to see all three shirts available in the shop.
I said to my lad which one would he like...."I like them all" was his reply.
He picked the home one in the end.
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The shop has all 3 shirts for sale now and some training stuff
At the ground?
Also is the crest plastic or embroidered?
Do you reckon they will run out any time soon?
It was @ the ground mate......no idea about badge/crest sorry
By looking @ the stuff on the racks seemed to be less home shirts /training stuff than away/3rd kit
Thanks mate.
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Massive queue across the car park just to get in the bloody shop yesterday before the match.
Staff member outside telling everyone that they are now fully stocked in all shirts.
Eventually got inside and the size I was after had sold out!
Joke.
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The shop has all 3 shirts for sale now and some training stuff
At the ground?
Also is the crest plastic or embroidered?
Do you reckon they will run out any time soon?
Just looking at the badge on the one I got for my lad yesterday - it seems fine. It's not like the plastic stick on ones you used to find on the Asics shirts back in the day. Definitely a "rubbery" feel to the Lion but I'd say it's pretty decent.
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Staff member outside telling everyone that they are now fully stocked in all shirts.
Not exactly sure he could be described as a staff member - maybe a rude thug would be a better description
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Massive queue across the car park just to get in the bloody shop yesterday before the match.
Staff member outside telling everyone that they are now fully stocked in all shirts.
Eventually got inside and the size I was after had sold out!
Joke.
What size and was it a home shirt?
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Massive queue across the car park just to get in the bloody shop yesterday before the match.
Staff member outside telling everyone that they are now fully stocked in all shirts.
Eventually got inside and the size I was after had sold out!
Joke.
What size and was it a home shirt?
XL Home
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Thanks Marlon. Anyone got an up close pic of the crest? Very specific and unlikely I know. Just interested in what people me a when they say it's like rubber or not embroidered.
And sorry to keep mentioning it but it please change the crest Villa.
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(https://thumb.ibb.co/dzZZ7p/image.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dzZZ7p)
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What is the point of the third shirt -would have liked to see something different. As for the club crest not my No 1 priority at the moment although it does need reviewing.
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(https://thumb.ibb.co/dzZZ7p/image.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dzZZ7p)
Many thanks mate.
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What is the point of the third shirt -would have liked to see something different. As for the club crest not my No 1 priority at the moment although it does need reviewing.
The point is to sell shirts to punters. It seems to be working
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People bemoaning the need for a third shirt, if you don't want it then don't buy it, simple.
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People bemoaning the need for a third shirt, if you don't want it then don't buy it, simple.
Exactly. As we are club with short term money issues, having three shirts flying off the shelf is a good thing.
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People bemoaning the need for a third shirt, if you don't want it then don't buy it, simple.
Exactly. As we are club with short term money issues, having three shirts flying off the shelf is a good thing.
Yep, idiotic, reckless owners drag the club to the brink and then expect the fans to help bail them out. Only in football.....
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People bemoaning the need for a third shirt, if you don't want it then don't buy it, simple.
Exactly. As we are club with short term money issues, having three shirts flying off the shelf is a good thing.
Yep, idiotic, reckless owners drag the club to the brink and then expect the fans to help bail them out. Only in football.....
Business makes bad decision that leads to supply problems and customers blame other customers for not buying earlier. Only in football...
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The Modern Heritage range on the OS looks tasty!
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Long time since I've really cared about our kit but having seen it in the flesh on Saturday it's bloody horrible, matched the performance.
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The Modern Heritage range on the OS looks tasty!
The badge looks great but they've used a strange shade of purple haven't they?
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The Modern Heritage range on the OS looks tasty!
The badge looks great but they've used a strange shade of purple haven't they?
I looked at them instore the other day and really liked it but the claret is way off, dark purple unless it does match with the colours used back in the day?
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Still no shirts in the club shop. Disgraceful imo.
For those who have seen both in the flesh which is better, the home or away?
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Still no shirts in the club shop. Disgraceful imo.
For those who have seen both in the flesh which is better, the home or away?
Away, by a mile.
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Still no shirts in the club shop. Disgraceful imo.
Really? That’s ridiculous. I’m a bit worried now as my son is going to be a mascot for the Sheffield Wednesday game so I was going to get his kit this weekend. They said that they’d be fully stocked again at the end of August!
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The heritage collection looks well-lush
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Still no shirts in the club shop. Disgraceful imo.
I ordered my lad the new keepers shirt on line. It arrived the other day. Might be worth a try. I’d been to the Villa Village previously who told me it “might come in soon”
Really? That’s ridiculous. I’m a bit worried now as my son is going to be a mascot for the Sheffield Wednesday game so I was going to get his kit this weekend. They said that they’d be fully stocked again at the end of August!
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The new navy/pink jacket looks mint.
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Does anyone know if the club shop has shirts in stock now? Was told 31st August they'd be fully in stock and would have a delivery, phoned up and they said they don't have any and to buy online. Surely it is sorted now? If they don't have any stock I'm not gonna buy one this year. We're a month into the season it's really disappointing.
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Does anyone know if the club shop has shirts in stock now? Was told 31st August they'd be fully in stock and would have a delivery, phoned up and they said they don't have any and to buy online. Surely it is sorted now? If they don't have any stock I'm not gonna buy one this year. We're a month into the season it's really disappointing.
