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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: olaftab on February 15, 2017, 11:25:15 AM
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Current form will suggest that we have to take the threat of relegation seriously. So I think we need 50 points to be absolutely safe and that means 14 from remaining 15 matches. Should be doable but I am not sure....
16. Aston Villa 31 8 12 11 30:36 36
17. Nottingham 32 10 6 16 45:56 36
18. Wolves 31 9 8 14 38:42 35
19. QPR 31 9 7 15 30:44 34
20. Bristol City 31 9 5 17 42:46 32
21. Burton 31 8 7 16 31:45 31
22. Wigan 31 7 8 16 29:38 29
23. Blackburn 31 7 8 16 36:49 29
24. Rotherham 32 4 5 23 30:68 17
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Well it looks like 2 places are up for grabs and we might just fill one of them. I really can't believe I've written those words but each and every team below us will battle,scrap and fight for every point (we'll perhaps apart from Wolves), and we are miles off it at the moment.
Last night wasn't even a surprise.
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Fucking ace, top of the table. Oh wait..........
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Surely 10 points taking us to 46 would be ok.
If it's truly 14 points required then we are in deep trouble.
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What grounds are you looking forward to going to next year if we drop.
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I am starting to get a bit concerned but surely we'll see some improvement before the end of the season and we've got a reasonable cushion. The initial new manager bounce under Bruce may be what ends up saving us.
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At least if we go down next year we will smash it....
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Think we'll be okay this season and possibly the next but by the third season down here we've had it.
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Shit I thought this thread was advertising a nice commemorative timepiece - possibly to help us countdown to the inevitable plummet into obscurity
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Think we'll be okay this season and possibly the next but by the third season down here we've had it.
Yes, that's the wage bill fire sale tipping point.
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Think we'll be okay this season and possibly the next but by the third season down here we've had it.
Yes, that's the wage bill fire sale tipping point.
At least we'll be able to see if Agbonlahor has found his level.
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Think we'll be okay this season and possibly the next but by the third season down here we've had it.
Yes, that's the wage bill fire sale tipping point.
At least we'll be able to see if Agbonlahor has found his level.
I'm not so sure, I think that's akin to dropping an anchor over the Mariana trench.
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We won't go down.
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I have a mate who is a Preston fan and he seemed to think 47 points was the magical figure.
I am sure we will scrape our way to 47 points but it is absolutely shameful that we are looking over our shoulders after spending a gazillion on new players - absolute garbage
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Working backwards from last season, this is how many points the side finishing 22nd had: 40, 41, 44, 54, 40, 42, 47, 46, 52, 42, 42, 50 (04/05).
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We won't get relegated
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SHA stayed up on 44 points I think in 13/14.
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Last season 41 points was good enough to stay up in the championship, 42 in 14/15, 44 in 13/14, occasionally its very high as in 12/13 when 55 was needed, that was when Wolves went straight through into League 1, a few points on the board in the next few games will stop me doing this kind of research.
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SHA stayed up on 44 points I think in 13/14.
I think this is one of the saddest most disheartening statements about what we have come to. On so many levels.
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Think we'll be okay this season and possibly the next but by the third season down here we've had it.
Think we'll be okay this season and possibly the next but by the third season down here we've had it.
Yes, that's the wage bill fire sale tipping point.
At least we'll be able to see if Agbonlahor has found his level.
I'm not so sure, I think that's akin to dropping an anchor over the Mariana trench.
Yes, that's the wage bill fire sale tipping point.
At least we'll be able to see if Agbonlahor has found his level.
I'm not so sure, I think that's akin to dropping an anchor over the Mariana trench.
This made me spit out my beer !
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I have a mate who is a Preston fan and he seemed to think 47 points was the magical figure.
I am sure we will scrape our way to 47 points but it is absolutely shameful that we are looking over our shoulders after spending a gazillion on new players - absolute garbage
36 is normally enough in the Premier League. Maybe that's why we're so shit at the moment, we've forgotten we're in the Championship and think we've got survival sewn up already.
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I think we will be well away from the relegation places. Sadly well away from the play offs too!
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Agree with Ads, no matter how much we slag off our underachievers, the quality in the squad is just too good to hit the bottom three. Yes I know all past history saying I am wrong but no club has ever gone down with such a half decent bunch of players.
At the same time we are a million miles away from sniffing the play offs this season.
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QPR go above us tonight. We're now 17th. Burton look like picking up 3 points too putting them 2 points behind us.
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If we lose to the barcodes and derby then we are right in it
We have got to go to rotherham, wigan, blackburn, burton so yur fate is in our own hands
As for us being too good to go down, dont believe it for a minute, 30 odd points off the top, 22 off the playoffs and 6 off the bottom 3 tells you we could get drawn in
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So that tells me this team needs our support more than ever no booing no negative vibes just total support
Villa till I die
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So that tells me this team needs our support more than ever no booing no negative vibes just total support
Villa till I die
The team does get good support.
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The team is shit, get's supported exactly as any other team as crap as ours would do but without taking in to consideration that they are an embaressment to our name and we've watched numerous piss takers and shit donkeys during the last 7 years.
NO ONE and I mean no one in the football league has been subjected to the humiliating runs and defeats by their team that we as a fan base have.
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What gets me is everyone that beats us is usually on a losing run themselves and promptly carry on losing once they've accounted for us. Happened most of last season and quite frequently in the last eight or so games.
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Tick tock.
Tick tock.
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Best odds down from 50/1 on Sat to 28/1 tonight.
10 points from 14 games but it's all looking a bit Eric Black to me
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i'd take another new manager bounce; He may be as bad as bruce but we could just stay up on a few good results at the start of his reign
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Annoyed I didn't take 50-1, we were never going to win tonight. Oh well, fifty quid at 28-1 means at least I'll have paid for my holiday if the worst happens.
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This team and manager look like they could pull a relegation out of the bag. I cant beleive this is an actual possibility this year, but it is. Jesus.
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We've played 9 teams twice and recorded a single win against Cardiff. 1 win in 18 matches against average championship teams. Relegation staring us in the face yet again
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I'm genuinely worried. Especially looking at the fixtures we have left.
I know it's sacriligious but we're 25/1 to be relegated.
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Ah yes, the comforting familiarity of a relegation battle. The really concerning thing for me is that, Newcastle aside, the teams we've lost to in this run have been mid/lower table teams. Despite the oft repeated cliche that anyone can beat anyone in this league the top 6 this season all look pretty consistent. We've still got to play four of them, two before the next international break.
The key games are against our fellow strugglers so Bristol City and Rotherham are absolutely crucial. Two wins and we can breathe easier. Failure to beat Rotherham will be concerning as pretty much everyone does. Failure to beat City as well leaves us really staring down the barrel.
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In massive trouble now , don't see where a win is coming from.The team is not a team just a bunch on individuals we have zero link up play and the defence is all over the place.
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Extremely concerened, got to take some points from Derby/Bristol/Rotherham, fail in those fixtures and I think we're heading into League 1, anyway got to get to work to get the latest relentless round of piss taking out of the way, happy fuckin days.
