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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: PeterWithesShin on September 20, 2017, 01:54:36 PM
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Villa Park, Saturday 23rd September. KO 5.30.
1-1.
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4-1 Villa. Like shelling peas.
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2-0. Kodjia brace.
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If anyone thinks this forum can get a bit "Rita Hayworth" at times, it will be nothing compared to the "mass hysteria" if we don't get a result.
I don't think we will, but then I went to Barnsley with no hope either so you never know do you?
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Just win the game, fed up with it all to be honest. Dont like Bruce, didnt want Bruce, but its getting me down, so win!!!!!
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Win the game or go please Steve.
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2-0.
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1-1. Huff and puff.
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I'm going 1-1 also
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3-0. Davis kodjia and hourihane
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1-1
If we lose, I'd make the change, same as it was against Barnsley. He should have to get min 7 points before the international break otherwise he should go, if we lose this one it will then be an impossibility.
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2-0 Kodjia, Terry.
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Even this early in the season, the next few games are massive. 7 or 9 points and we're right up there, on an 8 game unbeaten run and winning games. Confidence up for going into a tricky run and other sides will be worrying about us. 4 or less and we'll probably be in the bottom 6 with a new manager and starting again.
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A thumping 5-0 win. Goals for Kodjia x2, Chester, Elmo and Terry. But then I've taken a little extra medication to get me through my night shift.
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A thumping 5-0 win. Goals for Kodjia x2, Chester, Elmo and Terry. But then I've taken a little extra medication to get me through my night shift.
What do you take? I could do with some for my upcoming night shifts. ;)
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1-1
If we lose, I'd make the change, same as it was against Barnsley. He should have to get min 7 points before the international break otherwise he should go, if we lose this one it will then be an impossibility.
Agreed. We need consistent improvement now or it just wont happen.
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A thumping 5-0 win. Goals for Kodjia x2, Chester, Elmo and Terry. But then I've taken a little extra medication to get me through my night shift.
What do you take? I could do with some for my upcoming night shifts. ;)
A thumping 5-0 win. Goals for Kodjia x2, Chester, Elmo and Terry. But then I've taken a little extra medication to get me through my night shift.
I can't imagine Villa ever scoring five goals in a season, sorry match, ever again.
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Another game on Sky?! Nailed on Brucey bore draw then. 1-1.
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Another game on Sky?! Nailed on Brucey bore draw then. 1-1.
You mean like last saturday?
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I thought we won 3-0 ;)
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2-1. I think we will win our next two home games against Forest and Bolton and win or draw away to Burton.
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I thought we won 3-0 ;)
Very good.
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I was going to say Forest were an unpredictable side but to be fair the whole division we are in is usually the least predictable of the four.
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Can see them scoring late on. 0-1.
Bye Steve.
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The end for Bruce. 2-1 defeat. Boos around Villa Park.
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1-1
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I reckon we'll click and thump them 7-0.
They'll even have to put (Seven) after the number just to confirm for everyone.
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Draw. I am not going. I am fucking off to the seaside instead.
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Must win for Bruce.
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If we get off to the fast start then I think we will get something because the crowd will get behind us and I don't think Forest are that fantastic. But if we give them breathing space early they will settle into their passing game and give us issues. Forest to win 1-2. Kodja for us.
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I was confident we'd beat Brentford so I'll just wait and see
I presume we'll play the same lineup as Barnsley - we have to really
442 does mean we might cede a bit of possession - you're trading that for extra goal threat when you do have the ball. I can see the crowd getting frustrated
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0-0
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1 - 1 snoozefest
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2-0 win. Kodija and hourihane
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It's a shame it's not Forest first team being fisted by Chelsea tonight.
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Win. He stays. Draw or lose he goes. Simple
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2-1 win.
It was daylight robbery Forest getting a draw here last year (game imo that did for RDM not to hold on to the comeback win).
They've started the season well and have some good players but think we'll do just enough in our own unique style.
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Snodgrass, Adomah, Davis and Kodjia should have too much for these. They're pretty shamobilic at set pieces too so hopefully Davis to bag another.
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Notts Forest eh ?
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Draw. I am not going. I am fucking off to the seaside instead.
I'll be absent as well. Liverpool PsychFest
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Draw. I am not going. I am fucking off to the seaside instead.
