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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Ads on July 31, 2017, 08:54:41 AM
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With injuries to Kodjia, Adomah and Grealish, I wouldn't be surprised to see an attacking player or two to arrive before the window closes.
We must get off to a strong start and I'd go with;
Johnstone
Taylor
Terry
Chester
Bree
Whelan
Lansbury
Hourihane
Elmo
Green
Hogan
Hourihane playing a lot higher up the pitch and the wide men getting close to Hogan.
2-0 Villa. Moderators, a poll if you please.
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Has Bree played much in preseason? I reckon we'll start with Hutton. Pretty please get at least one attacking player in before next week and I'll feel a lot more confident.
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Poll added.
Saturday 5.8.17 17.30 KO
2-0
Whelan
Elmohamady
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I think it'll be 0-0.
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0-0
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0-0 for me too. It will be Hogan and Gabby up front. Lots of running about.
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1-1 draw (Villa to be leading at HT. Hull to equalise late on).
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A dour 1-0 win. The first of many such results in the season ahead.
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0-0. The usual start of season optimism that usually fades by the end of September didn't materialise for me at all this year.
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A dour 1-0 win. The first of many such results in the season ahead.
I agree .1-0 and not the last win by that scoreline this season.
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With injuries to Kodjia, Adomah and Grealish, I wouldn't be surprised to see an attacking player or two to arrive before the window closes.
We must get off to a strong start and I'd go with;
Johnstone
Taylor
Terry
Chester
Bree
Whelan
Lansbury
Hourihane
Elmo
Green
Hogan
Hourihane playing a lot higher up the pitch and the wide men getting close to Hogan.
2-0 Villa. Moderators, a poll if you please.
Hope he lines up like that...although I'd stick Amavi in for Taylor. But I think he'll start Hutton and I've got a horrible feeling he'll start Gabby.
Really hope he goes two up top once Kodija is back..won't be holding my breath though.
1-1
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0-0. We're more solid defensively but without Kodjia I didn't see anything in the friendlies (I know) to indicate where the goals will come from. By the way - for those like me who normally go M5/M6/Expressway travel's likely to be a pain - roadworks on the M5 between Jnc 1&2 and the Expressway will be shut.
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0-0
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Some team will get a real thumping soon.
0-0
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3-0 to Villa. We are going to 'click' on Saturday.
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By the way - for those like me who normally go M5/M6/Expressway travel's likely to be a pain - roadworks on the M5 between Jnc 1&2 and the Expressway will be shut.
Coming north up the M5, I normally get off at J1 and come in via the Hawthorns and Handsworth Wood. I'll probably just give myself even more time than usual and check out how bad the delays are at Oldbury.
My alternative is getting off at J3 and then cutting across past City Hospital / Prison and on over towards the Bartons
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Is Johnstone fit ?
How bad is Elmo's injury ?
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Johnstone
Bree
Chester
Terry
Taylor
Elmo
Whelan
Lansbury
Green
Gabby
Hogan
Subs :
Steer
Samba
Amavi
Bacuna
BB
Hourihane
Davis or RHM
1-0 win (Terry)
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1 - 0, Terry header from a corner.
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Us 0 Them Don't Know.
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Johnstone is injured isn't he and not sure Elmo will be fit either after coming off at the weekend. Presuming Johnstone won't make it and Elmo will, I think it will be the same team as Saturday apart from Hogan replacing the injured Grealish.
If Elmo isn't it fit, then I think Bacuna or Bree will start on the right with Green on the left. or Green will shift to the right with Bjarnason on the left.
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Interesting stat...we haven't played a first game at home since the 2010/11 season which we won 3-0 against West Ham. I went for a draw but tempted to go for a win and a good start to the season.
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1-0 or Maybe 0-0
I reckon he'll go:
Johnstone / Steer
Hutton Chester Terry Taylor (nailed on this is our defence)
Bacuna Whelan (Bacuna looked sharp whereas hourihane hasn't)
Elmo Lansbury Green
Gabby
But personally I'd sacrifice the number 10 for Hogan and put Lansbury alongside Whelan for this game, even if it means ceding a bit of possession. A MoN style 442
Hull have sold Elmo Davies Maguire and Robertson this summer - a whole back four. Let's get at that defence
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A cautious 1-1.
Anyone got a link to a few of Hull's pre season games as I genuinely have no idea who's still there from end of last season and the make up of their squad so would like to have a check at what might be their likely line up.
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Despite everything that we have been through over the last few years I'm chuffed to bits that the Villa are playing again on Sat. It's been a long summer of minor interest in minor sports, and that swimming thing seemed to go on forever.
Anyway, 1-1.
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1-0 or Maybe 0-0
I reckon he'll go:
Johnstone / Steer
Hutton Chester Terry Taylor (nailed on this is our defence)
Bacuna Whelan (Bacuna looked sharp whereas hourihane hasn't)
Elmo Lansbury Green
Gabby
But personally I'd sacrifice the number 10 for Hogan and put Lansbury alongside Whelan for this game, even if it means ceding a bit of possession. A MoN style 442
Hull have sold Elmo Davies Maguire and Robertson this summer - a whole back four. Let's get at that defence
Can see that Matt and agree about Hogan, though he might come off the bench to replace Gabby when he is inevitably gassed out.
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A cautious 1-1.
Anyone got a link to a few of Hull's pre season games as I genuinely have no idea who's still there from end of last season and the make up of their squad so would like to have a check at what might be their likely line up.
Dawson, Grosicki, Hernandez, Clucas and McGregor are the ones that jump out as players from last year. Grosicki who I seem to remember did particularly well for them.
Aina on loan from Chelsea at full-back and Frazier Campbell (who will probably be pretty decent at this level) are the main additions I think.
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5-3
bacuna 3
hutton 2
windass hat trick for them
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Think there will be a goal in it, not sure which way
If he does start with gabby it begs the question why buy hogan?
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A cautious 1-1.
Anyone got a link to a few of Hull's pre season games as I genuinely have no idea who's still there from end of last season and the make up of their squad so would like to have a check at what might be their likely line up.
They've drawn against Ajax 3-3, Nantes 0-0 and beat Benfica 1-0 in their last 3.
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Seem to have had a lot better opponents than us pre season which will surely help them ? Our schedule now looks very light by comparison.
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We really should be beating these as they have gone through a bit of turmoil. Just wonder how we will create chances. Think we may sneak a 1-0 through a set piece.
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5-0
A repeat of New Year's Day 1988.
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A cautious 1-1.
Anyone got a link to a few of Hull's pre season games as I genuinely have no idea who's still there from end of last season and the make up of their squad so would like to have a check at what might be their likely line up.
They've drawn against Ajax 3-3, Nantes 0-0 and beat Benfica 1-0 in their last 3.
Blimey, thats quite impressive
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Seem to have had a lot better opponents than us pre season which will surely help them ? Our schedule now looks very light by comparison.
Not sure how much you can read into that. Our season is starting particularly early so teams should be further along in their preparation.
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2-0. Not pulsating or anything to set the pulse racing. But we'll keep it tight and score a couple against a poor Hull side.
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Here it is on the correct thread SHQ!
Hull City: McGregor, Lenihan (Clark 46), Aina, Dawson (Mazuch 72), Hector, Stewart (Olley 68), Clucas (Batty 65), Henriksen, Bowen, Campbell (Weir), Hernández (Diomande).
Subs Not Used: Andrew, Clackstone, Luer.
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Team for Ajax was:
McGregor, Michael Hector (on loan from Chelsea), Dawson, Aina (on loan from Chelsea), Stewart (signed for 8m from Liverpool), Clucas (surprised a lower end prem team hasn't come in yet), Bowen, Lenihan, Henriksen, Abel Hernandez, Frazier Campbell (shite).
Didn't realise Abel Hernandez was still there. Thought he was out of contract given we were strongly linked with him a year ago. He's a very good striker at this level if motivated.
Can't say the rest of that is anything to seriously worry about. Would be very surprised if they made top 6.
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A 2-0 win. Elmo (if he's fit) and Hogan with our goals.
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Here it is on the correct thread SHQ!
Hull City: McGregor, Lenihan (Clark 46), Aina, Dawson (Mazuch 72), Hector, Stewart (Olley 68), Clucas (Batty 65), Henriksen, Bowen, Campbell (Weir), Hernández (Diomande).
Subs Not Used: Andrew, Clackstone, Luer.
