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Title: Players to go??????
Post by: eddiemunster on January 26, 2017, 06:25:30 PM
With all of the signings,who do you think will be sold/released between now and the end of the season?

Title: Re: Players to go??????
Post by: cheltenhamlion on January 26, 2017, 06:30:41 PM
The two 50% players in the latest doctor Tone equation will be Ayew and Pointy I reckon.

We still want a forward.
Title: Re: Players to go??????
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on January 26, 2017, 06:33:27 PM


Gabby
Richards
Hutton
McCormack
Westwood

take yer pick!
Title: Re: Players to go??????
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on January 26, 2017, 06:36:44 PM
Gabby - end of season.
Hutton - end of season.
McCormack - loan before end of this window.
Westwood - to Wolves this window.
Richards - end of season.
Title: Re: Players to go??????
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 26, 2017, 06:39:11 PM
I think we'll keep Hutton, out of contract at the end of the season and may be a bit early for Bree to start for the rest of the season. I can see us trying to shift Richards (a call to Moyes would be an idea) and I think we'll try and move one of GG or Westwood out, even if it's just a loan. McCormack is an obvious one to go if anyone will have him.
Title: Re: Players to go??????
Post by: Virgil Caine on January 26, 2017, 06:45:39 PM
Kozak (released from contract)
GG( loan)
Westwood (loan)
Richards (poss China?)
RHM (signs new contract but goes on loan to end of season)
Sanchez( bought by club on loan at - end of season)
Veretout (as above)
Gil (as above)
Henry Cowans (end of season)
Calder (released)
McCormack- end of season but we will take a financial hit with this one I suspect
Title: Re: Players to go??????
Post by: Mellin on January 26, 2017, 06:49:09 PM
China have a limit of three foreign nationals per team. Unfortunately I can't see any of them wasting one of those spots on Micah Richards.
Title: Re: Players to go??????
Post by: oswald funkletrumpet on January 26, 2017, 06:49:57 PM
Gabby - end of season.
Hutton - end of season.
McCormack - loan before end of this window.
Westwood - to Wolves this window.
Richards - end of season.

Hasnt gabby got another season?

i reckon pointy to wolves, this window hopefully
Title: Re: Players to go??????
Post by: LeeB on January 26, 2017, 06:56:58 PM
China have a limit of three foreign nationals per team. Unfortunately I can't see any of them wasting one of those spots on Micah Richards.
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Gabby - end of season.
Hutton - end of season.
McCormack - loan before end of this window.
Westwood - to Wolves this window.
Richards - end of season.

Hasnt gabby got another season?

i reckon pointy to wolves, this window hopefully

We should insist he only leaves if it's to go to one of our promotion rivals.
Title: Re: Players to go??????
Post by: Clampy on January 26, 2017, 07:03:42 PM
Not sure exactly who, but i'd let go two for now and the rest in the summer. Wouldn't surprise me to see Bacuna or Tshibola go before the window closes.
Title: Re: Players to go??????
Post by: Cliftonville Villain on January 26, 2017, 07:33:51 PM
It's the way of the world...it's full of morons earning big money with no discernible talents or abilities. Micah Richards is a nailed on cert to end up in China on huge money. Anyone here with even a modicum of passing interest in football wouldn't touch him with a bargepole. But here's hoping...
Title: Re: Players to go??????
Post by: godzvilla on January 26, 2017, 07:35:44 PM
Kozak (released from contract)
GG( loan)
Westwood (loan)
Richards (poss China?)
RHM (signs new contract but goes on loan to end of season)
Sanchez( bought by club on loan at - end of season)
Veretout (as above)
Gil (as above)
Henry Cowans (end of season)
Calder (released)
McCormack- end of season but we will take a financial hit with this one I suspect

Can't see them parting with Calder, who I've always rated for some obscure reason ..... he's probably the only real cover we have at Left Back , he's been playing well there recently for the U23s....of course  we may buy someone in, and who'd bet against that right now?!.
Can't really argue with the rest though....unless the Gabby-Bruce bromance contiues  awhile...............Godzvilla!
Title: Re: Players to go??????
Post by: QuintonVilla on January 26, 2017, 07:46:53 PM
Westwood leaving would be better than any signing we've made.
Title: Re: Players to go??????
Post by: VinnieChase84 on January 26, 2017, 07:49:00 PM
Westwood to burnley may be an option now that marney is out for the season. 🙏🏻
Title: Re: Players to go??????
Post by: oswald funkletrumpet on January 26, 2017, 07:52:20 PM
Westwood to burnley may be an option now that marney is out for the season. 🙏🏻

Burnley was made up, no way would dyche want him
Title: Re: Players to go??????
Post by: chrisw1 on January 26, 2017, 07:54:00 PM
Westwood leaving would be better than any signing we've made.
Why?  How would losing a squad player help us more than signing good quality players?
Title: Re: Players to go??????
Post by: Dave P on January 26, 2017, 08:07:13 PM
China have a limit of three foreign nationals per team. Unfortunately I can't see any of them wasting one of those spots on Micah Richards.

