Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: The Laughing Policeman on December 02, 2017, 12:27:05 PM
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Third round draw on Monday .
Who do you want us to get, or are any of you like me in thinking that a run in the cup will be a distraction from more important matters?
Personally I'd be happy with Man City away, get knocked out and then we can concentrate on the more important job of getting back into the Prem.
And with our injury problems do we really need those extra games?
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Someone really shit at home. I want us to win the FA Cup.
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Man City at home. Get it over and done with for this year. We can try and win it when we’re stabilzed back in the prem
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I've been told I have to go out that evening so a boring home game would be fine. If we get an exciting away game I hope it gets moved to the Sunday.
Hopefully Sheffield United and Fulham get knocked out so as not to ruin future away trips by having them moved to the midweek.
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Wolves at home as I am holiday the weekend we are due to play them at home in the league.
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With some of our fans there will always be a reason to go out of the cups, sadly.
The need for promotion. The need to avoid relegation. The need to finish top 6 and get in Europe (only to throw European games to avoid relegation/challenge for the title).
All from the book of 'Things losers say'.
What's wrong with trying to win every game you play? Now there's an idea.
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Someone shit at home so I can get to a match, looks dicey getting to Sheff Utd now because Sky have moved it so I probably won't manage a game in December.
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At home to those pie eaters from Smethwick.
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Coventry away (if they’re still in it)
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Man Utd away
No lose scenario
JT and Chester mount a noble defence and Jed Steer gets unlucky and spills a Zlatan shot in the 92st minute.
We beat them and ram it down their throats ala MON in 2008/9 or wherever it was.
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Third round draw on Monday .
Who do you want us to get, or are any of you like me in thinking that a run in the cup will be a distraction from more important matters?
Personally I'd be happy with Man City away, get knocked out and then we can concentrate on the more important job of getting back into the Prem.
And with our injury problems do we really need those extra games?
While I respect your opinion I completely disagree with you.
I think the likes of Archie Hunter, John Devey, Harry Hampton, Eric Houghton, Johnny Dixon, and Peter McParland would agree with me. What former or present Villains can you name who you think would agree with you ?
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As far back as I remember the FA Cup propelled clubs onto the upward spiral
Chelsea 1970 (winners of the Cup winners club the season after and became quite a smallish fashionable club)
Sunderland 1973 (promotion within the next 12 months)
West Ham 1980 (through gritted teeth - good finish to the season and promotion)
Everton 1984 (league champions for the first time since 1970 12 months later)
Manchester United 1990 (the rebirth of trophies for Man Ure and saved Ferguson from the Chop)
The cup is something to be embraced not shunned
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Anyone shit at home or MK Dons or Coventry away with the unlimited tickets this would provide.
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I'd rather win the cup than go up. Both would be nice I suppose but my Mom always told me not to be greedy.
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If poxy West Brom can get promoted and win the cup in the same season, I see no reason why we can't.
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Anyone shit at home or MK Dons or Coventry away with the unlimited tickets this would provide.
I am not particularly a PC person but to play MK Dons - its a big No.
I would boycott the tie. I know most would go and good luck to you. But they are not a football club as far as I am concerned.
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Preston, Blackburn, Bolton or Wigan away would be nice!
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Hereford FC away
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Fulham away might be fun :)
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Preston, Blackburn, Bolton or Wigan away would be nice!
Likes ! - You missed Flyde and Burnley, even Huddersfield
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Third round draw on Monday .
Who do you want us to get, or are any of you like me in thinking that a run in the cup will be a distraction from more important matters?
Personally I'd be happy with Man City away, get knocked out and then we can concentrate on the more important job of getting back into the Prem.
And with our injury problems do we really need those extra games?
While I respect your opinion I completely disagree with you.
I think the likes of Archie Hunter, John Devey, Harry Hampton, Eric Houghton, Johnny Dixon, and Peter McParland would agree with me. What former or present Villains can you name who you think would agree with you ?
I don't think any of them would agree with me. But as you say it's just my opinion on an Internet forum.
I said a few years ago on here that I've decided not to die until win the bloody thing again, so all I'm doing really is hoping to extend my life by another year. :)
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Blues at our place which will be a Sunday,no choice but to have the replay midweek,get given the whole of the railway end, Gabby score winner on 89.
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We'll never win this trophy again, so don't care who we get.
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We'll never win this trophy again, so don't care who we get.
From the very same book I was talking about.
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We'll never win this trophy again, so don't care who we get.
From the very same book I was talking about.
That's me told.
I'm enjoying watching us win some games and not getting dicked every week as well; I'm really not that fussed about getting into the Prem.
