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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: UK Redsox on August 10, 2017, 09:15:06 AM
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Cardiff City vs Aston Villa
Championship
Saturday 12 August, 15:00
Cardiff City Stadium, Cardiff
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0-2 Villa.
Piece of piss.
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0-0
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We could win this... scrappy draw more likely.
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Cardiff City
Cardiff City Stadium, Cardiff
Oh, and, FFS. Kick them out of the fucking league. Unimaginative twats.
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I know its early but i can't help thinking we're get an idea of where this season is heading after this game. A loss and i'll be worried. 1-1.
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Roma,
Stadio Olympico,
Rome.
How tedious.
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Cardiff City
Cardiff City Stadium, Cardiff
Oh, and, FFS. Kick them out of the fucking league. Unimaginative twats.
Remind me where we play ;-)
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1-1 draw. Kenneth Zahore with a late equaliser.
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Anyone planning to use the M4, please note that the old Severn Bridge (M48) is closed all weekend
https://www.severnbridge.co.uk/Home/Lane-closure-notifications.aspx
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Would be amazing to get a well played comfortable victory with shoots of promise all around.
Honestly though it will be a tough old scrap, crap football, Cardiff will have more of the game and I think we will scrape a 1-1 draw and more arguments about where we are going.
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1-1 draw. I think Cardiff will be a top half team and hard to beat at home this season.
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We should thrash them but I reckon Stevie will play for a draw.
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1-1 Draw for me.
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A win would be great but I think a draw at best given our shockingly bad away form...saying that, Cardiff only managed to just about scrape a last minute winner against Burton last weekend so we might be able to get our first away win of the season if we can score early and don't sit back.
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I'm visiting friends in the Cardiff area for a few days after this one. We must win!
I want to have friendly chats and share food and beer with them without mentioning the game but having a massive smug grin just below the surface.
Just win please Villa! Please!
UTV!
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1-1
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2-3. 3 up at half time and coasting, then by 85 minutes clinging on, as Cardiff look for the equaliser.
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0-2 at half time.
2-2 at full time.
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We won't beat them take the draw right now. We will struggle physically moving forward
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Cardiff City
Cardiff City Stadium, Cardiff
Oh, and, FFS. Kick them out of the fucking league. Unimaginative twats.
Uncle Vincent already tried to re-invent the club and failed.
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Shame. Although red and white is just as boring as blue and white.
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Stroll in the park. 0-3 away win. Hogan hat trick
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2-1 loss.
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Johnstone
Hutton Terry Chester Taylor
Whelan
Elmo Lansbury Gabby
Onomah
Hogan
Subs:
Steer
Hourihanne
Bjork
Samba
Adomah
O'Hare
Davis
2-0 villa Elmo & Hogan
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Villa to win 2-1, there are signs we are improving and with JT and Chester in defence we wont be a pushover.
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0-2
Terry
Elmohamady
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Missed chances
1-1
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We must be due a clean sheet!
0-0 or 0-1
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Defeat. Played off the park by a shit team.
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Defeat. Played off the park by a shit team.
Can't wait to re quote this Saturday.
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Defeat. Played off the park by a shit team.
Can't wait to re quote this Saturday.
Why? In fact, don't bother, any chance you could just go and post your trolling rubbish elsewhere.
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My Mum has taken a shine to O'Hare as that was her maiden name. Not as disturbing as when I was a teenager and she told me she found Ray Walker of the Villa 'attractive'. I had previously thought she only had feelings for my Dad and Roger Whittaker.
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My Mum has taken a shine to O'Hare as that was her maiden name. Not as disturbing as when I was a teenager and she told me she found Ray Walker of the Villa 'attractive'. I had previously thought she only had feelings for my Dad and Roger Whittaker.
Harrowing. My mum used to keep going on about how good looking my best mates dad was, I couldn't sleep at night. I was 18.
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0-1-Taylor 89mins who then celebrates in front of the Cardiff fans.
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I know its early but i can't help thinking we're get an idea of where this season is heading after this game. A loss and i'll be worried. 1-1.
I think thats right. Whether the team will finally snap into place and start playing to their value or we will see another wobble and maybe a fall.
