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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on March 13, 2018, 06:45:34 PM
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Another big night ahead. Let’s see if we can replicate the brilliance of the weekend and get that 4 point gap in place over Fulham. Boys should be very confident.
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Win please Villa, need to maintain momentum.
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Good to see the same team.
Hoping we can make some subs early 2nd half to freshen things up.
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With 10 games to go this is the strongest line up. No need to rotate much now for the run in. If the lads can go then keep them out there. Looking forward to Jack running things tonight.
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Also best wishes tonight to Bacuna and Reading at Wolves and Villa man Dean Smith as his side face Cardiff.
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We're not at home to Mr Cock Up.
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On the train to Witton, happy with that line up.
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Interesting to see wolves made 4 changes to their line up tonight.
Bacuna on bench for royals.
Would have liked a couple of changes to the villa line up to freshen things up but match on Saturday is 530pm.
Anyway enough here for a 3-1 win.
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Heard on radio aston lane between Witton road and stoney lane is closed due to accident.
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Thought it was set up for a change to our midfield two tonight. Either BB or Lansbury could have come in. Bit of an ask for Jedinak to play twice in 4 days and Hourihane has been struggling for a while.
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From Villa Police Twitter
#avfc #utv #QPR Fans travelling to VP this evening we have serious RTC on Aston Lane between Wellhead Lane and Tesco's where we have had to close the road completely. It is expected to b closed for at least another hour expect delays & find alternate route 2 stadium
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I would of had Thor in for Hourihane but can see why he hasn't changed it.
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Right I have the night to myself. Does avtv work I keep hearing bad stories.
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Traffic a fucking nightmare.
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Someone's collapsed in front of one the Witton Lane turnstiles, fingers crossed they're ok.
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Right I have the night to myself. Does avtv work I keep hearing bad stories.
It works perfectly for me. but then, I actually live 'abroad'. ;-)
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Right I have the night to myself. Does avtv work I keep hearing bad stories.
It works very well for me.
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Right I have the night to myself. Does avtv work I keep hearing bad stories.
It works perfectly for me. but then, I actually live 'abroad'. ;-)
What? And the Rublic of Yorkshire isn’t ‘abroad’?
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Traffic a fucking nightmare.
Accident near Tesco said a official tweet
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Need to win this one or all the good work on Saturday will be undone.
Wolves should win their next two then they have Middlesbrough away.
Cardiff could drop points in their next two, Brentford and Derby, then should beat Burton.
Fulham have QPR next, so should win that, then a toughie away trip to Norwich.
Our next three QPR (h) Bolton and Hull (a) tricky, but, are all winnable
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I’m off to the cinema, last time I went when we had a match we won.
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Come on Villa!
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Talk sport 2 have it
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AVTV working OK for me so far. It's my ISP I'm worried about, my connection has been dropping constantly lately.
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Come on me babs!
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little rivers going? :)
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The atmosphere sounds very subdued.
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Cardiff losing.
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Cardiff losing
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Is the commentator wacking off or something?
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Brentford leading v Cardiff
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Does anyone have a message they want to send me? Please!
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Fuck!!! 0-1 QPR.
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Sigh.
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What the....
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Bollocks
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Oh for fucks sake, sort it out.
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That was coming
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Kind of expected that. It's all very flat.
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All very flat as I feared it would be after Saturday.
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Wake the fuck up.
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little rivers going? :)
Me too - ta very much!
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We'll win.
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The crowd need to make some noise ffs.
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Fine: need to up the tempo and get tight.
Sort of what I expected after Saturday, which was so high-octane.
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Sort it the fuck out Villa.
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Come on you Villa boys!
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It’s all a bit “after the lord mayor’s show”
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At least there's ages to go. This might not be a Rolls Royce quality game but one we have to grind out. I'll take anything!
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Bruce ‘I did say this could be a tuuufffer game than Saturday that’s what you get in the championship. The cnuts.’
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They are picking up the second balls all the time here. We need to up the tempo urgently
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Ooh, their keeper makes a save from Adomah. Come on Villa.
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We’ll still win this. Have faith. Long way to go
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How the duck did they miss that!
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We are going to do these.
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I have a bad feeling about this.
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they like kicking jack don't they
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So who's right, Bad English or Legion?
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I have a bad feeling about this.
I usually have a bad feeling about every villa game in recent years.
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Bad English! Villa to win 3-1. He says while praying.
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That Eze looks useful
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Bad Legion is right.
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Cardiff level.
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Bad Legion is right.
Agreed, draw.
We'll pick up in the second half and get one back, similar to Preston game.
