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Title: Villa things I don't miss from years gone by
Post by: wittonwarrior on September 21, 2017, 07:51:35 PM
My villa life began in Division 2 so  I can't add  Division  3 to my list but near goes:

1. Away games,  far from the WM with only a handful of supporters on occasions cue: Leeds , Middlesborugh etc.
2. Having to send cheques and requests in the post for tickets
3. Jam packed in the Aston Tavern
4. Postponed games when you were on the journey, (Bolton ,  Spurs for example at Villa  Park and what  was worse the likes of Everton away when you were travelling  all the way from London)
5. Trips to places like Nottingham where you were penned in at the station for what seemed ages having arrived on the special.
6. 2nd replays although we always did well out of them
7. Leyton Orient promotion game in 74 - no not us but them with a change of promotion (Vic Crowe's last game) at least I got on the pitch
8. Leeds and  their stupid sock tabs, and there wave to the crowd.
9.  Being too young to travel to Antwerp
10.  Bogs of pitches such as the Baseball ground, mind you late 70's ours  was not much better

Title: Re: Villa things I don't miss from years gone by
Post by: TheTimVilla on September 21, 2017, 07:57:14 PM
11. Bacuna
Title: Re: Villa things I don't miss from years gone by
Post by: Damo70 on September 21, 2017, 08:00:20 PM
My villa life began in Division 2 so  I can't add  Division  3 to my list but near goes:

1. Away games,  far from the WM with only a handful of supporters on occasions cue: Leeds , Middlesborugh etc.
2. Having to send cheques and requests in the post for tickets
3. Jam packed in the Aston Tavern
4. Postponed games when you were on the journey, (Bolton ,  Spurs for example at Villa  Park and what  was worse the likes of Everton away when you were travelling  all the way from London)
5. Trips to places like Nottingham where you were penned in at the station for what seemed ages having arrived on the special.
6. 2nd replays although we always did well out of them
7. Leyton Orient promotion game in 74 - no not us but them with a change of promotion (Vic Crowe's last game) at least I got on the pitch
8. Leeds and  their stupid sock tabs, and there wave to the crowd.
9.  Being too young to travel to Antwerp
10.  Bogs of pitches such as the Baseball ground, mind you late 70's ours  was not much better



Postponed games when you don't know until you arrive to see the sign outside Loftus Road or when a barman in a pub near Old Trafford tells you. Not getting into a league cup quarter final at West Ham and wondering around the charming local area for ninety minutes. Not  even being allowed to wonder around the charming local area as Nottingham as the local police were clearly trying to keep crime levels down by encouraging people to take up trainspotting.
Title: Re: Villa things I don't miss from years gone by
Post by: class-of-82 on September 21, 2017, 08:13:13 PM
the walk from cov station to the ground it must of been 5 miles

that poxy liitle corner they tried to cram us into at filbert street till they realised 5-6 thousand isn't going to fit in it

that's about it to be honest I miss the old days so much
Title: Re: Villa things I don't miss from years gone by
Post by: Damo70 on September 21, 2017, 08:17:51 PM
the walk from cov station to the ground it must of been 5 miles

that poxy liitle corner they tried to cram us into at filbert street till they realised 5-6 thousand isn't going to fit in it

that's about it to be honest I miss the old days so much



The queue to get into the x rated adult shop round the corner was always longer than the queue to get into Highfield Road.
Title: Re: Villa things I don't miss from years gone by
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on September 21, 2017, 08:35:38 PM
Despite having to watch your back and a general assumption by the police that any football fan under the age of 30 was probably a hooligan, I loved the old days. The 3rd division were the happiest days of my life as a Villa fan.

If I can try a think of a few I would say. 
1) Playing Wimbledon, home or away.
2) Seeing Villa players careers as good as finished in Albion games
3) Monkey chants/Bananas.
4) The cage at The Dell
5) Hodge
6) Exiting the away end at Old Trafford
7) Everything about Dirty Leeds
8)The away section on the side terrace at Maine Road
Title: Re: Villa things I don't miss from years gone by
Post by: wittonwarrior on September 21, 2017, 08:57:46 PM
The Dell what a dump - how they got away with the cage even in days before H&S is beyond  me.  Mind you I  went there one year  night game and the side paddock was  also a  poxy  view.

