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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on July 25, 2016, 10:44:49 AM

Title: India
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 25, 2016, 10:44:49 AM
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Aston Villa is opening its first football academy outside England in India. I know the first team is what ultimately matters but we need to lay foundations to grow the club across the world to open up new revenue streams.

This follows discussions held with the Minister of Sport Vijay Goel and the Minister of Education Prakesh Javedekar.

Villa is to be appointed as advisor on football as the sport forms part of the national curriculum for Indian state schools. 

India’s ambition is to be as successful at football as cricket and ultimately host the World Cup by building from grassroots. 

Villa’s academy will be located in New Delhi on property provided by the Municipal Council, including a 3G pitch and offices, changing rooms, gym, classrooms and other amenities. 

The academy will train coaches to work in the state schools and will coach kids from the age of five upwards. 

Dr Tony Xia, Aston Villa chairman, made the announcement at a press conference today at the Taj Hotel in New Delhi following five days of meetings. 

Villa also plans to tie-up with a Club playing in the Indian Football Super League. 

The chairman revealed he hoped to find talented Indian footballers to attend the club’s Bodymoor Heath academy and eventually progress to play in Villa’s first team. 

Dr Tony said: “Aston Villa Football Club plans to expand globally and India is one of the countries where we not only want to have an Indian Super League club but also open football academies all over India.   

“Aston Villa has one of the best football academies in the world and has fans all over the world and some of our famous supporters include David Cameron, Prince William and Tom Hanks.

“Using our network we also want to help promote the U17 FIFA World Cup being held in India next year and make it a big sports celebration.”
Title: Re: India
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on July 25, 2016, 10:46:42 AM
Good idea in my opinion
Title: Re: India
Post by: robbo1874 on July 25, 2016, 10:54:51 AM
Anyone know what a 3G pitch is?
Title: Re: India
Post by: CJ on July 25, 2016, 10:56:29 AM
Artificial grass
Title: Re: India
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 25, 2016, 10:58:44 AM
Anyone know what a 3G pitch is?

It's a form of artificial turf supported by rubber pellets that has become quite popular but has drawn some controversy due to claims it can increase the risk of cancer. A lot more comfortable to play on than the old knee crushing artificial surfaces.
Title: Re: India
Post by: Hoppo on July 25, 2016, 11:26:25 AM
I believe Tamworth have one, where were playing a friendly on Wednesday.
Title: Re: India
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 25, 2016, 11:38:00 AM
I like the idea of spreading the name as far and wide as possible, but wouldn't Indian players struggle to get a work permit to play here? Would we have to find British Indians to marry them to?
Title: Re: India
Post by: Russ aka Big Nose on July 25, 2016, 11:41:49 AM
Most 5-a-side centres (like 'Goals') have 3G or now more likely 4G artificial pitches. The 4G just being an upgrade on 3G.

Anyway, good move by Villa - useful in terms of expanding profile and potentially some players may come through. Though I think the investment is predicated on the former rather than the latter.
Title: Re: India
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on July 25, 2016, 12:04:04 PM
Good stuff.









When does the punathon start on this thread?
Title: Re: India
Post by: UK Redsox on July 25, 2016, 12:08:54 PM
Anyone know what a 3G pitch is?

You can write about it but videoing it is a problem
Title: Re: India
Post by: olaftab on July 25, 2016, 12:13:04 PM
Would we have to find British Indians to marry them to?
Haha...not just British Indians any willing girls  who believe in tha cause or in the case of Ladies team boys ;)
Title: Re: India
Post by: Comrade Blitz on July 25, 2016, 12:13:40 PM
Football is Indian!


(http://s3.india.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/5465.jpg)
Title: Re: India
Post by: Tuscans on July 25, 2016, 12:19:08 PM
I haven't a scooby-doo about the rules of Sikhism but it would be great for football and the the club to have a professional Indian footballer, donning a turban playing week in week out for the club, of course only if good enough not just to be PC.

Title: Re: India
Post by: Chinchilla Bathhouse on July 25, 2016, 12:19:21 PM
When does the punathon start on this thread?

Look! Now!
Title: Re: India
Post by: CJ on July 25, 2016, 12:29:59 PM
Shouldn't that be a Pune-athon?
Title: Re: India
Post by: paul_e on July 25, 2016, 12:34:40 PM
I believe Tamworth have one, where were playing a friendly on Wednesday.