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Taylor that was shit. We can’t afford to concede another
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Cardiff equalise
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Fcukin Sol bastard Bamba scores a goal he would never score if he tried it 120 times.
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Sounds dicey
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No atmosphere tonight. Come on the mighty Holte End! FFS!
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What the Hell is the matter with them tonight?
Sort it out Villa FFS!
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ffs come on lads.
Goal before HT, 1-1 then nick it 2-1.
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cornalty!
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This is shit. We seem hungover.
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Cardiff have equalised
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Jack not at his best at the moment.
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The least talked-about Villa player is Taylor; I have heard his name more than any other so far.
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Half arsed at the moment
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After the Wolves win, emotionally it is sometimes difficult to lift yourself to that level quickly. I hope I’m wrong.
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Half arsed at the moment
Sounds a bit like Holloway talking, the twat.
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Bbc has four shots on target for QPR and none for us.
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Jack not at his best at the moment.
It's just as well we didn't pre-emptively give him Player of the Season for being the best thing since sliced bread.
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Sounds fucking diabolical.
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We need an incident or something to ignite us. It's a bit flat and we seem susceptible.
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0-2 QPR.
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Jack not at his best at the moment.
It's just as well we didn't pre-emptively give him Player of the Season for being the best thing since sliced bread.
Did you know that the toaster was invented before sliced bread? Seems like reverse logic to me...
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I’ll take a spawny goal off the refs arse right now to get us going.
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FUCK OFF!
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Awful.
I thought it would be flat after Saturday but this is taking the mick.
Big winners tonight look like it will be Fulham.
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Fucking hell
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Fuck off you cockney bastards
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Nightmare.
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Fucking hell Villa!
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What the fuck is that? Hangovered
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That's fucked it. Fulham will be licking their lips.
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Unacceptable.
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We're playing awful.
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Inexcusable Totally unprofessional
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The worst performance at the most important time. I wish we'd played in the fucking snow.
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Hells bells
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Like anyone's surprised, this is fucking Villa!
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We’re completely blowing this. This is an utter disaster.
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shocking whats going on
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FFS
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Not sure we will be able to turn this around as we don’t have much on the bench tonight.
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Fielding the same squad was a terrible, terrible mistake.
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Utterly shit performance. The players look like their feet are encased in concrete.
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See you next year, lads.
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Oh dear. Oh dear. Oh dear.
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Looked like it should have been offside in the build up to the second but hard to tell for sure.
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Time for Bruce to man up and make a change
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QPR only won two away games all season, one at SHA and the other at Burton.
Away from Loftus Road they are not a good team at all.
This is pretty unprofessional from us tbh.
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We’ve definitely gone into our old ‘give the ball away cheaply’ habit
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Come on you noisy Villa fans! Roar them on!
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ok lets see what we are made of
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Get a fucking goal back.
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We'll be happy to go in 0-2 down. FFS!
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Got to get something back before HT
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So typical of the modern villa. If the gap goes to more than 4 points it’s over. Cardiff aren’t going to mess this up.
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ffs hourinae whats that
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We are losing all challenges... in wrong positions... all looks wrong. We can't hope for much playing like this.
Play offs 😢
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We somehow need to get a goal back asap if we're to avoid getting gubbed tonight. I can't say I'm feeling especially hopeful, to be fair.
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Guys it's OK.
We are made of sterner stuff.
2-0 is no problem.
We can turn this around. Lots of time.
I don't understand the panic.
The lads will bounce back, and will get the victory.
We will be on here at 9:30pm saying 'we got the three points and that's all that matters'.
This will happen.
UTV
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Let’s not go all West Ham here. Get a goal, wrestle the momentum. Still a long way to go.
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Well at the moment Bruce has been outsmarted by the bumpkin
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Pressing with 3 attempted crosses yet no in front of goal??
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I'd want 33/1 to back us from winning from this position.
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And Wolves Have scored
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Well at the moment Bruce has been outsmarted by the bumpkin
Outsmarted - or do their players want it far more than our mob tonight?
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They're picking up everything that's headed away by our defence.
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Can’t believe how many times they are picking up the loose ball
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It's going to have to be a very memorable second half.
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think they are playing 2-3 more players than us
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*off for a balti pie..*
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Classic Villa...
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Bloody awful corner from Snodgrass there
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Sounded better than from Villa. Corner. Come on.
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Wolves now ahead.
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Embarrassing, unless we turn this around the win at the weekend is completely undermined.
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Can’t believe how many times they are picking up the loose ball
We're wrecked and slow. How Bruce couldn't see this happening is beyond me. Lots of us were saying we needed fresh legs and some pace in the Pre-Match thread. Shit, irresponsible tactics.
