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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Ads on February 21, 2018, 09:14:00 AM
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Preston was one of the poorest performances of the season. Technically we were diabolical, attacking , we were awful and Chester apart, defensively we were dismal. Possession was recycled time and again and we had no means of attacking or breaking down a stubborn and hard working outfit.
Wednesday then should be the ideal opposition, as they're utter mince and ill equipped for the relegation battle they find themselves in.
Decimated by injuries, it should be a game to bounce back in. But then there is the small problem of Adomah, Grealish, Green and likely Snodgrass being out.
We cannot play three defesnive midfielders and expect to achieve anything; BB, Jedinak and Onomah were desperate against Preston and so was Hourihane. Snodgrass having a Tommy Johnson at half time explains why he was ineffectual.
The 4141 should be ultra attacking, but you've got to blend it right.
I would like to see us go 442, as we do not have the midfield to play with Hogan up top, so a meat and veg 442 is the way I would go.
Johnstone
Hutton
Terry
Chester
Axel
Grabban and Davis up top.
So who do we play in midfield? Elmo must play, as he has the curious ability to not pass the ball 5 yards, yet sling in an excellent cross. We need one player capable of sitting and I'd go with BB, as he at least has some legs and can pass.
Lansbury ought to have an opportunity, as he cannot be anymore anonymous than Hourihane has been for a long time now. So who fills in on the right? Its a big question and I think we've got to hope that Snoddy recovers in time, as then we'd have some width and a means of attacking.
Grealish being fit would change matters massively, but it looks like he is out.
Last night has to serve as a line in the sand for certain players and their combination within the team.
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I hope Snodgrass is OK, as apparently he was just ill, so have 4 days to get over whatever it is.
Assuming he is, and grealish and Albert are out, I'd go:
Johnstone
Tuanzebe Chester Terry Hutton
Snodgrass Lansbury Jedinak O'Hare
Davis Grabban
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0-2
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Poll added.
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I think that we have to accept that without key players, it's not going to be pretty.
I would also be surprised if Bruce went 442 away from home but I guess we can live in hope.
Going for draws away from home and conceding possession has repeatedly backfired on us. I'm dreading the play offs if we have to settle for them because of this.
I suspect it will be very similar to the last two teams we put out. The back 4 will likely remain the same. For me, this means Elmo & Snoddy are the wide men. Hogan will probably start (although I thought Grabban looked far more lively last night) Jedi will probably play in his usual role leaving 3 from Lansbury, BB and Hourihane. I currently have no preference on which 2 to pick as they have all been underwhelming recently.
Without Grealish, the 4141 is not effective and I'm not sure we'd win a midfield battle with 2 strikers not getting involved a bit further back when needed (as Grealish does). Not knowing enough about Grabban, I wonder whether he could play a free "Grealish" type of role behind Hogan as Kodjia has done in the past?
We are all looking for 3 points here - I suspect Bruce would take a point. For me, I think we needed 9 wins from 15. Two games later, we now need 9 from 13 and this away game is one of the more winnable aways. In the absence of Grealish, we need Grabban to start IMO. Relying on Hogan on his own is futile as he won't be getting the service.
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Gone for another draw.
Reasoning: I went for a draw v Fulham - we lost. I went for a narrow 2-1 win v Preston - we drew. I'd be inclined to say we'll win this one, but seems I've been overly optimistic across the board (hah) so put your money on a point folks.
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Grabban seemed to have a bit of unpredictability about him. He beat a man with a bit of skill, seemed quick and his dipping volley wasn't too far off, while his crossing was good.
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Draw. More lost ground on 2nd.
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Was it Grabban who put that cracking ball to davis at the end who should have at least hit the target?
that was quality
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Draw. More lost ground on 2nd.
That's what it will be if we approach the game showing the level of attacking ineptitude we have last night and with three defensive midfielders.
If he wants to persist with a 4141 and Snoddy is ill, then Grabban, Lansbury, Hourihane and Elmo with BB in behind would be better. At least there are three players who can play a ball forwards out of that lot.
Wednesday don't score a lot, they're negative and generally a bit shite. There is absolutely noway we can tolerate anything but a win.
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Sheff Weds have terrible injury problems, even worse than us.
Bannan, Kieran Lee, Steven Fletcher and Gary Hooper all injured, all regular starters for them. Think Jordan Rhodes was ill last night.
That said they did win at VP although a wonder goal after 40 seconds is a bit of a fluke.
It's a difficult one to call for me given our issues.
Sheff Weds haven't conceded many and have drawn a lot since their new manager came in. Their worst game by far under him was losing 3-1 to SHA with some comical defending.
0-0 but I hope for better as we need to get back to winning games very quickly.