If you can play centre half, the club will probably supply you one in time for tomorrow evening.
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Does anyone know if the club shop has shirts in stock now? Was told 31st August they'd be fully in stock and would have a delivery, phoned up and they said they don't have any and to buy online. Surely it is sorted now? If they don't have any stock I'm not gonna buy one this year. We're a month into the season it's really disappointing.
If you can play centre half, the club will probably supply you one in time for tomorrow evening.
That's probably why we haven't signed a centre half - can't get a shirt for them to wear.
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When I was in the shop on Saturday there was a good range of all 3 shirts - but not the 4XL I have on order as a present.
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New range https://www.luke1977.com/c/luke-x-avfc-limited-edition-collection/9.htm
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Ordered the Rotterdam, a damn fine jacket I hope.
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I'm not buying tat with 'Luke 1977' all over it. I'd look like a bit of the New Testament.
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Ordered the Rotterdam, a damn fine jacket I hope.
The ‘1982’ coat is rather smart.
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It's all nice stuff, but 50 quid for a tee shirt is a bit steep.
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Luke are opening a new shop in Cheltenham in a few weeks!
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Non Luke related but still to do with kits, Score Draw have now started to do a retro version of the 88-89 halved shirt. Need the 89-92 shirts too please!
https://www.scoredraw.com/football-league/aston-villa-fc
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Non Luke related but still to do with kits, Score Draw have now started to do a retro version of the 88-89 halved shirt. Need the 89-92 shirts too please!
https://www.scoredraw.com/football-league/aston-villa-fc
Delano, are these the same as the Club shop, which are terrible quality?.
Cheers
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Non Luke related but still to do with kits, Score Draw have now started to do a retro version of the 88-89 halved shirt. Need the 89-92 shirts too please!
https://www.scoredraw.com/football-league/aston-villa-fc
Delano, are these the same as the Club shop, which are terrible quality?.
Cheers
Same makers yes. I haven't had any issues with them myself.
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I've been looking for my old man's original shirt of that years, would be in near mint condition. It's so frustrating as it would never have been thrown out as I have all my Villa shirts going back to the mid 80s.
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It's horrible design really but kind of iconic being the promotion shirt. I hate it when we go away from the traditional designs such as this years Luke kit but when we did it in the past I didn't mind too much, maybe it's a youth thing.
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It is a bit marmite. I loved the Denmark 86 shirt, so was happy when we had something similar. I prefer the away one, but never owned one.
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It is a bit marmite. I loved the Denmark 86 shirt, so was happy when we had something similar. I prefer the away one, but never owned one.
I can still remember going to the old club shop as a kid and spending my Christmas money on that. £18.00 if I recall correctly, but can't remember if that was for the whole kit (claret shorts and white socks wasn't it). The hummel kits that followed those are still two of my favourite ever Villa kits.
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Check this link out Tom.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ASTON-VILLA-Original-1989-HUMMEL-Home-Shirt-EXTRA-LARGE-Adults-Rare-Old-Vintage/352477738088?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ASTON-VILLA-Original-1989-HUMMEL-Home-Shirt-EXTRA-LARGE-Adults-Rare-Old-Vintage/352477738088?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649)
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I've been looking for my old man's original shirt of that years, would be in near mint condition. It's so frustrating as it would never have been thrown out as I have all my Villa shirts going back to the mid 80s.
the only shirt ive thrown out is that bloody macron tat. Bloody toilet signs peeling off the shoulders, stitching coming undone, purple colour. They really were bilge....
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I've been looking for my old man's original shirt of that years, would be in near mint condition. It's so frustrating as it would never have been thrown out as I have all my Villa shirts going back to the mid 80s.
the only shirt ive thrown out is that bloody macron tat. Bloody toilet signs peeling off the shoulders, stitching coming undone, purple colour. They really were bilge....
Nothing is made to last these days !
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Check this link out Tom.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ASTON-VILLA-Original-1989-HUMMEL-Home-Shirt-EXTRA-LARGE-Adults-Rare-Old-Vintage/352477738088?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ASTON-VILLA-Original-1989-HUMMEL-Home-Shirt-EXTRA-LARGE-Adults-Rare-Old-Vintage/352477738088?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649)
I've still got my home and away one. The bloody things have shrunk obviously
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I have mine, trouble is, I was 13 when I first had it. I'm tempted to place a bid.
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Check this link out Tom.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ASTON-VILLA-Original-1989-HUMMEL-Home-Shirt-EXTRA-LARGE-Adults-Rare-Old-Vintage/352477738088?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ASTON-VILLA-Original-1989-HUMMEL-Home-Shirt-EXTRA-LARGE-Adults-Rare-Old-Vintage/352477738088?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649)
Proper shirt with a proper badge that is!
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Anyone owning the white/black/purple Hummel away shirt from 89/90 in size small or medium with a desire to sell, please do PM me. I've been searching for yonks!