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Eight corners and one shot on target. Pitiful.
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Shoulda scored
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Grealish should have scored apparently.
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Cardiff 1-2.
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I don't think I can stand another 45 minutes listening to this shit: especially with fucking DANTER doing the commentary. >:(
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And now AVTV is pissing about.
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FFS jammy Cardiff
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Cardiff winning
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Cardiff 2-1 up
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Great so this night is turning into a disaster.
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This half time team talk could well determine where we finish.
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Villa losing at home.
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Play offs it is Providing we don’t completely implode
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unless we score three second half its the play offs
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Not going well at the moment all round...
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no point having Jedi on now and I would even take hourinae off
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At least Barnsley and hull are winning
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Play offs it is Providing we don’t completely implode
And we wonder why people wander into Villa Park and generate no atmosphere.
We’re all doomed...
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Grealish should have scored apparently.
free header five yards out, put it straight at keeper, quality ball from Snodgrass
Grabban has hardly had a kick, Jedinak seems stuck to the ground
To give credit QPR have played very well
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Do fuck off, Cardiff. You're not impressing me.
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Long way to go still. Final league positions aren't finalised tonight :-)
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We need a half time talk to end all half time talks. Don't press the panic button as there are 45 mins to go but do press the urgency button.
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Huge roar at Molineux when they read the half time scores out.
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Massive 2nd half, i'm glass half empty but I'm convinced this isn't over.
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We're not at home to Mr Cock Up.
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those headers have to go down but jack aint harry kane and he has done pretty well up to now
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Snatching Championship football and potential financial ruin from the jaws of Premier League football and solvency.
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Huge roar at Molineux when they read the half time scores out.
Same at VP when you hear that Blose, or Tesco are losing.
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Need an absolutely huge response now.
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This is reminding me so much of Wimbledon at home in 1990...
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Put Hogan on and let's start playing a bit of fuxking football.
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We'll storm to victory in the second half.
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Need a quick goal
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Was due to go tonight but got sent to Wakefield so reduced to watching the Brentford Cardiff game - why does it look so much easier for them????
We all know whats coming now....nothing
then on 60 mins our saviour
Onumah
F**k it - just got at them, pressure the ball and they will fold, then we'll score, confidence will flow and we'll win.
Unfortunately thats not Bruce's way.
I hate to get down after Saturday but come on....same team and we get this?
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Bjarnason for Jedinak?
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Well we may as well go for it and get some support on for Grabban and take Hourihane off. They are useful in the air so we need Jedi to stay on but if we can start playing in their half then may be we can sacrifice him. It will be interesting to see what Bruce does here, the second goal may have thrown his usual caution out of the window
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We'll storm to victory in the second half.
Leej, I hope you're right.
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‘Although they’ve got 9 games left and we’ve only got 9 games left that’s a long way to go at this stage. Sooooo all to play for then? I think so do you want to bet against us?’
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Just checking on the score for the first time this evening and Oh what utter fucking fuckety fuck fuck.
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Bring Barny on? Just for the mobility? Who else do we have that can change it? Or do we let these players try and make it work?
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Now we'll see their character.
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Frustrating doesn't even come close. I'd almost be tempted to chuck on 3 subs at HT, thought I have no real idea who and what formation I'd play. Let's at least see Grabban and Hogan up front together.
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We'll storm to victory in the second half.
and the Pope will be getting married at the Vatican at the weekend :)
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Bring Kodjia on.
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Frustrating doesn't even come close. I'd almost be tempted to chuck on 3 subs at HT, thought I have no real idea who and what formation I'd play. Let's at least see Grabban and Hogan up front together.
Something tells me he'll be making no changes. Which will be the ultimate kick in the teeth.
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Wake the fuck up Villa, automatic promotion is disappearing fast.
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Yep no changes!
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Bacuna can fcuk off as well the stupid Mohican prick.
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jedi is slowing it down too much , get thor on to quicken it up and he can pop up with a goal
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We'll storm to victory in the second half.
and the Pope will be getting married at the Vatican at the weekend :)
In a service officiated by The Archbishop of Canterbury
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Yep no changes!
Let's just hope that was the team talk to end all team talks. Though I doubt it somehow.
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Cardiff winning tonight is a real demonstration of their character. Going to Brentford is hard. Going a goal down and having the ability to come back to lead at HT is impressive. Let’s see if we have anything in our tank. It will take a lot to come back from this.
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Looks like Adomah is injured again.