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This was their team from last night:
Sheff Wed
28Wildsmith
46Venâncio
12Loovens
39Thorniley
2Hunt
3Jones
32Pelupessy
6Fox
44Stobbs
33Wallace
21Boyd
On reflection we should be beating that regardless of our issues. Four players in that team I've never heard of.
Ross Wallace and George Boyd as their front two gives you an indication of their injury issues aswell.
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Whatever happened to Forestieri? He caused us no end of grief last season.
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3 points nothing less. but do not play bjarnson jedi and onomah in the same team.
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If we were gaining victories based on what percentage of the opposition players I've heard of, we would finish the season with forty-six wins, and probably get about thirty wins on our way to romping next year's Premier League title.
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Whatever happened to Forestieri? He caused us no end of grief last season.
He fell out with Carvahal start of the season and also had a training ground fight so was in exile for a few weeks. In that time he picked up a season ending injury.
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If we were gaining victories based on what percentage of the opposition players I've heard of, we would finish the season with forty-six wins, and probably get about thirty wins on our way to romping next year's Premier League title.
Jordon Rhodes, Steven Fletcher, Gary Hooper, Barry Bannan and Kieran Lee, I'm sure you've heard of a few of those. All injured/unavailable for them atm and they're all regular players.
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Draw, not happy
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Whatever happened to Forestieri? He caused us no end of grief last season.
He fell out with Carvahal start of the season and also had a training ground fight so was in exile for a few weeks. In that time he picked up a season ending injury.
Bloody hell. Fair enough so.
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This is from a few weeks ago but still very relevant:
Jos Luhukay has revealed none of Sheffield Wednesday’s injured stars will return for Saturday’s visit of Cardiff City.
The owls are missing 10 first-team regulars with long-term injuries, including strikers Gary Hooper, Steven Fletcher and Fernando Forestieri, defenders Tom Lees and Joost van Aken, plus midfielders Sam Hutchinson, Kieran Lee and Barry Bannan.
Midfielder Almen Abdi faces a fortnight on the sidelines after picking up a muscle injury in training, while goalkeeper Keiren Westwood has been ordered to rest for “two or three weeks”. New Owls manager Luhukay inherited a squad full of crocked players, and says the club’s overworked medical team are putting in up to 12-hour shifts to treat the injured players.
They're also missing their first choice keeper Kieran Westwood who's one of the better ones at this level and one of the players I know nothing about Thorniley apparently picked up a bad injury at Millwall last night.
Word of warning though, that Cardiff game they drew 0-0. They also beat Derby 2-0.
They're tough to beat. I can see it being 0-0 if SB dosen't start putting out more attacking teams from the start.
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We need to find a way of playing without Jack and Albert otherwise we'll get more of the same as we saw last night, ie zero creativity. Play Grabban up top with Hogan, put Lansbury in for Onomah and Elmo at RB for Tuanzebe until he can last the 90.
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Their number 32 sounds like a serious illness.
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Their number 32 sounds like a serious illness.
He scored last night so trying to inflict the Pelupessy plague at the Den.
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This is from a few weeks ago but still very relevant:
Jos Luhukay has revealed none of Sheffield Wednesday’s injured stars will return for Saturday’s visit of Cardiff City.
The owls are missing 10 first-team regulars with long-term injuries, including strikers Gary Hooper, Steven Fletcher and Fernando Forestieri, defenders Tom Lees and Joost van Aken, plus midfielders Sam Hutchinson, Kieran Lee and Barry Bannan.
Midfielder Almen Abdi faces a fortnight on the sidelines after picking up a muscle injury in training, while goalkeeper Keiren Westwood has been ordered to rest for “two or three weeks”. New Owls manager Luhukay inherited a squad full of crocked players, and says the club’s overworked medical team are putting in up to 12-hour shifts to treat the injured players.
They're also missing their first choice keeper Kieran Westwood who's one of the better ones at this level and one of the players I know nothing about Thorniley apparently picked up a bad injury at Millwall last night.
Word of warning though, that Cardiff game they drew 0-0. They also beat Derby 2-0.
They're tough to beat. I can see it being 0-0 if SB dosen't start putting out more attacking teams from the start.
They drew with Sheffield United too.
Its a game where if get one goal, we will probably win it. But whether we're capable of scoring depends on whether we have the likes of Grabban, Angela, Elmo on the pitch and Onomah, Jedinak etc not.
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Their number 32 sounds like a serious illness.
He scored last night so trying to inflict the Pelupessy plague at the Den.
I thought Pelupessy was one of the later and poorer Roger Moore Bond films.
Wednesday are 16th in the league and 18th in the Championship home form table from the last ten games. W2 D4 L4. They were seven without a win at home until they beat Derby in their last home game. Add in their injuries and this this is one we should be capable of winning. Although my gut feeling is a 1-1 draw.
