Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: dave.woodhall on February 11, 2018, 11:23:30 PM
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http://thebirminghampress.com/2018/02/just-another-sunday/
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A sure sign of success when we are attracting plastic tourists to a game vs the Noses. Hold on to your selfie sticks...
Nicely done Dave
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Perfectly described.
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Good point about Jedinak. We've looked a little shaky at the back in the past couple of weeks but he shored it up for us today. I'd like to see our record when he's played in that position since he's been here.
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As usual a good article Dave, bang on about Jedinak as the ball seemed to just come to him yesterday although as much of that was due to his effort than anything else.
Very good team performance and always means that bit more when you know on a personal level it’s been a shit week for the manager.
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Good article (as usual) Dave.
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Done.
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On arriving near the ground yesterday, the first voices I heard were two people chatting in German whilst walking up Nelson Road
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A good summary of a thoroughly satisfying day.
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Great read.
The not worrying anymore about throwing away a lead for the first time seemingly this century is an astute observation.
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Another great read Dave.
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I admire your restraint Mr W, it must be difficult writing up a match summary for Bham Press when one side of the same city has outclassed the other side on and off the pitch to such a monumental extent.
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Maybe football people from across Europe still want to witness a real Derby game that's not been totally sanitsed by Sky and the prawn sandwich brigade. There's a genuine, earthy, realness for Villa v Blose that makes it special IMO.
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Another great read Dave.
Apologies I know I have commented but this is what o wanted to say. Thanks Daz.
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Maybe football people from across Europe still want to witness a real Derby game that's not been totally sanitsed by Sky and the prawn sandwich brigade. There's a genuine, earthy, realness for Villa v Blose that makes it special IMO.
There is and I don't want sanitisation
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Can't wait to read your counterpart's article
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Can't wait to read your counterpart's article
In his defence the few times I've read them they've been surprisingly pretty level headed and fair.
Good article Dave it obviously couldn't be written Sunday lunch this week (timings and all that) but thankfully the team stepped up as a replacement to brighten the day. We need to hold on to an automatic spot now and as has been said if the team give the fans something to turn up for the fans will respond in numbers (whatever accents they possess). Our average attendances should improve now and take us from 2nd in the division currently (before Sunday) above Leeds.
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Great piece and especially the part about Grealish. I was worried that they would target him for treatment ranging from verbal rants to physical assault to wind him up and lose his effectiveness, but he just got up (apart from when that lump of shit trod on him) smiled and went at them again.
His wanting the ball when surrounded by opposing players and then with a little shimmy is away from them is very George Bestesque and he has now added sheer graft to his game - fair play to the lad.
The horrible injury at the start of the season may, in hindsight, be a blessing as his gym work has meant he has a strength to his game now as well.
The games cannot come quick enough
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Maybe football people from across Europe still want to witness a real Derby game that's not been totally sanitsed by Sky and the prawn sandwich brigade. There's a genuine, earthy, realness for Villa v Blose that makes it special IMO.
Mr Woodhall spotted me before the game and was accompanied by a Belgian fella who is researching derby games across the globe. I made the comment that it ain't what it used to be - when I was a teen the derby was more intense because we would each take 10k away fans - but I was chuffed it was a really good atmosphere. Sanitised it wasn't.
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A happy Villa Park equals a happy planet. Great article Mr W. I so desperately want us to be up there with those so called big clubs.
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Great goal by Hourihane but that doesn't excuse him for being a passenger for most of the game, whether it is the role he's playing or the position not sure but I want the very good player he was at his previous club.
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Was he a passenger because he didn't play well, or was it down to the role he was asked to play? When played in a more attacking role he does well, but I don't think he's always asked to do that and it shows in his influence on the pitch. He's a solid and very reliable performer on the whole.
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Maybe football people from across Europe still want to witness a real Derby game that's not been totally sanitsed by Sky and the prawn sandwich brigade. There's a genuine, earthy, realness for Villa v Blose that makes it special IMO.
Yes, atmosphere tourists like what Sevilla get at their matches ,or Dortmund. They are welcome :)
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Was he a passenger because he didn't play well, or was it down to the role he was asked to play? When played in a more attacking role he does well, but I don't think he's always asked to do that and it shows in his influence on the pitch. He's a solid and very reliable performer on the whole.
