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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: cyrilina on July 15, 2016, 11:56:08 AM
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So... SWFC are charging £42 for away fans at the season opener...... so much for the Twenties plenty campaign and making visiting supporters pay a fair amount.
We will be every clubs cup final this season, so do we anticipate every club jacking up their prices when we come to town?
It could be possible that we pay more for championship away fixtures than we did for premiership games.... I hope not.
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I like to save a few quid as much as anyone else, but why should away fans be charged less than home fans ?
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£42?!! I assume we get a meal with that?
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I like to save a few quid as much as anyone else, but why should away fans be charged less than home fans ?
Because they have to pay more in travel. If every team abides by the same rules then Wednesday would benefit when they play away matches.
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I might be wrong but I don't think the prices will be too bad overall. I reckon it'll be clubs like Sheff Wednesday, Norwich and Leeds who will take the piss a bit.
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Small Heath and QPR will take the piss. Possibly Wolves too.
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Small Heath and QPR will take the piss. Possibly Wolves too.
Forgot about Blues and QPR. Not sure Wolves will for some reason.
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Has conman launched an investigation? Or does he just specialise in ticket numbers?
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I like to save a few quid as much as anyone else, but why should away fans be charged less than home fans ?
Because they have to pay more in travel. If every team abides by the same rules then Wednesday would benefit when they play away matches.
If you're watching the same event, why should it matter how much it has cost you to travel?
For the Bristol City game, should I pay more for my ticket than someone who's traveled from Birmingham ?
Please note, I'm not arguing against reciprocal pricing agreements (especially if they save me some money), I'm just trying to understand why its felt that away fans should pay less than home fans to watch the same game
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Why should we pay more simply because we're better than some of the other dross in the league? I hate category pricing.
The quality of football doesn't not correlate to the number of pounds the fans have in their pockets.
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I like to save a few quid as much as anyone else, but why should away fans be charged less than home fans ?
Because they have to pay more in travel. If every team abides by the same rules then Wednesday would benefit when they play away matches.
If you're watching the same event, why should it matter how much it has cost you to travel?
For the Bristol City game, should I pay more for my ticket than someone who's traveled from Birmingham ?
Please note, I'm not arguing against reciprocal pricing agreements (especially if they save me some money), I'm just trying to understand why its felt that away fans should pay less than home fans to watch the same game
You can't have pricing worked out on mileage, it would be far too complicated and would, in any case, benefit glory-hunting bellends.
What you can do is assume that away fans, generally, will have spent more to attend a game than home supporters. Given that half the time you need to be a season ticket holder to get to away games, reducing away prices is also a good loyalty bonus for some of the most dedicated fans.
I'd like to see a cap on home prices but, realistically, it won't happen. Still the cap on away tickets in the Premier League is a good thing and it is disappointing that the Football League hasn't followed suit, effectively forcing fans to pay more for an inferior product.
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Living in Yorkshire the past few years I was looking forward to attending some away games, not happening now-complete rip off!!!
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Huddersfield will be cheap, I expect. Not sure about Rotherham as they only have a diddy ground.
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Small Heath and QPR will take the piss. Possibly Wolves too.
£27 to £34 for Leeds fans at QPR first game (upper & lower tiers).
As to whether away fans should be charged less than home fans, I don't think they should. It's only fair that it's the same price as the corresponding position in the ground that home fans pay - the problem is that it's ALL too expensive.
We're going to be in the Category A band at most grounds, so will get hit like Liverpool, Man U, Man C, Arsenal, Chelsea fans have for years in the Prem - at all places including Villa Park. Sheff Wed seem to have half a dozen categories and although there's only £3 difference to us as Cat A and those in Cat B - it's £22 difference to the lowest category. It is unfair, but our club has for a long time been guilty of this too.
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That's not too bad. I'm sure I paid £46 for a "Gold" ticket at Loftus Road the other season.
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£42.00 for away fans is ridiculous!! It is worth noting that Sheffield Wednesday are fleecing their own fans also. I checked their website this morning thinking a home ticket might be cheaper. They're charging £42.00 for their spion cop, £45.00 for their north stand and £49.00 for their south stand. I'd love to go but I'm not sure now. UTV VTID
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There is absolutely no way I will pay £42 to watch Villa away in the championship (it is also on Sky as well)!
Until people boycott these games nothing will happen and clubs will continue to charge exorbitant prices!