I'll be absent as well. Liverpool PsychFest
Charlie and I shall be aqua gliding on Saturday.
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Strange game, if we lose he goes if we win convincingly he buys more time. I would like him out but i would prefer to see us win easily.
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We need to win this so I will say 2-0 to us.
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0-0.
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We've got three games in a week then an international break
That's when his position will be reviewed in my view
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I was confident we'd beat Brentford so I'll just wait and see
I presume we'll play the same lineup as Barnsley - we have to really
442 does mean we might cede a bit of possession - you're trading that for extra goal threat when you do have the ball. I can see the crowd getting frustrated
Yep, especially as none of them featured on Tuesday night. The one issue that concerns me with us playing 4-4-2 is the prospect of getting overrun in midfield, especially with Whelan in there. If that begins to happen then I suppose Onomah could always come on and we could go to a 4-3-3 should that be the case.
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Also we let Barnsley come onto us which gave the front three more space. If Forest sit back and let us dictate the pace, it could be a real bore-fest, so no change there then I guess.
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Front four.
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You could switch it so that Snodgrass or Adomah plays centrally in more of a 4231
I think it can work, but we either need to play counter attacking football or be so in your face that the pace of the game is more important than the numbers in central midfield. But whether Whelan and Hourihane can do that is obviously questionable
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All this stuff you guys are suggesting is too complicated for our Manager. Saturday evening is going to be the normal tedious stuff and if any form of chaos breaks out we will win or even lose however that is unlikely.
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1-1
collymore for us
collymore for them
Bruce stays a little longer and I get more depressed.
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You could switch it so that Snodgrass or Adomah plays centrally in more of a 4231
I think it can work, but we either need to play counter attacking football or be so in your face that the pace of the game is more important than the numbers in central midfield. But whether Whelan and Hourihane can do that is obviously questionable
True, but I guess it depends on their shape and where that extra midfielder is. If like they have a defensive midfielder like Brentford did, then you could make the change you mention,(although one of the strikers could drop a bit and mark him). If the extra man is more advanced, then you might need to change and add a holding player to look after him.
I guess it comes down primarily to scouting other sides and then being flexible enough able to make changes throughout a game.
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1-1 draw with nervous last 10 minutes, as per!
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A dour 1-1 to keep our unbeaten run (in the league) going...
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Johnstone
Elmo Chester Terry Taylor
Doyle -Hayes
Snodgrass Hourianne Adomah
Kodjia
Davis
From the off move the ball with slick tempo passing and get the ball wide
3-1
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1-1. Huff and puff.
Which one's the Villa player?
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I reckon we'll click and thump them 7-0.
They'll even have to put (Seven) after the number just to confirm for everyone.
Someone's due a good hiding
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I'm still smarting from my first ever game - April 1978 Us 0 Them 1 with a penalty that never was. So let's fuck these fuckers 5-0
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Johnstone
Elmo Chester Terry Taylor
Doyle -Hayes
Snodgrass Hourianne Adomah
Kodjia
Davis
From the off move the ball with slick tempo passing and get the ball wide
3-1
Swap Doyle-Hayes with Whelan and I think that is what we will see. Bench might look something like (guessing Lansbury and Jedinak are injured):
Steer, Bree, Samba, Onomah, Bjanrnasson, O'Hare, Hogan
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I don't want Bjarnasson anywhere near Birmingham, let alone the bench. The bloke is a bomb scare.
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The Forest fan who works for me reckons they are OK going forwards but shite at the back. Playing on the front foot is key if that is the case.
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0-0 Another clean sheet. :)
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The Forest fan who works for me reckons they are OK going forwards but shite at the back. Playing on the front foot is key if that is the case.
Ha!
1-1 for me, positive start and 1 up within half an hour but then let them back into it and concede midway through the 2nd half then a nervy end with both teams having chances to win it.
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Isn't the weather a bit bad for the beach?
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Isn't the weather a bit bad for the beach?
:'(
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1-1. I should be there, it is the 70th anniversary of my first visit to Villa Park. I am pretty pissed at being classified as hysterical so I am going to Newmarket to see the Cheveley Park. Sad but inevitable.