Indeed thanks PWS and my brainfade on the TV thread!
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With injuries to Kodjia, Adomah and Grealish, I wouldn't be surprised to see an attacking player or two to arrive before the window closes.
We must get off to a strong start and I'd go with;
Johnstone
Taylor
Terry
Chester
Bree
Whelan
Lansbury
Hourihane
Elmo
Green
Hogan
Hourihane playing a lot higher up the pitch and the wide men getting close to Hogan.
2-0 Villa. Moderators, a poll if you please.
I'd go along with most of that but Hutton for Bree and Barney for Lansbury.
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2-0 Villa.
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4-0 Villa win. It will be the easiest game of the season against a Hull team that don't know if they are coming or going.
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Won't be easy and they do have quality in midfield and attack - thigh I think grosicki is linked with a move away
But I only recognised Dawson amongst those defenders. Which is why I think we may be better off going with gabby and hogan and running in behind
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1-1
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With injuries to Kodjia, Adomah and Grealish, I wouldn't be surprised to see an attacking player or two to arrive before the window closes.
We must get off to a strong start and I'd go with;
Johnstone
Taylor
Terry
Chester
Bree
Whelan
Lansbury
Hourihane
Elmo
Green
Hogan
Hourihane playing a lot higher up the pitch and the wide men getting close to Hogan.
2-0 Villa. Moderators, a poll if you please.
Id also agree with this, but with Hutton for Bree and Gabby for Elmo(if injured).
3-0 Win to Villa (Hogan x2, Terry header)
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We should be a bit more settled than them. A win would be nice. Is De Laet still injured? Haven't seen much mention of him for the RB slot. Bree didn't impress much in his few appearances last season but it's concerning that Hutton is starting the season as first choice.
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Elmo, Hutton, Taylor, Whelan, Gabby, Jedinak all likely starters ?....it ain't going to be a game for the purists
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0-0.
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Elmo won't be left-out cos of some gentlemen's agreement shit, will he?
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Elmo, Hutton, Taylor, Whelan, Gabby, Jedinak all likely starters ?....it ain't going to be a game for the purists
Jedi not ready according to Bruce
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2-1 Villa. I'm expecting shakiness from us, especially going forwards. If Hourihane wants the number ten role, this is the time for him to grab it. On paper, him and Hogan could be brilliant.
I'm so glad Villa are back though. Finally.
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Elmo won't be left-out cos of some gentlemen's agreement shit, will he?
We would be investigated by the FA if he was as other clubs are bound to be complain. Knowing our luck in these matters we would be relegated to the 4th division as punishment.
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Draw for me 0-0 or 1-1
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Us 1-0 Them
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The procession begins. 3-0 to Villa and their team bus will get a puncture on the way home.
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Johnstone / Steer
Scottish Cafu
C-L-L
Charlie
Welsh Roberto Carlos
Elmo
Whelan
Angela
Andre The Not Giant
Hourihane
Hogan
A can't see Hogan and Gabby starting together
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I haven't seen Villa play live since 2010, I think; so, I'll base my team selection on who I don't want in there as opposed to who I want to see there:
Steer/Bunn
Elmo Chester Terry Taylor
Whelan
Bacuna/Green Hourihane Amavi/Green
McCormack Hogan
Subs: Gabby, Lyden, Samba, Gardner, Thor, Lansbury, Steer/Bunn/Amavi/Green/Bacuna
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1-0 or Maybe 0-0
I reckon he'll go:
Johnstone / Steer
Hutton Chester Terry Taylor (nailed on this is our defence)
Bacuna Whelan (Bacuna looked sharp whereas hourihane hasn't)
Elmo Lansbury Green
Gabby
But personally I'd sacrifice the number 10 for Hogan and put Lansbury alongside Whelan for this game, even if it means ceding a bit of possession. A MoN style 442
Hull have sold Elmo Davies Maguire and Robertson this summer - a whole back four. Let's get at that defence
More I think about it, if all those listed above are fit, I can see that team playing on Saturday. If Johnstone doesn't make it, then I reckon it will be a bench of:
Bunn, Bree, Samba, Amavi, Hourihane, Bjarnason and Hogan.
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5-3
bacuna 3
hutton 2
windass hat trick for them
What you on and where can I get some?
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I'm so glad Villa are back though. Finally.
I had been enjoying my Saturdays ..
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Draw, 0-0 or 1-1
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Bunn, Bree, Samba, Amavi, Hourihane, Bjarnason and Hogan.
Cuthbert, Dibble, Grub.
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Bunn, Bree, Samba, Amavi, Hourihane, Bjarnason and Hogan.
Cuthbert, Dibble, Grub.
ALBERT TATLOCK....
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This will be my grandson's first game. He's 3 and a half months old.
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1-0 Win. Would be nice to start the season with 3 points.
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I haven't seen Villa play live since 2010, I think; so, I'll base my team selection on who I don't want in there as opposed to who I want to see there:
Steer/Bunn
Elmo Chester Terry Taylor
Whelan
Bacuna/Green Hourihane Amavi/Green
McCormack Hogan
Subs: Gabby, Lyden, Samba, Gardner, Thor, Lansbury, Steer/Bunn/Amavi/Green/Bacuna
You lucky lucky person!
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1-0 or Maybe 0-0
I reckon he'll go:
Johnstone / Steer
Hutton Chester Terry Taylor (nailed on this is our defence)
Bacuna Whelan (Bacuna looked sharp whereas hourihane hasn't)
Elmo Lansbury Green
Gabby
But personally I'd sacrifice the number 10 for Hogan and put Lansbury alongside Whelan for this game, even if it means ceding a bit of possession. A MoN style 442
Hull have sold Elmo Davies Maguire and Robertson this summer - a whole back four. Let's get at that defence
More I think about it, if all those listed above are fit, I can see that team playing on Saturday. If Johnstone doesn't make it, then I reckon it will be a bench of:
Bunn, Bree, Samba, Amavi, Hourihane, Bjarnason and Hogan.
I'd have Davis for Bree - we've got two sub right backs on the pitch already. Otherwise think this is how he'll go
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2-0 villa win
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Bunn, Bree, Samba, Amavi, Hourihane, Bjarnason and Hogan.
Cuthbert, Dibble, Grub.
ALBERT TATLOCK....
LEONARD ROSSITER...
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My start of the season arrogance is back in full force everyone. Don't worry you will only have to endure it a few days until we actually play :)
3-0 the mighty Aston Villa.
Hogan, Terry & Whelan.
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Neville Davitt
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A cautious 1-1.
Anyone got a link to a few of Hull's pre season games as I genuinely have no idea who's still there from end of last season and the make up of their squad so would like to have a check at what might be their likely line up.
They've drawn against Ajax 3-3, Nantes 0-0 and beat Benfica 1-0 in their last 3.
Yeah, but could they go away to Walsall and get a goalless draw?
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Draw 1-1 - The first of many.
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Snoozefest
0-0
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A dour 1-0 win. The first of many such results in the season ahead.
I agree .1-0 and not the last win by that scoreline this season.
I'll accept for one season only 46 of them
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http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/how-hull-city-line-up-259580
Quite a few unknowns in there. Clucas is a good player and Hernandez is a threat at this level. But surely that defence can be got at? I'm guessing they'll defend deep with Dawson in there. We haven't looked at all imaginative playing against that, including in pre season
I quite like the idea of green and Elmo getting at their full backs who both look very much untested according to this
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1-0. Terry.
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If we are going to go up this season, we cannot be losing home games.
I think the pressure is on from day 1 to get a result and build some early momentum and confidence.
1-0 Villa.
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If we are going to go up this season, we cannot be losing home games.
I think the pressure is on from day 1 to get a result and build some early momentum and confidence.
1-0 Villa.
Agreed. One thing is for sure with Terry in the squad there will be no hiding place in the dressing room. Because of that I'm going for a title win this season.
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If we are going to go up this season, we cannot be losing home games.
I think the pressure is on from day 1 to get a result and build some early momentum and confidence.
1-0 Villa.
I have just looked back at our opening results with SGT when last promoted and was surprised to see what a dodgy start we made - 1 win, 3 draws, 3 defeats. 1-1 away to Ipswich on the opening day then a 2-0 defeat at home to SHA. We actually failed to win in any of our first 7 home games.
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If we are going to go up this season, we cannot be losing home games.
I think the pressure is on from day 1 to get a result and build some early momentum and confidence.
1-0 Villa.