I honestly have no idea how this will go. So I will plump for a 0-2 away win. Hogan for both.
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0-1 Terry, 71 mins.
You know it's gotta happen!
UTV.
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Just a win and a player from each side sent of, but I don't think that it will be a game for the football purists amongst us.
I am going to take a neck brace as the ball will be booted from one end of the pitch to the other so often!
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cardiff city 2 ............Aston Villa .....1
sorry guys we will be too physical . colin has added a bit more steal to the side again this season and zahore is on fire
this championship ain't the prem league you know no prima donnas in this league . JT will find it a slog
enjoy your day down in south wales but not the result of course . for those who want a beer and food before the game get down to cardiff bay not too far from the football ground too.
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Thanks D_C
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Cardiff City
Cardiff City Stadium, Cardiff
Oh, and, FFS. Kick them out of the fucking league. Unimaginative twats.
Not this again lol.
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Cardiff City
Cardiff City Stadium, Cardiff
Oh, and, FFS. Kick them out of the fucking league. Unimaginative twats.
Remind me where we play ;-)
Aston Villa FC
Villa Park,
Aston.
You know what it's almost poetic
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0-1-Taylor 89mins who then celebrates in front of the Cardiff fans.
Would go down well!! I can't really see too many changes from last Saturday and I think he will stick with 4-4-2 for the time being. I also think the only definite change will be in central midfield with Bacuna obviously going out the side. There are a few options with that - Onomah or Hourihane coming in alongside Whelan with Lansbury staying further forward or Lansbury dropping back into central midfield and someone coming in to play in the more advanced role. There are a few candidates for that - Onomah, Bjarnason or Adomah could play there or we could go with one of O'Hare, Davis or Hepburn-Murphy. I like what I've seen of O'Hare so far and think he brings energy that we are lacking, so on the assumption that we will only make one change I wouldn't mind seeing a team of:
Johnstone, Hutton, Chester, Terry, Taylor, Elmohamady, Whelan, Lansbury, Agbonlahor, O'Hare, Hogan.
Bench is an interesting one as there are quite a few options now with De Laet and Adomah back. Got to choose from:
Steer, Bree, De Laet, Samba, Hourihane, Bjarnason, Onomah, Green, Adomah, Davis, Hepburn-Murphy
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Johnstone
Hutton Terry Chester Taylor
Whelan
Elmo Lansbury Gabby
Onomah
Hogan
Subs:
Steer
Hourihanne
Bjork
Samba
Adomah
O'Hare
Davis
2-0 villa Elmo & Hogan
I'm expecting De Laet to feature somewhere
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It would be nice if we replace Bacuna with someone not playing out of position.
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It would be nice if we replace Bacuna with someone not playing out of position.
Don't be silly!
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If go with;
Johnstone
Taylor
Terry
Chester
Hutton
Hourihane
Whelan
Onomah
Elmo
Hogan
Adomah
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Even though that's a far more balanced side Ads, there's no way that Bruce will drop Gabby
No loyalty in your selections, that's why you were fired ;)
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If go with;
Johnstone
Taylor
Terry
Chester
Hutton
Hourihane
Whelan
Onomah
Elmo
Hogan
Adomah
I think gabby will start ahead of Adomah. And I think he'll pick Lansbury ahead of Hourihane.
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If go with;
Johnstone
Taylor
Terry
Chester
Hutton
Hourihane
Whelan
Onomah
Elmo
Hogan
Adomah
I think gabby will start ahead of Adomah. And I think he'll pick Lansbury ahead of Hourihane.
Yep. Gabby won't be dropped, besides he offers much more physicality than Adomah and we need a bit of that.
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I agree with Ads team
but of course Gabby will start
1 1 the score
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If go with;
Johnstone
Taylor
Terry
Chester
Hutton
Hourihane
Whelan
Onomah
Elmo
Hogan
Adomah
You know what Ads, I've been wondering as well if Bruce will switch to a 4-5-1 for the trickier away games. I can see it to be honest and think that if you change Hourihane and Adomah in the above side for Lansbury and Agbonlahor, then I think you might have it.
