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Title: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on May 16, 2017, 01:14:25 PM
https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2017/04/06/villa-domestic-friendlies-confirmed


Aston Villa will play Watford in a Graham Taylor memorial game as part of our pre-season programme which is announced today.

The game, to honour our former manager and to contest the Graham Taylor Trophy, will take place on Saturday July 29, with a 3pm kick-off.

Profits from the day will all be donated to charities of his family’s choosing.

Up to around 4,500 tickets will be available for our supporters to join Hornets fans in tribute to the man who led us with enormous distinction.

We can also confirm four other away matches over the month of July.

Steve Bruce’s men have two games in one day on Wednesday July 12 – against Telford United and Kidderminster Harriers, both with a 7.45pm kick-off.

Then it’s on to Shrewsbury Town on Saturday July 15, with a 3pm kick-off.

It’s the return of our annual game at Walsall on Tuesday July 18, with a 7.45pm start.

The club is also in the process of arranging two friendly fixtures abroad, most likely Germany, to take place in the last week of July. These will be confirmed as quickly as possible.

The club will endeavour to show all our pre-season fixtures - both domestic and abroad - LIVE on our social media channels.


PRE-SEASON FIXTURES

Wednesday, July 12
Telford United (a) 7.45pm kick-off
Kidderminster Harriers (a) 7.45pm kick-off

Saturday, July 15
Shrewsbury Town (a) 3pm kick-off

Tuesday, July 18
Walsall (a) 7.45pm kick-off

Saturday, July 29
Watford (a) 3pm kick-off
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: wittonwarrior on May 16, 2017, 01:41:44 PM
Anyone travelling from nw to Watford give me a shout train fares sky high in july
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cdbearsfan on May 16, 2017, 01:42:36 PM
Firstly, anyone any idea when tickets will go on sale?

Secondly, will matches be available to watch for those who aren't on Facebook? The Youth Cup games the other day were restricted to FB users only. I see no reason why they can't be hosted on YouTube or, call me crazy, the Villa website.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Clampy on May 16, 2017, 02:02:20 PM
There's one being played at Tamworth as well.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on May 16, 2017, 03:09:53 PM
A return to Bremen - last visited August 2012, would be nice.
I met up with loads of Villans from all over Europe and even a few from Brum !
Nice city and decent beer
Police treated the Villa fans with great respect
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: brian green on May 16, 2017, 03:21:22 PM
Ditto Bochum.  Great beer, great food, great fans.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on May 16, 2017, 03:27:16 PM
Also we can return any lost property found in Aston. 
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: andrew08 on May 16, 2017, 05:19:00 PM
Could do with the dates for Germany in fairness before flight prices get silly.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: wittonwarrior on May 16, 2017, 05:21:48 PM
A return to Bremen - last visited August 2012, would be nice.
I met up with loads of Villans from all over Europe and even a few from Brum !
Nice city and decent beer
Police treated the Villa fans with great respect

Quality town made special by becks tour
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Legion on May 16, 2017, 07:18:06 PM
Also we can return any lost property found in Aston. 

Chortles.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: SoccerHQ on May 17, 2017, 10:57:02 AM
Is the season starting 5th or 12th August?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: UK Redsox on May 17, 2017, 11:12:48 AM
Is the season starting 5th or 12th August?

http://www.efl.com/global/keydates.aspx
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cdbearsfan on May 17, 2017, 12:47:03 PM
Is there really a need for a three week delay between announcing the fixtures and stating which games are on telly?

Twats.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: eamonn on May 17, 2017, 01:03:00 PM
We didn't get a bye into the second round of the Rumbelows then? Down with the deadbeats of the bottom half...
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cdbearsfan on May 17, 2017, 02:59:22 PM
We enter in Round One, same as last year.

18th-19th place Hull and Middlesbrough receive a bye to Round Two, 20th place Sunderland, us and all the other Football League clubs enter in Round One.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: eamonn on May 17, 2017, 04:41:54 PM
Oh right, thought they split the Ch'ship down the middle for it.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cheltenhamlion on May 17, 2017, 05:14:48 PM
Balls. I am on holiday the first week of the season.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: amfy on May 17, 2017, 06:13:44 PM
Me too Chelts - we're definitely going to be drawn at home and miss our free game!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on May 17, 2017, 06:15:58 PM
We didn't get a bye into the second round of the Rumbelows then? Down with the deadbeats of the bottom half...

Next three seasons it's going to be called The Carabao Cup.
It's a Thai energy drink.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: wittonwarrior on May 18, 2017, 01:36:48 PM
A return to Bremen - last visited August 2012, would be nice.
I met up with loads of Villans from all over Europe and even a few from Brum !
Nice city and decent beer
Police treated the Villa fans with great respect
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Am looking to go if weekend or start or finish if week game. - living in nw manc ir John Lennon. Give me a pm when details are known
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Lucky Eddie on May 19, 2017, 09:29:50 AM
We didn't get a bye into the second round of the Rumbelows then? Down with the deadbeats of the bottom half...

Next three seasons it's going to be called The Carabao Cup.
It's a Thai energy drink.

Quatro for Millennials
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Walmley_Villa on May 19, 2017, 10:31:55 AM
Union Berlin would be good...
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: DeKuip on May 23, 2017, 03:35:10 PM
Aston Villa can confirm the club will travel to Germany as part of their pre-season preparations.   

The team will take part in the Schauinsland-Reisen tournament, a mini-competition at MSV-Arena, Duisburg, on Sunday July 23, kick-off 1pm local time.   

Teams will play two matches lasting 45 minutes each.

Other participating clubs include MSV Duisburg, Werder Bremen or FC Koln (depending on European qualification) and Malaga CF.   

Steve Bruce’s outfit will also play a second game against Vitesse Arnhem in the same region as the tournament. 

This will take place on Tuesday July 25, kick-off time and venue TBC.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: wittonwarrior on May 23, 2017, 09:40:47 PM
have booked for the weekend  mini comp the  Dutch game on the Tuesday means half the week off so its no goer for me especially with the  midweek games which I would  potentially want to try and make in the season
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PGW on May 25, 2017, 04:08:44 PM
I've now just booked 5 nights in Dusseldorf...Hotel Antares Dusseldorf Friday night checking out Wednesday 26/07.
I enjoyed last season in St Nazaire hopefully this will be as enjoyable.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: wittonwarrior on May 28, 2017, 08:17:45 PM
booked the ibiz in Duisburg - needed to go back a couple of times before I got the discount link at £33.00 per night.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: wittonwarrior on June 02, 2017, 01:17:17 PM
Anyone else going to germany
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Clampy on June 02, 2017, 03:24:51 PM
We're looking into going to the freindly on the tuesday and staying in Dussledorf. The tournament sounds great fun though.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: ChicagoLion on June 02, 2017, 03:29:34 PM
I hope to make it to Düsseldorf and Reacquaint my self with altbier
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: wittonwarrior on June 02, 2017, 05:35:30 PM
It looks a decent stadium 31000 capacity
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: spangley1812 on June 12, 2017, 08:07:20 PM
From PRAVDA

Tickets for our pre-season friendly with Walsall go on sale this Wednesday - 14/06/2017

The match takes place at the Banks’s Stadium on Tuesday July 18, kick-off 7.45pm.

Prices are £12 [adults], £6 [O60s/U18s], £15 [family ticket, one adult and one U14 – please note this offer is not available online].

22 wheelchair bays – disabled supporters’ tickets are priced at 50% of the above pricing with free personal assistant and are available by calling the ticket office on 0333 323 1874.

Tickets will initially be available to purchase on Wednesday June 14 at 5pm online.

Wednesday June 14 at 5pm online/Thursday June 15 phone or in person: On sale to 2017/18 season ticket holders who have purchased tickets for 10+ away league matches in the 2016/17 season.

Thursday June 15 at 5pm online/Friday June 16 phone or in person: On sale to 2017/18 season ticket holders who have purchased tickets for 5+ away league matches in the 2016/17 season.

Friday June 16 at 5pm online/Monday June 19 phone or in person: On sale to 2017/18 season ticket holders.

Monday June 19 at 5pm online/Tuesday June 20 phone or in person: On sale to Villa Cash members.

Tuesday 20 at 5pm online/Wednesday June 21 phone or in person: On general sale.

To buy, visit us in person, call 0333 323 1874 or buy online from our ONLINE BOX OFFICE.

The deadline for sales for this fixture is 10am on Tuesday July 18.

After this period, it will not be possible to purchase tickets from Villa Park.

The deadline for refunds is Monday July 17 at 5pm.

All debit/credit card purchases will be subject to a £2 booking fee.

It is essential that you register and use only one client reference account whenever you wish to purchase tickets from Aston Villa, whether online or via the Ticket Office, as this will give you the ability to build-up your Booking History. 

This will allow you greater priority in purchasing tickets for future away and cup fixtures.

Post: Only tickets purchased before 3.30pm on Friday July 14 will be posted to supporters.

Collection: All tickets purchased after this deadline will be available for collection only from Villa Park.

Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: peter w on June 12, 2017, 09:07:31 PM
14th June. That's a bit early isn't it? This is still last season.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: olaftab on June 12, 2017, 09:14:43 PM
A return to Bremen - last visited August 2012, would be nice.
I met up with loads of Villans from all over Europe and even a few from Brum !
Nice city and decent beer
Police treated the Villa fans with great respect

Quality town made special by becks tour
Yes that was great. Wouldn't have mind Bremen again. Can't do the trip to Duisburg  due to holiday.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: peter w on June 12, 2017, 09:50:18 PM
just checked last season's friendlies:

CONFIRMED FIRST TEAM GAMES

Friendly v AFC Telford (A) - 12pm Saturday July 16
Friendly v Worcester City (At Walshes Meadow, Stourport) - 3pm Saturday July 16
Friendly v Bristol Rovers (A) - 7.45pm Wednesday July 20
Friendly v FC Nantes (At Stade Leo Lagrange, Saint Nazaire) - Saturday July 23
Friendly v Cambridge United (A) - 7.30pm Tuesday July 26
Friendly v Middlesbrough (H) - 3pm Saturday July 30

CONFIRMED U21 GAMES
Friendly v Heather St John's (At Coalville) - 7.30pm Thursday July 21
Friendly v Biggleswade (A) - 2pm Sunday July 24
Friendly v Tamworth (A) - 7.30pm Wednesday July 27
Friendly v Chasetown (A) - 7.30pm Monday August 1



Anyone know we're starting next season's games when this season hasn't officially finished?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: spangley1812 on June 12, 2017, 09:58:13 PM
14th June. That's a bit early isn't it? This is still last season.

14th of June....................???
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Dave Cooper please on June 12, 2017, 11:45:03 PM
What are you on about Peter? the game isn't until July 18th, the tickets go on sale on June 14th.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: in exile on June 13, 2017, 09:05:40 AM
Why on earth are we playing a Championship team (Middlesborough) in a friendly?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: peter w on June 13, 2017, 10:34:34 AM
Ah - got confused with the tickets go on sale bit. As you were...
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Villatillidie25 on June 13, 2017, 12:28:12 PM
Why on earth are we playing a Championship team (Middlesborough) in a friendly?

we're not - that's last season's pre-season fixtures
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Pete3206 on June 13, 2017, 09:45:00 PM
Why don't we play an Italian side, like Barcelona?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: brian green on June 13, 2017, 10:31:30 PM
Groundhog Season.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cdbearsfan on June 14, 2017, 12:53:40 AM
Ticket office saying that the Middlesbrough tickets are still not on sale. Fuming.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: frank on June 14, 2017, 01:23:16 AM
A return to Bremen - last visited August 2012, would be nice.
I met up with loads of Villans from all over Europe and even a few from Brum !
Nice city and decent beer
Police treated the Villa fans with great respect

Quality town made special by becks tour
Yes that was great. Wouldn't have mind Bremen again. Can't do the trip to Duisburg  due to holiday.
I'll be joining a few of the German Villans at the game in Duisburg. No further details as yet.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: in exile on June 14, 2017, 11:39:47 AM
Why on earth are we playing a Championship team (Middlesborough) in a friendly?

we're not - that's last season's pre-season fixtures

Blokes a dork
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: wittonwarrior on June 17, 2017, 03:11:21 AM
So who else is off to Duisburg?  Just over a month to go and under a month now to my first game of the season Shrews away at their new ground.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on June 18, 2017, 07:26:22 PM


Has the second game in Germany been announced yet ?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Clampy on June 18, 2017, 08:27:46 PM


Has the second game in Germany been announced yet ?

It's been announced but not where the game is being played.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: wittonwarrior on June 19, 2017, 05:14:01 PM
The Sunday Duisburg comp on sale to st holders from 5pm tomorrow

Seats £18
Standing £9
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: eamonn on June 20, 2017, 12:14:16 AM
Gay Meadow is gone?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cdbearsfan on June 20, 2017, 01:11:34 AM
Yes, it's the New Meadow now. Or the Greenhous Meadow if you want to use the sponsor's name.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: spangley1812 on June 20, 2017, 06:32:34 AM
From PRAVDA

Tickets for Villa’s Cup of Traditions tournament in Germany go on sale this Tuesday.

The team will take part in the event, a mini-competition at Schauinsland Reisen Arena, Duisburg on Sunday July 23, kick-off 1pm local time.   

Teams will play two matches lasting 45 minutes each.

Other participating clubs include MSV Duisburg, Hertha Berlin and Malaga.

We have an allocation of 300 tickets (200 standing).

Tickets are £18 (seats), £9 (standing) for adults and £18 (seats) and £4.50 (standing for U18s).

U18 ticket holders must provide photo ID at the turnstile to gain entry.

There are 10 wheelchair bays, which are available by calling the Ticket Office on 0333 323 1874.

Tickets are available online from Tuesday June 20 at 5pm and on the phone and in person from Wednesday June 21 to 2017/18 season ticket holders.

On Wednesday June 21 at 5pm online and on the phone and in person from Thursday June 22 they are on general sale.

The deadline for sales for this fixture is 10am on Wednesday July 19.

After this period, it will not be possible to purchase tickets from Villa Park.

The deadline for refunds is Tuesday July 18 at 5pm.

Only tickets purchased before 3.30pm on Monday July 17 will be posted to supporters.

All tickets purchased after this deadline will be available for collection only from Villa Park.

You will be able to BUY ONLINE here or alternatively pop into Villa Park or contact us on 0333 323 1874.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: in exile on June 20, 2017, 11:36:30 AM
Good to see the games are only 45 minutes each.
We don't want our poor darlings getting too tired do we?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Damo70 on June 20, 2017, 12:12:05 PM
Who cares about winning the FA Cup when you could win The Cup Of Traditions.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cdbearsfan on June 20, 2017, 12:12:14 PM
Any chance of them putting the Watford tickets on sale any time before the train companies hike the prices?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 20, 2017, 12:20:18 PM
Good to see the games are only 45 minutes each.
We don't want our poor darlings getting too tired do we?


Makes sense as each side will play twice on the same day.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Clampy on June 20, 2017, 12:45:18 PM
Good to see the games are only 45 minutes each.
We don't want our poor darlings getting too tired do we?


It's only a day tournement. Don't see a problem to be honest.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: wittonwarrior on June 20, 2017, 05:12:12 PM
You know your past it when you purchase a seat ticket in preference to a terrace one
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: in exile on June 21, 2017, 09:23:46 AM
I didn't read that about it being a day tournament.
I am deeply ashamed and very sorry
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: wittonwarrior on June 21, 2017, 01:41:16 PM
It's a weekend away on the piss
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cdbearsfan on June 21, 2017, 03:02:10 PM
It's a weekend away on the piss

Hiya, Jack!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Lucky Eddie on June 21, 2017, 09:42:29 PM
I'm hearing the Watford match has been switched to Villa Park
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on June 23, 2017, 04:37:35 PM

I was just about to say the same thing. Has anyone heard anything more concrete about this ?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: avfcdale on June 23, 2017, 05:23:31 PM
I was at a meeting today at VP and the rumour is rife Watford are having their pitch re laid and it will not be ready in time
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt Collins on June 23, 2017, 09:57:41 PM
Of all rife rumours that's one of the least interesting!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 23, 2017, 10:24:01 PM
I was at a meeting today at VP and the rumour is rife Watford are having their pitch re laid and it will not be ready in time

You may well be right there.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: wittonwarrior on June 24, 2017, 11:05:35 AM
still advertised as going ahead  at Vicarage Road  on both clubs websites.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: SoccerHQ on June 24, 2017, 11:36:50 AM
When is our first one, 2 weeks?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Chris87 on June 24, 2017, 09:42:41 PM
Yeah, two matches on 12th July.

My Walsall ticket arrived today. Very prompt!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: wittonwarrior on June 28, 2017, 05:19:52 PM
Shrews on sale now to st holders
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on June 28, 2017, 07:03:13 PM


My Walsall tickets arrived today and they have UNIVERSITY OF WOLVERHAMPTON written across them
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: olaftab on June 28, 2017, 08:38:13 PM
still advertised as going ahead  at Vicarage Road  on both clubs websites.
At Villa park on 29 July.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Lucky Eddie on June 28, 2017, 08:43:22 PM
Any news on the second match in Germany?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: spangley1812 on June 28, 2017, 08:56:12 PM


My Walsall tickets arrived today and they have UNIVERSITY OF WOLVERHAMPTON written across them

Thats the name of the stand you are in
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: wittonwarrior on June 28, 2017, 09:26:34 PM
Any news on the second match in Germany?
-

If your worried about it - no need you can stay anywhere in Dusseldolf, Duisburg, Cologne.  The train  tickets  to the Duisburg area will be quite reasonable  - all about 12 euros at the most.  The game is in the Duisburg area so should not be a problem. 
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: eamonn on June 28, 2017, 11:41:13 PM
Are our lot back in training yet?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: sid1964 on June 29, 2017, 06:50:14 AM
Our lot back in training, I think that the poor souls start today after there 7+ weeks holiday, of course they will be knackered by the end of September!

They should have been back a week+ ago, it has been a gripe of mine for a fair few seasons that we don't look fit enough. Under the greatest Manager in my time, Mr Saunders they would not have had 7 weeks off!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Clampy on June 29, 2017, 07:23:50 AM
Our lot back in training, I think that the poor souls start today after there 7+ weeks holiday, of course they will be knackered by the end of September!

They should have been back a week+ ago, it has been a gripe of mine for a fair few seasons that we don't look fit enough. Under the greatest Manager in my time, Mr Saunders they would not have had 7 weeks off!

I'm not sure having them back a week earlier would make too much difference. Besides, they're probably put on a training programme whilst they're off to keep themselves in shape.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cdbearsfan on June 29, 2017, 08:19:22 AM
Considering that they are often employed six days a week, seven if we have a particularly crowded fixture list, and have to work on most Bank Holidays, seven weeks annual leave in a year doesn't seem particularly excessive to me.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: AV5nobs on July 01, 2017, 06:42:57 AM
Getting to retire at 35 as a millionaire, what appalling work conditions.

Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 01, 2017, 02:24:01 PM
I never said it was. Regardless of profession, people are entitled to time off.

Moaning about Villa not being back in training before the last week of June is just moaning for moaning's sake.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: brentastonb6 on July 01, 2017, 10:59:07 PM
As with most employment it should be about the quality and quantity of work our employees put in , a lot if not all of us possibly feel we've been had on both counts in the last five years. Less so last year but against vastly inferior opponents
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: oswald funkletrumpet on July 02, 2017, 11:54:06 AM
I never said it was. Regardless of profession, people are entitled to time off.

Moaning about Villa not being back in training before the last week of June is just moaning for moaning's sake.

Not if come the hull game we are puffing out of our arses after an hour, like we were for first ten games of last season

You would hope that fitness wont be an issue because all else aside there can be no excuses for not being fit
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 02, 2017, 12:01:21 PM
Well, no. But we should still be capable of being fit in the first game while allowing players to take a break. Same as every other club seems to.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 02, 2017, 12:07:41 PM
Our lot back in training, I think that the poor souls start today after there 7+ weeks holiday, of course they will be knackered by the end of September!

They should have been back a week+ ago, it has been a gripe of mine for a fair few seasons that we don't look fit enough. Under the greatest Manager in my time, Mr Saunders they would not have had 7 weeks off!

Given that back then pre-season fixtures consisted of a game or two in Europe if we were lucky and a couple in Devon I bet they would have.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: oswald funkletrumpet on July 02, 2017, 01:49:16 PM
Well, no. But we should still be capable of being fit in the first game while allowing players to take a break. Same as every other club seems to.

Totally agree
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: dutchvilla on July 04, 2017, 10:58:43 AM
hello, I am back in the UK after 12 years in the Netherlands and was hoping to go to the Shrewsbury friendly with my son. It seems that I need a membership number for each ticket? I have one, since I used to be a season-ticket holder, but how can i get another one? (Sorry if posting in the wrong place).
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 04, 2017, 12:31:01 PM
The criteria mentions Villa Cash, but I think that has been phased out so you would only have that if you had it last season... it's not something you can buy.

However, it's been on general sale since 30th June so not sure why you wouldn't be able to get one?

It may be that they are requesting booking history, in which case anyone who has bought tickets recently should be able to help out by providing their reference number. I would help but we are using our references for this game.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: dutchvilla on July 04, 2017, 04:20:12 PM
thanks, cdbullyweefan

It's definitely insisting on one reference number per ticket, but I think we'll just go in the main stand (ie not the away end)
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: HoratioHornblower on July 04, 2017, 04:22:48 PM
im not goin so can give you a ref number if you need it
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: BC54 VFC on July 04, 2017, 11:35:49 PM
thanks, cdbullyweefan

It's definitely insisting on one reference number per ticket, but I think we'll just go in the main stand (ie not the away end)
Hopefully, someone on here will have given you a spare reference but just to make you aware it is an all ticket game and tickets cannot be purchased on the day of the game, even for the home stands.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 04, 2017, 11:38:06 PM
thanks, cdbullyweefan

It's definitely insisting on one reference number per ticket, but I think we'll just go in the main stand (ie not the away end)

Just phone them up, they should be able to use your old ref and create a new one as well.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: peter w on July 05, 2017, 06:16:53 AM
All ticket games for friendlies? Even as a mid table Championship club our pull is still bigger than anyone else around. A nice little reminder.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 05, 2017, 10:04:44 AM
It's likely it's so as Shrewsbury know in advance how many stewards they need on the day.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: in exile on July 05, 2017, 04:15:42 PM
FYI

https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2017/07/05/ticket-office-closed-until-next-week
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: clash city rocker on July 09, 2017, 02:01:44 PM
Well my daughter got us tickets for the harriers Wednesday night so no idea what team villa will be sending.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 09, 2017, 02:25:12 PM
Well my daughter got us tickets for the harriers Wednesday night so no idea what team villa will be sending.

I would imagine it'll be half the first team squad (we're playing Telford as well) but which half is anyone's guess.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Goldie.7 on July 11, 2017, 04:25:15 PM
Our pre-season matches will be screened live on our YouTube channel. (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCICNP0mvtr0prFwGUQIABfQ)

July 12 – Telford v Aston Villa (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnhJNgZEyQk), New Bucks Head, 7.45pm
July 12 – Kidderminster v Aston Villa (B) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyy8SNJrWSM), Aggborough, 7.45pm
July 15 – Shrewsbury vs Aston Villa, New Meadow, 3pm
July 18 – Walsall vs Aston Villa, Banks’s Stadium, 7.45pm
Screening TBC - July 23 – Cup of Traditions, Schauinsland Reisen Arena, Duisburg, Germany, 1pm
Screening TBC - July 25 – Vitesse Arnhem vs Aston Villa, Venue TBC, KO TBC
July 29 – Aston Villa vs Watford (Graham Taylor tribute match), Villa Park, 3pm

You will get live video approximately just before kick-off and each game will feature commentary as we talk you through the action.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: l_mckay on July 11, 2017, 05:40:10 PM
Anyone not received Shrewsbury tickets yet? Bought them over a week ago and still not got them.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on July 11, 2017, 05:48:52 PM
Anyone not received Shrewsbury tickets yet? Bought them over a week ago and still not got them.

Yes.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 11, 2017, 06:13:21 PM
I've got Shrewsbury tickets. Might be worth giving them a ring if they haven't come by tomorrow or Thursday.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Gareth on July 11, 2017, 07:31:15 PM
It's a shame if they are screening Watford game, we want as big a crowd as possible at the game to honour GT
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: four fornicholl on July 11, 2017, 07:39:49 PM
It's a shame if they are screening Watford game, we want as big a crowd as possible at the game to honour GT
I agree, I really can't see us doing him the respect he deserves. A full house is the least he deserves but how we make that happen is beyond me. £5 entry on a night sometime near christmas would be my choice?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Clampy on July 11, 2017, 07:41:39 PM
It's a shame if they are screening Watford game, we want as big a crowd as possible at the game to honour GT

That's a good point, I hadn't thought of that.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 11, 2017, 07:53:22 PM
It's a shame if they are screening Watford game, we want as big a crowd as possible at the game to honour GT
I agree, I really can't see us doing him the respect he deserves. A full house is the least he deserves but how we make that happen is beyond me. £5 entry on a night sometime near christmas would be my choice?

A night game will always be worse attended.

We should be doing a bit more to publicise this game though, and I don't see the point of making it free to air, that's just asking people not to turn up.

Be nice if a few old stars turn up. McGrath, Cowans, Barnes for instance.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on July 11, 2017, 08:07:34 PM
It's a shame if they are screening Watford game, we want as big a crowd as possible at the game to honour GT
I agree, I really can't see us doing him the respect he deserves. A full house is the least he deserves but how we make that happen is beyond me. £5 entry on a night sometime near christmas would be my choice?

A night game will always be worse attended.

We should be doing a bit more to publicise this game though, and I don't see the point of making it free to air, that's just asking people not to turn up.

Be nice if a few old stars turn up. McGrath, Cowans, Barnes for instance.

Is it actually a fundraiser or just a GT tribute match?

If it's the latter then giving all season ticket holders free entry and charging everyone else £10/£1 kids and a couple of interesting signings beforehand might help

But I still remember Sid getting less than 5000 for his testimonial. And he's the finest player i've ever seen



Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 11, 2017, 08:29:04 PM
It's a shame if they are screening Watford game, we want as big a crowd as possible at the game to honour GT
I agree, I really can't see us doing him the respect he deserves. A full house is the least he deserves but how we make that happen is beyond me. £5 entry on a night sometime near christmas would be my choice?

A night game will always be worse attended.

We should be doing a bit more to publicise this game though, and I don't see the point of making it free to air, that's just asking people not to turn up.

Be nice if a few old stars turn up. McGrath, Cowans, Barnes for instance.

Is it actually a fundraiser or just a GT tribute match?

If it's the latter then giving all season ticket holders free entry and charging everyone else £10/£1 kids and a couple of interesting signings beforehand might help

But I still remember Sid getting less than 5000 for his testimonial. And he's the finest player i've ever seen





Proceeds are going to charities. Then again, I get the impression Watford's attitude is that he was theirs and nobody else's. When the game was shifted to Villa Park they announced that it was 'only' a pre-season friendly and were having the proper celebration the following week, which is where the Graham Taylor Trophy would be played for.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: The Edge on July 11, 2017, 08:33:33 PM
Are our lot back in training yet?
Yeah gabbys doing a tour of all the McDonald's in London and Jack's on a 4 day bender with his mates in Magaluf
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: four fornicholl on July 11, 2017, 08:34:50 PM
It's a shame if they are screening Watford game, we want as big a crowd as possible at the game to honour GT
I agree, I really can't see us doing him the respect he deserves. A full house is the least he deserves but how we make that happen is beyond me. £5 entry on a night sometime near christmas would be my choice?

A night game will always be worse attended.

We should be doing a bit more to publicise this game though, and I don't see the point of making it free to air, that's just asking people not to turn up.

Be nice if a few old stars turn up. McGrath, Cowans, Barnes for instance.

Is it actually a fundraiser or just a GT tribute match?

If it's the latter then giving all season ticket holders free entry and charging everyone else £10/£1 kids and a couple of interesting signings beforehand might help

But I still remember Sid getting less than 5000 for his testimonial. And he's the finest player i've ever seen





Proceeds are going to charities. Then again, I get the impression Watford's attitude is that he was theirs and nobody else's. When the game was shifted to Villa Park they announced that it was 'only' a pre-season friendly and were having the proper celebration the following week, which is where the Graham Taylor Trophy would be played for.
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Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: four fornicholl on July 11, 2017, 08:38:20 PM
There can't be a reason why we don't organise our own tribute.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Goldie.7 on July 11, 2017, 08:39:43 PM
Is it actually a fundraiser or just a GT tribute match?

If it's the latter then giving all season ticket holders free entry and charging everyone else £10/£1 kids and a couple of interesting signings beforehand might help.

Prices are already out.

(http://i66.tinypic.com/4tvjbl.jpg)
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Damo70 on July 11, 2017, 08:43:06 PM
It's a shame if they are screening Watford game, we want as big a crowd as possible at the game to honour GT
I agree, I really can't see us doing him the respect he deserves. A full house is the least he deserves but how we make that happen is beyond me. £5 entry on a night sometime near christmas would be my choice?

A night game will always be worse attended.

We should be doing a bit more to publicise this game though, and I don't see the point of making it free to air, that's just asking people not to turn up.

Be nice if a few old stars turn up. McGrath, Cowans, Barnes for instance.


If McGrath, Cowans and Barnes turn up, regardless of age Steve Bruce should sign them all up for next season.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: old man villa fan on July 12, 2017, 06:46:35 AM
It's a shame if they are screening Watford game, we want as big a crowd as possible at the game to honour GT
I agree, I really can't see us doing him the respect he deserves. A full house is the least he deserves but how we make that happen is beyond me. £5 entry on a night sometime near christmas would be my choice?