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Johnstone
McRoberto Carlos
Chester
Terry
Elmo (was not impressed with Axel)
Snoddy
Bjarney
Jedi
O'Hare
Grabban
Davis
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Snoddy
Bjarney
Jedi
O'Hare
You need to choose one between Jedi and Bjarney. If teams like to hoof it, play Jedi as he'll win almost every header. If teams can play a bit, like Wednesday (at least at Villa Park where the picked us off at ease), then we need the legs of Bjarney. Both is just too negative.
O'Hare deserves a chance to show what he can do though listening to Bruce, he sounds like he's betting the farm on experience.
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Snoddy
Bjarney
Jedi
O'Hare
You need to choose one between Jedi and Bjarney. If teams like to hoof it, play Jedi as he'll win almost every header. If teams can play a bit, like Wednesday (at least at Villa Park where the picked us off at ease), then we need the legs of Bjarney. Both is just too negative.
O'Hare deserves a chance to show what he can do though listening to Bruce, he sounds like he's betting the farm on experience.
Experience of what? He's choosing to play Tuanzebe and Onomah, neither of whom have been anywhere near a Championship dogfight, rather than starting the more experienced players that he himself bought.
He does give off the impression of someone who favours experience but at the moment none of his choices are making a huge deal of sense to me.
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The experience move would be to bring Taylor in at left back and switch Alan to the right. Elmo could then play on the wing rather than Airport-boy
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Draw. More lost ground on 2nd.
Not necessarily. Cardiff have to play Ipswich and Bristol City, Fulham have Bristol City and Wolves whilst Derby have Leeds and Reading! Who can predict who will get what!
Anyway I'm going for a Villa win! 2-1. UTV
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However we need the Aiport-boy in the team.
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Another must win!
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2-0 Sheffield Wednesday.
Bruce will pick a Lucky Dip XI with about as much strategy as me when I had to choose Chinese food from a menu in Chinese in a restaurant with only Chinese-speaking staff in Shenzen in China.
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2-2
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2-0 Sheffield Wednesday.
Bruce will pick a Lucky Dip XI with about as much strategy as me when I had to choose Chinese food from a menu in Chinese in a restaurant with only Chinese-speaking staff in Shenzen in China.
...when the only comprehensible thing on the menu is 'hot dog'.
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1-1
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I haven’t heard of most of the players in this league and struggle to work out who some of you are talking about in our team a lot of the time. The latest being ‘Airport Boy’, not a clue.
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I haven’t heard of most of the players in this league and struggle to work out who some of you are talking about in our team a lot of the time. The latest being ‘Airport Boy’, not a clue.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O%27Hare_International_Airport
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so are we are just a concorde boy away from take off?
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I haven’t heard of most of the players in this league and struggle to work out who some of you are talking about in our team a lot of the time. The latest being ‘Airport Boy’, not a clue.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O%27Hare_International_Airport
Gabby Agbonlacharlesdegaulle
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2-0 Sheffield Wednesday.
Bruce will pick a Lucky Dip XI with about as much strategy as me when I had to choose Chinese food from a menu in Chinese in a restaurant with only Chinese-speaking staff in Shenzen in China.
...when the only comprehensible thing on the menu is 'hot dog'.
That would be 热狗
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Ahmed Elmdon Mohamady.
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6-6. Paul Warhurst with all 12 goals.
On a more sensible note, 1-0 to us. Chester with the winner.
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Looking through their squad I was going to label them a team of journeymen.
Then I realised that applies to practically every team in this division, including us.
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The ‘slump’ continues. 2-0 Owls.
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Continuing the aviation theme
We run out of AV Gas and won't be Boeing back to second place - another draw 1-1
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Don’t think he’ll go 442 and don’t think he should. We never look right
Jedinak needs a rest
Hogan should not play unless jack is
Johnstone
Elmo (Tuanzebe) Chester Terry Hutton
Bjarnason Whelan
Snodgrass (O’Hare) lansbury Grabban
Davis
Subs: bunn Tuanzebe taylor Jedinak hourihane O’Hare hogan
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I haven’t heard of most of the players in this league and struggle to work out who some of you are talking about in our team a lot of the time. The latest being ‘Airport Boy’, not a clue.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O%27Hare_International_Airport
Crops up Midway through any thread where I mention Airport-boy
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Back to 1-0 away wins.
Utv.
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I'd like to see Lansbury back here too but why the hell couldn't he get on last night? Doesn't make sense looking at the half time subs that he wasn't given a go, even more so when you consider he takes set pieces as well. He must be struggling in training if the management would rather put square pegs in round holes than stick him in.
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He scored that belter at Leeds, looks far less twattish with his recent haircut and yet we still won't play him.
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Should be a routine win but if the pitch is bobbly, God help us.
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Recent results mean this is a bit of a must win.
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Our dip ,to continue with a draw 1 1 but ,we wil be unbeaten in 2 something to build on.
