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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: UK Redsox on July 15, 2016, 10:45:29 AM
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With the Premier League clubs dropping out of the revamped Johnstone's Paint Trophy, will Villa's U21s now be taking part ?
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/jul/08/new-efl-trophy-premier-league-academy-teams-fans
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmrIo3iWEAA1S9d.jpg)
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You would have thought there would have been a consultation process early on.
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https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2016/07/20/international-cup
Villa’s youngsters will compete in the Premier League International Cup for the 2016/17 season.
The competition has expanded to 24 Clubs – 12 domestic Clubs and 12 international Clubs.
It will see twelve of England’s best academy sides compete against twelve of the top development squads in the rest of Europe.
The competition will be open to players U23 so that Clubs will be permitted to name three over age outfield players and one overage goalkeeper.
The opportunity to play against B teams from across Europe has been challenging and an attractive development opportunity for coaches and players.
The competition will be split into six groups of four Clubs.
Each Club will play the other Clubs in their Group once, either home, away or neutral.
The top club in each Group plus the two best placed runners-up will advance to the knock-out stage.
Following rounds will be a straight knock-out (one leg) – quarter-finals, semi-finals and final.
Man City were the inaugural winners (2014/15) after beating Porto B 1-0 in the final at the City Academy Stadium, while Villarreal emerged victorious in 2015/16 final, when they beat PSV Eindhoven’s Jong PSV 4-2 after extra-time at Millwall’s New Den.
Teams included
Chelsea, Derby County, Everton, Leicester City, Liverpool, Man Utd, Middlesbrough, Norwich City, Reading, Sunderland and Swansea City.
AC Sparta Prague, Athletic Club Bilbao, Celtic, Dinamo Zagreb, FC Porto, Feyenoord, Hertha BSC, PSV Eindhoven, Benfica, Valencia, Villareal, Wolfsburg.
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Sounds interesting. Enjoyed watching some of the European teams in the NextGen. Might pop to some of these if they're at Villa Park.
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I guess that this means Villa won't be entering the Paint Pot
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I hope we don't.
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U21 domestic league fixtures
https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2016/07/20/premier-league-2-fixtures
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For this new Premier League 2 for U21's, how are Derby and Reading in Division 1 and us, West Ham and Newcastle in Division 2?
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Confirmed that Villa U21s are not in the revamped FA Trophy
http://www.efl.com/news/article/2016/efl-trophy-group-stage-draw-3209367.aspx
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For this new Premier League 2 for U21's, how are Derby and Reading in Division 1 and us, West Ham and Newcastle in Division 2?
I'm assuming because their under-21s are better than ours.
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For this new Premier League 2 for U21's, how are Derby and Reading in Division 1 and us, West Ham and Newcastle in Division 2?
I'm assuming because their under-21s are better than ours.
How did they assess that if this is a brand new format?
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It's a re-brand. We were already in the second U21 division:
Edit: bollocks, can't get that link to work. Anyway, we finished 7th last year in Div 2, Reading and Middlesborough being promoted.
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It's a re-brand. We were already in the second U21 division: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014–15_Professional_U21_Development_League
Yeah we lost to Arsenal in play off final didn't we so stay in Div 2
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U18 League Fixtures
https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2016/08/02/U18-fixtures-announced
Sat Aug 13 Arsenal A Arsenal Training Centre
Sat Aug 20 Reading H Bodymoor Heath
Sat Aug 27 Tottenham Hotspur A Tottenham Hotspur Training Ground 12noon
Sat Sep 10 Brighton and Hove Albion H Bodymoor Heath 1.30pm
Sat Sep 17 Southampton A Staplewood Training Ground 12.30pm
Sat Sep 24 Chelsea H Bodymoor Heath 11am
Sat Oct 1 Fulham A Fulham Training Centre 12noon
Sat Oct 15 Swansea City A Landore Training Centre 11am
Sat Oct 22 Norwich City H Bodymoor Heath 1pm
Sat Oct 29 West Ham United H Bodymoor Heath 11am
Sat Nov 19 Reading A Reading Training Ground 12.30pm
Sat Nov 26 Arsenal H Bodymoor Heath 12noon
Sat Dec 3 Southampton H Bodymoor Heath 11am
Sat Dec 17 Leicester City A Leicester City FC Academy 11am
Sat Jan 7 Tottenham Hotspur H Bodymoor Heath 12noon
Sat Jan 14 Chelsea A Cobham Training Ground 12noon
Sat Jan 21 Fulham H Bodymoor Heath 12noon
Sat Jan 28 Norwich City A Colney Training Centre 1pm
Sat Feb 4 Swansea City H Bodymoor Heath 12noon
Sat Feb 11 West Ham United A Little Heath Sports Ground 12noon
Sat Feb 18 Leicester City H Bodymoor Heath 11am
Sat Mar 11 Merit Group 1
Sat Mar 18 Merit Group 2
Sat Apr 1 Merit Group 3
Sat Apr 8 Merit Group 4
Sat Apr 22 Merit Group 5
Sat Apr 29 Merit Group 6
Sat May 13 Merit Group 7
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A Villa XI beat Tamworth 3-1 last night. Hepburn-Murphy scored twice.
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Anyone go? I assume it was the kids?
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Anyone go? I assume it was the kids?
Billed as an U23 team according to Pravda
https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2016/08/02/tamworth-pre-season-report
VILLA: Steer, Leggett, Suliman, Toner (C), Sundman (Abdoul 82), Abdo (Clark 31), Lyden, O’Hare, Hepburn-Murphy, Sellars (Cox 46), Davis (Humphries 77). Unused subs: Idem, Coates.
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A friend went, RHM was superb apparently, team in general looked good but there was a clear stand out.
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The Tamworth manager s called RHM a freak of nature. Very excited about this one. Not sure if he's first team ready for now but I imagine he will be at some stage this season
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It's very good to see that we have a couple in RHM and Green who look exciting, let's hope they are ready for some first team appearances.
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Does anybody know how Viktor Johansson is getting on? My Swedish friend asked - he's a big Hammarby fan.
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Apparently, he played very well indeed in a 4-0 defeat v Arse.
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The dates of Villa U23 side’s Premier League International Cup fixtures have been confirmed.
We are in Group E, joining Norwich City as well as Scottish side Celtic and Spain’s Valencia.
We will travel to Norfolk and host Valencia and Celtic.
The competition sees 12 of England’s best academy sides compete against 12 of the top development squads in the rest of Europe.
The competition is split into six groups of four clubs.
Premier League International Cup 2016/17 groups
Group A: Derby County, Sunderland, PSV Eindhoven, SL Benfica.
Group B: Manchester United, Middlesbrough, AC Sparta Prague, Villarreal CF.
Group C: Leicester City, Liverpool, FC Porto, VfL Wolfsburg.
Group D: Chelsea, Swansea City, GNK Dinamo Zagreb, Feyenoord.
Group E: Aston Villa, Norwich City, Celtic, Valencia.
Group F: Everton, Reading, Athletic Club Bilbao, Hertha BSC.