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We'll still sell out, so as long as that happens they'll continue fleecing fans.
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I was really looking forward to going back to Hillsborough. As it is the decision is out of my hands because we are away but I wouldn't be going at that price on a Sunday.
Stay away, nothing else will work.
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effectively forcing fans to pay more for an inferior product.
I find it very hard to imagine we'll witness anything this year as bad as we did last year.
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Well, I am in the away scheme for 3 tickets. It is appalling and I am sure most wednesday fans agree, I would be suitable upset if we did it to other clubs.
I will just return the tickets as one of the 5, I can miss and watch on TV.
It's a shame and I am fortunate that I could afford to go but out of principle will not pay it and hope others would do the same
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Well, I am in the away scheme for 3 tickets. It is appalling and I am sure most wednesday fans agree, I would be suitable upset if we did it to other clubs.
I will just return the tickets as one of the 5, I can miss and watch on TV.
It's a shame and I am fortunate that I could afford to go but out of principle will not pay it and hope others would do the same
Do you think it'll be any different for any of the other away games though? We'll be the highest category for every single team this year so whilst they might not all be quite £42 they're all going to be expensive.
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Yes, I think it should, will and can be different for clubs. Reading are going to Charge £20 etc and I am sure there will be others
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Sheff Weds was an away game I really wanted to do, but £42? I think i'll swerve it just on principle. Not only screwing us but their own fans as well.
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We'll still sell out, so as long as that happens they'll continue fleecing fans.
i would hope so the initial alloation is only 2000
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We'll still sell out, so as long as that happens they'll continue fleecing fans.
What annoys me is that we are a Category 1 game. Leeds fans two weeks later occupying the same run down shed of a stand watching the same donkeys in blue and white, yet they're Category 2 and pay less. Same shit product, same shit stand, probably double the police, cheaper tickets.
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You're right though PWS, we're all principle now, but when we're jonesing like a smack head for a football fix, we will fill out that upper tier and the rich Wednesday twat will say I told you so.
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That's not too bad. I'm sure I paid £46 for a "Gold" ticket at Loftus Road the other season.
Same here!
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According to a Sheffield Wednesday fan at work, they're talking about boycotting the game.
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According to the Sheffield Wednesday forum it's fine because we're the richest fans in the country.
Wish someone would tell my bank.
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After Sheffield Wednesday you would think Small Heath, Leeds and Norwich will be around £45 but everyone else should be reasonable. Good to see Reading are charging £20. We play them away on a Tuesday night but we should take 4000+ there at that price, if we're playing well.
We will still easily sell the initial 2000 for Sheffield Wednesday despite the price. We'll take around 4000 as it's the opening game in a new division, new owner, new manager.
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Hate the price but want to go just to help boost my away history to give me a chance of picking and choosing games later in the season.
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Hate the price but want to go just to help boost my away history to give me a chance of picking and choosing games later in the season.
Buy the ticket for the booking history and then give it me. We both win. Honest.
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Don't be silly, neither of us will win. Sheffield Wednesday will.
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Don't be silly, neither of us will win. Sheffield Wednesday will.
Nah
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£42 to watch a second tier football match. Boycott is the only answer for this disgusting behaviour, home and away fans alike. The greedy bastards are killing the game
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Don't want to go overboard over this but it's nothing short than disgraceful.
In real terms take a top premiership fixture example: Arsenal v Spurs or Man Utd v Man City the away fans will be paying £30.00.
For a second tier game £42.00.
There has to be something wrong trade wise.
Sheffield Wednesday of all clubs in football owe something to supporters. Their pricing shows anything but.
I hope everyone boycotts the game, I know it's not going to happen. People will clamber to want to be at the game. Good luck to those who do go I won't be one given all the factors Sunday late afternoon and horrible price.
I just hope we sting them when they come to Villa Park. Should only be charging Rotherham fans £5 just to wind up the money grabbing gits down the road .
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The Wednesday fans didn't set the ticket prices and shouldn't be punished for them.
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I just hope we sting them when they come to Villa Park. Should only be charging Rotherham fans £5 just to wind up the money grabbing gits down the road .
What cd said above. Other fans are allies, not enemies.
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The only way forward though would be for Wednesday fans to start complaining that they are being charged daft money for away games, due to their own club ripping away supporters off. This is not a new problem - Bristol City fans boycotted the fixture last season (again first or second game of the season).