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I'd like to see Lansbury back here too but why the hell couldn't he get on last night? Doesn't make sense looking at the half time subs that he wasn't given a go, even more so when you consider he takes set pieces as well. He must be struggling in training if the management would rather put square pegs in round holes than stick him in.
I don't get the square pegs in round holes comment. Where would you have played him?
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I'd like to see Lansbury back here too but why the hell couldn't he get on last night? Doesn't make sense looking at the half time subs that he wasn't given a go, even more so when you consider he takes set pieces as well. He must be struggling in training if the management would rather put square pegs in round holes than stick him in.
I don't get the square pegs in round holes comment. Where would you have played him?
There aren’t ready made replacements for Albert and Jack, but sticking Onomah wide is the squarest of pegs in the roundest of holes. A player out of form who isn’t made for that position. Utter madness.
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We need to win so I'm going for 1-0 Villa win.
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Tuanzebe was another square peg, would like Elmo back. Sonoma should be dropped as he offers very little anywhere on the pitch, as a wide player he's hopeless.
That's Bruce's problem, he shoehorns players into a system rather than playing them in their correct positions.
Changes needed, 1-1 if not, and more ground lost on 2nd
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Bjork was another square peg. Get him back to defensive midfield where he's most effective. We'll certainly need his energy and there's little point playing Jedi there when teams play it on the floor. It really limits his heading ability.
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So BB back to holding. Snoddy to be fit and play right, Elmo to play left.
Lansbury to join Hourihane? Grabban up top?
That's if we want to keep 4141, but I guess Grabban for Onomah is more likely. Either way Lansbury or O'Hare has to come in for one of BB or Jedinak.
Still think 442 is most likely. At a guess I think he will go with;
Johnstone
Hutton
Terry
Chester
Elmo
Grabban
Hourihane
Jedinak
Snoddy
Davis
Hogan
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Don’t think he’ll go 442 and don’t think he should. We never look right
Jedinak needs a rest
Hogan should not play unless jack is
Johnstone
Elmo (Tuanzebe) Chester Terry Hutton
Bjarnason Whelan
Snodgrass (O’Hare) lansbury Grabban
Davis
Subs: bunn Tuanzebe taylor Jedinak hourihane O’Hare hogan
If we are going to play two in central midfield then I would consider putting Tuanzebe in there, as we desperately need some energy and mobility in that area. Whichever formation we play, it is going to look disjointed again.
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Whatever he decides, we cannot go into a game with a hardworking poacher having an ill Snoddy and an out of sorts Hourihane as his only means of supply, with three defensive midfielders.
Elmo, a well again Snoddy, a Lansbury or an O'Hare and Grabban exponentially increases our attacking dynamism compared to that first half side the other night.
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The most bizarre thing about the starting XI on Tuesday was that it was by-and-large the same XI that made no impression on the second half at Fulham. It was a perfect - and necessary - opportunity to freshen the side-up and actually use the advantage of our big squad, and he chose not to. Well, until we were behind, anyway.
I'd go with the 4-4-2 for Saturday, and I'd also bring Neil Taylor back. For all of Hutton's hard work and intent the side is so unbalanced with him at left-back. With Albert and Grealish playing he's not required to get forward as much, but without them it's a problem. How many times did he get into great crossing positions on Tuesday night? Granted he put in one decent cross in the first half, and one decent shot in the second, but I couldn't help but wonder what a left-footed player would have been able to produce from there.
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Neil Taylor is crap though.
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Grabban looked unorthodox. He actually looked a bit like Collymore with a shit beard, but I'd like him to feature.
I just get a sense that he will trust Hourihane again and go with Jedinak too, but put Snoddy and Grabban wide with Davis up top. As long as the intention is to feed that ball wide as quick as we can, make that pitch wide and get plenty of crosses in [Elmo at right back with Snoddy doubling up] then we have enough to win.
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I'd like to see Lansbury back here too but why the hell couldn't he get on last night? Doesn't make sense looking at the half time subs that he wasn't given a go, even more so when you consider he takes set pieces as well. He must be struggling in training if the management would rather put square pegs in round holes than stick him in.
I don't get the square pegs in round holes comment. Where would you have played him?
There aren’t ready made replacements for Albert and Jack, but sticking Onomah wide is the squarest of pegs in the roundest of holes. A player out of form who isn’t made for that position. Utter madness.
I get that but I can't see why he thinks playing Lansbury is going to solve the square pegs in round hole problem.
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If he played Lansbury and Hourihane centrally then we'd have been better off having Elmo and Grabban wide than Onomah. We were crying out for crosses.
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Can't see past 1-1...
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A scruffy but welcome 1-0 win; Grabban to start and bag the winner
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2-0 to Sheffield Wednesday same team will be put out, dire passing, not many created chances. 0-0 at half time and then it will go belly up in the second half with mistakes a plenty!
