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Title: Top 6 championship.
Post by: LukeJames on August 01, 2016, 11:35:49 PM
Hows it going to end then?

1.) Newcastle
2.) Brighton

3.) Norwich
4.) Derby
5.) Villa
6.) Wolves
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 02, 2016, 12:08:01 AM
I've no idea whatsoever. Maybe Newcastle will go up. That's about it.
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: eamonn on August 02, 2016, 01:32:00 AM
It could be Rotherham or anywhere, not Liverpool or Roma. But Huddersfield is anywhere, anywhere alone.
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: mr underhill on August 02, 2016, 07:13:58 AM
the top six will contain Aston Villa if the good Doctor starts to get his wallet out. Otherwise, here comes the new boss, same as the old boss.
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: Dave P on August 02, 2016, 07:17:52 AM
1. Newcastle
2. Derby

3. Sheffield Wed
4. Brighton
5. Norwich
6. Ipswich


10. Villa
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: Nelly on August 02, 2016, 07:20:02 AM
1. Newcastle
2. Derby

3. Sheffield Wed
4. Brighton
5. Norwich
6. Ipswich


10. Villa

With our current lot, something like this is the most realistic for me.
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: sid1964 on August 02, 2016, 07:51:07 AM
1 Newcastle
2 Norwich

3 Brighton
4 Sheff Wed
5 derby
6 QPR

11 Villa - unless major changes happen in the next 4 - 5 weeks, if they do, ythen we may threaten a play off position.
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: SashasGrandad on August 02, 2016, 08:05:06 AM
I've no idea whatsoever. Maybe Newcastle will go up. That's about it.

Tend to agree with this. Would be funny though if they don't finish top 2 and they bottle it in the pay offs. They finish 3rd we finish 6th and then beat them!

In reality I'm just hoping for top half well clear of the unwashed from Small Heath.
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: Steve67 on August 02, 2016, 08:18:30 AM
September 1st might be the time to ask me.
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: robbo1874 on August 02, 2016, 08:49:39 AM
Or February 1st?
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on August 02, 2016, 09:15:31 AM
Villa will be top 4, and will finish above Norwich and Derby.
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: in exile on August 02, 2016, 09:18:41 AM
Villa will be top 4, and will finish above Norwich and Derby.

Make mine a pint of whatever Ashtonvilla is on please
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: CJ on August 02, 2016, 09:53:38 AM
I think Newcastle will walk it, with Derby or Brighton taking the other automatic promotion place. Like others have said, unless we get some quality in before 1st September, I think we'll struggle to get anywhere near the play-offs. With more or less the same squad we finished with 17 points less than the next relegated team, and 23 points short of staying up last season, and I haven't seen a great deal change in pre-season to suggest any improvement . As I've said elsewhere, I think this will be a season of stopping the rot and consolidating before pressing on next season. I'd be ecstatic if we got straight back up but I'm not holding my breath
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: Ads on August 02, 2016, 09:54:21 AM
1. Aston Villa
2 and beyond- some other tarts.
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on August 02, 2016, 09:59:16 AM
Villa will be top 4, and will finish above Norwich and Derby.

Make mine a pint of whatever Ashtonvilla is on please

What's so great about Norwich and Derby? Only Newcastle have a better squad than Villa as it stands (yes I know Norwich finished above us last year).

We have new management now, better coaches and an owner that appears to give a shit. We will be signing a striker and an attacking midfielder before the end of the month, and probably a defensive midfielder and centre back to replace Gana and Clark.

This league is not even close to the standard of the Premier league and our poor performers will look above average in it. The standout teams last season were the likes of Burnley, Boro and Hull. Even Villa were better than Burnley and Hull when they got relegated, yet they both went straight back up despite losing players.

Villa are right at the top end of the league regards net spend, we have got rid of poor players with terrible attitude like are NZogbia, Guzan, Richardson. We are offloading mediocre dross like Clark, Sanchez, Gana and Gil - and getting decent money for them. We are getting in fresh faces with better attitude like Elphick.

I don't get all the negativity.

Blues finished top half last year, and even at our worst we were far too good for them. There i no way we will not finish top 6, and I suspect we will give Newcastle serious competition for the title.
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: mr underhill on August 02, 2016, 10:00:44 AM
yes, we were so together we amassed 17 points.
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: UK Redsox on August 02, 2016, 10:14:57 AM
It could be Rotherham or anywhere, not Liverpool or Roma. But Huddersfield is anywhere, anywhere alone.