Newcastle and Sarries rugby union teams both use them.
Title: Re: India
Post by: robbo1874 on July 25, 2016, 12:41:02 PM
Punjabithon?
Title: Re: India
Post by: GordonCowansisthegreatest on July 25, 2016, 12:41:31 PM
Shouldn't that be a Pune-athon?
Just keep jabing away!
Title: Re: India
Post by: robbo1874 on July 25, 2016, 12:46:38 PM
I can see some Agra on here if this keeps up
Title: Re: India
Post by: CJ on July 25, 2016, 12:47:08 PM
Yeah we don't want any argy bhaji
Title: Re: India
Post by: robbo1874 on July 25, 2016, 12:58:10 PM
Agreed. We need to Sikh a peaceful outcome
Title: Re: India
Post by: Clark W Griswold on July 25, 2016, 01:04:27 PM
We don't want everyone to Turb-an each other.
Title: Re: India
Post by: PaulWinch again on July 25, 2016, 01:20:05 PM
Smart thinking this.
Title: Re: India
Post by: rob_bridge on July 25, 2016, 01:24:16 PM
Very good idea.
Title: Re: India
Post by: Dante Lavelli on July 25, 2016, 01:35:39 PM
With the new academy systems in the UK, I'm surprised that Villa - and PL clubs generally - have not been encouraged to get involved with schools in the UK.  By being an academy I believe that they can influence the curriculum (extra football) and would be a great way of getting the brand into key areas.
Title: Re: India
Post by: peter w on July 25, 2016, 01:39:22 PM
I'd love a Kabbadi/football fusion.
Title: Re: India
Post by: Hookeysmith on July 25, 2016, 01:45:00 PM
I'd love a Kabbadi/football fusion.

Have watched that a few times - can someone tell me what the hell is going on? The commentators go into raptures yet all I am seeing is grown men playing playground "tag"
Title: Re: India
Post by: cdward on July 25, 2016, 01:46:55 PM
It can only help not Hindu our progress..
Title: Re: India
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 25, 2016, 01:56:22 PM
I'd love a Kabbadi/football fusion.

Have watched that a few times - can someone tell me what the hell is going on? The commentators go into raptures yet all I am seeing is grown men playing playground "tag"

grown men playing tag holding their breath. It's kind of like a game of dodgeball, without the erm...ball...obviously.
Title: Re: India
Post by: ChicagoLion on July 25, 2016, 02:04:04 PM
I hope our playing style is not tikka tappy.
Title: Re: India
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on July 25, 2016, 02:13:10 PM
I'd love a Kabbadi/football fusion.

Have watched that a few times - can someone tell me what the hell is going on? The commentators go into raptures yet all I am seeing is grown men playing playground "tag"

grown men playing tag holding their breath. It's kind of like a game of dodgeball, without the erm...ball...obviously.

British Bulldog for grown ups.
Title: Re: India
Post by: not3bad on July 25, 2016, 02:13:37 PM
I can ceylon term benefits from this initiative.
Title: Re: India
Post by: Havencheese on July 25, 2016, 02:17:01 PM
Not a Hydrabad idea, glad it got the Goahead, Delhited in fact.
Title: Re: India
Post by: LeeB on July 25, 2016, 02:25:49 PM
Not a Hydrabad idea, glad it got the Goahead, Delhited in fact.

It's a no-goa for me.
Title: Re: India
Post by: Brend'Watkins on July 25, 2016, 02:28:04 PM
 Gabby Abanglahore thinks it's a good idea.
Title: Re: India
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on July 25, 2016, 02:49:59 PM
Its good to tikka look at football on other continents.

However, if we signed Dehli Adebola I'd be naan too impressed.
Title: Re: India
Post by: ClaretAndBlueBlood on July 25, 2016, 03:18:41 PM
all of these puns are making me mad ras hell  >:(
Title: Re: India
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on July 25, 2016, 03:32:15 PM
A Villa academy in India has got to be a massive bhuna for the club.
Title: Re: India
Post by: the badger on July 25, 2016, 03:38:15 PM
Anyone know what a 3G pitch is?

You need to wear your glasses !
Title: Re: India
Post by: Smirker on July 25, 2016, 03:40:50 PM
I haven't a scooby-doo about the rules of Sikhism but it would be great for football and the the club to have a professional Indian footballer, donning a turban playing week in week out for the club, of course only if good enough not just to be PC.