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Somewhere away that I haven't been to.
It's our year.
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We'll never win this trophy again, so don't care who we get.
Never's a long time!
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We'll never win this trophy again.
This is probably true, but I refuse to believe it nevertheless.
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The day I stop dreaming about Villa winning the FA Cup is the day I pack it in altogether. Promotion for a football fan, shouldn't even come close to a Wembley final win.
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I would like Shrewsbury or Stevenage or Coventry City at home please.
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Hereford/Fleetwood at home.
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West Ham or Spurs away
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I was hoping for Maidstone. But they blew it in the last 20 mins or so against MK Dons.
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home manure
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Arsenal home. Reckon we could do a bit of giant killing
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Blues at our place which will be a Sunday,no choice but to have the replay midweek,get given the whole of the railway end, Gabby score winner on 89.
Well we are overdue to meet them, amazingly 1901 was the last time we met them in the F A Cup, we beat them 1-0 after a replay.
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I'm happy not to draw them. They've never beaten us or even scored a goal against us in three attempts in this competition. I don't mind keeping that record.
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Manchester United at home as the only thing I have missed about the Premier League is seeing Zlatan live in a proper game
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Manchester United at home as the only thing I have missed about the Premier League is seeing Zlatan live in a proper game
Did you not go to that friendly against Inter Milan in about 2007? He played with Adriano, Figo and Balotelli.
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Exeter city away or West Brom home.
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What time is the Draw?
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Manchester United at home as the only thing I have missed about the Premier League is seeing Zlatan live in a proper game
Did you not go to that friendly against Inter Milan in about 2007? He played with Adriano, Figo and Balotelli.
Yep, was there but a demolition in a friendly is not as good as watching in a competitive game
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West Brom at home would do me. Fcuk the Fcukers
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What time is the Draw?
7pm on BBC2
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Someone really shit at home. I want us to win the FA Cup.
Yep, this.
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Are the Villa haters from Coventry still in the cup? If so, them away.
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No to Coventry they will rip the wallets off us
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Someone really shit at home. I want us to win the FA Cup.
Yep, this.
West Brom it is then.
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Burton Albion at home
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Burton Albion at home
Just dont say Burton away
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Are the Villa haters from Coventry still in the cup? If so, them away.
They are still obsessed with us. I went to the Bromsgrove v Coventry United game on Saturday and I kid you not, they sang "shit on the Villa" a few times.
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Numbers
1 Bournemouth
2 Arsenal
3 Aston Villa
4 Barnsley
5 Birmingham
6 Bolton
7 Brentford
8 Brighton
9 Bristol City
10 Burnley
11 Burton Albion
12 Cardiff
13 Chelsea
14 Crystal Palace
15 Derby
16 Everton
17 Fulham
18 Huddersfield
19 Hull
20 Ipswich
21 Leeds
22 Leicester
23 Liverpool
24 Manchester City
25 Manchester United
26 Middlesbrough
27 Millwall
28 Newcastle
29 Norwich
30 Nottingham Forest
31 Preston
32 QPR
33 Reading
34 Sheffield United
35 Sheffield Wednesday
36 Southampton
37 Stoke
38 Sunderland
39 Swansea
40 Tottenham
41 Watford
42 West Brom
43 West Ham
44 Wolves
45 Woking/Peterborough
46 MK Dons
47 Newport County
48 Wycombe
49 Port Vale/Yeovil
50 Shrewsbury
51 Doncaster
52 Slough/Rochdale
53 AFC Wimbledon
54 Stevenage
55 Mansfield
56 Luton Town
57 Bradford
58 Blackburn/Crewe
59 Fylde/Wigan
60 Gillingham/Carlisle
61 Notts County
62 Forest Green/Exeter
63 Fleetwood/Hereford
64 Coventry City
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Hereford or Fleetwood at home it is then.
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Home to Woking or Peterborough that'll do.
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Woking/Posh at home.
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Winnable, even without any strikers. And it will not be on the telly, so make plans for 1500 on 6.1.18.
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We played Peterborough over two games in the Cup in 1961 when they were still a non league side. We have never played Woking. Should be a good away following whichever team we face.
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Winnable, even without any strikers. And it will not be on the telly, so make plans for 1500 on 6.1.18.
Until the old bill make us move it as blues are at home as well.
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Good winnable tie that.
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Let’s hope the game is priced accordingly. £10 adults, £5 kids max. We don’t want another crowd like the one we got in the League Cup this season.
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Winnable, even without any strikers. And it will not be on the telly, so make plans for 1500 on 6.1.18.