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Extremely concerened, got to take some points from Derby/Bristol/Rotherham, fail in those fixtures and I think we're heading into League 1, anyway got to get to work to get the latest relentless round of piss taking out of the way, happy fuckin days.
Darren Bent will he enjoy himself Saturday.
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Extremely concerened, got to take some points from Derby/Bristol/Rotherham, fail in those fixtures and I think we're heading into League 1, anyway got to get to work to get the latest relentless round of piss taking out of the way, happy fuckin days.
Darren Bent will he enjoy himself Saturday.
Yes its written that he will nick a couple
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Erm, would league 1 be more fun.
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Erm, would league 1 be more fun.
Probably not, but at least we'd avoid being publicly humiliated on live TV every couple of weeks.
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Erm, would league 1 be more fun.
Probably not, but at least we'd avoid being publicly humiliated on live TV every couple of weeks.
See, theres always a positive if you look for one.
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Well at least the gap hasn't got closer this evening with Wigan losing to QPR
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Well with the teams we've got left to play we accumulate 25 yes 25 points in the reverse games earlier this season.
Half of that and I reckon we'll be safe....48 and a half points should be enough for 21st place.
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Another 25 points would put us just about top half on the past few seasons.
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Well with the teams we've got left to play we accumulate 25 yes 25 points in the reverse games earlier this season.
25 points is 8 wins and a draw. From 14 matches.
Really?!
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Well with the teams we've got left to play we accumulate 25 yes 25 points in the reverse games earlier this season.
25 points is 8 wins and a draw. From 14 matches.
Really?!
I was only saying if we replicate our results v same opposition earlier this season.
Derby- D
Bristol City- L
Rotherham- W
Sheffield Weds- L
Wigan- W
Norwich- L
QPR- W
Burton- W
Huddersfield- D
Fulham- W
Reading- W
SHA- D
Blackburn- W
Brighton- D
24 points against remaining opposition from earlier this season.
Of course we got most of those points at home and we're shite away so I just halved the points.
Regardless we should be o.k not that it's anywhere near good enough from a league we should be enjoying and winning most weeks eh Adam?
This is more depressing than our premier league years for me.
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Bristol City losing, they have a very tough run in.
Tammy Abraham also injured, won't play v us.
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Good.
We really need all those below us to continually lose, whilst we don't care too much about those above....unless they are playing Villa !
Is a small shout for Fulham in order ? No. OK.
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it is I like Fulham my brother is a life long Villa fan but lives a mile or so from the ground so has adopted them as his second club. They have done very well this year.
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I havent looked at the top of the table for a while. It is good to see Fulham up there. Nice club. Chill fans.
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Well with the teams we've got left to play we accumulate 25 yes 25 points in the reverse games earlier this season.
25 points is 8 wins and a draw. From 14 matches.
Really?!
I was only saying if we replicate our results v same opposition earlier this season.
Derby- D
Bristol City- L
Rotherham- W
Sheffield Weds- L
Wigan- W
Norwich- L
QPR- W
Burton- W
Huddersfield- D
Fulham- W
Reading- W
SHA- D
Blackburn- W
Brighton- D
24 points against remaining opposition from earlier this season.
Of course we got most of those points at home and we're shite away so I just halved the points.
Regardless we should be o.k not that it's anywhere near good enough from a league we should be enjoying and winning most weeks eh Adam?
This is more depressing than our premier league years for me.
you can't really just halve the points though can you? If you're suggesting we won't get any more wins, we're looking realistically at 10 points. Fuck knows how it will go, but current form suggests not too many wins and quite a few losses. Would 10 more points see us safe? I can't honestly believe we're even having to contemplate this after the money we've spent. It's a bad joke.
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If we can get the next three games right, and they're going to be the clash of the over dipped rich tea biscuit versus the soggy wheatbix, then there's a chance that in a weeks time we could have 7 or 9 points under our belts.
Bristol and Rotherham simply have to be put away, no questions about that. Bristol are without their top forward, Abrahams and are on as big a spiral as us. The Derby game holds the key to it; confidence is crucial. We need an Andi style in off your arse in the last minute effort to breathe it into them, as they're good players for this level.
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Well with the teams we've got left to play we accumulate 25 yes 25 points in the reverse games earlier this season.
25 points is 8 wins and a draw. From 14 matches.
Really?!
I was only saying if we replicate our results v same opposition earlier this season.
Derby- D
Bristol City- L
Rotherham- W
Sheffield Weds- L
Wigan- W
Norwich- L
QPR- W
Burton- W
Huddersfield- D
Fulham- W
Reading- W
SHA- D
Blackburn- W
Brighton- D
24 points against remaining opposition from earlier this season.
Of course we got most of those points at home and we're shite away so I just halved the points.
Regardless we should be o.k not that it's anywhere near good enough from a league we should be enjoying and winning most weeks eh Adam?
This is more depressing than our premier league years for me.
you can't really just halve the points though can you? If you're suggesting we won't get any more wins, we're looking realistically at 10 points. Fuck knows how it will go, but current form suggests not too many wins and quite a few losses. Would 10 more points see us safe? I can't honestly believe we're even having to contemplate this after the money we've spent. It's a bad joke.
I never said that.
I just was making the point that we've got a decent record against most of the teams we've got left to play given we've beaten or drawn with most of them earlier in the season.
I don't think it's asking a lot to think we could get a draw at home to Bristol and then beat Rotherham away. Rotherham have 19 fewer points than we do and are already relegated...if we don't beat them Steve Bruce should be sacked on the spot.
Whatever way we look at it I really don't see us going down....I doubt you'll need 50 points and we will surely go on an unbeaten run of 4-5 games between now and the end which will probably be enough on its own.
And just to qualify before you all think I'm a happy clapper or whatever it is nowhere near good enough for the money we've spent and how we should be in this division.
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Bristol City losing, they have a very tough run in.
Tammy Abraham also injured, won't play v us.
Their form is every bit as woeful as ours, so we all know that getting three points in the bag is an absolute MUST when they come to VP. It's ironic that Lee Johnson was being touted (by some) as a possible replacement for RDM: yet a few months later he looks like he could end up with his P45 before Bruce! It's a funny old game innit...
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The way to deal with this is nip it in the bud now, 9 points and no fuck ups from the next 3 matches. Now Jedinak is back watch the results start to go our way.
For the record I'm still looking at 6th place with a John Gregory run to finish the season. It is written in the stars that we will play Newcastle in the final and hand out a damn good thrashing to those northern upstarts.
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is whatever you're on legal? If so, please PM me.
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The way to deal with this is nip it in the bud now, 9 points and no fuck ups from the next 3 matches. Now Jedinak is back watch the results start to go our way.
For the record I'm still looking at 6th place with a John Gregory run to finish the season. It is written in the stars that we will play Newcastle in the final and hand out a damn good thrashing to those northern upstarts.
Nurse we've found him
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The way to deal with this is nip it in the bud now, 9 points and no fuck ups from the next 3 matches. Now Jedinak is back watch the results start to go our way.
For the record I'm still looking at 6th place with a John Gregory run to finish the season. It is written in the stars that we will play Newcastle in the final and hand out a damn good thrashing to those northern upstarts.