Premier League International Cup 2016/17 fixtures
*All kick-offs 7pm BST unless stated otherwise
October 5, 2016
Group E
Aston Villa v Valencia (Villa Park)
November 9, 2016
Group E
Aston Villa v Celtic (Villa Park)
December 5, 2016
Group E
Norwich City v Aston Villa (Carrow Road
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U18 League Fixtures
https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2016/08/02/U18-fixtures-announced
Sat Aug 13 Arsenal A Arsenal Training Centre
Sat Aug 20 Reading H Bodymoor Heath
Sat Aug 27 Tottenham Hotspur A Tottenham Hotspur Training Ground 12noon
Sat Sep 10 Brighton and Hove Albion H Bodymoor Heath 1.30pm
Sat Sep 17 Southampton A Staplewood Training Ground 12.30pm
Sat Sep 24 Chelsea H Bodymoor Heath 11am
Sat Oct 1 Fulham A Fulham Training Centre 12noon
Sat Oct 15 Swansea City A Landore Training Centre 11am
Sat Oct 22 Norwich City H Bodymoor Heath 1pm
Sat Oct 29 West Ham United H Bodymoor Heath 11am
Sat Nov 19 Reading A Reading Training Ground 12.30pm
Sat Nov 26 Arsenal H Bodymoor Heath 12noon
Sat Dec 3 Southampton H Bodymoor Heath 11am
Sat Dec 17 Leicester City A Leicester City FC Academy 11am
Sat Jan 7 Tottenham Hotspur H Bodymoor Heath 12noon
Sat Jan 14 Chelsea A Cobham Training Ground 12noon
Sat Jan 21 Fulham H Bodymoor Heath 12noon
Sat Jan 28 Norwich City A Colney Training Centre 1pm
Sat Feb 4 Swansea City H Bodymoor Heath 12noon
Sat Feb 11 West Ham United A Little Heath Sports Ground 12noon
Sat Feb 18 Leicester City H Bodymoor Heath 11am
Sat Mar 11 Merit Group 1
Sat Mar 18 Merit Group 2
Sat Apr 1 Merit Group 3
Sat Apr 8 Merit Group 4
Sat Apr 22 Merit Group 5
Sat Apr 29 Merit Group 6
Sat May 13 Merit Group 7
Is it possible to just turn up and watch these games? Is it free admission?
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Yes you can park just inside the gates and the Academy Team play on the fenced off pitch 50 yards away with the Under 16s playing across the way.
I went on Saturday and we drew 0-0 with Reading. The U23s drew 1-1 at Brighton last night.
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Thanks Larry. May pop to a few this season.
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Just in case anyone is looking for something to occupy them on bank holiday Monday afternoon and wasn't aware of this:
Villa’s U23s take on Newcastle United’s youngsters at Villa Park on Bank Holiday Monday and you could be there to cheer them on!
Kick-off in the Premier League 2 fixture on August 29 is 3pm.
Season ticket holders can use their season card to gain access to the Trinity Road Stand.
Prices for non-season ticket holders are £2 [adults] and £1 [juniors].
Tickets for the game can be purchased from the Trinity Road Kiosk (opposite the William McGregor statue) from 1.30pm on the day.
The Villa Village ticket office will be open from 11am-3pm on Bank Holiday Monday both on the telephones and counter for all other sales.
https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2016/08/25/u23-ticket-news
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Just in case anyone is looking for something to occupy them on bank holiday Monday afternoon and wasn't aware of this:
Villa 3-0 up after 46 mins......two goals from Kozak & one ( a screamer ) from C.H. Johan Abdoul.........Godzvilla!
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Just in case anyone is looking for something to occupy them on bank holiday Monday afternoon and wasn't aware of this:
Villa 3-0 up after 46 mins......two goals from Kozak & one ( a screamer ) from C.H. Johan Abdoul.........Godzvilla!
4-0...Kozak hat trick ..........Godzvilla!
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Was a good match. The ref was awful though!
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Internationals:
Easah Suliman netted the decisive penalty in @England U19s’ 9-8 shoot-out win over Holland. #AVFC
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Not a great result for U23s.
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RHM doesn't seem to be scoring much for the under 23s?
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Brighton and Hove Albion fan here. I saw on twitter last Thursday that Villa's U-18 coach Ben Petty was moving to Leicester City. Does anyone know if he was still in charge for Villa's U-18s match against Albion on Saturday? Or was someone else taking charge of the team, and if so, who? Thanks.
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Match report here (https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2016/09/14/brighton-u18-report)
I am under the impression Ben Petty left before this match.
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The Russian puts Villa 1-0 up after 12.
Live on Periscope
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Baggies equalised 1-1 don't know who got it.
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Baggies gone ahead 2-1
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Russian equalises on 35
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Albion got a 3rd just before HT
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Tshibola sent off. Will he be banned for first team?
2-5 BTW.
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Tshibola sent off. Will he be banned for first team?
2-5 BTW.
Not sure, but probably. Westwood prevails!
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The u23's seem crap this season.
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With the exception of RH-M and to a lesser extent Tshibola and the substitute right-back Corey Blackett-Taylor that was a very piss-poor performance by our second string. Very poor in defence, midfield similar to the first team and Kozak was about as mobile as the Eiffel Tower.
RH-M looked like a world-beater though, 'specially first half.
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When was the last first team quality player we brought through the system?
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Jack Grealish?
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Jack Grealish?
Forgot about him! Before that?
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There's a few this year that have got first team squad numbers - Nathan Baker, Gary Gardner, Jordan Lyden, Andre Green, Flabby of course going back a bit - Rushian H-M is knocking on the door, and Ciaran Clark has departed to pastures new, so not totally barren in terms of numbers but in terms of quality only Jack really stands out for me at present
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When was the last first team quality player we brought through the system?
Mark Albrighton hasn't done too bad since he broke through >:(
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There's a few this year that have got first team squad numbers - Nathan Baker, Gary Gardner, Jordan Lyden, Andre Green, Flabby of course going back a bit - Rushian H-M is knocking on the door, and Ciaran Clark has departed to pastures new, so not totally barren in terms of numbers but in terms of quality only Jack really stands out for me at present
*cough* Gary Cahill *cough*
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Not sure where to put this but Jordan Lydon has signed a 2 year contract extension according to twitter.
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Cahill is circa 2006 or something isn't he and Clark et all all around 2010. Apart from Grealish I'm struggling to think of anyone the last 6 years who've made an impact and that just isn't good enough.
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Cahill is circa 2006 or something isn't he and Clark et all all around 2010. Apart from Grealish I'm struggling to think of anyone the last 6 years who've made an impact and that just isn't good enough.
2008. If the OP includes Agbonlahor then Cahill is in too - he was in the same Youth Cup team as him (and Craig Gardner). But hey, whatever suits your argument.
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Cahill is circa 2006 or something isn't he and Clark et all all around 2010. Apart from Grealish I'm struggling to think of anyone the last 6 years who've made an impact and that just isn't good enough.
I suspect this is why did is no longer with us
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Under 18s 0-1 down against Chelsea at BH.
Live commentary here: http://livesportsfm.co.uk/player.aspx (http://livesportsfm.co.uk/player.aspx)
Playing very well it seems.
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We have deservedly equalized from a free kick and have adapted better to the gusting wind.
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Cahill is circa 2006 or something isn't he and Clark et all all around 2010. Apart from Grealish I'm struggling to think of anyone the last 6 years who've made an impact and that just isn't good enough.
