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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: sirlordbaltimore on October 01, 2016, 07:14:57 PM

Title: The On The Pitch Leaders
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on October 01, 2016, 07:14:57 PM


Seeing as RDM is getting a well deserved rollocking on here this evening, i thought it about time we also asked some questions of these so called LEADERS we signed in the summer.

Stand up Elphick and Jedinak, you are both guilty of being completely devoid of any leadership skills thus far and playing like a pair of utter planks. It's going to take a damn sight more than making a fist and making eye contact with the Holte End to make you a captain Tommy.

As for Mile, well i didn't understand the clamour for him at the time and got called 'mad' for saying he'd got lead legs and was over the hill. Sadly it seems i was right, and he's done nothing yet to make me think he'd have even been worth having on a free. If we actually had some other CM options he'd be straight on the bench



Title: Re: The On The Pitch Leaders
Post by: PaulWinch again on October 01, 2016, 07:23:19 PM
Elphick and Jedinak have fully led by example they have comfortably been two of our worst players and everyone has been dragged down with them.
Title: Re: The On The Pitch Leaders
Post by: Risso on October 01, 2016, 07:26:17 PM
Dreadful players. What's that stupid fucking thing Elphick does to the goal post at the start?

The best thing a leader can do is lead by example. I'd happily never see either of those two in a Villa shirt ever again.
Title: Re: The On The Pitch Leaders
Post by: CT on October 01, 2016, 08:12:09 PM
We made a big thing about the fact we were signing "leaders".

Was that just a cover for the fact they're just not really that good?
Title: Re: The On The Pitch Leaders
Post by: SoccerHQ on October 01, 2016, 09:13:30 PM
As soon as the goals went in I looked at the whole team to see their response after each goal.

Nothing.

All just shrugged their shoulders and turned back to the halfway line.

No b*ll*cking to even Westwood after this ridiculous error for the 2nd goal.
Title: Re: The On The Pitch Leaders
Post by: adrenachrome on October 01, 2016, 09:13:44 PM
Private Schulz, Captain Sparrow, Captain Mainwaring and Private Pike.
Title: Re: The On The Pitch Leaders
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on October 01, 2016, 09:16:21 PM
I was happy with both those signings and thought it was a smart move.

Jedinak was poor today, but was isolated on his own in front of the defence with the forwards too far ahead of him. Stick him in a three man midfield with any two players that are not Westwood and he will start to look better methinks.
Title: Re: The On The Pitch Leaders
Post by: Jockey Randall on October 01, 2016, 09:24:57 PM
I was happy with both those signings and thought it was a smart move.

Jedinak was poor today, but was isolated on his own in front of the defence with the forwards too far ahead of him. Stick him in a three man midfield with any two players that are not Westwood and he will start to look better methinks.

I'd be inclined to agree. Didn't Jedinak spend much of his time at Palace in a midfield three as well? He definitely doesn't seem to have the legs at the moment to be effective in a two.
Title: Re: The On The Pitch Leaders
Post by: richtheholtender on October 01, 2016, 09:27:20 PM
The best of it is that they have no sell on value. How much would we get for these and McCormack if we put them on the market. We have well and truly screwed up.
Title: Re: The On The Pitch Leaders
Post by: class-of-82 on October 01, 2016, 09:54:35 PM
Title of thread = there isn't any
Title: Re: The On The Pitch Leaders
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 01, 2016, 10:30:00 PM
There doesn't seem too be any. Which is really disappointing as i'd hoped we'd addressed that in the summer. Instead we fucking gave up and strolled around the pitch for the last half an hour looking like we didn't give a shit we were losing 2-0.
Title: Re: The On The Pitch Leaders
Post by: Matt Collins on October 01, 2016, 10:42:42 PM
Jedinak has been awful so far from what I've seen

I'm no fan of Gary Gardner but he wasn't serving anything this bad up

We dominated virtually every game up to forest (or at least a good chunk). We've not dominated any since. That may be partly confidence etc. And I wouldn't be as reductive as to put it all on Jedinak. But he's not helping.

Title: Re: The On The Pitch Leaders
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on October 01, 2016, 11:58:54 PM
The team needs time to gel.
Title: Re: The On The Pitch Leaders
Post by: VillaAlways on October 02, 2016, 12:03:20 AM
The team needs time to gel.
Sick of hearing this They strolled round like they were 2-0 up second half without a care in the world.
Title: Re: The On The Pitch Leaders
Post by: Gregorys Boy on October 02, 2016, 12:13:08 AM
I don't think we have any leaders no.  I think over time someone Chester could grow into that but yeah really we need a few more if we are going to improve.  I'm not going to slate Jednick yet. He's still settling into the side at this point.  But it is a problem that the manager hasn't signed enough natural leaders.
Title: Re: The On The Pitch Leaders
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on October 02, 2016, 12:21:33 AM
Some team is going to take a real thrashing.  It's just around the corner.
Title: Re: The On The Pitch Leaders
Post by: Chinchilla Bathhouse on October 02, 2016, 12:26:16 AM
Are you being sarcastic Kippax?  Not being arsey, I just genuinely can't tell. 
Title: Re: The On The Pitch Leaders
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on October 02, 2016, 12:28:47 AM
i honestly think it is down to the sheer weight of expectation that these players suddenly realise when they walk into Villa.  Elphick is a classic case in point.  At Bournemouth he would have been a big fish in a very small pond.  Suddenly he's skipper of a club of this size and all the hope more than expectation that goes with it.  This must have something to do with it.  You don't become a bad player overnight.  I watched elphick a few times for Bournemouth and you could see why RDM bought him.
Title: Re: The On The Pitch Leaders
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on October 02, 2016, 12:29:41 AM
Are you being sarcastic Kippax?  Not being arsey, I just genuinely can't tell. 

I was sorry.  Feel that humour is only way to get through this.
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