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Title: Ray Wilkins
Post by: johnny from donny on March 30, 2018, 10:50:54 PM
In an induced coma after suffering a heart attack.

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Post by: kippaxvilla2 on March 30, 2018, 10:51:52 PM
God bless Ray.  Was always a respectful man.  Hope he pulls through.
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Post by: olaftab on March 30, 2018, 11:00:48 PM
Terrible news. Was listening to him earlier this week on radio. Get well soon Ray.
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Post by: Steve67 on March 30, 2018, 11:01:40 PM
Bless you Ray, more to life than football. Get well.
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Post by: Deano's Mullet on March 30, 2018, 11:08:32 PM
In an induced coma after suffering a heart attack.



it was only yesterday i was watching footage of him manage QPR at Villa in 1996. All the best, Ray.
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Post by: garyshawsknee on March 31, 2018, 12:28:25 AM
Only heard him on the radio the other day, always seems like a decent, respectful man, get well soon.
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Post by: tony scott on March 31, 2018, 05:20:33 AM
Well liked in the game hope you pull through
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Post by: wittonwarrior on March 31, 2018, 07:05:58 AM
Prayers for you hoping for a speedy recovery. 
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Post by: Nunkin1965 on March 31, 2018, 09:25:38 AM
Thoughts are with him and his family. Seems a total gent and his love for this game of ours is unquestionable.
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Post by: villa `cross the mersey on March 31, 2018, 09:48:21 AM
Life is so very fragile -  I echo the sentiments above.......always comes across as a gentleman and a person devoted to the game.
My thoughts go out to him and his family 
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Post by: Clampy on March 31, 2018, 09:55:07 AM
A mate of mine met him when he was here and said he was an extremely nice bloke. Hope he pulls through.
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Post by: SoccerHQ on March 31, 2018, 10:46:00 AM
Not a fan of his short spell here or his punditry on his radio but terrible for his family so hope he pulls through.
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Post by: Damo70 on March 31, 2018, 11:28:23 AM
I heard the news late last night or early morning (I think I was dozing with Talksport on). I think they used the term 'massive heart attack' unless I imagined that bit. Like many others I heard him on Talksport only the other day. He seems decent, genuine and knowledgable and I wish him a full recovery. Wasn't it BFR who nicknamed him 'The Crab' for his sideways passing habit?
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Post by: in exile on March 31, 2018, 04:25:59 PM
Sincere best wishes to Ray and his family
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Post by: TheMalandro on March 31, 2018, 04:36:14 PM
Best wishes to the Wilkins family. Sad to hear.
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Post by: Kevin Dawson on March 31, 2018, 04:41:10 PM
Thoughts are with Ray and his family. He's always come across as a thoroughly decent man.
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Post by: Ian. on March 31, 2018, 05:19:15 PM
Thoughts go out to the family, very sad to hear.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 31, 2018, 06:30:26 PM
Hopefully that's all the posts gone.
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Post by: auntiesledd on March 31, 2018, 06:37:49 PM
Hopefully that's all the posts gone.

There's still a couple appearing on this page (2).

Best wishes to Ray & his family. Here's hoping he pulls through & gets back to full health soon.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 31, 2018, 06:40:23 PM
That should be all of them now. Hopefully.
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Post by: TheMalandro on March 31, 2018, 06:50:04 PM
That should be all of them now. Hopefully.

Good man.
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Post by: Legion on March 31, 2018, 11:18:44 PM
Just removed one more. GWS Ray Wilkins.
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Post by: Gregorys Boy on April 01, 2018, 11:32:58 AM
One of those guys you never hear a bad word against.  My thoughts are with Ray and his family at this difficult time. 
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Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on April 01, 2018, 11:50:22 AM
When he was QPR player/manager I remember he tried to stop the ref sending Lee Hendrie off on his debut.
A gentleman and sportsman in the truest sense. GWS. 
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Post by: SoccerHQ on April 01, 2018, 12:00:44 PM
One of those guys you never hear a bad word against.  My thoughts are with Ray and his family at this difficult time. 

Apart from the reaction on here when he tipped us to go down after being sacked by Sherwood!