My problem with Houlihane on Sunday was not the role we was asked to play but the fact that we dwelled on the ball alot and seemed to get caught in possession. He also was the only Villa player to get bullied off the ball by the Noses all afternoon.
Great strike for the goal though so those of us that slagged him on the match thread (which absolutely included me) all ended up with egg of our faces which under the circumstances was fine by me.
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Our derbies are old time football events. The game stripped of marketing, glamour, showbiz and sofa friendliness. The way it should be. Put a Foster Bros flat cap on the heads of those Villa fans and a Woodbine in their mouths and they could have been roaring on Pongo Waring or Archie Hunter.
Good piece Mr Woodhall.
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Maybe football people from across Europe still want to witness a real Derby game that's not been totally sanitsed by Sky and the prawn sandwich brigade. There's a genuine, earthy, realness for Villa v Blose that makes it special IMO.
Mr Woodhall spotted me before the game and was accompanied by a Belgian fella who is researching derby games across the globe. I made the comment that it ain't what it used to be - when I was a teen the derby was more intense because we would each take 10k away fans - but I was chuffed it was a really good atmosphere. Sanitised it wasn't.
He was gushing about it afterwards in the Bartons. Nice chap too.
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Talking of sanitised. Lots of Blues fans online saying they were glad that they were Blues fans because of the embarrassing flags (who do we think we are Crystal Palace?), Oasis Manc karaoke etc There was obviously no mention of those happy clapper things they were issued with at their place last time. To be fair I'd happily lose the flags at the start (although I wouldn't mind an eagle or rather a big lion on the pitch to scare the bejesus out of the opposition players, but animal welfare and all that).
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Can't wait to read your counterpart's article
Any chance of a link to this article? I'm having difficulty finding it.
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Their side of the story.
http://thebirminghampress.com/2018/02/derby-day-disappointment/
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Magic. Thank you.
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Maybe football people from across Europe still want to witness a real Derby game that's not been totally sanitsed by Sky and the prawn sandwich brigade. There's a genuine, earthy, realness for Villa v Blose that makes it special IMO.
Mr Woodhall spotted me before the game and was accompanied by a Belgian fella who is researching derby games across the globe. I made the comment that it ain't what it used to be - when I was a teen the derby was more intense because we would each take 10k away fans - but I was chuffed it was a really good atmosphere. Sanitised it wasn't.
Glad you went and they won for you mate. How I would have loved to have joined you, and taken Sonoko to a derby. But it was still great here in Tokyo, loads of Villa in a pub we watched the game in, and not a single Bluenose. Happy days. Tokyo is definitely ours :)
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Their side of the story.
http://thebirminghampress.com/2018/02/derby-day-disappointment/
He couldn't quite manage to say that the significantly better team won could he?
Instead going for the millions we spent compared to them (how many players did bagpuss bring in that were better than ours???)
To be fair most noses I have spoken to have been very honest about the defeat and conceded that we out played but (and this really hurt them) clearly out fought them and wanted it more. To be fair all they have ever had is "fight" so when we even beat them at that it cannot be compared to how much money we spent on better players
It was about desire and we excelled at having it
UTV
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Didn’t we spend just £2 million on two players, Elmo and Whelan, in the summer while Harry spent £18 million?
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Didn’t we spend just £2 million on two players, Elmo and Whelan, in the summer while Harry spent £18 million?
Don't let facts get in the way of a nose's moronic ramblings :)
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Their side of the story.
http://thebirminghampress.com/2018/02/derby-day-disappointment/
He couldn't quite manage to say that the significantly better team won could he?
Instead going for the millions we spent compared to them (how many players did bagpuss bring in that were better than ours???)
To be fair most noses I have spoken to have been very honest about the defeat and conceded that we out played but (and this really hurt them) clearly out fought them and wanted it more. To be fair all they have ever had is "fight" so when we even beat them at that it cannot be compared to how much money we spent on better players
It was about desire and we excelled at having it
UTV
I recall one Birmingham Mail article in the summer saying that they had got a better deal getting Marc Roberts than we had getting John Terry. Not really worked out that way has it?