Until the old bill make us move it as blues are at home as well.
Which has never, ever caused a fixture to be moved.
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It might do if they were playing Man United, but I doubt the twenty or so thousand at Villa Park and the three thousand at The Sty will cause too much panic.
I can still see Villa being moved as the BBC move about a dozen games to the Sunday.
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From those around us in the league only Bristol City and Derby look like not making it through to the next round and having to play an additional game(s).
Wolverhampton Wanderers v Swansea City
Cardiff City v Mansfield Town
Ipswich v Sheffield United
Watford v Bristol City
Manchester United v Derby County
Newport County v Leeds United
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Winnable, even without any strikers. And it will not be on the telly, so make plans for 1500 on 6.1.18.
Until the old bill make us move it as blues are at home as well.
Which has never, ever caused a fixture to be moved.
And I thought you would miss that and focus on our new loan signing Leonardo Ulloa making his debut.
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We played Peterborough over two games in the Cup in 1961 when they were still a non league side. We have never played Woking. Should be a good away following whichever team we face.
And in 95/96. 6-0 at home, Draper scoring a cracking freekick and I think they had 2 sent off which led to their fans getting a tad boisterous.
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Hope to see us play a full strength side and give the FA Cup our best shot. Hate it when people call it a 'distraction.'
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I hope Tim Buzaglo has retired.
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I hope Tim Buzaglo has retired.
Bah, beaten to it!
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Hope to see us play a full strength side and give the FA Cup our best shot. Hate it when people call it a 'distraction.'
We'll play the 2nd string and should still have more than enough to dispatch Woking or Posh.
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Sorry! I had the urge to Google him after posting. Apparently he got injured shortly after the Albion game and hardly played football again... he did play international cricket for Gibraltar though.
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Winnable, even without any strikers. And it will not be on the telly, so make plans for 1500 on 6.1.18.
Until the old bill make us move it as blues are at home as well.
Which has never, ever caused a fixture to be moved.
Is that right - my mistake I thought it had. Saturday 3pm it is - like all games should be
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Hope to see us play a full strength side and give the FA Cup our best shot. Hate it when people call it a 'distraction.'
We'll play the 2nd string and should still have more than enough to dispatch Woking or Posh.
Peterborough are near the top of League One so wouldn't be a pushover.
I'd hope it would, at least, give us a chance to rest the likes of Davis, Whelan and Samba.
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Good draw at home, I hope we go on a good cup run.
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A good Cup run for Villa is normally one match - i think that's do-able
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Of course us winning this means that we will probably be going to Sheff U midweek for the league game, scheduled for 4th round day
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A good Cup run for Villa is normally one match - i think that's do-able
You mean like the 2015 FA Cup Final?
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Winnable, even without any strikers. And it will not be on the telly, so make plans for 1500 on 6.1.18.
Until the old bill make us move it as blues are at home as well.
Which has never, ever caused a fixture to be moved.
Came here for someone to say that and for Dave to respond on cue. Leaving happy.
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One for the kids.
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Looking forward to the TV feast of Man Utd V Derby
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Since the 2000 final we've only gone past the 4th round 5 times in 17 attempts, which is a pretty crap record.
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Looking forward to the TV feast of Man Utd V Derby
Of course, BBC are obliged to show all Man U cup games
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Merseyside derby, Forest-Arsenal, Norwich-Chelsea, Man. United will all be on TV before this one.
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I wonder how many stands they’ll have open at the Sty for the Burton game...
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I'll be coming up for this seeing as I cant make either Millwall or Sheff United. Hopefully 3pm on a Saturday please, fixture computer....
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I wonder how many stands they’ll have open at the Sty for the Burton game...
The Gabby Agbonlahor Stand and one other is my guess. Probably the smaller of the three. Burton must be gutted.
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I wonder how many stands they’ll have open at the Sty for the Burton game...
The Gabby Agbonlahor Stand and one other is my guess. Probably the smaller of the three. Burton must be gutted.
They've always got the chance of a big draw in the 4th round.
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Since the 2000 final we've only gone past the 4th round 5 times in 17 attempts, which is a pretty crap record.
We've had a crap cup record for most of the last 60 years.
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Happy with the draw would prefer Woking as I have never seen them.
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Since the 2000 final we've only gone past the 4th round 5 times in 17 attempts, which is a pretty crap record.
We've had a crap cup record for most of the last 60 years.
We've just got a really boring cup record. I can think of two embarrassing exits this century, Millwall and Sheffield United, and one victory in recent times when we weren't expected to win, Liverpool.