Can't we change his name to Mi Cha and pretend he's Chinese?
Title: Re: Players to go??????
Post by: Matt Collins on January 26, 2017, 09:38:24 PM
Westwood leaving would be better than any signing we've made.
Why?  How would losing a squad player help us more than signing good quality players?

The level of obsession over Westwood is ridiculous
Title: Re: Players to go??????
Post by: johnny from donny on January 26, 2017, 10:55:12 PM
Has Westwood ever shown a lack of effort or bad attitude?

How about loaning him out to get him out of the firing line and gain some confidence?
Title: Re: Players to go??????
Post by: Steve67 on January 26, 2017, 10:58:04 PM
Grealish being linked with Middlesbrough tonight.
Title: Re: Players to go??????
Post by: olaftab on January 26, 2017, 11:00:38 PM
We should insist he only leaves if it's to go to one of our promotion rivals.
However we are not in a position to have promotion rivals just yet.
Title: Re: Players to go??????
Post by: West Derby Villan on January 26, 2017, 11:01:09 PM
Grealish maybe naive, he's not fuckin stupid
Title: Re: Players to go??????
Post by: BC Villain on January 26, 2017, 11:01:24 PM
Has Westwood ever shown a lack of effort or bad attitude?

How about loaning him out to get him out of the firing line and gain some confidence?

Westwood isn't the best player, but I don't think he could ever be accused of taking the piss as opposed the the likes of last seasonseason troublemakers.
Title: Re: Players to go??????
Post by: Axl Rose on January 26, 2017, 11:20:41 PM


Gabby
Richards
Hutton
McCormack
Westwood

take yer pick!

This x 1,000,000
Title: Re: Players to go??????
Post by: itbrvilla on January 26, 2017, 11:36:35 PM
Westwood leaving would be better than any signing we've made.
Have to agree. Can't funcking stand him
Title: Re: Players to go??????
Post by: Jimbo on January 26, 2017, 11:44:02 PM
Westwood's departure will take some of the stench of failure and underachievement of the last few years with him. Let's get rid and try to forget he ever pulled on the shirt.
Title: Re: Players to go??????
Post by: West Derby Villan on January 26, 2017, 11:46:15 PM
Just like Grealish, Westwood will benefit from the incoming midfielders. Why get rid of an experienced squad player unless we need to. When our club doesn't need him, i.e., has a better squad player let him go but until then he is, imo, an asset and has never disrespected our club through the not to distant "dark times".
Title: Re: Players to go??????
Post by: Jimbo on January 26, 2017, 11:51:12 PM
The difference is Grealish clearly has lots of raw talent, whereas Westwood has never shown anything other than being able to run around a lot and 'keep the ball moving'. Let's be honest, he can barely kick the thing. Let him drop to his natural level, League One, without us.
Title: Re: Players to go??????
Post by: West Derby Villan on January 26, 2017, 11:53:40 PM
The difference is Grealish clearly has lots of raw talent, whereas Westwood has never shown anything other than being able to run around a lot and 'keep the ball moving'. Let's be honest, he can barely kick the thing. Let him drop to his natural level, League One, without us.

I don't disagree at all Jimbo, but keep him until an improvement comes along
Title: Re: Players to go??????
Post by: Jimbo on January 27, 2017, 12:04:08 AM
The way I see it, we've just signed three midfielders. We already have Gardner, Tshibola and Jedinak, and Adomah and Grealish going forward. We don't need Westwood. Arguably, we've never needed him.
Title: Re: Players to go??????
Post by: Fasth56 on January 27, 2017, 12:06:33 AM
The difference is Grealish clearly has lots of raw talent, whereas Westwood has never shown anything other than being able to run around a lot and 'keep the ball moving'. Let's be honest, he can barely kick the thing. Let him drop to his natural level, League One, without us.

I don't disagree at all Jimbo, but keep him until an improvement comes along

Westwood, whenever he has played has put a shift in,unlike Richards who hasn't  been known to run around
Title: Re: Players to go??????
Post by: Tokyo Sexwhale on January 27, 2017, 01:09:30 AM
It would be great if we could flog and get a fee for some of our loan players - Gil, Sanchez, Verertout.  There must be £7-£10m locked up in those three.

Flog McCormack - if we can get more than £7m for him that would be a result.

Westwood, Tshibola and Gardner - at least 2 of those are surplus to requirements now.

Richards if we can get anything for him

I doubt we can shift Agbonlahor unfortunately.

I wouldn't be displeased if Ayew left, if we could replace him with a decent striker/attacking midfielder.


To have a rounded squad, we'd need a back-up left back, a back-up centre back (or Toner if he's ready), and a striker, as we're fucked if Kodjia gets injured/suspended. 
Title: Re: Players to go??????
Post by: robbo1874 on January 27, 2017, 02:08:14 AM
Gabby - end of season.
Hutton - end of season.
McCormack - loan before end of this window.
Westwood - to Wolves this window.
Richards - end of season.
not sure when most of those players' contracts are up apart from Gabby, but I can't see any of them moving voluntarily due to the money they'll be losing out on by moving to inevitably lesser paying clubs. I suppose that's what the parachute payment was designed for. Maybe Westwood would go possibly.
Title: Re: Players to go??????
Post by: Comrade Blitz on January 27, 2017, 02:13:11 AM
Atlanta of the MLS signed Guzan - flog the rest of the twats this way!
Title: Re: Players to go??????
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 27, 2017, 02:17:48 AM
Hutton and Kozak are the ones up this summer.
Title: Re: Players to go??????
Post by: Matt C on January 27, 2017, 05:23:12 AM


Gabby
Richards
Hutton
McCormack
Westwood

take yer pick!