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Umbro kits!! When did these start going on sale? Fantastic!!
https://m.shop.avfc.co.uk/stores/astonvilla/mobile/en/product/aston-villa-1980-away-shirt/243704?categories=retro-shirts
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Umbro kits!! When did these start going on sale? Fantastic!!
https://m.shop.avfc.co.uk/stores/astonvilla/mobile/en/product/aston-villa-1980-away-shirt/243704?categories=retro-shirts
The stuff of beauty!
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Umbro kits!! When did these start going on sale? Fantastic!!
https://m.shop.avfc.co.uk/stores/astonvilla/mobile/en/product/aston-villa-1980-away-shirt/243704?categories=retro-shirts
Ordered mine. I feel like it's 1978 all over again!
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Umbro kits!! When did these start going on sale? Fantastic!!
https://m.shop.avfc.co.uk/stores/astonvilla/mobile/en/product/aston-villa-1980-away-shirt/243704?categories=retro-shirts
The finest football shirt ever made, bar fkn none!
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Just received mine today..... It is a thing of beauty! :)
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Just received mine today..... It is a thing of beauty! :)
I have a version of that but without the Umbro on the sleeves - it is in an Airtex material and I love it
That Umbro one is my fave shirt of all time
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Check this link out Tom.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ASTON-VILLA-Original-1989-HUMMEL-Home-Shirt-EXTRA-LARGE-Adults-Rare-Old-Vintage/352477738088?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ASTON-VILLA-Original-1989-HUMMEL-Home-Shirt-EXTRA-LARGE-Adults-Rare-Old-Vintage/352477738088?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649)
Thanks mate. Still got the ones I had as a kid and they are still two of my favourites, probably remembered so fondly because of the season we had as well.
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Mine's arrived, and it's every bit as good as I'd hoped. Love it.
Now, can we put a call into those nice people at Le Coq Sportif...?
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Mine's arrived, and it's every bit as good as I'd hoped. Love it.
Now, can we put a call into those nice people at Le Coq Sportif...?
What's the material like please? Is it like a t-shirt or more shiny like a more modern footy kit?
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Just ordered both the home and away Umbro shirts, hope they're as good as they look!
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What is the fitting like please? I'm sure i read earlier to order a size lower than normal, as they were quite big, but i can't find the quote now.
Cheers
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Just received mine today..... It is a thing of beauty! :)
I have a version of that but without the Umbro on the sleeves - it is in an Airtex material and I love it
That Umbro one is my fave shirt of all time
I'm fairly certain the original was an airtex type material too.
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I see they don't come in XXL, got lay off the sausage rolls I guess.
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Looks like they sold out of large, hope they are restocking!
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I had all 3 Umbro retro shirts arrive in the post today. Unfortunately I was sent the wrong size of the 80/81 home so can’t comment on that. The away is a thing of beauty. I got a size lower than usual and it fits a treat. It’s feels like a kind of cotton and nylon combo and the material is stretchy. The 92/93 home is a bit more true to size and is pretty much a bang on replica of the official shirt I had as a kid as far as I remember. Felt sponsor and all.
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What is the fitting like please? I'm sure i read earlier to order a size lower than normal, as they were quite big, but i can't find the quote now.
Cheers
I read elsewhere (MOMS facebook page) that the sizing is large and a few people were suggesting order a size down.
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What is the fitting like please? I'm sure i read earlier to order a size lower than normal, as they were quite big, but i can't find the quote now.
Cheers
I read elsewhere (MOMS facebook page) that the sizing is large and a few people were suggesting order a size down.
I’m usually wavering between small and medium so ordered both...the small is plenty big enough so I’d agree - size down
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Had the 1980 home turn up today.
Very good quality (not fashioned from inch thick cloth like the non Umbro retro shirts are).
I wish they'd do the 1992 white away shirt.
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Didn't know Umbro were still a going concern. Were the originals back in the day made by Umbro?
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Are they light enough to play 5-a-side in?
Can just imagine myself strolling around the pitch in one.
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Had the 1980 home turn up today.
Very good quality (not fashioned from inch thick cloth like the non Umbro retro shirts are).
I wish they'd do the 1992 white away shirt.
Yep, loved that one. This would be a good one as well:
https://www.vintagefootballshirts.com/products/1991-93-aston-villa-third-shirt-bnib-l/12063?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIn9qQ-JuN3gIVRud3Ch0hjwGcEAkYBSABEgKlePD_BwE (https://www.vintagefootballshirts.com/products/1991-93-aston-villa-third-shirt-bnib-l/12063?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIn9qQ-JuN3gIVRud3Ch0hjwGcEAkYBSABEgKlePD_BwE)
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Regarding this umbro away retro shirt. I see medium and large are sold out. So will have to look elsewhere for them . I'm normally an xl, but understand the chest measurement is 25 inches (which seems massive). Is anybody on here who has this shirt in medium or large able to put the measurement on here please. Cheers
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Just ordered both the home and away Umbro shirts, hope they're as good as they look!
White away been taken off website completely now, gutted, prob be weeks to get it back in stock
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Just ordered both the home and away Umbro shirts, hope they're as good as they look!
White away been taken off website completely now, gutted, prob be weeks to get it back in stock
Order it from Score Draw instead? Must admit this is all very Villa, launch a product, tweet the arse off it then realise they haven’t anything to sell.