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I'd have Green in for Adomah for a bit more balance, but that's looks like our strongest front six. I don't think we've had two central midfielders that can play as a two since Milner and Petrov, so three in the middle is an absolute must. It's the only way we'll control the match for long enough to hang on to a lead, which is ultimately how most of our matches go.
I can see this being another draw though. We'll certainly have a good idea of how many of our team are up for a long fight for promotion after this one.
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I'd have Green in for Adomah for a bit more balance, but that's looks like our strongest front six. I don't think we've had two central midfielders that can play as a two since Milner and Petrov, so three in the middle is an absolute must. It's the only way we'll control the match for long enough to hang on to a lead, which is ultimately how most of our matches go.
I can see this being another draw though. We'll certainly have a good idea of how many of our team are up for a long fight for promotion after this one.
I'd love to see Green given a consistent run in the side.
It's been reported that he might miss out tomorrow with a groin injury, which is a disappointment. I like his speed, skill and unpredictability.
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I'd have Green in for Adomah for a bit more balance, but that's looks like our strongest front six. I don't think we've had two central midfielders that can play as a two since Milner and Petrov, so three in the middle is an absolute must. It's the only way we'll control the match for long enough to hang on to a lead, which is ultimately how most of our matches go.
It did cross my mind at times in the second half last week, when it appeared that Whelan was running in treacle.
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Sort of has 0-0 written all over it. Two well organised sides, early season game, probably be intense. Just hope we don't go too negative and end up being penned back into our half for a lot of match. Hope we nick something on the break, but another draw this early in the season from a tricky away fixture would be no bad thing.
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Sort of has 0-0 written all over it. Two well organised sides, early season game, probably be intense. Just hope we don't go too negative and end up being penned back into our half for a lot of match. Hope we nick something on the break, but another draw this early in the season from a tricky away fixture would be no bad thing.
I think we are setting a dangerous precedent if we take this approach. We then have Reading away who finished top 6 last season so could then say away from home that a draw would be another good result. Before you know if we have played 3 won 0 and only got 3 points on the board.
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1-2 no bother
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Tough game, 1-1.
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Colin Wanker v Steve Bruce has a bit of a feel of clash of the dinosaurs - 1-1 in a dour slog of a game.
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If Green is fit I would be tempted to play him in the middle of the forward line - I just feel we need pace up top when away from home if we sit deep and hit on the break. Seemed to work with Leicester and Vardy.
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Has anyone done it yet?
Fuck the fuckers.
1 - 2 to the villa
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Dont feel confident draw at best
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A game of two halves. First half we'll give them a lesson in how to keep possession of the football without actually doing anything constructive, a real master class in knocking it between the 4 defenders, goalkeeper and holding midfielder creating beautiful rectangular passing movements in our own half. Second half not so good, a combination of tiring ourselves out first half with this excessive ball retention and Cardiff realising at half time that we're actually fucking shite will mean a torrid time, Cardiff running us ragged and scoring twice in the first 20 mins followed by a period of saving themselves for their next game, knowing we're beaten. Ours will be then trudging about heads down, with a couple of inexplicable substitutions doing nothing to gee things up or improve the level of performance.
So... A 2-0 defeat.
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Cardiff 1 Villa 2 with all goals coming in a scintillating second half
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At least Jack isn't there for Warnock to wait for on the sidelines at the end to mouth-off at him.
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We should probably play 4-4-2 and look to hit them on the break, tbh. It's probably the best we'll get out of a Bruce team and it can be effective - especially against a Warnock team who, at home, will be looking to make the play but won't have been given the tools to do so by their manager. 1-0 Villa, probably an o.g. or a set piece or Glenn Whelan repeating Dalian's goal against Wimbledon touch for touch.
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Steve Bruce says we need to be more like Cardiff. Carry on the way you're going Steve and it will be mission accomplished!
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From the Evening Mail.
Asked about Aston Villa ahead of Saturday's match, Warnock said: "They’re still one of those teams aren’t they? When I was a kid all those years ago, I used to love the colour of the shirts.
“It was always one of the top teams. There’s always been an aura about it, Villa."
Cardiff won this fixture last season, capitalising upon one of those shocking Villa away performances to clinch a 1-0 victory, but Warnock reckons the visitors are the favourites this weekend.