Christ, what list - prospective clubs form an orderly queue.
Title: Re: Players to go??????
Post by: Mister E on January 27, 2017, 07:08:55 AM
This window, I think Ayew and McCormack may go. RHM will stay and make an important contribution in the final 15 games.
In the summer, we'll see the last of the deadwood get swept away.
Title: Re: Players to go??????
Post by: Jimbo on January 27, 2017, 08:15:52 AM
The difference is Grealish clearly has lots of raw talent, whereas Westwood has never shown anything other than being able to run around a lot and 'keep the ball moving'. Let's be honest, he can barely kick the thing. Let him drop to his natural level, League One, without us.

I don't disagree at all Jimbo, but keep him until an improvement comes along

Westwood, whenever he has played has put a shift in,unlike Richards who hasn't  been known to run around


This is very true. When it comes to running around, Westwood is the leader in the field.

I can't believe some would sooner see Ayew shifted out, a player who can actually kick a football.
Title: Re: Players to go??????
Post by: Tony Erdington on January 27, 2017, 08:20:55 AM
The difference is Grealish clearly has lots of raw talent, whereas Westwood has never shown anything other than being able to run around a lot and 'keep the ball moving'. Let's be honest, he can barely kick the thing. Let him drop to his natural level, League One, without us.

I don't disagree at all Jimbo, but keep him until an improvement comes along

Westwood, whenever he has played has put a shift in,unlike Richards who hasn't  been known to run around


Westwood / shift that is from a parallel universe. the bloke is tripe, last Saturday he did what? for their second goal where was he , BEHIND THE DEFENCE!!
Title: Re: Players to go??????
Post by: Villafirst on January 27, 2017, 08:25:49 AM
It would be great if we could flog and get a fee for some of our loan players - Gil, Sanchez, Verertout.  There must be £7-£10m locked up in those three.

Flog McCormack - if we can get more than £7m for him that would be a result.

Westwood, Tshibola and Gardner - at least 2 of those are surplus to requirements now.

Richards if we can get anything for him

I doubt we can shift Agbonlahor unfortunately.

I wouldn't be displeased if Ayew left, if we could replace him with a decent striker/attacking midfielder.


To have a rounded squad, we'd need a back-up left back, a back-up centre back (or Toner if he's ready), and a striker, as we're fucked if Kodjia gets injured/suspended. 

No way Tshibola! Far too early. Still very young and raw but lots of potential.
Title: Re: Players to go??????
Post by: cheltenhamlion on January 27, 2017, 08:28:39 AM
The difference is Grealish clearly has lots of raw talent, whereas Westwood has never shown anything other than being able to run around a lot and 'keep the ball moving'. Let's be honest, he can barely kick the thing. Let him drop to his natural level, League One, without us.

I don't disagree at all Jimbo, but keep him until an improvement comes along

Westwood, whenever he has played has put a shift in,unlike Richards who hasn't  been known to run around


This is very true. When it comes to running around, Westwood is the leader in the field.

I can't believe some would sooner see Ayew shifted out, a player who can actually kick a football.

I just don't think Bruce particularly rates him. If he won't play much then we might as well switch him for someone who will get a regular game.
Title: Re: Players to go??????
Post by: UK Redsox on January 27, 2017, 08:30:57 AM
Micah to a second tier club in the American Colonies

I think that Pointy will want to go somewhere and play regularly

I think that McCafu will start ahead of Bree for the rest of the season. If RDL's recovery is progressing ok, I expect that Hutton will leave in the summer. However, if RDL won't be back for the start of next season, I can see McCafu getting a one year extension (and then heading to Rangers).

Tish & RHM to go out on loan

GG to stay as backup but then be sold in the summer

The one I'd try to cash in on is Ayew. He's just a glorified Zog to me

Can't see anyone wanting RM and Gabby seems to be getting (or at lease Steve thinks that he's getting) his act together.
Title: Re: Players to go??????
Post by: Jimbo on January 27, 2017, 08:39:38 AM
Like Grealish, I'd like to see what Ayew can do with decent players around him. He was our best player last season (not difficult, but he showed signs of what he could be) and this season he's been playing in a very unsettled side. I'd keep him for now.
Title: Re: Players to go??????
Post by: chrisw1 on January 27, 2017, 09:17:35 AM
Like Grealish, I'd like to see what Ayew can do with decent players around him. He was our best player last season (not difficult, but he showed signs of what he could be) and this season he's been playing in a very unsettled side. I'd keep him for now.
Yep, a shame to lose players of this quality just as we start to (hopefully) develop a better functioning team.
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