I have just looked back at our opening results with SGT when last promoted and was surprised to see what a dodgy start we made - 1 win, 3 draws, 3 defeats. 1-1 away to Ipswich on the opening day then a 2-0 defeat at home to SHA. We actually failed to win in any of our first 7 home games.
I understand your point, but there is a major factor in that season.
And lets face it, Steve Bruce is no Sir Graham Taylor.
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Probably 0-0.
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This will be my grandson's first game. He's 3 and a half months old.
He should replace the injured Jack Grelish then just behind the striker
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With the players in the squad that are available, I'd go...
4-4-2
Johnstone
Bree, Chester, Terry, Taylor
Elmo, Whelan, Hourahane, Amavi
Agbonlahor, Hogan
Subs: Bunn, Hutton, Samba, Lansbury, Bacuna, Green, Bjarnasson.
1-1, an uninspiring start.
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If we are going to go up this season, we cannot be losing home games.
I think the pressure is on from day 1 to get a result and build some early momentum and confidence.
1-0 Villa.
I have just looked back at our opening results with SGT when last promoted and was surprised to see what a dodgy start we made - 1 win, 3 draws, 3 defeats. 1-1 away to Ipswich on the opening day then a 2-0 defeat at home to SHA. We actually failed to win in any of our first 7 home games.
I understand your point, but there is a major factor in that season.
And lets face it, Steve Bruce is no Sir Graham Taylor.
Of course he isn't, and I don't expect him to find a Platt either.
If we get off to a slow start I just hope we don't press the panic button. We have changed managers at an alarming rate in recent years.
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This will be my grandson's first game. He's 3 and a half months old.
He should replace the injured Jack Grelish then just behind the striker
Lol. Is it me or are footballers getting younger these days?
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This will be my grandson's first game. He's 3 and a half months old.
He should replace the injured Jack Grelish then just behind the striker
Good idea, I bet he's brilliant at dribbling.
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It's really going to pain me to see that twat John Terry playing in a Villa shirt.
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This will be my grandson's first game. He's 3 and a half months old.
He should replace the injured Jack Grelish then just behind the striker
Good idea, I bet he's brilliant at dribbling.
And playing the dummy
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Because their owner's a ****** - fuck the fuckers!
Villa 3-0
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We're going to bum them back into the stone age. 1-0 then.
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On sky and first day of my holiday, past performance indicates a loss (Newcastle was first day of my hols they thumped us then, blues enkleman game was first day of my honeymoon)
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A dull as ditchwater 0-0.
Mr Optomistic me but I can't remember ever being less enthusiastic at the start of a season
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Because their owner's a c*** - fuck the fuckers!
Villa 3-0
I like their owner. He's right, "Hull City" is a massively unoriginal and boring name. "Hull Tigers" is much better.
Anyway, 0-0.
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Because their owner's a c*** - fuck the fuckers!
Villa 3-0
I like their owner. He's right, "Hull City" is a massively unoriginal and boring name. "Hull Tigers" is much better.
Anyway, 0-0.
I feel the same about us sharing our name with Pelsall. Boring. I'd much prefer we changed to the B6 Bullets.
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My son's fifth birthday. 1-0 to the team he's aware of, wears kits of, but cares little for.
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A dull as ditchwater 0-0.
Mr Optomistic me but I can't remember ever being less enthusiastic at the start of a season
For 33 years I've been saying that as dishwater instead of ditchwater. If only I'd of known.
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4-4-1-1
Johnstone
Hutton, Chester, Terry, Taylor
Elmo, Whelan, Hourahane, Green
Lansbury
Hogan
Subs: Steer, Bree, Samba, Amavi, Gabby, Bacuna, Bjarnasson.
2-0 win Terry,Gabby
And Small Heath to lose at the Tractor Boys
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On sky and first day of my holiday, past performance indicates a loss (Newcastle was first day of my hols they thumped us then, blues enkleman game was first day of my honeymoon)
I am off on holiday on Friday. Therefore miss the game and doubtless a resounding victory.
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On sky and first day of my holiday, past performance indicates a loss (Newcastle was first day of my hols they thumped us then, blues enkleman game was first day of my honeymoon)
I am off on holiday on Friday. Therefore miss the game and doubtless a resounding victory.
I'm at the athletics watching Usain Bolt in the 100m so expecting to miss a classic win - hoping he doesn't false start himself out in the early rounds !
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Because their owner's a c*** - fuck the fuckers!
Villa 3-0
I like their owner. He's right, "Hull City" is a massively unoriginal and boring name. "Hull Tigers" is much better.
Anyway, 0-0.
I feel the same about us sharing our name with Pelsall. Boring. I'd much prefer we changed to the B6 Bullets.
Our name is superb. "Hull City" is atrocious. Not sure what there is to gain by pretending otherwise?
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On holiday from tonight so me and the lad will watch in a bar, but agree with a few, not optimistic and already gone for a draw, my lad thinks a Villa win, good on him !!
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Because their owner's a c*** - fuck the fuckers!
Villa 3-0
I like their owner. He's right, "Hull City" is a massively unoriginal and boring name. "Hull Tigers" is much better.
Anyway, 0-0.
I feel the same about us sharing our name with Pelsall. Boring. I'd much prefer we changed to the B6 Bullets.
Our name is superb. "Hull City" is atrocious. Not sure what there is to gain by pretending otherwise?
You started the nonsense CD.
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Because their owner's a c*** - fuck the fuckers!
Villa 3-0
I like their owner. He's right, "Hull City" is a massively unoriginal and boring name. "Hull Tigers" is much better.
Anyway, 0-0.
I feel the same about us sharing our name with Pelsall. Boring. I'd much prefer we changed to the B6 Bullets.
Our name is superb. "Hull City" is atrocious. Not sure what there is to gain by pretending otherwise?
It really is. The owner is right here. Changing the name to something less naff would have helped them. Also I note the fact they dont want to be called "The Tigers" doesnt stop them doing this shite.
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4-4-1-1
Johnstone
Hutton, Chester, Terry, Taylor
Elmo, Whelan, Hourahane, Green
Lansbury
Hogan
Subs: Steer, Bree, Samba, Amavi, Gabby, Bacuna, Bjarnasson.
2-0 win Terry,Gabby
And Small Heath to lose at the Tractor Boys
9 out of 11 I reckon. Swap Bacuna and Gabby for Hourihane and Hogan and I reckon it is full house.
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My lad came to his first game at VP just before his fourth birthday. We beat Hull 1-0 with a goal from John Carew.
So as he's coming Saturday, I'll go full circle - we'll win 1-0 with a goal from John Carew.
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My lad came to his first game at VP just before his fourth birthday. We beat Hull 1-0 with a goal from John Carew.
So as he's coming Saturday, I'll go full circle - we'll win 1-0 with a goal from John Carew.
Based purely on this i'm changing my prediction from 0-0 to 1-0. James Chester to score and continue the JC trend.
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A dull as ditchwater 0-0.
Mr Optomistic me but I can't remember ever being less enthusiastic at the start of a season
For 33 years I've been saying that as dishwater instead of ditchwater. If only I'd of known.
Both are fine, you haven't looked an idiot all that time. At least, not for that.
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My lad came to his first game at VP just before his fourth birthday. We beat Hull 1-0 with a goal from John Carew.
So as he's coming Saturday, I'll go full circle - we'll win 1-0 with a goal from John Carew.
Based purely on this i'm changing my prediction from 0-0 to 1-0. James Chester to score and continue the JC trend.
Assist from Sidwell warming up or was that a different game?
Edit: We were a real bogey team for Hull in their premier league appearences, don't think they've taken even a point at Villa Park.
Also remember playing them in the FA cup under Gregory when we were top of the prem and they were bottom of the football league.
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The Sidwell game was 3-0, although Carew did score in that one too.
I THINK the Carew 1-0 was a header with him celebrating by kicking the coener flag into the crowd.
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Maybe it was winter and he wore gloves and short-sleeved?
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Will go for a scarpy 1-0 with Green getting off the mark. Think Hull might struggle this season.
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3-1 Villa
Hourihane, Hogan, Green with ours
og for them.
Please no Agbonlahor, Bacuna or Hutton. Though I bet they all start.
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Will go for a scarpy 1-0 with Green getting off the mark. Think Hull might struggle this season.
They had a decent pre season and took a couple of Chelsea lads on loan. I hope you're right but seem like an unknown quantity particularly with the new manager
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3-1 Villa
Hourihane, Hogan, Green with ours
og for them.
