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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: spk on February 05, 2018, 06:04:18 PM
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Just heard a rumour that we are buying Lyngby BK in Denmark.Have any of the Danish H and V readers heard anything locally ?
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Just heard a rumour that we are buying Lyngby BK in Denmark.Have any of the Danish H and V readers heard anything locally ?
Hope he's a forward.
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Is he any good up front?
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Maybe I'm misunderstanding the whole basis of FFP, as I haven't inspected the ground rules for same, but surely - *surely* - if we're not allowed to buy players or renew expensive contracts then we shouldn't be looking to purchase struggling clubs/entities overseas.
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It does seem far fetched Ill admit.Lyngby are a mid sized (By Danish standards) ,ever present in the top league club.
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Maybe I'm misunderstanding the whole basis of FFP, as I haven't inspected the ground rules for same, but surely - *surely* - if we're not allowed to buy players or renew expensive contracts then we shouldn't be looking to purchase struggling clubs/entities overseas.
Reflecting more on this I'm sure the loophole is that 'we' aren't formally interested in purchasing anyone, it will be under RECON group and they can do what they like within the scope of other parameters/regulations, but still being reported that it's Aston Villa doing the purchasing. If true, very strange.
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It does seem far fetched Ill admit.Lyngby are a mid sized (By Danish standards) ,ever present in the top league club.
They are in financial trouble so this might be a way to help resolve that.
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Lyngby are massively in the shit financially. You could probably buy them for a nominal fee if you took on the debts as a going concern. The media here say it's Brighton.
Just checked another media source that says it's not Brighton, but another unnamed PL club.
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Thanks Villa in Denmark,seems there is nothing in it then.
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Just heard a rumour that we are buying Lyngby BK in Denmark.Have any of the Danish H and V readers heard anything locally ?
Hope he's a forward.
He is a keeper. It was a typo. We are actually buying 'Lyngby GK'.
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http://sportwitness.co.uk/aston-villa-make-huge-window-signing-another-club/
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I've found an article on BT (equivalent to The Scum) quoting unnamed sources "close to the club" that we're supposedly bidding.
The same article appears to be the source for all the other articles quoting an unnamed PL club as also being interested.
The whole thing with Lyngby is a mess with the players having not been paid for a couple of months and their contracts ready to be annulled tomorrow at midnight if they've not been paid making them free agents.
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Its just come up in the Birmingham Mail.Have they got any decent players ?
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Don't know enough to comment really, but they're 3rd bottom and struggling as much on the pitch as off it.
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Maybe I'm misunderstanding the whole basis of FFP, as I haven't inspected the ground rules for same, but surely - *surely* - if we're not allowed to buy players or renew expensive contracts then we shouldn't be looking to purchase struggling clubs/entities overseas.
I read a while ago that spending on stadium, infrastructure or the academy doesn’t affect FFP so, if that’s true, maybe this kind of spending is exempt too.
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Is he any good up front?
No but he's a triple score in SoccerScrabble.
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Prefer K FC myself
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Is he any good up front?
More realistically, can he play right back?
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Maybe I'm misunderstanding the whole basis of FFP, as I haven't inspected the ground rules for same, but surely - *surely* - if we're not allowed to buy players or renew expensive contracts then we shouldn't be looking to purchase struggling clubs/entities overseas.
I read a while ago that spending on stadium, infrastructure or the academy doesn’t affect FFP so, if that’s true, maybe this kind of spending is exempt too.
It won't be Villa buying them, it will be the holding company which owns us, ie Recon, so FFP won't come in to it - they can do what they like with their money once they've found it down the back of the sofa
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Maybe I'm misunderstanding the whole basis of FFP, as I haven't inspected the ground rules for same, but surely - *surely* - if we're not allowed to buy players or renew expensive contracts then we shouldn't be looking to purchase struggling clubs/entities overseas.
I read a while ago that spending on stadium, infrastructure or the academy doesn’t affect FFP so, if that’s true, maybe this kind of spending is exempt too.
It won't be Villa buying them, it will be the holding company which owns us, ie Recon, so FFP won't come in to it - they can do what they like with their money once they've found it down the back of the sofa
Indeed. See my second post above. If indeed Recon are the bidders, it's being reported very irresponsibly.
Reflecting more on this I'm sure the loophole is that 'we' aren't formally interested in purchasing anyone, it will be under RECON group and they can do what they like within the scope of other parameters/regulations, but still being reported that it's Aston Villa doing the purchasing. If true, very strange.
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Avoid anywhere ending in by, Vikings bring nothing but trouble.