When you sit down and take yourself out of your Villa armour then you realise just how poor the situation is.
People will go - Di Matteo's first game. Would love to be a fly on the wall at the Villa when discussions were going on. No doubt there will be some people within the club will be thinking £42 is somewhat of a success if rumours are correct as to what Wednesday did want to charge.
I am just so frustrated that I cannot justify to myself that I need to be there at £42 a throw (plus £2 villa transaction charge).
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The only way forward though would be for Wednesday fans to start complaining that they are being charged daft money for away games, due to their own club ripping away supporters off. This is not a new problem - Bristol City fans boycotted the fixture last season (again first or second game of the season).
When you sit down and take yourself out of your Villa armour then you realise just how poor the situation is.
People will go - Di Matteo's first game. Would love to be a fly on the wall at the Villa when discussions were going on. No doubt there will be some people within the club will be thinking £42 is somewhat of a success if rumours are correct as to what Wednesday did want to charge.
I am just so frustrated that I cannot justify to myself that I need to be there at £42 a throw (plus £2 villa transaction charge).
The idea that we should rip supporters off so they will complain to their own club is totally wrong. They ARE complaining - that's the point. Their club rips them off, it rips away fans off and the one thing you can guarantee is that the people who set the prices never pay a penny to watch any match home or away.
I don't need to take off any armour, thank you very much, I've been campaiging for supporters for years and one thing that still annoys me is when our own fans see those from other clubs as lesser beings who should be treated badly. They aren't the enemy - they're exactly the same as you and I, and we should all be on the same side. I'd charge them the least we can and make a big play of the fact that we're saving them money as we know they have to pay so much at home.
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The only way forward though would be for Wednesday fans to start complaining that they are being charged daft money for away games, due to their own club ripping away supporters off. This is not a new problem - Bristol City fans boycotted the fixture last season (again first or second game of the season).
When you sit down and take yourself out of your Villa armour then you realise just how poor the situation is.
People will go - Di Matteo's first game. Would love to be a fly on the wall at the Villa when discussions were going on. No doubt there will be some people within the club will be thinking £42 is somewhat of a success if rumours are correct as to what Wednesday did want to charge.
I am just so frustrated that I cannot justify to myself that I need to be there at £42 a throw (plus £2 villa transaction charge).
The idea that we should rip supporters off so they will complain to their own club is totally wrong. They ARE complaining - that's the point. Their club rips them off, it rips away fans off and the one thing you can guarantee is that the people who set the prices never pay a penny to watch any match home or away.
I don't need to take off any armour, thank you very much, I've been campaiging for supporters for years and one thing that still annoys me is when our own fans see those from other clubs as lesser beings who should be treated badly. They aren't the enemy - they're exactly the same as you and I, and we should all be on the same side. I'd charge them the least we can and make a big play of the fact that we're saving them money as we know they have to pay so much at home.
One day football club supporters will realise they have more in common with each other than with the owners, directors, managers and players of their clubs. I can't see it happening any day soon, though.
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SWFC fans don't deserve to be punished more. They're getting ripped off at Hillsborough too and are largely on our side over this. How could we take the moral high ground over this if we stoop to the same level?
Look at the public praise Reading got yesterday for announcing away fans will be charged £20. I'd rather Villa get that sort of reputation than what Sheffield Wednesday are getting.
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Sheffield Wednesday are getting a lot of flak over their ticket prices, which is fine, remember they are stinging their own fans too. They are only part of the problem though. What about SKY. They continually
sh-t on real supporters in favour of their favoured armchair subscribers. 4.30pm kick-off on a Sunday is their responsibility, so what subsidy are they directly offering real supporters to help them attend games that are live on their channel? Remember football is nothing without the fans who turn up home and away, yet sky continually take the P-ss out of these supporters.
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Most away fans are also home fans.
The vast majority of our away contingent are season ticket holders, a very small proportion will be fans taking in only a couple of games a season, because away tickets are limited in number, and mainly go to people who attend the majority of home games.
Therefore, being an away supporter is an additional cost for a home supporter, regardless of travel.
For most away supporters they have pad a lump sum for their season ticket, and then find money on top of that to buy away tickets and trek up and down the country. I am quite happy for away fans at Villa Park to pay less than me because
* it happens within a framework where my fellow Villa fans who find their way up and down the country to support my team benefit too (and that will include myself about half a dozen times a season)
* away fans contribute to the atmosphere that makes football such an exceptional spectator sport and I don't want them priced out - (& they are more easily priced out than home fans because it is an additional cost on top of their home support AND they have to travel)
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I thought Category pricing went out with the ark. How small time.