Clark, Weimann, Bannan, Albrigton, Grealish, G Gardner, Baker. And you can add Lichaj, Herd, Hogg, Burke, Carruthers, Robinson, Johnson, Fonz as players in the pro leagues.
Not great but not terrible either. Who else who was in the top flight has brought through more over the last 6 years?
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Cahill is circa 2006 or something isn't he and Clark et all all around 2010. Apart from Grealish I'm struggling to think of anyone the last 6 years who've made an impact and that just isn't good enough.
Clark, Weimann, Bannan, Albrigton, Grealish, G Gardner, Baker. And you can add Lichaj, Herd, Hogg, Burke, Carruthers, Robinson, Johnson, Fonz as players in the pro leagues.
Not great but not terrible either. Who else who was in the top flight has brought through more over the last 6 years?
I'd say they were all fuckin dreadful for us other than Grealish. Like it or not I think our youth system has been grossly overrated over the years.
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And yet it's brought through at least 15 players in the last 6 years that are currently professional players. Who else can match that?
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And yet it's brought through at least 15 players in the last 6 years that are currently professional players. Who else can match that?
Doesn't every club produce professional players? I don't think it's much to shout about, most of them appear to be average, and played a part in our demise. Nothing to be proud about really.
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So tell me who can match that. Must be easy to do if every club does it.
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I'll look it up later but surely everyone produces pro players of limited quality or there would be no one playing in the lower leagues, we need to start producing again high level players, one or two in half a decade is poor. We've been spending ridiculous money and wages on very limited squad players that a decent youth set up should be able to cover.
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We are losing 1-0 to goal a few minutes before half time from De Pena, but came close to equalizing.
Villa go up the other end and it’s inches away from an equaliser, with Rushian Hepburn-Murphy (still a great name) rattling the crossbar with a ferocious drive from 30 yards!
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We won 2-1 against Boro at Darlington with goals from Kienan Davis and Khalid Abdo from the penalty spot.
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Villa’s U23 Premier League International Cup match with Valencia on Wednesday October 5 will now kick off at 8pm.
It was originally scheduled to start at 7pm.
Season ticket holders can use their season card to gain access to the Trinity Road Stand on Wednesday evening.
Prices for non-season ticket holders are £3 [adults] and £1 [juniors].
Tickets for the game can be purchased from the Trinity Road Kiosk (opposite the William McGregor statue) from 5.30pm on the day.
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Villa beat Valencia tonight 2-1 with two goals from Callum O'Hare.
Hopefully he is still alive after being chased down the tunnel by Valencia's big number 9.
It was a very eventful match with one of the Valencia coaches and one of their players being sent off and many players booked on both Teams. It went off several times during the game with officials on the pitch and the Valencia players spoiling for a fight several times most notably at Half Time and Full Time.
Good performance from our lads with Callum O'Hare, Kalid Abdo, Mitch Clarke and Rory Hale all outstanding.
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Well done lads. Be nice to have a run in this competition.
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Villa Ladies will be playing at VP for the first time on Sunday (not Saturday as put out on the official e-mail) 6th November vs Watford - 2PM KO
Not sure about prices but apparently they need about 700 there to prove it will be viable in the future - pity is the day after a home match as we might have picked up a few more - the lad and I are going and taking a chap from work who has never been to a footie match.
Rally round!
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U16s drew 1-1 yesterday. Cam got 20 minutes pitch-time.
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And yet it's brought through at least 15 players in the last 6 years that are currently professional players. Who else can match that?
I'd guess that the sales income from home grown players is probably in excess of what it cost to produce them. Which is comparatively a huge success compared to the senior squad's transfer dealings.
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This highly scientific study has us at 9th, with Southampton considered the best:
http://www.caughtoffside.com/2014/02/24/top-ten-most-productive-english-youth-academies/10/
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This highly scientific study has us at 9th, with Southampton considered the best:
http://www.caughtoffside.com/2014/02/24/top-ten-most-productive-english-youth-academies/10/
Thats a few years old isn't it!!!
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It's also a bit dodgy, they go back over 30 years and give Arsenal Keown but ignore Walters, Daley etc for us.
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It's also a bit dodgy, they go back over 30 years and give Arsenal Keown but ignore Walters, Daley etc for us.
That's science for you...
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The U23s lost 2-1 this afternoon at Bodymoor against Swansea. Gabby played for around an hour before being replaced by Rushian. Keinan Davies scored our goal.
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The U23s lost 2-1 this afternoon at Bodymoor against Swansea. Gabby played for around an hour before being replaced by Rushian. Keinan Davies scored our goal.
Gabby looking a bit out of shape (shock) from the alleged picture of him on twitter.
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I have a feeling he might be on the bench Sunday.
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I have a feeling he might be on the bench Sunday.
Nah...not till he can last 90 in the stiffs!
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I have a feeling he might be on the bench Sunday.
Nah...not till he can last 90 in the stiffs!
He wouldn't need to play 90. The fact that he's there and could come on might be enough of a psychological factor. And, with the game 1 - 1 at 80 minutes and him warming up to come on....who knows?
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Would be interesting;-)
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I have a feeling he might be on the bench Sunday.
Nah...not till he can last 90 in the stiffs!
Why do you call them "the stiffs"?
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I have a feeling he might be on the bench Sunday.
Nah...not till he can last 90 in the stiffs!
Why do you call them "the stiffs"?
Generic term for any reserve side.
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I have a feeling he might be on the bench Sunday.
Nah...not till he can last 90 in the stiffs!
Why do you call them "the stiffs"?
Generic term for any reserve side.
Not very nice when talking about your own. Just my opinion
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Reserve sides have been called the stiffs for decades.
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Reserve sides have been called the stiffs for decades.
Always been a term of endearment.
Aka "the crocks"...
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Reserve sides have been called the stiffs for decades.
Giving my age away:-)
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I've honestly never noticed before
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And as far as I'm aware nobody has any idea where it came from or why.
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And as far as I'm aware nobody has any idea where it came from or why.
"Stiffs" meant the dead didn't it? Those not in the limelight I suppose. If you upset the Chairman you were dead to him and sent to rot...
"Crocks" was for those coming back from injury
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Leicester U15s 0-3 Aston Villa U15s. Cam with 2 goals. A header and a left foot strike. Not bad for someone who's been out for 3 months!
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We are playing West Ham this morning at U18s and U16s so I am guessing Cam might get some time with the 16s. I hope to see him play soon.
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He is playing today for the U16s. 11am KO. Unfortunately I cannot make it this time but his Dad will let me know how he gets on.
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He is playing today for the U16s. 11am KO. Unfortunately I cannot make it this time but his Dad will let me know how he gets on.
Is Cam related to you or someone here?
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He is a former pupil of mine.
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I watched the U18s and we lost 2-1 to Top of the League West Ham in a very exciting game. It was also a very feisty game with two penalties and two Red cards plus many bookings. We have a pretty useful youth Team this year but only one player who in my opinion might make the first Team.
The U16s won 2-1 on the other pitch and I spent about 15 minutes watching them. They have some good players.
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He is a former pupil of mine.
Great stuff, thank you
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Harry McKirdy scored the winning goal for Stevensge today in a 2-1 away win. Assist from Henry Cowans.
