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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: UK Redsox on November 04, 2017, 02:01:04 PM
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Hogan? That’s a surprise
What’s up with Yoko?
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I was just thinking I’d like to see Hogan playing off Davis. This is his chance. It’s an aggressive line up.
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Two upfront as I wanted.
Hogan really needs to step up.
We have Adomah in brilliant form who'll provide him with crosses. Snodgrass can play incisive throughballs centrally.
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Hogan? That’s a surprise
What’s up with Yoko?
He was doubtful for today’s along with a few others. Glad Snoddy and Hutton made it through
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According to Pravda on Twitter, Yoko has a groin strain
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I like that line up. Be interesting to see how Hogan does with Davis, I can see that working well.
Good to see Jack and Callum O'Hare on the bench, hopefully they'll get some game time.
UTV.
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Sheff Weds have badly underachieved this season. Fletcher, Rhodes and Hooper all good strikers at this level and Bannan's a good midfielder down here.
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will there be a video stream on AVTV for todays match?
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Who is Yoko? I have enough problems when their real names are used.
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Who is Yoko? I have enough problems when their real names are used.
I think Onomah. I think...
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Yoko Onomah
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Who is Yoko? I have enough problems when their real names are used.
Onomah (best guess) given he is not in the squad.
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will there be a video stream on AVTV for todays match?
I got the reminder this morning but AVTV told me yesterday it's not being broadcasted live video, just audio.
https://www.efl.com/clubs-and-competitions/tv-games/international-games/
I really hope it's on!!!
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Two upfront as I wanted.
Hogan really needs to step up.
We have Adomah in brilliant form who'll provide him with crosses. Snodgrass can play incisive throughballs centrally.
Be interesting to see how Hogan does today partnered with Davis. Should suit far more than being up front on his own.
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Who is Yoko? I have enough problems when their real names are used.
Glad someone else said it. I was scratching my head in wonder.
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Come on Hogan, I had high hopes for him when we signed him.
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Hogie's first proper and maybe last chance. Grab it, fella.
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come on Scotty
be such a lovely problem If he has a great game and nets a goal
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Hogie's first proper and maybe last chance. Grab it, fella.
I hope it's not his last chance, that would be more than a little unfair. It is a chance though of course and you would hope that he would look a threat at least, especially if its a good team performance.
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A chance for Hogan and Davis to show they're first 11 starters.
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Yoko and Hogie?! Call them by their actual names!
Happy with that line up considering the injuries. Up the Villa.
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Yoko and Hogie?! Call them by their actual names!
Happy with that line up considering the injuries. Up the Villa.
With you on the names, might be different if they’d played a season or two with us. I’m only just getting my head around their real names.
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Hogie's first proper and maybe last chance. Grab it, fella.
I hope it's not his last chance, that would be more than a little unfair. It is a chance though of course and you would hope that he would look a threat at least, especially if its a good team performance.
It's all set up for him to prosper. Strike partner, inform winger.
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BLLOCKS!!!
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1 down after 20 seconds!
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just had a nightmare they scored after seconds
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Fucking hell
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Well that’s a good start.
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Shit
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Bloody hell, that was some goal.
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Not on AVTV, could I get a PM if there's a stream please....
Thanks!
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Any one else having problem AVTV
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Let see what spudhead does with this.
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That goal they scored was a cracker, on the volley top corner rocket!
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At least Small Heath also one down at the same time
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Any one else having problem AVTV
I think for some reason this game is audio only on AVTV.
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well at least we're gonna have to come out and attack for a change. Will actually give us some idea how good we are as an offensive force
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Any one else having problem AVTV
Yes. I managed Audio for 30 seconds but can't access Video at all. The email I received this morning from Villa clearly says "Watch Live"....
What's going on?
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Must be the quickest goal in recent memory at VP. I remember Ian Taylor once scoring after 40 seconds but that was in the 90s.
Be a good test for the team this. We've been in the lead in most of the games this season and won them. Less so when we've conceded first.