Leicester corner should  have waited outside until it was full and then escorted to the other end.  The only time I think I stood in that corner was the week before wembley in 77.

Would  definitely agree about the Kippax away section twice in 76 (the second time the night game)

Leeds was as  bad as OT for coming out the ground.
Title: Re: Villa things I don't miss from years gone by
Post by: Damo70 on September 21, 2017, 09:04:03 PM
Despite having to watch your back and a general assumption by the police that any football fan under the age of 30 was probably a hooligan, I loved the old days. The 3rd division were the happiest days of my life as a Villa fan.

If I can try a think of a few I would say. 
1) Playing Wimbledon, home or away.
2) Seeing Villa players careers as good as finished in Albion games
3) Monkey chants/Bananas.
4) The cage at The Dell
5) Hodge
6) Exiting the away end at Old Trafford
7) Everything about Dirty Leeds
8)The away section on the side terrace at Maine Road



I only ended up on the Maine Road side terrace once. Just before Christmas in BFR's first season. All the other times I was on the benches in the Platt Lane stand behind the goal. Or on the pitch. But that was just for David Bowie gigs.
Title: Re: Villa things I don't miss from years gone by
Post by: dave shelley on September 21, 2017, 09:14:33 PM
The rain in Halifax.
Title: Re: Villa things I don't miss from years gone by
Post by: Holte132 on September 21, 2017, 09:33:21 PM
Having to get to the ground before the turnstiles opened so that I could be one of the first into the Holte End to secure my favourite spot - behind the goal and one step up from the walkway so that nobody would be standing in front of me! At only 5 feet 2 inches this was important!
Title: Re: Villa things I don't miss from years gone by
Post by: passport1 on September 21, 2017, 10:06:27 PM
Jimmy Sirrel
Title: Re: Villa things I don't miss from years gone by
Post by: Damo70 on September 21, 2017, 10:11:31 PM
The rain in Halifax.


In my case it was the rain in Huddersfield. Yorkshire must have a monsoon season.
Title: Re: Villa things I don't miss from years gone by
Post by: Damo70 on September 21, 2017, 10:13:13 PM
Jimmy Sirrel


Looked like a cross between a gargoyle and Yoda. The world's oldest professional league club had the world's oldest manager.
Title: Re: Villa things I don't miss from years gone by
Post by: Damo70 on September 21, 2017, 10:18:52 PM
The 'ginnel' on the way in and out of The Manor Ground, Oxford.

The Manor Ground Oxford.

Oxford United.


Travelling to Selhurst Park for games against Palace.

Travelling to Selhurst Park for games against Charlton.

Travelling to Selhurst Park games against Wimbledon.
Title: Re: Villa things I don't miss from years gone by
Post by: FrankyH on September 21, 2017, 11:28:30 PM
Standing on the Holte and getting a whiff of one of those god awful farts that could make you gag.
Title: Re: Villa things I don't miss from years gone by
Post by: richtheholtender on September 21, 2017, 11:32:04 PM
1. Man united in the FA Cup spell
2. Liverpool away losing 3-0 spell
3. Being 2-0 up and losing 3-2 again mainly to man united
4. Always being one player short of being a top side
5. Mark Bosnich kicking it straight out for a throw in.
Title: Re: Villa things I don't miss from years gone by
Post by: ajmant on September 22, 2017, 11:46:46 AM
Luton Town on the plastic pitch
Coventry City
Robbie Fowler (loved us didn't he)
Ian Wright (loved us also)

Title: Re: Villa things I don't miss from years gone by
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on September 22, 2017, 12:07:22 PM
Standing on the Holte and getting a whiff of one of those god awful farts that could make you gag.

Realising you're standing in piss as somebody decided they couldn't be bothered to walk down to the bogs on the Holte.
The bogs in the Witton and Holte End. They were literally bogs.

