Good stuff, well I say that in spite of having no clue about him, but given how poor we were in goal last year he must be an improvement.
Not a Guzan fan i take it?Good stuff, well I say that in spite of having no clue about him, but given how poor we were in goal last year he must be an improvement.
You could lay my miniscule todger across the goal line as a makeshift draft excluder and it would be a better bet to keep the ball out than Guzan.
What's he like at taking corners?
What's he like at taking corners?Can he also take goal kicks, throw it out to someone in a claret and blue shirt and not look as though he's going to cack his pants every time he has the ball in his hands?
Good stuff, well I say that in spite of having no clue about him, but given how poor we were in goal last year he must be an improvement.Only worry being he played in goal for a relegated team.
Good stuff, well I say that in spite of having no clue about him, but given how poor we were in goal last year he must be an improvement.Only worry being he played in goal for a relegated team.
Good stuff, well I say that in spite of having no clue about him, but given how poor we were in goal last year he must be an improvement.
You could lay my miniscule todger across the goal line as a makeshift draft excluder and it would be a better bet to keep the ball out than Guzan.
Archie?
Archie?
Sorry mates, he is terrible.
Bigger than Given.Who wouldn't be described as a giant, either.
Cmon, you'd better get used to it. All together now
"Gollini, oh oh oh oh, Gollini, oh oh oh oh,
he came from Italy
to be our new goalie,
Gollini etc etc etc
I'm fed up with it already.
Just looking at that promotion video he looks like he wants to make spectacular saves rather than safe ones. Spills the ball more than a couple of times and the vast majority of his saves appear to be to the left . Oh well time will tell and can't possibly be as bad as Guzan.
Think defence and midfield need more attention. But good to play a for the future and his signing should keep the other keepers on their toes.
I noticed that many of his saves were to his left, but I couldn't square that as a criticism, considering the attacking player had looked to put it past him on that side, what's he really supposed to do? Go the other way for a bit of variety?
I'm really happy about this opportunity. I'm a bit sad to leave Italy, because I love my country, but it is too important a footballing opportunity, so I can' wait to begin this new adventure. I've been to see the stadium; forty thousand people, it's an incredible stadium, an amazing sporting centre (he is referring to Bodymoor Heath here), structure of a Top Club. It's an illustrious ('glorioso') club and I can't wait to get started.
There was interest from several parties, but there were various reasons why it wasn't possible to bring the various things together. But this opportunity; Aston Villa really wanted me. The coach, Di Matteo, really wanted me as keeper. I think it's a really big opportunity for me.
Didn't Mellberg play for Verona? Or was it Laursen?Laursen.
Didn't Mellberg play for Verona? Or was it Laursen?Laursen.
Tony Moon too.
Didn't Mellberg play for Verona? Or was it Laursen?
Didn't Mellberg play for Verona? Or was it Laursen?
So far
Goalkeeper - young and hungry
CH - very experienced and captain material
CM - Very promising youngster with huge potential
That is almost a completely new spine - and if ever a team was spineless last year it was us
So striker next?
Didn't Mellberg play for Verona? Or was it Laursen?Laursen.
Tony Moon too.
So far
Goalkeeper - young and hungry
CH - very experienced and captain material
CM - Very promising youngster with huge potential
That is almost a completely new spine - and if ever a team was spineless last year it was us
So striker next?
Would like a couple of stand up and take notice signings now tbh.
Tshibola sounds talented but let's be realistic he's only played 15 games at this level so not really sure he can take games by the scruff of the neck like say a Will Hughes at Derby or Knockeart at Brighton.
Signing a proven goalscorer at this level like Bamford would excite me and if we can keep hold of Ayew that would be very decent with Gestede as back up.
I'd also look at signing Charlie Adam from Stoke. 1 year left on his deal and we've seen him have good spells of form at Stoke, he can score and set pieces are good.
People will say why would he drop down a level but Gayle and Ritchie did and Nolan also did when West Ham were relegated so it's not impossible saying as we actually have money now.
Heard the Tshibola deal had fallen through
made up that someone wants to come and play for the Villa. Good luck Pierluiqi
made up that someone wants to come and play for the Villa. Good luck Pierluiqi
You made him up? But he's on Wikipeadia and everything.
where does this leave Jed Steer? The Villa roster of young and failing players is considerable. Welcome Mr GOllini but you should be aware its a crowded place Villa for goalies unless one of the existing one goes. Siegrist has left, but unless I am mistaken Jed Steer is still on the payrollHas he definitely signed?
where does this leave Jed Steer? The Villa roster of young and failing players is considerable. Welcome Mr GOllini but you should be aware its a crowded place Villa for goalies unless one of the existing one goes. Siegrist has left, but unless I am mistaken Jed Steer is still on the payroll
Never known a club take so long to sign players!
