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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: trevor fisher on January 15, 2017, 10:39:08 AM

Title: lambert versus bruce
Post by: trevor fisher on January 15, 2017, 10:39:08 AM
the wolves match showed a contrast between Lambert and Bruce that suggested deeper problems than we thought. Lambert was ten years younger than he looked at Villa. His team was a real unit and without spending loads of money they played a brand of football far better than when they came to Villa - and were unlucky not to win in Bruce's first game in charge.

Bruce alas looked like Lambert did before he left - worried, deeply troubled and at a loss to know what was going on. Indeed, all Villa managers look like this after a few months. What is wrong with our club? If Lambert on the back of his last few results gets WOlves higher up the table than Villa can achieve the question is unavoidable - are Villa unmanageable?
Title: Re: lambert versus bruce
Post by: TheMalandro on January 15, 2017, 10:45:12 AM
Lambert hasn't had time to ruin Wolves.
Title: Re: lambert versus bruce
Post by: aj2k77 on January 15, 2017, 10:52:39 AM
The Wolves and Villa jobs are on a totally different level. He was shit for us and a liar to boot.
Title: Re: lambert versus bruce
Post by: OzVilla on January 15, 2017, 10:54:31 AM
Lambert was a flippin disaster and a main part of the reason we are where we are.

Title: Re: lambert versus bruce
Post by: Villafirst on January 15, 2017, 10:57:30 AM
Lambert was a flippin disaster and a main part of the reason we are where we are.



Lerner is the main culprit as to where we stand today.
Title: Re: lambert versus bruce
Post by: aj2k77 on January 15, 2017, 11:00:02 AM
Lambert was a flippin disaster and a main part of the reason we are where we are.



Lerner is the main culprit as to where we stand today.

Lambert took the Lerner dollar and fronted up for him, lying and allowing him to hide in the back ground doing nothing. Lerner is the true culprit, criminal negligence at a footballing level. Lambert has a part to play in this corpse we currently have as a club.
Title: Re: lambert versus bruce
Post by: OzVilla on January 15, 2017, 11:01:18 AM
Lambert was a flippin disaster and a main part of the reason we are where we are.



Lerner is the main culprit as to where we stand today.

I agree that Lerner was the number 1 culprit but closely followed by both Lambert and Fox.

As someone so perfectly put it on here recently, those three were an "axis of stupidity".
Title: Re: lambert versus bruce
Post by: CT on January 15, 2017, 11:01:53 AM
Paul Lambert. The man who would literally do anything to hold on to the job.

He'd sacrifice his two assistants, claiming he had no idea what they were doing at BMH.

He lied every single week when he faced the media.

Gave Gabby a brand new long term contract when it was clear he was finished.

He's not solely to blame, obviously, but the man is a total fraud. He's right up there with David O'Leary for me.

Many said Sherwood was a chancer, but Tim hasn't got a thing on this charlatan.
Title: Re: lambert versus bruce
Post by: olaftab on January 15, 2017, 11:13:40 AM
Lambert is a fantastic manager. We must not let his obvious lack of principles, vacuous gravitas and poor tactical nous colour our judgment of the great man.
Title: Re: lambert versus bruce
Post by: QuintonVilla on January 15, 2017, 11:46:18 AM
We lost to Cardiff aswell and didn't have a shot. Does that mean you'd want Neil Warnock?
Title: Re: lambert versus bruce
Post by: TopDeck113 on January 15, 2017, 11:47:45 AM
Even if Wolves finish above us; even if Lambert takes them into the Premier League in the next couple of seasons; even if he wins the Champions League (like he did as a player, don't you know) - as far as I'm concerned, he'll never remove the stain on his professional character, which is his role in assisting Lerner, Faulkner and Fox ruin Aston Villa.
Title: Re: lambert versus bruce
Post by: Axl Rose on January 15, 2017, 12:48:29 PM
Did he get any abuse yesterday?
Title: Re: lambert versus bruce
Post by: Richard E on January 15, 2017, 01:06:33 PM
I didn't think Wolves were any great shakes last night. Nothing about that game was a ringing endorsement of Lambert.
Title: Re: lambert versus bruce
Post by: Nelly on January 15, 2017, 01:08:03 PM
If I remember correctly, Lambert had and spent a fair chunk of money at Villa. I'd guess more than some of the other lower league teams at the time. He lurched from one idea to the next: buying young and hungry players, to filling up with those about to retire. Then those revolutionary tactics of passing it to Guzan from the corner flags. He was quite happy to sign that bumper four year (?) contract too. He can do one.
Title: Re: lambert versus bruce
Post by: wittonwarrior on January 15, 2017, 01:58:48 PM
Give  him time and he will mess Wolves  up more than they want to imagine.
Title: Re: lambert versus bruce
Post by: Jimbo on January 15, 2017, 02:04:12 PM
Worse than O'Leary for me. O'Leary was outspoken and obtuse, an unlikeable bloke with no understanding of the club. However, he took a stance that opposed a failing chairman, and I think that has often been misunderstood.