Anyway that's irrelevant to his current plight.
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Post by: dcdavecollett on April 02, 2018, 02:00:45 PM
An absolute gentleman and great sport. I hope he recovers soon.
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Post by: Dave P on April 04, 2018, 02:13:49 PM
Just confirmed he has died, aged 61.  RIP Ray.
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Post by: garyshawsknee on April 04, 2018, 02:15:28 PM
Very sad news. Humble, decent and a very nice man.
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Post by: Dazvillain on April 04, 2018, 02:18:20 PM
Sad loss to life and the football world
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Post by: CT on April 04, 2018, 02:21:10 PM
Really sad news. RIP Ray.
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Post by: villa `cross the mersey on April 04, 2018, 02:25:55 PM
Sad news indeed -  puts worrying about football results into perspective
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Post by: SteveN on April 04, 2018, 02:31:43 PM
Always came across as a very decent man, RIP.
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Post by: AsTallAsLions on April 04, 2018, 02:32:09 PM
Shit. That is awful, awful news. RIP Ray.
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Post by: Big Dick Edwards on April 04, 2018, 02:54:37 PM
RIP Ray.
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Post by: wittonwarrior on April 04, 2018, 03:05:36 PM
Awful news, so sad.
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Post by: dave shelley on April 04, 2018, 03:15:45 PM
RIP Ray.
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Post by: Tucson Villain on April 04, 2018, 03:16:40 PM
RIP Ray.
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Post by: Villan For Life on April 04, 2018, 03:16:45 PM
RIP Ray. As others have said a gentleman and a sportsman.

Jack Grealish has tweeted about how Ray still occasionally rang him to offer advice and encouragement. A true measure of the man.
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Post by: manic-road on April 04, 2018, 03:22:06 PM
RIP Ray, I always thought he came across as one of footballs gentlemen. Captain of Chelsea at the age of 18, 84 caps for England and a football man through and through.
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Post by: Jon Crofts on April 04, 2018, 03:27:19 PM
Never forget that goal he scored in the 83 FA Cup Final for Man United, great player and sounds like he was a proper gent as well.
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Post by: Nunkin1965 on April 04, 2018, 03:33:59 PM
Such sad news. Condolences to loved ones and friends during this awful time.
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Post by: auntiesledd on April 04, 2018, 03:37:56 PM
'Very saddened to hear of Ray's untimely passing. May he rest peacefully now.
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Post by: Monty on April 04, 2018, 03:42:40 PM
Very sad, 61 is no age at all.
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Post by: MalcolmP on April 04, 2018, 03:50:26 PM
RIP Ray - 61 is too young to die. Condolences to his family and all who knew him.
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Post by: kippaxvilla2 on April 04, 2018, 03:52:59 PM
"I don't find being considerate - and trying to help people - a weakness" Ray Wilkins on Sporting Greats in 1999.
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Post by: JUAN PABLO on April 04, 2018, 04:17:53 PM
so sad . always seemed such a gentlemen and talked a great game.  RIP Butch

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Post by: villabear on April 04, 2018, 04:25:37 PM
"I'd like to be known has someone who could keep the ball"

RIP Butch.
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Post by: The Moose on April 04, 2018, 05:08:11 PM
RIP Ray. Born two days after me, gone far too soon.
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Post by: Hookeysmith on April 04, 2018, 06:58:25 PM
Lucky to have spoke with him a few times. Always had time for anyone who wanted to speak to him. As others have said a real gentleman that a lot of the modern players could have done a lot worse to have learned from.
Sad loss to the world of football
Rip "Butch"
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Post by: TopDeck113 on April 04, 2018, 07:01:34 PM
RIP - but, please, the nickname "Butch" makes me cringe as much today as it did in circa 1978.
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Post by: JD on April 05, 2018, 09:26:39 AM
RIP. A very good footballer and a thoroughly decent guy.
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Post by: manic-road on April 05, 2018, 09:51:18 AM
RIP - but, please, the nickname "Butch" makes me cringe as much today as it did in circa 1978.