A night game will always be worse attended.

We should be doing a bit more to publicise this game though, and I don't see the point of making it free to air, that's just asking people not to turn up.

Be nice if a few old stars turn up. McGrath, Cowans, Barnes for instance.


If McGrath, Cowans and Barnes turn up, regardless of age Steve Bruce should sign them all up for next season.

Are you sure he recognises players with talent.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Dave on July 12, 2017, 08:20:19 AM
Might as well sticky this and it can be the match thread for the friendlies, with the first one(s) tonight.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 12, 2017, 10:13:36 AM
Can we have a separate thread for the Watford game? Seeing as it is part-friendly, part-tribute to a Villa great.

I just want maximum exposure of the game to get the biggest possible crowd, really.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: eamonn on July 12, 2017, 12:44:55 PM
Really intrigued as to the line-ups/squads for these games. We've still got such a bloated squad, it might give an indication as to who is not in Bruce's plans this season.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: UK Redsox on July 12, 2017, 01:12:30 PM
Might as well sticky this and it can be the match thread for the friendlies, with the first one(s) tonight.

https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2017/07/11/watch-telford-kidderminster-games-live-here
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: UK Redsox on July 12, 2017, 01:13:34 PM
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: UK Redsox on July 12, 2017, 01:13:48 PM
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: UK Redsox on July 12, 2017, 01:14:23 PM
With two games at the same time this could be a fun match thread
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 12, 2017, 04:38:33 PM
For what it's worth the club photographer is off to Kiddie.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: clash city rocker on July 12, 2017, 05:40:34 PM
Wonder  if he will take a picture of me then...!!! I ain't bad looking...
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: peter w on July 12, 2017, 06:15:12 PM
have the squads for both games been announced?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Tuscans on July 12, 2017, 06:20:44 PM
All I can find....with only 10 v Kid.

(https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/19990545_10155560486036096_2057736668624985673_n.jpg?oh=82c3408771b6684c1a8fa6af3d511fb2&oe=5A0B8A99)

Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 12, 2017, 06:22:31 PM
No way am I missing quiz night to watch that shite.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: BC54 VFC on July 12, 2017, 06:25:02 PM
No way am I missing quiz night to watch that shite.
Like ;D
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: BC54 VFC on July 12, 2017, 06:27:25 PM
A bit disconcerting that we can't even spell (Veretout) one of our own players names!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 12, 2017, 06:30:06 PM
Oi! You're ruining the spelling round!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Tuscans on July 12, 2017, 06:30:10 PM
A bit disconcerting that we can't even spell (Veretout) one of our own players names!
I think Gabby put the names up.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: tomd2103 on July 12, 2017, 06:47:38 PM
Two notes of interest for me - both teams set up in 4-4-2 and Veretout involved.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 12, 2017, 06:51:50 PM
One of them is 4-3-2.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 12, 2017, 06:54:37 PM
Who is playing left side for team B, anyway? Looks like "Bocca"?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Tuscans on July 12, 2017, 06:56:18 PM
I think Tshibola is the missing one out.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Tuscans on July 12, 2017, 06:56:45 PM
Who is playing left side for team B, anyway? Looks like "Bocca"?
Birkir
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Tuscans on July 12, 2017, 06:58:24 PM
I'm hearing Borg in for Taylor
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: eamonn on July 12, 2017, 07:00:42 PM
Amavi lives!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: four fornicholl on July 12, 2017, 07:01:50 PM
I'm intrigued to see how Hogan and McC perform together, Kiddie game for me, to start with anyway.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: eamonn on July 12, 2017, 07:02:01 PM
Also McCafu is that good that he has the whole right-flank to himself. Respek'! Now tell us he's not worth £1m, Sheffield Wednesday.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: andyh on July 12, 2017, 07:04:17 PM
Does Terry not play in these games?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cheltenhamlion on July 12, 2017, 07:08:50 PM
He is busy watching the tennis.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: VancouverLion on July 12, 2017, 07:15:41 PM
Team for Telford;
Sarkic
Bree
Samba
Baker
Amavi
Adomah
Lansbury
Veretout
Green
Agbonlahor
Davis
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on July 12, 2017, 07:19:54 PM
He is busy watching the tennis.

Waiting to swoop for the trophy?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cheltenhamlion on July 12, 2017, 07:22:59 PM
He is busy watching the tennis.

Waiting to swoop for the trophy?

In his pure white gear.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: four fornicholl on July 12, 2017, 07:23:19 PM
He is busy watching the tennis.
That doesn't bode well, unless he's hot footing it up the M1 as we speak. You would think he'd make a bit of an effort.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: London Villan on July 12, 2017, 07:28:00 PM
One of lads isn't he!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Nev on July 12, 2017, 07:33:01 PM
Snakes alive! Richards? Fat Mac?

Clean slates is it?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 12, 2017, 07:33:35 PM
Gabby capt. fuck me. I don't have a problem him seeing out his contract but how the fuck is he capt of a Villa side again?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on July 12, 2017, 07:42:44 PM
Bloody hell I am seeing Aggborough again, Been years.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: oswald funkletrumpet on July 12, 2017, 07:44:11 PM
Dont forget samba who isnt on trial  ::)
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 12, 2017, 07:46:22 PM
That Mrs Trialist gets about.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on July 12, 2017, 07:46:38 PM
lol, "scottish cafu" chant. Nice :)
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: four fornicholl on July 12, 2017, 07:47:00 PM
Whatever any of us say, that's one hell of a group of players to be putting out tonight. Telford and Kiddie will be well happy.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 12, 2017, 07:47:39 PM
I feel dizzy.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Tuscans on July 12, 2017, 07:53:55 PM
Goal Hourihane
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: paul_e on July 12, 2017, 07:53:58 PM
Watching the Telford game mainly (have both streams going on different screens) Amavi, Green, Veretout and Davis have all started really well for me.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 12, 2017, 07:54:00 PM
YESSSS. Promoted by Christmas.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: JUAN PABLO on July 12, 2017, 07:54:03 PM
hourihane scores
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Dave Cooper please on July 12, 2017, 07:54:06 PM
I quite like watching two games at the same time, and we've scored at Kiddy, Hogan.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Dave Cooper please on July 12, 2017, 07:54:30 PM
Or even Hotlips.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on July 12, 2017, 07:54:46 PM
We are staying up! We are staying up!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on July 12, 2017, 07:56:04 PM
Bloody hell Richards is bad.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Ducksworthy on July 12, 2017, 07:57:54 PM
I've got one game on the laptop and the other on the telly. If I add the two sides together it's almost like I'm watching the first team!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: eamonn on July 12, 2017, 07:59:25 PM
I've got one game on the laptop and the other on the telly. If I add the two sides together it's almost like I'm watching the first team!

Duckworth Lewis Method, Mr Ducksworthy?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: paul_e on July 12, 2017, 08:05:11 PM
The cornor Bunn just gave away is the sort of thing that makes me think he's shit, just too busy thinking about what he was going to do next and dropped the ball.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 12, 2017, 08:09:36 PM
I've got one game on the laptop and the other on the telly.

I hadn't thought of that! Cheers.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: London Villan on July 12, 2017, 08:10:58 PM
Who has gone off injured at telford?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 12, 2017, 08:11:37 PM
Who had 27 minutes in the Baker sweep?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 12, 2017, 08:11:40 PM
Baker and Albert both off. New season, same old injuries.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: London Villan on July 12, 2017, 08:11:59 PM
Great!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: paul_e on July 12, 2017, 08:12:19 PM
Who has gone off injured at telford?

Adomah for o'hare and baker for mitch clark.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on July 12, 2017, 08:12:35 PM
Let me guess. Baker head injury?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 12, 2017, 08:13:53 PM
Good stuff by Green, apart from hitting the crossbar.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 12, 2017, 08:14:12 PM
Green is excellent at hitting the woodwork.

Another bloody unlucky player!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Tuscans on July 12, 2017, 08:14:19 PM
Goal 2
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 12, 2017, 08:14:27 PM
Champions by November.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: paul_e on July 12, 2017, 08:14:48 PM
Let me guess. Baker head injury?

Of course.

Green hits the post.  Villa are totally on top but Lansbury and Gabby are pretty anonymous.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on July 12, 2017, 08:14:53 PM
Chester 0-2
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 12, 2017, 08:15:02 PM
Chester puts us two up at Kidder while I was busy watching a Telford attack.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: London Villan on July 12, 2017, 08:15:41 PM
Has Samba signed?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 12, 2017, 08:15:54 PM
I don't think so. He's on trial.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 12, 2017, 08:16:09 PM
Shit on the Kiddy, shit on the Kiddy tonight.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Tuscans on July 12, 2017, 08:16:34 PM
Chester puts us two up at Kidder while I was busy watching a Telford attack.
Captains goal that, whatever that means.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 12, 2017, 08:16:40 PM
Dafuq was that?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: UK Redsox on July 12, 2017, 08:17:12 PM
I'm watching the Kidde game because the YT stream is better quality
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on July 12, 2017, 08:17:13 PM
gards with his usual wasted long range free kick.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Goldie.7 on July 12, 2017, 08:17:28 PM
Hopefully Hogan can get on the scoresheet.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 12, 2017, 08:21:30 PM
1-0 up at Telford.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Dave Cooper please on July 12, 2017, 08:21:32 PM
1 up at Telfraud, deflected Andre Green shot I think.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Tuscans on July 12, 2017, 08:21:38 PM
I'm watching the Kidde game because the YT stream is better quality
They're both on youtube.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Ducksworthy on July 12, 2017, 08:21:39 PM
1-0 up at Telford after a very odd deflection there for Andre Green.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: devilla on July 12, 2017, 08:23:38 PM
Yes it was. He's looked good as has Amavi.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on July 12, 2017, 08:26:02 PM
Pure class from Hutton. Really well played.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: devilla on July 12, 2017, 08:26:03 PM
Great ball by Hutton there.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Tuscans on July 12, 2017, 08:30:09 PM
It looks like Hogan is hated by all at the club but you then realise we're pathetic at picking out good movement, phew!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: UK Redsox on July 12, 2017, 08:31:39 PM
I'm watching the Kidde game because the YT stream is better quality
They're both on youtube.

I know. The quality of the picture of the Kidde game is better
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: four fornicholl on July 12, 2017, 08:31:50 PM
Bunn ? It's a no from me.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt Collins on July 12, 2017, 08:35:27 PM
Ridiculous to make any conclusions based on 45 mins against these teams, but what the heck:

Green has been the standout along with amavi. It will be such a shame if the formation means we don't see much of him, or if he has to wait behind gabby (who's done nowt)

Hogan has looked reasonably sharp

Tshibola has quick feet and has looked quite good

Hutton played one great pass but otherwise has done his thing: run head down until he either runs into an oppo player or passes / crosses to one

Gardner just isn't good enough - I'd rather give Tshibola a chance

Managed to misss both goals
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: London Villan on July 12, 2017, 08:36:55 PM
Channel hopping ive missed all three goals and the subs!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Woofles The Wonder Dog on July 12, 2017, 08:39:32 PM
For the first friendly of the season, the team at Kiddy have put effort in, particularly Ross. Defence has been pretty awful.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on July 12, 2017, 08:41:56 PM
Not to dignify them with a mention but what the heck. How sad is it you get Blue Noses and Newcastle fans coming and watching Villa pre season games? I mean I know they are obsessed but thats VERY strange. I cant imagine giving a shit about their games outside of when they play us, friendly or otherwise. Sad boys.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Ducksworthy on July 12, 2017, 08:44:50 PM
Not to dignify them with a mention but what the heck. How sad is it you get Blue Noses and Newcastle fans coming and watching Villa pre season games? I mean I know they are obsessed but thats VERY strange. I cant imagine giving a shit about their games outside of when they play us, friendly or otherwise. Sad boys.

I did think that myself - I wouldn't even have known they had a pre-season game on in the first place...
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: paul_e on July 12, 2017, 08:49:40 PM
pen at telford, for us.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: four fornicholl on July 12, 2017, 08:50:27 PM
Not to dignify them with a mention but what the heck. How sad is it you get Blue Noses and Newcastle fans coming and watching Villa pre season games? I mean I know they are obsessed but thats VERY strange. I cant imagine giving a shit about their games outside of when they play us, friendly or otherwise. Sad boys.

I did think that myself - I wouldn't even have known they had a pre-season game on in the first place...
Whats the story?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Dave Cooper please on July 12, 2017, 08:50:29 PM
Penalty at Telfraud.

Scored by Lansbury
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: paul_e on July 12, 2017, 08:50:37 PM
pen at telford, for us.

Scored by Lansbury, good pen.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 12, 2017, 08:53:57 PM
Good run by O'Hare. He looks promising.

And three-nil at Telford. Gabby. Always raises his game for the big derby showdowns.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Ducksworthy on July 12, 2017, 08:53:58 PM
3-0 at Telford Gabby - was just about to say O'Hare looks like he has something about him.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: paul_e on July 12, 2017, 08:54:00 PM
3 against telford, gabby with the third, good ball in by, i think, bree.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Dave Cooper please on July 12, 2017, 08:54:02 PM
Fuck me Gabby has scored! 3-0 at Telfraud.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Ducksworthy on July 12, 2017, 08:55:23 PM
Not to dignify them with a mention but what the heck. How sad is it you get Blue Noses and Newcastle fans coming and watching Villa pre season games? I mean I know they are obsessed but thats VERY strange. I cant imagine giving a shit about their games outside of when they play us, friendly or otherwise. Sad boys.

I did think that myself - I wouldn't even have known they had a pre-season game on in the first place...
Whats the story?

In the live chat at the side of the youtube videos there are just some Geordies and SHA commentors going on and on. One particularly lovely Newcastle fellow named Bert decided to sign off with "hope you look forward to your daughters being raped by Muslims" for some reason.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 12, 2017, 08:55:38 PM
Who is our number 16 at Telford? Has Baker come back on? I can't even remember which match he was substituted in.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: paul_e on July 12, 2017, 08:56:41 PM
Who is our number 16 at Telford? Has Baker come back on? I can't even remember which match he was substituted in.

Bree.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 12, 2017, 08:57:41 PM
Ah yes, of course!

McCormack could've scored twelve by now.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: paul_e on July 12, 2017, 09:00:03 PM
Veretout has been really good in that game, totally controlling the midfield.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: paul_e on July 12, 2017, 09:05:06 PM
Veretout has been really good in that game, totally controlling the midfield.

Just had a truly horrific effort at goal, sliced it out for a throw in.  Did really well in the build up though.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 12, 2017, 09:05:11 PM
Which match is Bruce at, and who is managing us in the other one?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 12, 2017, 09:05:42 PM
Which match is Bruce at, and who is managing us in the other one?

Telford and Calderwood. I think.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 12, 2017, 09:06:26 PM
Richards made to look a mug by a trialist for the shit.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: paul_e on July 12, 2017, 09:07:08 PM
If Davis can learn how to use his size a little better he could be a really good player in a year or 2, his technique and movement is good but he lets people get too close to the ball.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 12, 2017, 09:07:44 PM
Which match is Bruce at, and who is managing us in the other one?

Telford and Calderwood. I think.

Ta.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 12, 2017, 09:09:13 PM
And Richards is subbed which weakens the opposition.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: murfee on July 12, 2017, 09:10:41 PM
Channel hopping ive missed all three goals and the subs!

just scroll back at the bottom of the screen
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 12, 2017, 09:10:58 PM
Gardner still looks a bit crap.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Ducksworthy on July 12, 2017, 09:11:02 PM
Thor really is rubbish, isn't he?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on July 12, 2017, 09:14:57 PM
I would sooner see Samba play than Richards and I dont particularly want to see Samba.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: VancouverLion on July 12, 2017, 09:15:21 PM
Veretout would be ace in the league we're in!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 12, 2017, 09:15:28 PM
I was about to say we look pretty crap at the shit and we almost scored thanks to a comical own goal.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 12, 2017, 09:16:54 PM
I didn't realise Tommy Mooney's son played for us.

Is Steven Pressley's son on the bench?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 12, 2017, 09:16:54 PM
Bit worrying how the trialist brothers are causing us so many problems.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 12, 2017, 09:18:00 PM
Gardner off and Abdo on. Corey Taylor on for Hutton.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on July 12, 2017, 09:18:08 PM
Bloody hell. Some Samba quality there. Impressive.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 12, 2017, 09:18:15 PM
How much are we playing John Terry? Could have signed Samba for a fraction of the price!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Ducksworthy on July 12, 2017, 09:18:22 PM
Good run and cracking ball through by Samba. Might be worth having the option for the right money?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: paul_e on July 12, 2017, 09:18:55 PM
Knibbs (20 in the telford game) looks very quick but hasn't got himself into the game yet.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 12, 2017, 09:19:57 PM
How much are we playing John Terry? Could have signed Samba for a fraction of the price!

And at least Samba could be bothered to play. 60k a week and watches tennis instead.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: paul_e on July 12, 2017, 09:20:45 PM
How much are we playing John Terry? Could have signed Samba for a fraction of the price!

And at least Samba could be bothered to play. 60k a week and watches tennis instead.

Leader!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 12, 2017, 09:21:10 PM
Was he really at the tennis? I'm not sure if this is part of some jolly jape that I missed.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Richard on July 12, 2017, 09:22:05 PM
Solid stuff so far in both games and lots of players not even involved this evening.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Ducksworthy on July 12, 2017, 09:22:42 PM
Was he really at the tennis? I'm not sure if this is part of some jolly jape that I missed.

The commentator for the Kiddie game said he was at Wimbledon today so I assume it's true.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 12, 2017, 09:23:21 PM
Was he really at the tennis? I'm not sure if this is part of some jolly jape that I missed.

Nope. He was at Wimbledon with his family.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 12, 2017, 09:23:42 PM
McKirdy scores.

Calderwood Villa 3 Bruce Villa 3.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Dave Cooper please on July 12, 2017, 09:23:42 PM
3-0 at Kiddy, tp in for McKirdy
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 12, 2017, 09:24:19 PM
Shit 0-3 Villa. McKirdy.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 12, 2017, 09:24:36 PM
Another Villa pen at Telford.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 12, 2017, 09:25:16 PM
Lansbury scores. 4-0.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 12, 2017, 09:25:20 PM
4-0 Henri
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Dave Cooper please on July 12, 2017, 09:25:28 PM
Lansbury takes a mean penalty
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 12, 2017, 09:26:36 PM
When I was just a little boy, I asked my mother what will I be.
Will I be Kiddy, will I be green,  here's what she said to me.
Wash your mouth out son, and go get your father's gun etc etc
We hate Kiddy and we hate Kiddy.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: paul_e on July 12, 2017, 09:26:44 PM
Another Villa pen at Telford.

Brilliant break from defence by mitch clark to create it, he looks a good young player despite being a bit small for a centre half.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 12, 2017, 09:28:43 PM
He's eighteen, so there's still a chance he could get taller.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 12, 2017, 09:31:22 PM
FT KH 0 Villa 3.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 12, 2017, 09:32:38 PM
And FT AFCTU 0 Villa 4.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on July 12, 2017, 09:34:18 PM
Good stuff. Enjoyed that. I think I may have been wrong about Samba, I thought he looked good.

Someone slap some sense in to me.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Proposition Joe on July 12, 2017, 09:34:35 PM
I think the claret and blue Villa would beat the black one, who've done a tribute to Bill Hicks' JFK sketch for most of the second half.  When I saw the lineups I thought that the team at Telford had the more interesting midfield, but the one at Kiddy the more interesting foward line, but Hogan and McCormack look a fair bit off the pace.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt Collins on July 12, 2017, 09:38:44 PM
Bree looked quite tasty I thought

Thor didn't look great

We had a lot of very small kids come on who looked quite skilful but like they'd never make it physically

Bit of a shame that none of our main strikers scored
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on July 12, 2017, 09:40:01 PM
We didn't win 56-0 in either match. Not good enough. Sack him now.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: peter w on July 12, 2017, 09:46:29 PM
disagree about Thor. I thought he linked up play in midfield quite well. Other notable nods to Veretout, Samba, Hourihane, Chester, and O'hare. Amavi looked good as the 2nd half went on.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt Collins on July 12, 2017, 09:46:34 PM
I thought McCormack looked dangerous but just couldn't quite score - bit like the start of last season

Can't comment either way on the central midfielders

Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 12, 2017, 09:50:02 PM
I found it very difficult to work out who was who. Hopefully they have their names on their back in a very large typeface on Saturday.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: paul_e on July 12, 2017, 09:51:35 PM
Veretout was my pick today but I did find myself watch ing that game a lot more, I thought the whole team looked good, Lansbury and Gabby started poorly but got into more after about half hour.  Hard to offer much on Adomah or Baker who both went off very early though.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt Collins on July 12, 2017, 10:14:44 PM
disagree about Thor. I thought he linked up play in midfield quite well. Other notable nods to Veretout, Samba, Hourihane, Chester, and O'hare. Amavi looked good as the 2nd half went on.

He's got good movement and I like the prospect of him playing wide to give us balance (e.g. Hard working and tucked in, say on the opposite side to green in a four). I just wish he didn't give the ball away so much
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Louzie0 on July 12, 2017, 10:21:47 PM
Really great idea to have 2 games on at the same time.

Cracking results! Gosh, to get goals coming in (at a rate of what felt like) constantly.
Excellent decision to field the experience and then, put on the young players.
Thank you, Steve Bruce.

If this is a preview of the coming season, I am a total fan.

Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on July 13, 2017, 06:02:56 AM
Yeah good job all around. FYI if anyone missed the games the full games are now up to watch again. NICE!




Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: eamonn on July 13, 2017, 08:36:33 AM
Hmm, life's a bit short for watching them through now even if at the same time. Any highlights around?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: paul_e on July 13, 2017, 09:46:02 AM
Hmm, life's a bit short for watching them through now even if at the same time. Any highlights around?

If you're just wanting the goals ...

Telford game:
39:50 - Green deflected goal - https://youtu.be/MnhJNgZEyQk?t=39m50s (https://youtu.be/MnhJNgZEyQk?t=39m50s)
1:08:30 - First penalty - https://youtu.be/MnhJNgZEyQk?t=1h08m30s (https://youtu.be/MnhJNgZEyQk?t=1h08m30s)
1:12:10 - Gabby goal - https://youtu.be/MnhJNgZEyQk?t=1h12m10s (https://youtu.be/MnhJNgZEyQk?t=1h12m10s)
1:43:20 - Second penalty - https://youtu.be/MnhJNgZEyQk?t=1h43m20s (https://youtu.be/MnhJNgZEyQk?t=1h43m20s)

Kidderminster game:
12:50 - Hourihane goal - https://youtu.be/wyy8SNJrWSM?t=12m50s (https://youtu.be/wyy8SNJrWSM?t=12m50s)
33:50 - Chester goal - https://youtu.be/wyy8SNJrWSM?t=33m50s (https://youtu.be/wyy8SNJrWSM?t=33m50s)
1:42:00 - McKirdy goal - https://youtu.be/wyy8SNJrWSM?t=1h42m00s (https://youtu.be/wyy8SNJrWSM?t=1h42m00s)


I've tried to have them early enough to show the build up for most, the chester one is from a free kick and there was a fair bit of standing about so that's closer to the goal that the others.


For me the gabby goal is the best of the lot, really good cross from Bree and great build up by him and o'Hare down the right.  The Hourihane one is the sort of messy shit that we've conceded far too often in the last few years.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: tomd2103 on July 13, 2017, 11:48:09 AM
disagree about Thor. I thought he linked up play in midfield quite well. Other notable nods to Veretout, Samba, Hourihane, Chester, and O'hare. Amavi looked good as the 2nd half went on.

Interesting that he was involved and I guess it could either mean that he is in Bruce's plans for next season or he's in the shop window.  I kind of hope that it is the former as I think there is player in there and he could definitely contribute, but I'm guessing he is also one of our few sellable assets so might need to be sold if an offer comes in to raise some funds.     
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: maigrait on July 13, 2017, 11:54:15 AM
thanks posting that paul_e. I watched most of it last night (whilst I was working *cough*) but good to see some highlights again...
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Comrade Blitz on July 13, 2017, 12:00:56 PM
It was depressing to lots of Villa players dropping like flies on tackles. Is it now a football thing just to feign injury all the time?

Fair play to Trialist No 20 on Kiddie who popped right up one time after a hard tackle at the start of the 2nd half.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Jimbo on July 13, 2017, 12:45:25 PM
Did Gerald Appleyard play, and was he any good?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: CT Villan on July 13, 2017, 01:01:28 PM
How about a caption competition...

Photo from Birmingham Mail.
(http://i2.birminghammail.co.uk/incoming/article13325891.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/JS125234787.jpg)

Holy Shit, Hutton got a cross into the box.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Clampy on July 13, 2017, 01:06:35 PM
I watched a half of each game. Amavi and Green looked good down the left hand side and Samba might be an ideal player to bring on in the last 10-15 minutes of games if he get's a contract.

Bjarnnason looked the pick of the bunch for me in the second half of the Kiddy game. I think he'll be an important player if he nails down a starting place.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: boozey182 on July 13, 2017, 01:11:28 PM
How did Mitchell Clark play? I only had it on in the background. Was he at centre back? That run for the second penalty was like nothing I've seen a Villa player do for a very long time!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: paul_e on July 13, 2017, 02:00:33 PM
How did Mitchell Clark play? I only had it on in the background. Was he at centre back? That run for the second penalty was like nothing I've seen a Villa player do for a very long time!

He did well, swept up behind Samba well so the latter could come out and win anything they hit long.  He is a bit short but his distribution was good and his position was good so he might be able to convert to a defensive midfielder.  In general the defence in the Telford game looked very comfortable, not like the other game where I saw Hutton and Richards both get skinned a couple of times.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: eamonn on July 13, 2017, 02:24:32 PM
Hmm, life's a bit short for watching them through now even if at the same time. Any highlights around?

If you're just wanting the goals ...

Telford game:
39:50 - Green deflected goal - https://youtu.be/MnhJNgZEyQk?t=39m50s (https://youtu.be/MnhJNgZEyQk?t=39m50s)
1:08:30 - First penalty - https://youtu.be/MnhJNgZEyQk?t=1h08m30s (https://youtu.be/MnhJNgZEyQk?t=1h08m30s)
1:12:10 - Gabby goal - https://youtu.be/MnhJNgZEyQk?t=1h12m10s (https://youtu.be/MnhJNgZEyQk?t=1h12m10s)
1:43:20 - Second penalty - https://youtu.be/MnhJNgZEyQk?t=1h43m20s (https://youtu.be/MnhJNgZEyQk?t=1h43m20s)

Kidderminster game:
12:50 - Hourihane goal - https://youtu.be/wyy8SNJrWSM?t=12m50s (https://youtu.be/wyy8SNJrWSM?t=12m50s)
33:50 - Chester goal - https://youtu.be/wyy8SNJrWSM?t=33m50s (https://youtu.be/wyy8SNJrWSM?t=33m50s)
1:42:00 - McKirdy goal - https://youtu.be/wyy8SNJrWSM?t=1h42m00s (https://youtu.be/wyy8SNJrWSM?t=1h42m00s)


I've tried to have them early enough to show the build up for most, the chester one is from a free kick and there was a fair bit of standing about so that's closer to the goal that the others.


For me the gabby goal is the best of the lot, really good cross from Bree and great build up by him and o'Hare down the right.  The Hourihane one is the sort of messy shit that we've conceded far too often in the last few years.

Thanks, Paul!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: eamonn on July 13, 2017, 02:37:50 PM
I didn't recognise half our players. Makes you realise how much we depend on the names on the backs of shirts.

Who was the young lad that ran most of the pitch before he was felled for the second peno?
And McKirdy looks about 13...Hogan didn't congratulate him on the goal, probably pissed that he didn't get on the scoresheet himself. Interesting interview with him on Pravda about his targets for this season, he comes across very self-confident.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Legion on July 13, 2017, 02:52:04 PM
Hmm, life's a bit short for watching them through now even if at the same time. Any highlights around?

If you're just wanting the goals ...

Telford game:
39:50 - Green deflected goal - https://youtu.be/MnhJNgZEyQk?t=39m50s (https://youtu.be/MnhJNgZEyQk?t=39m50s)
1:08:30 - First penalty - https://youtu.be/MnhJNgZEyQk?t=1h08m30s (https://youtu.be/MnhJNgZEyQk?t=1h08m30s)
1:12:10 - Gabby goal - https://youtu.be/MnhJNgZEyQk?t=1h12m10s (https://youtu.be/MnhJNgZEyQk?t=1h12m10s)
1:43:20 - Second penalty - https://youtu.be/MnhJNgZEyQk?t=1h43m20s (https://youtu.be/MnhJNgZEyQk?t=1h43m20s)

Kidderminster game:
12:50 - Hourihane goal - https://youtu.be/wyy8SNJrWSM?t=12m50s (https://youtu.be/wyy8SNJrWSM?t=12m50s)
33:50 - Chester goal - https://youtu.be/wyy8SNJrWSM?t=33m50s (https://youtu.be/wyy8SNJrWSM?t=33m50s)
1:42:00 - McKirdy goal - https://youtu.be/wyy8SNJrWSM?t=1h42m00s (https://youtu.be/wyy8SNJrWSM?t=1h42m00s)


I've tried to have them early enough to show the build up for most, the chester one is from a free kick and there was a fair bit of standing about so that's closer to the goal that the others.


For me the gabby goal is the best of the lot, really good cross from Bree and great build up by him and o'Hare down the right.  The Hourihane one is the sort of messy shit that we've conceded far too often in the last few years.