Bolton, Barnsley, Nelson, Colne, Burnley, Bradford, Buxton, Crewe, Warrington, Widnes, Wigan, Leeds, Northwich, Nantwich, Knutsford,
Hull, Sale, Salford, Southport, Leigh, Kirkby, Kearsley, Keighley, Maghull, Harrogate, Huddersfield, Oldham, Lancs, Grimsby, Glossop, Hebden Bridge


Alternatively..........

Leeds United, Leeds United
From Wakefield to the Ridings
To the ground at Elland Road
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: in exile on August 02, 2016, 10:42:13 AM
Villa will be top 4, and will finish above Norwich and Derby.

Make mine a pint of whatever Ashtonvilla is on please

...There i no way we will not finish top 6
Top 6 I would have gone along with
Strong stuff isn't it
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: not3bad on August 02, 2016, 11:13:56 AM
Villa need to strengthen during August, then RDM needs to find his best team. Given that these two happen, and I think they will, then I believe Villa can challenge for an automatic promotion place. I think Newcastle are favourites to be champions because they are ahead of us in terms of squad strength.

2nd - 4th place is my prediction.
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: Ads on August 02, 2016, 11:18:37 AM
I think 2nd too.

Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: Lescottstweets on August 02, 2016, 11:28:50 AM
I predict we'll get promoted at the first attempt, and I believe theres no reason to think that we couldnt do it as Champions
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: Gregorys Boy on August 02, 2016, 11:31:17 AM
At the moment I think Villa could finish anywhere between 10 and 2.  Can't really make a bold prediction until the window is shut.  If we don't lose too many of the better players and make say three strong sighings then I think we should be very much in the mix.  Otherwise think it will be a scrap for the play-offs at best. 

Newcastle and Norwich will both go back up I think.  Then it will be one from us, Derby, Brighton etc...
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: Bottom Right 89 on August 02, 2016, 11:32:19 AM
We will finish 1st, couldn't care less about anyone else.
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: Gregorys Boy on August 02, 2016, 11:35:40 AM
We will finish 1st, couldn't care less about anyone else.

Yes, but the threads called Top 6 Championship not top 1 lol.
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: peter w on August 02, 2016, 11:37:34 AM
I really don't know where we will finish. It could be anywhere.
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: tony_harrison on August 02, 2016, 11:41:33 AM
Mid-table mediocrity with the current rabble. The early signings showed some promise but we need to make a few more additions if we want to challenge for the top 6. 
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: Gregorys Boy on August 02, 2016, 11:49:44 AM
Mid-table mediocrity with the current rabble. The early signings showed some promise but we need to make a few more additions if we want to challenge for the top 6. 

Elphick seems the most promising of the signings so far.  The other two seem more for the future.  The lad from Reading is very underwhelming it seems.  Mid-table wouldn't surprise me, but likewise we could be in the shake up at the top also.  The one thing I'm confident of is that it will be play-offs at best.  Don't see us going up via the top two.
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: aj2k77 on August 02, 2016, 12:11:03 PM
Mid table. Still have the losers and wankers with their mentality and attitude. An injection of experience, skill and power would push us in to the play off positions and more.
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: Bottom Right 89 on August 02, 2016, 12:22:54 PM
We will finish 1st, couldn't care less about anyone else.
Yes, but the threads called Top 6 Championship not top 1 lol.
Alright if I have to - 1 Villa 2 Newcastle 3 Derby 4 Brighton 5 Norwich 6 Sheff Weds
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: Skerra on August 02, 2016, 12:23:09 PM
1) Derby
2) Norwich
3) Brighton
4) Sheffield Wednesday
5) Newcastle
6) Cardiff

We need a good striker desperately. If we rely on current players, I think mid table beckons. If we can get 3/4 good quality players in then a shot at the play offs will not be out of the question. Unlike a lot of other people, I don't think Newcastle will find it too easy either to make the automatic promotion spots.
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: eddiemunster on August 02, 2016, 01:00:52 PM
Hows it going to end then?


With an almighty bang!