We need a mass clear out and an influx of new fresh players but it's so slow! as usual!
Newcastle have acted promptly as we should have Dave?How many have they shifted out then?
You not agree?
Newcastle have acted promptly as we should have Dave?
You not agree?
Never known a club take so long to sign players!
We need a mass clear out and an influx of new fresh players but it's so slow! as usual!
Never known a club take so long to sign players!
Newcastle haven't just had a change of ownership and their manager's been there for the last part of the season in order to assess the squad.
What are we thinking in terms of order?
Gollini
Bunn
Steer
Guzan to leave? or Steer on loan again possibly?
So far
Goalkeeper - young and hungry
CH - very experienced and captain material
CM - Very promising youngster with huge potential
That is almost a completely new spine - and if ever a team was spineless last year it was us
So striker next?
Would like a couple of stand up and take notice signings now tbh.
Tshibola sounds talented but let's be realistic he's only played 15 games at this level so not really sure he can take games by the scruff of the neck like say a Will Hughes at Derby or Knockeart at Brighton.
Signing a proven goalscorer at this level like Bamford would excite me and if we can keep hold of Ayew that would be very decent with Gestede as back up.
I'd also look at signing Charlie Adam from Stoke. 1 year left on his deal and we've seen him have good spells of form at Stoke, he can score and set pieces are good.
People will say why would he drop down a level but Gayle and Ritchie did and Nolan also did when West Ham were relegated so it's not impossible saying as we actually have money now.
Charlie Adam is a good shout, 30 so still got a couple of good years in him at least, and he has never relied on pace as he's always been as quick as a snail!Heard the Tshibola deal had fallen through
Where you heard that?
I'm another who would happily let Guzan and Bunn both leave. I don't think a championship club can justify having 3 first team keepers.
I'm another who would happily let Guzan and Bunn both leave. I don't think a championship club can justify having 3 first team keepers.
I'm another who would happily let Guzan and Bunn both leave. I don't think a championship club can justify having 3 first team keepers.
valid point
Didn't realise but he's ex-Man U.
I like the fact that his name sounds as though it could be the Italian for goalie. Hoping we sign Strikerissimo next.
He played for the Italian equivalent of us last season, Verona were rock bottom for most of the season although they did rally towards the end.
Can he bring Luca Toni with him?
£4m for a championship club to splash out on a goalie is a big deal isn't it?
£4m for a championship club to splash out on a goalie is a big deal isn't it?
We're just passing through...
I'm another who would happily let Guzan and Bunn both leave. I don't think a championship club can justify having 3 first team keepers.
valid point
It is highly debatable whether Guzan or Bunn should be called first team keepers.
I'm another who would happily let Guzan and Bunn both leave. I don't think a championship club can justify having 3 first team keepers.
valid point
It is highly debatable whether Guzan or Bunn should be called first team keepers.
Bunn would be fine as number two choice. I think it will be between him and Steer though and one of them will have to go.
Didn't realise but he's ex-Man U.
So was Bosnich, look how that turned out.
Aside from the unfortunate slice clearance today I was really impressed. He commanded his area and made a couple of really good saves.
Looked good to me. Pity about the dodgy clearance but that could happen to anyone.
Cissokho put the ball where keeper was pressured, whereas 2 seconds earlier no pressure what so ever - assist for Cissokho.
Gollini had a much greater presence than Guzan and a better command of the area.
I don't think Guzan should have been judged the same way either
I don't think Guzan should have been judged the same way either
Guzan was judged on two years of mistakes couples with an appauling attitude, not one single mistake.
I don't think Guzan should have been judged the same way either
Guzan was judged on two years of mistakes couples with an appauling attitude, not one single mistake.
I don't think Guzan should have been judged the same way either
Guzan was judged on two years of mistakes couples with an appauling attitude, not one single mistake.
Apart from a bit of blown-out-of-proportion messing around at Gillingham, what else about his attitude has been called into question?
I don't think Guzan should have been judged the same way either
Guzan was judged on two years of mistakes couples with an appauling attitude, not one single mistake.
Apart from a bit of blown-out-of-proportion messing around at Gillingham, what else about his attitude has been called into question?
He also messed around at Wycombe :P
For what it's worth, in my opinion Elphick should have dealt with itProbably would have, if Gollini hadn't have come way out of his area and "took charge". They'll get used to each other over the next couple of games.