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Score draw and kit bag sold out of most sizes aswell.
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Just ordered both the home and away Umbro shirts, hope they're as good as they look!
White away been taken off website completely now, gutted, prob be weeks to get it back in stock
I ordered one 4 days ago while still showing my size in stock & heard nothing since .... this explains why .
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Looks like they have all sizes of the home in stock now. Has anyone been down to the shop to see if they have any in stock down there?
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The modern heritage range is very nice
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Just ordered both the home and away Umbro shirts, hope they're as good as they look!
White away been taken off website completely now, gutted, prob be weeks to get it back in stock
I ordered one 4 days ago while still showing my size in stock & heard nothing since .... this explains why .
Mine turned up today, I'm normally between L and XL so went for XL (before reading the comments about the sizing) and they're like fucking Rent-a-Tent! Oh well, will just have to swap them and the away is back in stock on 1st November but i'm impressed with the quality, both shirts look great.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DpoexFkX4AATxcq.jpg)
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I had that kit in 1978, I wore it to death.
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(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2015/3/27/1427460294317/aeaf5ea1-625f-4e0c-8ee2-04a50a6bc2f2-2060x1305.jpeg?width=1010&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=52fae300f8b13f6288de25ac121160a3)
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Under the moon of love;
I think Showaddywaddy may have been at the Night Out when that picture was taken,
About 3 weeks back, they were appearing at New Oscott retirement Village
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I use to have that photo in a copy of Shoot.
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Best kit ever and I loved those socks
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My son is 18 and desperate to get one of the away shirts "it's sick, best kit I've ever seen" is the view from the yoof!
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(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2015/3/27/1427460294317/aeaf5ea1-625f-4e0c-8ee2-04a50a6bc2f2-2060x1305.jpeg?width=1010&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=52fae300f8b13f6288de25ac121160a3)
Is that the French band Aston Villa? :-)
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Sasa Curcic on acoustic.
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Under the moon of love;
I think Showaddywaddy may have been at the Night Out when that picture was taken,
About 3 weeks back, they were appearing at New Oscott retirement Village
Wasn’t there a story going around that Romeo, the drummer from shawaddywaddy, was Dion Dublin’s Dad? I might have dreamt it.
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Under the moon of love;
I think Showaddywaddy may have been at the Night Out when that picture was taken,
About 3 weeks back, they were appearing at New Oscott retirement Village
They say you play New Oscott Retirement Village twice, once in the way up, once on the way down.
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Have the club shop sold out of the first team kits.
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Under the moon of love;
I think Showaddywaddy may have been at the Night Out when that picture was taken,
About 3 weeks back, they were appearing at New Oscott retirement Village
I'd have thought they'd be the resident band by now
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Have the club shop sold out of the first team kits.
Was down in the club shop earlier, they have lots of all 3 kits in all sizes.
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Under the moon of love;
I think Showaddywaddy may have been at the Night Out when that picture was taken,
About 3 weeks back, they were appearing at New Oscott retirement Village
Wasn’t there a story going around that Romeo, the drummer from shawaddywaddy, was Dion Dublin’s Dad? I might have dreamt it.
I remember that, bit of a Bob Hollness/Baker Street Sax scenario. Romeo Challenger was an early drumming hero of mine and cruelly overlooked on the recent "Art Of Drumming" documentary on Sky Arts. He used to chew gum and look really mean as he was bashing away.
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Under the moon of love;
I think Showaddywaddy may have been at the Night Out when that picture was taken,
About 3 weeks back, they were appearing at New Oscott retirement Village
Wasn’t there a story going around that Romeo, the drummer from shawaddywaddy, was Dion Dublin’s Dad? I might have dreamt it.
I remember that, bit of a Bob Hollness/Baker Street Sax scenario. Romeo Challenger was an early drumming hero of mine and cruelly overlooked on the recent "Art Of Drumming" documentary on Sky Arts. He used to chew gum and look really mean as he was bashing away.
'Bashing away' - fnarr fnarr!
sorry
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Does anyone know if the club shop stays open after the game? I need to buy something today but may not get chance beforehand.
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Pretty sure it does for an hour or so.
Edit https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2018/08/24/bank-holiday-opening-hours-this-weekend
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Does anyone know if the shop has a full selection of sizes in at the moment.
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They did yesterday
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Pretty sure it does for an hour or so.
Edit https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2018/08/24/bank-holiday-opening-hours-this-weekend
Thanks Frank
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Does anyone know if the club shop stays open after the game? I need to buy something today but may not get chance beforehand.
Captive market, only happens approx 25 times a season. They'd be boneheads not to.
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Just ordered the retro umbro away and training polo shirt from Fanatics.co.uk 20% off all villa clothes for 24 hours.
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Luke opens in 'Nam
https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/whats-on/shopping/mammoth-queues-cheltenham-town-centre-2140874
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Still no Medium and Large of the retro White away kit. The current away kit also only has 4XL available by the looks of things.
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Looks like all sizes apart from XL are available on the online store today
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All sizes are available to pre-order now with delivery from 30/11/18!
I know it's been popular but this distribution deal promised fast responses! We'll be almost 4 months into the season!