Sorry, wrong topic.....I thought this was about the end of the world.....
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: Comrade Blitz on August 02, 2016, 01:13:14 PM
Based on the form of the clubs that finished in the top 6 last season, there's no messing about. Four of the top six were right there nearly from the beginning. Here's a chart that I did this morning mapping the changes in their places from week 5 (left) to the final day (right)


(https://s31.postimg.org/xcu5b492j/SNAG_Program_0004.jpg)

Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: mr underhill on August 02, 2016, 01:16:07 PM
fuck ; better get off to a flyer then
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: Chris Jameson on August 02, 2016, 01:16:46 PM
I've no idea who will finish where but I think Newcastle will finish top quite comfortably, just read they've sold more season tickets for this season than they did last season.
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: Ads on August 02, 2016, 01:16:57 PM
Burnley had a bit of a dip didn't they?
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: avfcpg on August 02, 2016, 01:25:44 PM
No idea...and to be honest, how many of us knew anything about most of the teams in this division last season, let alone know what they are going to be like this season...
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: UK Redsox on August 02, 2016, 01:26:39 PM
Hows it going to end then?


With an almighty bang!

Sorry, wrong topic.....I thought this was about the end of the world.....

(AIFF)
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: wittonwarrior on August 02, 2016, 01:31:44 PM
Would not surprise me if we on Sunday then lose against rotherham - if that's the pattern then we could finish anywhere between 2nd an 10th - we don't win lower leagues
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: David_Nab on August 02, 2016, 01:38:03 PM
Wolves may be a concern with all the players they are bringing in , we need a decent start but at moment we still don't look ready for the league
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 02, 2016, 03:26:44 PM
Impossible to say as I believe we'll have at least 5 leave, including Gana, and 5 in.
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: ChicagoLion on August 02, 2016, 03:40:57 PM
Based on the form of the clubs that finished in the top 6 last season, there's no messing about. Four of the top six were right there nearly from the beginning. Here's a chart that I did this morning mapping the changes in their places from week 5 (left) to the final day (right)


(https://s31.postimg.org/xcu5b492j/SNAG_Program_0004.jpg)
i love this,I think the Burnley line is too purple though.
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: mr underhill on August 02, 2016, 04:02:37 PM
it's actually a new underground map found in Mondrian's studio when he was on the absinthe
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: Comrade Blitz on August 02, 2016, 04:13:00 PM
i love this,I think the Burnley line is too purple though.

Thanks. I couldn't find a good claret in the crap Excel colours
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: Villain1874 on August 02, 2016, 04:26:51 PM
Newcastle to get promoted, no idea to be honest on the other two to get promoted or finish in the top six..
As for us I predict another poor season...
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: ChicagoLion on August 02, 2016, 05:55:13 PM
i love this,I think the Burnley line is too purple though.

Thanks. I couldn't find a good claret in the crap Excel colours
you and our kit makers.
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: peter w on August 02, 2016, 05:55:21 PM
i love this,I think the Burnley line is too purple though.

Thanks. I couldn't find a good claret in the crap Excel colours

Fuck sake. Could this club sink any lower?
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: Keeno on August 03, 2016, 12:18:02 PM
Would it be too optimistic to think that the goals McCormack will hopefully bring will be enough to at least keep us minimum in playoff contention? I'd like to think automatic promotion (because the playoffs are so bloody nerve-wracking), but it seems too alien to be predicting Villa to finish near the top of any league that I think we'll be in the chasing pack. 4th.
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: AVH87 on August 03, 2016, 12:51:54 PM
I think we'll add 3-4 players yet which will be enough to finish in the Top 6, not sure about Top 2.

Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: Steve kirk on August 03, 2016, 06:03:30 PM
Keeping my powder dry on top 6 or where we might finish until in's and outs are bit clearer but if we could sort out a well drilled back 4 who keep a good shape and cut out the majority of our well renowned cock ups that would along with a finisher like McCormack go a long way to securing a high season end position, another commanding experienced centre back please.
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: Sexual Ealing on August 03, 2016, 08:50:32 PM
I think we'll win it.
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: four fornicholl on August 03, 2016, 09:00:12 PM
1 AVFC
2 NUFC
3 DCFC
4 WWFC
5 LUFC
6 NCFC