It made Ray Wilkins cringe as well, he hated it.
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Post by: Oscar Arce on April 05, 2018, 05:49:58 PM
RIP Ray, a very decent guy and football man.
Did well for us too, a thoroughly likeable individual and a tidy player too, gone way too soon.
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Post by: SheffieldVillain on April 05, 2018, 07:51:16 PM
Hopefully this link to a video on Facebook will work (for those of you on it!) - not sure how else to link the content but if someone more tech minded can, that'd be great.
https://www.facebook.com/talkSPORT/videos/10156481041659101/?hc_ref=ARRvYRPp9i6-PxssdecoaSCHezXbPREpAqVkjB1MGIo6OfWThjDtmksJxROvqBEX6Ag
 (https://www.facebook.com/talkSPORT/videos/10156481041659101/?hc_ref=ARRvYRPp9i6-PxssdecoaSCHezXbPREpAqVkjB1MGIo6OfWThjDtmksJxROvqBEX6Ag)

It's a caller to TalkSport who for a time was homeless and is recounting Ray Wilkins taking the time to go over to him and sit and chat to him, and the effect he had on him. A really nice story and by all accounts a really decent bloke.
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Post by: Kingthing on April 05, 2018, 08:01:05 PM
Hopefully this link to a video on Facebook will work (for those of you on it!) - not sure how else to link the content but if someone more tech minded can, that'd be great.
https://www.facebook.com/talkSPORT/videos/10156481041659101/?hc_ref=ARRvYRPp9i6-PxssdecoaSCHezXbPREpAqVkjB1MGIo6OfWThjDtmksJxROvqBEX6Ag
 (https://www.facebook.com/talkSPORT/videos/10156481041659101/?hc_ref=ARRvYRPp9i6-PxssdecoaSCHezXbPREpAqVkjB1MGIo6OfWThjDtmksJxROvqBEX6Ag)

It's a caller to TalkSport who for a time was homeless and is recounting Ray Wilkins taking the time to go over to him and sit and chat to him, and the effect he had on him. A really nice story and by all accounts a really decent bloke.

That was ace...made me cry a bit.
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Post by: Damo70 on April 05, 2018, 08:06:39 PM
Hopefully this link to a video on Facebook will work (for those of you on it!) - not sure how else to link the content but if someone more tech minded can, that'd be great.
https://www.facebook.com/talkSPORT/videos/10156481041659101/?hc_ref=ARRvYRPp9i6-PxssdecoaSCHezXbPREpAqVkjB1MGIo6OfWThjDtmksJxROvqBEX6Ag
 (https://www.facebook.com/talkSPORT/videos/10156481041659101/?hc_ref=ARRvYRPp9i6-PxssdecoaSCHezXbPREpAqVkjB1MGIo6OfWThjDtmksJxROvqBEX6Ag)

It's a caller to TalkSport who for a time was homeless and is recounting Ray Wilkins taking the time to go over to him and sit and chat to him, and the effect he had on him. A really nice story and by all accounts a really decent bloke.

That was ace...made me cry a bit.

I heard it as it was broadcast and I was getting a bit tearful too.

Nice interview with John Terry too about how Ray Wilkins always made the youngsters feel special by showing them the same respect he did to the senior pros.
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Post by: steamer on April 05, 2018, 09:10:05 PM
I always saw him as one of lives nice guys.
Like everyone had his challenges, but as a "face" his became public.
The story about the homeless guy is humbling.
Same age as me, with his fitness Vs mine, time to take stock.
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Post by: CT on April 05, 2018, 09:51:07 PM
Hopefully this link to a video on Facebook will work (for those of you on it!) - not sure how else to link the content but if someone more tech minded can, that'd be great.
https://www.facebook.com/talkSPORT/videos/10156481041659101/?hc_ref=ARRvYRPp9i6-PxssdecoaSCHezXbPREpAqVkjB1MGIo6OfWThjDtmksJxROvqBEX6Ag
 (https://www.facebook.com/talkSPORT/videos/10156481041659101/?hc_ref=ARRvYRPp9i6-PxssdecoaSCHezXbPREpAqVkjB1MGIo6OfWThjDtmksJxROvqBEX6Ag)

It's a caller to TalkSport who for a time was homeless and is recounting Ray Wilkins taking the time to go over to him and sit and chat to him, and the effect he had on him. A really nice story and by all accounts a really decent bloke.

That was ace...made me cry a bit.