Yessssirreeeeee
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The way to deal with this is nip it in the bud now, 9 points and no fuck ups from the next 3 matches. Now Jedinak is back watch the results start to go our way.
For the record I'm still looking at 6th place with a John Gregory run to finish the season. It is written in the stars that we will play Newcastle in the final and hand out a damn good thrashing to those northern upstarts.
Anything's possible.
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I don't think we will get relegated we will do enough to get out of it.
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The way to deal with this is nip it in the bud now, 9 points and no fuck ups from the next 3 matches. Now Jedinak is back watch the results start to go our way.
For the record I'm still looking at 6th place with a John Gregory run to finish the season. It is written in the stars that we will play Newcastle in the final and hand out a damn good thrashing to those northern upstarts.
Anything's possible.
Are they still selling Thunderbird?
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The way to deal with this is nip it in the bud now, 9 points and no fuck ups from the next 3 matches. Now Jedinak is back watch the results start to go our way.
For the record I'm still looking at 6th place with a John Gregory run to finish the season. It is written in the stars that we will play Newcastle in the final and hand out a damn good thrashing to those northern upstarts.
Well said. I love your optimism. UTV!
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14 games left, 42 points to play for, Jedinak back, what could possibly go wrong.
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I want everyone to visualise a hot sunny day in May, you've just arrived at the Green Man beer garden overlooking the Wembley Arch sipping a tepid overpriced lager out of a plastic cup, you duck to avoid a cracked leather caser that is being belted around by other more intoxicated Villans. You look across there is a youth from Kingstanding throwing up by the fence, Ian Taylor has just walked in all smiles and handshakes, he's handing out free headphones and bottles of prosecco. You are thinking back to those miserable days post Newcastle away when you wanted the world to open up and swallow Aston Villa whole, people were getting all concerned about Championship survival, the Bluenoses and everyone one else you know were laughing so hard at us the NHS were calling it the cracked rib crisis of 2017.
A smile then beams across your face, how the hell did we make the Play off Final? Then you realise it was Derby at home, the turning point, the day Bruce's boys finally got their shit together, when every shot went in even that one heading for the corner flag from Alan Hutton until that albino fella diverted it goalwards.
Get ready and prepare for victory, the good times are coming.
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The way to deal with this is nip it in the bud now, 9 points and no fuck ups from the next 3 matches. Now Jedinak is back watch the results start to go our way.
For the record I'm still looking at 6th place with a John Gregory run to finish the season. It is written in the stars that we will play Newcastle in the final and hand out a damn good thrashing to those northern upstarts.
Anything's possible.
Are they still selling Thunderbird?
Night Train Express I think, Des.
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I want everyone to visualise a hot sunny day in May, you've just arrived at the Green Man beer garden overlooking the Wembley Arch sipping a tepid overpriced lager out of a plastic cup, you duck to avoid a cracked leather caser that is being belted around by other more intoxicated Villans. You look across there is a youth from Kingstanding throwing up by the fence, Ian Taylor has just walked in all smiles and handshakes, he's handing out free headphones and bottles of prosecco. You are thinking back to those miserable days post Newcastle away when you wanted the world to open up and swallow Aston Villa whole, people were getting all concerned about Championship survival, the Bluenoses and everyone one else you know were laughing so hard at us the NHS were calling it the cracked rib crisis of 2017.
A smile then beams across your face, how the hell did we make the Play off Final? Then you realise it was Derby at home, the turning point, the day Bruce's boys finally got their shit together, when every shot went in even that one heading for the corner flag from Alan Hutton until that albino fella diverted it goalwards.
Get ready and prepare for victory, the good times are coming.
This has made my day better. Nobody can stop us now. UTV.
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I want everyone to visualise a hot sunny day in May, you've just arrived at the Green Man beer garden overlooking the Wembley Arch sipping a tepid overpriced lager out of a plastic cup, you duck to avoid a cracked leather caser that is being belted around by other more intoxicated Villans. You look across there is a youth from Kingstanding throwing up by the fence, Ian Taylor has just walked in all smiles and handshakes, he's handing out free headphones and bottles of prosecco. You are thinking back to those miserable days post Newcastle away when you wanted the world to open up and swallow Aston Villa whole, people were getting all concerned about Championship survival, the Bluenoses and everyone one else you know were laughing so hard at us the NHS were calling it the cracked rib crisis of 2017.
A smile then beams across your face, how the hell did we make the Play off Final? Then you realise it was Derby at home, the turning point, the day Bruce's boys finally got their shit together, when every shot went in even that one heading for the corner flag from Alan Hutton until that albino fella diverted it goalwards.
Get ready and prepare for victory, the good times are coming.
This has made my day better. Nobody can stop us now.
Sang the Leicester Fans on the last day of last season
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Love the idea that our entire season will be saved thanks to a deflected goal off an albino bloke. You've got me signed up SIR
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I don't think we'll get relegated, we surely are even too good for that. My stock phrase : we haven't gelled yet.
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I Love Old Pink Eyes
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Conjunctivitis is a bastard
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I don't think we'll get relegated, we surely are even too good for that. My stock phrase : we haven't gelled yet.
maybe this will help?
Boil cup of water.
Empty jello powder into a large mixing bowl and add the boiling water.
Continue stirring for two minutes or until the jello is completely dissolved.
Add in the 1/2 cup of cold water and 1/2 cup of vodka.
Stir until mixed and pour into 2oz. cups filled 1/2 to 3/4 of the way.
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In pub full of noses watching dingles versus scum. Plenty of shit on the villa bollocks being shouted but you know what, whatever league we are in, I would rather us demand greatness than settle for being some scummy shithole in bordsley who have no ambition other than finishing above us. We are in the shit but we will improve,we have to improve as compared to the crap midlands clubs around us, I am filled with contempt against most of them (accept Walsall) as they will never match what we have achieved so fuck them as no matter what league we are in, we are villa and we will win when we want!
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Mad to think Wolves are still below us.....God bless Lambert.
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Oddly the scum winning serves us better.....
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Yes it does.
Sad sad times.
Still had a bit of SHA at 11/4 pre match.
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We will be fine.......tis but a flesh wound
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Sha unwashed out in droves cheering replays. It is Solihull however......next year we will win loads in championship/league one/our own minds !!
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Yes it does.
Sad sad times.
Still had a bit of SHA at 11/4 pre match.
Yup.
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Yes it does.
Sad sad times.
Still had a bit of SHA at 11/4 pre match.
Yup.
Looking at the situation objectively, Small Heath would beat us at the moment. Craig Gardner looks light years ahead of anything we have got right now.
Of course, if we bond/click/gel, we we will be the ones that are light years ahead.
It made me laugh that the grey grizzled Small Heath beast got sent off for giving a little love tap to the downed dog head with his paw. George Curtis would have put him into the second row of the terracing.
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I want everyone to visualise a hot sunny day in May, you've just arrived at the Green Man beer garden overlooking the Wembley Arch sipping a tepid overpriced lager out of a plastic cup, you duck to avoid a cracked leather caser that is being belted around by other more intoxicated Villans. You look across there is a youth from Kingstanding throwing up by the fence, Ian Taylor has just walked in all smiles and handshakes, he's handing out free headphones and bottles of prosecco. You are thinking back to those miserable days post Newcastle away when you wanted the world to open up and swallow Aston Villa whole, people were getting all concerned about Championship survival, the Bluenoses and everyone one else you know were laughing so hard at us the NHS were calling it the cracked rib crisis of 2017.