Basically, we rarely lose to shite but are equally incapable of raising our game to beat the better teams which is why we haven't won the bloody thing since MacMillan had just come into office.
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Since the 2000 final we've only gone past the 4th round 5 times in 17 attempts, which is a pretty crap record.
We've had a crap cup record for most of the last 60 years.
We've just got a really boring cup record. I can think of two embarrassing exits this century, Millwall and Sheffield United, and one victory in recent times when we weren't expected to win, Liverpool.
Basically, we rarely lose to shite but are equally incapable of raising our game to beat the better teams which is why we haven't won the bloody thing since MacMillan had just come into office.
I would count being battered 4 nil by Arsenal an embarrassing exit too.
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If we get Woking there's a decent chance it will be on TV IMO, though with them being away the cameras may not be so chumping at the bit. I'm happy with the draw. Probably would prefer Peterborough (I'm from there), and there would be less pressure on us and it would be a smaller upset. A cup run would be nice, but the league is the key focus.
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I wonder how many stands they’ll have open at the Sty for the Burton game...
Appreciate its small time but sod it, i revelled in the latest Blues defeat on Monday night. Wolves fans singing ‘Blues are falling apart again ‘ while their hosts huffed and puffed their way to another goalles home defeat, Sky rubbing it in when explaining 12 months ago they sacked Rowett while nestling comfortably in fifth place or thereabouts, an air headed Bluenose being red carded for an imbecilic violent act in an attempt to match the behaviour of the onlooking unwashed, if they were still playing now I doubt Blues would have reached the opposition eighteen yard box they were that crap. Bemused Manager, demoralised supporters, powder puff first eleven and as comprehensive a 1-0 as you will ever see. Beautiful. Up yours Blues.
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Any noise yet as to which one will be moved? My Bluenose missus and I will be going to both.
Have we ever played Woking in competition before? Last time we played Peterborough was in opening our defence of our '94 LC win IIRC.
I don't want Woking. I don't want Woking. I just don't want my Albion supporting mates to be in with any chance of healing '91.
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Any noise yet as to which one will be moved?
Neither, I imagine.
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I want to play Woking, we never play non-league teams (about once in the last 50 years).
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Looking forward to the TV feast of Man Utd V Derby
Of course, BBC are obliged to show all Man U cup games
Amazingly the United game is NOT on the box, the Beeb have got the Merseyside derby on the Friday night.
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I want to play Woking, we never play non-league teams (about once in the last 50 years).
Twice. But it was in the same game.
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Part of me thinks I'd rather play a non-league team, but the other part of me thinks that in all of this decade of misery we haven't lost to a non-league team yet, and Villa like to find new and exciting ways to embarrass and annoy me.
Are Woking professional or semi-pro?
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Part of me thinks I'd rather play a non-league team, but the other part of me thinks that in all of this decade of misery we haven't lost to a non-league team yet, and Villa like to find new and exciting ways to embarrass and annoy me.
Are Woking professional or semi-pro?
You should know that there is no such thing as a professional football team in England.
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I want to play Woking, we never play non-league teams (about once in the last 50 years).
Twice. But it was in the same game.
Did we not play Gravesend a few years ago?
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I want to play Woking, we never play non-league teams (about once in the last 50 years).
Twice. But it was in the same game.
Did we not play Gravesend a few years ago?
And Northfleet. 2 teams and we still beat them. They are now called Ebbsfleet United.
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Has it been mentioned yet that Woking beat the Albion 20 odd years ago 4-2 in the cup at the Hawthorns? I worked in Surrey around that time so could enjoy their moment in the sun along with them.
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We've played Chester, Leyton Orient, Tranmere and Darlington in recent years who were league clubs at the time but are all non league now.
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I don't think the Chester that we played exist anymore. The ones in the Conference are a new club. Possibly the same with Darlington.
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Never mind the cup we played Orient last game of the season when only a penalty stoppped them going up to Division one in place of Carlisle. Probably the lowest Villa support for a league game ever.
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I want to play Woking, we never play non-league teams (about once in the last 50 years).
I remember playing Gravesend & Northfleet in the third round (late 90s ?). They beat Cinderford Town in the previous round.
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I want to play Woking, we never play non-league teams (about once in the last 50 years).
Twice. But it was in the same game.
Did we not play Gravesend a few years ago?
And Northfleet. 2 teams and we still beat them. They are now called Ebbsfleet United.
Duh! That Andy Lochhead in the Air fella is far too smart for me😟
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Woking are typical non league. We would pulverise them.
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well at least it has been confirmed 3pm kickoff on a Saturday
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Any noise yet as to which one will be moved?