Thanks for that. Just posted it on our FB Page.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt Collins on July 13, 2017, 03:13:59 PM
How did Mitchell Clark play? I only had it on in the background. Was he at centre back? That run for the second penalty was like nothing I've seen a Villa player do for a very long time!

He did well, swept up behind Samba well so the latter could come out and win anything they hit long.  He is a bit short but his distribution was good and his position was good so he might be able to convert to a defensive midfielder.  In general the defence in the Telford game looked very comfortable, not like the other game where I saw Hutton and Richards both get skinned a couple of times.

Does Clark normally play centre back? He looked tiny for a centre back
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: paul_e on July 13, 2017, 04:01:04 PM
I didn't recognise half our players. Makes you realise how much we depend on the names on the backs of shirts.

Who was the young lad that ran most of the pitch before he was felled for the second peno?
And McKirdy looks about 13...Hogan didn't congratulate him on the goal, probably pissed that he didn't get on the scoresheet himself. Interesting interview with him on Pravda about his targets for this season, he comes across very self-confident.

The lad for the 2nd pen was Mitch Clark, centre half who is, as you can tell from this thread, a bit short, he looked good though.  o'Hare (wearing 29 in the Telford game) was the standout of the kids for me, he looked really dangerous.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: paul_e on July 13, 2017, 04:04:34 PM
Hmm, life's a bit short for watching them through now even if at the same time. Any highlights around?

If you're just wanting the goals ...

Telford game:
39:50 - Green deflected goal - https://youtu.be/MnhJNgZEyQk?t=39m50s (https://youtu.be/MnhJNgZEyQk?t=39m50s)
1:08:30 - First penalty - https://youtu.be/MnhJNgZEyQk?t=1h08m30s (https://youtu.be/MnhJNgZEyQk?t=1h08m30s)
1:12:10 - Gabby goal - https://youtu.be/MnhJNgZEyQk?t=1h12m10s (https://youtu.be/MnhJNgZEyQk?t=1h12m10s)
1:43:20 - Second penalty - https://youtu.be/MnhJNgZEyQk?t=1h43m20s (https://youtu.be/MnhJNgZEyQk?t=1h43m20s)

Kidderminster game:
12:50 - Hourihane goal - https://youtu.be/wyy8SNJrWSM?t=12m50s (https://youtu.be/wyy8SNJrWSM?t=12m50s)
33:50 - Chester goal - https://youtu.be/wyy8SNJrWSM?t=33m50s (https://youtu.be/wyy8SNJrWSM?t=33m50s)
1:42:00 - McKirdy goal - https://youtu.be/wyy8SNJrWSM?t=1h42m00s (https://youtu.be/wyy8SNJrWSM?t=1h42m00s)


I've tried to have them early enough to show the build up for most, the chester one is from a free kick and there was a fair bit of standing about so that's closer to the goal that the others.


For me the gabby goal is the best of the lot, really good cross from Bree and great build up by him and o'Hare down the right.  The Hourihane one is the sort of messy shit that we've conceded far too often in the last few years.

Thanks for that. Just posted it on our FB Page.

No worries, I'd missed a few of them myself so I been skipping through to find them anyway, taking note of the times as I did wasn't much effort and I figured it might be useful for people.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: boozey182 on July 13, 2017, 04:06:10 PM
How did Mitchell Clark play? I only had it on in the background. Was he at centre back? That run for the second penalty was like nothing I've seen a Villa player do for a very long time!

He did well, swept up behind Samba well so the latter could come out and win anything they hit long.  He is a bit short but his distribution was good and his position was good so he might be able to convert to a defensive midfielder.  In general the defence in the Telford game looked very comfortable, not like the other game where I saw Hutton and Richards both get skinned a couple of times.

Thanks. It's a shame he isn't a few inches taller, as I think that will be his undoing as a centre back. That run though was mightily impressive, no matter what position he was playing in. He looks a real asset; I hope we can find a position for him to thrive in.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Mister E on July 13, 2017, 05:04:52 PM
How did Mitchell Clark play? I only had it on in the background. Was he at centre back? That run for the second penalty was like nothing I've seen a Villa player do for a very long time!

He did well, swept up behind Samba well so the latter could come out and win anything they hit long.  He is a bit short but his distribution was good and his position was good so he might be able to convert to a defensive midfielder.  In general the defence in the Telford game looked very comfortable, not like the other game where I saw Hutton and Richards both get skinned a couple of times.

Thanks. It's a shame he isn't a few inches taller, as I think that will be his undoing as a centre back. That run though was mightily impressive, no matter what position he was playing in. He looks a real asset; I hope we can find a position for him to thrive in.
Defensive MF?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Clampy on July 14, 2017, 01:15:06 PM
For those who were wondering, the second game over in Germany on the Tuesday has been switched to a place called Erkenschwick.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Richie on July 14, 2017, 01:35:48 PM
Does anyone know if there are any tickets left for the Walsall match ? The online link doesn't seem to be working and I've been on hold on the phone to the club for about 15 minutes !
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on July 14, 2017, 06:29:31 PM
For those who were wondering, the second game over in Germany on the Tuesday has been switched to a place called Erkenschwick.

Is that a real place???
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Clampy on July 15, 2017, 08:23:52 AM
For those who were wondering, the second game over in Germany on the Tuesday has been switched to a place called Erkenschwick.

Is that a real place???

Apparently so and they have their own team!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Clampy on July 15, 2017, 08:25:34 AM
Another player who impressed me on Wednesday was that Jacob Bedeau. He looked very comfortable on the ball.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on July 15, 2017, 09:22:33 AM
For those who were wondering, the second game over in Germany on the Tuesday has been switched to a place called Erkenschwick.

Is that a real place???

Apparently so and they have their own team!

They seem to have 2 teams; SpVgg Erkenschwick and FC 26 Erkenschwick. 2 grounds right next to each other.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 15, 2017, 09:26:08 AM
Imagine if they teamed up? The force of a combined Erkenschwick would be unstoppable!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: b23 on July 15, 2017, 02:00:35 PM
WATCH LIVE HERE: Shrewsbury Town v Aston Villa

https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2017/07/14/watch-live-here-shrewsbury-v-villa
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Dazvillain on July 15, 2017, 02:31:39 PM
Great line up,he means business !
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 15, 2017, 02:35:57 PM
We've fucked this up. No taxi till quater last three... might make the second half!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: VancouverLion on July 15, 2017, 02:38:46 PM
No Lansbury, that's a surprise.
Solid 442, Green and Barney wide with Veretout and Hourihane central.
Terry named captain.
Looks a decent side.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Richard on July 15, 2017, 02:42:13 PM
Yes decent side and this one isn't bad either !

Steer

Bree
Samba
Baker
Amavi

Adomah
Lansbury
Jedi
Grealish

Kodjia
RHM
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Mossie Hennebry on July 15, 2017, 02:52:13 PM
WATCH LIVE HERE: Shrewsbury Town v Aston Villa

https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2017/07/14/watch-live-here-shrewsbury-v-villa

I will. Thank you very much!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: London Villan on July 15, 2017, 03:03:19 PM
What was the starting line up?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 15, 2017, 03:05:22 PM
Johnstone, Hutton, Chester, Twat ©, Taylor, Green, Veretout, Hourihane, Bjarnason, McCormack, Hogan.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: paul_e on July 15, 2017, 03:14:02 PM
Lovely ball inside the full back from Veretout there, Taylor needed to get a better cross from that.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on July 15, 2017, 03:14:26 PM
Abba really is poor isn't he.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 15, 2017, 03:15:08 PM
Good stuff by Hutton and Green.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 15, 2017, 03:20:13 PM
We still shit ourselves with the ball any time an opposition player comes close.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 15, 2017, 03:21:44 PM
And our throw ins are still shit.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Mossie Hennebry on July 15, 2017, 03:26:14 PM
You may as well kick the ball out as give it to Hutton in an attacking position 
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 15, 2017, 03:28:02 PM
Let off there.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: jwarry on July 15, 2017, 03:29:15 PM
Bruce clearly having a look at Veretout
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: passitsideways on July 15, 2017, 03:30:11 PM
McCormack looks proper pub right now.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 15, 2017, 03:30:42 PM
I have to say the coverage is excellent. Watching it on my TV through YouTube.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: paul_e on July 15, 2017, 03:38:15 PM
Green is so much more dangerous on the right than the left.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Mister E on July 15, 2017, 03:39:40 PM
Green, Veretout and Barney look okay. All a bit laid back.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 15, 2017, 03:44:02 PM
What's the status with Jack?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 15, 2017, 03:44:32 PM
Hutton was always going to foul him then
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: paul_e on July 15, 2017, 03:44:48 PM
Green, Veretout and Barney look okay. All a bit laid back.

Agree on the first the latter suffers the same problem as Hutton, he does all the things that fans like to see but just doesn't offer any threat.

RM and Hourihane have bene poor for me and Taylor looks very limited.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Hairbandinho on July 15, 2017, 03:46:19 PM
Still can't see what style of play they are actually trying to attempt
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: paul_e on July 15, 2017, 03:47:44 PM
Still can't see what style of play they are actually trying to attempt

Seems to be give the ball to Green and hope if I'm honest.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 15, 2017, 03:48:05 PM
Fat Ross has been awful, we seem to have no idea how to play to Hogan's strengths. Hutton and Green looked okay, as did Veretout in patches. We're still far too slow in attack though and our passing is still crap. Still, a point away from home is always a decent result!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: andyh on July 15, 2017, 03:48:14 PM
I know I'm not allowed to say it.
But I'm going to anyway...that was fucking shit.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Hairbandinho on July 15, 2017, 03:48:27 PM
All this money spent..not sure to what effect!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Mister E on July 15, 2017, 03:49:13 PM
It's going to take a while to get used to hearing Terry's name in the commentary.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 15, 2017, 03:49:23 PM
Still can't see what style of play they are actually trying to attempt

Me neither. I know it's early days but it's a tough call to say which team are the Third Division outfit.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on July 15, 2017, 03:49:31 PM
Thought Green was our best player that half. McCormack did OK, Hogan anonymous, Chester and Terry looked OK together. Thor anonymous, Hourihane busy.

Interesting to see what the team is like 2nd half.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: darren woolley on July 15, 2017, 03:51:18 PM
I agree Green was our best player first half.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Dazvillain on July 15, 2017, 03:52:27 PM
What's the status with Jack?
He's been on playing in goals whilst they were all out in Portugal !
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt Collins on July 15, 2017, 03:59:37 PM
Sounds a bit rubbish - but friendlies often are

Good to hear green doing ok

The big thing we need to work on this summer is pattern of play. I gather little signe of that so far
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 15, 2017, 04:01:12 PM
No HT subs.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Richard on July 15, 2017, 04:01:35 PM
Jack has been given extra time off due to his international commitments though I believe he didn't actually play one single minute for the under 21s !?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: CT Villan on July 15, 2017, 04:07:14 PM
My word McCormack is shocking. Green is our only attacking threat.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: passitsideways on July 15, 2017, 04:10:58 PM
The midfielders are always so deep in this side - all they get to do really is play the Westwood role of working it around the middle, instead of actually being able to attempt some threatening passes.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on July 15, 2017, 04:19:08 PM
Micah fcukin Richards just fcuk off.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 15, 2017, 04:19:26 PM
Richards on and given the armband.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 15, 2017, 04:20:13 PM
Richards on and given the armband.

Heard that. Unfookingbelieveable.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: olaftab on July 15, 2017, 04:20:32 PM
I like Bruce in his made to measure fitted top. Looks as though Pies were on the menu at the all inclusive  holiday resort.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on July 15, 2017, 04:20:40 PM
I'm actually beginning to think he's part of Bruce's plans this season.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: olaftab on July 15, 2017, 04:21:39 PM
Richards on and given the armband.
Yes another problem with Bruce as the manager.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 15, 2017, 04:22:03 PM
I'm actually beginning to think he's part of Bruce's plans this season.

Utter rubbish. As if Steve Bruce has a plan!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: manic-road on July 15, 2017, 04:22:11 PM
Richards on and given the armband.

Hope its a farewell present.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 15, 2017, 04:25:31 PM
Unlucky from Gards!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: manic-road on July 15, 2017, 04:25:51 PM
Great effort Gards.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Pete3206 on July 15, 2017, 04:26:39 PM
If there's f--- all money to spend and we can't shift anyone, why wouldn't Bruce look at all his current options?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: oswald funkletrumpet on July 15, 2017, 04:29:13 PM
Fair play to those that have travelled you must be mad!

Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 15, 2017, 04:29:17 PM
Looking at him is one thing, giving him the armband is another even if it is just a friendly.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: CT Villan on July 15, 2017, 04:30:04 PM
We ain't getting promoted if we continue playing this 8-0-2 formation.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 15, 2017, 04:31:10 PM
Hutton at CB is, er, 'interesting'.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 15, 2017, 04:32:24 PM
Lulz 1-0 down
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Woofles The Wonder Dog on July 15, 2017, 04:33:35 PM
Lulz 1-0 down

And we've been so good too. Life is cruel.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: CT Villan on July 15, 2017, 04:34:19 PM
This is crap...I'm off to watch the Tour de France instead.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: four fornicholl on July 15, 2017, 04:34:49 PM
Commentator- Amavi, what can he do?
Answer- Not a fucking lot.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: olaftab on July 15, 2017, 04:34:58 PM
Great work by Amavi to give the corner and even better defending from Gardner.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: olaftab on July 15, 2017, 04:35:49 PM
Commentator- Amavi, what can he do?
Answer- Not a fucking lot.
It was I can't be bothered with this so I will just swing a leg.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 15, 2017, 04:36:01 PM
Hutton and Richards as the CB pairing, sexy times.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Pete3206 on July 15, 2017, 04:36:14 PM
Someone at Sevilla played a blinder there.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Hairbandinho on July 15, 2017, 04:36:26 PM
So I can only assume the instruction is the two central midfielders are not to move forwards and attack at all. It's going to be long hard season isn't it.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 15, 2017, 04:36:43 PM
2-0 haha
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: CT on July 15, 2017, 04:37:02 PM
2-0.

It's all part of the plan....
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: four fornicholl on July 15, 2017, 04:37:26 PM
Any regrets yet Terry?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: VillaAlways on July 15, 2017, 04:37:27 PM
Fucking rubbish
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 15, 2017, 04:38:26 PM
At least Angela can play a killer ball. To a Shrewsbury forward.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Villafirst on July 15, 2017, 04:38:51 PM
Good to see that the double training sessions have paid off...
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on July 15, 2017, 04:39:51 PM
On the basis that I've seen no discernible difference between the tripe served up last season and these three games I say Bruce out before the season starts.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 15, 2017, 04:39:52 PM
I like how the commentator keeps saying "a chance to use one of those set pieces they've been training on in Portugal" and 5 seconds later we see a truly abysmal set piece.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: devilla on July 15, 2017, 04:39:57 PM
Good grief, Richards really is incredibly fat.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: olaftab on July 15, 2017, 04:40:10 PM
Watch Richards movement during that second goal.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 15, 2017, 04:40:55 PM
Watch Richards movement during that second goal.

Which part of him moved, his arse or his belly?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Tucson Villain on July 15, 2017, 04:42:23 PM
Good grief, Richards really is incredibly fat.

And incredibly shit.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Mossie Hennebry on July 15, 2017, 04:43:01 PM
Boooooo!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Legion on July 15, 2017, 04:43:20 PM
Normal service resumed.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 15, 2017, 04:43:49 PM
Richards looks like one of those fans that's won a competition to play in a game for 10 minutes.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: olaftab on July 15, 2017, 04:44:02 PM
I am hoping that most of these players want to get away so  not wanting to get injured by putting some effort in to the match.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: avfcpg on July 15, 2017, 04:44:36 PM
What did they do in Portugal exactly..play golf?
I know it's only a friendly but I remain convinced that Bruce has absolutely no idea what he is doing...
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Clark W Griswold on July 15, 2017, 04:45:10 PM
Beyond dismal. I cannot fucking believe my eyes.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: CT on July 15, 2017, 04:45:21 PM
Good grief, Richards really is incredibly fat.

And incredibly shit.

It's good to see he takes his responsibility as club clown on and off the pitch very seriously.

I know it's a friendly, but the fact SB gave him the armband and that we look no better than Shrewsbury Town worries me.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 15, 2017, 04:46:01 PM
I really haven't a clue what we're trying to do so far in these friendlies as we seem to have no real style of play or any kind of plan. And no, i'm not Steve Bruce.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 15, 2017, 04:47:16 PM
Penalty, it looked a bit of a soft one.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Clark W Griswold on July 15, 2017, 04:47:40 PM
The comeback is on.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Pete3206 on July 15, 2017, 04:47:43 PM
Penalty? Really?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Steve67 on July 15, 2017, 04:47:49 PM
Clueless knob. This man will not get us promoted.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 15, 2017, 04:47:50 PM
Angie scores, 2-1.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: olaftab on July 15, 2017, 04:47:57 PM
I knew Shrews couldn't hang on with our incessant pressure
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 15, 2017, 04:48:32 PM
FT. Utter shit.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Pete3206 on July 15, 2017, 04:49:05 PM
Booooooooooo!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Mister E on July 15, 2017, 04:49:14 PM
Same old, same old.
Inability to create or take chances.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: olaftab on July 15, 2017, 04:49:53 PM
FT. Utter shit.
Don't agree it was worse than that.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 15, 2017, 04:50:46 PM
It's actually quite an impressive achievement to look that bad against a Division 3 side.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 15, 2017, 04:50:51 PM
FT. Utter shit.
Don't agree it was worse than that.

Don't agree it was much worse than that.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: oswald funkletrumpet on July 15, 2017, 04:50:55 PM
Poor shape, pedestrian and toothless

Its going to be a long season
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: CT Villan on July 15, 2017, 04:51:13 PM
Forget that shit, Froome just took the yellow jersey back :)
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Richard on July 15, 2017, 04:52:35 PM
Oh come on who really cares about a pre season friendly let's see what happens in 3 weeks.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: andyh on July 15, 2017, 04:52:57 PM
One paced, laborious, predicable. No ability to make or create space. No ability to move the opposition around.

That was us last season.

There has been no footballing epiphany over the summer.

Bruce has just shown that we should expect the same next season.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: avfcpg on July 15, 2017, 04:52:58 PM
Plus points.....one more step towards Bruce's exit.
Minus points....life's too short...haven't got time.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: paul_e on July 15, 2017, 04:53:17 PM
lots of people seemed to think that if Bruce had a pre-season with the squad things would be better, when will we start seeing evidence of it?

Hutton at centre half is possibly the worst positional decision I've seen, he had no idea what he was doing.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on July 15, 2017, 04:53:32 PM
Bruce out!

Richards why? Awful just like every Villa fan in the world knew he would be.

Amavi - worst left back I have ever seen play for us (and yes I saw Bernie Gallagher).

Hutton at centre back when Samba is on the bench?

Tsibola was awful. Lansbury not great. Gardner at least put an effort in.

I just don't think Bruce has a clue about tactics, or training.

The team in the first half was far better though.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: avfcpg on July 15, 2017, 04:54:56 PM
lots of people seemed to think that if Bruce had a pre-season with the squad things would be better, when will we start seeing evidence of it?

Hutton at centre half is possibly the worst positional decision I've seen, he had no idea what he was doing.

He had 3/4 of a season with us...a pre season isn't and hasn't made a jot of difference. No tactics, way too deep, forwards isolated, no cohesion...oh I could go on...it's been awful under him.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: devilla on July 15, 2017, 04:55:48 PM
My eagerness to buy tickets for the first game has just taken a battering.

Can't see any difference from last season. Complete shambles, Richards as captain sums it up.

Only Green and Davis looked the part today.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Richard on July 15, 2017, 04:56:56 PM
AshtonVilla is right though the 8 changes led to their goals does anyone seriously think Hutton and Richards will be our centre halves next season ?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: olaftab on July 15, 2017, 05:07:21 PM
Oh come on who really cares about a pre season friendly let's see what happens in 3 weeks.
Yes very funny.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: KevinGage on July 15, 2017, 05:11:15 PM
Reckon Richards is playing (if you can even call it that) to get paid off.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on July 15, 2017, 05:18:48 PM
Where to fcukin start with that.  I have no idea why we signed Hogan.  He may as well be in the stand getting paid for all the service we give him. 

Are Hutton and Richards going to be the Centre Half pairing for next season - no so why fcukin put them there. 

Richards in Shrewsbury let alone being given the captaincy is a complete piss take.

No discernible difference not one from last season.  He needs to go before the season starts.  Why wait for the inevitable end of September sacking.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: BC54 VFC on July 15, 2017, 05:30:41 PM
We've fucked this up. No taxi till quater last three... might make the second half!
You shouldn't have spent so long on Pride Hill asking the locals whether they pronounce it 'Shrow' or 'Shrew'.😉
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Villafirst on July 15, 2017, 05:34:48 PM
Lethargic, lack of urgency, mediocrity, you name it was all in evidence today. No spark at all. Where was Samba? One of the better performers in midweek, nowhere....
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: 1958Villan on July 15, 2017, 05:35:04 PM
Having watched the three games so far only confirmed what I thought at the back-end of last season.
Hourihane was way way over-hyped, his free-kicks and corners are exact replica's of Westwoods and he seems to have lost any ability he may have had to actually pass a ball further than 5-yards, never mind forward.
Amavi is definitely not a leftback.
McCormack needs to lose two stone. Its obvious to see the football brain is there but, he's too slow in his reactions to take advantage of that brain.
Hogan makes some great runs but, unless someone other than Hutton, at least tries to feed him some decent balls, he will become discouraged pretty quickly.
Andre Green, Keinan Davis and Harry McKirdy look even more like great prospects.
Thor, (Bjarnason), looks like he could develop into a useful player.

Mr.Bruce needs to settle on a formation and play it pretty quickly.
4-4-2 isn't going to work with the players we've got in midfield.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: BC54 VFC on July 15, 2017, 05:36:52 PM
Richards looks like one of those fans that's won a competition to play in a game for 10 minutes.
That's exactly what I was thinking before I read your post!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Ads on July 15, 2017, 05:37:31 PM
I am absolutely livid at the performance. Absolute shocking stuff.

To give wickets away so cheaply. Disgusting stuff.

Was there football today?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: peter w on July 15, 2017, 05:46:50 PM
I won't get too downbeat as ir was only a friendly but even so, I would have expected to see us create a chance. I can't remember one chance that we had. The penalty was a poor decision and the only shot on target. Nothing from outfield. I thought Hogan actually moved well but the ball was never put in front of him. Hourihane picks it up deep and we have no movement from midfield or nous to get the ball to Hogan in the right areas. That was incredibly disappointing.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: CT on July 15, 2017, 05:49:40 PM
Lethargic, lack of urgency, mediocrity, you name it was all in evidence today. No spark at all. Where was Samba? One of the better performers in midweek, nowhere....

For a team that is desperate to hit the ground running, we look the same old plodding outfit we've done for so long now.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on July 15, 2017, 06:09:53 PM
Still, we were excellent in the last minute
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: devilla on July 15, 2017, 06:20:27 PM
We go again.......I'll get my coat.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt Collins on July 15, 2017, 06:48:54 PM
Bruce and calderwood have to solve a tactical puzzle this summer - how to make sure we have goal threat, are robust and can keep the ball

This is tough as none of the options seem to quite work on paper. And no signs we're solving it yet, it seems
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on July 15, 2017, 06:52:05 PM
I sent a text to jnr at full time telling him the final score and his response was;
....."we are shit"
Its hard to argue with that
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: SoccerHQ on July 15, 2017, 06:53:50 PM
People really getting worked up about pre season games again?

Didn't Lincoln beat us one of the summers we finished 6th under MON?

I'd say the one to judge would be Watford a week before the season as I remember last year Boro turned up and played us off the pitch and that set the tone for the start of last season when we could hardly win a game.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: clash city rocker on July 15, 2017, 07:00:22 PM
Off the wall I know but if the ingredients you are given are...beef . Onion. Beer  chorizo. Ginger..   .you can't make a chicken curry with it.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: olaftab on July 15, 2017, 07:02:09 PM
Some restaurants down the Balti belt can.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: exiled on the wirral! on July 15, 2017, 07:04:56 PM
It is a friendly...an excersise where you try out different formations,  a chance to look at different options, and a chance to get players fit ready for the start of the season. The result really doesn't matter at the end of the day. There was a time you didn't even know when a pre season friendly was going ahead..nowadays to some people the results of a friendly is fundamental to how our season is going to pan out. Some people really need to get a grip.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: AV5nobs on July 15, 2017, 07:05:07 PM
I am absolutely livid at the performance. Absolute shocking stuff.

To give wickets away so cheaply. Disgusting stuff.

Was there football today?

Quality.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: AV5nobs on July 15, 2017, 07:09:15 PM
Amavi, worth keeping I think the other thread alluded to.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 15, 2017, 07:19:03 PM
I don't give a shit about the result, surprisingly though I do give a shit that we look incapable of creating many chances, are still slow and ponderous on the ball, regularly gave the ball ball away, most of the players looked like they'd never seen each other before and that we struggled to take a decent throw in or set piece and still look like we have no real plan on how to win a game apart from hope something happens. That it was the same as so much of last season is why it could, or maybe should, be a concern.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: paul_e on July 15, 2017, 07:25:18 PM
I don't give a shit about the result, surprisingly though I do give a shit that we look incapable of creating many chances, are still slow and ponderous on the ball, regularly gave the ball ball away, most of the players looked like they'd never seen each other before and that we struggled to take a decent throw in or set piece and still look like we have no real plan on how to win a game apart from hope something happens. That it was the same as so much of last season is why it could, or maybe should, be a concern.

Exactly, I give a shit that we have all the same problems going forward that we had for most of last season and whatever they've done so far in pre-season learning how to look like a team that know each other doesn't appear to have been on the list.  I also give a shit and that he appears to be trying to integrate Gabby, Richards and McCormack back into the team when the first 2 have stunk the squad out for ages and the latter was so unprofessional that even Bruce had enough of him last year.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: AV5nobs on July 15, 2017, 07:28:16 PM
Fantastic day out.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on July 15, 2017, 07:30:02 PM
Agree with both of the above.  I've been a supporter of the manager even during the dirge of January but fcuk me along with other managers he does seem to have this egotistical self destruct button that will I have almost no doubt be his downfall.  Micah fcukin Richards as Captain it defies any logic in any stratosphere.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 15, 2017, 07:35:44 PM
Disclaimer: only an early preseason friendly.

Unavoidable: all the problems of last season on show. Utterly unable to create chances. No movement, no nous, just a non-functioning mass of rubbish.

McCormack is fat, Richards is shit AND a ******, and there are few things more depressing than the sight of Gabby ambling onto the pitch.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: four fornicholl on July 15, 2017, 07:42:09 PM
I hope John Terrys' phone conversations with his ex team mates aren't how I imagine they will be.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: frank black on July 15, 2017, 07:44:05 PM
Agree with both of the above.  I've been a supporter of the manager even during the dirge of January but fcuk me along with other managers he does seem to have this egotistical self destruct button that will I have almost no doubt be his downfall.  Micah fcukin Richards as Captain it defies any logic in any stratosphere.

Micah Richards defies logic.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: AV5nobs on July 15, 2017, 07:46:43 PM
Jesus, shame the bookmakers don't really pay much attention to these warm up games.

Roll on Hull 3 weeks.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: tony scott on July 15, 2017, 07:50:49 PM
A lot of people are saying the result doesn't matter, imo it does can someone tell me how are we going to develope a winning mentality by playing poorly and losing?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: olaftab on July 15, 2017, 07:52:03 PM
I am absolutely livid at the performance. Absolute shocking stuff.

To give wickets away so cheaply. Disgusting stuff.

Was there football today?

Quality.
Good to see a meeting of minds on here.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on July 15, 2017, 07:54:29 PM
Right now Hull are losing 2-0 at home to Oxford. So if pre season results at this stage are so important then we should be OK first game.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: AV5nobs on July 15, 2017, 07:55:20 PM
Right now Hull are losing 2-0 at home to Oxford. So if pre season results at this stage are so important then we should be OK first game.

Sense finally.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: VillaAlways on July 15, 2017, 08:20:54 PM
A lot of people are saying the result doesn't matter, imo it does can someone tell me how are we going to develope a winning mentality by playing poorly and losing?
Because we're fans we want us to win every game regardless. Unfortunately the players aren't  fans so I'm guessing it's all about minutes on the pitch and the result is meaningless. Brilliant day today, Shrewsbury is a beautiful town.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on July 15, 2017, 08:30:23 PM
What I hope Steve Bruce learned today is not to play two right backs in central defence, we were playing OK until then! That and never picking donkeys like Amavi and Richards and expecting not to concede goals.

Positives

Thought Hourihane, Lansbury were both ok. Bree looked ok. Hutton was good at right back. Terry Chester Taylor Hutton look a very solid back 4. Green looked good.

Worries

Hogan and McCormack never look like scoring. Both are good players, but Bruce sets us up so no movement and no service.

Meh

Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: peter w on July 15, 2017, 08:37:51 PM
Hourihane was okay when he picked up the ball but there was little to no creativity from him.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: paul_e on July 15, 2017, 08:51:07 PM
What I hope Steve Bruce learned today is not to play two right backs in central defence, we were playing OK until then! That and never picking donkeys like Amavi and Richards and expecting not to concede goals.

Positives

Thought Hourihane, Lansbury were both ok. Bree looked ok. Hutton was good at right back. Terry Chester Taylor Hutton look a very solid back 4. Green looked good.

Worries

Hogan and McCormack never look like scoring. Both are good players, but Bruce sets us up so no movement and no service.