24 BCFC
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: Tayls_7 on August 03, 2016, 09:09:22 PM
1 AVFC
2 NUFC
3 DCFC
4 WWFC
5 LUFC
6 NCFC



24 BCFC

Notts County have done well.
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: four fornicholl on August 03, 2016, 09:14:11 PM
1 AVFC
2 NUFC
3 DCFC
4 WWFC
5 LUFC
6 NCFC



24 BCFC

Notts County have done well.
Theres always a surprise! ;)
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 03, 2016, 09:15:35 PM
Can't see Bristol City finishing bottom.
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: four fornicholl on August 03, 2016, 09:17:41 PM
Can't see Bristol City finishing bottom.
They might. ;)
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: Richard E on August 03, 2016, 09:19:37 PM
Burton surely have bottom spot nailed on?
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: Tayls_7 on August 03, 2016, 09:26:22 PM
Burton surely have bottom spot nailed on?

24. SHA
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: ozzjim on August 03, 2016, 10:25:06 PM
As it stands squad wise. May revise if we spend well.

1. Newcastle sadly, best squad, top manager. Don't think they will walk it though.
2. Brighton - Hughton is just good in this league. If they keep Knockaert will be right up there.
3. Norwich - Pritchard is a good move and they are a well organised side.
4. Derby - Pearson will have them up there I think.
5. Villa - McCormack is a great capture all things considered. Play offs.
6. Wolves - Late run as they gel after Christmas, but Zenga to be long gone by then.
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: Ads on August 03, 2016, 10:30:25 PM
Can't see Norwich doing much with their forwards.
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: ozzjim on August 04, 2016, 09:08:29 AM
I think they will be good at the back though.  Jerome will get 15 plus. In fact a reckon Jerome will have a better goal to minutes ratio than Ayew if he stays.
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: DB on August 04, 2016, 09:10:29 AM
Not sure about Newcastle. With the squad they have they are favourites, but will RB get the best out of them? He is not used to dealing with players of the quality in the C-ship i.e. wanting them to do / play a certain way but may not be good enough to execute it. Also, come Oct / Nov when a few PL clubs are not doing as well as they hoped and looking to replace a manager, where would they look for a high-profile replacement - if he had a chance to return to the PL, he would go. Maybe, one of the reasons he stayed at Newcastle, waiting for a PL job?

Or they could just walk it...
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: ozzjim on August 04, 2016, 09:15:58 AM
I think if one of the top 6 ish sides sack someone early doors he will be in high demand for sure.
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: UK Redsox on August 04, 2016, 03:02:39 PM
Grauniad place Villa in their candidates for automatic promotion

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2016/aug/04/championship-2016-17-season-preview
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: Damo70 on August 04, 2016, 04:15:21 PM
Not sure about Newcastle. With the squad they have they are favourites, but will RB get the best out of them? He is not used to dealing with players of the quality in the C-ship i.e. wanting them to do / play a certain way but may not be good enough to execute it. Also, come Oct / Nov when a few PL clubs are not doing as well as they hoped and looking to replace a manager, where would they look for a high-profile replacement - if he had a chance to return to the PL, he would go. Maybe, one of the reasons he stayed at Newcastle, waiting for a PL job?

Or they could just walk it...


When you say Benitez is not used to dealing with championship quality players you are over looking the fact he led both Extremadura and CD Tenerife to promotion from the Segunda to La Liga at the first time of asking in the late nineties.
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: Damo70 on August 04, 2016, 04:20:04 PM
The bookies go Newcastle, Norwich, Villa, Derby, Brighton and Wolves in that order. Personally I don't fancy Wolves and Brighton might have a hangover from missing out last season. Newcastle look the strongest on paper, Norwich look like one of those yo yo teams not good enough for the top flight but good enough to get promoted and Derby under Pearson must stand a chance.
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: ozzjim on August 04, 2016, 11:55:31 PM
Looking at their squad, Newcastle should walk 100 points.
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: Gregorys Boy on August 05, 2016, 12:51:37 AM
Wolves are a bit unpredictable because of the gamble they've taken on this new manager.  But in general I see them as a mid-table side right now at best. 

