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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: dave.woodhall on November 25, 2017, 11:55:55 AM

Title: Justice for the 21 collection today
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 25, 2017, 11:55:55 AM
12.30 onwards at the McGregor statue. They're raising funds to continue their legal fight. Give generously and spread the word. 
Title: Re: Justice for ther 21 collection today
Post by: Sunny Villa on November 25, 2017, 12:30:15 PM
Thanks Dave
Title: Re: Justice for the 21 collection today
Post by: clash city rocker on November 25, 2017, 01:50:48 PM
They need honest answers.
Title: Re: Justice for the 21 collection today
Post by: ChicagoLion on November 25, 2017, 02:01:34 PM
Genuine question, why has it taken all this time to raise this issue, not a criticism I am genuinely interested.

If someone can post a link I will gladly make a contribution.
Title: Re: Justice for the 21 collection today
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 25, 2017, 02:05:00 PM
Genuine question, why has it taken all this time to raise this issue, not a criticism I am genuinely interested.

If someone can post a link I will gladly make a contribution.

The campaign has been going for years. It's like Hillsborough; keep butting a dam and eventually it bursts.
Title: Re: Justice for the 21 collection today
Post by: Legion on November 25, 2017, 02:24:59 PM
Genuine question, why has it taken all this time to raise this issue, not a criticism I am genuinely interested.

If someone can post a link I will gladly make a contribution.

There is a link on our FB Page. I will put it on this thread in a bit.
Title: Re: Justice for the 21 collection today
Post by: Legion on November 25, 2017, 02:27:30 PM
Click here (https://www.gofundme.com/justice-for-the-21)
Title: Re: Justice for the 21 collection today
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on November 25, 2017, 02:28:07 PM
I can’t help thinking if this had been in Liverpool or London they would’ve had justice by now.
Title: Re: Justice for the 21 collection today
Post by: Chinchilla Bathhouse on November 25, 2017, 02:31:59 PM
I can’t help thinking if this had been in Liverpool or London they would’ve had justice by now.

Yes, because Liverpool got justice in the blink of an eye didn't they?
Title: Re: Justice for the 21 collection today
Post by: UK Redsox on November 25, 2017, 02:34:54 PM
Just walked past the statue and didn’t see any collectors

Did they relocate ?
Title: Re: Justice for the 21 collection today
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on November 25, 2017, 02:35:55 PM
Quicker than 43 years though.  With the added bonus that the police know exactly who did it.  Anyway it’s not for this thread.  Let’s just do what we can.
Title: Re: Justice for the 21 collection today
Post by: Chinchilla Bathhouse on November 25, 2017, 02:50:35 PM
Absolutely. Just thought Liverpool was an odd example to use given what they went through. And you're right, 43 years is truly disgraceful. Well done to all involved in the fight for justice.
Title: Re: Justice for the 21 collection today
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on November 25, 2017, 06:54:45 PM
Just walked past the statue and didn’t see any collectors

Did they relocate ?
Saw  them outside the Holte pub
Title: Re: Justice for the 21 collection today
Post by: class-of-82 on November 25, 2017, 09:16:57 PM
I to was at the McGregor statue at 2pm but could see anyone collecting is there a paypal link or some thing i had £21 ready to drop in the collection.
I'm not on facebook so cant do it through that
Title: Re: Justice for the 21 collection today
Post by: Legion on November 25, 2017, 09:18:24 PM
See my earlier post with a link to follow.
Title: Re: Justice for the 21 collection today
Post by: clash city rocker on November 25, 2017, 09:22:43 PM
With Hillsborough it was the police to blame. With the pub bombings there are probably so many implicated with the event and the investigation come cover up that followed that I don't think the truth will ever come to light.
Title: Re: Justice for the 21 collection today
Post by: Sexual Ealing on November 25, 2017, 09:27:22 PM
Quicker than 43 years though.  With the added bonus that the police know exactly who did it.  Anyway it’s not for this thread.  Let’s just do what we can.

Genuine question because I don't know, but is this a generally accepted fact?
Title: Re: Justice for the 21 collection today
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on November 25, 2017, 09:39:53 PM
A World in Action documentary in 1990 named five suspects.  These were apparently obtained via a leaked West Midlands special branch document. 

In addition when Mullin was interviewed by the then ACC Tom Meffen he also named the same people trying to corroborate Mullins claims to have met the real bombers in Ireland.
Title: Re: Justice for the 21 collection today
Post by: Sexual Ealing on November 25, 2017, 09:44:33 PM
A World in Action documentary in 1990 named five suspects.  These were apparently obtained via a leaked West Midlands special branch document. 

In addition when Mullin was interviewed by the then ACC Tom Meffen he also named the same people trying to corroborate Mullins claims to have met the real bombers in Ireland.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Justice for the 21 collection today
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on November 25, 2017, 09:50:43 PM
Unfortunately for the justice campaign three of these five are now dead.
Title: Re: Justice for the 21 collection today
Post by: ROBBO on November 25, 2017, 11:46:00 PM
I worked above a jewellers in Corporation Street just around the corner from this atrocity, I still think about the senseless murder of all those innocents, I think governments forget about all those damaged for life. Still no answers.
Title: Re: Justice for the 21 collection today
Post by: AlwaysAVFC on November 26, 2017, 07:28:46 AM
I to was at the McGregor statue at 2pm but could see anyone collecting is there a paypal link or some thing i had £21 ready to drop in the collection.
I'm not on facebook so cant do it through that

https://www.gofundme.com/justice-for-the-21
Title: Re: Justice for the 21 collection today
Post by: class-of-82 on November 26, 2017, 05:30:22 PM
thanks
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