Please no Agbonlahor, Bacuna or Hutton. Though I bet they all start.
I think there is a good chance.
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The Sidwell game was 3-0, although Carew did score in that one too.
I THINK the Carew 1-0 was a header with him celebrating by kicking the coener flag into the crowd.
No, the corner flag was a 1-0 win over Stoke, December 2009. The 1-0 win over Hull was May 2009, on a Moday night. Carew scored and we won 1-0.
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Because their owner's a c*** - fuck the fuckers!
Villa 3-0
I like their owner. He's right, "Hull City" is a massively unoriginal and boring name. "Hull Tigers" is much better.
Anyway, 0-0.
I feel the same about us sharing our name with Pelsall. Boring. I'd much prefer we changed to the B6 Bullets.
Our name is superb. "Hull City" is atrocious. Not sure what there is to gain by pretending otherwise?
You started the nonsense CD.
What "nonsense"? You think "City" is a decent name for a team?
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It better be a straight forward win Mr Bruce nothing else will do. 2-0
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Because their owner's a c*** - fuck the fuckers!
Villa 3-0
I like their owner. He's right, "Hull City" is a massively unoriginal and boring name. "Hull Tigers" is much better.
Anyway, 0-0.
I feel the same about us sharing our name with Pelsall. Boring. I'd much prefer we changed to the B6 Bullets.
Our name is superb. "Hull City" is atrocious. Not sure what there is to gain by pretending otherwise?
You started the nonsense CD.
What "nonsense"? You think "City" is a decent name for a team?
No I think football supporters deserve not to be dicked about by moronic owners who suggest changing the name of their effing football club. Hull is a city. Hull City FC. Fucks sake.
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Were the fans dicked about when the original owners decided to name a football club Aston Villa?
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Were the fans dicked about when the original owners decided to name a football club Aston Villa?
Take a step back, engage your brain and read our exchange.
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How is changing the name to something less tedious and unoriginal "dicking the fans around"?
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Sorry to change the subject
2-1 Villa win
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Always difficult to predict first game of the season so I'm going for a 1-1 draw.
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3-0, lets get this promotion party started.
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How is changing the name to something less tedious and unoriginal "dicking the fans around"?
Well it's not if you have absolutely no sense of history and tradition.
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Tight defence, limp attack (sounds like an advert for KY Jelly and Viagra)
Can only see a 0-0
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It better be a straight forward win Mr Bruce nothing else will do. 2-0
How on earth should the first game of a new season, injuries being a factor, against anyone be straight forward, purely because our remit long term is promtion?
If we don't win 2-0 and comfortably we should sack him straight away?
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For the record I see 1-1 and we build on that.
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Win. 1-0.
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It better be a straight forward win Mr Bruce nothing else will do. 2-0
How on earth should the first game of a new season, injuries being a factor, against anyone be straight forward, purely because our remit long term is promtion?
If we don't win 2-0 and comfortably we should sack him straight away?
Yes that's what I said ::)
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Were the fans dicked about when the original owners decided to name a football club Aston Villa?
Take a step back, engage your brain and read our exchange.
Why are you assuming I have a brain? :)
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How is changing the name to something less tedious and unoriginal "dicking the fans around"?
Well it's not if you have absolutely no sense of history and tradition.
I was talking about Hull. They have no history or tradition. They'd be better changing their name and having a new start. About 90% of clubs have changed their name at some point. Presumably they all abandoned their "history and tradition" and nobody should support them any more?
Clubs like Villa, Wednesday, Forest, Hotspur, and so on, have interesting names and should keep them. Boring Uniteds, Citys, and Towns should change. The English language has hundreds of thousands of words, there is no need to be so pathetically unoriginal.
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Nothing else will do certainly alludes to that.
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How is changing the name to something less tedious and unoriginal "dicking the fans around"?
Well it's not if you have absolutely no sense of history and tradition.
I was talking about Hull. They have no history or tradition. They'd be better changing their name and having a new start. About 90% of clubs have changed their name at some point. Presumably they all abandoned their "history and tradition" and nobody should support them any more?
Clubs like Villa, Wednesday, Forest, Hotspur, and so on, have interesting names and should keep them. Boring Uniteds, Citys, and Towns should change. The English language has hundreds of thousands of words, there is no need to be so pathetically unoriginal.
What on earth are you talking about..."Boring Towns should change"?
So Huddersfield should lose Town as there are multiple others.
Winner of numpty comment of the year.
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Town, United and City are boring names. I've no idea who was first. If it was Huddersfield then they should still be called Town. If not, they should change.
I think the Numpty Post of the Year Trophy is still safe in your possession after your "we all laugh at racist jokes so calling someone a black bastard is harmless, really" comment.
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Town, United and City are boring names. I've no idea who was first. If it was Huddersfield then they should still be called Town. If not, they should change.
I think the Numpty Post of the Year Trophy is still safe in your possession after your "we all laugh at racist jokes so calling someone a black bastard is harmless, really" comment.
Your use of quoting me is incorrect as those words were never displayed by myself on any post.
Pulling the race card and slandering me is not cool.
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I paraphrased. That's basically what you said. And you don't understand the term "playing the race card". I can't say I'm shocked at you displaying your stupidity again.
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Ah basically what I said, loosely translated as I never actually said that.
Let's leave that debate where it belongs hey and get back on topic.
Towns, United et al maybe "boring" in your little fans bullying world, but they were created 100 years ago and are important and traditional to the fans whom follow them.
Is Park boring for our stadium name? Shall we change that as there are multiple other venues with park in the name?
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No, our ground is synonymous with history and tradition in a way that Hull City aren't. Plus addresses tend to be generic. Most of us live on a Road, Avenue, Street, etc.
The club name is the club's identity. It shouldn't just be boring copycat nonsense. I couldn't tell you, off the top of my head, what colours Exeter City or Torquay United play in, but I can picture Plymouth Argyle. Their decision to not be boring helps them stand out and be memorable.
And 90% of clubs have changed their names anyway. Noone died in the process.
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Now you're just lying, everyone on this forum could say In an instance what colours those teams play in.
So Man Utd chose to be boring after Newton Heath?
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It's dreadfully arrogant to suggest a fanbase who love their club just as we do should have some dickhead owner foist a new name or club colours upon them. At first I thought you were being tongue in cheek CD but when I realised you were serious by feebly defending your paperweight argument I wasn't impressed. Have a word with yourself buddy.
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Don't know about anyone else but those two are boring the nuts off me
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My father was born in Hull and he always says there are three teams in Hull. ..hull Kingston rovers, Hull City and hull. The mention of Hull City changing their name has an 88 year old man going off into a rant that is only usually reserved for poor villa performances.
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Ah basically what I said, loosely translated as I never actually said that.
Let's leave that debate where it belongs hey and get back on topic.
Towns, United et al maybe "boring" in your little fans bullying world, but they were created 100 years ago and are important and traditional to the fans whom follow them.
Is Park boring for our stadium name? Shall we change that as there are multiple other venues with park in the name?
Yeah I think The Villadrome would be great. Much less boring than dull old Villa Park
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Because their owner's a c*** - fuck the fuckers!
Villa 3-0
I like their owner. He's right, "Hull City" is a massively unoriginal and boring name. "Hull Tigers" is much better.
Anyway, 0-0.
I feel the same about us sharing our name with Pelsall. Boring. I'd much prefer we changed to the B6 Bullets.
Our name is superb. "Hull City" is atrocious. Not sure what there is to gain by pretending otherwise?
You started the nonsense CD.
What "nonsense"? You think "City" is a decent name for a team?
No I think football supporters deserve not to be dicked about by moronic owners who suggest changing the name of their effing football club. Hull is a city. Hull City FC. Fucks sake.
Hull actually isn't a city but Kingston upon Hull is.
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Ah basically what I said, loosely translated as I never actually said that.
Let's leave that debate where it belongs hey and get back on topic.
Towns, United et al maybe "boring" in your little fans bullying world, but they were created 100 years ago and are important and traditional to the fans whom follow them.
Is Park boring for our stadium name? Shall we change that as there are multiple other venues with park in the name?
Yeah I think The Villadrome would be great. Much less boring than dull old Villa Park
Much prefer The Villa Bella myself, as long as I don't get hit on the head with a brick like uncle Albert.
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Now you're just lying, everyone on this forum could say In an instance what colours those teams play in.