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Oh shit.
I've just realised something. The England band. They're Wednesday fans.
We're going to pay £42 and have to listen to those gimps as well.
The horror, the horror.
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Oh shit.
I've just realised something. The England band. They're Wednesday fans.
We're going to pay £42 and have to listen to those gimps as well.
Yeah I keep forgetting their Weds fans too. It just gets better right?!
The horror, the horror.
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Think on avenge if we get charged between 27-34 in the Championship then that should be about right.
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Think on avenge if we get charged between 27-34 in the Championship then that should be about right.
That's what I am budgeting on. Have made commercial decision for league games that would be my upper ceiling.
Might change my mind for a Blackpool/Swindon/Arsenal end of season type of game
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The Football Supporters Federation launched a ‘Twenty’s Plenty’ campaign in recent years, designed to limit adult away ticket prices at stadia across the country.
And in recognising and rewarding the amazing contribution that fans make to the atmosphere at all EFL grounds, Reading Football Club have wholeheartedly backed the Twenty’s Plenty campaign for visiting supporters at Madejski Stadium in 2016-17.
Next season travelling adult fans, who are Season Ticket holders or Members at their respective clubs, will be able to come and watch their team take on Jaap Stam’s Royals for just £20!
Not only that, but our home adult supporters will also be able to purchase matchday tickets for just £20 in 2016-17, a lowering in ticket price that ensures we are directly rewarding Reading supporters with the same ‘Twenty’s Plenty’ reduction in the newly-named Eamonn Dolan Stand.
And there’s more! Concession matchday member prices have also been significantly reduced for both home and away fans! Supporters aged between 18-24 will pay as little as £10 for a Madejski Stadium matchday ticket bought in advance, while those members aged 65 and over can come and take in a Royals game for a price of just £13! And all fans, home and away, aged 17 and under will be able to secure a matchday ticket for a Royals game for just a fiver next season!
“At Madejski Stadium, we have always aimed to make football as affordable as possible for supporters of all ages as we recognise the considerable commitment fans make to our club,” explained Commercial Director Adam Benson.
“In union with a considerable reduction in Season Ticket prices in The Eamonn Dolan Stand this season, we have decided to lower the cost of matchday tickets, offering advance members ticket prices for adults at £20 for 2016-17.
“And by also capping the price of advance away tickets bought by all travelling members and Season Ticket Holders who visit our South Stand this season, it will be more affordable for away supporters to come to Madejski Stadium. We expect and encourage other clubs to follow our lead, allowing Royals fans to also benefit from reasonable ticket pricing when they journey up and down the country this season and beyond.”
Applying a ‘Twenty’s Plenty’ policy and reducing our matchday ticket prices even further for so many of our supporters means, as a club, we are actively helping football become even more affordable for fans – both home and away – in 2016-17.
This is a pricing strategy which demonstrates that Reading Football Club are listening to its supporters and football fans across the country – and we hope it will be a structure which other clubs will admire and adopt.
We fully anticipate other clubs will follow suit and reciprocal pricing arrangements to be put in place across the country, which will ultimately benefit Royals fans on the road as well. That is our ultimate aim.
Fans are the beating heart of football and those who follow their team home and away should be appreciated. We hope ‘Twenty’s Plenty’ and a pioneering matchday ticket pricing policy takes one step in the right direction…
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Be careful when talking about the Reading price. It is open to season ticket holders and members of the visiting side.
I remember in the 90's Norwich trying a scheme similar in nature, although the ticket office just ignored the restriction.
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Looks like the price didn't put too many off, sold out 2000 in a day. Requested more tickets.
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Seems like Derby away is going to be £36 for another game on Sky.
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Speaking to a Sheff Wed fan and he's complaining about the parachute payments relegated teams get. He feels it's not fair on them, which I think he has a point. Generally, the teams that go up are the shit teams who've just gone down because they have the money.
Should the payment not be removed? If you're shit and go down, that's your fault. We, for example, should've ensured we had players contracts in place to accommodate going down.
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I thought that our players contract meant that relegation cost them up to 50% of their wages
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They do. Parachute payments were initially introduced to stop clubs going out of business after the Premier League gravy train stopped rolling. It dies mean an unfair playing field though.