Meh



Amavi was fine when he came on, yes he put the ball out for the corner they scored from but he didn't really have many other options. Other that he, like everyone, played a few misplaced passes.  He was certainly far from being one of the 2 worst players on the pitch as your post suggests.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: eamonn on July 15, 2017, 08:57:58 PM
Obviously the result doesn't matter but the fact that our style of play remains turgid and disjointed is pretty dispiriting.

I guess the penny should have dropped long ago that Bruce is not going to try and play an expansive, attacking style at this stage of his career. It was just hoped that Calderwood and the young, ex Bluenose chap he has as assistants might have a positive influence in that regard but there's little sign of it.

At least the other promotion faves, Sunderland, lost too. Got whipped 3-0 by mighty St Johnstone.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: ozzjim on July 15, 2017, 09:14:15 PM
We did not create a chance in open play at all. Hogan looked a willing runner but McCormack lost the ball way too often to build an attack. Veretout and Hourihane both sat far to deep, I wanted one of them to kick into the box and add the extra man but neither did. It just highlighted how 2 banks of 4 is the most limited tactic ever if you don't give any freedom within it. Gabby looked to at least turn the defence round, I would like to see him and Hogan together next time out. Just sell McCormack because it isn't going to work with him here.

Terry and Chester looked fine. Taylor looked understandably rusty. Green did well first half.

We have to try the 3 5 2 now though. Especially if it allows the midfield to get forward more.

Oh and Bjarnason looked lost.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on July 15, 2017, 09:27:13 PM
On the plus side Terry looked like the premier league player he is.

On the negative side "Thor" looks like he isn't up to this level of football. By "this level" I mean pre season lower league. :(
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: old man villa fan on July 15, 2017, 09:46:36 PM
Result doesn't matter but performance does. Are we just going through the motions again.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt Collins on July 15, 2017, 10:41:12 PM
Ok I'm not so peturbed by conceding two with a Comedy Central defence that will never play

More concerned to hear we had no shots on target and passed the ball badly despite having a fairly first choice team out there

Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: olaftab on July 16, 2017, 12:15:50 AM
Yes it was pre season friendly and yes the result didn't matter and yes it's all about getting fit but BUT how often have we said that in the past 6 seasons? Every season is my guess and look where we have ended up😟
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Ads on July 16, 2017, 01:16:20 AM
I don't know, maybe we say it every year? I don't personally give a flying feck what happens in them. I stopped going to England friendlies 10 years ago and I haven't seen Villa play one since Inter whenever that may have been. They get their pound of flesh from me between August and May.

The only friendlies I can recall from days gone by are Tottenham's where they battered everybody senseless pre-season as SSN reported in great detail and were bottom in October.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Uknowthescore on July 16, 2017, 02:11:32 AM
It's a friendly where the main objective is to stretch the legs. Bruce out. Dick heads
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: eamonn on July 16, 2017, 02:52:49 AM
Result doesn't matter but performance does. Are we just going through the motions again.

Going through the motions in someone else's car
and I think we missed our turning back there
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: ozzjim on July 16, 2017, 07:16:18 AM
Yes it was pre season friendly and yes the result didn't matter and yes it's all about getting fit but BUT how often have we said that in the past 6 seasons? Every season is my guess and look where we have ended up😟

Wolves have won against much better opposition. I bet their fans have a bit more optimism than we do right now.  I get the fitness thing but as said above, shit pre season performances have not been turned into decent league ones
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Three Spires Villa on July 16, 2017, 09:04:21 AM
Boring, turgid, disappointing a normal Steve Bruce team
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: willenhall villa on July 16, 2017, 09:29:42 AM
Just spun through the YouTube vids of the games and I think JV has looked the most impressive midfielder. Still a lack of service to our forward players and has Hogan touched the ball? Thought Davis did well when he came on.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Ads on July 16, 2017, 09:41:00 AM
Championship football is about functional game management and making fewer mistakes than the opposition. You need to abandon any other mind set and acclimatise to the league.

Newcastle had such a good away record because they found a way to pinch goals and squeeze the life from the game. Brighton had Sidwell and Dale Stephens as their central midfield with one outlet ball.

Huddersfield away typified this; we cut them open a few times in the first half, very even thereafter but switch off for a couple of seconds from a corner and that's all she wrote.

Boring, turgid, functional is exactly what you need; Newcastle, Brighton, Burnley, Boro et al have all shown how it's done.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: curlytailavfc on July 16, 2017, 09:42:46 AM
I think were in cant be arsed mode again
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Risso on July 16, 2017, 09:58:17 AM
The result is meaningless in itself, but what would be really nice would be to see the merest glint of hope that this season is going to be better than last.  We've only got one new player so far, so it isn't like Bruce is having to get lots of new players bonding, but yesterday was the same witless, lumpen rubbish we had to endure for most of last season under him.  No movement, no pace, no guile, and being outpassed.  Utter rubbish, in other words.  I just want to see something from the pre-season games that shows Bruce is the man to get us up this season.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Clampy on July 16, 2017, 10:15:31 AM
It was a disappointing performance but the result doesn't matter too much, just as long as it's not carried on into the season.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: AV82EC on July 16, 2017, 10:22:22 AM
Championship football is about functional game management and making fewer mistakes than the opposition. You need to abandon any other mind set and acclimatise to the league.

Newcastle had such a good away record because they found a way to pinch goals and squeeze the life from the game. Brighton had Sidwell and Dale Stephens as their central midfield with one outlet ball.

Huddersfield away typified this; we cut them open a few times in the first half, very even thereafter but switch off for a couple of seconds from a corner and that's all she wrote.

Boring, turgid, functional is exactly what you need; Newcastle, Brighton, Burnley, Boro et al have all shown how it's done.

I agree with this. The flaw is we can't even do that properly but as others have said it's a pre season friendly. I'll become worried if we get to the end of August and it hasn't changed.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: SoccerHQ on July 16, 2017, 10:26:41 AM
Reading the reports the most disappointing thing for me is that Hogan and McCormack as a combination were pretty anonymous.

Steve Bruce will be in big trouble if he tries to brush away a poor start to the season by waiting for Kodjia to get fit, that could be 6 weeks after the season starts at which point we'd have played pretty much 10 league games so a decent chunk of the season.

Of course I accept the midfield set up isn't helping but surely for 25m combined those two should be capable of dangerous moments even from speculative balls.

From all the highlights videos of him at Fulham he was a striker who can create goals out of nothing....25 yard shots into the top corner, ridiculous long range free kicks which has seemed to evaporate here.

Hogan's a little different because it's obvious he's a 6 yard poacher but from what I saw of him last year v QPR and Reading he has little body strength as he was incapable of holding the ball up against the CBs and lost it everytime.

Kodjia is still our number one striker by a country mile and with the speculative forward game we play we need an unpredictable striker who can create chances and goals out of little.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on July 16, 2017, 11:03:24 AM
Championship football is about functional game management and making fewer mistakes than the opposition. You need to abandon any other mind set and acclimatise to the league.

Newcastle had such a good away record because they found a way to pinch goals and squeeze the life from the game. Brighton had Sidwell and Dale Stephens as their central midfield with one outlet ball.

Huddersfield away typified this; we cut them open a few times in the first half, very even thereafter but switch off for a couple of seconds from a corner and that's all she wrote.

Boring, turgid, functional is exactly what you need; Newcastle, Brighton, Burnley, Boro et al have all shown how it's done.

I agree with this. The flaw is we can't even do that properly but as others have said it's a pre season friendly. I'll become worried if we get to the end of August and it hasn't changed.

I would argue Newcastle went into every game believing they will win. We haven't done that for a long time. Our players think they could probably win.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: SoccerHQ on July 16, 2017, 11:17:48 AM
Newcastle simply had a much better mentality away from home than we did.

I don't think their home record was much better than ours, fairly sure they lost more at home than us.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: wittonwarrior on July 16, 2017, 11:22:18 AM
Normally wouldn't blink an eyelid but the total lack of ball skill out there yesterday was worrying. The team itself as it is set up more suited to rdm. As for jt a cut above the rest and stuck out looking like peaches and cream
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on July 16, 2017, 12:19:43 PM

It wasn't great yesterday that's for sure. The only player to show any sparkle for me was Green, and Lyden at least showed some intent to get at em in his very brief cameo as well. I didn't think Veretout showed anything unlike some people did, the midfield in general was absolutely awful. And more proof (if needed) that we just can't play with a two man central midfield. We've tried variations and it never seems to work. So why not stick to the three that 'does'? at least in some fashion

Can anyone tell me when Micah Richards got so fat? people went on and on about McCormack and Gabby looking beefy last season but Micah takes the absolute biscuit. By the packet apparently. Absolutely disgusting condition for a professional footballer
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt Collins on July 16, 2017, 12:53:41 PM
Got a stinking cold so watching the first half now

Poor passing - as soon as we got into a tight position we give it away - main culprits Thor (time and time again - like every time I see him) McCormack,  plus sometimes hogan and hourihane

Tend to agree the midfield two doesn't work -  but we might need to find a way to make it work. I much prefer the starting back four to a back three and I think Bruce is probably right that we need to play two strikers, or one up and one off. Hourihane and Lansbury both seem pretty powderpuff though

Hogan makes good runs but I think he'll be much better if playing the channels with proper creative players behind him. He was definitely brighter than McCormack

Thought green was ok but some of the praise overdone - edit: in fact he's given it away quite a lot (admittedly playing tucked in on the right which isn't his position)

Overall, id be more worried if we're turning in performances  like his in two or three games time. There's still very little discernible pattern of play; and sorting that has to be the big priority. I guess we've only had about three weeks of pre season

But it would be nice if supporting villa wasn't so relentlessly disappointing
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Pete3206 on July 16, 2017, 01:08:47 PM
Apart from Veretout who is probably leaving, the enitire midfield contingent has the speed and turning ability of a Caterpillar dump truck. I never thought I would pine for players like Barry Bannan, but he's Lionel Messi compared to the slow motion antics of Lansbury, Hourihane, Gardner and Bjarnason. Is it any wonder that strikers like McCormack and Hogan struggle, when you have such a lack of pace, creativity and more worringly, an inability to find a player with the same coloured shirt, in the middle of the pitch.

Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on July 16, 2017, 01:18:37 PM
Apart from Veretout who is probably leaving, the enitire midfield contingent has the speed and turning ability of a Caterpillar dump truck. I never thought I would pine for players like Barry Bannan, but he's Lionel Messi compared to the slow motion antics of Lansbury, Hourihane, Gardner and Bjarnason. Is it any wonder that strikers like McCormack and Hogan struggle, when you have such a lack of pace, creativity and more worringly, an inability to find a player with the same coloured shirt, in the middle of the pitch.

I must have missed Veretout's contribution. Because he looked as useless as the rest to me
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: garyshawsknee on July 16, 2017, 01:23:28 PM
I don't understand how Bruce can make a midfield two look so woeful and ineffective, whereas a lot of other Championship teams make it work. Brighton got promoted playing a two with two wingers, one of those midfielders was Sidwell, Chris Hughton must be a miracle worker.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt Collins on July 16, 2017, 01:30:09 PM
I don't understand how Bruce can make a midfield two look so woeful and ineffective, whereas a lot of other Championship teams make it work. Brighton got promoted playing a two with two wingers, one of those midfielders was Sidwell, Chris Hughton must be a miracle worker.

You can replace 'Bruce' with 'every villa mananger since MON' though
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on July 16, 2017, 01:46:04 PM
I don't understand how Bruce can make a midfield two look so woeful and ineffective, whereas a lot of other Championship teams make it work. Brighton got promoted playing a two with two wingers, one of those midfielders was Sidwell, Chris Hughton must be a miracle worker.

Wouldn't it better to question why none of the two midfielders we've picked to do it can make it work? they're the ones with the ball at their feet after all
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: passitsideways on July 16, 2017, 01:59:47 PM
I don't understand how Bruce can make a midfield two look so woeful and ineffective, whereas a lot of other Championship teams make it work. Brighton got promoted playing a two with two wingers, one of those midfielders was Sidwell, Chris Hughton must be a miracle worker.

Wouldn't it better to question why none of the two midfielders we've picked to do it can make it work? they're the ones with the ball at their feet after all

If you put Xavi and Iniesta in a midfield two in, say, that Wimbleton team of the 80s and 90s where the job of the centre mids was basically to kick the shit out of anyone who dared to pass through, and punt any ball that fell to them into the corners for someone to chase, do you really think they would've distinguished themselves in any way?

It's basically impossible for any midfielder to show what they're capable of if the setup isn't right. It doesn't have to be perfectly accommodating for them, but we're not close to finding something that's helpful.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: peter w on July 16, 2017, 02:18:49 PM
The other issue was that the back four were sitting far too deep, probably worried about our lack of pace, meaning that the midfield were also sitting too deep. The forwards had to then come to the half way line just to try and link-up play and get the ball. Misplacing paces really is neither here nor there when you're just picking up the fitness levels, but getting the set-up wrong is not something that will improve with more games.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: garyshawsknee on July 16, 2017, 02:24:09 PM
I don't understand how Bruce can make a midfield two look so woeful and ineffective, whereas a lot of other Championship teams make it work. Brighton got promoted playing a two with two wingers, one of those midfielders was Sidwell, Chris Hughton must be a miracle worker.

Wouldn't it better to question why none of the two midfielders we've picked to do it can make it work? they're the ones with the ball at their feet after all

Or ask the question, how can we sign two of the best central midfielders in The Championship and turn them into average players lacking any spark or ability to play attacking football ?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt Collins on July 16, 2017, 02:42:55 PM
I just wonder if they really were two of the best? They both score goals I agree. But I don't remember either looking great against us - Westwood and Gardner bossed the game at home to forest and it's not often you can say that!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on July 16, 2017, 03:34:32 PM
I don't understand how Bruce can make a midfield two look so woeful and ineffective, whereas a lot of other Championship teams make it work. Brighton got promoted playing a two with two wingers, one of those midfielders was Sidwell, Chris Hughton must be a miracle worker.

Wouldn't it better to question why none of the two midfielders we've picked to do it can make it work? they're the ones with the ball at their feet after all

Or ask the question, how can we sign two of the best central midfielders in The Championship and turn them into average players lacking any spark or ability to play attacking football ?

Well i can only speak for myself but i've never rated Lansbury as anything near being one of the best in the Championship. And his brief stint at Villa so far hasn't changed that view. I see signs in Hourihane that he can be a very good player for us, but he's certainly not performing at his Barnsley level yet. But i don't see how the manager can be blamed for a player not playing at his best

Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt Collins on July 16, 2017, 03:51:15 PM
I certainly don't recall either being linked with moves to the prem - may be wrongly though
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: peter w on July 16, 2017, 04:08:15 PM
Fully agree. thoroughly underwhelmed by him. We need a player in the middle who can make things happen, Can get at teams, run at players, that's not Lansbury. Great from the spot though...
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt Collins on July 16, 2017, 04:57:58 PM
I'd settle for central midfielders who can pass the ball reliably and wide players who can deliver quality.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: SoccerHQ on July 16, 2017, 06:43:37 PM
Apart from Veretout who is probably leaving, the enitire midfield contingent has the speed and turning ability of a Caterpillar dump truck. I never thought I would pine for players like Barry Bannan, but he's Lionel Messi compared to the slow motion antics of Lansbury, Hourihane, Gardner and Bjarnason. Is it any wonder that strikers like McCormack and Hogan struggle, when you have such a lack of pace, creativity and more worringly, an inability to find a player with the same coloured shirt, in the middle of the pitch.



Hourihane was very much a box to box player at Barnsley
I don't understand how Bruce can make a midfield two look so woeful and ineffective, whereas a lot of other Championship teams make it work. Brighton got promoted playing a two with two wingers, one of those midfielders was Sidwell, Chris Hughton must be a miracle worker.

Wouldn't it better to question why none of the two midfielders we've picked to do it can make it work? they're the ones with the ball at their feet after all

If you put Xavi and Iniesta in a midfield two in, say, that Wimbleton team of the 80s and 90s where the job of the centre mids was basically to kick the shit out of anyone who dared to pass through, and punt any ball that fell to them into the corners for someone to chase, do you really think they would've distinguished themselves in any way?

It's basically impossible for any midfielder to show what they're capable of if the setup isn't right. It doesn't have to be perfectly accommodating for them, but we're not close to finding something that's helpful.

On a lesser scale it's a little similar to when we we had Petrov-Barry as the midfield combination (sorry to be all nostalgic to the days when we could actually win a match or two).

Both excellent and clever footballers and they could certainly keep the ball effectively and also move it out quickly to Young so he could get one v one with the full back.

However it was one paced and we struggled many times when teams would come to VP and play three centrally against them.

Always looked better when we put another body in there like NRC or Sidwell even if they were average. Even better when Milner was moved there and it felt like two players alongside Petrov given the vast distance he covered every match.

I still think we need Jedinak or another player of his ilk in there but at the same time we must give more licence for Hourihane and especially Lansbury to push forward and actually join Kodjia in the box for crosses and chances
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Ivo Stas on July 16, 2017, 08:33:37 PM
If I was a visiting alien who had to make a judgement call based solely on watching the Shrewsbury game (and perhaps had watched the final game of last season - Brighton - whilst travelling here in my saucer), I'd suggest that - of all our available strikers - we look best suited to playing Davis up front (and least effective with Hogan). I can't see Bruce being brave enough to do so however.

Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt Collins on July 16, 2017, 08:44:54 PM
Apart from Veretout who is probably leaving, the enitire midfield contingent has the speed and turning ability of a Caterpillar dump truck. I never thought I would pine for players like Barry Bannan, but he's Lionel Messi compared to the slow motion antics of Lansbury, Hourihane, Gardner and Bjarnason. Is it any wonder that strikers like McCormack and Hogan struggle, when you have such a lack of pace, creativity and more worringly, an inability to find a player with the same coloured shirt, in the middle of the pitch.



Hourihane was very much a box to box player at Barnsley
I don't understand how Bruce can make a midfield two look so woeful and ineffective, whereas a lot of other Championship teams make it work. Brighton got promoted playing a two with two wingers, one of those midfielders was Sidwell, Chris Hughton must be a miracle worker.

Wouldn't it better to question why none of the two midfielders we've picked to do it can make it work? they're the ones with the ball at their feet after all

If you put Xavi and Iniesta in a midfield two in, say, that Wimbleton team of the 80s and 90s where the job of the centre mids was basically to kick the shit out of anyone who dared to pass through, and punt any ball that fell to them into the corners for someone to chase, do you really think they would've distinguished themselves in any way?

It's basically impossible for any midfielder to show what they're capable of if the setup isn't right. It doesn't have to be perfectly accommodating for them, but we're not close to finding something that's helpful.

On a lesser scale it's a little similar to when we we had Petrov-Barry as the midfield combination (sorry to be all nostalgic to the days when we could actually win a match or two).

Both excellent and clever footballers and they could certainly keep the ball effectively and also move it out quickly to Young so he could get one v one with the full back.

However it was one paced and we struggled many times when teams would come to VP and play three centrally against them.

Always looked better when we put another body in there like NRC or Sidwell even if they were average. Even better when Milner was moved there and it felt like two players alongside Petrov given the vast distance he covered every match.

I still think we need Jedinak or another player of his ilk in there but at the same time we must give more licence for Hourihane and especially Lansbury to push forward and actually join Kodjia in the box for crosses and chances

I agree w every word if we're just focusing on the midfield. But the implication is either that we play with one striker, or three at the back. And there are big questions about both options - essentially (for different reasons) are they attacking enough to score the goals we'll need to get promotion?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on July 16, 2017, 08:56:24 PM
If I was a visiting alien and happened across a Villa game as one of my first experience on earth, I'd leg it back into the saucer get those delorean doors flipped up at double speed and back to space I'd go.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: ozzjim on July 16, 2017, 10:46:12 PM
Hourihane was pretty incredible for Barnsely and made it work in a 4 4 2. I think Bruce has them both sitting very deep rather than 1 getting forward and supporting the attack. Which then leaves the forwards isolated and less to target for the wingers. Lansbury is ok but he's little more than a more confident Gardner.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: SoccerHQ on July 16, 2017, 10:51:45 PM
Apart from Veretout who is probably leaving, the enitire midfield contingent has the speed and turning ability of a Caterpillar dump truck. I never thought I would pine for players like Barry Bannan, but he's Lionel Messi compared to the slow motion antics of Lansbury, Hourihane, Gardner and Bjarnason. Is it any wonder that strikers like McCormack and Hogan struggle, when you have such a lack of pace, creativity and more worringly, an inability to find a player with the same coloured shirt, in the middle of the pitch.



Hourihane was very much a box to box player at Barnsley
I don't understand how Bruce can make a midfield two look so woeful and ineffective, whereas a lot of other Championship teams make it work. Brighton got promoted playing a two with two wingers, one of those midfielders was Sidwell, Chris Hughton must be a miracle worker.

Wouldn't it better to question why none of the two midfielders we've picked to do it can make it work? they're the ones with the ball at their feet after all

If you put Xavi and Iniesta in a midfield two in, say, that Wimbleton team of the 80s and 90s where the job of the centre mids was basically to kick the shit out of anyone who dared to pass through, and punt any ball that fell to them into the corners for someone to chase, do you really think they would've distinguished themselves in any way?

It's basically impossible for any midfielder to show what they're capable of if the setup isn't right. It doesn't have to be perfectly accommodating for them, but we're not close to finding something that's helpful.

On a lesser scale it's a little similar to when we we had Petrov-Barry as the midfield combination (sorry to be all nostalgic to the days when we could actually win a match or two).

Both excellent and clever footballers and they could certainly keep the ball effectively and also move it out quickly to Young so he could get one v one with the full back.

However it was one paced and we struggled many times when teams would come to VP and play three centrally against them.

Always looked better when we put another body in there like NRC or Sidwell even if they were average. Even better when Milner was moved there and it felt like two players alongside Petrov given the vast distance he covered every match.

I still think we need Jedinak or another player of his ilk in there but at the same time we must give more licence for Hourihane and especially Lansbury to push forward and actually join Kodjia in the box for crosses and chances

I agree w every word if we're just focusing on the midfield. But the implication is either that we play with one striker, or three at the back. And there are big questions about both options - essentially (for different reasons) are they attacking enough to score the goals we'll need to get promotion?

First problem with one upfront is if your striker dosen't score enough. That wasn't an issue last season with Kodjia hitting close to 20.

Bigger problem was hardly anyone scoring from midfield (give Hourihane and particularly Lansbury more licence) and the wide players not chipping in.

I certainly agree with people saying we need another wide player. Adomah, Grealish and Green dosen't strike to me consistant 9 month promotion winning performances.

Only real logic to us supposedly wanting El-Mohamady in that he would give width but then I don't see him as anywhere near good enough to improve us into a top 2 side, that would be a Matt Richie type who score score 10 and also provide that in assists.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Richard on July 16, 2017, 10:53:35 PM
Spot on Ozzjim if one pushes to support the two strikers and two wide men surely if we get hit on the break 4 defenders and the other midfielder is sufficient ? That's why the full backs for me are crucial as they can't get caught out of position too much. Bree for me instead of Hutton would help.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Tayls_7 on July 16, 2017, 10:58:56 PM
Spot on Ozzjim if one pushes to support the two strikers and two wide men surely if we get hit on the break 4 defenders and the other midfielder is sufficient ? That's why the full backs for me are crucial as they can't get caught out of position too much. Bree for me instead of Hutton would help.

That's basically saying try someone other than Hutton because we've seen precious little of Bree so far.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: ozzjim on July 17, 2017, 01:35:58 AM
Spot on Ozzjim if one pushes to support the two strikers and two wide men surely if we get hit on the break 4 defenders and the other midfielder is sufficient ? That's why the full backs for me are crucial as they can't get caught out of position too much. Bree for me instead of Hutton would help.

That's basically saying try someone other than Hutton because we've seen precious little of Bree so far.

I think that is going on the basis that no one can be worse than Hutton at marauding out of position and leaving a huge hole for the opposition to punish. Oh yes... Richards. I will take the Bree option too please. Or De Leat.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt Collins on July 17, 2017, 07:20:48 AM
Spot on Ozzjim if one pushes to support the two strikers and two wide men surely if we get hit on the break 4 defenders and the other midfielder is sufficient ? That's why the full backs for me are crucial as they can't get caught out of position too much. Bree for me instead of Hutton would help.

Can't think of many teams playing like this at the moment?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: peter w on July 17, 2017, 07:20:51 AM
Thing is bree hasn't shown anything in the admittedly short exposure that he's had that he's any better than hutton. Hutton does try and get forward but just can't do it well enough.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: AV82EC on July 17, 2017, 07:52:59 AM
Thing is bree hasn't shown anything in the admittedly short exposure that he's had that he's any better than hutton. Hutton does try and get forward but just can't do it well enough.

I'd disagree think he's shown a lot of composure that Hutton lacks. He's focused on defending with occasional forays to support forwards. He certainly isn't all action like Hutton and we look a much better balanced team for it.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: old man villa fan on July 17, 2017, 08:28:59 AM
Thing is bree hasn't shown anything in the admittedly short exposure that he's had that he's any better than hutton. Hutton does try and get forward but just can't do it well enough.

As we seem to want to build many of our attacks down the right, we are wasting most of our opportunities because of Hutton's poor final ball or his runs down blind alleys.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt Collins on July 17, 2017, 10:06:23 AM
I don't know if it's that we want to, or that opponents would rather give Hutton space than Taylor or

Similarly, I remember when we played 352 v Ipswich and Nathan baker saw a lot of the ball. I'm sure that was deliberate on their part
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Proposition Joe on July 17, 2017, 11:44:28 AM
Trying to put my finger on why we look so toothless. I think we are set up to mainly try and create chances via the wide areas, to the detriment of the centre.

Unfortunately, the player in the wide area responsible for creating something is usually the fullback, and teams therefore double up against us here so moves usually either go:

Defence -> midfield -> wide -> lose ball / move break down
Defence -> midfield -> wide -> midfield -> defence -> hoof / lose ball / move break down

I wish we carried more threat in the middle. How many chances do we create via through balls or one-twos? If teams feared our middle more, we'd also get more space out wide.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Comrade Blitz on July 17, 2017, 12:12:26 PM
Are we just going through the motions again.

Going through the motions in someone else's car
and I think we missed our turning back there

Is African Car Reverser driving?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on July 17, 2017, 01:55:12 PM
Thing is bree hasn't shown anything in the admittedly short exposure that he's had that he's any better than hutton. Hutton does try and get forward but just can't do it well enough.

I don't think Bree needs to have shown he can do better than Hutton. The question is can he be possibly worse than Hutton ?

I doubt it.

Bree put in a lovely cross the other night for Flabby to score. That itself is more than i've seen Hutton do with the ball in the final third forever.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: AV5nobs on July 17, 2017, 02:08:31 PM
Thing is bree hasn't shown anything in the admittedly short exposure that he's had that he's any better than hutton. Hutton does try and get forward but just can't do it well enough.

I don't think Bree needs to have shown he can do better than Hutton. The question is can he be possibly worse than Hutton ?

I doubt it.

Bree put in a lovely cross the other night for Flabby to score. That itself is more than i've seen Hutton do with the ball in the final third forever.

Agree with this, Huttons runs are all well and good and get an A for effort but are never productive, Bree had already shown albeit a friendly  cross that cries goal.

Also doesn't leave us exposed on that side too.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: paul_e on July 17, 2017, 02:51:41 PM
This is why I get so frustrated when people call Hutton one of our best players, as if running forward a lot and throwing in the odd leg breaker are all it needs to be a fans favourite.  He can't cross, can't shoot, loses the ball far more often than he should and regularly bursts forward without reading the game and gets himself caught in no mans land.

I have no issues with his fitness or his attitude, which both seem absolutely on point, it's just that pretty much everything else about his game is below average.  Bree will be a far better player than him in a year and we might as well commit to giving the youngster experience and ride out a few mistakes because Hutton doesn't give us an y great assurance either.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt Collins on July 17, 2017, 03:56:21 PM
Agree with both posts above
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on July 18, 2017, 08:31:47 AM
Does anyone know if we've sold out for Walsall tonight? Or can you pay on the night?

The ticket website has been no help whatsoever!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 18, 2017, 11:25:10 AM
I hope the club start promoting the SGT game heavily. Seems we're only planning on opening the lower tier of the Holte, North and Witton, and loads of tickets still available.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Clampy on July 18, 2017, 12:48:06 PM
I hope the club start promoting the SGT game heavily. Seems we're only planning on opening the lower tier of the Holte, North and Witton, and loads of tickets still available.

I didn't realise that. No wonder the online site wouldn't let me purchase my own seat, I thought it was a fault of some sort. Oh well, it will make a change sitting somewhere different I suppose.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt Collins on July 18, 2017, 12:51:01 PM
I still remember the damp squib that was McGrath's testimonial. Always disappointing if we can't get our act together to celebrate our heroes
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 18, 2017, 12:59:53 PM
I still remember the damp squib that was McGrath's testimonial. Always disappointing if we can't get our act together to celebrate our heroes

He'd only been here five years and he was hardly skint.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Ad@m on July 18, 2017, 01:22:01 PM
I still remember the damp squib that was McGrath's testimonial. Always disappointing if we can't get our act together to celebrate our heroes

He'd only been here five years and he was hardly skint.

Not sure how the five years thing is particularly relevant given SGT's total time as manager at Villa was less than that.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: in exile on July 18, 2017, 03:18:52 PM
Does anyone know if we've sold out for Walsall tonight? Or can you pay on the night?

The ticket website has been no help whatsoever!