So Man Utd chose to be boring after Newton Heath?
Yes! They are the textbook example. Used to have an interesting name, Newton Heath Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway Institute. Changed it to generic "Nameofcity Tediousname" dullness. Went from interesting (though admittedly horrible) colours to the most boring colours in football. They couldn't even think of a name for the stadium, they had to copy the cricket club!
Great example, thanks. "Manchester United" is about as boring a name as it's possible to get. They should definitely change it back.
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It's dreadfully arrogant to suggest a fanbase who love their club just as we do should have some dickhead owner foist a new name or club colours upon them. At first I thought you were being tongue in cheek CD but when I realised you were serious by feebly defending your paperweight argument I wasn't impressed. Have a word with yourself buddy.
If they love their club just as much as we do, I'm sure changing from a boring name to a much better one wouldn't be enough to put them off going.
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Because their owner's a c*** - fuck the fuckers!
Villa 3-0
I like their owner. He's right, "Hull City" is a massively unoriginal and boring name. "Hull Tigers" is much better.
Anyway, 0-0.
I feel the same about us sharing our name with Pelsall. Boring. I'd much prefer we changed to the B6 Bullets.
Our name is superb. "Hull City" is atrocious. Not sure what there is to gain by pretending otherwise?
You started the nonsense CD.
What "nonsense"? You think "City" is a decent name for a team?
No I think football supporters deserve not to be dicked about by moronic owners who suggest changing the name of their effing football club. Hull is a city. Hull City FC. Fucks sake.
Hull actually isn't a city but Kingston upon Hull is.
Not a lot of people know that!
I can't wait for the season to kick off so people can have something that's actually important to get their knickers in a twist over.
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Because their owner's a c*** - fuck the fuckers!
Villa 3-0
I like their owner. He's right, "Hull City" is a massively unoriginal and boring name. "Hull Tigers" is much better.
Anyway, 0-0.
I feel the same about us sharing our name with Pelsall. Boring. I'd much prefer we changed to the B6 Bullets.
Our name is superb. "Hull City" is atrocious. Not sure what there is to gain by pretending otherwise?
You started the nonsense CD.
What "nonsense"? You think "City" is a decent name for a team?
No I think football supporters deserve not to be dicked about by moronic owners who suggest changing the name of their effing football club. Hull is a city. Hull City FC. Fucks sake.
Hull actually isn't a city but Kingston upon Hull is.
When I was at University there I tired of Hullensians constantly insisting it was referred to as Kingston Upon Hull. Thanks for schooling me and lending your considerable argument to the table.
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How boring is Real Madrid, don't start me on FC Barcelona, they couldnt even be bothered with a Real or Atletico.
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It's dreadfully arrogant to suggest a fanbase who love their club just as we do should have some dickhead owner foist a new name or club colours upon them. At first I thought you were being tongue in cheek CD but when I realised you were serious by feebly defending your paperweight argument I wasn't impressed. Have a word with yourself buddy.
If they love their club just as much as we do, I'm sure changing from a boring name to a much better one wouldn't be enough to put them off going.
It was enough to make them go fucking ballistic mate! They didn't boycott because it never happened.
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It's dreadfully arrogant to suggest a fanbase who love their club just as we do should have some dickhead owner foist a new name or club colours upon them. At first I thought you were being tongue in cheek CD but when I realised you were serious by feebly defending your paperweight argument I wasn't impressed. Have a word with yourself buddy.
If they love their club just as much as we do, I'm sure changing from a boring name to a much better one wouldn't be enough to put them off going.
I don't support Aston Villa for the name. I support them because my family does. The fact we have a lovely, unique name is warming but irrelevant. My team could have been Beige Town F.C but my links and support would have been the same. Look at you CD. Aren't you lucky to support Villa? Pity the poor generations of fucks who support Hull City.Let's applaud their 'likeable' owner for riding roughshod over these dullards and change their beloved club name.
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It's dreadfully arrogant to suggest a fanbase who love their club just as we do should have some dickhead owner foist a new name or club colours upon them. At first I thought you were being tongue in cheek CD but when I realised you were serious by feebly defending your paperweight argument I wasn't impressed. Have a word with yourself buddy.
If they love their club just as much as we do, I'm sure changing from a boring name to a much better one wouldn't be enough to put them off going.
I don't support Aston Villa for the name. I support them because my family does. The fact we have a lovely, unique name is warming but irrelevant. My team could have been Beige Town F.C but my links and support would have been the same. Look at you CD. Aren't you lucky to support Villa? Pity the poor generations of fucks who support Hull City.Let's applaud their 'likeable' owner for riding roughshod over these dullards and change their beloved club name.
You're taking an inference that isn't there. I've no problem with Hull City or their fans. I think they should change their name, though.
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It's dreadfully arrogant to suggest a fanbase who love their club just as we do should have some dickhead owner foist a new name or club colours upon them. At first I thought you were being tongue in cheek CD but when I realised you were serious by feebly defending your paperweight argument I wasn't impressed. Have a word with yourself buddy.
If they love their club just as much as we do, I'm sure changing from a boring name to a much better one wouldn't be enough to put them off going.
I don't support Aston Villa for the name. I support them because my family does. The fact we have a lovely, unique name is warming but irrelevant. My team could have been Beige Town F.C but my links and support would have been the same. Look at you CD. Aren't you lucky to support Villa? Pity the poor generations of fucks who support Hull City.Let's applaud their 'likeable' owner for riding roughshod over these dullards and change their beloved club name.
You're taking an inference that isn't there. I've no problem with Hull City or their fans. I think they should change their name, though.
Well then you're ignorant of the real threat to their name and their fervent opposition to it. As a self confessed football fan I'm aghast you'd need to be made aware of it.
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Suggestions for new club names to replace boring ones:
Arsenal Red Blaze,
Chelskovich Blue Thunder,
Manchester Red Crew,
Manchester Blue Crew,
Portsmouth Pirates,
Huddersfield Trotters
Cardiff Red Dragons.. Oh wait....
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I'm aware that some of their fans don't like the proposed name change. It doesn't make me "ignorant" if I disagree with them.
In any case, it doesn't seem to be as clear cut as you make out.
http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/26921004
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Can someone please make it stop?
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Ffs roll on Saturday 2-0 to the Villa boys.
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Ffs roll on Saturday 2-0 to the Villa boys.
Are you in the right thread?
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Suggestions for new club names to replace boring ones:
Arsenal Red Blaze,
Chelskovich Blue Thunder,
Manchester Red Crew,
Manchester Blue Crew,
Portsmouth Pirates,
Huddersfield Trotters
Cardiff Red Dragons.. Oh wait....
I've said I'm happy with one-word names. It's not unoriginal if it's the name of your town/city/district. So Arsenal, Chelsea or Portsmouth are fine.
I believe that Man City were the first to be called City so they can keep the name.
I'm not sure about Huddersfield. If they were the first team called Town they can keep it, otherwise they should change. Not "Trotters" though, as that's Bolton's nickname. Huddersfield Terriers or, just, "Huddersfield" would be fine.
Cardiff City should obviously change. It's a terrible name. Dragons is better, IMO.
I've already said Man Utd should change. Is anyone, seriously, trying to claim that the unbelievably generic and boring "Manchester United" is a more interesting name than "Newton Heath Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway Institute"? You must be on a wind-up, if so.
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Can someone please make it stop?
Yes. Sorry.
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Suggestions for new club names to replace boring ones:
Arsenal Red Blaze,
Chelskovich Blue Thunder,
Manchester Red Crew,
Manchester Blue Crew,
Portsmouth Pirates,
Huddersfield Trotters
Cardiff Red Dragons.. Oh wait....
I've said I'm happy with one-word names. It's not unoriginal if it's the name of your town/city/district. So Arsenal, Chelsea or Portsmouth are fine.
I believe that Man City were the first to be called City so they can keep the name.
I'm not sure about Huddersfield. If they were the first team called Town they can keep it, otherwise they should change. Not "Trotters" though, as that's Bolton's nickname. Huddersfield Terriers or, just, "Huddersfield" would be fine.
Cardiff City should obviously change. It's a terrible name. Dragons is better, IMO.
I've already said Man Utd should change. Is anyone, seriously, trying to claim that the unbelievably generic and boring "Manchester United" is a more interesting name than "Newton Heath Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway Institute"? You must be on a wind-up, if so.