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Speaking to a Sheff Wed fan and he's complaining about the parachute payments relegated teams get. He feels it's not fair on them, which I think he has a point.
Was he whinging about them when Wednesday got relegated from the Prem?
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They do. Parachute payments were initially introduced to stop clubs going out of business after the Premier League gravy train stopped rolling. It dies mean an unfair playing field though.
The cynic in me says they were introuced to stop 2/3 of the Premier League voting to scrap relegation.
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Details from our away ticket meeting
BRISTOL CITY 2500 £30
IPSWICH 2045 £32.50
BARNSLEY 5700 £20
PRESTON 5500 £24
READING 4000 £20
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Details from our away ticket meeting
BRISTOL CITY 2500 £30
IPSWICH 2045 £32.50
BARNSLEY 5700 £20
PRESTON 5500 £24
READING 4000 £20
There'll be more of us than home fans at Barnsley given that allocation!
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Details from our away ticket meeting
BRISTOL CITY 2500 £30
IPSWICH 2045 £32.50
BARNSLEY 5700 £20
PRESTON 5500 £24
READING 4000 £20
There'll be more of us than home fans at Barnsley given that allocation!
Barnsley is a Tuesday night. The only way we'll take 5700 is if we're winning the league or at least near the top.
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Sod's Law that the easiest one to get tickets for is a midweek. A ground I've not been too, as well.
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Good on Barnsley, Preston and Reading.
As an away scheme member even £30 and £32.50 doesn't seem too bad after years of Chelsea charging £55.
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Gutted I can't do Preston as in London for the NFL that weekend.
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Gutted I can't do Preston as in London for the NFL that weekend.
That's why I'll be missing Preston as well.
Don't fancy a jaunt that far up the M6 and back in one day and then up to London for an early NFL game
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Gutted I can't do Preston as in London for the NFL that weekend.
That's why I'll be missing Preston as well.
Don't fancy a jaunt that far up the M6 and back in one day and then up to London for an early NFL game
I miss Fulham at home instead, at NFL a little bit later.
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Details from our away ticket meeting
BRISTOL CITY 2500 £30
IPSWICH 2045 £32.50
BARNSLEY 5700 £20
PRESTON 5500 £24
READING 4000 £20
Was anything said about the tickets not going on sale until closer to the games ?
Any idea when Brizzle City will be on sale ?
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Gutted I can't do Preston as in London for the NFL that weekend.
That's why I'll be missing Preston as well.
Don't fancy a jaunt that far up the M6 and back in one day and then up to London for an early NFL game
I miss Fulham at home instead, at NFL a little bit later.
Fulham is on the Saturday at the moment so, unless the Villa game is moved, I'm planning to do both
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Thought it was the Easter Monday bank holiday?
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Thought it was the Easter Monday bank holiday?
That's the away game.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36957131
Makes us look more than a little silly to be put up as the front of this particular campaign/whinge when we've just sold out a 4,500 allocation.
Not entirely surprising to see MOMS are behind it...
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I know we've paid it, but it doesn't make it right. There should be an ongoing protest across all 72 football league clubs until a cap is placed on away ticket prices. Bloody hell if the money-mad Prem can do it, surely the 'lesser lights' can?
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A statement from Sheffield Wednesday said pricing for their season opening game was dictated by demand and calibre of opposition, with Villa playing in the second tier for the first time since 1987-88.
"Sheffield Wednesday have in place a flexible ticketing structure that we implemented last season, whereby each fixture is categorised and priced respectively," the club said.
"This strategy worked very successfully amongst our fan base in 2015-16, borne out by a significantly increased average attendance at Hillsborough, and as such will be extended into the new season.
Yeah it was a real success. That significant increase in average attendances they claim, was 708 as they had their best season since being relegated in 2000.
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So far everything is wrong with the league always. Wendy daft prices and late going on sale, Derby late kick off with only trains back to the nw as well as tickets net cost £38. Bristol 3 weeks to game and no sign of tickets on sale. Not only is the division a lower standard in playing ability but a lesser class of clubs generally
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For the games at VP, Rotherham have been been given 2,488 at £25 a go. Huddersfield have 1,800 with an option to increase to 2,800. Also £25 a pop.