I have seen somewhere this afternoon that we have sold out our allocation.
It may have been on the clubs Facebook page
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Scratchins on July 18, 2017, 03:34:48 PM
AVFC Support reporting on Twitter that our allocation for Walsall is now sold out.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 18, 2017, 05:06:20 PM
I still remember the damp squib that was McGrath's testimonial. Always disappointing if we can't get our act together to celebrate our heroes

He'd only been here five years and he was hardly skint.

Not sure how the five years thing is particularly relevant given SGT's total time as manager at Villa was less than that.

Sir Graham's game isn't a testimonial. Giving one to a player after five years is unheard of. That's how it's relevant.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Ad@m on July 18, 2017, 05:18:55 PM
I still remember the damp squib that was McGrath's testimonial. Always disappointing if we can't get our act together to celebrate our heroes

He'd only been here five years and he was hardly skint.

Not sure how the five years thing is particularly relevant given SGT's total time as manager at Villa was less than that.

Sir Graham's game isn't a testimonial. Giving one to a player after five years is unheard of. That's how it's relevant.

McGrath was no ordinary player so I don't think there's much of a precedent out there.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: glinch on July 18, 2017, 07:42:14 PM
I still remember the damp squib that was McGrath's testimonial. Always disappointing if we can't get our act together to celebrate our heroes

He'd only been here five years and he was hardly skint.

Not sure how the five years thing is particularly relevant given SGT's total time as manager at Villa was less than that.

Sir Graham's game isn't a testimonial. Giving one to a player after five years is unheard of. That's how it's relevant.

McGrath was no ordinary player so I don't think there's much of a precedent out there.

I was at that game i think, why was McGrath awarded a testimonial after 5 years?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 18, 2017, 07:49:54 PM
Walsall game is live here for anyone interested
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 18, 2017, 07:51:25 PM
Tonight’s team v Walsall: Johnstone, Bree, Samba, Terry ©, Taylor, Lansbury, Hourihane, Bjarnason, Amavi, Green, Agbonlahor.

Subs: Bunn, Chester, Hutton, Richards, Lyden, Veretout, Hogan, McCormack, Tshibola, Davis, Clark, Hayes.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on July 18, 2017, 07:52:04 PM
Andre Green is class he must start the first game.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on July 18, 2017, 07:53:18 PM
Terry is audible above anyone on the pitch.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 18, 2017, 07:54:12 PM
Terry playing the Hollywood ball!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PaulWinch again on July 18, 2017, 07:55:01 PM
Have we signed Samba?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: CT on July 18, 2017, 07:56:01 PM
It sounds deathly quiet!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 18, 2017, 07:57:07 PM
Tidy play
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on July 18, 2017, 07:58:07 PM
That was nearly a bit smelly from bree.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PaulWinch again on July 18, 2017, 07:58:09 PM
I like Bjarnasson, he makes intelligent runs and tries to find space.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: DB on July 18, 2017, 07:59:00 PM
Giving the ball away a lot. Very scrappy so far.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PaulWinch again on July 18, 2017, 08:01:45 PM
Think we're playing alright.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 18, 2017, 08:02:04 PM
I like Bjarnasson, he makes intelligent runs and tries to find space.

He gets into good spots also. He should have scored already tonight.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 18, 2017, 08:02:20 PM
What I like about Bjork is he gets into the box. We'll soon knock that out of him, we can't be doing with midfielders breaking forward and making runs into the box.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 18, 2017, 08:04:19 PM
Never take pre-season too seriously. Never play with a consistent line up so it's never going to produce consistent outcomes. What you want to see is something coming together in terms of structure, discipline and movement the closer we get to the start of the season.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 18, 2017, 08:04:34 PM
They should have scored there. Easy chance
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on July 18, 2017, 08:05:07 PM
We are very nearly the finished article.  All we need is elmohamady
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt Collins on July 18, 2017, 08:05:22 PM
I agree - it's a step up on the last match so far

Hourihane and Lansbury passing it a bit more smartly (though I don't think Lansbury can play this deep role against a good team he's not good enough defensively)

Thor has good movemet but often a sloppy first touch. Gabby the same without good movement. Still think this xi looks blunt. I'd have grealish for Thor, adomah for amavi and obviously Kodjia for gabby
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 18, 2017, 08:07:23 PM
That free kick made me pine for Westwood!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 18, 2017, 08:07:46 PM
Having Gabby lead the line just won't lead to many goals.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 18, 2017, 08:09:18 PM
Considering defence is meant to be our strong point, a shit division 3 side are creating a fair few chances.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: London Villan on July 18, 2017, 08:09:42 PM
Is this being filmed on an iphone3?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 18, 2017, 08:10:31 PM
Thor again. Great position. Finishing that would make The Great Tonev proud.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt Collins on July 18, 2017, 08:10:49 PM
Having Gabby lead the line just won't lead to many goals.

Nope

Nor much ball retention or penetration

We need to give up on him

Cut open there. Bree slack and Lansbury / hourihane not strong enough
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 18, 2017, 08:11:35 PM
Considering defence is meant to be our strong point, a shit division 3 side are creating a fair few chances.

We do seem to allow a lot of play through the middle of midfield. An age old Villa issue.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 18, 2017, 08:11:43 PM
Bjork again with a chance. He's like David Platt. Without the goals.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 18, 2017, 08:12:23 PM
And Bjork again with a chance.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Clark W Griswold on July 18, 2017, 08:13:24 PM
Thor again. Great position. Finishing that would make The Great Tonev proud.

He's no Andy Gray is he?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 18, 2017, 08:14:30 PM
Fuck me we're all over the place at the back. Are we playing Bayern?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PaulWinch again on July 18, 2017, 08:15:23 PM
He's coming back from a nasty injury give him a chance.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt Collins on July 18, 2017, 08:17:08 PM
Get hogan on - I reckon we'll make him some chances today

Would also prefer McCormack to Thor in the hole. He can run but he doesn't seem able to do much useful with the actual ball!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: tomd2103 on July 18, 2017, 08:19:19 PM
I agree - it's a step up on the last match so far

Hourihane and Lansbury passing it a bit more smartly (though I don't think Lansbury can play this deep role against a good team he's not good enough defensively)

Thor has good movemet but often a sloppy first touch. Gabby the same without good movement. Still think this xi looks blunt. I'd have grealish for Thor, adomah for amavi and obviously Kodjia for gabby

No watching it but from the line up guessing we are playing 3 in midfield.  How is it set up in there?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Exeter 77 on July 18, 2017, 08:19:59 PM
There was just a passage of play when we seemed determined to give it away just outside our own box.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 18, 2017, 08:20:48 PM
I'm pretty sure that for the past 7 or so years every single team we've played has looked more comfortable controlling and passing the ball than us.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 18, 2017, 08:21:25 PM
Get hogan on - I reckon we'll make him some chances today

Would also prefer McCormack to Thor in the hole. He can run but he doesn't seem able to do much useful with the actual ball!

Being able to run gives him a big advantage over McCormack though.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on July 18, 2017, 08:22:05 PM
Indeed and Walsall lost to Solihull Moors on Saturday.  They were bound to play better against inferior opposition.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 18, 2017, 08:22:36 PM
Terry goal but disallowed.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 18, 2017, 08:24:00 PM
Get hogan on - I reckon we'll make him some chances today

Would also prefer McCormack to Thor in the hole. He can run but he doesn't seem able to do much useful with the actual ball!

Being able to run gives him a big advantage over McCormack though.

I shouldn't laugh. Maybe someone should suggest this "running" thing to Ross and see what his reaction is.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Exeter 77 on July 18, 2017, 08:26:03 PM
This formation is missing a defensive midfielder - it's allowing Walsall to break quickly when the 3 central players have pushed forward.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on July 18, 2017, 08:27:42 PM
Samba looks half decent there I've said it.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: davidb on July 18, 2017, 08:28:15 PM
Gabby offers little and clearly Chester should start showed of samba. Green looks a real threat but they've clearly identified that and have doubled up on him
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: CT Villan on July 18, 2017, 08:28:30 PM
Green is playing well again, Bree is not having his best day defensively.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: SirSteveUK on July 18, 2017, 08:32:34 PM
Green has done f all
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 18, 2017, 08:33:40 PM
Green looks Grealish-esque in that he seems to get trapped with the ball. He's doesn't have a special move to get him out of tight spaces.

The encouraging thing is there have been chances. The disappointment is that none of them have been really served up to the main forward. That's of course partly down to Gabby but we are still lacking creativity to get into the box and just get shots away.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: jwarry on July 18, 2017, 08:33:58 PM
Gabby offers little and clearly Chester should start showed of samba. Green looks a real threat but they've clearly identified that and have doubled up on him

Disagree, thought Gabby did ok that half. Certainly more involved than Hogan ever is
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Clampy on July 18, 2017, 08:35:13 PM
This formation is missing a defensive midfielder - it's allowing Walsall to break quickly when the 3 central players have pushed forward.

Yeah, there's a big gaping hole where a holding midfielder should be to protect the back four. Overall, ok though. Terry and Bjarnnasson our best two I think.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt Collins on July 18, 2017, 08:36:10 PM
We're playing 433 or 4231 - Lansbury the deepest (decent on ball but weak defensively). Thor getting fwd most

Terry and samba comfy; full backs a bit exposed

Definitely sharper to the ball and better passing than the last game (but no more than reasonable and still sloppy)

Quite a few decent chances - mostly for Thor but also for gabby, samba and terry

Green the attacking pick.

Thor and gabby just give the ball away time and time and time again. I'll be worried if either feature much.

Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: CT Villan on July 18, 2017, 08:36:29 PM
Thank the Lord we have super-sub Micah to bring on and save the day...


...for Walsall :o
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Clark W Griswold on July 18, 2017, 08:37:13 PM
Samba does look ok but won't dislodge Chester, which is fine. Bjarnasson continues to shine. Like a black hole. Green creates nothing, sorry but he's like Adomah but less involved in the game. Was Lansbury on the pitch? Gabby is now laughably bad. Terry is class. The others neither here nor there.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Bad English on July 18, 2017, 08:37:43 PM
0-0. HT. What I expected.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 18, 2017, 08:38:22 PM
I'd completely forgotten Villa were playing.

Have we been any good?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: peter w on July 18, 2017, 08:38:22 PM
Green has done f all

I agree - same as the previous couple of games but I think that the idea is to get him to feel like he belongs. he's not going to be tearing defences apart just yet.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Clampy on July 18, 2017, 08:41:14 PM
Green has been playing on the opposite side to where he normally does in fairness.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt Collins on July 18, 2017, 08:44:16 PM
I think green has been good - just need to sharpen up his final ball
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: davidb on July 18, 2017, 08:44:57 PM
Gabby offers little and clearly Chester should start showed of samba. Green looks a real threat but they've clearly identified that and have doubled up on him

Disagree, thought Gabby did ok that half. Certainly more involved than Hogan ever is
he's been better than hogan but with jk we just don't look like scoring outside of set pieces
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Nelly on July 18, 2017, 08:48:06 PM
We still don't have enough creativity for me. We're happy run it into the corners and try and cross it. Which has been easy to deal with so far for Walsall.

I also thought they looked far more comfortable on the ball. Which is a worry.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: four fornicholl on July 18, 2017, 08:49:38 PM
AVFC. Confused?, I am.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt Collins on July 18, 2017, 08:51:45 PM
We look a lot better defensively than at this stage last season

Terry for elphick
Johnstone for Gollini
Samba for Richards

Much more confident

Taylor is no wing back though. He's a full back
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PaulWinch again on July 18, 2017, 08:57:57 PM
Think people need to give Thor a chance, his movement is great. His touch will come with games.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 18, 2017, 08:58:27 PM
Nearly 20K watching on youtube which is quite impressive.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: four fornicholl on July 18, 2017, 09:00:47 PM
Love him or loathe him, Id love to hear Terrys' assessment of the players around him. After all, he will know who is or isn't?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Mister E on July 18, 2017, 09:01:30 PM
The basics of passing, set pieces and movement seem to elude this squad. Outgunned by Shrewsbury; out passed by Walsall. So far.
It's a bit pathetic, really.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Exeter 77 on July 18, 2017, 09:02:50 PM
Our midfield lacks a bit of finesse. Lansbury had the chance to bring the ball down there but just succeed in hoofing cross-field.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Nelly on July 18, 2017, 09:02:53 PM
Their number ten, that's the sort of player I'd like us to get. Always involved, trying to make things happen.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: London Villan on July 18, 2017, 09:07:13 PM
The midfield positioning looks poor all the time. No link up play, no supporting runs.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: jwarry on July 18, 2017, 09:07:38 PM
Terry might just drag us though next season
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: CT Villan on July 18, 2017, 09:08:44 PM
Wow, Barcawalsall are making us look very poor.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: andyh on July 18, 2017, 09:09:50 PM
Their number ten, that's the sort of player I'd like us to get. Always involved, trying to make things happen.
I agree. I like the look of him as well.
However, in our team he'd be made to play a holding midfielder.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Nelly on July 18, 2017, 09:09:58 PM
I know it's a friendly, but sheesh. Villa looking so dull.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 18, 2017, 09:10:18 PM
We're hanging on for a point a bit here.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Leicester_Villian on July 18, 2017, 09:10:22 PM
Is it just me or does it look like playing in the dark .....
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: four fornicholl on July 18, 2017, 09:10:34 PM
Terry might just drag us though next season
I can see him doing a runner.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: jwarry on July 18, 2017, 09:10:46 PM
Taylor has been shit
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Nelly on July 18, 2017, 09:11:14 PM
Their number ten, that's the sort of player I'd like us to get. Always involved, trying to make things happen.
I agree. I like the look of him as well.
However, in our team he'd be made to play a holding midfielder.

Yeah, good point, well made.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Leicester_Villian on July 18, 2017, 09:11:28 PM
Just worked out why we are so crap .....Bucana is away on international duty !
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 18, 2017, 09:11:39 PM
Hogan on for Gabby, Chester for Terry and Hayes for Hotlips.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: jwarry on July 18, 2017, 09:12:08 PM
This is where Hogan proves us all wrong and gets a hat trick 😁
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: devilla on July 18, 2017, 09:13:00 PM
Their number ten, that's the sort of player I'd like us to get. Always involved, trying to make things happen.
I agree. I like the look of him as well.
However, in our team he'd be made to play a holding midfielder.

Me too, he just swatted Lansbury away very easily.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: UK Redsox on July 18, 2017, 09:13:00 PM
Who's this Hayes bloke?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: SoccerHQ on July 18, 2017, 09:13:03 PM
Only just got in and watched the last 10 minutes but we looked dreadful and Walsall outplaying us (they lost to Solihull at the weekend).

Can see why people are being negative, why are we starting Samba and Gabby?!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 18, 2017, 09:13:15 PM
Our balls into the box have been pretty shite.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on July 18, 2017, 09:14:08 PM
God help me, I think Terry & Samba look good.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 18, 2017, 09:15:10 PM
God help me, I think Terry & Samba look good.

They do, i'd be terrified if the opposition had any pace against those 2 though.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: devilla on July 18, 2017, 09:15:13 PM
I think Samba and Terry have looked a good partnership.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: dorsetvillian on July 18, 2017, 09:15:25 PM
Watching in Sweden while on holiday. Just like the game on Saturday Villa look truly awful. It's just so difficult to see what we are trying to do. The passing is terrible, movement none existent, no width, I could go on. Hopefully it will be different come the first real game, but I must admit to being very worried with what I'm seeing.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: UK Redsox on July 18, 2017, 09:15:30 PM
Only just got in and watched the last 10 minutes but we looked dreadful and Walsall outplaying us (they lost to Solihull at the weekend).

Can see why people are being negative, why are we starting Samba and Gabby?!


Team played quite well in the first half and created a few chances. Walsall the better team early in second half.

Loads of subs on now, so it'll probably be a bit of a mess for both sides

I'm still not as impressed by Green as some on here are.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: l_mckay on July 18, 2017, 09:15:53 PM
God we are terrible
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on July 18, 2017, 09:16:16 PM
God help me, I think Terry & Samba look good.

They do, i'd be terrified if the opposition had any pace against those 2 though.

Agreed. But still their awareness, intelligence & positioning is impressive.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: CT Villan on July 18, 2017, 09:17:06 PM
Our crossing has been Huttonesque all night
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 18, 2017, 09:18:13 PM
That we've struggled to open up a shit division 3 side, again, is a bit of a concern.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: UK Redsox on July 18, 2017, 09:18:26 PM
Who's the commentator? ....."it's getting darker and darker by the minute"

That's Woodward-esque  ::)
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Tayls_7 on July 18, 2017, 09:18:57 PM
Motm Hayes and he's been on 5 mins.  He needs re-educating.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Nelly on July 18, 2017, 09:19:32 PM
Green, Bree and Taylor haven't really created much. I know Lansbury and Hourihane were on the pitch at one point. Amavi has been a willing trier but we just have no cohesion in the opposition half.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 18, 2017, 09:19:58 PM
We really are a slow and boring side watch.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Nelly on July 18, 2017, 09:20:25 PM
Hoofing it long into the corners for Hogan. Lord help me.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Pete3206 on July 18, 2017, 09:20:45 PM
Not great is it?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: davidb on July 18, 2017, 09:22:26 PM
Is the camera man drunk
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: devilla on July 18, 2017, 09:23:28 PM
One man in the box for that cross, same old problems.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Nelly on July 18, 2017, 09:23:50 PM
Mccormack could play number ten for us really effectively.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on July 18, 2017, 09:23:57 PM
Can anybody (admittedly based on meaningless friendlies) advance an argument for us to finish top ten next season never mind top two?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: UK Redsox on July 18, 2017, 09:25:05 PM
Bree likes a bit of James Collins like lumping it
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 18, 2017, 09:25:31 PM
At least Ross is on to inject some much needed pace into the side.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: devilla on July 18, 2017, 09:26:15 PM
Can anybody (admittedly based on meaningless friendlies) advance an argument for us to finish top ten next season never mind top two?

I know I can't. I really can't see any difference in the slow ponderous, unimaginative dross that we've had for the last few seasons.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: jwarry on July 18, 2017, 09:26:30 PM
I keep hoping for the best but this doesn't bode well does it?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Mister E on July 18, 2017, 09:26:49 PM
Total absence of goal threat.
All pretty depressing.

Samba looked okay - with Chester behind him and Terry, a back three might just work.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on July 18, 2017, 09:27:38 PM
It's been that poor second half I've been counting the lorries going passed on the M6 whenever the camera is pointing at the away end.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: davidb on July 18, 2017, 09:27:54 PM
Can anybody (admittedly based on meaningless friendlies) advance an argument for us to finish top ten next season never mind top two?
denial and blind optimism?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 18, 2017, 09:28:12 PM
We really look like we don't have a clue how to create a decent chance never mind actually score a goal.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: CT Villan on July 18, 2017, 09:28:37 PM
This is absolute dross, I'm off to watch a wall of paint dry.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on July 18, 2017, 09:28:47 PM
Why would we be playing so negatively against Walsall? I mean we have a good central defence now. Well done Bruce. Now how about the rest of the pitch?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: UK Redsox on July 18, 2017, 09:30:09 PM
What's the point of bringing on a sub with two minutes to go in a pre-season game ?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: jwarry on July 18, 2017, 09:30:29 PM
Has Fat Ross touched the ball yet?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: l_mckay on July 18, 2017, 09:30:39 PM
Good substitutes,kill some time and try and hold on for the 0-0
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: four fornicholl on July 18, 2017, 09:32:06 PM
Noticed Johnstone is wearing 1, is that his squad number?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Nelly on July 18, 2017, 09:32:39 PM
I remember seeing a preseason friendly at the Banks, we won about 4-1 I think. Whittingham scored from miles out.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: UK Redsox on July 18, 2017, 09:32:57 PM
Another change? Bruce does know the game is about to end, doesn't he?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: davidb on July 18, 2017, 09:33:05 PM
90th minute change?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 18, 2017, 09:33:06 PM
So 2 games against mediocre 3rd division sides and we managed a grand total of 1 goal through a dodgy penalty. What a time to be alive.

We really do seem clueless apart from set pieces.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Pete3206 on July 18, 2017, 09:33:26 PM
Booooooo!!!!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: jwarry on July 18, 2017, 09:33:37 PM
Drivel
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: andyh on July 18, 2017, 09:34:05 PM
What a load of old shat !
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: UK Redsox on July 18, 2017, 09:34:25 PM
Noticed Johnstone is wearing 1, is that his squad number?

https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2017/07/14/johnstone-squad-number-confirmed
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 18, 2017, 09:34:44 PM
Well that was wank. I honestly can't see what we're trying to do, which is my big worry. Fucking Walsall pass the ball better than we do.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Concrete Tom on July 18, 2017, 09:34:57 PM
I feel sorry for Hogan. He gets absolutely no service.

It will never work if this continues.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: SoccerHQ on July 18, 2017, 09:35:15 PM
We are clueless without Kodjia's unpredictability and actual quality in the final third.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: AV5nobs on July 18, 2017, 09:36:02 PM
So 2 games against mediocre 3rd division sides and we managed a grand total of 1 goal through a dodgy penalty. What a time to be alive.

We really do seem clueless apart from set pieces.

We are a mediocre division 2 side. No shocks here.

I think we could break number of draws next season.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on July 18, 2017, 09:36:33 PM
We'll be fine when elmohamady arrives in the nick of time by the look of it.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Nelly on July 18, 2017, 09:37:14 PM
We need someone to create something from midfield. I don't know if it's the system we play or what, but at no point did we have any good linkup between strikers and midfield today. It was all down to wide players trying to cut across and ending up running the ball into dead ends or into Walsall players. Frustrating to watch.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: andyh on July 18, 2017, 09:37:46 PM
Don't worry, it's all about fitness, nothing else.
It's not about preparation for the new season, creating a style of play, trying new things and getting players to gel.

It about putting the miles in.

They may as well have run up and down the fucking Malvern Hills for all the benefit playing football does them.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Clark W Griswold on July 18, 2017, 09:38:03 PM
Same old problem, pedestrian going forward and not enough numbers up the pitch. As for individual performances, Agbonlahor an embarrassment, Bjarnasson and Green a disaster, Lansbury a park player, Hourahane all huff and puff with little quality, Amavi a wet fart, Taylor error strewn, Johnstone nothing to do. Thank god for Terry, Chester and Samba, we should be well covered at centre back. Baker to complete a really good quartet for this level.

Oh and Tshibola just come on to save the day, oh fucking joy.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 18, 2017, 09:39:40 PM
Genius by Bruce to bring on Tish at the death to waste a few seconds and clinch the point.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: The Edge on July 18, 2017, 09:41:31 PM
We're still playing hoof ball from the back. No obvious game plan and without Kodja we have no cutting edge. In fact I've seen pineapples with more cutting edge. I'm unimpressed, and worried in equal measure.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Three Spires Villa on July 18, 2017, 09:42:34 PM
Ha ha quality  :)
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on July 18, 2017, 09:43:42 PM
Genius by Bruce to bring on Tish at the death to waste a few seconds and clinch the point.

Good substitutes,kill some time and try and hold on for the 0-0

To be fair when you are playing against a top top level free flowing attacking side like Walsall you are lucky to come away with a point. Job done! I reckon we may stay up this season if we can put monumental performances like that in.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Clampy on July 18, 2017, 09:43:58 PM
It wasn't overly impressive, especially second half and we were poor up front. Samba would be a very good addition to the squad but the more I see of him, the more I think Lansbury is a weak link. I know he was playing deep tonight but I can't help thinking we'd be better off without him in the starting line up. A good work out though but room for improvement.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 18, 2017, 09:46:51 PM
Excited for the new season. Hope it starts in 6 months.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on July 18, 2017, 09:47:12 PM
That was really boring. We never seem to have any creativity in the middle, we just shove it out wide to Green or Amavi and say beat 3 players on your own. We could do with a creative player playing behind the strikers.

Samba played well again.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 18, 2017, 09:47:53 PM
Highlight of the game was not seeing Richards on the pitch.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt Collins on July 18, 2017, 09:48:05 PM
I was reasonably encouraged first half - we did create a few chances but lacked quality to take them

But we got worse as it went on. Green worsened. Taylor's delivery was terrible. We really looked like we had no idea how to break them down. Gabby was never a threat and is never a threat. Kodjia and adomah and grealish would add to that. But there must be kids we could loan from Chelsea or arsenal etc who've got more quality in the final third - e.g. In any of the three pairions behind the main striker



Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: The Edge on July 18, 2017, 09:49:40 PM
Genius by Bruce to bring on Tish at the death to waste a few seconds and clinch the point.
LOL 😂
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt Collins on July 18, 2017, 09:50:05 PM
We need someone to create something from midfield. I don't know if it's the system we play or what, but at no point did we have any good linkup between strikers and midfield today. It was all down to wide players trying to cut across and ending up running the ball into dead ends or into Walsall players. Frustrating to watch.

Agreed. Today it was partly that the central two were gabby and Thor who just lack quality

I'm hopeful that grealish and Kodjia would be more of a threat.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: devilla on July 18, 2017, 09:50:51 PM
That was really boring. We never seem to have any creativity in the middle, we just shove it out wide to Green or Amavi and say beat 3 players on your own. We could do with a creative player playing behind the strikers.

Samba played well again.

Creativity from midfield is what we've been desperately lacking for years. I thought Grealish might be the answer but he hasn't really stepped up to the plate.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Chinchilla Bathhouse on July 18, 2017, 09:52:01 PM
That reminded me of a game I used to like, football, where two teams passed a ball to their teammates and tried to kick it between some goalposts. It was a little bit like that, only much slower and the players just kicked the ball anywhere and didn't bother with the goalposts. Not very entertaining. I can't see it catching on.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: l_mckay on July 18, 2017, 09:54:09 PM
Very worrying that we are less than 3 weeks from the first game and we are not creating chances against average league 1 sides. Apart from Terry and samba not one player looked amy good. Be lucky to finish mid table at this rate.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: LukeJames on July 18, 2017, 09:54:55 PM
Just imagine what he could do with a pre-season behind him.......
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: JUAN PABLO on July 18, 2017, 09:55:16 PM
dull. wtf does he start with Gabby . We know what he can do , he scores feck all and creates nothing.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Hookeysmith on July 18, 2017, 09:59:43 PM
80th minute epitomizes  this shit Bruce side.
Tippy tappy boring crap ending in an aimless punt into the box. Hogan completely  on his own nowhere near the ball surrounded by 5 defenders.

I really cannot see how he has managed 4 promotion sides. He is as clueless as Sherwood, defensively minded as TSM and as nonsensical as Lambert.

We could be fucked here guys
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: MalcolmP on July 18, 2017, 10:01:29 PM
Same old same old. we need creativity and grealish is only player we have to do that. No good bringing him for odd game here and there he needs a run of games to get up to speed. His best performances were under Sherwood who played him regularly.  Bit like Lee Hendrie given few opportunities under little then John Gregory came in and he was first on team sheet. He was then our best player for a lot of games and created and scored quite a few. unfortunately Grealish is not a Brucie type of player
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 18, 2017, 10:01:39 PM
It feels a lot like last season never actually ended. That's the most depressing thing. There's no zip or energy.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Goldie.7 on July 18, 2017, 10:01:57 PM
It's looking like another season being heavily reliant on Kodjia scoring, which isn't good.

Not a clue what system we play but whatever that shite is we won't be scoring many goals.

Our balance and positional awareness going forward is the worst.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: andyh on July 18, 2017, 10:02:12 PM
80th minute epitomizes  this shit Bruce side.
Tippy tappy boring crap ending in an aimless punt into the box. Hogan completely  on his own nowhere near the ball surrounded by 5 defenders.

I really cannot see how he has managed 4 promotion sides. He is as clueless as Sherwood, defensively minded as TSM and as nonsensical as Lambert.

We could be fucked here guys

I agree, totally.
If we have to witness the tippy, tappy bollox across the back 4 like we did tonight, it's going to be a long, long fruitless season.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: olaftab on July 18, 2017, 10:06:53 PM
Noticed Johnstone is wearing 1, is that his squad number?

(http://thumb.ibb.co/fTUhpk/7616838.jpg) (http://ibb.co/fTUhpk)
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: paul_e on July 18, 2017, 10:09:44 PM
That was really boring. We never seem to have any creativity in the middle, we just shove it out wide to Green or Amavi and say beat 3 players on your own. We could do with a creative player playing behind the strikers.

Samba played well again.

I agree with the bit about Green adn Amavi and would say it's also worrying how none of our players go to support them either.  3-4 times Amavi had it on the left agianst 2-3 Walsall players and there wasn't a Villa player within 20 yards of him.  it means he either loses the ball or sneaks half a yard of space and has to try to pick out the one player we have in the box.  Bree got a bit closer to Green but there was still a huge gap inside them.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Risso on July 18, 2017, 10:16:13 PM
Usual Bruce 'inspired' dross. Should have tinned him last season.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: The Edge on July 18, 2017, 10:18:42 PM
Usual Bruce 'inspired' dross. Should have tinned him last season.
Did you mean binned or canned?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: olaftab on July 18, 2017, 10:19:24 PM
Binned as far as I am concerned.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: LukeJames on July 18, 2017, 10:24:01 PM
It looked like we were 'attempting' to use Lansbury in some deep Pirlo creative mode to spray balls around, naturally it didn't work. The only time we looked like scoring was from a couple of Hourihane corners in the first half, we created fuck all in open play but thats nothing new. Bjarnasson still looks lost. No optimism for the new season at all.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: AV5nobs on July 18, 2017, 10:25:55 PM
People need to seriously chill out, it was turgid enough but to suggest bringing on a DM player to check fitness and match practice instead of trying to win a truly awful warm up game is scraping the barrel.