A smile then beams across your face, how the hell did we make the Play off Final? Then you realise it was Derby at home, the turning point, the day Bruce's boys finally got their shit together, when every shot went in even that one heading for the corner flag from Alan Hutton until that albino fella diverted it goalwards.
Get ready and prepare for victory, the good times are coming.
*pumps chest proudly, has a think about it, logs on to Betfair, backs Derby*
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All I can say atr 9:28am on 25/02/2017 is thank goodness for Lambert.
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Mad to think Wolves are still below us.....God bless Lambert.
After they beat Liverpool he was been touted as some mini messiah on WM. That hasnt lasted long though has it. Im ok with the Dingles but it would make me smile if they drop simply to wiipe the smug grin of Lamberts face and his over celebration when they beat us
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I don't give a fuck personally. All I want is to see us prosper.
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I don't give a fuck personally. All I want is to see us prosper.
This. It's about time we moved on and concentrated on our own shit.
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I don't give a fuck personally. All I want is to see us prosper.
This. It's about time we moved on and concentrated on our own shit.
Been a lot of shit to concentrate on
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Hard to sort our shit out when everybody be all up in it. Stay out of our muthafuckin sheeeat ya fuckin shitmoths.
NSFW.
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The way to deal with this is nip it in the bud now, 9 points and no fuck ups from the next 3 matches. Now Jedinak is back watch the results start to go our way.
For the record I'm still looking at 6th place with a John Gregory run to finish the season. It is written in the stars that we will play Newcastle in the final and hand out a damn good thrashing to those northern upstarts.
Anybody want to bet against me? 😂 get in there you Villa boys, we're on our way back!
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The way to deal with this is nip it in the bud now, 9 points and no fuck ups from the next 3 matches. Now Jedinak is back watch the results start to go our way.
For the record I'm still looking at 6th place with a John Gregory run to finish the season. It is written in the stars that we will play Newcastle in the final and hand out a damn good thrashing to those northern upstarts.
Anybody want to bet against me? 😂 get in there you Villa boys, we're on our way back!
I with you brother, it's on
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Can we turn this into relegation watch for our illustrious neighbours SHA? Oh the joy if we beat them on St. George's Day and this contributes to them ending up in Division 3! It's a bit of a long shot, but you never know. I suppose, realistically, there's more chance of the Wolves going down....
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The way to deal with this is nip it in the bud now, 9 points and no fuck ups from the next 3 matches. Now Jedinak is back watch the results start to go our way.
For the record I'm still looking at 6th place with a John Gregory run to finish the season. It is written in the stars that we will play Newcastle in the final and hand out a damn good thrashing to those northern upstarts.
Anybody want to bet against me? 😂 get in there you Villa boys, we're on our way back!
The legend begins.
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Can we turn this into relegation watch for our illustrious neighbours SHA? Oh the joy if we beat them on St. George's Day and this contributes to them ending up in Division 3! It's a bit of a long shot, but you never know.
Anything is possible with that club.
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The way to deal with this is nip it in the bud now, 9 points and no fuck ups from the next 3 matches. Now Jedinak is back watch the results start to go our way.
For the record I'm still looking at 6th place with a John Gregory run to finish the season. It is written in the stars that we will play Newcastle in the final and hand out a damn good thrashing to those northern upstarts.
Anybody want to bet against me? 😂 get in there you Villa boys, we're on our way back!
Erm, yep. £100?
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The way to deal with this is nip it in the bud now, 9 points and no fuck ups from the next 3 matches. Now Jedinak is back watch the results start to go our way.
For the record I'm still looking at 6th place with a John Gregory run to finish the season. It is written in the stars that we will play Newcastle in the final and hand out a damn good thrashing to those northern upstarts.
Anybody want to bet against me? 😂 get in there you Villa boys, we're on our way back!
Erm, yep. £100?
Maybe not, think only a points deduction for punching a horse can stop Newcastle winning the title now so we'll have to play someone else at Wembley.
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Can we turn this into relegation watch for our illustrious neighbours SHA? Oh the joy if we beat them on St. George's Day and this contributes to them ending up in Division 3! It's a bit of a long shot, but you never know. I suppose, realistically, there's more chance of the Wolves going down....
There's every chance of Wolves and Lambert going down.
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Final table as predicted by "football data boffins"
(http://cdn.images.dailystar.co.uk/dynamic/122/photos/84000/900x738/857084.jpg)
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Final table as predicted by "football data boffins"
(http://cdn.images.dailystar.co.uk/dynamic/122/photos/84000/900x738/857084.jpg)
Good news about this is that a further 31 points will get us into the playoffs, according to the boffins.
We don't even have to win every game. 10 wins and a draw should be enough.
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Couldn't we donate 3 points to Blackburn and send the shit down?
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In the last 10 seasons the average points to secure safety has been 49. Highest has been 55, 2 seasons ago when Barnsley finished a point ahead of Peterborough, relegated on 54 points.
Given that Blackburn in 22nd are averaging just over a point a game, we are pretty well safe now. 2 more wins and that will definitely be it.
65 points and 8th or 9th seem a fair target now, as long as Kod can avoid the injury curse.
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Hoping we can help send the Blosers down too.
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I think now that we are set for survival and mid table mediocrity let's watch our noisy neighbours suffering!
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Please make it so.
What makes me laugh was that mind the gap crap and now we're ahead its oh well with the money you've spent I should think so
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Oh I love winding them up with the mind the gap comments to my blue nosed friends on Facebook.
They just cant take any stick back at all. It's so easy!
Then when they answer with anything I simply throw "you're obsessed" back at them too. They hate it!
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Their run is difficult bar Rotherham. I think they are going.
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Can we turn this into relegation watch for our illustrious neighbours SHA? Oh the joy if we beat them on St. George's Day and this contributes to them ending up in Division 3! It's a bit of a long shot, but you never know. I suppose, realistically, there's more chance of the Wolves going down....
There's every chance of Wolves and Lambert going down.
Yep. Heard him on the radio after the game on Saturday saying that they had been 'great' over the past few weeks.
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Their run is difficult bar Rotherham. I think they are going.
It would be an epic, even by their standards, 'achievement' to end up relegated this season. They were 4th when they sacked Rowett in December.
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Their run is difficult bar Rotherham. I think they are going.
It would be an epic, even by their standards, 'achievement' to end up relegated this season. They were 4th when they sacked Rowett in December.
Oh how they used to love singing "There's only one Dougy Ellis " to us, please god McGrath let both team's current respective runs continue so when we play them I can both buy a "I love ❤️ Zola" T shirt and lead the singing of "There's only one Zola! " 🙏
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Their run is difficult bar Rotherham. I think they are going.
It would be an epic, even by their standards, 'achievement' to end up relegated this season. They were 4th when they sacked Rowett in December.
that just beggars belief really when you think about it, doesn't it? Sacking your manager when you're in 4th spot in a league of 24 teams, halfway through the season? They look to be on a downward spiral, but looks as if they'll just about survive this season. I'd have expected them to be bankrupt by now though.