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I think this shows what a thankless task picking a team is.
Almost everyone has picked a different side and 20 odd players have been mentioned
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2-0 to Sheffield Wednesday same team will be put out, dire passing, not many created chances. 0-0 at half time and then it will go belly up in the second half with mistakes a plenty!
That sounds like a description of 95% of our away matches last season.
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we need a win Villa, so anything to nil will do.
UTV
The Doc
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I'd like to see Lansbury back here too but why the hell couldn't he get on last night? Doesn't make sense looking at the half time subs that he wasn't given a go, even more so when you consider he takes set pieces as well. He must be struggling in training if the management would rather put square pegs in round holes than stick him in.
I don't get the square pegs in round holes comment. Where would you have played him?
There aren’t ready made replacements for Albert and Jack, but sticking Onomah wide is the squarest of pegs in the roundest of holes. A player out of form who isn’t made for that position. Utter madness.
I get that but I can't see why he thinks playing Lansbury is going to solve the square pegs in round hole problem.
My thinking is that Lansbury comes on for either Hourihane or Jedinak and we have Bjarnason or Grabban playing wide left. Got to make more sense than having Onomah there.
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I'd like to see Lansbury back here too but why the hell couldn't he get on last night? Doesn't make sense looking at the half time subs that he wasn't given a go, even more so when you consider he takes set pieces as well. He must be struggling in training if the management would rather put square pegs in round holes than stick him in.
I don't get the square pegs in round holes comment. Where would you have played him?
There aren’t ready made replacements for Albert and Jack, but sticking Onomah wide is the squarest of pegs in the roundest of holes. A player out of form who isn’t made for that position. Utter madness.
I get that but I can't see why he thinks playing Lansbury is going to solve the square pegs in round hole problem.
My thinking is that Lansbury comes on for either Hourihane or Jedinak and we have Bjarnason or Grabban playing wide left. Got to make more sense than having Onomah there.
Bjarnason is as bad as Onomah out there. If Snodgrass is fit and on the right side then I guess it will be Grabban wide left.
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These play 3 at the back so 442 or 4141 should mince them if we're attacking enough. Ah Bruce?
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If reports are correct, Wednesday have 13 first team players and 4 u23's available for Saturday. Anymore injuries and they'll struggle to fill the bench. Sixteen players are currently unavailable.
Get it right and it could be a cricket score.
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Bouncebackability - Villa to win 2-1
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If reports are correct, Wednesday have 13 first team players and 4 u23's available for Saturday. Anymore injuries and they'll struggle to fill the bench. Sixteen players are currently unavailable.
Get it right and it could be a cricket score.
But unfortunately this is Villa we are talking about so the most likely outcome of that scenario is therefore an heroic against all the odds home win. Sigh.
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If reports are correct, Wednesday have 13 first team players and 4 u23's available for Saturday. Anymore injuries and they'll struggle to fill the bench. Sixteen players are currently unavailable.
Get it right and it could be a cricket score.
Unfortunately that could well be a Geoffrey Boycott after the first 6 overs type 0.
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Bruce on the OS
It looks like Keinan has twisted his ankle, so we'll have to see on him.
It's not great when Albert Adomah and Jack Grealish are already out. Robert Snodgrass is ill, too.
We didn't see anything beforehand but the more he ran about the more he was feeling sick.
All of a sudden injuries to our forward players are mounting up a little bit.
But that's where we are. We'll go from there. Let's hope they're speedy recoveries.
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If reports are correct, Wednesday have 13 first team players and 4 u23's available for Saturday. Anymore injuries and they'll struggle to fill the bench. Sixteen players are currently unavailable.
Get it right and it could be a cricket score.
But unfortunately this is Villa we are talking about so the most likely outcome of that scenario is therefore an heroic against all the odds home win. Sigh.
I know it seems like it but it hasn't always been like this. Some of us are old enough to remember a Villa side with attacking intent even away from home.
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If Snodgrass is ill then he will just have to battle through it and play.
No way we can have him out also.
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If reports are correct, Wednesday have 13 first team players and 4 u23's available for Saturday. Anymore injuries and they'll struggle to fill the bench. Sixteen players are currently unavailable.
Get it right and it could be a cricket score.
But unfortunately this is Villa we are talking about so the most likely outcome of that scenario is therefore an heroic against all the odds home win. Sigh.
I know it seems like it but it hasn't always been like this. Some of us are old enough to remember a Villa side with attacking intent even away from home.
you making me feel old now
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**** me ! What the hell is going on ?
We seem to get an awful lot of injuries - if Snoddy is still being sick you would think they would try and get some kind of diagnosis - I thought he was winded on Tuesday night - obviously not
Let's hope it's not appendicitis
The way things are shaping up Gabby could be in contention :(
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Bruce on the OS
It looks like Keinan has twisted his ankle, so we'll have to see on him.