We've got Cardiff away in a couple of weeks. If you want to stand in one of their pubs and tell them they should change their name to Cardiff Dragons I'll be quite happy to hold your coat.
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Just because I don't like being punched, doesn't mean I don't think they should change their name.
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It's dreadfully arrogant to suggest a fanbase who love their club just as we do should have some dickhead owner foist a new name or club colours upon them. At first I thought you were being tongue in cheek CD but when I realised you were serious by feebly defending your paperweight argument I wasn't impressed. Have a word with yourself buddy.
If they love their club just as much as we do, I'm sure changing from a boring name to a much better one wouldn't be enough to put them off going.
I don't support Aston Villa for the name. I support them because my family does. The fact we have a lovely, unique name is warming but irrelevant. My team could have been Beige Town F.C but my links and support would have been the same. Look at you CD. Aren't you lucky to support Villa? Pity the poor generations of fucks who support Hull City.Let's applaud their 'likeable' owner for riding roughshod over these dullards and change their beloved club name.
You're taking an inference that isn't there. I've no problem with Hull City or their fans. I think they should change their name, though.
Well then you're ignorant of the real threat to their name and their fervent opposition to it. As a self confessed football fan I'm aghast you'd need to be made aware of it.
I'm agog at your being aghast.
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Villareal, how dare they merge two of the greatest clubs ever.
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Idrissa left ages ago... you should really change your bloody name... 😠
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Because their owner's a c*** - fuck the fuckers!
Villa 3-0
I like their owner. He's right, "Hull City" is a massively unoriginal and boring name. "Hull Tigers" is much better.
Anyway, 0-0.
I feel the same about us sharing our name with Pelsall. Boring. I'd much prefer we changed to the B6 Bullets.
Our name is superb. "Hull City" is atrocious. Not sure what there is to gain by pretending otherwise?
You started the nonsense CD.
What "nonsense"? You think "City" is a decent name for a team?
No I think football supporters deserve not to be dicked about by moronic owners who suggest changing the name of their effing football club. Hull is a city. Hull City FC. Fucks sake.
Hull actually isn't a city but Kingston upon Hull is.
Not a lot of people know that!
I can't wait for the season to kick off so people can have something that's actually important to get their knickers in a twist over.
Sorry, but it needed to be stated as it was bugging me like an incorrect use of an apostrophe.
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Been doing a bit of research and Chippenham seem to be the first "Town". Huddersfield have to change.
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Hope to fk we were the first Villa, CD, for your sake ;)
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We were, I've checked.
Never realised what Bristol Rovers used to be called before... 😮
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We were, I've checked.
Never realised what Bristol Rovers used to be called before... 😮
Yep, I don't think that my second team could ever go back to their original name
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The Boston Americans?
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I think Sheffield United were the first 'United'.
I also heard an argument that Newcastle United have an earlier founding date. The theory being that they weren't formed from a merger between Newcastle East End and Newcastle West End. West End went bust and East End took their ground, but otherwise just changed their name to Newcastle United to try to increase their fanbase.
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2-0
Hogan and Lansbury to score.
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Take any kind of win. Hull goosed Leicester first game last season so not counting any chickens
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Take any kind of win. Hull goosed Leicester first game last season so not counting any chickens
Same for me. We simply must start well. I don't want us to be thinking 'it's only two points off automatic' by September, and then before we know it it'll 'only' be six points off the play offs.
Get the win and carry on.
1-0 Villa. I don't care who scores it.
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I have counted the chickens AND assembled all the ingredients for the celebratory omelette.
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I've had enough of this season already.
Can't wait till it ends.
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The Boston Americans?
OK, if you're talking all sports, I should have said "my fourth team" on the basis that Aston Villa are my third team after the Red Sox and Lydney RFC
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Villa win and Lansbury to score. He started last season off v well when playing the 10 role and I'm Expecting the same
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Absolutely no idea. Hedging my bets with a draw
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1-0 lansbury(pen)
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1-0 lansbury(pen)
After last Saturday's effort, he will hopefully be nowhere near taking a penalty if we get one.
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If Gabby's playing, I suspect that he'll be the penalty taker
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Precious few goals until Kodjia comes back so - 0-0.
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I know its only the first game of the season but we really need to win this one. The games come thick and fast in August. Cardiff and Reading away will not be easy, followed by Norwich at home, so a win will give us some confidence going into these games. Might not be a bad idea not to dick around with Colchester either to get a couple of back-to-back wins under our belt.
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1-0 lansbury(pen)
After last Saturday's effort, he will hopefully be nowhere near taking a penalty if we get one.
Hasn't he scored three out of four for us? Not a disastrous strike rate.
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I'd go with a standard 4-4-2
Johnstone (Steer if Johnstone is still injured)
Hutton
Chester
Terry
Taylor
Bjarnson
Whelan
Hourihane
Elmo
Hogan
Gabby
If the two up front isn't working I'd bring Lansbury on and play him behind Hogan 2nd half.
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I'd go with a standard 4-4-2
Johnstone (Steer if Johnstone is still injured)
Hutton
Chester
Terry
Taylor
Bjarnson
Whelan
Hourihane
Elmo
Hogan
Gabby
If the two up front isn't working I'd bring Lansbury on and play him behind Hogan 2nd half.
I suspect this is pretty much it. A more likely change ould be to see someone like Amavi come on for Gabby and BB move in behind Hogan.
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I'd go with a standard 4-4-2
Johnstone (Steer if Johnstone is still injured)
Hutton
Chester
Terry
Taylor
Bjarnson
Whelan
Hourihane
Elmo
Hogan
Gabby
If the two up front isn't working I'd bring Lansbury on and play him behind Hogan 2nd half.
I suspect this is pretty much it. A more likely change ould be to see someone like Amavi come on for Gabby and BB move in behind Hogan.
Think I'd leave Gabby on the bench and play Lansbury giving the option of bringing on Gabby when they are tiring.
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I know its only the first game of the season but we really need to win this one.
Is this the earliest ever sighting of "we really need to win this one"?
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I'd go with a standard 4-4-2
Johnstone (Steer if Johnstone is still injured)
Hutton
Chester
Terry
Taylor
Bjarnson
Whelan
Hourihane
Elmo
Hogan
Gabby
If the two up front isn't working I'd bring Lansbury on and play him behind Hogan 2nd half.
I suspect this is pretty much it. A more likely change ould be to see someone like Amavi come on for Gabby and BB move in behind Hogan.
I suspect that the defence will be right, Green will play on the left with Bacuna partnering Whelan in midfield and Lansbury will be just in behind Gabby.
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I suspect that the defence will be right, Green will play on the left with Bacuna partnering Whelan in midfield and Lansbury will be just in behind Gabby.
Which is still a pretty decent 11, and more than enough to beat Hull. A good start and I can see us bossing this division all season, they need some confidence and for Bruce to let them play farther up the pitch. If we come out of the traps fast I think he will run with it.
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3.0. Top of the league.
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Hull have got some good players at this level
It's their defence I think we can get at.
Apparently you can get 80-1 on Terry 1-0 . .
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Match abandoned due to Hull's coach accidentally wandering onto the closed Aston Expressway and being taken out by anti-terror police.
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I know its only the first game of the season but we really need to win this one.
Is this the earliest ever sighting of "we really need to win this one"?
Agree with jwarry on this one. Just take one look at the table. We are only separated by alphabetical order, that's how tight it is! This is a classic six-pointer, against our title/promotion/playoff/relegation rivals, if ever I saw one.
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As I've already said, this will be one of the easiest games of the season. Think West Ham, August 2010.
I'm sticking with 4-0.
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As I've already said, this will be one of the easiest games of the season. Think West Ham, August 2010.
I'm sticking with 4-0.
Agree
I'm going with a Hull supporting relative and he's telling me they've sold all the decent players they have, not bothered replacing them, and look destined to go down rather than up.
If we can't beat this shit, we might as well give up.
Win by 3 goals*
* fuck knows how we're going to actually score those goals, though.
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Hernandez, Diomande, Clucas, Grosicki are all good players at prem level
But I agree the squad otherwise has players I've never seen plus Michael Dawson
Just hoping we've got the punch to hurt the when we're on top (which I expect to be for large spells)
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When was the last time we scored 4 in a game? We'll huff and puff to a 1-0 and make an easy job look difficult. That's us.
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2-2.
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If I get in then 4-0 to the villa if however I am still Queing up for my reprint of st then 0-0 and I hope it's a horrible game ha ha
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When was the last time we scored 4 in a game? We'll huff and puff to a 1-0 and make an easy job look difficult. That's us.