Me too. Very dusty in here.
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Post by: Sexual Ealing on April 05, 2018, 10:29:24 PM
Fucking hell. That's amazing.
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Post by: Toronto Villa on April 06, 2018, 03:57:51 AM
Blimey. It’s always, always the little things that make the biggest difference. Ray could have walked by like millions have. I know I have. But that one conversation from someone he recognized meant so much to this fella. Good for him for getting his life back in order. Another reason why Ray Wilkins will be missed.
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Post by: JD on April 06, 2018, 10:30:00 AM
That is amazing. It just shows what a lovely and caring person Ray Wilkins was.
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Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on April 06, 2018, 01:18:35 PM
It sure does. Wonderful story.

My abiding memory of Ray Wilkins is slightly different, I think it was when he captained England against Egypt in Cairo in a friendly on 29 January 1986 or Israel, 26 February 1986. The BBC were showing the game live, the ball went out of play for a throw in and Wilkins, who must have been close to a pitch side microphone  shouts out to the ball boy, as clear as day, "Give me that feckin' ball!".
Absolute silence from the BBC commentators.
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Post by: Chris Harte on April 06, 2018, 01:25:52 PM
It sure does. Wonderful story.

My abiding memory of Ray Wilkins is slightly different, I think it was when he captained England against Egypt in Cairo in a friendly on 29 January 1986 or Israel, 26 February 1986. The BBC were showing the game live, the ball went out of play for a throw in and Wilkins, who must have been close to a pitch side microphone  shouts out to the ball boy, as clear as day, "Give me that feckin' ball!".
Absolute silence from the BBC commentators.
I have it in my mind that it was against Yugoslavia away, in the mid-80s. That said, I can't remember what I had for lunch yesterday.
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Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on April 06, 2018, 01:31:33 PM
It sure does. Wonderful story.

My abiding memory of Ray Wilkins is slightly different, I think it was when he captained England against Egypt in Cairo in a friendly on 29 January 1986 or Israel, 26 February 1986. The BBC were showing the game live, the ball went out of play for a throw in and Wilkins, who must have been close to a pitch side microphone  shouts out to the ball boy, as clear as day, "Give me that feckin' ball!".
Absolute silence from the BBC commentators.
I have it in my mind that it was against Yugoslavia away, in the mid-80s. That said, I can't remember what I had for lunch yesterday.

I just remember it being somewhere extremely hot and dry. The Israel game makes more sense as England only scored the winner in the final minutes but I'd prefer it to be the Egypt game as Sid played and scored.
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Post by: Damo70 on April 06, 2018, 06:03:11 PM
My three main memories of his playing career are his goal against Belgium in 'the tear gas game' in 1980, his FA cup final goal in 1983 and his sending off in Mexico in 1986.
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Post by: Nunkin1965 on April 12, 2018, 12:38:32 AM
My three main memories of his playing career are his goal against Belgium in 'the tear gas game' in 1980, his FA cup final goal in 1983 and his sending off in Mexico in 1986.

In a footballing sense its that FA Cup goal for United. His playing days at QPR (I remember him being in their side in the 96' season maybe and just knowing that we would score more than them because we had Yorkie and Savo!! and the fact that he never, ever seemed to give the bloody ball away!
And the sending off in Mexico of course.

But the guy did seem an absolute gent and I too listened to the Talksport Jim White show with that call from the once homeless guy and was emotionally moved by what I heard.

Rest in Peace sir.
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Post by: Damo70 on April 12, 2018, 08:16:53 AM
I liked his quirkiness. A lot of his Talksport colleagues have spoken about his replies to being asked how he was. "I'm frighteningly well fella" or "I'm frighteningly good" were some of his phrases.
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Post by: Nastylee on April 12, 2018, 01:14:57 PM
Worth remembering that he was caught drink driving on three separate occasions (I believe). For all his nice stories (and I actually quite liked him) this is terrible and he could have been another Lee Hughes quite easily.
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Post by: cheltenhamlion on April 12, 2018, 05:39:56 PM
Blimey. It’s always, always the little things that make the biggest difference. Ray could have walked by like millions have. I know I have. But that one conversation from someone he recognized meant so much to this fella. Good for him for getting his life back in order. Another reason why Ray Wilkins will be missed.

It was around the time the Premier League and we had Spurs at home. The cameras interviewed Gascoigne on the way into the ground. He wouldn't do the interview unless they bunged him twenty quid. I was a kid back then and he promptly wandered over to the fence and handed me the money. I am sure there must be loads of good stories about people you wouldn't expect to be so gracious in football.
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