Relax. In Brucey we trust.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: The Edge on July 18, 2017, 10:29:28 PM
Binned as far as I am concerned.
Joking aside I was all for giving Bruce a good crack at it this season but I'm starting to think it's beyond him. Team shape, team tactics, style of play, team selections. All things we were very poor at last season and I know it's only friendlies but I'm not seeing any improvement in any of these areas. If he's disguising some great masterplan to spring on our rivals once the season starts he'll go down as  a genius.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Villafirst on July 18, 2017, 10:31:37 PM
Where is RHM and Grealish? Only watched 25 minutes of that dross - watching paint dry is more entertaining! This stupid tactic of isolating the one attacking forward who is surrounded by 5 defenders!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Risso on July 18, 2017, 10:32:16 PM
Usual Bruce 'inspired' dross. Should have tinned him last season.
Did you mean binned or canned?

Tinned.  From 'tin tack' meaning sack.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt Collins on July 18, 2017, 10:42:06 PM
Binned as far as I am concerned.
Joking aside I was all for giving Bruce a good crack at it this season but I'm starting to think it's beyond him. Team shape, team tactics, style of play, team selections. All things we were very poor at last season and I know it's only friendlies but I'm not seeing any improvement in any of these areas. If he's disguising some great masterplan to spring on our rivals once the season starts he'll go down as  a genius.

I thought the shape was good first half - the problem was gabby and Thor. But second half we looked clueless
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: aj2k77 on July 18, 2017, 10:46:04 PM
Fucking Blues. What this side needs is another slow right back, that will really do the trick.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: SoccerHQ on July 18, 2017, 10:48:05 PM
Where is RHM and Grealish? Only watched 25 minutes of that dross - watching paint dry is more entertaining! This stupid tactic of isolating the one attacking forward who is surrounded by 5 defenders!

Yeah is Hepburn-Murphy injured or going to be loaned out shortly.

All this hype with him signing the new deal yet he's barely played for us. He made his debut in March 2015 so he really should be loaned out if he's not going to figure.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: paul_e on July 18, 2017, 10:49:34 PM
Usual Bruce 'inspired' dross. Should have tinned him last season.
Did you mean binned or canned?

I assume he's taken it for tin-tacked.

On topic I agree with Risso, I just can't see it working.  I get he's got promotions with other teams but it's been with backs to the wall underdog football where he's let teams get drawn forward and then caught them on the break or snuck one from a set piece.  That won't work with Villa because teams don't let us play the underdog, we're a massive scalp who flashed the cash last season and hoovered up some of the best players in the league.  I remember seeing a few times on here comments about us being everyone's cup final and whilst I don't agree entirely I do think we need to approach games knowing that teams want to give us a black eye.  For me Bruce just isn't the sort of manager you want managing a team like that.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on July 18, 2017, 10:56:27 PM
Attendance: 7,022 (3,310 Aston Villa supporters).

They don't fcukin deserve it.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt Collins on July 18, 2017, 11:02:18 PM
Is it possible to win the title as underdogs throughout? I guess Leicester sort of did. But im not sure this is true of hull - wouldn't the have been one of the favourites?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithe on July 18, 2017, 11:23:53 PM
Well we werent completely useless, more lacking in any kind of insperation going forward.

The positives, Terry and Samba were very solid with Terry looking after the ball very well, I thought Gabby did ok up there on his own with none of the midfielders seemingly in the same postcode as him. The full backs were ok in posession although both were caught out once each for a chance to Walsall. Johnstone was very commanding on crosses and looked very confident, thats a great move to get him back for the season.

The negatives. Well, everything in front of the defence really, Landsbury tried hard to make something happen but was far too deep and his fitness is a big worry, he looks trimmer but he still starts to make poor decisions, passes and tackles after half time. The other two midfielders were garbage, lightweight and ineffectual, Houlihan in particular needs to get some sweat on the shirt before swanning about thinking hes the bees knees, not at all impressed with him. The other kid is a trier. But shit, really shit.

The two wide lads tried but had games to forget, no one to hit crosses to and their touch looked ropey under any kind of pressure. Lyden looked to have good energy and aggression when he came on.

MOM, Terry or their no10 who looked exactly the kind of player we need, if he was a foot taller.


Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithe on July 18, 2017, 11:35:17 PM
PS who was no40 for us, came on as one of the first subs?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 18, 2017, 11:41:27 PM
PS who was no40 for us, came on as one of the first subs?

Hayes.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithe on July 18, 2017, 11:46:13 PM
Ta, never heard of him before. He probably is coming through at a bad time where he looks pretty similar to all the other midfielders we have, hope he does it.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 18, 2017, 11:56:00 PM
Lyden looked to have good energy and aggression when he came on.

Good report and great to hear, not that Bruce will notice. He'll probably buy 5 defensive midfielders as cover for Jedi this week.
Nice bloke that he is, he's no McLeish.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithe on July 18, 2017, 11:59:23 PM
Tishbola came on for the grand total of 4 seconds. I checked.

Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 19, 2017, 12:04:40 AM
Tishbola came on for the grand total of 4 seconds. I checked.

You're just trying to cheer me up, aren't you?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 19, 2017, 12:05:23 AM
Tishbola came on for the grand total of 4 seconds. I checked.

And won the Man of the Match award.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithe on July 19, 2017, 12:07:00 AM
McCormack came on and was immediately positioned wide left next to their fastest player. OK, Ill stop now......

It was a lovely balmy evening though.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 19, 2017, 12:11:35 AM
McCormack came on and was immediately positioned wide left next to their fastest player. OK, Ill stop now......

That's what I love about pre-season - the hope.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: eamonn on July 19, 2017, 12:42:40 AM
Seriously, only a friendly/players building-up fitness etc. caveats aside, can they not be doing that and also just occasionally look threatening in an attacking sense?
Why is it we outplayed Brighton for large parts of both games last season, the best team in the division (Brighton and Fulham played much better football than Newcastle imo), yet most of the time we don't have a bull's notion how to look imposing in the final third? By the law of averages you think we'd manage it more than twice a bleedin' year. 
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Nelly on July 19, 2017, 02:41:35 AM
That was really boring. We never seem to have any creativity in the middle, we just shove it out wide to Green or Amavi and say beat 3 players on your own. We could do with a creative player playing behind the strikers.

Samba played well again.

I agree with the bit about Green adn Amavi and would say it's also worrying how none of our players go to support them either.  3-4 times Amavi had it on the left agianst 2-3 Walsall players and there wasn't a Villa player within 20 yards of him.  it means he either loses the ball or sneaks half a yard of space and has to try to pick out the one player we have in the box.  Bree got a bit closer to Green but there was still a huge gap inside them.

This is why I don't get on Hutton's back. He is always trying to provide an outlet but no one ever, ever supports him. It must be a coaching issue, surely!? Hutton doesn't have the trick that Amavi or Green do either. We need a midfield that looks to provide an option for our players.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on July 19, 2017, 04:05:20 AM
Ok just rewatched the first half (which I did not see live). I think I was too harsh. Plenty of attacking intent and chances in the first half.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt Collins on July 19, 2017, 04:34:36 AM
Ok just rewatched the first half (which I did not see live). I think I was too harsh. Plenty of attacking intent and chances in the first half.

Yep, I still think we were decent but let down by poor finishing and a weak Thor-Gabby partnership
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: SoccerHQ on July 19, 2017, 07:52:16 AM
We are useless going forward without Kodjia would be my summary of how things stand and it really shouldn't be like that. Madness some people want to sell him, I'd rather take my chances with a 20 goal a season striker remaining at the club given how much money we've wasted on forwards down the years.

It's not just going to happen for McCormack here let's face it and Hogan looks to be going the same way although I still think there could be a role for him and he'll have a good scoring run at some point but I expect far more for 12m.

Way SB sets us up and the speculative balls we push forward we need an unpredictable and mobile striker upfront like JK to make things happen rather than players just waiting for crosses in the six yard box.

It's not good enough and could well cost him his job if Kodjia isn't fit by September.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on July 19, 2017, 08:05:02 AM
The commentators words in the 80th min. ("There's only Hogan in the middle...the ball has gone over his head.") sums up Bruce's attacking intent and demonstrates that the concept of attacking football is way over his head. We haven't moved on or learnt anything!! The set up last night was no different (only in personnel) than the 1st half vs Cardiff away last January. 5 across midfield with a lone striker and no Kodjia. It didn't work then as it didn't last night due to an ineffective front man and a disconnect between midfield and the striker. I know last night was only a friendly but with less than 3 weeks until the start of the season Bruce continues to show he's lacking in ideas regarding formation, tactics and team selection, especially without Kodjia in the team.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt Collins on July 19, 2017, 08:09:54 AM
Good post

I find it confusing we keep On buying strikers like McCormack and hogan with so little physical presence and who struggle to play right up top

I think hogan did play the 1 in a 451, but I'm curious how that worked. Brentford must have either played a lot of football on the break, or some very intricate midfield play that doesn't require you to 'hit' the striker

Or he's just not showing something that he did then

I think Bruce would quite like to play Kodjia left in the sort of formation we saw last night; but I just don't see who'd play up front - despite all of the money we've spent
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: brian green on July 19, 2017, 08:13:50 AM
I give Bruce eight games.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Legion on July 19, 2017, 08:19:37 AM
We are useless

Yes.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Boz on July 19, 2017, 09:14:58 AM
I give Bruce eight games.

As many as that Brian? If the remaining friendlies continue in this fashion, he'll be lucky to start the season. Dr X needs to start looking for a modern thinking manager now.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: JUAN PABLO on July 19, 2017, 09:33:57 AM
Ok just rewatched the first half (which I did not see live). I think I was too harsh. Plenty of attacking intent and chances in the first half.

Yep, I still think we were decent but let down by poor finishing and a weak Thor-Gabby partnership

Thor got in some great positioning to be fair but his finishing was like Del boys dressed in his Batman costume.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: JUAN PABLO on July 19, 2017, 09:35:17 AM
Id like to see Calderwood given the boot , get someone decent in.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt Collins on July 19, 2017, 09:38:09 AM
Calderwood and Bruce clearly have pedigree at this level

I've got a number of concerns ahead of the season. But if Tony sacks re manager or coach on the back of pre season we know that he's not a fit and proper chairman
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Jockey Randall on July 19, 2017, 09:47:31 AM
There still seems to be a worrying trend of players dragging each other down to a half arsed level.

We started well last night and were creating chances but if nothing goes in we just start going through the motions and everyone just gradually accepts it. Kodjia is probably the only one going forward who doesn't let his head drop and keeps trying things. You'd think with so many "captains" it would be a different story.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: RussellC on July 19, 2017, 10:20:10 AM
There were some positives;

Samba is undoubtedly an upgrade on both Richards and Elphick. Even against lower-league opposition that is clear.
Terry makes a notable difference, both defensively and when we're playing out form the back. Do we have another player (let alone centre-back) who can hit 40-yard cross-field balls with his weaker foot?
Bree & Green. Both had mixed performances, but if Bruce can show some faith in them now for a bit - and let them play through their tough patches - that could be Villa's right handside for the next 10+ years.

However;

Bjarnasson cannot begin the season in the starting XI. When Grealish is back in the fold, getting him up to speed - and form - has to be Bruce's priority. He offers so much more than BB. In that formation, McCormack, Bacuna, Hourihane and Green should all be ahead of him to start too. I'm not saying he won't be of any use this season, but he should definitely be considered as an option from the bench presently.
Lansbury and Hourihane. Both so inconsistent. Highlighted by their delivery from corners and free-kicks. When you've got Terry and Samba in the middle, there's absolutely no excuse for over/under-hitting deliveries as often as we did last night. I'm far from suggesting that we return to Westwood's floated deliveries, but at least he understood that just by ensuring the ball ended up in the box, it would give Benteke more than a fighting chance of beating his marker.
Tshibola - what on earth was Bruce doing bringing him on for less than 10 seconds at the end? He must have intended to piss him off or humiliate him surely?!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt Collins on July 19, 2017, 10:36:00 AM
There were some positives;

Samba is undoubtedly an upgrade on both Richards and Elphick. Even against lower-league opposition that is clear.
Terry makes a notable difference, both defensively and when we're playing out form the back. Do we have another player (let alone centre-back) who can hit 40-yard cross-field balls with his weaker foot?
Bree & Green. Both had mixed performances, but if price can show some faith in them now for a bit - and let them play through their tough patches - that could be Villa's right handside for the next 10+ years.

However;

Bjarnasson cannot begin the season in the starting XI. When Grealish is back in the fold, getting him up to speed - and form - has to be Bruce's priority. He offers so much more than BB. In that formation, McCormack, Bacuna, Hourihane and Green should all be ahead of him to start too. I'm not saying he won;t be of any use this season, but he should definitely be considered as an option form the bench presently.
Lansbury and Hourihane. Both so inconsistent. Highlighted by their delivery from corners and free-kicks. When you've got Terry and Samba in the middle, there's absolutely no excuse for over/under-hitting deliveries as often as we did last night. I'm far from
 suggesting that we return to Westwood's floated deliveries, but at least he understood that just by ensuring the ball ended up in the box, it would give Benteke more than a fighting chance of beating his marker.
Tshibola - what on earth was Bruce doing bringing him on for less than 10 seconds at the end? He must have intended to piss him off or humiliate him surely?!

Good post

Lansbury is frustratingly sloppy on the ball and hourihane seems to go missing a fair bit

Green wasn't as good as I initially thought, on reflection. And grealish has to come in if we play this formation

Gabby did one good turn and FA else
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: peter w on July 19, 2017, 10:58:11 AM
How old is Green? 18? 19? 20? It's too early to right him out every but as its too early to expect him to much more than he is now. I find him disappointing overall and not as good as we all hope he will be, but given time and experience and he can be useful.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: CT on July 19, 2017, 11:17:14 AM
I give Bruce eight games.

I'm going for around 12, same as RDM was given.

If we start this season as sluggishly as we've looked so far, he'll be finished by October.

A bit of energy, zip, some fast passing of the ball. Movement. Anything!!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on July 19, 2017, 11:21:06 AM
Was gabby's "one good turn" role playing the part of being a professional footballer? His performance was awful and served to demonstrate how much his stock has fallen from England international with 3 caps to struggling against league 1 opposition. Bruce persevering with gabby will continue to hold the club back!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 19, 2017, 11:27:25 AM
But if Tony sacks re manager or coach on the back of pre season we know that he's not a fit and proper chairman

Champions League winners hired and fired Luigi Delneri in the summer of 2004. He never managed a single league game. Pinto da Costa has been their President since 1982. Fit and proper? Maybe not but he knows a thing or two about football.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: old man villa fan on July 19, 2017, 11:32:17 AM
I only saw the 2nd half and I am glad to hear the 1st was a lot better because what I saw was terrible, even for a friendly. Why did Bruce have Green playing so deep. It meant he had a midfield player marking him and a fullback behind as cover. He should have been pushed further forward onto the fullback.

Same irritating aimless passing the ball around. It always looks as though the decisive ball will be the pass after or the one after that because it never looks as though it will come from the player with the ball.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on July 19, 2017, 12:33:41 PM


The only positives I could muster from last night were

Green first 45 minutes. He went absolutely shite second half
Johnstone looked fairly commanding coming to catch stuff
The defence looked untroubled largely
The young lad (Hayes?) looked quite decent
Lyden did ok

Other than that it was absolutely dead. Our midfield is hopeless, totally devoid of creativity and energy. Mind you, we've hardly spent anything on that area of the team compared to our forwards (which might explain why the service to them is zilch)
 
Look at our central midfield options

Gardner £0
Jedinak £3.8m
Hourihane £3m
Lansbury £3m
Tsihbola £3m?
Bjarnason £2m
Bacuna £1m

Put into context, the dogheads down the road have spent more than that on one midfielder this summer. He might turn out to be shit of course

But it's still a dreadfully dull set of players without a sprinkling of proper class on top to make them shine








Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: eamonn on July 19, 2017, 01:31:19 PM
Has Bruce given any post-match interviews after the friendlies? He usually tells it like it is, his one saving grace, but even he will start to get bored of his own voice if these plodding performances continue into the new season.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: ajmant on July 19, 2017, 01:54:25 PM
We go again....
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Ads on July 19, 2017, 01:59:25 PM
It took me 4 pages this morning to realize who we were playing.

Did Gabby and Thor start up top?

What was the score? I'm guessing 0-0?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: villabear on July 19, 2017, 05:24:46 PM
On Twitter people were saying the team got booed off last night. Is that correct?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Proposition Joe on July 19, 2017, 06:04:11 PM
I'd like us to play as narrow a formation as we possibly can for the next matches (Germany tournament?).  Leave all wide players at home.  Try and force the players to learn how to create things through the middle.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on July 19, 2017, 06:13:44 PM


I've some folks today saying 'sign Samba' based on last nights performance. For me he's just a towering but lumbering rock. The prospect of some of the Championships nippier strikers running rings around him does not fill me with confidence at all. Even as a back up. I'd much rather Sulliman got given a chance personally.

The only logical thing i could think for signing Samba would be if on 85 minutes we're hanging on the ropes defending a lead or similarly desperate for a goal and we launch it forwards with him in the box

Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: paul_e on July 19, 2017, 06:42:16 PM


I've some folks today saying 'sign Samba' based on last nights performance. For me he's just a towering but lumbering rock. The prospect of some of the Championships nippier strikers running rings around him does not fill me with confidence at all. Even as a back up. I'd much rather Sulliman got given a chance personally.

The only logical thing i could think for signing Samba would be if on 85 minutes we're hanging on the ropes defending a lead or similarly desperate for a goal and we launch it forwards with him in the box

If the plan was for him to start then I'd be nervous but as a replacement for Elphick in the 4th choice central defender spot I'm fine with it.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 19, 2017, 06:45:15 PM
And the advantage is no transfer fee and as clubs are hardly beating his door down to sign him I assume we'll get him on decent wages. If we can flog Mad Tom and use his wages to pay Samba i'd be fine with that. As Paul says, as 3rd/4th choice he looks like he'll be fine. What would worry me is a Terry/Samba partnership for an extended period of time as they have zero pace.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt Collins on July 19, 2017, 07:21:32 PM
And I don't think Sulliman is seen to be ready is he? 19 is VERY young for a centre half
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: paul_e on July 19, 2017, 08:34:16 PM
And I don't think Sulliman is seen to be ready is he? 19 is VERY young for a centre half

I agree, I really like Suliman and I hope he gets a look in a few times this year but that's about as much as you'd expect for now.  I have him shadowing Terry in training for a year, that's the biggest positive of Terry coming that I can see, if he can have a positive impact like that then we may benefit over the next few years.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: in exile on July 20, 2017, 04:23:30 PM
On Twitter people were saying the team got booed off last night. Is that correct?

I wouldn't exactly say "booed off" but there was booing at the final whistle
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: LeeB on July 20, 2017, 04:49:36 PM
On Twitter people were saying the team got booed off last night. Is that correct?

I wouldn't exactly say "booed off" but there was booing at the final whistle

That's just the sound of the local accent en masse.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on July 20, 2017, 07:22:28 PM


I've only just got over Lansbury's set pieces. Especially the one corner that nearly hit the other one
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: peter w on July 20, 2017, 08:31:29 PM
On Twitter people were saying the team got booed off last night. Is that correct?

I wouldn't exactly say "booed off" but there was booing at the final whistle

That's just the sound of the local accent en masse.

Maybe there was a To Kill A Mockingbird Convention nearby.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: LukeJames on July 20, 2017, 08:33:39 PM


I've only just got over Lansbury's set pieces. Especially the one corner that nearly hit the other one

Yeah Lansburys deliveries were over hit pretty much all evening. Hourihane put in a couple of good whipped corners in the first half.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on July 20, 2017, 08:46:16 PM
I wish Ross McCormack was put back on them. I have no idea how but he consistently puts excellent corners in when he is given the chance.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Hookeysmith on July 21, 2017, 11:00:50 AM
The Mail is reporting that one of the German games is off but I cannot see anything anywhere else?

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/aston-villa-pre-season-game-13363820

Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Dominic22 on July 21, 2017, 12:58:24 PM
Truly madness. It is on the Vitesse Arnhem site that it is cancelled. I have just come from the ticket office and they had no idea until the manager checked and said "oh yes it is"... irrespective of if another is being organised an announcement would be nice.

For those of us travelling with hotels booked return flights etc.  lots have gone out this morning and the only idea we have is from the team we are playing. They really need to get there crap sorted or at least let us know there is an issue 
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Virgil Caine on July 21, 2017, 01:22:05 PM
Seems to be a trend in Germany- A (decent) Leeds fan traveled out with about 80 other Leeds fans to find out on the day that one of the tour matches had been cancelled. No message from Leeds Utd via social media just an assumption that if you could afford to travel out there the match been subsequently cancelled would be a minor inconvenience to be dealt with.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: wittonwarrior on July 21, 2017, 01:24:18 PM
Truly madness. It is on the Vitesse Arnhem site that it is cancelled. I have just come from the ticket office and they had no idea until the manager checked and said "oh yes it is"... irrespective of if another is being organised an announcement would be nice.

For those of us travelling with hotels booked return flights etc.  lots have gone out this morning and the only idea we have is from the team we are playing. They really need to get there crap sorted or at least let us know there is an issue

Luckily due to work I am only going sat to Monday but surely villa would or should have known about the issue of two non German teams not allowed to play each other
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Clampy on July 21, 2017, 01:26:03 PM
Truly madness. It is on the Vitesse Arnhem site that it is cancelled. I have just come from the ticket office and they had no idea until the manager checked and said "oh yes it is"... irrespective of if another is being organised an announcement would be nice.

For those of us travelling with hotels booked return flights etc.  lots have gone out this morning and the only idea we have is from the team we are playing. They really need to get there crap sorted or at least let us know there is an issue

Luckily due to work I am only going sat to Monday but surely villa would or should have known about the issue of two non German teams not allowed to play each other

Maybe, but presumably the Dutch side didn't have any idea either.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Dominic22 on July 21, 2017, 01:36:06 PM
Truly madness. It is on the Vitesse Arnhem site that it is cancelled. I have just come from the ticket office and they had no idea until the manager checked and said "oh yes it is"... irrespective of if another is being organised an announcement would be nice.

For those of us travelling with hotels booked return flights etc.  lots have gone out this morning and the only idea we have is from the team we are playing. They really need to get there crap sorted or at least let us know there is an issue

Luckily due to work I am only going sat to Monday but surely villa would or should have known about the issue of two non German teams not allowed to play each other

Maybe, but presumably the Dutch side didn't have any idea either.

I agree, but we still no announcement and up until about an hour ago the ticket office had no idea either.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Chris Jameson on July 21, 2017, 01:54:37 PM
As somebody who works in a box office it doesn't surprise me that those on the front line were last to know about any cancellation.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: frank on July 21, 2017, 02:25:04 PM
This is all very unprofessional. The venue of the original game wasn't announced until very late in the day, and it was a small stadium in a town, Erkenschwick, that's difficult to get to by public transport. I thought at the time that Villa didn't seem to realise that some of their fans were staying on in Germany and taking time off work in order to watch their team. And now this - a late switch to Gütersloh (I believe), with Bielefeld as the opponents. The cheapest return rail fare from Düsseldorf to Gütersloh is €60 for the saver, or €72 normal rate. Again, the convenience of the fans seems to have been given a very low priority, this includes our German supporters who were hoping to get to the Tuesday game.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt Collins on July 21, 2017, 06:42:41 PM
What a fiasco

Really bad form
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: BC54 VFC on July 21, 2017, 07:02:49 PM
The Mail is reporting that one of the German games is off but I cannot see anything anywhere else?

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/aston-villa-pre-season-game-13363820


Good job the Vitesse Arnhem game is off; we're playing Bristol City on 25th August!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Herman on July 21, 2017, 07:12:28 PM
A bit of a balls up for those that had already booked travel and accomodation but I originally thought it was an odd choice of venue.  Luckily, Gütersloh is only 50km down the road from me so its all worked out swimmingly!

To anyone who has already planned the trip, Gütersloh isn't too far from Recklinghausen via train and will take just under 2 hours with one change.

https://www.bahn.com/en/view/index.shtml


Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on July 21, 2017, 08:24:40 PM
I've just checked with my buddies in Holland - a PSV fan and a Feyenoord fan (who lives near Arnhem) - they have looked on the Vitesse website and apparently the Germans have literally moved the goalposts and will not permit two "foreign clubs to play a fixture on German soil
All a bit bizarre - so does that mean they will not be hosting any major championships or Euro finals in the future?
Whatever next? .....invading Poland (only joking).
Is this how Brexit will look over the coming months?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: frank on July 21, 2017, 08:26:31 PM
Villa arrive at the training camp near Dortmund

(http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa87/frpattison/Villa%20Dortmund.jpg)
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on July 21, 2017, 08:43:17 PM
Hi Frank, are you over there at the minute?
i.e. did you take the photo?
Am I getting older or are Villa players getting younger? (John Terry aside)
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: wittonwarrior on July 21, 2017, 09:00:45 PM
Supposed to be  getting some shut eyes before catching my cab to the station for the 3.30am train to Ringway (manc airport)
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: frank on July 21, 2017, 09:08:01 PM
Hi Frank, are you over there at the minute?
i.e. did you take the photo?
Am I getting older or are Villa players getting younger? (John Terry aside)
Flying London City to Düsseldorf tomorrow and looking forward to meetings as enjoyable as those in Bremen. The photo was forwarded by one of the German Villans - Villa are training and staying at his sports club.
I don't think all the Villa players are getting younger if you consider this week's signings.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt Collins on July 21, 2017, 09:35:53 PM
Gary Gardner hasn't travelled

If we're taking the squad down to 20 he's on the way out presumably
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: TheMalandro on July 22, 2017, 07:19:53 AM
Supposed to be  getting some shut eyes before catching my cab to the station for the 3.30am train to Ringway (manc airport)

Okay Hun, keep safe x
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt Collins on July 22, 2017, 01:04:45 PM
I see McKirdy has travelles whereas McCormack and Tish haven't

Which I think means none of the players we signed before last season started are now in SB plans? I make that over £20m wasted on Gollini, Elphick, Tish, McCormack. I reckon we'd do well to get anywhere near £10m back for that lot
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Clampy on July 22, 2017, 01:07:20 PM
Not really surprised about Tshibola not travelling but I am with McCormack unless he's injured.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Hookeysmith on July 22, 2017, 01:24:36 PM
Have Elmo, Whelan , Samba travelled?

Can I have a quick reminder of game dates and times please .
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: ChicagoLion on July 22, 2017, 01:25:23 PM
Not really surprised about Tshibola not travelling but I am with McCormack unless he's injured.
Gate problems?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: eamonn on July 22, 2017, 02:34:07 PM
Can someone post the full squad that has travelled? Can't find it on the OS. Be interesting to see who else has been left behind.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Legion on July 22, 2017, 02:41:33 PM
Not really surprised about Tshibola not travelling but I am with McCormack unless he's injured.

Stuck in his house.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Damo70 on July 22, 2017, 02:51:08 PM
Hi Frank, are you over there at the minute?
i.e. did you take the photo?
Am I getting older or are Villa players getting younger? (John Terry aside)

I'm glad it isn't just me. I thought that was the Villa youth team until I spotted John Terry!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on July 22, 2017, 04:11:07 PM
Am I getting older or are Villa players getting younger? (John Terry aside)

I thought the same. They look like 5th years going on a school trip.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on July 22, 2017, 08:44:30 PM
Am I getting older or are Villa players getting younger? (John Terry aside)

I thought the same. They look like 5th years going on a school trip.

As we get older the players now do look start to look like schoolkids. But why do the pictures of players from the 60s/70s still look like men ?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: tomd2103 on July 23, 2017, 12:30:23 AM
Not really surprised about Tshibola not travelling but I am with McCormack unless he's injured.

There really must be some kind of issue with Tshibola.  I find it surprising as Steve Clarke worked with him at Reading and he would have been signed on his recommendation.  If it is an attitude problem as opposed to an ability one, then I struggle to see why Clarke would have recommended him.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: eamonn on July 23, 2017, 12:54:47 AM
He prays to God, he must be a good lad.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Goldie.7 on July 23, 2017, 08:28:16 AM
Aston Villa v MSV Duisburg 12pm – 45min game
Hertha Berlin v Malaga 1pm – 45min game
3rd v 4th place play-off 2pm – 45min game
Final 3pm – 45min game



I know it's only pre-season but I'm kind of excited about potentially being in a final at 3pm today.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: four fornicholl on July 23, 2017, 08:35:16 AM
Aston Villa v MSV Duisburg 12pm – 45min game
Hertha Berlin v Malaga 1pm – 45min game
3rd v 4th place play-off 2pm – 45min game
Final 3pm – 45min game



I know it's only pre-season but I'm kind of excited about potentially being in a final at 3pm today.
A lovely sunny day in the Lakes, Villa on telly, I'm excited too.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: itmustbe_it is! on July 23, 2017, 12:03:38 PM
Come on Villa !!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: jwarry on July 23, 2017, 12:04:34 PM
Bit of a lively start, almost scored there
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt Collins on July 23, 2017, 12:06:45 PM
Where's the commentary?

We have started well though these were third tier last season

Whose the tiny no 29 for us?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: jwarry on July 23, 2017, 12:12:58 PM
Great save by Steer there, think it's Steer?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt Collins on July 23, 2017, 12:13:54 PM
I think It's Johnstone?