It would be great. I'll definitely Singh when they're winning.
Title: Re: India
Post by: SashasGrandad on July 25, 2016, 03:56:32 PM
all of these puns are making me mad ras hell  >:(

Especially when they refer to places not in India (but in Pakistan, Sri Lanka etc)
Title: Re: India
Post by: Brend'Watkins on July 25, 2016, 04:00:55 PM
all of these puns are making me mad ras hell  >:(

Especially when they refer to places not in India (but in Pakistan, Sri Lanka etc)

They should be Siouxed for such ignorance.
Title: Re: India
Post by: IAmTheOneIanOlney on July 25, 2016, 04:12:15 PM
Tony
Tony Xia
Tony Xia In-di-aaa
Title: Re: India
Post by: Ron Manager on July 25, 2016, 04:18:32 PM
We had what was considered to be the best Indian footballer Buhtia (I think) on trial in the 1990's. He wasnt up to much. The Baggies tried him as well. I think he played for Bury for a few games.
Title: Re: India
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 25, 2016, 05:05:06 PM
He played for Bury and doubled their attendance, I think.
Title: Re: India
Post by: peter w on July 25, 2016, 05:09:15 PM
Isn't this something that was set-up under the Lerner regime?
Title: Re: India
Post by: four fornicholl on July 25, 2016, 05:10:06 PM
all of these puns are making me mad ras hell  >:(

Especially when they refer to places not in India (but in Pakistan, Sri Lanka etc)

They should be Siouxed for such ignorance.
I agree, and it needs to be done tonto.
Title: Re: India
Post by: ChicagoLion on July 25, 2016, 05:14:03 PM
Now your Gupta believe it
We goa  w India  league
Title: Re: India
Post by: peter w on July 25, 2016, 05:20:46 PM
all of these puns are making me mad ras hell  >:(

Especially when they refer to places not in India (but in Pakistan, Sri Lanka etc)

Bhut an excellent pun is still worthwhile.
Title: Re: India
Post by: four fornicholl on July 25, 2016, 05:22:41 PM
all of these puns are making me mad ras hell  >:(

Especially when they refer to places not in India (but in Pakistan, Sri Lanka etc)

Bhut an excellent pun is still worth
sikhing out
Title: Re: India
Post by: wittonwarrior on July 25, 2016, 09:52:23 PM
Cracking idea, needs to be run properly and not as a gimmick.  One issue will be work permits. 
Title: Re: India
Post by: olaftab on July 25, 2016, 10:34:20 PM
It's all about shirt sales really. We don't expect many Indian lads turning up here very soon. We may run a nursery club out there to maximise retail activity.
Title: Re: India
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 25, 2016, 10:40:10 PM
I don't know but I wouldn't have thought shirt sales would be too great. In a poorer country such as India wouldn't most football shirts be fakes, rather than the overpriced, sweatshop-produced originals?
Title: Re: India
Post by: four fornicholl on July 25, 2016, 10:46:41 PM
I don't know but I wouldn't have thought shirt sales would be too great. In a poorer country such as India wouldn't most football shirts be fakes, rather than the overpriced, sweatshop-produced originals?
Do they not cut out the middle man? ;)
Title: Re: India
Post by: olaftab on July 25, 2016, 10:51:54 PM
Yes faking it is a problem however Pune is a young vibrant place full of  totally aware well educated savvy punters who would spend good money on original branded stuff. City has a population of about 4 to 5 million so could be an interesting market place.
Title: Re: India
Post by: Salsa Party Animal on July 25, 2016, 10:55:55 PM
If we can find a world class Indian player from the Midlands or India and a World Class Chinese player for Aston Villa we would be very very popular. If South Korea can manage to develop good players enough for Premier League, then they could look at South Korea and Japan for role model.
Title: Re: India
Post by: LeeB on July 25, 2016, 10:58:21 PM
It will probably end up producing fuck all, and quietly die a death, but hey, at least he's having a go.
Title: Re: India
Post by: Gregorys Boy on July 26, 2016, 12:21:04 AM
Just the way the game is going.  I'm not moved by it either way.  Our problems right now have very little to do with the brand of Aston Villa itself.  Rather its because of years of mismanagement and how far we have fallen behind many other clubs.  We're a big club anyway, and that's not going to change anytime soon.  Likewise we are not going to get any bigger anytime soon either.  Partly because of us, and partly because of the way football is. 