“If we lose to Villa it won’t be a shock," he added.
“If we win it might be but I think we’ll be like that against all the big teams, the sides that have come down, your Sheffield Wednesdays, Leeds, and all these clubs we’ll be underdogs going into all these.
“And that’s probably the best we can be really, that helps us in that determination. In every walk of life, people want to show what they can do. Our lads are no different.
I could see yesterday the lads are all really looking forward to it. It doesn't mean you're guaranteed anything – in this division there will be highs and lows, despondency and euphoria."
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Fair comments in fairness.
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Staying positive, A draw and a win so far. So a draw, no I mean a win, shit I haven't a clue.
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Nailed on draw - 0/0. They will struggle to break through what is now a pretty solid defense, but sadly, the same will be true up the other end.
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Defeat. Played off the park by a shit team.
Can't wait to re quote this Saturday.
Why? In fact, don't bother, any chance you could just go and post your trolling rubbish elsewhere.
Amen.
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And 2-1 us. Unconvincing but it doesn't matter, the juggernaut is moving.
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Why don't you take your negativity and sycophantic views somewhere else?
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Coz I woz ere first, and I've got loads of mates and an hard Dad.
Hogan with an expertly finished brace.
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Ok.
Easy villa 2-0 win
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Calm down. We're all hurting.
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All calm on the eve of our win, SB will still be the messiah.
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All calm on the eve of our win, SB will still be the messiah.
I'm at the other end of the continent and yet you still seem as big as ever.
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0-0
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All calm on the eve of our win, SB will still be the messiah.
I'm at the other end of the continent and yet you still seem as big as ever.
Made me larf!
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All calm on the eve of our win, SB will still be the messiah.
I'm at the other end of the continent and yet you still seem as big as ever.
Prize for letting everyone know how far away you are and your sycophants?
I will sing a song for you later at The match.
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And 2-1 us. Unconvincing but it doesn't matter, the juggernaut is moving.
We've the talent, it just needs to click. We're slowly, very slowly, getting there.
2-0 Villa. Chester and Terry. It won't be pretty but 3 points right now is so and more important.
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Why don't you take your negativity and sycophantic views somewhere else?
:-[
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And 2-1 us. Unconvincing but it doesn't matter, the juggernaut is moving.
We've the talent, it just needs to click. We're slowly, very slowly, getting there.
2-0 Villa. Chester and Terry. It won't be pretty but 3 points right now is so and more important.
You and I brother, are in the same boat. My thoughts entirely, other than I think Terry will nod one in for a 0-1 win :)
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Green out. Think we will struggle for creativity
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Because it's only the second game in the champ 1 4 to give our season an early boost
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This is the day it all starts to click for us. 2-0. Terry and Gabby
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All calm on the eve of our win, SB will still be the messiah.
I'm at the other end of the continent and yet you still seem as big as ever.
Prize for letting everyone know how far away you are and your sycophants?
I will sing a song for you later at The match.
I love a sing song, what's the song?
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Beautiful Day.
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All calm on the eve of our win, SB will still be the messiah.
I'm at the other end of the continent and yet you still seem as big as ever.
Prize for letting everyone know how far away you are and your sycophants?
I will sing a song for you later at The match.
I love a sing song, what's the song?
When I get that feeling,
I kiss Sexual Ealing
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If Gabby and Bacuna start, I will be even more pissed off than when they started last week. All the signings he's made and these two idiots get a start is something that is beyond me.
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Bacuna won't, Gabby willl.
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All calm on the eve of our win, SB will still be the messiah.
I'm at the other end of the continent and yet you still seem as big as ever.
Prize for letting everyone know how far away you are and your sycophants?
If you plan on hanging around here much longer, you might want to think about changing your tone.
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If Gabby and Bacuna start, I will be even more pissed off than when they started last week. All the signings he's made and these two idiots get a start is something that is beyond me.
Bacuna is on his way out but after he scored last week it is almost certain Gabby will keep his place.
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If Gabby and Bacuna start, I will be even more pissed off than when they started last week. All the signings he's made and these two idiots get a start is something that is beyond me.