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Well looks the same crap at the moment. Whatever he said they are not doing it
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I think we are going to lose 3-0
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Not going to happen. Calling it.
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Looks like Davis coming on.
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No urgency.
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We’ve got no chance here.
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Taylor has no luck finding teammates
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i Keep refreshimng hoping for salvation..... :(
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And of course ref is crap as well 😊
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Come on Villa get one.
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How is that not a yellow on Jack ... ridiculous
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Fucking kick in the pants.
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Davis for Taylor
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3-5-2 for last half hour.
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Adomah is having a terrible game.
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Back 3 didn’t see that coming
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One of those nights. Something we just couldn’t afford.
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Taylor has no luck finding teammates is a bit shit
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15 precious wasted minutes since that change should have been made at half time.
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Our best hope is that Brentford get two against Cardiff and re-group.
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It's just not going to happen. Everyone's a winner except us - and that includes Fulham who aren't even playing.
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No chance of getting back into this now
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1-3 Cardiff
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Fucking pathetic.
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3-1 now
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Fucking hell ref get a grip! The timewasting pathetic
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One of those nights. Something we just couldn’t afford.
Cardiff 1-3.
Disaster of a night.
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Like Preston we underestimated the task in hand ........
Hugely disappointing but not all the blame lies with Bruce- the players-take the plaudits for stuffing Wolves but hell they deserve a rocket for not putting in a performance tonight.
It's from the sublime to the ridiculous
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Cardiff show character, we show fucking nothing.
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Bad if we don't win here.
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A real wet fart of a performance. Where's the fucking desire to grab hold of the game.
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What a disastrous night so far
Will be hard to come back from this and get automatic
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Bad if we don't win here.
I'd take a draw right now.
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Tonight has gone as badly as it possibly could do, short of a career-ending injury.
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Not that I’m blaming the red for our shit performance but he’s been awful this half
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Bollocks to character we’ve showed plenty of it this season. Forest, Blues, Wolves, Sheff Weds, Middlesbrough....bad night.
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Get Barny on.
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‘We’ve had a horrible one.’
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I think this result puts us out of the automatic race. I can't remember Villa winning too often when the weight of expectation (and general context of other games is taken into account) has been on us to win, so this performance is par for the course.
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Half an hour to avoid the play-offs. I'd forgotten just how lethargic and disjointed we could be... Which is a positive in a way, I suppose... Doesn't help though!
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Hogan for Grabban
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But it’s obvioualy not a lack of desire that’s the problem
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Are we really that poor that we can't afford to pay two people to do the audio and video commentary on AVTV? It's fucking annoying listening to this bloke rabbiting on.
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I blame a mate of mine who told me this morning that we were going up as Champions. I said it was more a case of who out of Cardiff or Villa blinked first would fail to get the runner's up spot. Little did I know...
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‘We’ve had a horrible one.’
'Obviously a bit tired having just played on Saturday'
I can already hear it all.
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Grealish is awful tonight. I’d take him off and get Onoha on
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Have to say QPR have pressed really well inside their half.
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Fucking HELL, Hourihane!
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Grealish is awful tonight. I’d take him off and get Onoha on
Nedum? Doesn’t he play for QPR?
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But it’s obvioualy not a lack of desire that’s the problem
It's a lack of pace in midfield from what I can see. sticking with Jedi today was a mistake and a few people pointed it out before kickoff. I like him but against a 3 who run about a lot he looks lost.
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The play off semi final dates are unconfirmed but likely to be:
Sat 12 May 17.30 6th vs 3rd
Sun 13 May 12.00 5th v 4th
Tue 15 May 19.45 3rd v 6th
Wed 16 May 19.45 4th v 5th
Sat 26 May 15.00 Final
Start making plans. 😕
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Looks like they gave it all on Saturday. I was half expecting tonight to be a bit flatter but I thought at worst we'd be labouring to break QPR down. I didn't expect this.
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We could play for a week and not score. We've been dreadful.
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We can play all night long but we will not score....
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We could play for a week and not score. We've been dreadful.
They are defending well as well to be fair
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We could play for a month and not score tonight. Any other confusing cliches?
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This is absolutley dreadful, Hang your heads in shame you lasy bastards!
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****** cockneys.
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Not creating anything.
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Also lookig at the stats they've totally dominated us in the air, so we should've got the ball on the deck and started moving it around at pace but we haven't got the players for that in the midfield.
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I put a curse on qpr, spit!
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Admittedly it wasn't a Saturday then but the play off final date is interesting 36 years on from THAT night, (26 May)
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Not creating anything.
Not quite true. They're creating misery for the fans.