Neither, I imagine.
It would appear not. I still find it surprising that the WMP are happy to let it go ahead like that.
Annoying when you're in the position to want to go to both.
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Dropped a quick line to the WMP and got a reply back saying because they don't expect high attendances for either game they won't be making representations to the FA that one should be moved.
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We both played at home the same day earlier this season during the Second Round of the League Cup. It's not really a problem as they only ever get a decent crowd in when they play us.
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Woking are typical non league. We would pulverise them.
Hold my beer.
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Woking one up in the replay.
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Woking are typical non league. We would pulverise them.
Fantastic. We're 70 mins from Round 4,
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Peterborough equalise.
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Spoilsports.
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Now 2-1 down from winning 1-0. Bruce Out.
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Bring Buzaglo on!
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I want to play Woking, we never play non-league teams (about once in the last 50 years).
I remember playing Gravesend & Northfleet in the third round (late 90s ?). They beat Cinderford Town in the previous round.
I was gutted about that. A Cinderford victory would have meant a free day at VP courtesy of Tim Harris and Brian Godfrey. But no, they lost the replay 3-0.
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3-1. Woking have gone to sleep.
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3-2. Awoke.
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One non-league opponent in the last ninety-eight years.
Arsenal played two in the space of nineteen days last spring.
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No doubt we'll all give Barry Fry a warm Villa Park welcome :)
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No doubt we'll all give Barry Fry a warm Villa Park welcome :)
I would if I get the chance. Let's not forget he did more for Tony Barton in one night than Doug Ellis did in 24 years.
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That's promising. :)
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No doubt we'll all give Barry Fry a warm Villa Park welcome :)
I didn't realise he was still at Peterborough. I can't take him seriously enough to dislike him.
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Quite like Barry Fry tbh
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Quite like Barry Fry tbh
Lovely, but hopefully does more for Steve Bruce in one night than...
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One non-league opponent in the last ninety-eight years.
Arsenal played two in the space of nineteen days last spring.
It helps if you avoid a third or fourth round exit.
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Not too much as, generally, all the non-league teams are gone by Round Five anyway, last year was an exception. In any case, I dare say we have got to the latter stages more often than 90% of league clubs.
Playing one non-league team in nearly a century is a bizarre and freaky statistic.
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Playing one non-league team in nearly a century is a bizarre and freaky statistic.
It is but given the last few years, probably one that's saved us some pretty serious embarrassment!
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That thought had crossed my mind!
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We've played blooded more than once in our history
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No doubt we'll all give Barry Fry a warm Villa Park welcome :)
I would if I get the chance. Let's not forget he did more for Tony Barton in one night than Doug Ellis did in 24 years.
What did he do?
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No doubt we'll all give Barry Fry a warm Villa Park welcome :)
I would if I get the chance. Let's not forget he did more for Tony Barton in one night than Doug Ellis did in 24 years.
What did he do?
Gave the memorial match selection committee any Blues player they wanted at about eight hours notice and said that if he'd been asked the entire team would have been the opposition.
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No doubt we'll all give Barry Fry a warm Villa Park welcome :)
I would if I get the chance. Let's not forget he did more for Tony Barton in one night than Doug Ellis did in 24 years.
What did he do?
Gave the memorial match selection committee any Blues player they wanted at about eight hours notice and said that if he'd been asked the entire team would have been the opposition.
Fair play to him , I didn't know that.
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No doubt we'll all give Barry Fry a warm Villa Park welcome :)
I would if I get the chance. Let's not forget he did more for Tony Barton in one night than Doug Ellis did in 24 years.
What did he do?
Gave the memorial match selection committee any Blues player they wanted at about eight hours notice and said that if he'd been asked the entire team would have been the opposition.
Fair play to him , I didn't know that.
Agreed, fair play to him. I had never heard that either - I was living in France for most of the 1990s so missed out on a lot of stuff in those prehistoric days.
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I want to play Woking, we never play non-league teams (about once in the last 50 years).
I remember playing Gravesend & Northfleet in the third round (late 90s ?). They beat Cinderford Town in the previous round.
Wasn't He's Got No Hair But We Don't Care managing, or something to do with them, at that point. Cinderford, that is.
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I want to play Woking, we never play non-league teams (about once in the last 50 years).
I remember playing Gravesend & Northfleet in the third round (late 90s ?). They beat Cinderford Town in the previous round.
Wasn't He's Got No Hair But We Don't Care managing, or something to do with them, at that point. Cinderford, that is.
I was living abroad at that time but I think he may have played for them that day.