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Rip off
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cant even get Audio
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This is something I have paid for! Fucking rip off
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Looks a decent crowd, Lower Holte seems full.
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Any one else having problem AVTV
I think for some reason this game is audio only on AVTV.
Saying 'Currently not Broadcasting' ( wtf ?!) .....Godzvilla!
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Just seen the goal, it's a cracker it has to be said. I think our only touch was a Terry header as he was falling over.
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Any one else having problem AVTV
I think for some reason this game is audio only on AVTV.
Good to know. Now if I could just find the audio commentary on the Villa website....
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Screamer of a goal, won't hit another one like that ever again.
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Any one else having problem AVTV
I think for some reason this game is audio only on AVTV.
Good to know. Now if I could just find the audio commentary on the Villa website....
It is supposed to be on!
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The game is live (video) on www.bet365.es if that helps anyone. Probably also Bet365 sites in other countries outside UK & Ireland.
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Bit better, Snodgrass shot easily saved though.
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Any one else having problem AVTV
I think for some reason this game is audio only on AVTV.
Good to know. Now if I could just find the audio commentary on the Villa website....
It is supposed to be on!
Bastards. Surely it's on somewhere
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Any one else having problem AVTV
I think for some reason this game is audio only on AVTV.
Good to know. Now if I could just find the audio commentary on the Villa website....
It is supposed to be on!
Doesn't seem to give me the option of audio. Just tells me video isn't broadcasting...
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I don't understand why we're playing so edgy and nervous.
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I can't see this staying 1-0, open game. Terry limping.
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The live game thing on AVTV live game or audio hasn’t been worth it at all. Very disappointing that I can’t get today’s game.
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Terry seems to be struggling.
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Any one else having problem AVTV
I think for some reason this game is audio only on AVTV.
Good to know. Now if I could just find the audio commentary on the Villa website....
It is supposed to be on!
A message just came up saying due to international broadcasting rights the game won’t be televised and contact AVTV for a refund, so they did not know this a minute before kick off?
We were told that any game not in UK tv was available, shambles.
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Bein sports 2, live there....and periscope
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JT will have to be taken off soon. Oh dear. Hope it's not one of those days where everything unravels.
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Terry off.
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I think there's a copyright issue for Championship games and they can't be broadcast video or audio
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C'mon JT, run it off son. Samba is a walking disaster
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Samba on.
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Samba on.
I fear our run of not losing is coming to an end
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Shit
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Rhodes.
0-2.
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Garbage
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Chris Samba.
We're doomed...
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Oh dear.
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Fuck me.
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Straight through Samba, what a shock!
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Buggery bollocks.
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A mountain to climb.
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Shit luck today.
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I’d have bought Jedi on in defence anyone but Samba.
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Walking through our defence. Another good goal.
We're being picked off here.
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Last time we come back from 2 down for the nerds?
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Don't worry, Manager Bruce will sort it out with a motivational half time talk
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Not sure i've heard Hogan's name yet.
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Day goes from bad to awful to even worse.
Watching on dazn in Germany and the commentator sounds like an Owls fan which makes it worse.
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Would it not have been wiser to have Hutton move into the middle and Taylor go to left back.
Chris Samba is possibly the worst ever player to put on a Villa shirt.
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Last time we come back from 2 down for the nerds?
Probably about 1996.
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Any one else having problem AVTV
I think for some reason this game is audio only on AVTV.
Good to know. Now if I could just find the audio commentary on the Villa website....
It is supposed to be on!
A message just came up saying due to international broadcasting rights the game won’t be televised and contact AVTV for a refund, so they did not know this a minute before kick off?
We were told that any game not in UK tv was available, shambles.
Just got a reply from support pointing me to the list of ineligible fixtures and apologising for 'the inconvenience'.
Have replied pointing out it might have been an idea not to advertise live video if it wasn't available and that it isn't an 'inconvenience', it's charging for an non-existent product and they need to issue a refund.
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Shit luck today.
Not really. All we've done in give the ball to them for 26 minutes and looked like scared kittens.
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Last time we come back from 2 down for the nerds?