This does send signs to me than our new owner might not be in this for the best of reasons.
Title: Re: India
Post by: peter w on July 26, 2016, 06:22:42 AM
It's all about shirt sales really. We don't expect many Indian lads turning up here very soon. We may run a nursery club out there to maximise retail activity.

Doubt it. How many genuine shirt sales will you see in India? never mind that there is very little in terms of football shirts across the board but given the price the cheap knock-off alternatives will always appeal. This is just a link-up to try and tap into a market with potential 500m or so potential players coming through. I actually mentioned this to the General back in around 2006 that the sub-continent should be tapped into given the amount of people there and the lack of any English football club's footprint.
Title: Re: India
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on July 26, 2016, 08:32:18 AM
The more we can reinforce the special relationship between India and Brum the better imho. Good stuff.
Title: Re: India
Post by: brian green on July 26, 2016, 08:52:33 AM
Agree cig.  Screw the Northern Powerhouse.  Hello Asia.  Besides the Bears will love us even more if a few of our incomers also play the summer game.
Title: Re: India
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on July 26, 2016, 09:38:08 AM
It's all about shirt sales really. We don't expect many Indian lads turning up here very soon. We may run a nursery club out there to maximise retail activity.

Doubt it. How many genuine shirt sales will you see in India? never mind that there is very little in terms of football shirts across the board but given the price the cheap knock-off alternatives will always appeal. This is just a link-up to try and tap into a market with potential 500m or so potential players coming through. I actually mentioned this to the General back in around 2006 that the sub-continent should be tapped into given the amount of people there and the lack of any English football club's footprint.

I gave away a few old Villa shirts to Sherpas in Nepal about ten years ago; I'd like to think that I was the driving force behind this foray into the sub continent.
I'm probably responsible for the boost in sales for Muller yoghurt in Kathmandu too.
Title: Re: India
Post by: Dave Javu on July 26, 2016, 10:24:48 AM
My mum told me about this. I said "If this comes off I'll eat 'my hat,  Ma' “
Title: Re: India
Post by: LeeS on July 26, 2016, 12:21:02 PM
I didn't believe this story when I read it. I thought it was Uttar rubbish
Title: Re: India
Post by: Percy McCarthy on July 26, 2016, 01:09:50 PM
My mum told me about this. I said "If this comes off I'll eat 'my hat,  Ma' “

Quality.
Title: Re: India
Post by: brian green on July 26, 2016, 01:36:42 PM
I tried to buy a new motor once in India.  I told them I wanted a shiny biege one but they showed me a tan dull car.



Title: Re: India
Post by: Dave Javu on July 27, 2016, 10:46:18 AM
If this catches on, in a few years we could have fixtures of New Delhi Villa v Buenos Aires Villa.

I reckon there'd be some right Argie Bhaji in that one.
Title: Re: India
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on July 27, 2016, 10:58:17 AM
You can almost hear the kids out in India "Mum, buy me a Villa shirt".
Title: Re: India
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on July 27, 2016, 10:59:23 AM
Incidentally, and nothing to do with this thread - do people still order curries 'on the bone'?
Always used to make me laugh.
Title: Re: India
Post by: peter w on July 27, 2016, 11:00:01 AM
You can almost hear the kids out in India "Mum, buy me a Villa shirt".

Ha ha ha. Very good (just in case).
Title: Re: India
Post by: peter w on July 27, 2016, 11:00:45 AM
Incidentally, and nothing to do with this thread - do people still order curries 'on the bone'?
Always used to make me laugh.

What? You mean like at 8 in the morning?


(Yes, I know)
Title: Re: India
Post by: DB on July 27, 2016, 11:10:47 AM
Well good luck I say if the club are going to tikka chance at the Indian market.
Title: Re: India
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 27, 2016, 12:07:30 PM
You can almost hear the kids out in India "Mum, buy me a Villa shirt".

Took me a while. Doesn't work as well using Brummie pronunciation.
Title: Re: India
Post by: stuart r on July 27, 2016, 12:15:45 PM
Incidentally, and nothing to do with this thread - do people still order curries 'on the bone'?
Always used to make me laugh.

1979, Dilshad, Sutton Coldfield, my first restaurant curry. My Dad orders chicken biryanis for me and my brothers and chicken dansak for him and Mom and then says loudly in his embarrassing Dad way "breast off the bone". Barking it across the whole restaurant... And he still says it now... and me and my brothers still cringe now.
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