Plod at almost every away game. Special mention to Merseyside Police with their big sticks and partial methods.
Title: Re: Villa things I don't miss from years gone by
Post by: levico on September 22, 2017, 12:37:04 PM
Standing - anywhere
Paddling in 4 inches of urine in a Norwich gents
Selhurst Park
Driving all the way to Leeds in torrential rain to hear that the match had been postponed
Scuffles at Coventry and Maine Rd
Leaving my car near Maine Rd
1 hour queue to get out of the 'Asda' car park
Losing 5-0 to Man City
Conceding 6 or 7 to Chelsea
Title: Re: Villa things I don't miss from years gone by
Post by: B38 Villa on September 22, 2017, 12:43:18 PM
Luton Town on the plastic pitch
Coventry City
Robbie Fowler (loved us didn't he)
Ian Wright (loved us also)

Add Michael Owen to that list
Title: Re: Villa things I don't miss from years gone by
Post by: dave shelley on September 22, 2017, 01:08:06 PM
Cornalties...hopefully.
Title: Re: Villa things I don't miss from years gone by
Post by: West Derby Villan on September 22, 2017, 01:08:50 PM
Luton Town on the plastic pitch
Coventry City
Robbie Fowler (loved us didn't he)
Ian Wright (loved us also)

Add Michael Owen to that list

And Matt Le Tissier
Title: Re: Villa things I don't miss from years gone by
Post by: Des Little on September 22, 2017, 01:15:10 PM
Absolutely every single aspect of Coventry
Open away ends in the rain
Standing on the Holte and dropping those god awful farts  that made people gag and no one knew it was me
Title: Re: Villa things I don't miss from years gone by
Post by: Godfrey Brian on September 22, 2017, 04:28:59 PM
Scarf robbers.
West Ham where they moved the away coaches during the game so you were left wandering the streets trying to find them again.
The pies they used to sell on The Holte
The crush to get in at The Albion.
"Have you got the time mate?" at every away  ground.
Trips back on winter soccer specials that would suddenly stop in darkness in the middle of nowhere for ages. 
Title: Re: Villa things I don't miss from years gone by
Post by: West Derby Villan on September 22, 2017, 04:55:34 PM
Anfield visit
When you were kept in Lime Street station until KO time. Bussed to the ground and dropped off outside the Kop, so we had to walk around the ground to the Anfield Road entrance, wasting more time. Then greeted by the Bizzies with night sticks and at about 3:30 getting inside the ground where we were welcomed by the Annie road mob at the top of the stairs, oh happy days
Title: Re: Villa things I don't miss from years gone by
Post by: Richard E on September 22, 2017, 04:56:44 PM
Anfield visit
When you were kept in Lime Street station until KO time. Bussed to the ground and dropped off outside the Kop, so we had to walk around the ground to the Anfield Road entrance, wasting more time. Then greeted by the Bizzies with night sticks and at about 3:30 getting inside the ground where we were welcomed by the Annie road mob at the top of the stairs, oh happy days

The first time I went to Anfield we were walked from Lime Street to the ground, none of this luxury bus nonsense!
Title: Re: Villa things I don't miss from years gone by
Post by: West Derby Villan on September 22, 2017, 05:01:21 PM
Anfield visit
When you were kept in Lime Street station until KO time. Bussed to the ground and dropped off outside the Kop, so we had to walk around the ground to the Anfield Road entrance, wasting more time. Then greeted by the Bizzies with night sticks and at about 3:30 getting inside the ground where we were welcomed by the Annie road mob at the top of the stairs, oh happy days


The first time I went to Anfield we were walked from Lime Street to the ground, none of this luxury bus nonsense!


Ha ha, When I said bus I meant.......
Title: Re: Villa things I don't miss from years gone by
Post by: kiddylion on September 22, 2017, 05:57:28 PM
Luton Town on the plastic pitch
Coventry City
Robbie Fowler (loved us didn't he)
Ian Wright (loved us also)

Add Michael Owen to that list

And Matt Le Tissier



Add David White
Title: Re: Villa things I don't miss from years gone by
Post by: olaftab on September 22, 2017, 06:02:20 PM
Fellow fans pissing on the spot where they stood in the Holte End.
Title: Re: Villa things I don't miss from years gone by
Post by: West Derby Villan on September 22, 2017, 06:09:01 PM
Losing stuff on the Holte during "knees up mother Brown"
Title: Re: Villa things I don't miss from years gone by
Post by: olaftab on September 22, 2017, 06:12:16 PM
Being pushed down about 20 terrace steps  everytime there was a goal or even a near miss.
Title: Re: Villa things I don't miss from years gone by
Post by: dave shelley on September 22, 2017, 07:09:22 PM
Being pushed down about 20 terrace steps  everytime there was a goal or even a near miss.