Think Brighton and Derby are the two who could steal the play-off promotion ahead of us.  Newcastle and Norwich for the top two I think. 
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: Sexual Ealing on August 05, 2016, 12:58:47 AM
Grauniad place Villa in their candidates for automatic promotion

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2016/aug/04/championship-2016-17-season-preview

A big no for me, Marcel, because the writer calls last summer's signings Remi Garde's.
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: four fornicholl on August 05, 2016, 01:00:06 AM
Looking at their squad, Newcastle should walk 100 points.
That is a depressing statement.
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: Gregorys Boy on August 05, 2016, 01:04:56 AM
Grauniad place Villa in their candidates for automatic promotion

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2016/aug/04/championship-2016-17-season-preview

Good spot.  Maybe she knows something we don't.

A big no for me, Marcel, because the writer calls last summer's signings Remi Garde's.
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: Chinchilla Bathhouse on August 05, 2016, 01:12:26 AM
Yes, I just read that Grauniad piece and it's extremely lazy. Factually flimsy (on Garde) and full of stupid statements (on Pearson particularly). When the "three players to watch" are the most obvious three in the competition you know it's a half-arsed article by someone who doesn't know their stuff and can't be bothered to dig any deeper.
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: adrenachrome on August 05, 2016, 01:35:26 AM
Yes, I just read that Grauniad piece and it's extremely lazy. Factually flimsy (on Garde) and full of stupid statements (on Pearson particularly). When the "three players to watch" are the most obvious three in the competition you know it's a half-arsed article by someone who doesn't know their stuff and can't be bothered to dig any deeper.

It isn't a Guardian piece, it is a blog in the Grauniad web space, as they say. And "Louise Taylor is north-east football correspondent for the Guardian".  In other words "get involved" with the bantz or we will soon be even more freelance.

Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: Damo70 on August 05, 2016, 06:06:50 AM
Looking at their squad, Newcastle should walk 100 points.

That is my favourite Proclaimers song.
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: brontebilly on August 05, 2016, 07:13:55 AM
1) Newcastle
Other top 6, Derby, AVFC, Norwich, Sheff Wed/Brighton
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on August 05, 2016, 08:09:06 AM
Grauniad place Villa in their candidates for automatic promotion

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2016/aug/04/championship-2016-17-season-preview

If I've read that article correctly, 75% of the teams in the Championship will be getting promoted.
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on August 05, 2016, 10:13:29 AM
1 Aston Villa (c)
2 Brighton (P)
3 Newcastle
4 Nottingham Forest (P)
5 Derby County
6 Leeds United

Relegated Burton Albion, Birmingham City, Fulham

Newcastle to miss out on the last day of the season, only to be dumped out in the playoffs with a Clark own goal. Forest to beat Derby in the play off final, where Pearson gets arrested for trying to strangle the ref. Villa to be Champions overtaking West Brom, Stoke and Leicester who get relegated as the natural order of midlands football is restored in one magnificent season.
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on August 05, 2016, 10:33:14 AM
1 Aston Villa (c)
2 Brighton (P)
3 Newcastle
4 Nottingham Forest (P)
5 Derby County
6 Leeds United

Relegated Burton Albion, Birmingham City, Fulham

Newcastle to miss out on the last day of the season, only to be dumped out in the playoffs with a Clark own goal. Forest to beat Derby in the play off final, where Pearson gets arrested for trying to strangle the ref. Villa to be Champions overtaking West Brom, Stoke and Leicester who get relegated as the natural order of midlands football is restored in one magnificent season.

Wonderful!


If only.....
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: in exile on August 05, 2016, 10:46:55 AM
1 Aston Villa (c)
2 Brighton (P)
3 Newcastle
4 Nottingham Forest (P)
5 Derby County
6 Leeds United

Relegated Burton Albion, Birmingham City, Fulham
Wonderful!


If only.....
I'd settle for us coming second as long as that shit finished second bottom
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: JUAN PABLO on August 05, 2016, 11:22:42 AM
1 Aston Villa (c)
2 Brighton (P)
3 Newcastle
4 Nottingham Forest (P)
5 Derby County
6 Leeds United

Relegated Burton Albion, Birmingham City, Fulham

Newcastle to miss out on the last day of the season, only to be dumped out in the playoffs with a Clark own goal. Forest to beat Derby in the play off final, where Pearson gets arrested for trying to strangle the ref. Villa to be Champions overtaking West Brom, Stoke and Leicester who get relegated as the natural order of midlands football is restored in one magnificent season.

