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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: dave.woodhall on October 15, 2017, 10:46:13 PM

Title: Press-ed back. Again.
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 15, 2017, 10:46:13 PM
http://thebirminghampress.com/2017/10/the-local-un-derby/
Title: Re: Press-ed back. Again.
Post by: WarszaVillan on October 16, 2017, 05:36:12 AM
You've written sorry instead of worry in the fourth para
Title: Re: Press-ed back. Again.
Post by: eamonn on October 16, 2017, 08:23:34 AM
I thought it was intentional
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Post by: darren woolley on October 16, 2017, 09:42:27 AM
Another good read Dave.
Title: Re: Press-ed back. Again.
Post by: paul_e on October 16, 2017, 09:48:45 AM
The penultimate paragraph is the important bit, specifically the line about learning from such setbacks.  That's what really worries me, Bruce has been through this time and again with us and with other teams and he doesn't seem to have learned that letting a team dominate you for the first hour is a recipe for disaster.
Title: Re: Press-ed back. Again.
Post by: Diablo on October 16, 2017, 02:02:53 PM
On that subject, can anyone think of the games that Bruce has made a successful tactical change that has worked and got us a positive result?
Title: Re: Press-ed back. Again.
Post by: PeterWithe on October 16, 2017, 03:40:49 PM
With regard to the ownership of the Wolves players, what is being mooted?

They do seem to have a few players whom you would have thought would have had far better offers than a season in the Black Country.
Title: Re: Press-ed back. Again.
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 16, 2017, 09:31:36 PM
With regard to the ownership of the Wolves players, what is being mooted?

They do seem to have a few players whom you would have thought would have had far better offers than a season in the Black Country.

Haven't they got some connection with a Portugese agent?
Title: Re: Press-ed back. Again.
Post by: PeterWithe on October 17, 2017, 01:52:16 PM
Mendes is their 'football consultant' but Wolves have to own the players if they are not to fall foul of the third party ownership laws.

Even the tatters of my acquaintance aren't sure why some of the players are playing for them rather than in some of the top leagues.
Title: Re: Press-ed back. Again.
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on October 17, 2017, 03:10:36 PM
Mendes is their 'football consultant' but Wolves have to own the players if they are not to fall foul of the third party ownership laws.

Even the tatters of my acquaintance aren't sure why some of the players are playing for them rather than in some of the top leagues.

Most are on loan. Only Jota is a class above but at 20 he's probably getting some experience of another country/league. For all the talk about Wolves spending a fortune, they only spent £15.5m in the summer.

Mendes probably gets a very handsome monthly fee from Wolves with 7 or 8 figure bonus if they get promoted to the Premiership.
Title: Re: Press-ed back. Again.
Post by: Diablo on October 17, 2017, 03:49:23 PM
Mendes is their 'football consultant' but Wolves have to own the players if they are not to fall foul of the third party ownership laws.

Even the tatters of my acquaintance aren't sure why some of the players are playing for them rather than in some of the top leagues.


Most are on loan. Only Jota is a class above but at 20 he's probably getting some experience of another country/league. For all the talk about Wolves spending a fortune, they only spent £15.5m in the summer.

Mendes probably gets a very handsome monthly fee from Wolves with 7 or 8 figure bonus if they get promoted to the Premiership.

Hmmm... I wonder if their decision to  get rid of Lambert and side with Mendes was correct?
Title: Re: Press-ed back. Again.
Post by: ChicagoLion on October 17, 2017, 06:06:30 PM
Not buying into the idea that Wolves have somehow turned into footballing gods, they were well organised, looked fit and had a couple of decent players.
with Jota the best on view, given the freedom of the park.
Title: Re: Press-ed back. Again.
Post by: Clampy on October 17, 2017, 06:09:30 PM
Not buying into the idea that Wolves have somehow turned into footballing gods, they were well organised, looked fit and had a couple of decent players.
with Jota the best on view, given the freedom of the park.


Footballing gods? No-one has said that have they? They were just better than us on the day, way better.
Title: Re: Press-ed back. Again.
Post by: ez on October 17, 2017, 07:41:44 PM
On that subject, can anyone think of the games that Bruce has made a successful tactical change that has worked and got us a positive result?

When Gabby came on against blues. That's about it.
Title: Re: Press-ed back. Again.
Post by: ChicagoLion on October 17, 2017, 10:16:07 PM
Not buying into the idea that Wolves have somehow turned into footballing gods, they were well organised, looked fit and had a couple of decent players.
with Jota the best on view, given the freedom of the park.


Footballing gods? No-one has said that have they? They were just better than us on the day, way better.
Yes I have seen making out they were very special, I don’t think they are, it’s just that we were crap, which we are under a Bruce against a decent team.
Title: Re: Press-ed back. Again.
Post by: AVH87 on October 17, 2017, 10:35:03 PM
Not buying into the idea that Wolves have somehow turned into footballing gods, they were well organised, looked fit and had a couple of decent players.
with Jota the best on view, given the freedom of the park.


Footballing gods? No-one has said that have they? They were just better than us on the day, way better.
Yes I have seen making out they were very special, I don’t think they are, it’s just that we were crap, which we are under a Bruce against a decent team.

For this standard, Costa, Neves and Jota are footballing gods.
Title: Re: Press-ed back. Again.
Post by: Diablo on October 18, 2017, 12:53:21 AM
On that subject, can anyone think of the games that Bruce has made a successful tactical change that has worked and got us a positive result?

When Gabby came on against blues. That's about it.
Of course! It feels so long ago but yeah great shout
Title: Re: Press-ed back. Again.
Post by: Brend'Watkins on October 18, 2017, 06:30:40 AM
On that subject, can anyone think of the games that Bruce has made a successful tactical change that has worked and got us a positive result?

When Gabby came on against blues. That's about it.
Of course! It feels so long ago but yeah great shout

The Indian sign tactic?


Title: Re: Press-ed back. Again.
Post by: Matt Collins on October 18, 2017, 06:44:12 AM
I thought Wolves were comfortably the best side I've seen us play in the championship, notwithstanding our ooor performance

The quality of movement and passing was way better than I saw from Brighton or Newcastle against us last season for example
Title: Re: Press-ed back. Again.
Post by: old man villa fan on October 18, 2017, 06:57:54 AM
On that subject, can anyone think of the games that Bruce has made a successful tactical change that has worked and got us a positive result?

When Gabby came on against blues. That's about it.
Of course! It feels so long ago but yeah great shout

The Indian sign tactic?

The equivalent of pissing against the corner flags.
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