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When are the half & half scarves available?
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helff und helff scerffs ?
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Bit more on this today
Lyngby (https://www.google.ca/amp/www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/11677/11239219/aston-villa-in-negotiations-about-lyngby-boldklub-partnership)
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What’s the swizz here then? Is it some sort of FFP accounting dodge? A way of spreading our spending across continents and loan backs etc......
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Lyngby Boldklub is a great name. Sounds like an American news anchor.
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Unfortunately it's pronounced Loongboo Bolclub
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Tak.
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Am i right in saying Lyngby is the posh part of KBH ?
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Avoid anywhere ending in by, Vikings bring nothing but trouble.
does that include Formby? The Vikings stopped off here before pillaging Liverpool and causing five Krone worth of damage
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Am i right in saying Lyngby is the posh part of KBH ?
It's one of the posher bits. It's proper name is Kongens Lyngby or The King's Lyngby.
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Good speedway team Kings Lyngby. Always a ding doing with the Ipswich Witches.
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Good speedway team Kings Lyngby. Always a ding doing with the Ipswich Witches.
For some reason, Kings Lyngby reminds me of Cradely Heathby.
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Tak.
Troels Hartmann.
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Tak.
Troels Hartmann.
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Unfortunately it's pronounced Loongboo Bolclub
Not sure I could read Loongboo as "lyngby" :D
Maybe: Lin-g-bi
Danish is a throat disease for anyone not from there.
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Anyway - they didn't bring enough money to pay for player salaries last night, so players are all free to leave/sign a new contract. Though all showed up for training this morning.
They are adviced to wait until friday.
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Avoid anywhere ending in by, Vikings bring nothing but trouble.
does that include Formby? The Vikings stopped off here before pillaging Liverpool and causing five Krone worth of damage
They would have got right into Liverpool as there is Crosby.
They stayed clear of Birmingham, draw a line from Ashby down across to Rugby and it looks like that's about as far south as they got.
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So basically they stopped at a line between Hope and Crosby.
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So basically they stopped at a line between Hope and Crosby.
Is there a place called Lamour?
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So basically they stopped at a line between Hope and Crosby.
Is there a place called Lamour?
It rings a bell because I read that and immediately thought ,Oh! Lamour?
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So basically they stopped at a line between Hope and Crosby.
just up the road from Bob Bing :) ........near to Upper Bobbing,Lower Bobbing, Middle Bobbing and Bobbing in the Hole
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So basically they stopped at a line between Hope and Crosby.
Is there a place called Lamour?
It rings a bell because I read that and immediately thought ,Oh! Lamour?
A town with chronic heart related problems.
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So basically they stopped at a line between Hope and Crosby.
Is there a place called Lamour?
Road to Lyngby
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So basically they stopped at a line between Hope and Crosby.
Is there a place called Lamour?
Road to Lyngby
Is the E47
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So basically they stopped at a line between Hope and Crosby.
Is there a place called Lamour?
It rings a bell because I read that and immediately thought ,Oh! Lamour?
A town with chronic heart related problems.
Fantastic sir.
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A consortium of local businessmen have stumped up the £1.5 - 2.0 million needed to keep the club afloat for the next few weeks.
Apparently they need a total of £5M to make it through to the end of the season and some sections of the Danish media are still talking about us as interested having looked at the books yesterday and today.
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Just found an article where Wyness is on the record with BT newspaper saying there's a 5 person delegation coming over on Monday or Tuesday.
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Wyness in that recent interview stated that the FFP restricted us from spending what we wanted to in this window. That even if we had 100m to spend the rules stopped us from doing so. So I don't think Xia is skint but it appears he's investing elsewhere with longer term and broader objectives.
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If we owned Lyngby, would there be anything stopping us from buying players through them and then loaning them to us? Could be a way around FFP.
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So basically they stopped at a line between Hope and Crosby.
Is there a place called Lamour?
It rings a bell because I read that and immediately thought ,Oh! Lamour?
A town with chronic heart related problems.
It’s the heartbeat of its region.
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If we owned Lyngby, would there be anything stopping us from buying players through them and then loaning them to us? Could be a way around FFP.
Man. City are doing that with New York atm.
They're currently losing 3-0 at home to Brondby. Their stadium is very basic.
Didn't we have a tie up with a Danish club about 15 years ago?