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We should win and win easily with style. if we dont the manager should be gone. He should have gone before now but as he is manager of the best team in the league he needs to start acting like it.
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1-1. I should be there, it is the 70th anniversary of my first visit to Villa Park. I am pretty pissed at being classified as hysterical so I am going to Newmarket to see the Cheveley Park. Sad but inevitable.
This is big news Brian.
UTV
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I'm still smarting from my first ever game - April 1978 Us 0 Them 1 with a penalty that never was. So let's fuck these fuckers 5-0
My first game was a couple of weeks before. Villa v West Ham we won 4-1 and I was hooked. Bastards.
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3-0
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I never predict a villa loss. So I think a 1-1
Stevie keeps his job...
...In ANOTHER of Xia's momentous and FAILED tweets.
Goodbye SEPTEMBER
God Loves Us anyway.
:)
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Bore off you crank.
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I see Alf's on good form again
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1st game of the season for me as I've been away. I was told to stay away if we were top after 10 games. Neither was ever going to happen. Despite what I think of Bruce, claret and blue runs through my veins, so I want a Villa win please! Come on the Villa boys!
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I'm still smarting from my first ever game - April 1978 Us 0 Them 1 with a penalty that never was. So let's fuck these fuckers 5-0
My first game was a couple of weeks before. Villa v West Ham we won 4-1 and I was hooked. Bastards.
My first game was 1979. Us 0 Manure 3.
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Lansbury & Jedinak out - Hogan training & Gabby back for Tuesday.
Glad Lansbury is out, 2 reasons - he hasn't yet shown anything of any note in a Villa shirt and against Forest he'd be so hyped up by the stick he'd get you'd fancy a red card would be nailed on
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Agree with the Lansbury comment - mildly positive on this one but am erring on the side of caution.
1-1 unbeaten run continues but its not enough to save Bruce
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Well we're about to start playing an 'expansive game'.
So 1-2.
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Johnstone
Elmo Chester Terry Taylor
Doyle -Hayes
Snodgrass Hourianne Adomah
Kodjia
Davis
From the off move the ball with slick tempo passing and get the ball wide
3-1
I've seen enough in 2 games that Doyle-Hayes is a better option in that position than the snail that is Whelan
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I don't want Bjarnasson anywhere near Birmingham, let alone the bench. The bloke is a bomb scare.
I agree. I once had fairly high hopes for Bjarnasson but not any more. He looks totally out of place in English football. His "defending" football Boro's second goal the other night was straight out of school boy football.
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Can we have a decent referee for this one?
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Expect Bruce to be ultra cautious after the Barnsley 'nose bleed' experience.
1-1.
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Can we have a decent referee for this one?
That's even more unrealistically optimistic than predicting a home win.
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Whelan was very important v Barnsley
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ANOTHER FAILED
SEPTEMBER
God Loves Us anyway.
:)
À winky thing does not excuse misuse of bold text, uppercase text, and proselytism. Please cease and desist.
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Johnstone
Elmo Chester Terry Taylor
Doyle -Hayes
Snodgrass Hourianne Adomah
Kodjia
Davis
From the off move the ball with slick tempo passing and get the ball wide
3-1
I've seen enough in 2 games that Doyle-Hayes is a better option in that position than the snail that is Whelan
He's 33, of course he's not going to be quick. I think he's done ok. You need a clogger in there sometimes to try and break up the play.
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Big week this week, three winnable games on paper. Win them all and we are right back in the mix. Amazing what a bit of Cyprus sun can do to your brain 😁
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Johnstone
Elmo Chester Terry Taylor
Doyle -Hayes
Snodgrass Hourianne Adomah
Kodjia
Davis
From the off move the ball with slick tempo passing and get the ball wide
3-1
I've seen enough in 2 games that Doyle-Hayes is a better option in that position than the snail that is Whelan
He's 33, of course he's not going to be quick. I think he's done ok. You need a clogger in there sometimes to try and break up the play.
Doyle - Hayes does look useful and keeps the ball well but for me he's one for the future. He doesn't look up to the thud and blunder of championship football just yet. I'd stick with Whelan for now he's the snappy little dog in the middle that we need right now.
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We will do these. 3-1 Villa, Kodjia hat trick to get him off the mark for the season.
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ANOTHER FAILED
SEPTEMBER
God Loves Us anyway.