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They've been in stock on and off since they were released. Surely you've not missed every opportunity to grab one ?
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They've been in stock on and off since they were released. Surely you've not missed every opportunity to grab one ?
Is there any situation where you might think that this company could possibly be in the wrong?
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If the kits are selling out that fast, and every time a new order sells out, thats a good thing, I think. Or there is a massive mess up with the distribution
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Well the 1980 home shirt has arrived. Utter perfection. I don't think I'm ever going to take it off. Maybe when the away one comes...
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I have to say, there were plenty of kits in all sizes in the shop for the Brentford game, but the place was just buzzing. Literally buzzing - so I'm not surprised if certain sizes sold out again.
I can't remember seeing it that busy for a long old while.
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I would just like to add that I have had no issue ordering or receiving any merc in NZ.
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I would just like to add that I have had no issue ordering or receiving any merc in NZ.
Lucky you, why not just get a ford like everyone else? ;-)
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just has my away 1980 top delivered and a incredible thing of beauty it is...
UTV
The Doc
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I’m excited they’ve got the old umbro away top back in stock. I reallly want one. But....what’s the verdict on the sizing? Normal football shirts, I’d be a large, but seen a few posts about maybe getting a M. Anyone know what’s what? I’m going to get a this season home shirt too, for good measure.
They’ve cracked it now Villa, with the old Le Coq stuff- very nice. I remember being gutted as a kid when they changed up the old European cup kit, but I now reckon looking back the 83/4 home and away effort from Le coq was bang up there too!
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I should add- that I’m in Oz, so not easy to send a badly sized shirt back
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They've been in stock on and off since they were released. Surely you've not missed every opportunity to grab one ?
Is there any situation where you might think that this company could possibly be in the wrong?
I would guess many times. But not when the new kits and merch range are so overwhelmingly popular. They keep restocking, they keep selling out. They keep restocking, they keep selling out.
I'm not sure what else they can do. It seems like there's absolutely nothing to moan about to me.
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They've been in stock on and off since they were released. Surely you've not missed every opportunity to grab one ?
Is there any situation where you might think that this company could possibly be in the wrong?
I would guess many times. But not when the new kits and merch range are so overwhelmingly popular. They keep restocking, they keep selling out. They keep restocking, they keep selling out.
I'm not sure what else they can do. It seems like there's absolutely nothing to moan about to me.
If it's so incredibly popular (which I doubt) then perhaps by now they should have increased production. There is absolutely no excuse this far down the line to have such delays.
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Well the 1980 home shirt has arrived. Utter perfection. I don't think I'm ever going to take it off. Maybe when the away one comes...
My away one arrived today. Ordered it when it said delivery from 1/11 a couple of weeks ago. It's beautiful.
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They've been in stock on and off since they were released. Surely you've not missed every opportunity to grab one ?
Is there any situation where you might think that this company could possibly be in the wrong?
I would guess many times. But not when the new kits and merch range are so overwhelmingly popular. They keep restocking, they keep selling out. They keep restocking, they keep selling out.
I'm not sure what else they can do. It seems like there's absolutely nothing to moan about to me.
Surely the obvious thing they could do would be to produce enough of them to satisfy demand - they are currently not doing this, because they keep selling out.
For clarity, I personally don't give a shit, I won't ever buy one, but I do think that to have people wanting to give the club money to buy a shirt and struggling to do so - in November - is really not good business.
What's more, it was precisely this sort of thing the club went out of their way to tell us they were going to make a thing of the past with this "groundbreaking" arrangement.
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Tricky thing to predict- demand. If you go on previous trends, you’re not comparing products like for like. You’ll likely get a core number who will buy the latest shirt come what may. The marginal sales will depend on how well received the design is. I love the current shirt, home and away. But it’s clearly divided opinion on here. I might love it, but for every one of me, 5 people might hate it. Who knows how it will sell until it sells, or doesn’t? You can’t really blame the club / suppliers for being cautious with supply when you consider the financial position we were in before the season started and they had to deliver a new shirt / strip/ range.
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No company in the world would order say 500k and risk being left with 300k, that's utter madness. And no doubt why we always have half price sales of unsold stock every single season. Hopefully that lesson has now been learned.
I'd guess we ordered an initial run based on our previous kit sales, then once they realised these were the most popular shirts in decades have continued to place sensible orders to cover demand. How they can get knocked for it i don't know. Rarely, have they been out of stock (online at least) for more than a few weeks at a time. Even the club shop has had them when the online option has been sold out and vice versa.
In our family, we've managed to buy both home and away (multiple ones) and the new white retro one without any bother at all.
Just be grateful we've done roaring merch business for once says me.
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Absolute nonsense.
I worked in supply chain environments for 30 years. Forecasting was a major part of my remit. If I got it as wrong as the guys at Villa, and as often, I wouldn't have lasted 30 weeks.
The Retro kits have got a very long shelf life, there is no need to be cautious with a product like that.
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No company in the world would order say 500k and risk being left with 300k, that's utter madness. And no doubt why we always have half price sales of unsold stock every single season. Hopefully that lesson has now been learned.