It's not great when Albert Adomah and Jack Grealish are already out. Robert Snodgrass is ill, too.
We didn't see anything beforehand but the more he ran about the more he was feeling sick.
All of a sudden injuries to our forward players are mounting up a little bit.
But that's where we are. We'll go from there. Let's hope they're speedy recoveries.
Fucking hell, appreciate it's tough but not the most positive. It's going to be 9 at the back on Saturday it sounds like!
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Both RHM and O'Hare are not in the U23 squad tonight. Unless injured (both played monday) looks like they may be in the squad saturday
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Fingers crossed. I'd throw O'Hare straight in in the advanced role.
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If O'Hare is not even in the squad given how well he played midweek in the rout of Wolves, he may as well retire now.
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That's a good sign if they're both available. Would suggest a couple of bench options will step up.
If the defence stays as is, then with the injuries we have Elmo and Grabban are likely to come in out wide. I'd hope Lansbury would replace one of Jedinak or BB if he persists with Hourihane. Then at least RHM and O'Hare are options off the bench.
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I’m taking my boots.
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Finally, a chance for Hepburn.
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I don’t think O’Hare and RHM are guaranteed to be involved. I imagine it will depend on the fitness of Snodgrass, O’Hare, Elmo
I imagine there’s a presser this morning so we should know more then.
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It's written in the stars that the goalkeeper who kept chucking the ball in against Small Heath will play like Lev Yashin tomorrow. That always seems to be the way of things for us.
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After the buoyancy of beating the Blues in a pretty decent performance he had to make a decision on changing the team due to Albert and jack being out.
He got it wrong by leaving Jedinak in there when clearly they were going to play fast and wide and would expose him - wrong team and tactics
Preston - kept basically the same side (that failed) and again Jedinak and Hourihanne especially were anonymous - wrong team and tactics
Steve - you cannot guarantee how players will perform on the pitch once there - you can only make changes during the game. But FFS at least play the right players in the first place and that means playing them in their correct positions. You have finally found a formula that works so go like for like on any replacements
Lose tomorrow and I am sorry but all the hard work to win 7 on the bounce will be undone by piss poor team selection and tactics.
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Tuanzebe is definitely out - hamstring problem. Grabban is a doubt with a sore groin. We don't have much injury luck, do we?
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Question of whether Taylor comes in or Elmo goes to right back.
I think Grabban will play, hopefully Snoddy too.
They're decimated. I watched their managers press conference and it looks like they'll have a few kids playing.
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Just listened to Bruce's press conference.
Axel - out tomorrow, hamstring.
Grabban - doubtful, groin strain.
Grealish - out.
Adomah - out.
Davis - doubtful, twisted ankle.
Snodgrass - should be okay.
FFS, when will it end.
On this basis I would go with;
Johnstone
Taylor
Terry
Chester
Hutton
BB
Elmo
Hourihane
Lansbury
Snoddy
Hogan
Should Grabban be fit, then I'd play him instead of Elmo, with Elmo at right back.
RHM and O'Hare will be our only attacking options with the injuries we have.
I still feel that is a well balanced and strong side.
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With what's available and accepting Bruce won't want to start Airport or the Russian, that's a decent team.
However, Steve is sure to try to shoehorn Onomah in there
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All these injuries Snodgrass apart seem to have occurred during training as there didn't seem any evidence of them during the previous games. What the hell are they doing?
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Adomah and Grealish both got injured against the Noses.
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With what's available and accepting Bruce won't want to start Airport or the Russian, that's a decent team.
However, Steve is sure to try to shoehorn Onomah in there
Oh, he will. No doubt about it.
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41221 for me tomorrow
Johnstone
Elmo, Chester, Terry, Hutton
Thor
Lansbury, Hourihane
Snodgrass Ohare
Hogan
Surely given their terrible injuries then this side can get the right result. UTV
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Up shit creek with injuries my only hope is Wednesday have bigger thoughts elsewhere eg their cup replay. At the moment though 1-0 to Wednesday sorry
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Fuck me me! With all our injury woes I'm now expecting to see Gabriarl Agbonlagerfeld on the bench.
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Up shit creek with injuries my only hope is Wednesday have bigger thoughts elsewhere eg their cup replay. At the moment though 1-0 to Wednesday sorry
Wednesday have 13 players out.
The side we're likely to put out will be much stronger than anything they can field. There is no excuse not to beat them.
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Don't overly get why people are stressing about the latest injury update
1) Jack and Adomah were never going to be ready until QPR
2) Tuanzabe wouldnt have started tomorrow after midweek anyway
3) Grabban i expect will be fit as will Snodgrass
4) Davis would have been a sub option and still expect him to be fit too.
We have enough to beat them tomorrow if we set up right
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However we set up we will lack creativity and pace
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Just listened to Bruce's press conference.