Lambert is a duplicitous, self-serving liar and charlatan, clever enough to convince some people he's a lot brighter than he is, but not others. His stance was to suck up to a failing chairman for as long as he could possibly benefit from it. His policy while at the club was one of silence and dim platitudes. Once it was all over, once he had nothing else to lose, he opened up. Then he wouldn't shut up. He can fuck right off.
Title: Re: lambert versus bruce
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 15, 2017, 03:57:44 PM
The bloke that claimed he tried to resign twice and yet still signed a new contract. Twat.
Title: Re: lambert versus bruce
Post by: Damo70 on January 15, 2017, 04:06:21 PM
The bloke that claimed he tried to resign twice and yet still signed a new contract. Twat.


Bang on the button. I had a 'Race And Chase' car track as a kid where you could hit the top of the controller and the car would spin in the opposite direction. Even I didn't do as many U-turns as Lambert. Anyone who would get rid of Bruce and bring him back should be locked in a padded cell.
Title: Re: lambert versus bruce
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on January 15, 2017, 04:30:00 PM


I'd take McLeish back sooner than I'd take Lambert. I detest the bloke, which is one thing I never felt towards McLeish
Title: Re: lambert versus bruce
Post by: West Derby Villan on January 15, 2017, 04:59:49 PM
Just seeing Lambert's face makes me very annoyed
Title: Re: lambert versus bruce
Post by: dcdavecollett on January 16, 2017, 05:54:13 PM
Lambert has just found his best level -the second division.
Title: Re: lambert versus bruce
Post by: Richard on January 16, 2017, 06:02:25 PM
The worry is that it could be our Steves too !
Title: Re: lambert versus bruce
Post by: Chris Jameson on January 16, 2017, 06:16:20 PM


I'd take McLeish back sooner than I'd take Lambert. I detest the bloke, which is one thing I never felt towards McLeish

Same here. Whilst I hated the football his teams played I never disliked Mcleish, he always struck me as a thoroughly decent and honest man whereas Lambert...
Title: Re: lambert versus bruce
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on January 16, 2017, 06:32:03 PM
I am far more concerned about us getting promoted and our current manager/team than what Paul Lambert is up to.

He won a game against us. Good for him and annoying for us.

Now, where are our new signings?
Title: Re: lambert versus bruce
Post by: brontebilly on January 16, 2017, 07:26:04 PM
Thought Wolves looked a lot better at Villa Park earlier in the season. Paul Lambert was miles out of his depth at Villa Park and as others have mentioned played the poor me card far too often to be genuine.
Title: Re: lambert versus bruce
Post by: The_ads on January 16, 2017, 09:40:50 PM
Can't believe I wasted 30 seconds of my life reading this. Are you for real?
Title: Re: lambert versus bruce
Post by: The_ads on January 16, 2017, 09:42:03 PM
Worse than O'Leary for me. O'Leary was outspoken and obtuse, an unlikeable bloke with no understanding of the club. However, he took a stance that opposed a failing chairman, and I think that has often been misunderstood.

Lambert is a duplicitous, self-serving liar and charlatan, clever enough to convince some people he's a lot brighter than he is, but not others. His stance was to suck up to a failing chairman for as long as he could possibly benefit from it. His policy while at the club was one of silence and dim platitudes. Once it was all over, once he had nothing else to lose, he opened up. Then he wouldn't shut up. He can fuck right off.


Amen brother
Title: Re: lambert versus bruce
Post by: Havencheese on January 17, 2017, 12:45:38 AM
It's pretty simple.

Bruce still enjoys football after 40 years or more in the game, Lambert is now a half jaded career manager.
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