I'd guess we ordered an initial run based on our previous kit sales, then once they realised these were the most popular shirts in decades have continued to place sensible orders to cover demand. How they can get knocked for it i don't know. Rarely, have they been out of stock (online at least) for more than a few weeks at a time. Even the club shop has had them when the online option has been sold out and vice versa.
In our family, we've managed to buy both home and away (multiple ones) and the new white retro one without any bother at all.
Just be grateful we've done roaring merch business for once says me.
So they realise they're really popular, yet still don't order enough. Given the key time for kits sales is when the value is highest (at the beginning of the season) to say they are only out of stock for a few weeks at a time is a joke.
Given the fanfare announcement, the consumer testing they no doubt did and initial demand, they must have known how it would be and if they didn't, what the hell are they playing at?
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I do have some sympathy for them in this one. All the club have to work on is sales of previous kits and an assumption that numbers will be roughly similar year on year. It is not like fans of other clubs are going to buy them or that they will suddenly be what man about town in Milan is going to be sporting this year. There is also a finite market for Villa shirts, at some point everyone who wants one will have one.
If they under produced based on those criteria then they are at fault but otherwise they are victims of their own success. It will be so like the Villa that next season they up production to match the demand from this year only to release a shirt that everybody hates.
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I reckon a lot of the bother will be down to the financial unrest before the new owners took over. If suppliers were worrying about getting paid then I would think that the normal chain as it was expected to work broke down somewhat, and they've been playing catch up ever since. I got the two XL kits I wanted (to play five aside in) with no bother at all.
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Selling out initially when they didn't know how popular the shirts were going to be is fair enough.
Still selling out in November when they've got four months of experience of just how popular they are is simply incompetent.
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Absolute nonsense.
I worked in supply chain environments for 30 years. Forecasting was a major part of my remit. If I got it as wrong as the guys at Villa, and as often, I wouldn't have lasted 30 weeks.
I also work in a supply and demand industry of sorts, and more often than not things sell out. I know how niche my market it is though so I never go head first into making more as the interest may already be exhausted. The only people on this planet interested in the new Aston Villa kits are Aston Villa supporters i'd assume. So it's a bit different to most retail products surely? It's not like a pair of trainers that are suddenly all the rage is it?
Dunno how you can say they've got it wrong as everybody that wanted a shirt has either got one, or at the very least ordered one quite clearly.
As for the summer being the key sales time that's clearly not right either seeing as they've sold out yet again and we're in November.
Just enjoy the success of the revolutionary (?) new kit idea we had and the extra income it's generating at a time when it's needed most.
It's not often we get things right these days.
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I think the new home shirts are popular as Villa supporter shirts, sadly we have to watch the first team turn out in them.
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The very fact that it is a limited market, and in this day and digital age a largely quantifiable one, that makes the situation laughable. It's certainly can not be used as an excuse for why we keep getting it wrong.
Anybody who has worked in supply chain would love such a known, captive, market with very limited variables.
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I’m excited they’ve got the old umbro away top back in stock. I reallly want one. But....what’s the verdict on the sizing? Normal football shirts, I’d be a large, but seen a few posts about maybe getting a M. Anyone know what’s what? I’m going to get a this season home shirt too, for good measure.
They’ve cracked it now Villa, with the old Le Coq stuff- very nice. I remember being gutted as a kid when they changed up the old European cup kit, but I now reckon looking back the 83/4 home and away effort from Le coq was bang up there too!
In a moment of rare giddiness i got the home and away Umbros. They are lovely as said.
I'm 6'3 and 16 stone of solid chub. The XL are ok, but maybe a bit long and loose. If I was ordering again I would indeed go a size down.
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L and XL still out of stock!
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L and XL still out of stock!
Fear not, you're in luck this morning
https://shop.avfc.co.uk/stores/astonvilla/en/product/aston-villa-home-shirt-2018-19/240994?categories=football-kits%2Chome-kit
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L and XL still out of stock!
Fear not, you're in luck this morning
https://shop.avfc.co.uk/stores/astonvilla/en/product/aston-villa-home-shirt-2018-19/240994?categories=football-kits%2Chome-kit
Cheers, I meant the retro away!
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They had stock of the 1980 away shirt in L earlier, looks like it’s sold out already.
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They had stock of the 1980 away shirt in L earlier, looks like it’s sold out already.
I got one!
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I'm happy for you Drumm, it's been in the back of your mind lately, now wear with pride.
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I'm happy for you Drumm, it's been in the back of your mind lately, now wear with pride.
Haha! Nah, I've not mentioned it much!
I do think it's the sort of thing (kits etc) that any fan should expect to be in stock and available until Spring at least.
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Oh, and I plan to wear it for 5-a-side on Monday. Then to the pub on Sunday week.
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Sport and leisure wear, consummate clothing.
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Sport and leisure wear, consummate clothing.
Well it has to be done. If we win maybe I'll keep it on forever.
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Mine arrived today, they are beautiful, but very “roomy” , defintely go a size down from your usual size, could have got away with an M
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Sorry if this has been asked already, but for anyone with the 1980 Umbro shirts, what is the material like?
I had the Rotterdam shirt that was done by Score Draw but the material wasn't that good and I'd like to know if these ones are any better. The website says 100% cotton. Are they stretchy at all? Do they feel like football shirts or t shirts?