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So far everything is wrong with the league always. Wendy daft prices and late going on sale, Derby late kick off with only trains back to the nw as well as tickets net cost £38. Bristol 3 weeks to game and no sign of tickets on sale. Not only is the division a lower standard in playing ability but a lesser class of clubs generally
I got a price of £19 return from Chester..just jump on Mersetrail when you get back to Chester mate?
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For the games at VP, Rotherham have been been given 2,488 at £25 a go. Huddersfield have 1,800 with an option to increase to 2,800. Also £25 a pop.
"Form is temporary boys and girls, but class, that is permanent, and you know what, hehehehey, we have class!!!"
Copyright BZ, but definitely applies.
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villa are charging forest fans £35 for a sunday lunch game on sky.
the club deserve all the shit they'll get for that.
edit: as a consequence, forest are only taking 1,066 tickets initially.
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villa are charging forest fans £35 for a sunday lunch game on sky.
the club deserve all the shit they'll get for that.
edit: as a consequence, forest are only taking 1,066 tickets initially.
I'd heard we were working on reciprocal pricing arrangements with clubs so presumably that means Forest are planning to take the piss when we go there.
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Some tickets are £37 for our fans for that Forest game aswell. Shocking for a Sunday lunchtime game on Sky and will severely impact on the attendance.
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We've decided it's a category A game for some saft reason. Because of the pricing I may well not bother especially with the crap KO time.
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Yes I mentioned a while back we've put Forest as a Cat A game which looks pretty silly given the changed kick off time.
It would be a shame if after the first two games we go back to a sub 30k attendance against Forest.
Our crowds have been great so far but worth remembering you could sit anywhere in the ground for 25 quid or less....when was the last time you could do that at VP in a league game?
Can't see us drawing those crowds with 35 quid ticket prices except for Newcastle and SHA.
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There will probably be cheap tickets on seatwave, me and my old man got in for little over a tenner each for Rotherham.
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Got me a £10 ticket in the lower Holte for last Tuesdays game from Seatwave. About £14 once you've added on Seatwaves take and pound admin fee. Can't knock that.
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2000 tickets for Ipswich - £32.50-£37.50
5500 for Barnsley - £30. We won't sell that out on a Tuesday night.
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villa are charging forest fans £35 for a sunday lunch game on sky.
the club deserve all the shit they'll get for that.
edit: as a consequence, forest are only taking 1,066 tickets initially.
Couldn't agree more. Totally out of order.
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Seen loads of people complaining they haven't been able to get an away ticket so far because they've sold out so quickly. Then we get 5500 for Barnsley and my Twitter feed is full of people giving their references away.
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Only 2000 tickets for Small Heath away. Police advice.
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Once you're out of the Premier League and haven't got the likes of Man Utd, Liverpool, Man City etc who attract the day trippers and local away support, I don't see how you can possibly have category A games in the lower leagues. Forest wouldn't have been a category A match even when they were European champions.
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Seen loads of people complaining they haven't been able to get an away ticket so far because they've sold out so quickly. Then we get 5500 for Barnsley and my Twitter feed is full of people giving their references away.
It's hardly a major mystery. People work. Barnsley is Tuesday night.
Annoying that the one time we get a decent ticket allocation it's midweek.
In fairness, Wednesday gave us a decent allocation in the end, now I think of it.
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Only 2000 tickets for Small Heath away. Police advice.
Who says that?
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Pathetic if true.
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Saw earlier that the full allocation we give away fans this season is 2,819 of which 106 are restricted view.
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Where is restricted view at Villa? I've probably sat in every stand and, since the pillars came down from the old Trinity, I can't remember every having an impeded vision of the dross on offer.
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I'm assuming it's barriers etc, when in certain seats in the UT you have them blocking part of the pitch.
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I'm assuming it's barriers etc, when in certain seats in the UT you have them blocking part of the pitch.
We'd have had to pay extra for those seats last season.
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You'd hope they would have thought about this before building the new stand.
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Only 2000 tickets for Small Heath away. Police advice.
Who says that?
It was on Twitter, from the away ticket consultation group apparently. Small Heath will also only get 2000 tickets when they come to us.
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Saw earlier that the full allocation we give away fans this season is 2,819 of which 106 are restricted view.
Must be in the Doug if its the away allocation.
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People on Twitter saying the ticket office have said we've now sold over 4500 for Barnsley. We'd only sold just over 2000 yesterday meaning we've sold 2500 today? Struggle to believe that.