Wonderful!


If only.....

If Carlsberg did the championship
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on August 05, 2016, 01:25:17 PM
1 Aston Villa (c)
2 Brighton (P)
3 Newcastle
4 Nottingham Forest (P)
5 Derby County
6 Leeds United

Relegated Burton Albion, Birmingham City, Fulham

Newcastle to miss out on the last day of the season, only to be dumped out in the playoffs with a Clark own goal. Forest to beat Derby in the play off final, where Pearson gets arrested for trying to strangle the ref. Villa to be Champions overtaking West Brom, Stoke and Leicester who get relegated as the natural order of midlands football is restored in one magnificent season.

Wonderful!


If only.....

Oh and I forgot to mention us beating West Ham in the FA cup final, sealing victory in injury time with a last second overhead bicycle kick from Gollini.
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: ozzjim on August 05, 2016, 02:19:15 PM
Amazed by the number of pundits predicting us to come below Blues.
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on August 05, 2016, 02:47:26 PM
Amazed by the number of pundits predicting us to come below Blues.

It's actually ridiculous how anyone being paid to offer expert advice can predict that and still have a job. The editor should be sending them running from the office avoiding the hurled teacup whilst trying to hold on to their P45.
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: jwarry on August 05, 2016, 07:16:57 PM
Reality has just kicked in. I'm sat watching the warm up for the first championship game of the season excited. Never gave it the slightest thought before
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: berneboy on August 05, 2016, 09:43:00 PM
I see Fulham lead by three points.
I see Newcastle are clearly bottom on goal difference.
Good enough to date.
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: Comrade Blitz on September 15, 2016, 12:05:47 PM
Based on the form of the clubs that finished in the top 6 last season, there's no messing about. Four of the top six were right there nearly from the beginning. Here's a chart that I did this morning mapping the changes in their places from week 5 (left) to the final day (right)

(https://s31.postimg.org/xcu5b492j/SNAG_Program_0004.jpg)



Looks like Villa are going to have to do whatever Derby & Wednesday did last season to climb into the Top 6 this season.
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: Gaz Jones on September 15, 2016, 12:45:31 PM
Based on the form of the clubs that finished in the top 6 last season, there's no messing about. Four of the top six were right there nearly from the beginning. Here's a chart that I did this morning mapping the changes in their places from week 5 (left) to the final day (right)

(https://s31.postimg.org/xcu5b492j/SNAG_Program_0004.jpg)



Looks like Villa are going to have to do whatever Derby & Wednesday did last season to climb into the Top 6 this season.

Yeah, but if you look at that Burnley meandered around 5th until after Christmas.  As long as we are not 20 points off it by that point, there is still every chance of going up automatically even though that feels a long way off from where we are at the moment.  We've still got more than an entire Premier League season's worth of fixtures left, having started with pretty much an entirely new side.

It's not been a great start, but I haven't seen anything yet that makes me think once the side gels that they couldn't go on a decent unbeaten run. Do that and you'll fly up this league.

Also, it would be interesting to see what happened to all of the clubs who were in the Top 6 after 7 games because they are not all there.  I'm guessing a couple of team that got off to flyers last year soon plumetted (e.g. the Sty Dwellers).
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: Witton Warrior on September 15, 2016, 01:53:56 PM
Based on the form of the clubs that finished in the top 6 last season, there's no messing about. Four of the top six were right there nearly from the beginning. Here's a chart that I did this morning mapping the changes in their places from week 5 (left) to the final day (right)

(https://s31.postimg.org/xcu5b492j/SNAG_Program_0004.jpg)



Looks like Villa are going to have to do whatever Derby & Wednesday did last season to climb into the Top 6 this season.