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This is fucking ridiculous.
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Jedi was a terrible selection.
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Apart from Davis any other subs?
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Apart from Davis any other subs?
Hogan on for Grabban
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Hogan came on didn't he?
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This is fucking ridiculous.
But you just said we'd win...
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I think we can wave goodbye to autos if we lose here.
People that see my posts know that I'm a glass half full sort of fan.
I back the team and try to see the positives and where we can do well.
But a 7 point gap with 9 games to go, while doable, would be very, very unlikely.
A horrendous result if we lose.
Sort it out!!!
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We look like we've all but given up.
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QPR 'want it' more tonight.
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This is fucking ridiculous.
But you just said we'd win...
I said that in the first half. I expected us to bounce back.
Still flat.
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30228
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Hahaha manure 2 down.
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Impressive how unimpressive we can be after 2nd half saturday. Not even shocked
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This is fucking ridiculous.
But you just said we'd win...
We still might
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Attendance 30,228
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Wolves 3 up how the fcuk can it so go to shit in 72 hours.
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Bjarnasson coming on
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Hahaha manure 2 down.
Yep, there's always someone worse off than you...
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Dismal.
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This commentator's as much of a Pollyanna as Jack was.
And Jedinak moves as if he's wearing a suit of armour.
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Bjarnasson for Hourihane
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Bjarnasson coming on
Bruce, Far too late
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If he says we were tired after Saturday I think I might do some damage.
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Can’t seem to get any head of steam here
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Bjarnasson coming on
One hour after he should have done. For Hourihane.
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This commentator's as much of a Pollyanna as Jack was.
And Jedinak moves as if he's wearing a suit of armour.
Finally something makes me smile tonight.
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Three
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0-3. Playoffs.
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If any team looks likely to score it’s them
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Fair play QPR! Villa schooled.
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Fuck off 3-0
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I have no words.
I am sad.
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******. That is all.
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I don't believe it.
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If any team looks likely to score it’s them
Told you!
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Disgusting. Absolutely fucking disgusting.
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Shambles.
Ridiculous we've thrown away second just 72 hours after Wolves.
Only the Villa could do that.
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Fair play QPR! Villa schooled.
Written two seconds before they scored their 3rd.
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There'll be noone left to boo at the final whistle at this rate
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If any team looks likely to score it’s them
Told you!
After they scored.
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We took them lightly. Players thought they’d arrived after the weekend and we’ve been thoroughly fucked over. Fuck sake.
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Fucking shambles.
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I just hope this doesn’t have lasting damage. It’s fcukin shite.
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Will be able to shake off this awful result in the coming games?
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Well. Given the context of the game and scores elsewhere, that's probably the worst result of the season.
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It couldn’t have gone any worse today.
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We took them lightly. Players thought they’d arrived after the weekend and we’ve been thoroughly fucked over. Fuck sake.
We really should be better than this given all the experience in the dressing room.
Hopefully that's it for terrible performances this season but I fear we'll save one more for the play offs.
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This is the Wimbledon 1990 moment. Only a bigger disaster.
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No way top 2 now it’s the lottery of the play offs.
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Wonderfully villa-esque. A parody of ourselves. Dipshits. I'm off to bed.
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We’ll just have to win on Saturday now, and hope Cardiff drop points against Derby
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Molyneux will be awash with chuckles tonight - just how can you go from such a great performance to absolute dross inside 72 hours ?
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1-3 Chester.
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Fuckety boo.
Oh look 3-1.
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3-1
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One swallow doesn't make a summer and one wonderful win doesn't make Bruce Guardiola or Villa Man City
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Oh buckety duck
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Nice finish from Chester 1-3
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I guess we were always going to lose at some point. I have to hold my hands up to Cardiff out of respect that they are managing to keep getting results.
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Oh good... cue a second in the 94th minute.
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One back. Come on, let’s have another three
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And finally a head of steam! Too bloody late
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“Sunday 27 May: Villa Struggle To Keep Chester As Premier League Clubs Make Bids Following Play Off Defeat.”
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The writing was on the wall against Preston - there are no easy games in this division and you can't afford to take any game lightly -
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Calm down Jack, don’t get a fucking red for gods sake
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What a prick! The refs in this division really are bad
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I remember QPR did the same to us early in the 89-90 season, come on Villa bounce back at the weekend.
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Fuck off
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I remember QPR did the same to us early in the 89-90 season, come on Villa bounce back at the weekend.
The Francis hattrick game
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Bollocks. And now to get ready for work. In a bad mood. Fair play to QPR, though. The bastards deserved that.
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Is it over yet?