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Aston Villa FC @AVFCOfficial 20m20 minutes ago #AVFC (https://twitter.com/hashtag/AVFC?src=hash) 1-0 #BRFC (https://twitter.com/hashtag/BRFC?src=hash) - GOAL - 24mins: @AaronTshibola (https://twitter.com/AaronTshibola) gives Villa the lead with a fine finish after neat work from Agbonlahor. Get in! #PL2 (https://twitter.com/hashtag/PL2?src=hash)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwHtJI5WYAAxicv.jpg)
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Aston Villa FC @AVFCOfficial 1m1 minute ago
#AVFC 2-0 #BRFC - MATCH PICS: Agbonlahor and @Rushcmpt combine to make it two. Lovely stuff! #PL2
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwHulmwXYAAohsd.jpg)Save
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Whats with the gloves... pansies!
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5mins mins to go, Villa still beating Blackburn 3-0 , goals from Tish and 2 to RHM ( just scored ) .
Gabby has has had a good game by all accounts and quote " not the greatest display from the middle man ( Tish ) but still some encouraging signs " ( cracking goal apparently ).
For non twitters see.... http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-u23s-vs-blackburn-12106556
Godzvilla!
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Aston Villa FC @AVFCOfficial 5h5 hours ago
FT: #AVFC 4-0 #BRFC. @AaronTshibola, @Rushcmpt x2 and @AndreGreen_ on target in big #PL2 win. Well done lads!
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Gabby played very well. I'm not a fan and one of my biggest problems with him is this position He has been taking up when the opposition back four have the ball which is basically in no mans land, neither pushed up front and putting them under pressure or dropped into midfield to help out. Last night He pushed up on them and hassled throughout showing for once desire to effect the game.
When we had the ball he was very lively coming off his marker to accept it played into feet and running at the defence or making little diagonal runs so he could be slipped in down the sides.
It remains to be seen if He has it in him to force his way back into the first Team but a fit Gabby might be useful to have at some point this season.
Just a word for his strike partner last night. Rushian was brilliant and at times unplayable.
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Quick reminder that Villa women finish the season at VP on Sunday 2PM KO
I think it is about a fiver to get in and if there is a decent show Dr Tony may be convinced we need more games to be played at VP.
UTVW!
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I thought RHM looked good when he came on for the first team earlier this season, certainly showed promise for the future.
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Villa U16s 2-0 Villa U18s. Cam scored 1.
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Legion, you rate Cam (Cameron?) a lot but not Hepburn ? Maybe if you'd taught him you would ;)
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Anyone heard news about Rangers nipping in for hepburn-murphy as he's stalled over a new contract?
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Anyone heard news about Rangers nipping in for hepburn-murphy as he's stalled over a new contract?
Just Twitter rumours.
Wouldn't be a bad loan move if Bruce doesn't fancy him just yet but it would be a shame to lose him permanently before we've had chance to see if he can do it at this level.
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Villa 1 - Watford 0
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Villa 1 - Watford 0
2 -0 and as I post 3 - 0!!!! 😃
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All I have done today is ask questions, so here's another one -
Does anyone know if the players away on England youth duties are back for Wednesday nights U23's home game v Celtic?
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All I have done today is ask questions, so here's another one -
Does anyone know if the players away on England youth duties are back for Wednesday nights U23's home game v Celtic?
Villa 1 - Watford 0
2 -0 and as I post 3 - 0!!!! 😃
4 - 0
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Do we have an under 21 team playing in the EFL trophy?
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No, don't think we qualified on previous U-21 league position even when most of the PL teams dropped out.
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Brum Mail
Aston Villa team news: Four senior players to feature against Celtic for under-23s
Villa will pick a strong side for the under-23s game tonight
ByAidan McCartney
12:01, 9 NOV 2016Updated12:01, 9 NOV 201
Aston Villa have confirmed that they will field four first-teamers tonight in their Premier League International Cup tie against Celtic.
Captain Tommy Elphick as well as fellow first team regulars Aaron Tshibola, Gabby Agbonlahor and Aly Cissokho will all play a part in tonight's match.
Young trio Rushian Hepburn-Murphy, Easah Suliman and Andre Green all miss out due to international action with England. They are heading to Wales for their UEFA U19 first round qualifying clash.
The match takes place at Villa Park, kick off 7pm. Villa began the four-game group stage of the tournament with a 2-1 win over Valencia last month.
Season ticket holders can use their season card to gain access to the Trinity Road Stand.
Prices for non-season ticket holders are £3 (adults) and £1 (juniors).
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Lost 0-3, Gabby had a penalty saved.
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There was a good crowd at VP last night. Does anyone know if there were more there than at The Hawthorns on Tuesday?
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Did anybody go, so we can have an appraisal of the players performance especially the 4 senior players?
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Aston Villa U15s 2 Wolves U15s 3
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FROM PRAVDA
Villa’s U23s take on Norwich City’s youngsters at Villa Park on Monday and you could be there to cheer them on!
Kick-off in the Premier League 2 fixture on November 21 is 7pm.
Season ticket holders can use their season card to gain access to the Trinity Road Stand.
Prices for non-season ticket holders are £3 [adults] and £1 [U18s].
Tickets for the game can be purchased from the Trinity Road Kiosk (opposite the William McGregor statue) from 5.30pm on the day.
The claret and blues have recorded three wins and two defeats in their last five fixtures across all competitions and looking to bounce back from their 3-0 Premier League International Cup loss to Celtic last time out.
Meanwhile, the Canaries, relegated from the top-flight in 2015/16, currently prop up the Premier League Two table with seven points taken from nine games.
They have, however, racked up four wins out of their last six matches – including a 5-0 thumping of Barnet in the Checkatrade Trophy.
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The game's currently live on Facebook, of all places.
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Fantastic. The commentator is very professional also
Being a bit of a technophobe why the hell are love heart and thumps up etc floating across the screen
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watching it, they're 0-1 up but we've been the better team from what I've seen and they've had chances on the counter (I missed the goal though). Green and RHM have a lot of quality but we haven't quite made it happen yet.
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Kozak, Tshibola and Green all start
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Goalkeeping error for the goal. Punched it into his own net
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Fantastic. The commentator is very professional also
Being a bit of a technophobe why the hell are love heart and thumps up etc floating across the screen
People liking or loving the post. Put on full screen and you don't see them or the rather benign comments...
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1-1 RHM, really good build-up on the left between Green, Leggett and Kozak.
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probably the first time the ball has rolled for us in their 3rd, finish was a tap in from 2 yards into an empty net.
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The game's currently live on Facebook, of all places.
Do you have a link mate? I'm trying to find it on AVTV but they seem to have hidden it away! >:(
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1-1 HT
RHM could be a stunning player in a couple of years, he has so much potential, is scared the shit out of their defence.
Their 11 looks a handy player (Middleton).
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The game's currently live on Facebook, of all places.
Do you have a link mate? I'm trying to find it on AVTV but they seem to have hidden it away! >:(
Go to facebook and put avfcofficial into the friend search and it's the link with the Villa badge.
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1-2 to them, brilliant goal to be fair, their 11 ripped our right back a new one and put in a beauty of a cross then a decent finish on the end.
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The game's currently live on Facebook, of all places.
Do you have a link mate? I'm trying to find it on AVTV but they seem to have hidden it away! >:(
Go to facebook and put avfcofficial into the friend search and it's the link with the Villa badge.