Axel - out tomorrow, hamstring.
Grabban - doubtful, groin strain.
Grealish - out.
Adomah - out.
Davis - doubtful, twisted ankle.
Snodgrass - should be okay.
FFS, when will it end.
On this basis I would go with;
Johnstone
Taylor
Terry
Chester
Hutton
BB
Elmo
Hourihane
Lansbury
Snoddy
Hogan
Should Grabban be fit, then I'd play him instead of Elmo, with Elmo at right back.
RHM and O'Hare will be our only attacking options with the injuries we have.
I still feel that is a well balanced and strong side.
I don't see what the point would be in bringing Taylor back in if Elmo is fit. It makes more sense to me to keep the back four the same as it was during the good run. Elmo and Snodders seem to give us a decent right side and Hutton has been doing ok on the left.
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Yes looking like Grabban should be ok. Him and Snoddy wide let's Elmo fill in at right back.
Just hoping he's brave and drops one of Jedinak and BB.
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I’d play Grabban up front
We need a target 🎯
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I haven’t heard of most of the players in this league and struggle to work out who some of you are talking about in our team a lot of the time. The latest being ‘Airport Boy’, not a clue.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O%27Hare_International_Airport
... when everyone knows his correct nickname should be Bucky.
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I wouldn't call dropping one of Jedi or BB 'brave'. Ambitious, most certainly. I think we'll need Bjork's legs more than Jedi's heading power. It's a shame we can't put two strikers up front as Wednesday will likely play 3 at the back. Whoever we put out I agree with you completely Ads, there is no excuse not to beat them.
3-0 Villa. All goals from corners just to shut me up.
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Id start IAn Taylor in midfield myself
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Johnstone
Elmo
JT
Chester
Cafu
Thor
Snodgrass
Lansbury
Houriane ( very poor lately thou)
Grabbon
Hogan
O'Hare on bench
Jedi
Taylor
Davies
Axel if fit
Whelan
Gabby ( I know )
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Would rather see RHM on the bench than Gabby.
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Guess the post match excuses:
I'm going with
1. Injuries
2. Poor playing surface
3. Despite being decimated by injuries Sheffield have a strong squad
4. I was told we were playing Wednesday and got confused when I was picked up by Colin Calderwood on Saturday
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Guess the post match excuses:
I'm going with
1. Injuries
2. Poor playing surface
3. Despite being decimated by injuries Sheffield have a strong squad
4. I was told we were playing Wednesday and got confused when I was picked up by Colin Calderwood on Saturday
I admire your confidence. Nothing like going into a game brimming with confidence.
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Would rather see RHM on the bench than Gabby.
who is RHM?
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Guess the post match excuses:
I'm going with
1. Injuries
2. Poor playing surface
3. Despite being decimated by injuries Sheffield have a strong squad
4. I was told we were playing Wednesday and got confused when I was picked up by Colin Calderwood on Saturday
I admire your confidence. Nothing like going into a game brimming with confidence.
I'm a Brummie .........my glass is always half empty :)
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Would rather see RHM on the bench than Gabby.
who is RHM?
Really Hard Midfielder.
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Guess the post match excuses:
I'm going with
1. Injuries
2. Poor playing surface
3. Despite being decimated by injuries Sheffield have a strong squad
4. I was told we were playing Wednesday and got confused when I was picked up by Colin Calderwood on Saturday
I admire your confidence. Nothing like going into a game brimming with confidence.
I'm a Brummie .........my glass is always half empty :)
Well hopefully You'll be pleasantly surprised come 5 o clock tomorrow.......and even more so in May.
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Guess the post match excuses:
I'm going with
1. Injuries
2. Poor playing surface
3. Despite being decimated by injuries Sheffield have a strong squad
4. I was told we were playing Wednesday and got confused when I was picked up by Colin Calderwood on Saturday
I admire your confidence. Nothing like going into a game brimming with confidence.
I'm a Brummie .........my glass is always half empty :)
Well hopefully You'll be pleasantly surprised come 5 o clock tomorrow.......and even more so in May.
hopefully my glass will be overflowing - cheers Brassneck - have a great weekend :)
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Would rather see RHM on the bench than Gabby.
who is RHM?
Really Hard Midfielder.
Ronaldo
Hoeness
Messi
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We need to win but i fear Bruce will approach the game as he often does away games ,going not to lose rather than win. Hope i am wrong but i can't see past a draw
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Guess the post match excuses:
I'm going with
1. Injuries
2. Poor playing surface
3. Despite being decimated by injuries Sheffield have a strong squad
4. I was told we were playing Wednesday and got confused when I was picked up by Colin Calderwood on Saturday
I admire your confidence. Nothing like going into a game brimming with confidence.