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Their side of the story.
http://thebirminghampress.com/2018/02/derby-day-disappointment/
Had to smirk at his final sentence, pretty clever I’ll give him that. Fair do’s to him for concentrating on his own club rather than ours too, something the rest of them might like to take his lead on, we live in hope.
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Maybe football people from across Europe still want to witness a real Derby game that's not been totally sanitsed by Sky and the prawn sandwich brigade. There's a genuine, earthy, realness for Villa v Blose that makes it special IMO.
Mr Woodhall spotted me before the game and was accompanied by a Belgian fella who is researching derby games across the globe. I made the comment that it ain't what it used to be - when I was a teen the derby was more intense because we would each take 10k away fans - but I was chuffed it was a really good atmosphere. Sanitised it wasn't.
Glad you went and they won for you mate. How I would have loved to have joined you, and taken Sonoko to a derby. But it was still great here in Tokyo, loads of Villa in a pub we watched the game in, and not a single Bluenose. Happy days. Tokyo is definitely ours :)
It was the same in Shanghai Nik. I saw 3 derbies there from 2009-2011 and only came across one Bluenose.
Sunday was a fine day :)
Hope to see you in Asia this year.....
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Maybe football people from across Europe still want to witness a real Derby game that's not been totally sanitsed by Sky and the prawn sandwich brigade. There's a genuine, earthy, realness for Villa v Blose that makes it special IMO.
Mr Woodhall spotted me before the game and was accompanied by a Belgian fella who is researching derby games across the globe. I made the comment that it ain't what it used to be - when I was a teen the derby was more intense because we would each take 10k away fans - but I was chuffed it was a really good atmosphere. Sanitised it wasn't.
Glad you went and they won for you mate. How I would have loved to have joined you, and taken Sonoko to a derby. But it was still great here in Tokyo, loads of Villa in a pub we watched the game in, and not a single Bluenose. Happy days. Tokyo is definitely ours :)
It was the same in Shanghai Nik. I saw 3 derbies there from 2009-2011 and only came across one Bluenose.
Sunday was a fine day :)
Hope to see you in Asia this year.....
Yes, me too mate. We can toast promotion, hopefully.
If believing that horrid lot was anything to go by, didn't everyone in China support Blues? Haha. I watched the away game in 2011 in Windows at Jingan-Collins got the equaliser, and we pretty much deserved to win it. There were a good 10-15 Villa fans in there that day, behaving pretty badly aswell. A couple of Dutch mates I was with believed it to be 'standard Brits abroad behaviour'.
Looking forward to seeing you soon, mate.
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Their side of the story.
http://thebirminghampress.com/2018/02/derby-day-disappointment/
Had to smirk at his final sentence, pretty clever I’ll give him that. Fair do’s to him for concentrating on his own club rather than ours too, something the rest of them might like to take his lead on, we live in hope.
It was a rather short and (not so) sweet report. I suspect he just wanted to get it done and over with.
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Another good read Dave - spot on.
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Their side of the story.
http://thebirminghampress.com/2018/02/derby-day-disappointment/
I wish they had started Gardner too, so he could have got an absolute chasing and had the piss ripped out of him.
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Talking of sanitised. Lots of Blues fans online saying they were glad that they were Blues fans because of the embarrassing flags (who do we think we are Crystal Palace?), Oasis Manc karaoke etc There was obviously no mention of those happy clapper things they were issued with at their place last time. To be fair I'd happily lose the flags at the start (although I wouldn't mind an eagle or rather a big lion on the pitch to scare the bejesus out of the opposition players, but animal welfare and all that).
Could you imagine the meeting at the council trying to get the safety certificate renewed?!
"An actual, live lion you say?" ;D
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Talking of sanitised. Lots of Blues fans online saying they were glad that they were Blues fans because of the embarrassing flags (who do we think we are Crystal Palace?), Oasis Manc karaoke etc There was obviously no mention of those happy clapper things they were issued with at their place last time. To be fair I'd happily lose the flags at the start (although I wouldn't mind an eagle or rather a big lion on the pitch to scare the bejesus out of the opposition players, but animal welfare and all that).
Could you imagine the meeting at the council trying to get the safety certificate renewed?!