Gracias as the Spaniard said to the hula dancer! :)
Damn, just get on to see Norwich score :(
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Keinan Davis on for us, I've really liked the look of him before so interested to see how he goes here.
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Seems weird not having Jack Woodwank's inane prattle on the commentary. Did I say "Weird"? I meant "Good"!
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RHM down with an injury, not sure how the challenge that caused it wasn't a 2nd yellow for their guy, really poor tackle.
and had to go off.
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KMac has looked totally disinterested all night, what is he doing?
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Only watched the second half but I was impressed by Rory Hale who appears to have a chance and by Middleton the Norwich player.Did Tish play in the first half?
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Only watched the second half but I was impressed by Rory Hale who appears to have a chance and by Middleton the Norwich player.Did Tish play in the first half?
Yes mate
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Watched second half of this, one thing that struck me was the amount of times we gave the ball away under little pressure. Pretty poor I thought and there wasn't anyone I thought stood out.
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Haven't Villa sacked KMac yet, bloody useless (imo)!
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Watched second half of this, one thing that struck me was the amount of times we gave the ball away under little pressure. Pretty poor I thought and there wasn't anyone I thought stood out.
Andre Green didn't exactly enhance his reputation did he?
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The Under 23s have beaten Stoke today, 2 - 4 away. .............Godzvilla!
Libor Kozák scored a brace as Villa U23s came from behind to see off Stoke City in their Premier League Two encounter at Clayton Wood.
The Potters took the lead on 16 minutes – Hakim Abdallah meeting Oliver Shenton’s cross.
Villa responded and were level soon after - Kozak converting from the penalty spot after a foul in the box.
The Young Lions were pegged back a minute into the second half – the lively Shenton firing home from the edge of the penalty area.
Once more, the visitors regrouped and levelled proceedings just four minutes later – Corey Blackett-Taylor finishing well from close range.
Kozak grabbed his second of the afternoon with just over 20 minutes remaining – showing his predatory instincts at the back to head home a deflected cross.
In truth, the claret and blues could have extended their lead earlier, Andre Green’s thumping effort crashing off the woodwork.
Yet Green turned provider moments later – his inch perfect cross picking out Callum O’Hare to head across goal and into the right hand corner.
Line-ups
STOKE U23: Isted, McJannett, Sweeney, Edwards, Sadiki, Waddington (Campbell 64), Shenton, Molina (Dunwoody 64), Abdallah, Lecygne, Jarvis. Unused subs: Renee-Pringle, Gyollai, Silva.
VILLA U23: Sarkic, Linley, Finnerty, Abdoul, Leggett, Blackett-Taylor (Cox 74), O’Hare, Hale, Green, Davis, Kozak (Mooney 82). Unused subs: Idem, Prosser, Clarke. [/b]
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Aston Villa U16s 2 Arsenal U16s 2
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Former player David Hughes is the new U18 manager.
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Brighton U16s 2-4 Aston villa U16s. Cam with the first goal assist.
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Is Mark Delaney still in the youth set up?
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I think so.
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I think so.
That's good, didn't see his name when they listed those that had covered before Hughes took over
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Mark is still at the club. As far as I know He has never been in charge of the Youth Team. He was looking after one of the Academy Junior Teams and now seems to be in charge of the Under 23s alongside K Mac.
The Youth Team bosses Ben Petty and Tony McAndrew have both left the Club. Tony has been suffering with his health in the last year or so and I believe Ben left to take over Leicester City's Youth Team.
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Copied and pasted from the OS:-
Newcastle 4 Villa 2
"Game details
Match: Newcastle United U23 v Aston Villa U23
Date: December 12, 2016
Competition: Premier League 2
Venue: St James’ Park
Kick-off: 7pm
Attendance: 534
Weather: 6C, partly cloudy
Scoring summary
Andre Green (1 min)
Curtis Good (12 mins)
Stuart Findlay (42 mins)
Tom Heardman (61 mins)
Liam Smith (75 mins)
Keinan Davis (90+3 mins)
Analysis
Jerell Sellars made his return from injury as a young Villa U23 outfit fell to defeat against Newcastle at St James’ Park.
Villa took the lead in the first minute, courtesy of a lightning-quick counter-attack after clearing a Newcastle corner.
Corey Blackett-Taylor able to pick out Andre Green at the far post to finish emphatically.
In what was an open first quarter of an hour, the hosts levelled – Curtis Good heading home Callum Roberts’ right-wing free-kick.
Both sides could have taken the lead soon after – Roberts forcing Viktor Johansson into a fine save before defender Mitch Clark hit the woodwork with a close-range attempt.
Highly-rated Johansson showed his worth between the sticks throughout – on this occassion, Yasin El Mahanni unleashed a power-drive, the stopper equal to it.
The home side continued to threaten – Tom Heardman firing over the bar following a clever move down the right flank.
Stuart Findlay put the Toon Army ahead just shy of the interval – heading home Roberts’ cross.
They started the second half on the front foot and could have extended their lead – Joe Linley clearing off the line from a corner while Clark’s crucial block thwarted the run of Roberts.
To their credit the claret and blues kept pushing and went close through Keinan Davis and 51st minute substitute Sellars.
However, the hosts were strong and made it three courtesy of another Roberts corner, this time Heardman headed in.
With 15 minutes remaining, Liam Smith produced an emphatic finish.
Sellars looked lively and only a fine save from goalkeeper Rob Elliot, also returning from a lengthy absence prevented him from netting a consolation.
They did, however, reduce the deficit a minute later - Davis' effort deflecting off a Newcastle man into the net.
Line-ups
NEWCASTLE U23: Elliot (C), Williams, Gibson, Hunter, Good, Findlay (Satka 78), Mahanni (Holmes 69), Barlaser, Heardman, Charman (Smith 62), Roberts. Unused subs: Harker, Newberry.
VILLA U23: Johansson, Linley, Clark, Abdoul, Leggett (C), Blackett-Taylor (Cox 58), Suliman (Sellars 51), Doyle-Hayes (Clarke 74(, Green, Hepburn-Murphy, Davis. Unused subs: Idem, Finnerty.
Misconduct summary
Bookings
Newcastle - None
Villa
Johan Abdoul (Foul)
Jerell Sellars (Foul) "
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U23 team playing Fulham at Besot this evening. KO 7-00pm
Team;
Sarkic
Linley, Leggett, Clark, Abdoul
Clarke, Blackett-Taylor, Sellars, Green
Davis, RHMic
Subs;
Johannson (GK), Swift, Cox, Mooney, Prosser
Brum Mail doing Live text coverage.
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Clark and Clarke! We're fecked if they ever make the first team.
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3-2 in the lead currently (with 10 to go) goals from Green, Leggett and RHM. The latter is being described as a bit special.
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Finished 3-3. Equaliser for Fulham in the 84th minute.
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Another thing I don't like about women's football is the superfluous 'ladies' at the end of every team name. Yes, we get it. The league is called So and So Women's league so why patronise them even further by a pointless suffix?
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Villa will face either Broxbourne Borough or Yeovil Town in the FA Youth Cup fifth round – if we can make it past Blackburn Rovers next week.
The draw for the fifth round was made this afternoon at Wembley Stadium.
We face Rovers at Ewood Park in the fourth round this upcoming Wednesday - kick-off 7pm.