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Their run is difficult bar Rotherham. I think they are going.
It would be an epic, even by their standards, 'achievement' to end up relegated this season. They were 4th when they sacked Rowett in December.
Oh how they used to love singing "There's only one Dougy Ellis " to us, please god McGrath let both team's current respective runs continue so when we play them I can both buy a "I love ❤️ Zola" T shirt and lead the singing of "There's only one Zola! " 🙏
Not enough syllables.
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Can't really add Coventry to this as they are so clearly down already.
Wolves and Forest are both in real danger od the drop. Blues need a couple more wins and draws and they'll be safe. As much as I'd like to see them go down, I can't see it happening (would be delighted to eat my words).
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Their run is difficult bar Rotherham. I think they are going.
It would be an epic, even by their standards, 'achievement' to end up relegated this season. They were 4th when they sacked Rowett in December.
Oh how they used to love singing "There's only one Dougy Ellis " to us, please god McGrath let both team's current respective runs continue so when we play them I can both buy a "I love ❤️ Zola" T shirt and lead the singing of "There's only one Zola! " 🙏
Not enough syllables.
Only One dodgy Zola?
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Their run is difficult bar Rotherham. I think they are going.
It would be an epic, even by their standards, 'achievement' to end up relegated this season. They were 4th when they sacked Rowett in December.
They were 7th
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Their run is difficult bar Rotherham. I think they are going.
It would be an epic, even by their standards, 'achievement' to end up relegated this season. They were 4th when they sacked Rowett in December.
They were 7th
Knowledge.
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Their run is difficult bar Rotherham. I think they are going.
It would be an epic, even by their standards, 'achievement' to end up relegated this season. They were 4th when they sacked Rowett in December.
They were 7th
Knowledge.
It's on BBC sport today with his impending Derby move. Top class information.
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Bristol City, Wolves and Forest are only out of the relegation spots thanks to the points we've gifted them.
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Their run is difficult bar Rotherham. I think they are going.
It would be an epic, even by their standards, 'achievement' to end up relegated this season. They were 4th when they sacked Rowett in December.
Oh how they used to love singing "There's only one Dougy Ellis " to us, please god McGrath let both team's current respective runs continue so when we play them I can both buy a "I love ❤️ Zola" T shirt and lead the singing of "There's only one Zola! " 🙏
Not enough syllables.
Only One dodgy Zola?
Of course, they're obsessed with us you know!
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Can't really add Coventry to this as they are so clearly down already.
Wolves and Forest are both in real danger od the drop. Blues need a couple more wins and draws and they'll be safe. As much as I'd like to see them go down, I can't see it happening (would be delighted to eat my words).
Can't we anyway just for the hell of it? Knowing how much they hate us makes their misfortune all the more entertaining.
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Still think wolves too good to go down whilst the unwashed clearly haven't bought into Zola. Mcclaren to small heath and he has no great recent track record
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No one's ever too good to go down WW
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Their run is difficult bar Rotherham. I think they are going.
It would be an epic, even by their standards, 'achievement' to end up relegated this season. They were 4th when they sacked Rowett in December.
They were 7th
Knowledge.
It's on BBC sport today with his impending Derby move. Top class information.
Correct sir, I checked on stato. Only two points off 4th place Huddersfield though.
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the noses I predict will get 6 points between now and death.
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Still think wolves too good to go down whilst the unwashed clearly haven't bought into Zola. Mcclaren to small heath and he has no great recent track record
Lambert has never relegated a team...so there is always the first time!
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Blues won't go down...they've too many points in the bank already.
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They thought that in 2011.
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the noses I predict will get 6 points between now and death.
Would still be touch and go on 50 points I reckon, their GD is worse than Blackburn and Wigan and Wolves and Bristol City are starting to pick up points now.
Is it just me or do they always seem to get relegated in the seasons when we play them at home in late April?
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A return of the of the once bi-annual relegation party would be most welcome.
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And as usual when he needs a result Lambert finds one which once again promotes the myth of him being a promising manager on the verge of something great.
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Wolves and Blackburn picking up more points raises that safety tally so little more pressure on SHA to respond....
As much as I dislike giving them oxygen I would find it hilarious given how long they've waited for us to be relegated for them to go down the season we've joined them....particularly from their position at xmas and sacking a successful manager.
Would be such a SHA thing to do...come on football gods.....
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And as usual when he needs a result Lambert finds one which once again promotes the myth of him being a promising manager on the verge of something great.
A return of the of the once bi-annual relegation party would be most welcome.
going up, they're going down, they're going up, they're going down...
I dunno who came up with that song, but in pure pisstaking terms, it's perfect.
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with 9 games to go, and still room for improvement, the mathematical calculation of the chance of relegation is now on the agenda. With the exception of Rotherham, who can still mathematically save themselves from relegation but only if half a dozen sides lose every game, the possibilities assuming every side wins every game - sorry this is maths not reality - shows that Villa can get a maximum of 75 points. Other clubs at risk are as follows
club played points max
Villa 37 48 75
Blues 37 44 71
Wolves 36 42 72
Burton 37 41 68
Forest 37 40 67
Blackburn 37 39 66
Bristol 37 38 65
Wigan 37 34 51
Rotherham 37 17 44
Victory at Wigan on Saturday would make it impossible for them to catch VIlla whatever happens. However WIgan has a good defence - better than 10 above the in the table - and Villa are very poor at scoring. 37 goals in 37 games is not good at all. So expect a low scoring draw I think.
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if it were true maths you should equate that some of those teams are playing each other so the end points results are therefore impossible
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Doesn't mean each teams individual maximum points is incorrect, though.
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yes if every game is won, but that table is a mathematical impossibility, we for instance still have to play wigan, blose blackburn and burton all on the list so thats 12 points that can't go on those teams totals.
It's a daft chart
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I accept that there are some teams playing each other, and will adjust after the Wigan game. However to do that exercise needs to have all the fixtures for the division. If anyone else has the time to do this, then feel free.
The exercise of mathematically working out where you stand can be done on day one, but after that you have to take out the matches already played some of which will be relegation clashes.
I don't have a computer so even if I had the time I could not do it. But that is what you need to do.
As a rough guide it works OK. The only team we have nothing to worry about is Rotherham, we played them twice and they can't catch us. But for the rest, the matches with teams below us if they win them then they mathematically gain on us. How this plays needs more than a pocket calculator. Someone out their can do the maths.
But its the top line that matters. With 48 points Villa can still be caught. unlikely, and a win at Wigan makes it less likely. But not impossible as Leicester showed with their great escape.
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Bristol City 2 up so they're closing the gap on SHA.
I think the thing to remember here is all the teams winning below SHA means the points tally to stay up increases.
I bet a few weeks ago them (and us) were thinking 46 points would be enough...at this rate you'll need 50 + points.
We will pass that in the next 3 games I reckon...given the form SHA are in currently, it will be a bit more hard work for them.
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I posted in the Small Heath thread the other day that I think they're going down. Everyone below them seems capable of picking up a win or two all of a sudden. Zola is clueless, their fans are against him and negative towards the team and they can't win a game. Tough run in aswell.