:)
À winky thing does not excuse misuse of bold text, uppercase text, and proselytism. Please cease and desist.
I see no proselytism. Please cease and desist, BE.
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Another draw and we go again!
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ANOTHER FAILED
SEPTEMBER
God Loves Us anyway.
:)
À winky thing does not excuse misuse of bold text, uppercase text, and proselytism. Please cease and desist.
I see no proselytism. Please cease and desist, BE.
"God Loves Us" is the proselytism.
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I'm still smarting from my first ever game - April 1978 Us 0 Them 1 with a penalty that never was. So let's fuck these fuckers 5-0
My first game was a couple of weeks before. Villa v West Ham we won 4-1 and I was hooked. Bastards.
My first game was 1979. Us 0 Manure 3.
Are you me? That was my first game as well.
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an unimpressive 3 - 0 win by us.
well its friday ffs.
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I'm still smarting from my first ever game - April 1978 Us 0 Them 1 with a penalty that never was. So let's fuck these fuckers 5-0
My first game was a couple of weeks before. Villa v West Ham we won 4-1 and I was hooked. Bastards.
My first game was 1979. Us 0 Manure 3.
Are you me? That was my first game as well.
Me and my wife are Jimbo.
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Kodjia to score a brace in a 3-1 win for Villa. I’m pretty confident about this one, we have such a great chance to stamp or mark on the division this week, and it now seems that we can relax because it will be executed in expansive style too, so maybe we were all being a little hysterical 😊.
That or it will all go tits up this week and he’ll get the sack.
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2-0 Snodgrass with both
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We'll win this one 3-1. We'll also beat Burton and Bolton.
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Make or break time
Next weekend we'll either be in around the play off spots or looking for a new manager
Any chance we could chill out on the incessant negativity and moaning in the meantime?
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A big win for us, 3 or 4 and another clean sheet.
Promotion push has started...or we've had another false dawn.
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Make or break time
Next weekend we'll either be in around the play off spots or looking for a new manager
Any chance we could chill out on the incessant negativity and moaning in the meantime?
There are 2 chances
Slim and none
Slim just left on a horse with no name
It felt good to.be out of the rain
In the desert you can remember your name
And there ain't no one for you to give you no shame
A triple negative there.
4-1.
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4-1 it is.
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Incredibly negative comments. I genuinely feel we have turned a corner. We now have several players who can score tomorrow. Our defence was top notch last week and there is unity in the squad. 3-0 Davis, Snodgrass brace ....
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The second of 4 back to back wins, 2-1 Terry and Kodjia. Murray for them. UTV believe
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Only a win is good enough. The time for excuses is over. It's time to deliver victories on a regular basis.
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I had a dream last night that we beat Forest 5-0 and followed it up with a 6-1 win at Burton. Bruce just deliver my dream that is all I ask.
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I had a dream last night that we beat Forest 5-0 and followed it up with a 6-1 win at Burton. Bruce just deliver my dream that is all I ask.
Funnily enough I dreamt the other night we got proper stuffed, 8-0 and I woke up with dread about going to work before realising it was only a dream.
I wonder who's dream is more likely? Yours I bloody well hope!
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2-1 Villa. Keane for them, Big Cyrille will equalise with a great lob and then God will appear up in the clouds to head home the winner to send Mr Green Jumper home pointless
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Well I have no idea about the likely result- haven’t seen us play this season as we can’t get the championship in aus any more. I’m guessing a draw.bruce has heaped the pressure on the players though after the cup exit. If we lose and fail to win the following game, his job will be hanging by a very thin thread.
Wins are what will buy you time Steve.
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as they do for every manager ?
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A thumping 5-0 win. Goals for Kodjia x2, Chester, Elmo and Terry. But then I've taken a little extra medication to get me through my night shift.
What do you take? I could do with some for my upcoming night shifts. ;)
A thumping 5-0 win. Goals for Kodjia x2, Chester, Elmo and Terry. But then I've taken a little extra medication to get me through my night shift.
I can't imagine Villa ever scoring five goals in a season, sorry match, ever again.
Zappin, it's great. Now I'm not medicated up, just slightly hungover my prediction has changed. 6-0, throw an own goal in as well.