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Pictures of Wyness in Lyngby yesterday afternoon. - Here (https://www.bt.dk/fodbold/se-billederne-sovende-engelsk-kaempe-paa-besoeg-i-danmark-forhandler-om-koeb-af)
See the pictures: English sleeping giant visit Denmark - negotiating to buy Superliga club
The richly historied English club Aston Villa were in Lyngby on Monday afternoon to check the details before a possible purchase of the Superliga club.
"Not for sale"
That was the comment from the consortium behind Lynby BK's rescue at 8pm on Sunday evening
20 hours later "Friends of Lyngby" and the clubs new CEO, Birger Jørgensen were sitting around a table with the top management from history rich Aston Villa. On the agenda: The possible sale of the club that last week was threatened with bankrupcy to the English delegation.
At 4pm on Monday, BT's photographer caught Aston Villa's management and Birger Jøregensen on their way to the negotiating table at Lyngby Stadium. The Birmingjam club, that have won the English to division 7 times had sent the big boys to Denmark. The club's CEO Keith Wyness accompanied by Ian Hopson, the finance director and manager for commercial activities, Luke Organ. In addition, the Championship giants had a large legal team with them in Denmark, where the English to managemnet were shown around Lyngby's facilities.
BT's sources say that Aston Villas plan is to takeover a majority shareholding in Lyngby, but at teh same time retain teh new consortium in the boardroon. If the purchase goes through Aston Villa will have the casting vote but could at the same time draw on the local connections and know-how that the newly created "Friends of Lyngby" possess.
"We're not coming to clear up, but to develop the club further, after local businesspeople have made a good start. We believe that we can contribute to developing he club and running it better than it has been run in some years, and it's amongst other things that reason why we've come to Denmark to be certain of. We still lack meeting Lyngby's management face to face and to examine the financials in detail before we can definitely say yes." said Aston Villa's CEO Keith Wyness last week.
Aston Villa will ue Lyngby to talent development and player exchange, as teh club sees an advantge in being able to send their own players out for match time in the Danish Superliga, but a final decision has not been reached yet.
That final decision rests on several unknown factors. Before Monday's meeting, where the English delegation also had the opportunity to see Lyngby's facilities, Aston Villa hadn't had complete access to the club's financials. Aston Villa now have that.
But there are other question marks. To start with is the fact that Lyngby's new management are no longer forced to sell. As Birger Jørgensen said on Sunday, the club is no longer for sale after the newve shredding rescue from bankrupcy last weekend. But that situation can come again and it would be surprising if Lyngby's new owners could ignore an offer from e.g. Aston Villa.
A second point is that according to Lyngby's CEO, there is still interest from other possible buyers. Three other anonynous suitors to be precise. A third point is the question around Lyngby Stadium. Whilst Aston Villa are in Denmark, the club aslo met with Lyngby-Taarbærk Council to sound out possibilities for upgrading Lyngby's outdated stadium or even building a complete new stadium on the current plot.
"I can't answer about what they're going to talk to Lyngby-Taarbæk Council about. But I can guess what it is. Because they have some ground and some buildings and we have a football club," said Birgen Jørgensen to BT on Sunday referring to Aston Villa's meeting north from Copenhagen.
Now Aston Villa will take the meetings with Lyngby BK and the council who own the stadium in one hand and the financial data in teh other and travel home over teh North Sea to think things through. If the conclusion is positive, it could well mean a definite offer to but in Lyngby's inbox soon.
BT attempted to contact Lyngby CEO Birger Jørgensen on Monday, but the figurehead for the "Friends og Lyngby" consortium didn't return our calls.
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Looks like Robathan wrote teh article.
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(https://d16b4kgyytl7c7.cloudfront.net/~/media/WynessGrabbanReveal.ashx?mh=720&mw=1280&vs=1&d=20180131T234947Z&hash=BD3EA5F35A84508F9D25CFB6CF14DEAA03F95088)
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Looks like Robathan wrote teh article.
More likely my half arsed translation skills.
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Looks like Robathan wrote teh article.
Bastard, beat me to it.
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Interesting to read about the developments. Thanks for taking the trouble of translating for us!
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Good idea.
Could get round FFP by buying players and make the like of Richards move to Denmark until contract run out to help us.
Give us more knowledge overseas
Give our young players game time
Allow us to buy players and send them to Denmark to get experience and qualify for work permit.
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Good idea.
Could get round FFP by buying players and make the like of Richards move to Denmark until contract run out to help us.
Give us more knowledge overseas
Give our young players game time
Allow us to buy players and send them to Denmark to get experience and qualify for work permit.
The entire project would be justified just for that one thing to happen.
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Best to keep it quiet though, it might scare them away from negotiations.