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Like Premier League teams assume 40 points is needed to avoid relegation, I've always thought you need 50 points in the Championship. With 44 points, I would have thought Blues would have too many to get pulled down. They'll sneak above 50 points. There's another 5 teams in the fight and they only have to be better than 4 of them.
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So Bristol City who started tonight in the bottom 3 just three points off them now.
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Massive chance for Fulham tomorrow so you'd expect them to give the Wolves a beating.
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Small Heath have got the worst goal difference down there aswell. Hopefully Newcastle stuff them tomorrow. They've still got to play Burton and Bristol City below them, lose both of them and they're in trouble. Just imagine them coming to us three games from the end of the season hovering just above the relegation zone, we smash them 5-1 again to give them a nudge towards the drop.
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Bristol is the Noses last game of the season. I can see it going down to that with them.
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It's coming home, it's coming home
It's coming
EFL Trophy formerly know as Auto Windscreen Shield is coming home
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Amazing to think just 22 days ago we had 36 points.
I know there's been a lot of games since but Wigan have 34 points and are all but relegated.
Thank goodness we've got our act together over the last three weeks.
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I've just noticed small heath's goal difference is the second worst in the division after Rotherham's.
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Dingles and Lamberk look to be safe.....on the other hand, the noses will be looking over their shoulder after defeat at Brighton on Tuesday night. The 23rd April will interesting as well....
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Also interesting is that we play their relegation rivals Blackburn as our last away game, probably with nothing in it for us. Just saying.
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Also interesting is that we play their relegation rivals Blackburn as our last away game, probably with nothing in it for us. Just saying.
That sir is disgraceful, suggesting that we should throw a match just to relegate our dear neighbours. Shame on you.
Good idea though.
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I'm not suggesting that at all. I'm suggesting it would really piss them off if we lost.
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I'm not suggesting that at all. I'm suggesting it would really piss them off if we lost.
No, they'd still be delighted "cuz da Vile lost".
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Sadly, they still have to play Rotherham and none of the other teams down there do. That three points should be enough to guarantee survival as I don't see each of Blackburn, Bristol City, Forest and Burton all getting to at least 49 points.
If Wigan were to put a miraculous run together and ensure that two, rather than one, relegation spots were in doubt, they might have a chance. I can't see it though.
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Also interesting is that we play their relegation rivals Blackburn as our last away game, probably with nothing in it for us. Just saying.
That sir is disgraceful, suggesting that we should throw a match just to relegate our dear neighbours. Shame on you.
Good idea though.
How very ungallant.
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A positive from yesterday, we're mathematically safe.
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A positive from yesterday, we're mathematically safe.
Any excuse:
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Lose at Blackburn.....
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Coventry are down. That 'we'll be back' thing seems to be taking a while.
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The Blues are going down....The 23rd will be interesting!
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What a joyous occasion it could be, however, I have a feeling we will fuck it up. All Bruces fault.
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If there was one game more, I reckon the Noses would be gone. But I think they will scrape survival just because of the incompetence of others.
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No way will they go down. Wigan or Blackburn have got to make up six points.
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It's only 4 points.
Even if they don't go it's very funny that after the "mind the gap" wankathon they were having they're now struggling to stay up 4 months later.
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Reminds me of the year they started all that Aston Villa relegation party nonsense, only to go down themselves.
Never learn.
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No way will they go down. Wigan or Blackburn have got to make up six points.
It's 4 points from Blackburn who also have a +4 better goal difference.
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Nope it's still 4 points even with the worse goal difference.
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Bloody BBC website, it's still a big gap so late in the season.
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They were 4 points points clear with 4 to play in 2011. 2 of the teams below them were Wigan and Blackburn.
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Blackburn's last 4 games are:
Bristol City (H)
Wolves (A)
Us (H)
Brentford (A).
Can easily see them getting another 7 points from that. Our game will probably be the usual 1-1 away grind (we only just beat them at VP remember with a late goal) and can see them beating Bristol City and Wolves.
Would mean SHA would have to pick up another 4 points to finish above Blackburn at least with their GD.
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Blues will drop - I'm confident!
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I never take any notice of them but I was alerted to their precarious position by my son about an hour ago.
Them dropping to League 1 would be enormously funny.
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Sounds like the Blues players were fighting with each other after the game today. If they loose to Burton on Monday they'll be on the cliff edge.
Only that shower of shite could sack the manager who gets them to a comfortable position, replace him with a known failure like Zola & end up relegated.
We could put a couple of nails in their coffin too, which would be brilliant.
Sadly, I think they'll scrape enough points to be ok.
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Sounds like the Blues players were fighting with each other after the game today. If they loose to Burton on Monday they'll be on the cliff edge.
Only that shower of shite could sack the manager who gets them to a comfortable position, replace him with a known failure like Zola & end up relegated.
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We could put a couple of nails in their coffin too, which would be brilliant.
Sadly, I think they'll scrape enough points to be ok.
The natural balance of things is that we are the team of the Midlands. I don't give a fuck about Blues, Coventry, Albion or any of those flagellant twats providing we are looking down on them.
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Birmingham City's dire 1-1 draw at Rotherham was marred by unsavoury scenes at the end following a confrontation between Blues players.
Arguments broke out as the Birmingham players warmed down in the centre circle in which Emilio Nsue had to be physically restrained.
Lukas Jutkiewicz and Paul Robinson tried to act as peacemakers before first team coach Gabriele Cioffi frog-marched the angry Nsue off the field as he continued to shout.
The argument continued once the team was back inside the dressing room with raised voices clearly heard from outside.
And there was frustration in the stands too with many of the 2,600 Birmingham City supporters calling for Gianfranco Zola to be removed as manager.
There were also disagreements between Blues fans, who stuck behind their team despite a really disappointing performance.
But chants of 'We want Zola out' clearly divided some travelling Bluenoses causing police to intervene.
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Birmingham City's dire 1-1 draw at Rotherham was marred by unsavoury scenes at the end following a confrontation between Blues players.
Arguments broke out as the Birmingham players warmed down in the centre circle in which Emilio Nsue had to be physically restrained.
Lukas Jutkiewicz and Paul Robinson tried to act as peacemakers before first team coach Gabriele Cioffi frog-marched the angry Nsue off the field as he continued to shout.
The argument continued once the team was back inside the dressing room with raised voices clearly heard from outside.
And there was frustration in the stands too with many of the 2,600 Birmingham City supporters calling for Gianfranco Zola to be removed as manager.
There were also disagreements between Blues fans, who stuck behind their team despite a really disappointing performance.
But chants of 'We want Zola out' clearly divided some travelling Bluenoses causing police to intervene.
Lovely stuff!
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Kodjia v 68 year old Paul Robinson is going to be hilarious stuff.
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Kodjia v 68 year old Paul Robinson is going to be hilarious stuff.
Until Donkey Robinson cripples him permanently in the first 10 minutes....
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Never, ever want Villa to lose, but Blackburn away will be interesting if blues lose thier next 2 games.
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I won't ever want us to lose, but if we did, & it sent them down, I think it might be a while before I stopped laughing.
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serious question leaving Wolves out of the equation - do the other West Midland teams match our fan base (combined).