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A thumping 5-0 win. Goals for Kodjia x2, Chester, Elmo and Terry. But then I've taken a little extra medication to get me through my night shift.
What do you take? I could do with some for my upcoming night shifts. ;)
A thumping 5-0 win. Goals for Kodjia x2, Chester, Elmo and Terry. But then I've taken a little extra medication to get me through my night shift.
I can't imagine Villa ever scoring five goals in a season, sorry match, ever again.
Zappin, it's great. Now I'm not medicated up, just slightly hungover my prediction has changed. 6-0, throw an own goal in as well.
It's worth a punt at 125/1, the promotion march starts today.
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I had a dream last night that we beat Forest 5-0 and followed it up with a 6-1 win at Burton. Bruce just deliver my dream that is all I ask.
Yeah that'd be nice. These are two more must win games.
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4-1 it is.
I'll go with that, fancy us to stroll this.
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Sometimes you get these feelings and when you rule out needing the toilet you back your hunch.
I'm really looking forward to the game. Tuesday and all its meh has not dampened any enthusiasm. We are at a pivotal moment.
We will look back at today as our anti-Leicester moment. Battering these funny sounding East Midlands bumpkins will be the game we realise Barnsley wasn't a blip and the Dreadnaught that is Aston Villa gathers unstoppable momentum.
Or maybe I did just need a wizz.
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I don't know too much about Forest this season although somebody else earlier in this thread said they'd made a good start but they're only 2 points ahead of us and they've lost 4 already. This is the type of game we need to be winning if we want to be up there. I'll go 2-1, Kodjia and Adomah with another penalty.
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2-1 Villa. Keane for them, Big Cyrille will equalise with a great lob and then God will appear up in the clouds to head home the winner to send Mr Green Jumper home pointless
We had a very good home record against a very good Forest side around that time (not so much at their place). I remember being at the game and could have told you our scorers but I wouldn't have remembered their scorer. I wonder whatever became of him.
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They're defensively poor and particularly weak at the seat piece.
Aston Villa's brave John Terry to score.
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When I was at University in Nottingham they had the crappest quietest fans ever. They will have nothing to sing about today.
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They're defensively poor and particularly weak at the seat piece.
Aston Villa's brave John Terry to score.
Chester is due one as well, he's not scored this season yet either.
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The limit of my ambition today is that Lansbury inadvertently steps onto the wrong coach afterwards
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Just about to set off. I know it's a bit early but I have to go into Bristol on the way.
The sun is shining and I have a very pleasent vibe that 3 points are heading our way. Have a great day everyone. UTV.
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Charles will score a cracker from just outside the box.
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Just about to set off. I know it's a bit early but I have to go into Bristol on the way.
The sun is shining and I have a very pleasent vibe that 3 points are heading our way. Have a great day everyone. UTV.
There is not much sun about up here but agree on 3 points.
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1-0 to us, courtesy of Franz Carr.
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Three hour train journey from Aberystwyth - please win.
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Three hour train journey from Aberystwyth - please win.
That brings back memories of studying there between 2000-2003.
If I remember correctly, the 9:30am train and plenty of Stella. Great days. Unless it rained and we had to get on a replacement bus from Borth or Dovey Junction. Still, there were some great days in 2001, particularly the 3-2 win that sent Coventry down, and beating Bolton 3-2 also to go top of the league in October.
Oh, and £5 tickets with an NUS card for the Holte.
Hope they win for you mate
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I take it there's no team news yet? Hoping we play 4-4-2 again, with Davis and Kodija up front. A potentially frightening attack in the Championship.
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Not until 4.30ish.
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Good memories, Axl! Daughter at Uni now, last year but we spend lots of time here. Having to make do with Brewdog Punk IPA these days :-)
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Good memories, Axl! Daughter at Uni now, last year but we spend lots of time here. Having to make do with Brewdog Punk IPA these days :-)
That sounds pretty good to me, mate.
I loved living in Aberystwyth, especially between May to September. My mum and dad loved coming to visit, too. Haven't been back for over 10 years now due to living abroad, but will take my wife there one day. I'm sure alot has changed, but I'm hoping Andy's Records is still there!
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Lansbury and Jedinak expected not to feature.
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Very low scoring day today in the two top flights
Hopefully we can buck the trend