If we defeat Rovers, we face a home tie against one of Borough or Town.
Clubs must play their fifth round games by Saturday February 4 to complete the line-up for the quarter final.
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Aston Villa U15s 4-1 Leicester U15s. Cam with 2 goals and an assist.
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Villa winning fa youth cup game on pens. I watched thev1st 90 0-0 no one particularly stood out. But keeper and kersey money look decent
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Won 7-6 on Penalties after 0-0 AET.
The lads showed a lot of bottle as did the Blackburn youngsters. 13 successive penalties converted is good going.
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Had forgotten about that. Always like us to have a good run in the Yoof Cup. Might pop down if the next round is at Villa Park.
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Had forgotten about that. Always like us to have a good run in the Yoof Cup. Might pop down if the next round is at Villa Park.
Pretty sure it is, think the draw was known before this match and mentioned earlier on the thread
Home against Yeovil or Broxbourne Borough in fact
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We should go to that, if we can, then.
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Just checked, Broxbourne (ninth tier) beat Yeovil one-nil.
Fair play to them. Don't fuck this up, Villa!
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Just checked, Broxbourne (ninth tier) beat Yeovil one-nil.
Fair play to them. Don't fuck this up, Villa!
I had that their U18 beat their first XI, adult version, 6-1 in a pre-season friendly.
Their team is going to be raided by the big clubs soon and coaches too I suspect.
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Their first team don't look much good, bottom of their division and heading for the tenth tier of English football. Surely they should give some of their wunderkinds a go?
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Not widely publicised ( understatement !) but our under 2s are playing at Naaarich tonight in the Premier League International Cup - Group E -
First Half - Norwich City U23s 1 Aston Villa U23s 2 ( a header from Davis 29 and cracking 30 yarder from Jerrell Sellars to re-take the lead ...for us )
I can only find updates on this Norwich site : http://www.pinkun.com/norwich-city/updates_norwich_city_u23s_v_aston_villa_u23s_1_4847249
Sounds like we deserve our lead , Matt Jarvis playing for them ( under 23?! ) , RH-M gone off due to injury.
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Not widely publicised ( understatement !) but our under 2s are playing at Naaarich tonight
Literally the Villa babbies!
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Not widely publicised ( understatement !) but our under 2s are playing at Naaarich tonight
Literally the Villa babbies!
Apparently lots of dribbling going on.
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Not widely publicised ( understatement !) but our under 2s are playing at Naaarich tonight
Literally the Villa babbies!
Apparently lots of dribbling going on.
Dummies being spat out all over the pitch.
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Toys being thrown out of the pram everywhere.
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Ended up losing 4-3 and knocked out of the competition, though I work it out that we'd have to have won by at least three to go through so it was always unlikely.
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U23 v Middlesbrough at VP is being streamed live on the official Facebook page for anyone interested.
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Calder playing at left back, never seen him in defence before so maybe they're trying him out as the understudy for Amavi.
Our 5 (Suliman I think) looks a decent centre half from what I've seen, always fairly competent with the ball.
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Oh, and Sarkic looks a very good young keeper, confident coming off his line, good shot stopper and a big kick on him.
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Suliman is a good footballer...highly thought of in the England set up too.
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Can see why davis isn't playing over Gabby. Nowhere near ready.
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I wonder if Bruce is there ?
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He blooming well better be, given our recent squads and our options in defence right now I suspect 2-3 of these players will be on the bench against Preston.
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Unlucky from green. Great effort - then the follow up ballooned over.
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their left back = utter ****** who should be booked for that, it's petty as fuck to carry the ball 20 yards up field after giving away a goal kick and then just drop it on the floor, twat.
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Davis 90th min missed pen. 0-0.
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Can see why davis isn't playing over Gabby. Nowhere near ready.
Had a better 2nd half, he's been pretty unlucky that we haven't crossed well but he's battled really well and given their centre halves a bit of a battering and did really well in the move that led to their sending off, missed a penalty though which is frustrating. I honestly don't think he'd be any worse than gabby.
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No strength at all. Penalties get missed so no problem with that, but in the first half he was head down and ran into 3 players when a little lay off to the left would have seen McKirdy through. Not especially fast either. Just so-so for me.
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Hardly inspiring..Calder looks a good prospect as is Green of course. There is noone else remotely looking capable of breaking through the first team which is of deep concern. We are near the bottom of the U23 league and it's no surprise really...and there was a time when we was always challenging for the old Central League.
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Hardly inspiring..Calder looks a good prospect as is Green of course. There is noone else remotely looking capable of breaking through the first team which is of deep concern. We are near the bottom of the U23 league and it's no surprise really...and there was a time when we was always challenging for the old Central League.
Suliman and Sarkic look good as well. I've liked Blackett-Taylor when he's on the right but he looked really uncomfortable on the left tonight when he came on.
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Sarkic teh keeper? I saw him last season at Arsenal and he looked good then. He could be very good.
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how are the midfielders as there must be better players than Westwood and Gardner ?
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18 year old - 20 year old rookies in midfield are going to be just as lightweight as Westy and more nervous and therefore error prone than Gardner, surely.
I agree with introducing young pace up front on the wing with Green, but after that we are pretty thin on the ground as far as game-changers goes, I think.
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Sarkic teh keeper? I saw him last season at Arsenal and he looked good then. He could be very good.
Yeah, the keeper, he looked really assured last night, I like a keeper that takes shots without diving, shows that they understand the game and aren't just an athlete/shot stopper. It's the same reason why I like the look of Suliman as well, I like central defenders who don't actually have to make many tackles (but are good it when need be) but just have a knack of reading the play, it's why God was so good.
In midfield neither o'Hare or Hayes are ready, the latter is closer though, o'hare has loads of talent but he's a strip of piss.
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The Broxbourne Borough FA Youth Cup game has been arranged for Saturday 4th February at Villa Park at 11. It's the same day as Forest away but, given the 1730 kick-off of the latter game, attending both is doable.
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FROM PRAVDA
Villa are streaming our FA Youth Cup clash on Facebook Live this weekend.
Our Young Lions host Broxbourne Borough in the fifth round of the prestigious competition.
Tune into ‘avfcofficial’ and we’ll be showing the full 90 minutes as it happens on Saturday February 4, kick-off 11am.
You can, of course, also watch the game live and in person at Villa Park.
Prices for the match are £4 for adults and £1 for U18s - while season ticket holders are free of charge.
Supporters will be sat in the Trinity Road Stand Middle Tier.
Entry is via turnstiles 1-10.
Tickets are available to buy in advance from the Ticket Office - in person or by calling 0333 323 1874.
Our season ticket holders will have to book their tickets for the game.
Tickets will also be available on the day from the Trinity Road Ticket Office.
We expect a big walk up for this match so advise supporters purchasing on the day to ensure they have their ticket by 10.30am to ensure they avoid missing kick-off.
In terms of parking, please be aware that Brookvale Car Park is open – we suggest you use this. It will be open from 9am.
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I can't find the live stream anywhere.
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It is on facebook.
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I can't find it. Link?
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Are you not on facebook?
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Nope. I can see videos on the Villa Facebook page but only the match preview and such pish.
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1-0 about time 33 mins
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Some good stuff.Like the look of Alex Prosser (?)
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2 0 41 Harvey Knibbs with his 2nd
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43 Penalty to Villa blatant shirt pull.