I have a bad feeling about Sunday week, they are just horrible and will treat the match like America V North Korea with us being the good guys and them the downtrodden North Koreans.
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Fingers crossed Zola is still in charge then!
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They looked dreadful when we played them in October -as bad a team as I've seen in this division.
Just a shame we decided to play for a draw despite being 1-0 up.
Not surprised they are down there on that showing. The real surprise is they were as high as they were at the time.
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I just hope if we go 1-0 up we don't sit back and invite them back into the game. It's a dangerous tactic anyway, never mind in a derby game. Hopefully it's the one game this season where our players throw the shackles off and the atmosphere drives them on to score 3 or 4.
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I don't care about small heath, they don't care about me, all I care about is AVFC. Fuck em.
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Wanting us to lose because of them is stooping to their level. Rather crow that they only survived because of us and that they should be grateful. They will end up wishing they had gone down such is the hatred.
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Wanting us to lose because of them is stooping to their level. Rather crow that they only survived because of us and that they should be grateful. They will end up wishing they had gone down such is the hatred.
You're right of course but if we lose, their demise would be an acceptable fringe benefit. And we wouldn't have to play them next season.
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I too would never will us on to lose but surely given the ridiculous amount of games we've lost since 2010 another one wouldn't register. So many I've wanted us to win this season and last season and the one before we've meekly lost.
Would be a shrug of the shoulders and then a massive chuckle if it helps relegate SHA a week later.
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If Small Heath lose or draw Monday and we beat them next week that's my fancy dress sorted for Blackburn away, a Blackburn shirt. No being serious it's a no brainer for me, the game has nothing riding on it for us so if us losing helped send Small Heath down then it has to be done. Imagine if us beating Blackburn kept SHA up by a point, we'd never hear the end of it.
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If Small Heath lose or draw Monday and we beat them next week that's my fancy dress sorted for Blackburn away, a Blackburn shirt. No being serious it's a no brainer for me, the game has nothing riding on it for us so if us losing helped send Small Heath down then it has to be done. Imagine if us beating Blackburn kept SHA up by a point, we'd never hear the end of it.
I agree, it's not an obsession, I'd just rather not play them at all. It's unpleasant.
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I want us to go into every game trying to win it, including that Blackburn game. If we did end up losing however and it sent them down, then so be it. I'd rather we win and they sent themselves down though.
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Can't wish a Villa defeat , even if it helps send down small heath.
Unlike the Bitters from Sandwell , who had a knack of losing regularly to teams around us in the recent relegation battles in the Premiership.
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They looked dreadful when we played them in October -as bad a team as I've seen in this division.
Just a shame we decided to play for a draw despite being 1-0 up.
Not surprised they are down there on that showing. The real surprise is they were as high as they were at the time.
Really? I thought we were lucky to draw
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Them staying up by a point because we beat Blackburn would kill them inside. I'll leave wanting to lose to screw up a 'rival' to small time mentality clubs like the bitters and sha.
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Bollocks! Breaking bad news. Zola resigns.
Terrible terrible news
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With a freebie next week for them, they'll be safe.
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Bollocks! Breaking bad news. Zola resigns.
Terrible terrible news
Quick - give `em Bruce back before next weekend !
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Great, we get to bait 'arry again.
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He's complained about the abuse he's had at VP before, wait until Sunday Churchill. I actually think this appointment will fire our crowd up even more.
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After years of being run by crooks, it's great to see that lot down the road have finally gone legit with their latest appointment. The gift that keeps on giving.
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Wanting us to lose because of them is stooping to their level. Rather crow that they only survived because of us and that they should be grateful. They will end up wishing they had gone down such is the hatred.
Agreed.
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After years of being run by crooks, it's great to see that lot down the road have finally gone legit with their latest appointment. The gift that keeps on giving.
I think the circle is now complete.
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Reddknapp has been on Talk Sport already being bigged up by the two twats, Quinn and Brazil, Redknapp just said the Huddersfield and Bristol City games will be difficult, so he thinks Villa will be easy, I hope Bruce and the players heard that.
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Rednapp and Blues a perfect match. Having said that I think he'll do enough to keep them up, just.
If you could pick someone to bankrupt a club in a short time there's no better man.
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Give them a good hiding, then lose 5-0 to Blackburn, it's the best we can hope for from this miserable season 😎
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Bet Sky are kicking themselves that it's not on the box now.
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Sod them being upset about staying up because of us beating Blackburn. I couldn't give a shite how they feel about it. I know how I'd feel seeing those feckers relegated. Get them down.
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Give them a good hiding, then lose 5-0 to Blackburn, it's the best we can hope for from this miserable season 😎
This.
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Sod them being upset about staying up because of us beating Blackburn. I couldn't give a shite how they feel about it. I know how I'd feel seeing those feckers relegated. Get them down.
Amen.
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Give them a good hiding, then lose 5-0 to Blackburn, it's the best we can hope for from this miserable season 😎
I really don't care what happens to them however I do care that we don't lose a match and definitely not lose a match 5-0.
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I can see Blackburn staying up, but at the expense of Forest. They've only won twice since beating us over 2 months ago. Although a tad bizarrely, those 2 wins were pretty comfortable ones over Brighton and Huddersfield.
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Perfect scenario is we beat them on Sunday, loose to Blackburn & McCormack scores a winning goal for Forest in 4th minute of injury time on the last day.
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Presuming that 51pts will be enough to keep Bristol and Burton up on goal difference, and both Rotherham and Wigan (barring some kind of miracle!) are relegated this is how it stands for final relegation place...
19. QPR: 50pts (-12)
20. Forest: 48pts (-11)
21: Blose: 47pts (-21)
22. Blackburn: 45pts (-15)
Hopefully this will still be the picture after our game against the Blue Scum tomorrow.
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Presuming that 51pts will be enough to keep Bristol and Burton up on goal difference, and both Rotherham and Wigan (barring some kind of miracle!) are relegated this is how it stands for final relegation place...
19. QPR: 50pts (-12)
20. Forest: 48pts (-11)
21: Blose: 47pts (-21)
22. Blackburn: 45pts (-15)
Hopefully this will still be the picture after our game against the Blue Scum tomorrow.
If it isnt Blose and I think they will survive, it would be great if QPR and Holloway went down instead
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Small Heath have the worst goal difference in the league (bar Rotherham). They deserve to go down.
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Would've preferred Bristol to just draw today....likely means them at home to SHA on the last day will be a nothing game now for them.
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There's always a team every year who have never figured in the bottom three but come last day of the season their form finally places them there.....Here's hoping it's Small Heath's turn again !
And I know we never set out to hope our team lose but so long as we have won tomorrow then I'm all for being strategic in relation to our next season. Two of our toughest games in our quest to escape the second tier would be against our local rivals
so if we can avoid it then all well and good. It's been a long season and I think a few of our youngsters need a run out ;)
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So, lose to Blackburn?
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I have never wanted us to lose a game.
Quite so much.
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To be honest if we play like we did today for the first hour we probably won't have to try to lose , we just will.
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To be honest if we play like we did today for the first hour we probably won't have to try to lose , we just will.