"An actual, live lion you say?" ;D
My eyesight isn’t what is was but we’ve had real lions down there for years. Think they have got to used to people, don’t seem to scare people at all. Even got pet names, Hercules and something.
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Talking of sanitised. Lots of Blues fans online saying they were glad that they were Blues fans because of the embarrassing flags (who do we think we are Crystal Palace?), Oasis Manc karaoke etc There was obviously no mention of those happy clapper things they were issued with at their place last time. To be fair I'd happily lose the flags at the start (although I wouldn't mind an eagle or rather a big lion on the pitch to scare the bejesus out of the opposition players, but animal welfare and all that).
Could you imagine the meeting at the council trying to get the safety certificate renewed?!
"An actual, live lion you say?" ;D
My eyesight isn’t what is was but we’ve had real lions down there for years. Think they have got to used to people, don’t seem to scare people at all. Even got pet names, Hercules and something.
Hercules, Bella and Chip. At one family fun day a number of years back 'Bella' asked my wife for a sip of her lager and confessed to to my wife that she was pissed.
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Talking of sanitised. Lots of Blues fans online saying they were glad that they were Blues fans because of the embarrassing flags (who do we think we are Crystal Palace?), Oasis Manc karaoke etc There was obviously no mention of those happy clapper things they were issued with at their place last time. To be fair I'd happily lose the flags at the start (although I wouldn't mind an eagle or rather a big lion on the pitch to scare the bejesus out of the opposition players, but animal welfare and all that).
Could you imagine the meeting at the council trying to get the safety certificate renewed?!
"An actual, live lion you say?" ;D
My eyesight isn’t what is was but we’ve had real lions down there for years. Think they have got to used to people, don’t seem to scare people at all. Even got pet names, Hercules and something.
Hercules, Bella and Chip. At one family fun day a number of years back 'Bella' asked my wife for a sip of her lager and confessed to to my wife that she was pissed.
Was it Les Dawson's daughter in the costume?
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Talking of sanitised. Lots of Blues fans online saying they were glad that they were Blues fans because of the embarrassing flags (who do we think we are Crystal Palace?), Oasis Manc karaoke etc There was obviously no mention of those happy clapper things they were issued with at their place last time. To be fair I'd happily lose the flags at the start (although I wouldn't mind an eagle or rather a big lion on the pitch to scare the bejesus out of the opposition players, but animal welfare and all that).
Could you imagine the meeting at the council trying to get the safety certificate renewed?!
"An actual, live lion you say?" ;D
My eyesight isn’t what is was but we’ve had real lions down there for years. Think they have got to used to people, don’t seem to scare people at all. Even got pet names, Hercules and something.
Hercules, Bella and Chip. At one family fun day a number of years back 'Bella' asked my wife for a sip of her lager and confessed to to my wife that she was pissed.
Talking of sanitised. Lots of Blues fans online saying they were glad that they were Blues fans because of the embarrassing flags (who do we think we are Crystal Palace?), Oasis Manc karaoke etc There was obviously no mention of those happy clapper things they were issued with at their place last time. To be fair I'd happily lose the flags at the start (although I wouldn't mind an eagle or rather a big lion on the pitch to scare the bejesus out of the opposition players, but animal welfare and all that).
Could you imagine the meeting at the council trying to get the safety certificate renewed?!
"An actual, live lion you say?" ;D
"Well as Crystal Palace have an actual (formerly labeled psychotic) bald eagle M'laud we didn't think it would be a problem?"
Nice back story about Kayla the bald eagle here and an idiotic Charlton fan for anyone interested - old story but I'd never seen it before today http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-39257227
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My only happy memory of Roy Keane is his sheepish expression when Bella gave him a hug.
(http://thumb.ibb.co/io8GO7/E65_CFB41_24_F9_46_CE_A1_E3_0_C35_C238685_E.jpg) (http://ibb.co/io8GO7)
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My only happy memory of Roy Keane is his sheepish expression when Bella gave him a hug.
(http://thumb.ibb.co/io8GO7/E65_CFB41_24_F9_46_CE_A1_E3_0_C35_C238685_E.jpg) (http://ibb.co/io8GO7)
Hahaha! No wonder drinks on the job.