Was it when we beat Albion 4-3?
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Still on for a 4-2 Villa win. #thoughtsandprayers
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The Preston performance is looking something of a false dawn.
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Last time we come back from 2 down for the nerds?
Off the top of my head Bitters 4-3 Jan 2014.
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The Hourihane/Whelan pairing reminds me of Westwood/Cleverley.. run around a bit, keep possession, drop off in defense, refuse to charge forward.
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Last time we come back from 2 down for the nerds?
Was it when we beat Albion 4-3?
Coventry at home early 2000's . Angel's first goal. No?
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Last time we come back from 2 down for the nerds?
Was it when we beat Albion 4-3?
I can only remember Zat Knights equaliser against the gunners finishing 2-2....surely there was one after that!?
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Sheff United losing at home to Hull at least.
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Out of interest how are people seeing this?
Pm?
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We're not getting close to them. Backing off all the time.
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I would take off Hogan and put on jedinak before it gets humiliating
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Last time we come back from 2 down for the nerds?
Off the top of my head Bitters 4-3 Jan 2014.
Must be that
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Very much second best so far.
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We always have one bad half. It’ll all be fine.....
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Out of interest how are people seeing this?
Pm?
ESPN3 in the US
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The Preston performance is looking something of a false dawn.
Or perhaps this is a false sunset.
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It's not good viewing - I'd take only being 0-2 down at HT if you offered it to me now.
We need to give Snodgrass some support, he just gets isolated and has no option but to run down blind alleys.
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Out of interest how are people seeing this?
Pm?
ESPN3 in the US
Yep
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Extremely poor half this one.
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It's not good viewing - I'd take only being 0-2 down at HT if you offered it to me now.
We need to give Snodgrass some support, he just gets isolated and has no option but to run down blind alleys.
Hogan needs to get in the game. He's completely invisible. He is offering no outlet nor is he creating space for those in behind him. Inexcusable.
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It could be worse Blackburn have just gone behind to Barnet at home.
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Ellmo and Snodgrass starting to look frustrated at the lack of options.
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The optimist in me says it's now set up for a Grealish-inspired comeback story
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Is Snodgrass injured?
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This sort of game is one where Bruce has to earn his wages and get Villa back in the game, but I think he's not an inspirational enough character
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Before the match someone on the TV said Wednesday's manager called Villa the best club in the division. His tactic worked
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The game plan Bruce would have had was tossed in the bin as soon as they scored. We’re not a side that does well chasing the game.
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JT will have to be taken off soon. Oh dear. Hope it's not one of those days where everything unravels.
Sorry to quote myself, I'm just wishing I hadn't said it now Snodgrass in fucking injured too
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Bruce out.
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I don't understand why the formation was changed after being so dominant in midweek?
Is it not patently obvious now that Whelan struggles in a 2 man midfield? Jedinak for Onomah should have been the change.
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Snod off, O'Hare on.
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Good job there’s an international break.
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The game plan Bruce would have had was tossed in the bin as soon as they scored. We’re not a side that does well chasing the game.
Or with losing our best central defender pairing and replaced by Samba,a cue for more goals i think and not by Villa
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I blame the poppies
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Snod doesn't look at all happy.
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A snapped chest for Snod.
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Callum O'Hare coming on. Interesting.
Come on lad!
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FFS just got in and seen the score. May as well turn off you can count good second halves under Bruce on Abu hamza’s hands.
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Bruce is a fucking donkey for selecting Snodgrass when he's injured.
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I have a feeling that the managers post match comments will contain the words tired, games, week, three, in and a.
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Somebody is due for a big thrashing one of these days.
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FFS just got in and seen the score. May as well turn off you can count good second halves under Bruce on Abu hamza’s hands.
I count the point of the hook a digit.
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Somebody is due for a big thrashing one of these days.
Us at this rate.
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JT will have to be taken off soon. Oh dear. Hope it's not one of those days where everything unravels.
Sorry to quote myself, I'm just wishing I hadn't said it now Snodgrass in fucking injured too
It's looking like he was taken off as a tactical sub by Bruce. He is not a happy bunny right now.