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Bought the away umbro from fanatics website. Sent it back. Lovely shirt but the material is so thin and being white it is very see through. Missus laughed when I tried it on, could see my nipples, hairy chest and my trouser line.
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Bought the away umbro from fanatics website. Sent it back. Lovely shirt but the material is so thin and being white it is very see through. Missus laughed when I tried it on, could see my nipples, hairy chest and my trouser line.
Thanks for the reply mate.
Does it feel like a cotton t shirt?
I don't mind people seeing my nipples. I have a tremendous physique.
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Sorry if this has been asked already, but for anyone with the 1980 Umbro shirts, what is the material like?
I had the Rotterdam shirt that was done by Score Draw but the material wasn't that good and I'd like to know if these ones are any better. The website says 100% cotton. Are they stretchy at all? Do they feel like football shirts or t shirts?
I have the away one. It is majestic. That material called airtex or very similar, it’s not that horrible thick cotton that some of the old shirts replica shirts were made from.
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Bought the away umbro from fanatics website. Sent it back. Lovely shirt but the material is so thin and being white it is very see through. Missus laughed when I tried it on, could see my nipples, hairy chest and my trouser line.
Thanks for the reply mate.
Does it feel like a cotton t shirt?
I don't mind people seeing my nipples. I have a tremendous physique.
It's more of a summer shirt than a winter one. Super stretchy too so if you're more Sylvester Stallone than Sylvester McCoy, go two sizes smaller.
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My retro Umbro tops arrived today. Absolutely gorgeous, I couldn't be happier. I would echo the opinion that you should probably go a size down from your normal as I took a gamble on a small and they fit perfectly - I wear medium in literally every other tshirt/jumper/top I own. The material is exactly what I expected a retro football top be made from - not cottony at all for those interested.
Any international buyers: it took 10 days between getting the email confirming they'd shipped to getting them at my door in New Zealand. I got 25% off because it was my first order after registering with Fanatics plus free international shipping via a discount code I googled so they cost me the grand total of $58NZ - roughly 30 quid.
Hardest part of the whole thing has been the wife intercepting them and putting them away for the kids to give me at Xmas.
*EDIT to add that both the home and away are now showing all sizes in stock but the price has jumped from $38.56 to $44.99. I'm not sure whether this is just for the international Fanatisc site or the UK one too, however.
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Just to echo, I have both the 1980 tops, and they are top notch quality, way better than the thick material they used to use on them.
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I played well at 5-a-side in mine. Rolled back the years....
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I had this season's away kit on at 5-a-side last night. Scored 3 and set up 2. Setting traps all over midfield I was. (Cunningly disguised as giving the balla way a lot).
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How about your offloads?
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How about your offloads?
Well I pulled my socks up, got my boots on, and did all that was asked of me. Which was nothing as we don't have a manager.
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I have got the 1980 away shirt now. Its just beautiful there are no other words for it.
It has been described as 'classy'. But these are not my words. These are the words of an Eintracht Frankfurt supporting German friend.
Decent price as well, as I've seen other reissues by other clubs selling at the same price as current replicas.
Really happy with it. And yes they do run a little large but that's fine by me.
Can't see my nipples through it though as I had been warned.
Overall a lovely shirt, I may get the home one at the end of the season.
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Can't see my nipples through it though as I had been warned.
Bugger, was really looking forward to that as well.
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Can't see my nipples through it though as I had been warned.
Bugger, was really looking forward to that as well.
You could see mine the other night. Mind it was a bit chilly and they were cold.
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I'm sure this needs to be in Off Topic
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3rd shirt now available to pre order online.
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Anyone know when the 1981 umbro away will be back in stock?
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I know it's sacrilege but I don't really like two lions on the shirt. Sorry.
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Anyone know when the 1981 umbro away will be back in stock?
Bugger. Hadn’t realised this was no longer available. Was just looking online and couldn’t find it.
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Have to say, the fact that with Christmas fast approaching, stocks of items that I want are dreadful (i.e. zero)- we never seem to have our shelves fully stocked at what is a massive selling period do we?
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Have to say, the fact that with Christmas fast approaching, stocks of items that I want are dreadful (i.e. zero)- we never seem to have our shelves fully stocked at what is a massive selling period do we?
Are there going to be any kids shirts by Christmas? Pretty poor if not.
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Anyone know how or why the umbro shirts from the championship season are now available to buy either online or at the shop? We have had those retro style shirts without the umbro logo for years but it seems more clubs are reissuing old classic shirts (especially by Umbro) and they are selling like hot cakes. Mine showed up yesterday and it really is a thing of beauty, well done Villa for making it happen.
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No sign of any '81 away stock across the whole internetz but I notice they've released an away shirt from our last promotion season. Quite dapper too, certainly an improvement on the jam-roly-poly home shirt that year.
(https://image2.kbobject.com/avfc-243706.jpg?width=250&height=250&quality=80)
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Just phoned customer services to ask if they'll have kids shirts by Christmas. 'Dunno, you'll have to keep checking the website'. 'But don't you know when you'll be getting more stock?' 'No, they just tell us to keep checking the website.'