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It's gone down to a 5 or 3 aways hasn't it? I was hoping to buy a spare third ticket to build my boys away card for when he comes in a year or two.
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It's come from the Yorkshire Lions club about Barnsley. If they've sold 4400 now then they'll be gone before general sale. That end holds 7k so they may be able to ask for more unless it's restricted to 5500 because of their SAG.
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If we do sell out, which by the sound of things is whats going to happen, its a big fk off to all the other so called sleeping giants!
I'm going and am really hoping we do. A treat for my hard working teenage son, I have to drive. :(
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Seen loads of people complaining they haven't been able to get an away ticket so far because they've sold out so quickly. Then we get 5500 for Barnsley and my Twitter feed is full of people giving their references away.
It's hardly a major mystery. People work. Barnsley is Tuesday night.
Annoying that the one time we get a decent ticket allocation it's midweek.
In fairness, Wednesday gave us a decent allocation in the end, now I think of it.
We have 5k for Preston the following Saturday.
Think we'll shift about 4k for that, it's not that far from Brum on the train. I'm certainly up for that one, Deepdale is a nice stadium and we haven't played up there for ages. Good price aswell.
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Where is restricted view at Villa? I've probably sat in every stand and, since the pillars came down from the old Trinity, I can't remember every having an impeded vision of the dross on offer.
That corner bit by the Big Screen I've always thought looks pretty dodgy to sit in, not much segregation either although notice this season it's been sectioned off.
Edit; SHA only got 2.5k tickets for the Carling cup tie last season when they were entitled to more so Police couldn't really give us 4k.
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There's a small block of seats in L1 that are restricted view because of the Witton Lane stand, but we seem to have stopped selling them. I assume the away fan restricted view are all upper tier and like I mentioned i've noticed in the UT are because of barriers in the way.
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We haven't played up there in my lifetime. Preston will sell out no bother.
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I've noticed we don't sell tickets for the corner of the Witton lower where it joins the north any more. There is a barrier there now.
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We thought our record at Old Trafford was bad, we haven't won a league game at Preston for 44 years.
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Vic Crowe out!
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There's a small block of seats in L1 that are restricted view because of the Witton Lane stand, but we seem to have stopped selling them. I assume the away fan restricted view are all upper tier and like I mentioned i've noticed in the UT are because of barriers in the way.
I sat in a restricted view seat in P1 once (think that's the one, the block nearest the North Stand, top tier of the Witton).
It was designated thus because of the railings at the front of the seating block - they're about eye height when you sit down. At least they were for me, the view was pretty well blocked, but I could at least mitigate it by standing up, slouching whatever.
The worst view I've had anywhere was at Charlton the last time they were in the top flight (Barry sent off, Bent scored for them, IIRC). Right behind a fucking huge pillar.
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When The Ballpark in Arlington (the stadium of the Texas Rangers baseball team) was built in the early 90s, they deliberately including a section with pillars obstructing the view from some seats.
Even though there was absolutely no architectural/engineering reason to have pillars, they thought that it added character to the stadium by harking back to ballparks of the past.
Actually, it just means that there's seats obstructed views when there doesn't need to be. Stupid idea
(https://mlblogsstevestewart.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/porch1.jpg)
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5700 for Preston away, £24.
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Wish I was going to that but in London for the NFL that weekend. Why couldn't it have clashed with some meh trip like Reading?
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We thought our record at Old Trafford was bad, we haven't won a league game at Preston for 44 years.
I remember this well, my only visit to Deepdale, it was worth celebrating though - a 1-0 win with an 87th minute Willie Anderson header !
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My first ever villa game
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Wish I was going to that but in London for the NFL that weekend. Why couldn't it have clashed with some meh trip like Reading?
Much better that it 'clashes' with some utter rubbish like NFL I reckon. It's all about opinions!
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Notes from our away fan consultation group for upcoming away games:
Brighton (Friday night on Sky) - 2000-3000 depending on sales, £25
Leeds - 3000, £32
Norwich - 2500, £35. Reduced to £30 by our club as it's a Tuesday night just before Christmas. The club suggested they reduce QPR by £5 but the group said it would be better for Norwich.
QPR - 2500, £39 and £34
The decision for Blues to give us just 2000 tickets was decided at the start of the season, they'll also receive 2000 at VP. The decision was made by both clubs to reduce trouble, it wasn't a police decision but the police supported it (shocker).