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Oh dear.
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Get whelan off for christs sake
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I have a feeling that the managers post match comments will contain the words tired, games, week, three, in and a.
Should probably include: a, I, clueless, idiot and am
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Who has come on for Snodgrass?
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I have a feeling that the managers post match comments will contain the words tired, games, week, three, in and a.
Same circumstances didn't seem to affect Bristol City today
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Who has come on for Snodgrass?
O'Hare
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Re the AVTv non-event , just got this reply to my complaint to AVTV:
Thanks for your email.
Unfortunately, due to EFL Digital broadcasting rights agreements today's fixture is not being broadcast on AVTV.
A schedule of ineligible matches is available here - https://www.efl.com/broadcast-schedule/
Apologies for the inconvenience.
Kind regards,
Jack M
avtvsupport@streamamg.com
So why advertise it as available and accept payment for same ?.....................Godzvilla!
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Somebody is due for a big thrashing one of these days.
I still think there’s a decent player in you somewhere.
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Comfortably second best this half so far, has Hogan touched the ball yet?
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‘We’ve has a horrible one.’
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This half has gone contrary to plan in every possible imaginable way.
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‘We’ve has a horrible one.’
A Bruce motivational half time talk to the lads should see them hold out for a 0-2 result
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bunch of statues out there.
Hogan doesn't mind just letting the game pass him by. I've never seen someone so complacent.
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We are once again a team without a plan.
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I know we've played shit today but booing seems a bit much.
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Bring Hogan on FFS
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Hogan right wing, what the f**k!!
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Everyone has had three games this week so no excuses
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Re the AVTv non-event , just got this reply to my complaint to AVTV:
Thanks for your email.
Unfortunately, due to EFL Digital broadcasting rights agreements today's fixture is not being broadcast on AVTV.
A schedule of ineligible matches is available here - https://www.efl.com/broadcast-schedule/
Apologies for the inconvenience.
Kind regards,
Jack M
avtvsupport@streamamg.com
So why advertise it as available and accept payment for same ?.....................Godzvilla!
I think the Club has been run by amateurs for some time.
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Hogan had the ball by the right touch line early in thr half, passed it to Albert and just stood there. Albert frantically motioned for Hogan to move closer to the goal for a return pass.
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That was the bad half, right??
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Hogan right wing, what the f**k!!
I was thinking the same thing.
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Snodgrass apparently showed dissent at being taking off. I just assumed he was injured given he was a doubt coming into the game.
Paul Franks on his high horse of course with this first half.
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Re the AVTv non-event , just got this reply to my complaint to AVTV:
Thanks for your email.
Unfortunately, due to EFL Digital broadcasting rights agreements today's fixture is not being broadcast on AVTV.
A schedule of ineligible matches is available here - https://www.efl.com/broadcast-schedule/
Apologies for the inconvenience.
Kind regards,
Jack M
avtvsupport@streamamg.com
So why advertise it as available and accept payment for same ?.....................Godzvilla!
Emmm i can't select villa on that list as we are not in ifollow.
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Bring Hogan on FFS
Made me laugh
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I think my cautious optimism earlier on was a tad misplaced. :(
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The shall we sack Bruce after we have been promoted posts were maybe a little premature.
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Snodgrass apparently showed dissent at being taking off. I just assumed he was injured given he was a doubt coming into the game.
Paul Franks on his high horse of course with this first half.
And so he should. No one could argue with being taken off. To take him off and out Hogan wise right makes the square root of fuck all sense.
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I am going out to buy some wholemeal loaves during the second half.
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How do they think these things up? Over a pint using salt and pepper cellars putting Hogan on the right.
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442 ain't working anyway. Movement from front two, Hogan particularly is non existent. Hourihane far too passive in possession, Whelan miles off the pace. Two wide men anonymous, although a big call to whip his big signing Snodgrass off before half time.