I can't believe that the club produce a new kit every year, forcing parents to waste money on their overpriced tat then don't even have them in stock at Christmas AND can't even tell you when they expect any. And I don't even want to buy it because it doesn't have blue fucking sleeves!! Of course, I could say no to my boy, but as we live outside Brum and every boy at school supports a Prem club and tells him Villa are rubbish, I just want to keep him as positive as I can, so thanks Villa for making it so unnecessarily difficult to nurture the next generation of support.
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Just called up the club who told me they've got loads at Villa Village and they've stuck one behind the counter for me. Now, the people I spoke to in the online store had non-Birmingham accents and made it sound like the warehouse is nowhere near Villa, whereas the lovely person I spoke to at the ground was a proper Brummy and maybe got what it means a bit more.
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I have had cause a few times recently to go into the store about online orders The staff have to phone the same number as us to talk about online orders and wait in the queue to be answered. I found the staff in the store very helpful.
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I have had cause a few times recently to go into the store about online orders The staff have to phone the same number as us to talk about online orders and wait in the queue to be answered. I found the staff in the store very helpful.
That's why it's such a shame they shut the store in town. For people who live in the South of Brum (and most of them are Villa fans as has been discussed elsewhere) VP is not easy to get to whereas they can pop into town easily. Same for us exiles, we get a train into Birmingham to go shopping and we used to be able to just pop into the Villa shop but now we can't, plus they don't sell Villa kit in sports shops anymore.
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Hopefully in coming years, we'll see a kit deal that allows Villa gear to be sold more widely than just direct or at the VP store. Then I'll be moaning that we've gone all Man City!
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Gutted can’t see 81 away replica online to order , any ideas ? What is sizing of it like ? Also just received an email for a complete new dance of LUKE roper training wear now in stock..... strange time to launch half way through a season !?
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I have had cause a few times recently to go into the store about online orders The staff have to phone the same number as us to talk about online orders and wait in the queue to be answered. I found the staff in the store very helpful.
This, online orders aren't handled by the club shop these days from what i can gather. Online and in store purchases are two separate entities doing two different jobs with two different stock levels. It is 2018 after all.
I'm pretty sure Kitbag do all the online stuff not some oiks round the back of the club shop like in the old days (but i could be wrong)
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Gutted can’t see 81 away replica online to order , any ideas ?
I noticed it had disappeared but by chance was able to go into the Villa Village last week and they had a few but all XXL and above. When I asked about that particular shirt a member of staff said it was selling out as fast as it became available.
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I have had cause a few times recently to go into the store about online orders The staff have to phone the same number as us to talk about online orders and wait in the queue to be answered. I found the staff in the store very helpful.
That's why it's such a shame they shut the store in town. For people who live in the South of Brum (and most of them are Villa fans as has been discussed elsewhere) VP is not easy to get to whereas they can pop into town easily. Same for us exiles, we get a train into Birmingham to go shopping and we used to be able to just pop into the Villa shop but now we can't, plus they don't sell Villa kit in sports shops anymore.
The problem is that most of the demographic that buy shirts (i.e. younger folks) are all into online shopping these days. The City Centre shop obviously didn't make money, otherwise it wouldn't be shut.
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I have had cause a few times recently to go into the store about online orders The staff have to phone the same number as us to talk about online orders and wait in the queue to be answered. I found the staff in the store very helpful.
That's why it's such a shame they shut the store in town. For people who live in the South of Brum (and most of them are Villa fans as has been discussed elsewhere) VP is not easy to get to whereas they can pop into town easily. Same for us exiles, we get a train into Birmingham to go shopping and we used to be able to just pop into the Villa shop but now we can't, plus they don't sell Villa kit in sports shops anymore.
The problem is that most of the demographic that buy shirts (i.e. younger folks) are all into online shopping these days. The City Centre shop obviously didn't make money, otherwise it wouldn't be shut.
I think they said the New Street shop was losing money at the time it was finally closed. Not enough foot traffic to cover the rental cost, which having been in many times to see only about 2 people shuffling around wasn't surprising.
We live in an online world as you said. And this thing about having an exclusive deal with Kitbag online means more money going into the clubs coffers rather than into various sports shops of course. This is the way it is nowadays so we've all got to get used to it.
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Gutted can’t see 81 away replica online to order , any ideas ?
I noticed it had disappeared but by chance was able to go into the Villa Village last week and they had a few but all XXL and above. When I asked about that particular shirt a member of staff said it was selling out as fast as it became available.
XXL probably what I’ll need but I’m 150 miles away 😩 makes it more frustrating I can’t get one posted
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I have had cause a few times recently to go into the store about online orders The staff have to phone the same number as us to talk about online orders and wait in the queue to be answered. I found the staff in the store very helpful.
That's why it's such a shame they shut the store in town. For people who live in the South of Brum (and most of them are Villa fans as has been discussed elsewhere) VP is not easy to get to whereas they can pop into town easily. Same for us exiles, we get a train into Birmingham to go shopping and we used to be able to just pop into the Villa shop but now we can't, plus they don't sell Villa kit in sports shops anymore.
The problem is that most of the demographic that buy shirts (i.e. y