3-0 Doyle-Hayes
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3-0
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43 Penalty to Villa blatant shirt pull.
3-0 Doyle-Hayes
The lad who took our penalty looks a very tidy player.
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4 0 48 Kelsey Mooney great strike
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Unilad.
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5 0 60 Harvey Knibbs hat trick
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6 0 64 Knibbs again i think
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6 0 64 Knibbs again i think
Or was it Hall??
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7 0 in stoppage time...Clark
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FT 7-0
Knibbs 4
Doyle - Hayes (Pen)
Mooney
Clark
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Oh God, not another Clarke.
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U23's beat Norwich 1-0 tonight. Green with the winner.
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U23's beat Norwich 1-0 tonight. Green with the winner.
Jacob Bedeau made his debut playing at centre back.
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There's a bit of a report here.
http://www.nonleaguematters.co.uk/forum/gforum.cgi?post=785154;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;;page=unread#unread
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Striker Kelsey Mooney son of Tommy, ex Watford and Blues, signs his first professional contract.
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The Tommy Mooney currently involved as a member of our Academy coaching staff.
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Aston Villa u16s 4-1 Leicester u16s
Cam with 2 goals.
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I watched the first half of that game before watching the second half of the U18s. It was 4-1 at Half time and we were all over them. I was very impressed with several of the players especially our No 8 who I think they called Lou and the Number 10 who might have been Cam (He definitely scored at least one goal)
Went to watch the second half of the U18s at half time. We drew 2-2 with Leicester with two goals from Jordan Cox.
The Under 16s were very impressive indeed.
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Always value your opinion Larry. Anyone good enough or close to breaking through?
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Yes. Cam has the number 10 shirt. Glad you've seen him at last.
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At Under 18 level we are going well in the FA Youth Cup but play a very strong Man City on Wednesday night so that might be the end of that unfortunately.
Although we have a nice Team with some good players there is no one I see who is close to breaking through.
The only one who might in my opinion is Mitchell Clark. Clark plays mainly at Centre Back is brilliant in the air and fast as anything and really loves a tackle. Problem is that He is probably 5'8" tall. He has played Right Back quite a lot for the U23s and maybe that will be his position.
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The number 10 was excellent. I really enjoyed the U16s yesterday.
Any idea who the No 8 would be ? He missed a penalty and then scored a header from a corner a few minutes later.
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I'll ask Cam's Dad.
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Some good stuff.Like the look of Alex Prosser (?)
Good player. Been at Villa since he was 7/8 I think. Talented lad as he can play anywhere across the back or midfield. Two footed. Currently holding in midfield for U 18's. (Well thats where he played on the Cup game).
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Cam had the mumber 7 shirt for a change yesterday.
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Just seen his two goals. Both quality finishes.
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I thought He might have been the 7. He played well too. We scored a great goal where the 10 turned the guy in midfield to start the move and and then was involved again before slipping the ball to Cameron for him to finish well. I noticed a guy on the embankment filming the match so I guess that is what you saw.
Cameron is a very good finisher from what I saw yesterday.
Villa don't give out Team sheets now for any of the games at Bodymore but I get to know the U18s because they are covered on the website. The U16s are a mystery to me and I was trying to hear what the players were calling each other to work out who was who.
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There were three Under 16s playing for the 18s yesterday. One was Aaron Presley, son of Steven Presley, who was there watching him play. The other was Right Back Walker who played in the Youth Cup Team last week so must be well rated. He was very competitive, shall we say. We also had a Centre Back called Revon (I might have played with his Dad some years ago)
A few players I didn't know but that is usual this time of year as all clubs let players go and start to look at next years crop.
The first Team were in for Training and Jack's Dad was at the game. I think He might represent some of our Youth players.
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Live Sports FM@LiveSportsFM 1h1 hour ago
Live from 6.30pm: #FAYouthCup Aston Villa vs Man City with Stephen Copping & Tom Clayton on http://livesportsfm.co.uk (http://livesportsfm.co.uk) #avfc #mcfc
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FA Youth Cup is live on the Villa Facebook page
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1-0 up.
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1-1
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1-1
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Cracking Citeh move, good save by our keeper.
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Holding on just a tad, crossbar twice, keeper and a great goal line clearance keep us level.
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No mugs this Citeh side . Unbeaten in 21 I understand. C'mon you Lions !
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Abdol looks like he can defend and play well forward. A left back!
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As soon as I say that he slips in the area and we almost concede... :-X
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Apparently Abdoul is a French lad of 19 whose normal position is CB. One for the future, hopefully. Unless he can translate for Kodjia ?
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Finally Citeh make it 2-1.
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3 mins to go after holding on desperately we concede. Who said we don't have a style of play throughout the club!
Citeh are very good it has to be said.
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That goal would of torn our 1st team apart. :-[ :(
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Well played the youth, Citeh are a very good side, heads up.
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Man City are a great Team and have not been beaten all season so it was always asking a lot from our boys but what an heroic performance they gave.
The workrate put in defensively would put the first Team to shame. It was obvious they were better than us and were camped out in our half for long periods of play but our players always closed down the player on the ball and doubled up on their very talented left winger Sancho in particular.
When we had the ball we played some nice stuff as well. Lots of great performances from all the lads with Finnerty, Jake Hayes and Jack Clarke outstanding but Mitchell Clark was absolutely awesome.
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We really have a Clarke and a Clark coming through?!
This will be brilliant, hope both make it through to the first team for that alone.
Nearly tempted for us to re-sign Ciaran.
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Man City are a great Team and have not been beaten all season so it was always asking a lot from our boys but what an heroic performance they gave.
The workrate put in defensively would put the first Team to shame. It was obvious they were better than us and were camped out in our half for long periods of play but our players always closed down the player on the ball and doubled up on their very talented left winger Sancho in particular.
When we had the ball we played some nice stuff as well. Lots of great performances from all the lads with Finnerty, Jake Hayes and Jack Clarke outstanding but Mitchell Clark was absolutely awesome.
A mate of mine knows Jack Clarke so I had a look at him last night and he had a fairly decent game. Man City played some very good stuff, their no 11 being especially good.
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We really have a Clarke and a Clark coming through?!
This will be brilliant, hope both make it through to the first team for that alone.
Nearly tempted for us to re-sign Ciaran.
Maybe we should sign a Clerk, really mess with their minds
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Johansson looks a good 'keeper, as well.
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Samba in the team V Wolves tonight.
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Great to see Lyden back. He's starting on the bench tonight.
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Samba in the team V Wolves tonight.
Rumbas in the crowd. Sambas in the team. Tangos in Witton all night long. I love our new South American owners. YI-Yi-YI-YI-YI-YIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
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Samba in the team V Wolves tonight.
Surreal.
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He looks like a giant in a land of minnows in the twitter feed photos
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1 down, Lyden on for Samba.
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Lyden equalises. 1-1. 74 mins. Knibbs on for Mooney.
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COME ON VILLA!!!
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2-1 Villa
Lyden fouled for a penalty. Hale scores.
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FT
Some great photos on twitter of Lyden celebrating like he'd just scored the winner in a Cup Final. Delighted for the lad after the lay off he's had. I hope Bruce was watching. Lyden needs to be shadowing Jedi from now on.