They look quite nifty in attack but less good at the back
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: jwarry on July 23, 2017, 12:14:13 PM
Elmo surprisingly good in the air
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: The Edge on July 23, 2017, 12:14:23 PM
Great save by Steer there, think it's Steer?
Yeah steer in goals
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: The Edge on July 23, 2017, 12:15:25 PM
It's Johnstone

They look quite nifty in attack but less good at the back
Birmingham mail names steer?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: godzvilla on July 23, 2017, 12:15:30 PM
Aston Villa v MSV Duisburg 12pm – 45min game
Hertha Berlin v Malaga 1pm – 45min game
3rd v 4th place play-off 2pm – 45min game
Final 3pm – 45min game



I know it's only pre-season but I'm kind of excited about potentially being in a final at 3pm today.
A lovely sunny day in the Lakes, Villa on telly, I'm excited too.

Not available in Spain, any suggestions, please?.......Godzvilla!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt Collins on July 23, 2017, 12:15:46 PM
They're troubling us down our left
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: The Edge on July 23, 2017, 12:16:39 PM
Aston Villa v MSV Duisburg 12pm – 45min game
Hertha Berlin v Malaga 1pm – 45min game
3rd v 4th place play-off 2pm – 45min game
Final 3pm – 45min game



I know it's only pre-season but I'm kind of excited about potentially being in a final at 3pm today.
A lovely sunny day in the Lakes, Villa on telly, I'm excited too.

Not available in Spain, any suggestions, please?.......Godzvilla!
There's a link on the Birmingham mail website
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt Collins on July 23, 2017, 12:18:04 PM
I stand corrected it is steer

Could do with a confidence boosting win here - playing three kids in midfield is a bit risky in that respect
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: itmustbe_it is! on July 23, 2017, 12:18:46 PM
Where's the commentary?

We have started well though these were third tier last season

Whose the tiny no 29 for us?

Is it McKirdy ??
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 23, 2017, 12:20:17 PM
Good to see travel and team bonding hasn't improved our effectiveness on the pitch. Relatively speaking Duisburg are playing champagne football at times, were drinking wine from a box.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt Collins on July 23, 2017, 12:22:27 PM
Hands up who's realising they started to get a bit over excited about Andre green?

👍
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 23, 2017, 12:23:02 PM
Hands up who's realising they started to get a bit over excited about Andre green?

👍

Goal thing from Andre
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt Collins on July 23, 2017, 12:23:11 PM
Kiss of death!

Bloody shocking defending tho!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: jwarry on July 23, 2017, 12:23:27 PM
Where's the commentary?

We have started well though these were third tier last season

Whose the tiny no 29 for us?

Is it McKirdy ??

O'Hare I reckon
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Goldie.7 on July 23, 2017, 12:23:34 PM
Get in... good goal.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: itmustbe_it is! on July 23, 2017, 12:23:47 PM
Where's the commentary?

We have started well though these were third tier last season

Whose the tiny no 29 for us?

Is it McKirdy ??

No....O'Hare
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt Collins on July 23, 2017, 12:23:51 PM
Good play by Callum "Bucky" O'Hare
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Meanwood Villa on July 23, 2017, 12:24:05 PM
Gooooooooooooolll

Good work by the no 29
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Axl Rose on July 23, 2017, 12:25:24 PM
Good play by Callum "Bucky" O'Hare

Yes, he's a nice player isn't he. Tenacious and skilful.

Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Meanwood Villa on July 23, 2017, 12:25:44 PM
Who I now see has been identified as O'Hare. Elmo did well in the build-up as well.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt Collins on July 23, 2017, 12:26:23 PM
Hutton' crossing 🙄🙄
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Axl Rose on July 23, 2017, 12:26:35 PM
Good to see travel and team bonding hasn't improved our effectiveness on the pitch. Relatively speaking Duisburg are playing champagne football at times, were drinking wine from a box.

Haha. I like that.

Wine from a box, outside a corner shop. In Corby.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: jwarry on July 23, 2017, 12:26:46 PM
Fuck me!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 23, 2017, 12:26:53 PM
Cracking goal from Hogan
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Goldie.7 on July 23, 2017, 12:26:54 PM
What a cracker 0-2
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Tuscans on July 23, 2017, 12:27:00 PM
Yes Scotty, get in....
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Meanwood Villa on July 23, 2017, 12:27:15 PM
Goopoooooolllll

Hogan from Elmo cross
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt Collins on July 23, 2017, 12:27:17 PM
Now that was a good goal

I'm liking the look of that Elmo to Hogan combo
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 23, 2017, 12:27:24 PM
Elmo so far has looked very good. Great cross
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: jwarry on July 23, 2017, 12:27:38 PM
Elmo is what Hogans been missing
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Axl Rose on July 23, 2017, 12:27:39 PM
Hogan has looked sharp, and a lot quicker than he looked last year. Good on him.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: itmustbe_it is! on July 23, 2017, 12:27:45 PM
What we've said for ages - Hogan needs byline crosses
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: godzvilla on July 23, 2017, 12:28:50 PM
Aston Villa v MSV Duisburg 12pm – 45min game
Hertha Berlin v Malaga 1pm – 45min game
3rd v 4th place play-off 2pm – 45min game
Final 3pm – 45min game



I know it's only pre-season but I'm kind of excited about potentially being in a final at 3pm today.
A lovely sunny day in the Lakes, Villa on telly, I'm excited too.

Not available in Spain, any suggestions, please?.......Godzvilla!
There's a link on the Birmingham mail website

Thanks for that, it's  what I tried but , as I said, unavailable in Spain and some other countries...Godzvilla!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt Collins on July 23, 2017, 12:30:02 PM
Doyle-Hayes looks quite good doesn't he?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Tuscans on July 23, 2017, 12:30:03 PM
I would lose my marbles playing with Hutton.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 23, 2017, 12:30:14 PM
Who's our 17? Kid has been all over the place
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt Collins on July 23, 2017, 12:31:37 PM
I would lose my marbles playing with Hutton.

Your marbles would either be with the defender at the near post or have floated over your head for a throw in
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Dazvillain on July 23, 2017, 12:32:28 PM
Elmo hogan nearly came off again....great attacking pace . Do we think it'll be totally different team in final ?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Goldie.7 on July 23, 2017, 12:32:35 PM
No surprises at Mutton being the weak link going forward.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 23, 2017, 12:33:27 PM
Elmo hogan nearly came off again....great attacking pace . Do we think it'll be totally different team in final ?

It was suggested two different line ups
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: mrfuse on July 23, 2017, 12:33:44 PM
Despite my lack of excitement with the Elmohamady signing, hes providing a good source from the right hand side.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 23, 2017, 12:35:19 PM
No surprises at Mutton being the weak link going forward.

He is a clumsy footballer. Whatever one good thing he does is spoiled by several other incidents of uselessness.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt Collins on July 23, 2017, 12:37:34 PM
No surprises at Mutton being the weak link going forward.

He is a clumsy footballer. Whatever one good thing he does is spoiled by several other incidents of uselessness.

I genuinely think his crossing accuracy must be something like 3%
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 23, 2017, 12:38:00 PM
Typical Hutton right there. Good run, shit touch, gives it away
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Tuscans on July 23, 2017, 12:38:21 PM
Few, he can score then...
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 23, 2017, 12:38:25 PM
3-0 Excellent by Hogan again
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: jwarry on July 23, 2017, 12:38:36 PM
Scotty is on fire!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Meanwood Villa on July 23, 2017, 12:38:42 PM
Great goal Hogan
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Tuscans on July 23, 2017, 12:39:21 PM
I would lose my marbles playing with Hutton.

Your marbles would either be with the defender at the near post or have floated over your head for a throw in
Floated over the head for a throw in every time...
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Goldie.7 on July 23, 2017, 12:40:09 PM
Hogan isn't fucking around today, two class goals.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt Collins on July 23, 2017, 12:40:12 PM
This is more like it

I mean their defence is shit - but still

Hogan making lots of great runs. Elmo looking great. Terry's quick passing out of defence is a real asset. Do like the look of Doyle-Hayes or whatever his name is

Ich sehr mochte
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Colhint on July 23, 2017, 12:40:35 PM
what time is our next match
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Dazvillain on July 23, 2017, 12:41:16 PM
what time is our next match
Final at 3
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: UK Redsox on July 23, 2017, 12:42:19 PM
Where's the commentary?

We have started well though these were third tier last season

Whose the tiny no 29 for us?

Is it McKirdy ??

No....O'Hare


Looks like he's not just an ORDinary player
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: LukeJames on July 23, 2017, 12:42:55 PM
Whos the Grealish lookalike? (29) He's picking up some good positions and is constantly on the move.......

edit- Just seen the above posts.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Colhint on July 23, 2017, 12:43:11 PM
what time is our next match
Final at 3

ta
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Tuscans on July 23, 2017, 12:44:06 PM
Who's No.29 again?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt Collins on July 23, 2017, 12:44:22 PM
The only players not doing great are Hutton (Hutton) green (wrong choices) and hourihane (ropey touches)
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: eamonn on July 23, 2017, 12:44:24 PM
Being a Villan is exciting at last!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Dazvillain on July 23, 2017, 12:44:59 PM
Doyle-Hayes looks quite good doesn't he?

Yes if this is his first start he's very very impressive
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: UK Redsox on July 23, 2017, 12:45:42 PM
Steer, Hutton, Chester, Terry, Taylor, Elmohamady, Doyle-Hayes, Hourihane, Green, O’Hare, Hogan.

yep, Doyle-Hayes. That's a new name to me
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 23, 2017, 12:46:39 PM
Where's the commentary?

We have started well though these were third tier last season

Whose the tiny no 29 for us?

Is it McKirdy ??

No....O'Hare


Looks like he's not just an ORDinary player

YYZ understands and approves
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Tuscans on July 23, 2017, 12:46:51 PM
Looks promising does the young Doyles, just stay away from the Gabby and Micah crew.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: UK Redsox on July 23, 2017, 12:47:00 PM
Who's No.29 again?

ORD
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 23, 2017, 12:48:00 PM
Doyle-Hayes MOM
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: passitsideways on July 23, 2017, 12:49:35 PM
Can't wait to add the SGT trophy to this one next week
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: UK Redsox on July 23, 2017, 12:49:36 PM
Where's the commentary?

We have started well though these were third tier last season

Whose the tiny no 29 for us?

Is it McKirdy ??

No....O'Hare


Looks like he's not just an ORDinary player

YYZ understands and approves

Still think that someone should have done a spoof of the Rachel Stevens song.... Sweet Dreams My BHX
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: devilla on July 23, 2017, 12:50:01 PM
Impressed with that. Hogan looks really sharp, Elmo made a huge difference down the right and the youngsters looked good too. Well played.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: The Edge on July 23, 2017, 12:51:14 PM
Doyle-Hayes MOM
Agree. He looks the part.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: UK Redsox on July 23, 2017, 12:52:08 PM
Never understood how Lester B. Pearson International Airport ended up with the code YYZ

Any ideas TV?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 23, 2017, 12:59:00 PM
Never understood how Lester B. Pearson International Airport ended up with the code YYZ

Any ideas TV?

There's actually no proper reason for it. All Canadian airports start with Y. The logical thing when codes were created would have been to call it YTO, but TO is specifically referenced to things in the city of Toronto. Pearson airport is in Mississauga, a suburb of Greater Toronto. It could have been YTZ, but the small downtown airport already had that, so it got YYZ instead.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 23, 2017, 01:01:10 PM
The next game will be much tougher. Both Hertha and Malaga play in the top divisions in Germany and Spain respectively.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Ad@m on July 23, 2017, 01:06:38 PM
This is more like it

I mean their defence is shit - but still

Shit doesn't do their defence justice.  The amount of space Hogan had for his first and the way that defender ended up the wrong side of Hogan for his second were efforts I'd have been embarrassed by when I used to trundle around a local field on a Sunday morning.

But at least Hogan's putting them away.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt Collins on July 23, 2017, 01:07:57 PM
Yep - 3pm right? If i were Malaga or Hertha I'd probably put my stronger team out for the first match though

I imagine we'll see quite a few different faces for us too

Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 23, 2017, 01:11:24 PM
I'll go for

Johnstone, Bree, Amavi, Samba, Baker, Whelan, Lansbury, Grealish, Thor, Adomah, Gabby
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Goldie.7 on July 23, 2017, 01:14:12 PM
The next game will be much tougher. Both Hertha and Malaga play in the top divisions in Germany and Spain respectively.

Even though Malaga are looking the strongest right now, I'm seeing a Hertha vs Us final.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: four fornicholl on July 23, 2017, 01:20:08 PM
Penalties?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt Collins on July 23, 2017, 01:22:13 PM
Malaga could have had five by now

Just the one though

Will be a tough test
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on July 23, 2017, 01:24:46 PM
Such a shame that the Walsall friendly lasted 90 minutes and the Duisburg one lasted 45.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: SirSteveUK on July 23, 2017, 01:33:44 PM
Harry McKirdy plays and looks like Jack's younger skinny brother  :)
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Proposition Joe on July 23, 2017, 01:47:32 PM
Malaga could have had five by now

Just the one though

Will be a tough test

Hertha going through by the look of it, thanks to someone who must be Robbie Savage's German equivalent.  What a cheating twat.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Dazvillain on July 23, 2017, 01:48:27 PM
I'll go for

Johnstone, Bree, Amavi, Samba, Baker, Whelan, Lansbury, Grealish, Thor, Adomah, Gabby
Agree but isn't Albert injured ? Maybe another untried youngster such as Keinan Davis or Hepburn Murphy ?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Goldie.7 on July 23, 2017, 01:48:32 PM
No:23 for Hertha is a loose cannon. If they go through we need to not rise to his dirty tricks.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PaulWinch again on July 23, 2017, 01:48:59 PM
Good to hear Elmo and Scotty did well.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Edvard Remberg on July 23, 2017, 01:49:27 PM
Malaga could have had five by now

Just the one though

Will be a tough test

Hertha going through by the look of it, thanks to someone who must be Robbie Savage's German equivalent.  What a cheating twat.
That was a cheating bastard.

Then a chant "you've only come to see the Villa "
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Hillbilly on July 23, 2017, 01:51:50 PM
Why was the game refereed by priests?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Goldie.7 on July 23, 2017, 01:54:01 PM
Both teams obviously didn't get the "friendly" memo.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: SirSteveUK on July 23, 2017, 01:56:29 PM
I'd like to see Keinan get a game - the little I've seen of him looks quite good. He is the only s orthodox CF we have.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: SirSteveUK on July 23, 2017, 02:01:47 PM
Off topic - but Shrewsbury just beat Wolves 2-0
*runs to bookies to lump on them for promotion at 33/1*
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on July 23, 2017, 02:04:12 PM
Was hoping that Hertha would go through. Already seen us play Malaga before.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: eamonn on July 23, 2017, 02:50:11 PM
Harry McKirdy plays and looks like Jack's younger skinny brother  :)

You calling Jack fat? I'll tell Frosty on ya! #GrealishFrDamo
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Axl Rose on July 23, 2017, 03:02:21 PM
Captain Agbonlahor. Tut
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 23, 2017, 03:04:48 PM
Tony Daley down the wing like a torpedo, he puts the ball up in the airrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: jwarry on July 23, 2017, 03:07:44 PM
Super Samba
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Edvard Remberg on July 23, 2017, 03:07:49 PM
Good tackle Damba
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 23, 2017, 03:08:30 PM
Good work by Gabby closing down the keeper, and good tackle by Samba.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 23, 2017, 03:08:48 PM
Ha! They just described Bruce as Aston Villa's Coach. How little they know.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: UK Redsox on July 23, 2017, 03:09:04 PM
Steer, Bree, Richards, Samba, Amavi, Bjarnason, Whelan, Lansbury, Grealish, McKirdy, Agbonlahor.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Dazvillain on July 23, 2017, 03:09:33 PM
Super Samba
Great block then clearing header..... teamsheet ?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Small Rodent on July 23, 2017, 03:09:50 PM
Nice noisy crowd.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: UK Redsox on July 23, 2017, 03:13:16 PM
"Empty seats"
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: London Villan on July 23, 2017, 03:13:53 PM
No commentary on youtube?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Edvard Remberg on July 23, 2017, 03:16:08 PM
McKirdy looks a bit lost
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: UK Redsox on July 23, 2017, 03:16:22 PM
Micah crocked again
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 23, 2017, 03:16:43 PM
Micah Richards decides 10 minutes is more than enough for his work day.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Dazvillain on July 23, 2017, 03:16:47 PM
Richards injury, replaced by no 22 !?!?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Edvard Remberg on July 23, 2017, 03:16:56 PM
His excuse to get wages doing nothing
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: four fornicholl on July 23, 2017, 03:17:41 PM
Micah crocked again
Couldn't be fucking arsed, more like.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: UK Redsox on July 23, 2017, 03:18:24 PM
Davis on up front, Gabby to left wing, Bjork to right back, Bree to centre half

Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 23, 2017, 03:18:44 PM
Amavi showing off there and fooling everyone!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Proposition Joe on July 23, 2017, 03:19:00 PM
McKirdy is a dead ringer for Dane DeHaan, the angsty teenager in Chronicle.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: UK Redsox on July 23, 2017, 03:20:02 PM
Whelan wearing 10

I was expecting Kod to take that one
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Edvard Remberg on July 23, 2017, 03:20:28 PM
He wants 22
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 23, 2017, 03:21:03 PM
Nice play.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 23, 2017, 03:21:35 PM
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAL
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: UK Redsox on July 23, 2017, 03:21:41 PM
Close from Jack after he rides yet another attempted hack down
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 23, 2017, 03:21:49 PM
The big Samba makes it 1-0
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: UK Redsox on July 23, 2017, 03:21:58 PM
Chrissssssssssssdssss
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: devilla on July 23, 2017, 03:22:00 PM
Yess!

Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 23, 2017, 03:22:08 PM
Let's all have a Samba, let's all have a Samba
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 23, 2017, 03:22:28 PM
No Guzan to keep it out
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: CT on July 23, 2017, 03:22:30 PM
Beast!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Dazvillain on July 23, 2017, 03:22:38 PM
Goal from the colossal Samba
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: UK Redsox on July 23, 2017, 03:22:54 PM
The defender jumped pretty well and Chris was still way above him
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: mrfuse on July 23, 2017, 03:23:16 PM
We might actually look like scoring from corners this season with Terry and possibly Samba.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Goldie.7 on July 23, 2017, 03:23:48 PM
I knew when liking up Big Samba's signing pic he'd come through.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: four fornicholl on July 23, 2017, 03:24:08 PM
All together now..
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: UK Redsox on July 23, 2017, 03:24:25 PM
Somehow I don't think that's Hertha's first choice keeper
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 23, 2017, 03:24:35 PM
That was good track I'm back from Gabby
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: jwarry on July 23, 2017, 03:25:34 PM
McKirdys trying to hard.  Needs to calm down a bit
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PaulWinch again on July 23, 2017, 03:25:43 PM
Who's number 37? He's struggling.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: UK Redsox on July 23, 2017, 03:27:37 PM
Who's number 37? He's struggling.

The Hurdy McKirdy Man
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Edvard Remberg on July 23, 2017, 03:28:00 PM
Who's number 37? He's struggling.
I was guessing McKirdy - though not sure
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: mrfuse on July 23, 2017, 03:28:11 PM
Who's number 37? He's struggling.

I cant see who it is, buts he's well off the pace.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Goldie.7 on July 23, 2017, 03:29:12 PM
All together now..

I did my part on the twitter machines.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: jwarry on July 23, 2017, 03:29:33 PM
I like Whelan already but he doesn't look fit
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 23, 2017, 03:29:34 PM
Thor has looked very assured at RB surprisingly
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PaulWinch again on July 23, 2017, 03:29:58 PM
Thor's touch is a lot more assured today.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 23, 2017, 03:30:09 PM
Apart from then as he tore through them.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: UK Redsox on July 23, 2017, 03:30:12 PM
Better from Hurdy
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: CT on July 23, 2017, 03:31:58 PM
Whatever is going on, our fans seem to be having a good time!!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 23, 2017, 03:32:47 PM
There doesn't seem to much wrong with Amavi's fitness
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: mrfuse on July 23, 2017, 03:33:22 PM
Whatever is going on, our fans seem to be having a good time!!

I think one or two shandy's might have something to do with it.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: olaftab on July 23, 2017, 03:33:25 PM
Number 16 is good.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Edvard Remberg on July 23, 2017, 03:33:52 PM
Fuck Samba is huge and strong in the air 💪
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 23, 2017, 03:34:33 PM
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAL Gabby with good work!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Edvard Remberg on July 23, 2017, 03:34:33 PM
He almost missed 😂
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 23, 2017, 03:34:39 PM
GABBBBBBY
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: UK Redsox on July 23, 2017, 03:34:57 PM
Whatever is going on, our fans seem to be having a good time!!

Frank's about to streak


Meanwhile........Gabbbbbbbbbbbyyyyyyyy
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PaulWinch again on July 23, 2017, 03:34:57 PM
Good work Gabby.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: jwarry on July 23, 2017, 03:35:03 PM
Gabby with a cool finish, just!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: devilla on July 23, 2017, 03:35:14 PM
Well, well, Gabby puts one away!!!!!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: olaftab on July 23, 2017, 03:35:18 PM
Gabby he "killed" their number 15
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 23, 2017, 03:35:34 PM
I've never doubted the fat fucker!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: UK Redsox on July 23, 2017, 03:35:54 PM
He almost missed 😂

Alternatively, he rounded the keeper and slotted the ball home nicely
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Drummond on July 23, 2017, 03:35:57 PM
Gabby scoring a one-on-one? Wonders will never cease...
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 23, 2017, 03:36:09 PM
Keeper got a hand on it but Gabby kept his cool well. That number 15 is going to feel like Louis Tomlinson
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: olaftab on July 23, 2017, 03:36:14 PM
Jack is looking good not a hair out of place.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 23, 2017, 03:36:32 PM
Gabby did a Louis Tomlinson on their number 15!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Edvard Remberg on July 23, 2017, 03:36:53 PM
He almost missed 😂

Alternatively, he rounded the keeper and slotted the ball home nicely
It was the rounding the keeper bit i was thinking off
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 23, 2017, 03:37:03 PM
Gabby did a Louis Tomlinson on their number 15!

We really are great minds Mr Shin
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: UK Redsox on July 23, 2017, 03:37:22 PM
Whatever is going on, our fans seem to be having a good time!!

I think one or two shandy's might have something to do with it.

Crowd shots suggest that you're correct
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Dazvillain on July 23, 2017, 03:37:35 PM
Samba give us a wave. Brilliant !
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 23, 2017, 03:37:55 PM
In fairness Gabby has played well. If he can keep it going he will be an asset this season.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Edvard Remberg on July 23, 2017, 03:38:17 PM
Keeper got a hand on it but Gabby kept his cool well. That number 15 is going to feel like Louis Tomlinson
Tomlinson 😭😭😭😭
That was fun
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: UK Redsox on July 23, 2017, 03:38:24 PM
Gabby did a Louis Tomlinson on their number 15!

We really are great minds Mr Shin

Who is Louis Tomlinson ?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 23, 2017, 03:39:14 PM
Gabby did a Louis Tomlinson on their number 15!

We really are great minds Mr Shin

Who is Louis Tomlinson ?

The One Direction kid that Gabby destroyed in that charity game at Celtic Park
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: olaftab on July 23, 2017, 03:40:56 PM
Gabby did a Louis Tomlinson on their number 15!
We really are great minds Mr Shin
Come on TV you knocked 23  seconds off Mr Shins post stop being kind.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 23, 2017, 03:42:12 PM
Whisper it, but we've looked a lot more organized, seem to have a style of plan and some plan of attack in both games. Getting better slowly
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 23, 2017, 03:42:24 PM
Gabby did a Louis Tomlinson on their number 15!

We really are great minds Mr Shin

Who is Louis Tomlinson ?

The One Direction kid that Gabby destroyed in that charity game at Celtic Park

Who then threw up on the sidelines.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: jwarry on July 23, 2017, 03:43:09 PM
Whisper it, but we've looked a lot more organized, seem to have a style of plan and some plan of attack in both games. Getting better slowly

Don't do that it will only come back to bite you
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Small Rodent on July 23, 2017, 03:43:25 PM
Whisper it, but we've looked a lot more organized, seem to have a style of plan and some plan of attack in both games. Getting better slowly

Yes, there's been a lot of commitment in both games.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 23, 2017, 03:43:29 PM
Gabby did a Louis Tomlinson on their number 15!
We really are great minds Mr Shin
Come on TV you knocked 23  seconds off Mr Shins post stop being kind.

It's Sunday morning here and I'm feeling mellow and charitable Olly. Had this been Saturday I'd be putting him in his place.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 23, 2017, 03:43:30 PM
I know it's only a 45 minute friendly but we've looked a lot better in this game. Was out earlier so no idea how we looked in the first game.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: jwarry on July 23, 2017, 03:45:37 PM
They don't like it up em do they
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: CT on July 23, 2017, 03:45:54 PM
Their players have got this chucking themselves to the floor nailed perfectly.

They've been doing it the whole half / match.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: olaftab on July 23, 2017, 03:45:54 PM
Whelan just a couple of days late with that tackle.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: four fornicholl on July 23, 2017, 03:47:16 PM
Nearly 14000 watching online, impressive stuff.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: jwarry on July 23, 2017, 03:47:26 PM
Amavis played well
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: CT on July 23, 2017, 03:48:09 PM
Errr, where's it gone?!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 23, 2017, 03:48:19 PM
Blackout!!!!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: UK Redsox on July 23, 2017, 03:48:22 PM
My YT feed has just gone
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 23, 2017, 03:48:24 PM
I know it's only a 45 minute friendly but we've looked a lot better in this game. Was out earlier so no idea how we looked in the first game.

Much the same. Elmo looked excellent and Hogan very sharp. Terry untroubled for the most part
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Meanwood Villa on July 23, 2017, 03:48:37 PM
It's disappeared!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: devilla on July 23, 2017, 03:48:39 PM
Stream's gone.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: olaftab on July 23, 2017, 03:48:43 PM
Nearly 14000 watching online, impressive stuff.
Too many obviously as it's disappeared!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Dazvillain on July 23, 2017, 03:48:48 PM
Coverage gone !
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 23, 2017, 03:48:50 PM
2-2.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Goldie.7 on July 23, 2017, 03:48:53 PM
I blame PWS for the blackout!!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 23, 2017, 03:49:00 PM
By winning a trophy we've broken youtube.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: UK Redsox on July 23, 2017, 03:49:01 PM
Blackout!!!!

Great song by an underrated rock band
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: chrisw1 on July 23, 2017, 03:49:07 PM
Just tuned in, can someone please explain what's going on - two games?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 23, 2017, 03:49:11 PM
Not just the game. I can't get back on to YT
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: jwarry on July 23, 2017, 03:49:19 PM
Nearly 14000 watching online, impressive stuff.

Not anymore!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: UK Redsox on July 23, 2017, 03:49:53 PM
Didn't recognise the name but I do remember the incident you're talking about

https://youtu.be/ydDiiHc5iK8
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 23, 2017, 03:50:04 PM
Blackout!!!!

Great song by an underrated rock band

I agree

Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 23, 2017, 03:50:11 PM
Got it back with foreign commentary... it's under Duisburg vs Malaga.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 23, 2017, 03:50:28 PM
And... it has finished.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: devilla on July 23, 2017, 03:50:30 PM
Typical Villa. We're actually winning and they manage to lose the stream.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: CT on July 23, 2017, 03:50:38 PM
First major trophy since the Hong Kong 7s and we're gonna miss it.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 23, 2017, 03:51:10 PM
Have we actually won the trophy? Don't we still have one game to play?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 23, 2017, 03:51:19 PM
Just tuned in, can someone please explain what's going on - two games?

Beat Duisburg comfortably in the end 3-0. They looked better for a spell. Elmo very good, Hogan very sharp. Jack Doyle-Hayes outstanding. This game very solid in all aspects of the game.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Edvard Remberg on July 23, 2017, 03:51:48 PM
Not a Villa stream
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 23, 2017, 03:52:23 PM
Dunno if there will be any more coverage but it was also here
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 23, 2017, 03:52:35 PM
We're all going to miss us lifting our first trophy since the much desired Peace Cup. Typical.

XIA out!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: four fornicholl on July 23, 2017, 03:52:48 PM
its back
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: olaftab on July 23, 2017, 03:53:10 PM
2-2.
And Hertha win on pens >:(
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 23, 2017, 03:53:27 PM
What's a ferreteria? Do Spaniards have special shops where you can buy ferrets?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: UK Redsox on July 23, 2017, 03:54:13 PM
There's someone on the pitch singing I Will Survive
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: paul_e on July 23, 2017, 03:54:36 PM
Didn't catch all of either of them but from what I saw this is much more like how we should've been playing all along.  Mixing a few kids in helped a lot because the senior players we have are pretty much all honest grafters and it's the youngsters that give us a bit of unpredictability.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: four fornicholl on July 23, 2017, 03:54:51 PM
Who got the tjird?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 23, 2017, 03:54:54 PM
There's someone on the pitch singing I Will Survive

Are they wearing a pink suit?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 23, 2017, 03:55:14 PM
Assume we are the champions? Or is the song something chosen by Bruce because we blew the lead and lost?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: chrisw1 on July 23, 2017, 03:55:33 PM
Is there another game?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: olaftab on July 23, 2017, 03:55:39 PM

There's someone on the pitch singing I Will Survive
That's Luis Tomlinson.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 23, 2017, 03:55:58 PM
According to Greggggggg Evans, we won the tournament.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: UK Redsox on July 23, 2017, 03:56:24 PM
Now showing highlights
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: olaftab on July 23, 2017, 03:56:34 PM
According to Greggggggg Evans, we won the tournament.
Is John getting ready to lift the cup?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 23, 2017, 03:57:27 PM
Champions!!!!!!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 23, 2017, 03:57:37 PM
Take that Angela. You put out your top German sides against us and we destroyed them. Champions of Europe again!!!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 23, 2017, 03:58:08 PM
According to Greggggggg Evans, we won the tournament.
Is John getting ready to lift the cup?