And then everyone turning around and grinning like Cheshire Cats as they made their way back to their starting positions.
Title: Re: Villa things I don't miss from years gone by
Post by: wittonwarrior on September 22, 2017, 09:13:11 PM
Specials arriving late sheff wed and Norwich

The cage on the specials urggggh

Losing to Ipswich

Len cantello

The villa bingo card - will win on the next one

Rushing from the ground to catch the last train for London night games - I missed both our goals v Barca UEFA cup

One thing I don't miss though is my £10 junior season ticket
Title: Re: Villa things I don't miss from years gone by
Post by: FrankyH on September 22, 2017, 09:25:19 PM
Absolutely every single aspect of Coventry
Open away ends in the rain
Standing on the Holte and dropping those god awful farts  that made people gag and no one knew it was me

Take a bow son !!!
Title: Re: Villa things I don't miss from years gone by
Post by: olaftab on September 22, 2017, 10:13:02 PM
There is no opposite of this thread about things we do miss. I miss the free busses  from Dale End to Church Road. It was this easy travel to VP that probably cemented my resolve to be at VP for every home game.
Title: Re: Villa things I don't miss from years gone by
Post by: tomd2103 on September 22, 2017, 11:23:20 PM
Having your retinas burnt every time you looked at the old AV floodlights. 
Title: Re: Villa things I don't miss from years gone by
Post by: West Derby Villan on September 23, 2017, 12:36:29 AM
Having your retinas burnt every time you looked at the old AV floodlights.

Glory Glory Aston Villa......sorry wrong thread.........but I don't care.......I loved them there floodlights !
Title: Re: Villa things I don't miss from years gone by
Post by: UK Redsox on September 23, 2017, 10:26:22 AM
the tacky half time entertainment
Title: Re: Villa things I don't miss from years gone by
Post by: Rotterdam on September 23, 2017, 11:10:04 AM
Police horses helpfully herding us along and the need to dodge piles of horse shit. This was particularly tricky while leaving busy night fixtures as the dark and volume on foot traffic meant the giant turds were on you in an instant. If you were lucky, they would be well trodden down.
Title: Re: Villa things I don't miss from years gone by
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on September 24, 2017, 08:15:43 AM
The old Serpentine car park before it was tarmacced over for the short lived supermarket.
A brief shower and it was 50 yard detours in the mud around the small lakes that formed.   
Title: Re: Villa things I don't miss from years gone by
Post by: oldtimernow on September 24, 2017, 08:29:57 AM
Running down the bank of the old Witton End at the end of the match, trying to stay upright and not falling over like in the Coopers Hill cheese race.
Title: Re: Villa things I don't miss from years gone by
Post by: andyaston on September 28, 2017, 09:01:28 PM
Like someone said earlier those horrible farts that used to waft across the Holte. Saying that in those days people were drinking shite bitter and mild.
Title: Re: Villa things I don't miss from years gone by
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on September 28, 2017, 09:06:17 PM
Kinsella

Coventry being in the top flight

Not being able to beat Blues
Title: Re: Villa things I don't miss from years gone by
Post by: four fornicholl on September 28, 2017, 09:14:06 PM
A  dozen or so blokes trying to flog you the H & V fanzine at strategic points around the ground. ;D
Title: Re: Villa things I don't miss from years gone by
Post by: dave shelley on September 28, 2017, 09:33:22 PM
Paddling in three inches of tea/coffee/Bovril in the old tea room at the back of the old Witton End pre-North Stand.  I often recall it and the times I used to go in there with my old man prior to kick-off.
Title: Re: Villa things I don't miss from years gone by
Post by: Des Little on September 28, 2017, 11:09:39 PM
Like someone said earlier those horrible farts that used to waft across the Holte. Saying that in those days people were drinking shite bitter and mild.