I'm a Brummie .........my glass is always half empty :)
Well hopefully You'll be pleasantly surprised come 5 o clock tomorrow.......and even more so in May.
hopefully my glass will be overflowing - cheers Brassneck - have a great weekend :)
Same to you mate and here's to both of our glasses overflowing on Saturday night.
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Would rather see RHM on the bench than Gabby.
who is RHM?
Really Hard Midfielder.
The Russian
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RHM = Russian Hard Man ........Putin?
Good in defence and in the air :)
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Would rather see RHM on the bench than Gabby.
who is RHM?
Really Hard Midfielder.
Ronaldo
Hoeness
Messi
Tax Evader XI's front three?
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Would rather see RHM on the bench than Gabby.
who is RHM?
Really Hard Midfielder.
Ronaldo
Hoeness
Messi
Tax Evader XI's front three?
I wonder who their manager would be, and whether he would bring his dog to work...
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Would rather see RHM on the bench than Gabby.
who is RHM?
Really Hard Midfielder.
Ronaldo
Hoeness
Messi
Tax Evader XI's front three?
I wonder who their manager would be, and whether he would bring his dog to work...
He'd be a top, top manager. For sure.
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Changing my draw prediction to a 2-0 defeat. We'll set up not to lose and it will go tits up. Brucie baby will blame injuries, forgetting that Wednesday have got a longer injury list than us.
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RHM = Russian Hard Man ........Putin?
Good in defence and in the air :)
Great first touch, for a big dwarf.
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Changing my draw prediction to a 2-0 defeat. We'll set up not to lose and it will go tits up. Brucie baby will blame injuries, forgetting that Wednesday have got a longer injury list than us.
And when that happens, I for one will blame the fans.
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Changing my draw prediction to a 2-0 defeat. We'll set up not to lose and it will go tits up. Brucie baby will blame injuries, forgetting that Wednesday have got a longer injury list than us.
And when that happens, I for one will blame the fans.
Ok sweetheart :-*
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The only time I went to Sheffield Wednesday I got punched in the stomach outside by one of their fans who was sulking that we'd beaten them. Hopefully we tank them today just to ruin his weekend.
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Would rather see RHM on the bench than Gabby.
of course If hes fit
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I can't say I'm feeling particularly confident about this afternoon TBH. Our injury list continues to jeopardise automatic promotion ambitions and Bruce's uber-cautious approach thwarts any potential attacking capabilities. I realise the Wendy's have plenty of player issues themselves, so I'm resigning myself to a turgid affair with chances at a premium. I'd be surprised to see either net rustle, so any such occurrence will probably be very significant. Consequently my money is on a goalless draw, but I still remain hopeful of us sneakin' it with a moment of inspiration &/or good fortune.
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I think the results to injury graph is an inverted bell curve. When we're full strength (it must have happened once...) or close to it, we're a decent team at this level and can beat most teams (as shown Jan-early Feb). A few injuries and we tend to rely on keeping things tight and nullifying the opposition, with the aim to sneak a goal in the small period were on top. This tends to see results dip dramatically. Then we have times when we have so many injuries, we have to rely on kids and throw caution to the wind a bit more (Norwich at home for example) and results pick up again. I think we've reached that point now so I'm incredibly confident of a win and am off to a popular gambling website to place a whole £2 on us. Get in now before this theory spreads and the odds tumble.
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With you on that boozey. Today is going going to be free flowing fare with goals galore. 1st time to Hillsborough so looking forward to it
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The one concern I have if possible O'Hare starts today is his physical side and that if he is ready. Technically he's fine and can move around well between the lines I'm fact very well good movement is impressive off the ball however this is championship football and not academy so that is only concern. Obviously soon see if he's starting but will be involved so that good measure and I rooting for him but can't expect upon too much there young shoulders. The other thing is that injury list grossly annoying. Up the villa like another 1 nil away win.
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Yet Barry Bannan has a pretty good career for them.
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Glenn Whealan back today then.
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Glenn Whealan back today then.
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Oh dear Whelan and Onomah that's 2 passengers
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Awful line up. Totally safety first but probably not actually that safe
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I think the results to injury graph is an inverted bell curve. When we're full strength (it must have happened once...) or close to it, we're a decent team at this level and can beat most teams (as shown Jan-early Feb). A few injuries and we tend to rely on keeping things tight and nullifying the opposition, with the aim to sneak a goal in the small period were on top. This tends to see results dip dramatically. Then we have times when we have so many injuries, we have to rely on kids and throw caution to the wind a bit more (Norwich at home for example) and results pick up again. I think we've reached that point now so I'm incredibly confident of a win and am off to a popular gambling website to place a whole £2 on us. Get in now before this theory spreads and the odds tumble.
I hearby retract this optimism. Apologies.
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If we fuck this up , no more sympathy for Bruce. His selections smack of scaredy-cat mentality.