Gabby is a cut above in this league and he seems to be knuckling down to the task so it's a yes from me.
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All calm on the eve of our win, SB will still be the messiah.
I'm at the other end of the continent and yet you still seem as big as ever.
Prize for letting everyone know how far away you are and your sycophants?
If you plan on hanging around here much longer, you might want to think about changing your tone.
Will the same threat go to those whom have referred to me as "Nobs" on several occasions?
All of which I ignored but they have gone conveniently unnoticed?
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All calm on the eve of our win, SB will still be the messiah.
I'm at the other end of the continent and yet you still seem as big as ever.
Prize for letting everyone know how far away you are and your sycophants?
If you plan on hanging around here much longer, you might want to think about changing your tone.
Will the same threat go to those whom have referred to me as "Nobs" on several occasions?
All of which I ignored but they have gone conveniently unnoticed?
Probably not, as it's a fairly prominent part of your username, which (to my knowledge) nobody forced you to choose.
How would you prefer people to refer to you?
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It's only a matter of time before 'Nobs' posts somewhere on the internet about how they've been 'banned' (when they haven't) and everybody is a sycophant or some such rubbish.
What's your favourite U2 album?
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You are too intelligent to pretend that you're naive at the connotations of how they used my name, but hey I'm a big boy I will not complain again over the childish usage of my username.
The 5 is a spin on S for a recognisable Brum night life institution, so however people please themselves.
Back on track, heres to a Villa win today.
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It's only a matter of time before 'Nobs' posts somewhere on the internet about how they've been 'banned' (when they haven't) and everybody is a sycophant or some such rubbish.
What's your favourite U2 album?
See what music are you listening too In off topic
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Best of?
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Yes, best of.
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If Gabby and Bacuna start, I will be even more pissed off than when they started last week. All the signings he's made and these two idiots get a start is something that is beyond me.
Gabby is a cut above in this league and he seems to be knuckling down to the task so it's a yes from me.
I'll have a pint of whatever you've had.
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I agree with Edge, fit and focused he should be battering teams.
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Gabby causes a lot of sides problems at this level, and I say that as someone who is really peed off with his behaviour and attitude of the last few years.
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If Gabby and Bacuna start, I will be even more pissed off than when they started last week. All the signings he's made and these two idiots get a start is something that is beyond me.
Gabby is a cut above in this league and he seems to be knuckling down to the task so it's a yes from me.
I'll have a pint of whatever you've had.
It's all about opinions. Gabby managed to play regularly in the best league in the world for over 10 years so that speaks volumes for his ability. He has frustrated the fuck out of us for years but he's still at the club and earning high wages so for me Brucie has done the right thing by bringing him back into the fold.
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It's only a matter of time before 'Nobs' posts somewhere on the internet about how they've been 'banned' (when they haven't) and everybody is a sycophant or some such rubbish.
What's your favourite U2 album?
Fed up of the name calling, he is changing his name to 5penis.
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Best oxymoron of the day so far!
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It's only a matter of time before 'Nobs' posts somewhere on the internet about how they've been 'banned' (when they haven't) and everybody is a sycophant or some such rubbish.
What's your favourite U2 album?
Fed up of the name calling, he is changing his name to 5penis.
Never heard of it.
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It's only a matter of time before 'Nobs' posts somewhere on the internet about how they've been 'banned' (when they haven't) and everybody is a sycophant or some such rubbish.
What's your favourite U2 album?
Fed up of the name calling, he is changing his name to 5penis.
Never heard of it.
It's from their lesser known RnB period.
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Its not ideal to have Gabby playing I'll agree but from what I've seen in the Watford and Hull games he's better than a lot of the other attacking options we have, and that is a sorry state of affairs in itself. The team we need to be aiming for is 4-4-2 Johnstone, Hutton (or Bree), Chester, Terry, Taylor, Elhommody, Whelan, Onomah, New LW, Hogan, Kodjia.
But in the absence of new LW and Kodjia today I would play Gabby LW and O Hare up front. If we get a new left winger in i'd then stick Gabby up front till Kodjia comes back.
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Play a small, inexperienced kid out of position? No pressure then.