But funnily enough we didn't actually lose today.
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I know, which just shows how shit they are. I'd prefer us and Huddersfield to win next week then they go down at the real BCFC when they lose and Blackburn beat Brentford.
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Dean Smith knows his duty.
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Although Blackburn are the better team in my opinion (if that makes any sense) Blues will stay up - its harder being in Blackburn's spot than one or two places above. More pressure.
Just goes to show what a good job Rowett did at the Sty. Even if he is a bit of an anti football type manager.
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Dean Smith knows his duty.
He most definitely does.
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It would hardly be a massive shock if we get turned over next week. We hardly created anything today and could barely get up for a local derby.
That and our wretched away form.
I thought Blackburn played pretty well at VP and were unlucky to lose although Kodjia back will obviously give us more threat.
It will probably be the usual 1-1 like at Burton recently.
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Dean Smith knows his duty.
He most definitely does.
Sink them.
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I've just stuck some money on Blackburn to go down. I'm terrible at betting.
You can all thank me later!
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Blues will drop - I'm confident!
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I'm still sticking to my prediction on 14th April......
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Do you think it's dawned on the noses that they actually need Villa to do them a favour?
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I've just stuck some money on Blackburn to go down. I'm terrible at betting.
You can all thank me later!
We nust need Dave to pop up saying what a certainty it is for Blackburn to go down. 😀
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Whenever I wear my 1957 Cup final shirt we always lose. Always. I'll be wearing it next Saturday.
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They're that thick over in Small Heath that they probably still want us to lose against Blackburn.
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So it's as you were with 2 games to go except the Blue Scum have one less GD...
19. QPR: 50pts (-12)
20. Forest: 48pts (-11)
21: Blose: 47pts (-22)
22. Blackburn: 45pts (-15)
Remaining fixtures:
QPR
vs Forest (H)
vs Norwich (A)
Forest
vs QPR (A)
vs Ipswich (H)
Blose
vs Huddersfield (H)
vs Bristol City (A)
Blackburn
vs Villa (H)
vs Brentford (A)
Both Huddersfield and Blackburn need results if they are to secure a playoff spot or avoid relegation respectively.
Forest and QPR aren't safe yet, but whatever happens, it looks as though it's going to the final game of the season where both Bristol and Brentford have nothing to play for (and in fact, neither do Norwich or Ipswich).
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Can't see them going down
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Small Heath will draw with Huddersfield.
Blackburn will draw v us.
Small Heath will draw at Bristol City.
Blackburn will win at Brentford.
Small Heath go down on goal difference. Beautiful.
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Small Heath will draw with Huddersfield.
Blackburn will draw v us.
Small Heath will draw at Bristol City.
Blackburn will win at Brentford.
Small Heath go down on goal difference. Beautiful.
Blackburn will beat us after we play a youth team 😙
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Small Heath will draw with Huddersfield.
Blackburn will draw v us.
Small Heath will draw at Bristol City.
Blackburn will win at Brentford.
Small Heath go down on goal difference. Beautiful.
Blackburn will beat us after we play a youth team 😙
Does this calculation take into account the moral victory points Blose got yesterday? How many was it they were awarded again?
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Huddersfield will surely rest their best players now for the play offs,and Bristol city are safe now so I can see them staying up unfortunately.
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Huddersfield will surely rest their best players now for the play offs,and Bristol city are safe now so I can see them staying up unfortunately.
The higher in the play off places you finish, the more advantageous the draw.
The top 2 teams play their 2nd leg at home, and the 3rd placed team play the 6th placed team. Huddersfield will keep pushing.
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Huddersfield will surely rest their best players now for the play offs,and Bristol city are safe now so I can see them staying up unfortunately.
The higher in the play off places you finish, the more advantageous the draw.
The top 2 teams play their 2nd leg at home, and the 3rd placed team play the 6th placed team. Huddersfield will keep pushing.
I agree that being at home 2nd leg could be an advantage however I don't think it makes that much difference who you play by that stage of the season. It's a bit of a lottery as the 3rd placed team rarely go up. In fact you could argue that the team to avoid on current form are Fulham, who could well finish 6th.
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Unless they don't want to play the 6th placed team which is quite possible given the current occupants of that place are the league's form team, Fulham, who just hammered Huddersfield away 4-1 on Saturday!
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I doubt any team in the play-offs is thinking 'I hope we don't have to play x'.
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Why not? Fulham are on fire and the others aren't.
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When you're winning enough to have made the play-offs in the first place you usually fancy yourselves against any of the others. The idea of being at home in the second leg is probably the more attractive proposition.
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With 6 points in the bag from 6 games I am confident of getting 44 from remaining 40 matches however I recognise that that is more than 1 point per game.
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would 50 keep us up based on the last couple of years?
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We're not being relegated so I wouldn't worry yourself.
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Cheer up, we're only 4 points off the playoffs!
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A shit goalkeeper and no defensive cover and dropping like a stone, is it possible that League One football is realistic for next season?
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No, we'll make the play offs
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No, we'll make the play offs
I admire your positivity. I think we'll be stuck in the middle.
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A shit goalkeeper and no defensive cover and dropping like a stone, is it possible that League One football is realistic for next season?
We've only lost three home games since we've been down here I think. Home points will keep us well clear of the bottom 3.
However constant away defeats will stop any sort of play off bid. We're the standard mid table team I'm afraid.
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6pts above relegation and 7pts away from playoffs. Unless anyone really thinks we’re as bad as the likes of Rotherham, Reading, Hull or Ipswich then realistically there’s no need for this overly pessimistic thread to be open. We won’t be getting relegated any time soon...not from the Championship at least!
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The table makes sorry reading tonight ...... Smith really has got his work cut out - Small Heath 9th and 5 points above us .... they will be relishing their trip across the City whilst our sorry lot will no doubt be lacking in confidence , unless Smith is some kind of miracle worker .... I appreciate he has only had days with the squad but the games are relentless in this league ....right now it's hard to imagine us being there or thereabouts in May ..maybe we will limp along until January and somehow turn things around with an influx of Smith type players - getting rid of the dross is gonna take some doing - glass very much half empty at this time
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If anyone seriously thinks we'll be going down then get betting on it, i'd fancy you could get at least 33/1 and probably a fair bit more.
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Oh no we were here 12 months ago. Why does this keep happening to us? Personally I think we will pick up enough but not enough for play offs....sadly.
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If anyone seriously thinks we'll be going down then get betting on it, i'd fancy you could get at least 33/1 and probably a fair bit more.
Best odds 50/1 with Unibet. I still wouldn't touch it. We aren't going down, we will finish midtable at worst. Playoffs and even automatic promotion are still possible.
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We can get better. Slightly too late for it to be worth anything, but it will happen all the same.
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I think top six is achievable for most teams in the division if they can get a run going. We need to go on a good run and start picking up some wins as soon as possible and then do some clever transfer business in January.
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This league is so mediocre atm that i'm not sure anyone outside of the top 6 is safe yet. Even our squad with no defence is currently 7 points off a play-off place - even the form teams in the division are blose and QPR ffs. I reckon we could finish anywhere between 3rd and 21st personally. We're just too shite to go up automatically and not quite shit enough to go down,