I don't know if you travel away or not, but trust me those farts are still very much part of the 'matchday experience'

I should know...
Title: Re: Villa things I don't miss from years gone by
Post by: Damo70 on September 29, 2017, 01:05:55 PM
Kinsella

Coventry being in the top flight

Not being able to beat Blues



I won't accept any criticism of Coventry. I like them purely for the fact that they stayed up at the expense of Small Heath in hilarious circumstances in 1984 (and I'm guessing stayed up at Small Heath's expense on other occasions since they both spent the best part of twenty years, on and off in Small Heath's case trying to survive.)

And did us the courtesy of not beating us for years and finally letting us be the team who teased them and then finally relegated them.
Title: Re: Villa things I don't miss from years gone by
Post by: andyaston on October 02, 2017, 02:57:13 PM
Like someone said earlier those horrible farts that used to waft across the Holte. Saying that in those days people were drinking shite bitter and mild.

I don't know if you travel away or not, but trust me those farts are still very much part of the 'matchday experience'

I should know...
Used to go away a lot in the 90s but circumstances mean i've prob forgotten the away match experience of drunken twats not watching the game and the farts that would drift across the stands.
Title: Re: Villa things I don't miss from years gone by
Post by: BegbieAV on October 02, 2017, 07:15:58 PM
The dying fly
Title: Re: Villa things I don't miss from years gone by
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on October 06, 2017, 02:04:10 PM
Trying to get to Thornton Heath for a 3pm kick off.
Title: Re: Villa things I don't miss from years gone by
Post by: Hodgie on October 06, 2017, 05:14:01 PM
Away to QPR in the League Cup - Nasty.  The compliment was returned the following Wednesday.

Being 3-0 down at Watford on Boxing Day and following the half time goodwill messages on the screen by shouting "Merry Christmas to Watford from Nigel Spink" - hilarious.

The team not turning up v Chelsea in the FA Cup Final.

Glasgow Rangers at VP.

Getting to VP on a cold, wet Friday night to find the match v Sheff. Utd. has been postponed.

My first match at VP and seeing us lose 2-1 to The Cobblers.

The fence dividing The Holte end (standing-only days).

Being thrown out of the kids queue 'cos I looked older than I was.

On the plus side I liked the additional match before kick off (Stanley Star) and Theme from an Unmade Movie.

Title: Re: Villa things I don't miss from years gone by
Post by: dcdavecollett on October 09, 2017, 06:35:42 PM
I went to that Cobblers game! It was well-named.

Their winner came from a forty-yard free-kick that stand-in 'keeper John Gavan missed on its flight into the net.

Awful!!
Title: Re: Villa things I don't miss from years gone by
Post by: montague on October 09, 2017, 08:43:59 PM
Sitting on the number 11 for what seemed like hours
Title: Re: Villa things I don't miss from years gone by
Post by: Canadian Villa on October 18, 2017, 04:12:55 PM
Trying to get to Thornton Heath for a 3pm kick off.

I used to work at Selhurst depot and often went to a Weatherspoons opposite Thornton Heath station. Hated the area with a passion. I lived in Brighton for a while and change in environment in the space of 30 minutes train journey was incredible.
Title: Re: Villa things I don't miss from years gone by
Post by: SteveN on October 18, 2017, 05:45:38 PM
Trying to get to Thornton Heath for a 3pm kick off.

I used to work at Selhurst depot and often went to a Weatherspoons opposite Thornton Heath station. Hated the area with a passion. I lived in Brighton for a while and change in environment in the space of 30 minutes train journey was incredible.

You should have gone 100 yards to the left to the Railway Telegraph, a great pub.
Lived in Thornton Heath back in the 70s, you did get used to it.
Title: Re: Villa things I don't miss from years gone by
Post by: OzVilla on October 20, 2017, 12:24:37 PM
Short shorts that literally hung just below your nads.  Look ridiculous now when you view 80's footage.

As you get older you thank McGrath the longer style has remained in vogue as its the only Villa kit item I'd regularly still purchase.
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