You just know he's still in his kit don't you LOL
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: The Edge on July 23, 2017, 03:59:11 PM
How bloody annoying. Did we win or what?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: wally58 on July 23, 2017, 03:59:30 PM
Did we win or what?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: four fornicholl on July 23, 2017, 03:59:37 PM
Whats occuring, fkn restricted views.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: UK Redsox on July 23, 2017, 03:59:48 PM
How bloody annoying. Did we win or what?

Yep, European domination has begun
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: The Edge on July 23, 2017, 04:00:02 PM
2-2.
Hilarious
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 23, 2017, 04:00:14 PM
That parrot looks like he'd be useful in the air.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: devilla on July 23, 2017, 04:00:39 PM
What the fuckin ell is that? Love it.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 23, 2017, 04:01:04 PM
Gabby not keen on speeches.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: The Edge on July 23, 2017, 04:01:27 PM
How bloody annoying. Did we win or what?

Yep, European domination has begun
Great. I'm off to run around the bullring in me hippy hat
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 23, 2017, 04:01:36 PM
That trophy is actually pretty cool.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: frank black on July 23, 2017, 04:01:51 PM
What a monstrous trophy lol
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: chrisw1 on July 23, 2017, 04:02:17 PM
Only saw 15 mins but grealish looked good
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 23, 2017, 04:02:48 PM
Well that's the first part of the quadruple in the trophy room.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: four fornicholl on July 23, 2017, 04:03:16 PM
WTF,hahahahaha.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: frank black on July 23, 2017, 04:03:23 PM
Gollem emerging from a ball.....😂
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 23, 2017, 04:04:17 PM
The trophy is bigger than McCurdy.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: frank black on July 23, 2017, 04:04:54 PM
Laughing my socks off, no players want to be seen with that trophy
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 23, 2017, 04:05:29 PM
The trophy is bigger than McCurdy.

Strange trophy, why have a life size model of Barry Bannan coming out of a ball?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: UK Redsox on July 23, 2017, 04:06:49 PM
(http://preview.ibb.co/fnQJX5/IMG_0118.jpg) (http://ibb.co/gTjqek)
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 23, 2017, 04:06:54 PM
Well that was quite fun watching Villa. It will never catch on.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Edvard Remberg on July 23, 2017, 04:07:25 PM
JT already lifted his first trophy
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: dave shelley on July 23, 2017, 04:08:40 PM
Terry already saying it's the greatest moment in his career.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Ads on July 23, 2017, 04:10:38 PM
We a bit happier after these friendlies?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Goldie.7 on July 23, 2017, 04:10:58 PM
Well that was an enjoyable 90 minutes of football.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: spangley1812 on July 23, 2017, 04:12:03 PM
I hope the Open Top Bus is booked 
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: supertom on July 23, 2017, 04:15:09 PM
I hope the Open Top Bus is booked 
We're not Birmingham City. They'd be dining off this fucker for 50 years.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Clampy on July 23, 2017, 04:20:35 PM
We seem to like beating German teams in finals.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 23, 2017, 04:24:15 PM
We a bit happier after these friendlies?

I only watched the Hertha game. The commitment is there. Bloody hell, for a friendly we were taking no prisoners. Still not sure what we're trying to do other than get in their faces and improve fitness.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: jwarry on July 23, 2017, 04:25:03 PM
We a bit happier after these friendlies?

Well it does look like a bit of team spirit is creeping in
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Clampy on July 23, 2017, 04:30:17 PM
The trophy was a bit naff. It was the kind of thing Jossy's Giants would have won.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: four fornicholl on July 23, 2017, 04:31:36 PM
The trophy was a bit naff. It was the kind of thing Jossy's Giants would have won.
Can't see it making "The" cabinet.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: devilla on July 23, 2017, 04:35:25 PM
I fel a lot more positive after this weekend. Positives for me are Hogan looking sharp, Terry's leadership, Samba looking good and scoring - with good deliveries from corners he and Terry will be real threats and Callum O'Hare impressing yesterday. And Elmo looked really good down the right wing.

What was especially good today was seeing us playing through the midfield instead of hoofing it.

Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Tuscans on July 23, 2017, 04:41:44 PM
Just booked myself in for 3 minutes at the tattoo studio to get the Cup of Traditions inked.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 23, 2017, 04:44:03 PM
The trophy was a bit naff. It was the kind of thing Jossy's Giants would have won.

I wonder if they'll leave it at the airport. Great to see the lads having a laugh though.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: chrisw1 on July 23, 2017, 04:49:36 PM
Just watched the MSV game on Playback.  Although he didn't have a great deal to do Terry seems to give us real calmness and assurance at the back.  He looks up for it and seems to fit in. I'm starting to think this will turn out to have been a great bit of business and suspect the season ticket ripper uppers will come round to him soon enough
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: dave shelley on July 23, 2017, 04:50:48 PM
I liked the way Samba celebrated his goal with a simple fist pump.  I felt that it meant something to him.

McKirdy looks a grumpy fucker, and I like grumpy in my footballers, to me, it shows they're committed and don't like losing.

I think the trophy is made of polystyrene, it must be because if it isn't nobody would be able to lift it.  Either that or Balsa wood.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: SoccerHQ on July 23, 2017, 04:52:04 PM
Well that was an enjoyable 90 minutes of football.

Didn't see the game but according to one of my betting apps it was 40 minutes per half?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Tuscans on July 23, 2017, 04:53:50 PM
Well that was an enjoyable 90 minutes of football.

Didn't see the game but according to one of my betting apps it was 40 minutes per half?
We played 2 matches, 45 minutes each.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: eamonn on July 23, 2017, 04:56:43 PM
Are there sweeties and skittles in the column of the trophy? Looks epic.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 23, 2017, 05:05:33 PM
The trophy was a bit naff. It was the kind of thing Jossy's Giants would have won.

Christ, are you never satisfied.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: VillaAlways on July 23, 2017, 05:06:14 PM

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Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on July 23, 2017, 05:27:48 PM
There's seemed to be much more attacking purpose today, long may it continue. Good to see Elmo and Grealish taking players on. Great finishing from Hogan some promising performances from the kids.

I actually thought Gabby may have committed a foul for his goal but the fact he was getting stuck in was a positive. I suppose. He's gonna earn himself a new bloody contract isn't he?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: b23 on July 23, 2017, 05:30:14 PM
What was the trophy that Gabby got ? Player of the Tournament ?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Ads on July 23, 2017, 05:31:00 PM

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Champions of England!
Champions of Spain!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: in exile on July 23, 2017, 05:49:48 PM
What was the trophy that Gabby got ? Player of the Tournament ?

Man Of The Match - for the final I presume
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: four fornicholl on July 23, 2017, 05:52:08 PM

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Champions of England!
Champions of Spain!
Champions of Europe no less.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: b23 on July 23, 2017, 05:55:13 PM
What was the trophy that Gabby got ? Player of the Tournament ?

Man Of The Match - for the final I presume

Aha. Yes. I don't think he even played in the first game. Doh !!! Thank you.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt C on July 23, 2017, 06:01:36 PM
First silverware of the season, long may it continue.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt Collins on July 23, 2017, 06:05:40 PM
There's seemed to be much more attacking purpose today, long may it continue. Good to see Elmo and Grealish taking players on. Great finishing from Hogan some promising performances from the kids.

I actually thought Gabby may have committed a foul for his goal but the fact he was getting stuck in was a positive. I suppose. He's gonna earn himself a new bloody contract isn't he?

May? It was GBH!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 23, 2017, 06:10:59 PM
Nothing wrong with that goal. Their players spent the whole game collapsing to the floor, so bollocks to them.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt Collins on July 23, 2017, 06:12:51 PM
Overall reflections:

1. I really REALLY enjoyed watching it. Five goals in 90 minutes and some v good performances

2. Standouts for me:

- defence looked strong, especially Terry and samba
- Doyle-Hoyes and to lesser extent Green and O'Hare (McKirdy struggled for most the game)
- could see pattern emerging, more penetration, more pace

3. Must bear in mind that Duisburg were shocking at the backfor all three goals and the ref did us a favour for Gabby's.

4. We looked much better with our forwards running in behind - but remains to be seen how well we do when teams play deep (we struggled v Walsall here)

5. Elmohamady was very good - albeit against a weak team. Grealish played quite well and nearly scored, but was a bit sloppy on occasion. If we play this formation that 10 position is key.

6. But overall feeling much more positive now. Even though doesn't really count for much
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 23, 2017, 06:41:56 PM
The trophy was a bit naff. It was the kind of thing Jossy's Giants would have won.

Christ, are you never satisfied.

The trophy design is horrific. We're all tickled pink that we are champions of something this weekend.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Damo70 on July 23, 2017, 06:46:11 PM
The trophy was a bit naff. It was the kind of thing Jossy's Giants would have won.

Christ, are you never satisfied.

The trophy design is horrific. We're all tickled pink that we are champions of something this weekend.


Maybe we could go back to the years of being 'Champions Of Europe' and the old Le Coq Sportif kit with the badge in the middle and under it the words 'Champions Of Something'.


Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: john e on July 23, 2017, 06:55:16 PM
The trophy was a bit naff. It was the kind of thing Jossy's Giants would have won.

Christ, are you never satisfied.

Harsh,
that's probably the first time Clampy's moaned on here about anything for about 5 years and your straight jumping down his throat
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Tugby Villain on July 23, 2017, 06:59:14 PM
Cup winners - that calls for a beer in the bath!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Leicester_Villian on July 23, 2017, 07:08:38 PM
Where is RHM? I must have missed something as I have not seen his name in any friendlies
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: eamonn on July 23, 2017, 07:09:15 PM
Isn't Clampy more regular accused of being a 'clapper?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: adrenachrome on July 23, 2017, 07:09:56 PM
There's seemed to be much more attacking purpose today, long may it continue. Good to see Elmo and Grealish taking players on. Great finishing from Hogan some promising performances from the kids.

I actually thought Gabby may have committed a foul for his goal but the fact he was getting stuck in was a positive. I suppose. He's gonna earn himself a new bloody contract isn't he?

May? It was GBH!

Remember Benteke's goal against Malaga in a pre season friendly? The defender went off wth a broken collar bone. Swatted the poor fucker away like a beach ball.




Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: brian green on July 23, 2017, 07:29:35 PM
I like the trophy.  Pure kitsch. 
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: oldtimernow on July 23, 2017, 07:33:33 PM
I was impressed by how the youngsters got involved and pressured their opponents, that comes of having some stable heads around that will not wilt.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Tugby Villain on July 23, 2017, 07:36:46 PM
I was impressed by how the youngsters got involved and pressured their opponents, that comes of having some stable heads around that will not wilt.

Yes, they were very impressive.  Nice to see.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on July 23, 2017, 08:15:25 PM
Looking a lot better today, and always nice to win any trophy!

Positives - El Mohamady looked good, Samba will give Bruce a selection headache, Terry was excellent, Hogan finally looked decent. No sign of 3 at the back, looks like 4-4-2 this season.

Negative - Hope Richards injury doesn't stop us selling the useless donkey. Still at least if he is injured he can't play.

Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: tomd2103 on July 23, 2017, 08:39:55 PM

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Terry not in full kit for a trophy presentation shocker!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on July 23, 2017, 08:54:20 PM
Champions .... of the WORLD.

That was really fun though. I think the players enjoyed it as well.

I want to temper my enthusiasm but my god its nice to have Chris Samba in the side. I just feel like we wont make comedy mistakes with him there.

Nice to see Hogan do well, also special shout out to some of Amavi's ball control at speed.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: BC54 VFC on July 23, 2017, 09:14:22 PM
There's someone on the pitch singing I Will Survive
Is his name D. Ismay? (he says with dismay)
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: TheMalandro on July 23, 2017, 09:31:47 PM
I like the trophy.  Pure kitsch. 

Donated from Clifford Cross Brian
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: saunders_heroes on July 23, 2017, 09:51:51 PM
Smart goals from Hogan. I think he'll be a big hit this season.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PaulWinch again on July 23, 2017, 10:00:10 PM
Smart goals from Hogan. I think he'll be a big hit this season.

Hope so. I think Elmo will be a very important player.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: olaftab on July 23, 2017, 10:12:31 PM
I want to temper my enthusiasm but my god its nice to have Chris Samba in the side. I just feel like we wont make comedy mistakes with him there.
I know what you are saying but the thought of Samba, Terry, Jedinak and Whelan being on the pitch at the same time worries me immensely.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: peter w on July 23, 2017, 10:13:46 PM
Disagree with matt that Gabby fouled their defender, he was simply out-muscled. Most refs like to see a physical tussle and will let it go, and usually it goes they defender's way. this time it didn't. Absolutely nothing wrong with Gabby's challenge which was just a physical presence.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: LukeJames on July 23, 2017, 10:17:33 PM
Smart goals from Hogan. I think he'll be a big hit this season.

Keep playing the balls into him in the manner in which we did today and he'll bury them all day long. Keep playing the balls long and isolating him as we did on too many occasions last season and he'll look lost.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 23, 2017, 10:23:57 PM
I loved what Hogan did and what he's capable of. I wonder how it all comes together when Jimmy D is fit again?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: peter w on July 23, 2017, 10:30:21 PM
Its almost like a different set-up with kodjia but you have to try and play them together to see if it works. I doubt it will and I doubt he'll be a Villa player in 12 months time.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: eamonn on July 23, 2017, 10:48:39 PM
Lovely way of letting the ball run effectively for Scotty's second.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: SirSteveUK on July 23, 2017, 11:25:17 PM
Kodjia should play off Hogan - that would work.  JK always looks better coming from wide.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: tomd2103 on July 23, 2017, 11:57:49 PM
Just watched both games.  Some things of note I felt:

- Played 4-4-2 in both games.  Surely going to begin the season with that formation

- Sides were a bit mix and match, but combinations starting to come together - Chester and Terry in central defence, Whelan and Lansbury in central midfield, Elmohamady and Green starting in the wings together

- Hogan looked sharp and scored two excellent goals

- After a while in the second game, Grealish went into a more central 'number 10' role and had a few passes threaded through to him.  If we are to get the best out of Hogan, then I think playing that kind of formation might be the best way.  If Grealish can finally crack it this season and become the player we all hope he will be, then that might be a partnership that could really be one to watch.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Perthvillan on July 24, 2017, 04:43:32 AM
That was a relief after watching our earlier pre-season games.
The defence was solid as a rock in both games.
Elmo looks like he might be okay.
We showed some energy and wanting to get at the other side instead of going through the motions.
The young boys performed well and Hogan shows what he is capable of given some service.
I particularly liked his second against Duisberg as he had a bit to do to get goal side of their defender and then slot it in the corner as the keeper came out.
Roll on the real thing.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Drummond on July 24, 2017, 07:09:06 AM
I liked the way Samba celebrated his goal with a simple fist pump.  I felt that it meant something to him.

McKirdy looks a grumpy fucker, and I like grumpy in my footballers, to me, it shows they're committed and don't like losing.

I think the trophy is made of polystyrene, it must be because if it isn't nobody would be able to lift it.  Either that or Balsa wood.

Is Balsa our new super-strong centre forward?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: passitsideways on July 24, 2017, 07:16:57 AM
I liked the way Samba celebrated his goal with a simple fist pump.  I felt that it meant something to him.

McKirdy looks a grumpy fucker, and I like grumpy in my footballers, to me, it shows they're committed and don't like losing.

I think the trophy is made of polystyrene, it must be because if it isn't nobody would be able to lift it.  Either that or Balsa wood.

Is Balsa our new super-strong centre forward?

I woodn't count on it
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: CT on July 24, 2017, 07:50:05 AM
We'll be pine up front with Kodj and Hogan.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Scratchins on July 24, 2017, 07:51:58 AM
If only we could get Ash back again.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: QuintonVilla on July 24, 2017, 08:34:36 AM
Loved the old school slow version of 'Holte Enders In The Sky', that's how it should be sung. Bring it back.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Mister E on July 24, 2017, 08:38:10 AM
We'll be pine up front with Kodj and Hogan.
They may get some needle.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: brian green on July 24, 2017, 08:44:59 AM
Balsa is too lightweight up front.  We need somebody larch.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: oldtimernow on July 24, 2017, 08:47:50 AM
So long as he has the enthusiasm for the club that Birchy had
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: LeeB on July 24, 2017, 08:54:38 AM
Balsa is too lightweight up front.  We need somebody larch.

I wood knot disagree with you there Brian.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Tony Erdington on July 24, 2017, 08:55:18 AM
you lot cant see the wood for the trees.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: wittonwarrior on July 24, 2017, 09:18:04 AM
Loved the old school slow version of 'Holte Enders In The Sky', that's how it should be sung. Bring it back.

Your have to thank big h for that the whole repertoire came out yesterday
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Proposition Joe on July 24, 2017, 09:49:35 AM
Loved the old school slow version of 'Holte Enders In The Sky', that's how it should be sung. Bring it back.

Your have to thank big h for that the whole repertoire came out yesterday

Heh, based on the Burl Ives original rather than the Jonny Cash knock-off?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 24, 2017, 10:51:18 AM
According to Fotmob we are at Tamworth on Friday. I can't imagine we will put out a very strong team with Watford scheduled for Saturday.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: The Edge on July 24, 2017, 12:46:07 PM
Loved the old school slow version of 'Holte Enders In The Sky', that's how it should be sung. Bring it back.

Your have to thank big h for that the whole repertoire came out yesterday
Wasn't at the game watched on you tube. The camera homed in on Big H right in mid flow!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Hookeysmith on July 24, 2017, 12:56:01 PM
I missed the 1st game - any highlights of the goals please
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 24, 2017, 12:57:54 PM
If the games were played in Germany, two German sides in the competition along with one English and one Spanish, why was La Liga so prominently featured?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on July 24, 2017, 12:58:59 PM
I missed the 1st game - any highlights of the goals please

You can watch the whole 45 minutes on the clubs youtube site
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: peter w on July 24, 2017, 01:07:53 PM
well, all but the last 5 minutes.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Ad@m on July 24, 2017, 01:15:48 PM
I particularly liked his second against Duisberg as he had a bit to do to get goal side of their defender

He really, really didn't.  I played my entire Sunday football career in defence and I'd be embarrassed at how badly that defender misjudged the ball.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: in exile on July 24, 2017, 01:51:06 PM
All four teams involved in the tournament were sponsored by betting companies.
Just thought I would mention it.
Turrar
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Chris Stares on July 24, 2017, 02:27:02 PM
I missed the 1st game - any highlights of the goals please
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Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Pat McMahon on July 24, 2017, 02:33:11 PM
All four teams involved in the tournament were sponsored by betting companies.
Just thought I would mention it.
Turrar

Blimey, what were the odds on that?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: The Edge on July 24, 2017, 03:35:42 PM
All four teams involved in the tournament were sponsored by betting companies.
Just thought I would mention it.
Turrar

Blimey, what were the odds on that?
Evens
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: ChicagoLion on July 24, 2017, 04:13:24 PM
Most hideous troph ever.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: TheTimVilla on July 24, 2017, 04:24:42 PM
Most hideous troph ever.

Not bad for 13 quid, mind.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: adrenachrome on July 24, 2017, 04:25:09 PM
All four teams involved in the tournament were sponsored by betting companies.
Just thought I would mention it.
Turrar

Blimey, what were the odds on that?
Evens

Odds on would be a better bet.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt Collins on July 24, 2017, 04:30:25 PM
I particularly liked his second against Duisberg as he had a bit to do to get goal side of their defender

He really, really didn't.  I played my entire Sunday football career in defence and I'd be embarrassed at how badly that defender misjudged the ball.

Yep - four of the five goals we scored involved shocking defending, which should temper our excitement a bit (though still great to get 5 in 90 minutes and we definitely looked more dangerous full stop).
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Dave Cooper please on July 24, 2017, 04:46:23 PM
According to Fotmob we are at Tamworth on Friday. I can't imagine we will put out a very strong team with Watford scheduled for Saturday.

Confirmed by Tamworth as a "Aston Villa XI" so the U-23's basically.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: OCD on July 24, 2017, 11:22:22 PM
I particularly liked his second against Duisberg as he had a bit to do to get goal side of their defender

He really, really didn't.  I played my entire Sunday football career in defence and I'd be embarrassed at how badly that defender misjudged the ball.

Awful positioning. The defending for Gabby's goal was terrible too. We'll be lucky if teams defend like that against us next season.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 25, 2017, 02:08:15 AM
According to Fotmob we are at Tamworth on Friday.

Do Tamworth have a team? Are you sure you're not confusing them with Drayton Manor Theme Park XI?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt Collins on July 25, 2017, 06:23:23 AM
I've just seen we've sold 5k tickets for the SGT game. Is that right?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Walmley_Villa on July 25, 2017, 08:20:38 AM
I've just seen we've sold 5k tickets for the SGT game. Is that right?

Yes - tickets haven't been on sale for long and it is main holiday season. We will have done well to get to 10k.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Clampy on July 25, 2017, 08:23:57 AM
The game being on you tube won't help. It would be nice to see a decent crowd down there to remember in our own way such a bloody good manager.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 25, 2017, 08:25:06 AM
It's really stupid putting this on YouTube. Hopefully they will reconsider.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Clampy on July 25, 2017, 08:34:37 AM
It's really stupid putting this on YouTube. Hopefully they will reconsider.

I agree. The fact that proceeds from the game are going to charity as well, it is a strange decision.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: peter w on July 25, 2017, 10:44:40 AM
Its a friendly. If you're put off going because it's on youtube you weren't going to go anyway.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 25, 2017, 10:44:42 AM
£15 a ticket for a friendly and live on Youtube isn't going to encourage a big turnout. The club don't seem to be pushing it much and as all the upper tiers are closed they obviously figured it was going to be a low crowd.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 25, 2017, 11:06:16 AM
Part of the issue is that Graham Taylor managed us 30 years ago. For fans of my age we remember that period quite clearly. But his significance won't resonate with literally generations of fans since who will never appreciate who he was, what he meant to us, what he meant to football in this area and to the game of football in general.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt Collins on July 25, 2017, 11:10:07 AM
Yeah but even a standard pre season game against decent opposition would normally get more than this no?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: peter w on July 25, 2017, 11:12:06 AM
It's not decent opposition though, it's Watford. no better than having Boro last season although the SGT connection may put a few more on the gate.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 25, 2017, 11:14:45 AM
Yeah but even a standard pre season game against decent opposition would normally get more than this no?

Hard to know as games haven't been live on Youtube before and we haven't been this shite for over 40 years. Don't forget we had that friendly at home against Parma a few years ago and the club swerved saying how many (or few) turned up.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: jwarry on July 25, 2017, 11:20:44 AM
Tonight's friendly off because of waterlogged pitch
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 25, 2017, 11:26:13 AM
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Aston Villa’s friendly game with Arminia Bielefeld has been called off due to weather conditions.

The referee for tonight’s 6pm kick-off at Heidewaldstadion has inspected the waterlogged pitch this morning and deemed it unfit for play.

Steve Bruce’s men will now travel back to the UK to prepare for the Graham Taylor memorial game on Saturday.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: MoetVillan on July 25, 2017, 11:48:16 AM
I read that as "Villa remain undefeated in Europe this year"
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: CT on July 25, 2017, 11:59:22 AM
Part of the issue is that Graham Taylor managed us 30 years ago. For fans of my age we remember that period quite clearly. But his significance won't resonate with literally generations of fans since who will never appreciate who he was, what he meant to us, what he meant to football in this area and to the game of football in general.

Yep, this.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: saunders_heroes on July 25, 2017, 12:12:04 PM
I still think we'd have sold more tickets by now if the club had publicised it a bit more.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Hookeysmith on July 25, 2017, 12:29:34 PM
I was advised that they anticipate 15-18K
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Matt Collins on July 25, 2017, 12:55:51 PM
That wouldn't be so bad

On the field, I don't imagine we'll be seeing 352 at the start of the season then. Only 1 more practice game now

No bad thing in my view
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Chris Harte on July 25, 2017, 01:13:39 PM
I still think we'd have sold more tickets by now if the club had publicised it a bit more.
Just a thought, but couldn't the Watford game have a bit more prominence here (i.e, it's own thread in the main discussion area)? I only ask this because of whose memorial it is. As it is, it buried in a pre-season thread, out of obvious sight.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 25, 2017, 01:21:10 PM
Part of the issue is that Graham Taylor managed us 30 years ago. For fans of my age we remember that period quite clearly. But his significance won't resonate with literally generations of fans since who will never appreciate who he was, what he meant to us, what he meant to football in this area and to the game of football in general.

Yes, that's why nobody under the age of forty joined in with the "Graham Taylor's claret and blue army" chant at Wolves last season, none of our fans who weren't watching in 1982 ever sing about us winning the European Cup, and every home fan under the age of 140 walks past the William McGregor statue bemused each game.

If there's one thing Villa fans are well known for, it's not taking an interest in our history or being willing to bring it up in conversation.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: j66acd on July 25, 2017, 05:45:04 PM
Is the game being streamed tonight?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: paul_e on July 25, 2017, 05:46:17 PM
Is the game being streamed tonight?

It's been cancelled, pitch failed an inspection.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 25, 2017, 07:09:56 PM
Maybe the stream damaged the pitch?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Dave on July 25, 2017, 07:22:40 PM
No more friendlies and the Watford game with its own thread means this one probably doesn't need to be stickied anymore.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: brentastonb6 on July 26, 2017, 12:25:32 AM
 
I still think we'd have sold more tickets by now if the club had publicised it a bit more.
I still think it will be a good turnout, especially if we parade the cup  ;)
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Holte L2 on July 26, 2017, 10:21:37 AM
No more friendlies and the Watford game with its own thread means this one probably doesn't need to be stickied anymore.

Under 23's at Tamworth Friday night.  Going to pop down to that. 
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: UK Redsox on July 26, 2017, 10:40:45 AM
No more friendlies and the Watford game with its own thread means this one probably doesn't need to be stickied anymore.

Under 23's at Tamworth Friday night.  Going to pop down to that. 

If I lived a bit closer, the Tamworth game would be of more interest to me than the Watford one
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 26, 2017, 11:10:38 AM
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Aston Villa is pleased to announce that fans who travelled to Germany for the game with Arminia Bielefeld can claim a free ticket for the weekend Watford match.

We face the Hornets in the Graham Taylor tribute match on Saturday, kick-off 3pm.

As a gesture from the club, fans who can provide travel documents for their German trip – either flight boarding pass or embarkment documents from a ferry crossing from July 25 onwards - can take up the offer of a free ticket.

Supporters wishing to take up this offer should present these, along with their passport, at the Villa Park ticket office before a 1pm deadline on Saturday to exchange for their complimentary ticket for the weekend game with the Hornets.

We acknowledge the expense fans will have gone to in following the team to Germany and the disappointment from the match being cancelled due to a waterlogged pitch.

Chief Executive Keith Wyness said: "We wanted to acknowledge our supporters who travelled to Germany and were planning on attending the match on Tuesday evening.

"I'm aware many were either en route or preparing to travel and we wanted to say thanks for their unstinting support of the team.”
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: peter w on July 26, 2017, 11:13:13 AM
25th onwards? What about those already in Germany from Sunday who were staying on?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: amfy on July 26, 2017, 12:10:30 PM
As the 25th was yesterday I guess they mean evidence of trips home too?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Hookeysmith on July 26, 2017, 01:19:04 PM
if everyone who was planned to go to the game gets a free tickets then fair play - I know it does not compensate fully for the cost of travel etc but as game was off due to weather they did not have to do anything
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: frank black on July 26, 2017, 04:24:37 PM
That trophy "xp031 explode" is available for £15.00 online 😂
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 26, 2017, 04:31:28 PM
That trophy "xp031 explode" is available for £15.00 online 😂

That's 20cm high. It's obvious it was a cheap and cheerful trophy but it cost a chunk more than the prices being mentioned by fans of us and other clubs.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: wittonwarrior on July 26, 2017, 05:58:02 PM
Should have least the ones staying out a blues or burton away ticket
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: in exile on July 27, 2017, 11:58:56 AM
Should have least the ones staying out a blues or burton away ticket

What does that even mean?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Hookeysmith on July 27, 2017, 01:19:36 PM
Should have least the ones staying out a blues or burton away ticket

What does that even mean?

I think he means a game where the tickets are hard to come by - so it feels more like compensation
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: wittonwarrior on July 27, 2017, 01:21:19 PM
Should have least the ones staying out a blues or burton away ticket

What does that even mean?

Meant to say they should be offered either a small Heath away or burton away ticket at the very least
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on July 28, 2017, 09:47:43 PM
 Villa 4-0 up against Tamworth. LiveScore says that Scott Sinclair scored our 4th goal?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 28, 2017, 09:51:14 PM
He was so desperate to piss Dave Cooper off he flew down to the Midlands to play for us one last time.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: eamonn on July 28, 2017, 11:58:01 PM
Was it cos he wuz black wiv a trendy hairstyle? Amavi, maybe.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: Dave Cooper please on July 29, 2017, 01:45:15 AM
It was Tamworth's Nyeko Sinclair who deflected a Clarke shot past his own keeper.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Friendlies
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on July 29, 2017, 08:55:10 AM
It was Tamworth's Nyeko Sinclair who deflected a Clarke shot past his own keeper.

Stupid LiveScore definitely said Scott Sinclair. I thought we may have a youngster called it (a bit like when we had 2 James Collins).
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