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FT
Some great photos on twitter of Lyden celebrating like he'd just scored the winner in a Cup Final. Delighted for the lad after the lay off he's had. I hope Bruce was watching. Lyden needs to be shadowing Jedi from now on.
That's been happening, it seems: http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2016/10/22/jedinak-offers-helping-hand-ease-lydens-pain.
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Fulham u16s 1-3 Aston Villa u16s. No goals for Cameron but coach said he was excellent. Only played 1 half.
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u23s are at home to Brighton, 2-0 up after 8minutes. It's live on facebook. Missed the first goal (sellars) but the 2nd was a beauty from Davis.
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Just logged on to Facebook Live to see this U 23 game and missed both goals !!
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got a link? just spent 10 mins looking for it of fecking AVTV :(
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https://www.facebook.com/avfcofficial/videos/1481211961922868/
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https://www.facebook.com/avfcofficial/videos/1481211961922868/
Cheers mate :D
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Sellars looks really special.
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Suliman is the star in this group, he looks like a top class centreback in the making to me - good in the air, quick, reads the game brilliantly, composed on the ball and big and strong enough to cope against most attackers.
Sellars and Blackett-taylor are enigmas for me, they both show flashes of real quality but at other times the game just bypasses them.
This is all only based on the 5-6 games this season I've watched on the facebook streams though.
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I enjoy watching these Under 23 games. It's a great idea to stream them on facebook. I missed both the goals as well.
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For those that watch the U23's on a regular basis, how is Bedeau coming along?
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Do they still have the junior games on at Bodymoor on Saturday mornings? If so does anyone know if there are any games on this Saturday 25/3
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We were due to play Spurs on Saturday but it has been called off because of their involvement in the FA Youth Cup.
The Youth Team and the Under 16s both play at Bodymore on Saturday mornings. It has always been possible to turn up and watch the games but recently they have stopped people coming in without having a pass.
Fairly easy to get on the list but it means a trip to Villa Park and the club checking your ID.
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The U23 team lost 2-0 at Swansea last night. Link to report and the team:-
https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2017/04/10/swansea-away-u23-report
RHM and Green played the full 90 minutes.
The U23 side looks like it will stay in Division 2 of the Premier U23 league for another season. Wonder if this set of players and coaching staff is in need of a major shake up.
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I wouldn't be surprised if we made a few more signings like Bedeau over the summer.
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Isn't the issue here that we loan out most of our U23s to get them game time rather than playing in what's considered a soft U23 league? This is a critical age for their development and its been proved game time is more important than a less than competitive reserve/young players league?
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The U23s are Managed by Kevin McDonald and Mark Delaney at the moment. I would guess there might be some changes for next season.
The Team that played at Swansea was quite a young side and pretty much all of those players should be here next year.
We have got a number of the 19-20-21 Year olds out on loan and a decision has to be made about them. The truth is that apart from Ryan Mason at Doncaster none of the others have done very well and seem to be on the subs bench more often than not.
Calder, Cowans, McKirdy, Toner, Suliman, Hale, Abdo and Sellers are at an age where they should be pushing for the First Team if they have a future at the club.
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Cam's Dad has just had a meeting about his progress. They said how he has really come on this season and his Dad said he'd like to see him playing more in his natural position up top which was agreed with. He was told Cam can play in any of the top 4 positions so he said he's more of a threat to defenders when he's down the middle. He was told the coaching staff love the way he uses his left foot and said the way he can take corners with his left or right is outstanding. They said the last person they knew that could do that was Gordon Cowans.
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Cam's Dad has just had a meeting about his progress. They said how he has really come on this season and his Dad said he'd like to see him playing more in his natural position up top which was agreed with. He was told Cam can play in any of the top 4 positions so he said he's more of a threat to defenders when he's down the middle. He was told the coaching staff love the way he uses his left foot and said the way he can take corners with his left or right is outstanding. They said the last person they knew that could do that was Gordon Cowans.
Nice.
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Cam's Dad has just had a meeting about his progress. They said how he has really come on this season and his Dad said he'd like to see him playing more in his natural position up top which was agreed with. He was told Cam can play in any of the top 4 positions so he said he's more of a threat to defenders when he's down the middle. He was told the coaching staff love the way he uses his left foot and said the way he can take corners with his left or right is outstanding. They said the last person they knew that could do that was Gordon Cowans.
Nice.
Praise indeed :-)
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Jerell Sellars announced today that he is leaving the club. Just after his 22nd birthday.
First of several I would think and hope that are never gong to make the grade at Villa.
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Cam's Dad has just had a meeting about his progress. They said how he has really come on this season and his Dad said he'd like to see him playing more in his natural position up top which was agreed with. He was told Cam can play in any of the top 4 positions so he said he's more of a threat to defenders when he's down the middle. He was told the coaching staff love the way he uses his left foot and said the way he can take corners with his left or right is outstanding. They said the last person they knew that could do that was Gordon Cowans.
The last sentence is slightly worrying and indicative of footballers today. I personally never reached the level that Cam has but I had the same coach from the age of 11 through to 18. He was insistent that I learned to kick with both feet and I would spend half an hour at training just on building strength and ability in my left foot which was the weaker. As I got older I used my left foot far more than my right being heavily influenced by Bruce Rioch- and I always thought left footed players looked more balanced. Professional footballers should be able to kick with both feet- it is a coachable process if started early enough- good on Cam that he has mastered it already.
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I too can use both feet and have taken set-pieces with both feet (although admittedly corners and free-kicks with my left are no more than 50/50). It is a huge bugbear of mine when I see any player, least of all professionals, who cannot use both feet comfortably in a game situation. Not necessarily dead ball situations but when it comes to running with the ball, passing, shooting every player should use either without thinking. that commentators refer to players trying to get a ball onto their stronger foot, or that one player has only one foot but how good it is (Beckham) that he doesn't need the other foot winds me up. What are coaches doing? Every player should be taught to use both feet from the off. Ages 7, 8 and upwards. No excuses.
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More U23s reported leaving:-
Abdoul, Hale, and Linley.
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Hale was announced a week ago. Seems like one that we didn't want to lose but he's gone because we've not given him a chance around the first team. Given how poor our midfield has been I can sort of see the point.
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Whenever I watched the U23's online, Hale was one of a couple who stood out but I'm not sure he was quite ready for a championship midfield just yet.
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Villa Ladies come back from 4-1 down to win 5-4 against Durham.
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Villa Ladies come back from 4-1 down to win 5-4 against Durham.
Well done the women. Backbone. Spine.
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Hong Kong Soccer 7s Update:
Villa topped their group with two wins and a draw and are, as I watch at this godforsaken hour, beating Cagliari 3-0 in the quarter finals.
Harry McKirdy has scored in all four matches, he runs funny though, like he can't control his arms.
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Another tree creature. That's a good sign.
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And we've smacked four past Olympique Marseille in the semis. Leicester await in a couple of hours for the final.
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Hong Kong Soccer 7s Update:
Villa topped their group with two wins and a draw and are, as I watch at this godforsaken hour, beating Cagliari 3-0 in the quarter finals.
Harry McKirdy has scored in all four matches, he runs funny though, like he can't control his arms.
Harry scored a hat trick in 3 minutes in the first half vs Marseille. Villa in the final playing Leicester.
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I think we lost.
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I think we lost.
3-0.