Sunderland away under Sherwood. Only time we've scored 4 in a league game the last 3 seasons.
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All goals came in the first half too!
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Wonder if Onomah will start? Would assume he's sub but you never know
If so I reckon it's Lansbury and whelan alongside him, Elmo and green wide, and probably gabby up top
Pretty pumped for tomorrow now. Just win villa. Any sort will do frankly
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What we don't want to be looking at tomorrow evening is 'reality check' posts.
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What we don't want to be looking at tomorrow evening is 'reality check' posts.
There will undoubtedly be a lot of toys out the pram if we lose tomorrow or possibly even draw.
It's worth remembering though that Newcastle lost their first 2 games last season and still went up automatically very easily.
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Wonder if Onomah will start? Would assume he's sub but you never know
If so I reckon it's Lansbury and whelan alongside him, Elmo and green wide, and probably gabby up top
Pretty pumped for tomorrow now. Just win villa. Any sort will do frankly
Bruce would be mad do start him so soon but I reckon it's odds on he will get a run out in the cup game.
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What we don't want to be looking at tomorrow evening is 'reality check' posts.
We definitely don't want articles by Dave titled 'Reality Check' or 'Brought Back Down To Earth'.
Or 'No Bonus For Brucie'.
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I`d settle for "just the ticket"
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Wonder if Onomah will start? Would assume he's sub but you never know
If so I reckon it's Lansbury and whelan alongside him, Elmo and green wide, and probably gabby up top
Pretty pumped for tomorrow now. Just win villa. Any sort will do frankly
Bruce would be mad do start him so soon but I reckon it's odds on he will get a run out in the cup game.
He'll come off the bench with 10 minutes to go replacing Lansbury who I expect he'll be fighting with for a start this season.
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2-1
I actually dreamt 2-0 with Gabby scoring a one on one, but that was pure fantasy clearly
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Taking a friend to her first Villa game tomorrow. Has anyone got that awesome video clip of the Holte End holding its breath just before we scored then going mental...think it was vs West Brom or Birmingham?
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At the end of the day if we want promotion then we have to win games like this.There can be no excuses for if we fail to get promotion this season we could finish up outside the prem for a long time.
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Taking my 6 and a bit oldest boy as part of his regular 3 monthly visit to VP hoping this sparks his interest. I'm toying with the idea of just taking him every week but don't want to put him off. Hardly go these days so am banking on him getting the groove then his 2 younger brothers will follow and my Saturdays will be rescued from the oblivion of shopping & National Trust days out.
A comfortable 2-0 to ease our way gently into the season. Terry to score to further put pressure on the club shop to find more "r"s.
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Taking a friend to her first Villa game tomorrow. Has anyone got that awesome video clip of the Holte End holding its breath just before we scored then going mental...think it was vs West Brom or Birmingham?
[/quoteI think youre talking about West Brom, but I can't do clips :-[ , it's on youtube though.
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Taking a friend to her first Villa game tomorrow. Has anyone got that awesome video clip of the Holte End holding its breath just before we scored then going mental...think it was vs West Brom or Birmingham?
Are you sure about this, it might just scare the life out of her? Here you go..The Bitters
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The fan cam doesn't show the one angle of the crowd before Delph scored. That was on the 'Aston Villa That's Who' video but they've changed that.
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Taking a friend to her first Villa game tomorrow. Has anyone got that awesome video clip of the Holte End holding its breath just before we scored then going mental...think it was vs West Brom or Birmingham?
If you type in "the Holte end singing Don't look back in Anger" on you tube. The one after the Blues game. The official one with a fish eye camera at the front of the Holte is pretty special.
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The fan cam doesn't show the one angle of the crowd before Delph scored. That was on the 'Aston Villa That's Who' video but they've changed that.
Thanks all...but yeah I'm looking for the goal went in looking at the Holte from the lower left corner. I've searched all over YouTube but can't find it...is it anywhere online still?
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Not that I know of. The videos by the guy that did the filming that day have all gone and The Villa Decree original video with it on has been pulled from Youtube with this message "This video contains content from UEFA, who has blocked it on copyright grounds"
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I`d settle for "just the ticket"
I would settle for "hull get the tonking thats been coming for the past 5 seasons"
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For me it would be "Lions Maul Tigers"
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"Tiger fuckers fucked"
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Any predatory animal combo without the word "Savage".
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Lions trump Tigers
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Hi All!
We're back... with a Villa win. I'm not expecting anything exciting (I rarely do) but 1-0 would be fine.
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Win please.
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Not at the game today and will be absent from Villa Park for the next 2months as I'm out of the country. Come on you Villa boys, give us the start we all dream of! I will be following games, transfers etc closely. UTV, VTID, DLBIA the Villa say!
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For me it would be "Lions Maul Tigers"
Slightly off track;
If it was a mascot battle, this is one we'd actually lose.
I'd fancy us against the Robins or Cherries though.
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Not at the game today and will be absent from Villa Park for the next 2months as I'm out of the country. Come on you Villa boys, give us the start we all dream of! I will be following games, transfers etc closely. UTV, VTID, DLBIA the Villa say!
If we're top after 10 games you're not allowed back!
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For me it would be "Lions Maul Tigers"
Slightly off track;
If it was a mascot battle, this is one we'd actually lose.
I'd fancy us against the Robins or Cherries though.
What about The Shrimps?
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I can see a decent win today - say 3-0. Partly its my rose tinted spectacles but also Hull are in a mess. Six loan players back to their parent clubs and a squad decimated by sales and injury. There can be no better time to play this lot and hit the ground running.
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How about 'Fanzine ends after editor wins Euromillions'?
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2-1 to us in a tight game, would love some free flowing football with us putting Hull to the sword but just cant see it, just win Villa.
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Fanzine continues after editor finds out he only won a tenner.
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Heavy rain atm although think it will clear up by mid afternoon. Reminds me of the Bolton home game years back when you needed an ark to get to the ground for the opening day.
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How about 'Fanzine ends after editor wins Euromillions'?
I represent a senior member of the Nigerian Royal Family, Mr Woodhall, and because of political unrest and fears for their safety my contact wishes to move some of his considerable assets to a 'safe haven'. For a substantial consideration he requires to move a sum of £30m to the UK quickly via a British bank account which I am given to understand you have. Please send details and the combination of your Peppa Pig Piggy Bank to me by return.
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How about "Donald Trump says English Sports Journalist Euromillions Win is Fake News".
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Ha! Mr Woodhall has nothing on me. Two emails this morning - one saying I've won the Toronto postcode lottery which I'm so chuffed about.
The other was about erectile dysfunction. One of em has to be genuine....
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Heavy rain atm although think it will clear up by mid afternoon. Reminds me of the Bolton home game years back when you needed an ark to get to the ground for the opening day.
Heavy rain and thunder over VP right now!
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This match feels like it will be more of an indicator for the season ahead than your usual opener, for some reason. Not sure if it's just the symbolic value of Hull (now there's a sentence), but I've got a sense that the result will be a harbinger. Probably won't be, but that's what it feels like.
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Talk of torrential rain and thunder reminds me of not so long ago at pre bankruptcy Leicester - yes that Leicester - when the away support was made to stand in the section under the holes in the roof. Long memory me.
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City of Culture, Mont. On Radio 3 all the time. If you are looking for a harbinger, Hull is the place.
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First game of the season- not really fussed about the result. I'd like a professional performance and a few Villa goals though.
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Harbingers and Portents.
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The weather's pretty Larkinesque, as have the Villa been recently: 'A sense of falling, like an arrow-shower sent out of sight, somewhere becoming rain.' We're some sort of shower alright.
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You expose my paucity of Larkin poetry Mont. I blame my Mother and Father. Your parents really fuck you up.
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You expose my paucity of Larkin poetry Mont. I blame my Mother and Father. Your parents really fuck you up.
*Applauds*
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The weather's pretty Larkinesque, as have the Villa been recently: 'A sense of falling, like an arrow-shower sent out of sight, somewhere becoming rain.' We're some sort of shower alright.
https://youtu.be/8L5LNIi5bAs
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Just posted this in Tickets & Travel, but thought I might get better visibility here: I'm on an unplanned journey to Birmingham so if anyone needs to lose a spare ticket give me a shout (pm - my hearing's not great)!