Might aswell bring Grealish on for Hogan. 4231 with Adamoah, O'Hare and Grealish as the 3 supporting Davis. Wed look very organised to be fair
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I cant believe Samba is on, he can barely walk. Why not move Hutton into the centre and bring Taylor on.
Were going to lose this 3 or4 nil Awful from Bruce
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Just got home. What has happened??
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How do they think these things up? Over a pint using salt and pepper cellars putting Hogan on the right.
It all makes sense with manic mushrooms.
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Just got home. What has happened??
2-0 down Terry off injured, Snodgrass off for being shite. That’s all.
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Just got home. What has happened??
Wednesday picked us off at will. They are highly organised, we are once again like a team that met in the car park 10 minutes before kick off.
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4-2, we're gonna win 4-2, we're gonna win 4-2
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We seem to be losing to a lot of teams with fruity foreigners for managers.
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Bruce is a donkey. No need to start with two upfront, no need to start Snodgrass when yesterday you told us he's got a hip problem and no need to keep playing Hutton at LB.
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Just got home. What has happened??
Wednesday picked us off at will. They are highly organised, we are once again like a team that met in the car park 10 minutes before kick off.
So not much chance of pulling this around second half?
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But Bruce is the saviour now apparently.
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Nice cross from Davis, and decent header from Adomah.
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Just got home. What has happened??
Broken English has gone out to purchase some wholemeal loaves.
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Just got home. What has happened??
Wednesday picked us off at will. They are highly organised, we are once again like a team that met in the car park 10 minutes before kick off.
So not much chance of pulling this around second half?
Based on the first half, none what-so-ever. I'd be surprised if Wednesday don't score a couple more.
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Corner.
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How is Hogan doing?
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How is Hogan doing?
He’s coming on soon.
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Much better opening 5 minutes.
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Hutton(dressedasLahmhahahaoohmepoorsides) and Adomah are linking well on the left. Another corner.
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Good run from Hogan, no end product though.
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Hogan touches the ball. And loses it.
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Just got home. What has happened??
Broken English has gone out to purchase some wholemeal loaves.
Better get some fish while he’s at it and then hope for a miracle
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We’re all over them this half so far. Get a goal now and they’ll shit themselves.
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It's good to see us come out & have a go after h/t. Get one back early-doors & anything could happen. Possibly.
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Much better opening 5 minutes.
Cue Wednesday with their third
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This would be a terrible result to go into the international break with.
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Two defeats in 13 wouldn’t be terrible.
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5 of them couldn't get the ball off KD then.
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Need a goal now with this pressure, UTV!
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The only good news so far is it seems everybody else has shit the bed today.
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I'm feeling a pen, 1-2, a Hourihane skimmer from just outside the box and O'Hare to grab the winner with a back heel.
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Problem is we're nearly an hour into the game and we've hardly created any chances apart from the Snodgrass shot.
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This would be a terrible result to go into the international break with.
As it stands we will still be 5th. A lot of teams around us having bad days too
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Two defeats in 13 wouldn’t be terrible.
2 in 5 ain’t promotion form.
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Two defeats in 13 wouldn’t be terrible.
The thing is we don't play great after the International break so this game was important.
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This ****** is only injured bc of his dive. Fuck off.
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We're not getting anything here.
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I'd take Hogan off and bring jack on.
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Get up yeh cheating ****** Wallace
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Timewasting cnuts.
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He should've been sent off for that tackle on Davis anyway.
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Need to go 3 at the back for the last 20 odd.
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Fucking rubbish.
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Need to go 3 at the back for the last 20 odd.
We need a #10.
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Davis has not put himself about at all today. Thought he'd be full of beans after midweek.
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Yay, a shot!
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I'm waiting for rim gk to invade the pitch and punch a Wednesday player or the ref.
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Hogan and McCormack. Dreadful signings. Jack on.
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#prayforvilla
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Who’s Jack on for?
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Samba by name, Samba by magic feet.
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God this is frustrating.
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One of those days. The bubble was burst from their opening goal and we just never got into it.
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You just knew we'd never fight back.
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We really don't seem to have much of an idea how to create anything today.