Didn't Derby sack their manager?
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 15, 2016, 01:54:19 PM
I still think we'll make the top 6.
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: ozzjim on September 15, 2016, 01:59:59 PM
And me Paul

Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: Richard on September 16, 2016, 07:22:44 AM
Newcastle
Norwich
Brighton
Sheff Weds
A surprise team like Fulham Barnsley Huddersfield
Us
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: Clampy on September 16, 2016, 08:54:28 AM
I think we will too.
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: Comrade Blitz on September 16, 2016, 12:56:43 PM
Working on the full season graphs at the moment, but here's the table at ~ this time last year


(http://i67.tinypic.com/k99no0.jpg)



Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: MplsVilla on September 16, 2016, 01:18:50 PM
I'm still optimistic. Despite the recent results a leading index bookmaker still projects us to get 67.5 points and finish 6th. 2 1/2 points ahead of Derby, but 11 1/2 points behind Norwich in 2nd. At this stage I would take the play-offs.
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: wittonwarrior on September 16, 2016, 01:31:11 PM
I think we will there or thereabouts for the play offs. We are a mistake or two for automatic promotion
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: Witton Warrior on September 16, 2016, 03:35:26 PM
I'm still optimistic. Despite the recent results a leading index bookmaker still projects us to get 67.5 points and finish 6th. 2 1/2 points ahead of Derby, but 11 1/2 points behind Norwich in 2nd. At this stage I would take the play-offs.

Day out winning at Wembley would be just fine by me...
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: SoccerHQ on September 16, 2016, 04:20:41 PM
To get automatic last season was 90 points.

6th place is usually low 70s.

It's a much more achievable target for us.
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: QuintonVilla on September 16, 2016, 04:22:11 PM
I said 9th at the start of the season, I stand by that.
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: SoccerHQ on September 16, 2016, 04:31:26 PM
You could well be right.

As things stand I'd say we will just miss out on top 6 and will rue all these points we've thrown away.

What I'm clinging onto is surely we will go on a run at some point. That will change things as you only need to win 2-3 in this league and you can shoot up 5-6 places.
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: DeKuip on September 16, 2016, 05:09:03 PM
I'm still optimistic. Despite the recent results a leading index bookmaker still projects us to get 67.5 points and finish 6th. 2 1/2 points ahead of Derby, but 11 1/2 points behind Norwich in 2nd. At this stage I would take the play-offs.
I'll bet any bookie we won't at any time this season be two and half points ahead of Derby.
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: SoccerHQ on September 16, 2016, 11:16:44 PM
Working on the full season graphs at the moment, but here's the table at ~ this time last year


(http://i67.tinypic.com/k99no0.jpg)





Well the most obvious example there is Wednesday, made the Play off final which I'd snap your hands off if offered tbh and they weren't that far off automatics.

Preston also had a great run second half of the season, weren't far off making top 6.
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: PeterWithe on September 16, 2016, 11:23:48 PM
If we win tomorrow I reckon we can make second.
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: claret+blue ed on September 17, 2016, 12:04:46 AM
Still confident of top 6, anything better will be a massive bonus
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: Comrade Blitz on September 17, 2016, 03:24:52 AM
Well the most obvious example there is Wednesday, made the Play off final which I'd snap your hands off if offered tbh and they weren't that far off automatics.

Preston also had a great run second half of the season, weren't far off making top 6.

See my comment on page 6
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: Pete3206 on September 17, 2016, 10:20:31 AM
Last time we were in this league, we had 6 points after 7 games, having lost 3 of them. We didn't win a home game until the middle of October.That didn't turm out too bad did it?

New manager, new team, new regime. It will take time.
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: Clampy on September 17, 2016, 10:25:17 AM
Last time we were in this league, we had 6 points after 7 games, having lost 3 of them. We didn't win a home game until the middle of October.That didn't turm out too bad did it?

New manager, new team, new regime. It will take time.

Absolutely.
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: Nunkin1965 on September 17, 2016, 10:27:37 AM
Play offs for me. I think we'll hit form soon. Not sure it will be with RDM though. A tricky spell for him with 3 tough games to come. If we pick up a couple of wins this could kickstart our season. I'm not baying for blood manager wise but I just don't think Dr T will dither if he wants to change.
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: Gregorys Boy on September 17, 2016, 01:29:15 PM
Its a very close division points wise.  A lift pre-Christmas and a strong second half run then we can still make the play-offs.  Its too early to rule us out. 
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: in exile on September 17, 2016, 05:10:59 PM
Still feel the same boys?
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: Goldie.7 on September 17, 2016, 05:12:03 PM
Its a very close division points wise.  A lift pre-Christmas and a strong second half run then we can still make the play-offs. 

It's never going to happen.
Title: Re: Top 6 championship.
Post by: Ads on September 17, 2016, 05:35:06 PM
Move to other football. It's got fuck all to do with us.
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