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Onomah is eligible for today, but I reckon Bruce will probably start him on the bench, but hopefully he does see some action.
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Still four hours away?
FFS
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Evening Mail predicting:
Johnstone; Hutton, Chester, Terry, Taylor; Elmohamady, Whelan, Bacuna, Green; Lansbury; Agbonlahor
Hope it is wrong, would prefer to see Hogan starting, possibly alongside Gabby, and with Lansbury playing with Whelan. We should be playing two up front at home to Hull.
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Just got a feeling Onomah is going to score today. He has raw energy. My spurs mate has told me he is dynamic and always looking to make things happen ......
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Being one of the favourites with high expectations I'll go for a classic, pie in the face Villa, 0-2 Hull.
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Evening Mail predicting:
Johnstone; Hutton, Chester, Terry, Taylor; Elmohamady, Whelan, Bacuna, Green; Lansbury; Agbonlahor
Hope it is wrong, would prefer to see Hogan starting, possibly alongside Gabby, and with Lansbury playing with Whelan. We should be playing two up front at home to Hull.
Wouldn't be worried about the number of strikers if we were equipped to play higher up the pitch with runners from midfield. With Terry, however, I worry that this just isn't feasible. If we're going to have him in the side, then, we might as well play a proper counterattacking formation like 4-4-2.
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Bacuna and Gabby. Cancel the promotion bus.
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I'm going for 3-0 to us. We certainly won't concede and we have more than a few lads that need to make a point today. Come on Villa!
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Evening Mail predicting:
Johnstone; Hutton, Chester, Terry, Taylor; Elmohamady, Whelan, Bacuna, Green; Lansbury; Agbonlahor
Hope it is wrong, would prefer to see Hogan starting, possibly alongside Gabby, and with Lansbury playing with Whelan. We should be playing two up front at home to Hull.
Yeah pretty medicore line-up. Feel like I'm stuck in a time warp everytime I see Hutton's name on the team sheet. We should just go the whole hog and stick Richards in too, ha!
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A very safe move from Bruce if correct. 0-0 with this line up.
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A very safe move from Bruce if correct. 0-0 with this line up.
I hope not, mate. But I can see where you're coming from. Are you going today? Try to enjoy. Haha.
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Bacuna and Gabby. Cancel the promotion bus.
Those two should be fired into the sun.
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Evening Mail predicting:
Johnstone; Hutton, Chester, Terry, Taylor; Elmohamady, Whelan, Bacuna, Green; Lansbury; Agbonlahor
Hope it is wrong, would prefer to see Hogan starting, possibly alongside Gabby, and with Lansbury playing with Whelan. We should be playing two up front at home to Hull.
The line up I expected to be honest. Bench will be interesting - Steer, Bree, Samba, Amavi, Hourihane, Onomah, Hogan would be my guess.
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Bacuna and Gabby. Cancel the promotion bus.
Those two should be fired into the sun.
If bruce starts with gabby above hogan (presuming he is fit) the striker he paid 12 million for then there really is no hope
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A very safe move from Bruce if correct. 0-0 with this line up.
I hope not, mate. But I can see where you're coming from. Are you going today? Try to enjoy. Haha.
Yes I will be on my way shortly and it's monsoon outside as it's been since about 11.00.
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I do hope he starts with Hogan and Hourihane instead of Bacuna.
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Evening Mail predicting:
Johnstone; Hutton, Chester, Terry, Taylor; Elmohamady, Whelan, Bacuna, Green; Lansbury; Agbonlahor
Hope it is wrong, would prefer to see Hogan starting, possibly alongside Gabby, and with Lansbury playing with Whelan. We should be playing two up front at home to Hull.
If Gabby plays ahead of Hogan, I reckon Hogan should consider giving up the game!
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I do hope he starts with Hogan and Hourihane instead of Bacuna.
Thanks that's against the rules mate.
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I'm on the wireless for some pre-match bants between 3-5pm if you fancy it http://www.mearnsfm.org.uk/listen-live . Be delighted to hear your song requests (no sweary words in lyrics please or I'll get sacked)
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I think gabby will start after his performance last weekend
I was in the Hogan camp but he needsto show more outside the box. He scored a couple of great goals and looked very dangerous in Germany. But that was a shocking defence that was playing in the third tier of German football last season
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I'm hoping to see the Elmo/Hogan relationship we saw in Germany grow. Gabby just doesn't have those natural instincts. I always thought Westwood was a roach in that he survived so many managerial changes like he'd survive a nuclear fall out. Gabby is in the same boat. No matter what, he'll survive.
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Bacuna and Gabby. Cancel the promotion bus.
Those two should be fired into the sun.
If bruce starts with gabby above hogan (presuming he is fit) the striker he paid 12 million for then there really is no hope
It's just ridiculous, but then Bruce is the architect of anti football. Agbonlahor is rubbish and has been for years. Bacuna, too.
I feel for Hogan. He's much better than Agbonlahor, but sadly we can't choose the team that's put out.
Agbonlahor will probably score a hat trick now!
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I doubt it but it makes me think back to the hat trick he scored against Man City. Literally the perfect hat trick.
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I'm on the wireless for some pre-match bants between 3-5pm if you fancy it http://www.mearnsfm.org.uk/listen-live . Be delighted to hear your song requests (no sweary words in lyrics please or I'll get sacked)
Everybody loves the Sunshine - Roy Ayers, please Russon.
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A very safe move from Bruce if correct. 0-0 with this line up.
I hope not, mate. But I can see where you're coming from. Are you going today? Try to enjoy. Haha.
Yes I will be on my way shortly and it's monsoon outside as it's been since about 11.00.
Oh dear. It's sickeningly humid here, though having just got back from Hanoi, it's at least cooler than there.
Fingers and toes crossed for Hogan and Hourihane.
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Oi Russon, the music's gone off. Clean your bloody CDs.
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I doubt it but it makes me think back to the hat trick he scored against Man City. Literally the perfect hat trick.
Barring Benteke's debut against Swansea in 2012, that's the last home league game I watched live since moving abroad for good. Seems a lifetime ago now.
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When's Adomah back?
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I'm on the wireless for some pre-match bants between 3-5pm if you fancy it http://www.mearnsfm.org.uk/listen-live . Be delighted to hear your song requests (no sweary words in lyrics please or I'll get sacked)
Everybody loves the Sunshine - Roy Ayers, please Russon.
you got it my friend
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A very safe move from Bruce if correct. 0-0 with this line up.
I hope not, mate. But I can see where you're coming from. Are you going today? Try to enjoy. Haha.
Yes I will be on my way shortly and it's monsoon outside as it's been since about 11.00.
Oh dear. It's sickeningly humid here, though having just got back from Hanoi, it's at least cooler than there.
Fingers and toes crossed for Hogan and Hourihane.
It's glorious sunshine in Barnt Green. On my way to VP for the first time this season. Thank heavens Gabby's starting.
I wish I never saw the sunshine... One for Russon, maybe?!
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Bristol 3-0 up so we are going to need 4 to go top at the moment :-)
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Montrose biggest home attendance: 8,983 v Dundee, 17 March 1973, Scottish Cup.
Not a lot of people know that.
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Clyde have had a home attendance of 52,000. Cowdenbeath once submitted plans to expand capacity to 80,000... it never came to fruition. Not sure how often it would have been full, tbh.
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I think I'd play gabby and hogan today. Both options as lone striker have real flaws (scoring and hold up play respectively)
That might mean Thor on the left so we can go 451 if needed
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More importantly:
Aston Villa U16s 3-0 Wigan U16s Cameron with 1 goal and 1 assist
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Cowdenbeath once submitted plans to expand capacity to 80,000... it never came to fruition. Not sure how often it would have been full, tbh.
That's bonkers. Their record is 25k and that was back in 1949.
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Clyde have had a home attendance of 52,000.
Impressive having 48,000 away fans!
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Mainly Sceptic fans I assume.
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It was Rangers. Most likely they outnumbered us heavily.
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Mainly Sceptic fans I assume.
What were they sceptical about?
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Both Gabby & Hogan start.
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So gabby and hogan. And Bacuna
No green or hourihane
I'm guessing either gabby left and Bacuna behind hogan
Or vice versa (w gabby closer to hogan)
Maybe switch a bit during the game
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Think Bruce is guessing
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Mainly Sceptic fans I assume.
What were they sceptical about?
Their chances of getting through the group.
Self explanatory really.
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Or you meant septic and couldn't spell it ;)