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Seems some twat threw something at Bannan.
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Flat and bland. I guess it’s going to happen every so often. We’ve done well for a few months. Need to come back after the break and start another run. Write today off as frustrating as it is.
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Seems some twat threw something at Bannan.
We only grass on nonces.
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Seems some twat threw something at Bannan.
You have to be a complete wanker to do that. Life ban if he/she is identified I hope.
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We really don't seem to have much of an idea how to create anything today.
Whelan and Hourihane just can't turn the key. Wingers can't get around their defender to the end line. Keinan's hold up play has been pretty poor. As for Hogan, well, he's been him usual self.
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We can’t afford to have ‘one of those days’. If we want to go up we need to be fucking ruthless, instead we are still very,very fragile.
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Flat and bland. I guess it’s going to happen every so often. We’ve done well for a few months. Need to come back after the break and start another run. Write today off as frustrating as it is.
We never recover from losing positions under Bruce.
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Jack on soon.
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Davis' touch has been terrible. Not sure why he tampered with the formation. Surely if JO was out then bring someone in to do his job. We've looked well short in midfield and have let Bannan run the show.
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Sheff united take the lead
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A loss today Should be unacceptable.
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Shouldn't be allowed on the pitch with a helmet
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You just knew we'd never fight back.
I think that's the one key thing that we still lack, fight and determination when up against it. If we can swagger around half arsed teams with our superior quality that's one thing, we saw it on Wednesday and in some other recent games but we don't like it 'up us' unfortunately. This has to be sorted very quickly. Losing a few key players is also still a big problem and makes a huge difference. With Kodjia, Terry and Jedinak all out we're also rans at best.
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Jack on for Mr Whelan
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Grealish comin in for Whelan
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Seems some twat threw something at Bannan.
You have to be a complete wanker to do that. Life ban if he/she is identified I hope.
that being the case I hope it was Steve Bruce.
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Samba up front
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Jack on soon.
not likely to be a game changing substitution, just a Bruce aimless throw of the dice
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Samba up front
Fucking hell, I thought you were joking.
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JFC how was that a foul on Samba?
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Should have been 3-0
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What a miss.
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Seems some twat threw something at Bannan.
You have to be a complete wanker to do that. Life ban if he/she is identified I hope.
that being the case I hope it was Steve Bruce.
Made me titter at least...
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Goalmouth scramble but they clear it
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Samba up front
It’s this out of the box thinking that shows Bruce as the master tactician, footballing genius that we keep being told he is.
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Seems some twat threw something at Bannan.
You have to be a complete wanker to do that. Life ban if he/she is identified I hope.
that being the case I hope it was Steve Bruce.
;)
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Seems some twat threw something at Bannan.
Life ban if he/she is identified I hope.
That sort of behaviour should not be rewarded.
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Samba up front
Bruce you are truly a useless knobber
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This completely ruins the good work done in the week. Disappointing but unfortunately also half expected I'm afraid.
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Sheff united take the lead
We're losing to both Sheffield clubs now. Bruce out!
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At least SHA are in the bottom 3 now.
Seems like the break is coming at a good time.
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Not a good result but no overreactions necessary Wednesday will be challenging.
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KD 'goal' disallowed for handball.
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Not a good result but no overreactions necessary Wednesday will be challenging.
They will if they play us every week. Let’s not forget SHA beat this lot.
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True. But we’re doing okay overall. Automatic looks a long shot though.
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6 mins added
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Sheffield United are 4-1 up.
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Not a good result but no overreactions necessary Wednesday will be challenging.
They will if they play us every week. Let’s not forget SHA beat this lot.
It's not just the defeat, it's how little we've created against a side that have been crap away from home.
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Chester should have scored
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True. But we’re doing okay overall. Automatic looks a long shot though.
Today shows Villa are not consistent enough, especially when the other side play decent football and press us.
Bruce seems unable to change his tactics if Plan A fails
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SAMBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Goal
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Makes it worse, predictable.
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Samba up front
Bruce you are truly a useless knobber
Don't you just hate it when you comment too soon.