For what it's worth, in my opinion Elphick should have dealt with it
He did something similar in the first half, charging out to clear a ball that the defender could have dealt with, that time he just sliced into the Witton Lane.Yeah I remember that in the first half and commented that it looked like he just wanted a kick of the ball having rushed out so far. Both players had a few options, but between them they decided to do the one thing that lead to a goal...kicking it hard as you can straight at the player rushing towards you.
He did something similar in the first half, charging out to clear a ball that the defender could have dealt with, that time he just sliced into the Witton Lane. When the keeper comes that far it sort of forces the centre half to leave it or risk the him being stranded. If he stays back then it is a simple ball back to him. Other than that I think he's a decent keeper he just needs to know when to rush out and when to stay, that understanding should come the more they play together.
I saw the goals. The first goal was from a shot from tbd edge of the area that he parried. The striker reacted quicker than our defence, no big deal. He wasn't actually at fault for either of the other goals. The reaction here is over the top. He's young and will learn.of course he was at fault for the first,he pushed it a yard he should have held it,there was no power in that shot.His position for the second was awful.
Ironically Shay Given, who we let go last year, played for Stoke in the PL yesterday - looked assured but unlucky with the Baines penalty. Would rather someone like Boaz Myhill was brought in who wouldn't cost much.
The worry is that he is one mistake away from his confidence being shot, after seeing what happened to Guzan we really can not afford to take that risk.We need to back the lad for sure. But if there comes a time where a spell on the bench is best for him, I'm not fancying our alternatives. De Gea needing dropping in his first season but came back stronger for it.
I'd drop him. Think he will turn out ok eventually, but a 21 year old keeper in the championship? I could live with someone with half the talent but steady atm.
I'm not sure he necessarily has to catch rather than punch. It's more ensuring that if he punches he punches well.
I'd drop him. Think he will turn out ok eventually, but a 21 year old keeper in the championship? I could live with someone with half the talent but steady atm.
You'd drop him for Bunn despite him having not done anything wrong for the last 4-5 games and actually having played very well in a couple of them (he was excellent against Newcastle)?
I am worried about the fashion for skinny keepers. I always felt more confident with a big bastard going for the punch/catch who if he missed would at least wipe out a few. I blame John Burridge.
Bunn fas fucking awful today. I can't believe Steer isn't better, indeed if he isn't then he needs dumping.
Bunn is just clearly a third choice. What's Gollini's injury?
Bunn fas fucking awful today. I can't believe Steer isn't better, indeed if he isn't then he needs dumping.
But that's what happens when you suddenly get thrown in after eight games of the season as a keeper. Its probably the hardest position on the pitch for that to work because he's suddenly playing with a back four he doesn't know. Because of that I would cut him a bit of slack from today personally.
Plus he must at least train with them occasionally.Bunn fas fucking awful today. I can't believe Steer isn't better, indeed if he isn't then he needs dumping.
But that's what happens when you suddenly get thrown in after eight games of the season as a keeper. Its probably the hardest position on the pitch for that to work because he's suddenly playing with a back four he doesn't know. Because of that I would cut him a bit of slack from today personally.
Bunn isn't even a competent back up keeper. He's utterly dreadful, so being thrown in, while I take your point isn't easy, shouldn't lead to what he displayed today.
Bunn is just clearly a third choice. What's Gollini's injury?
Groin strain. Confirmed by RDM in his post match thread with the Beeb.
I just wouldn't dismiss him on the basis of one game. And there were a couple times today when he saved us from a heavier defeat. I do wonder if Steer would be a better option too.
Bye bye then, another crap signing poorly scouted.
Bye bye then, another crap signing poorly scouted.
Dont think Gollini was crap to be honest, made some rookie errors but I thought showed promise.
Bunn on the other hand is crap.
Johnstone on the evidence of the Spurs game looks a bit more physically ready for the English game, Gollini effectively pulling out of the collision for the Leeds goal kind of sealed his fate with Bruce I reckon.
Bye bye then, another crap signing poorly scouted.
Dont think Gollini was crap to be honest, made some rookie errors but I thought showed promise.
Bunn on the other hand is crap.
Johnstone on the evidence of the Spurs game looks a bit more physically ready for the English game, Gollini effectively pulling out of the collision for the Leeds goal kind of sealed his fate with Bruce I reckon.
Agree with all of this.
An 18 month loan is very unusual. I would hope that some form of loan fee has been negotiated as well. I see little point in allowing an asset out for so long otherwise, given the detrimental effect it will have on his value in 18 months time.
Still need to replace bunn
I read over here that it was a loan until June and that we could call him back if we need to. If we can call him back, then replacing Bunn in this window shouldn't really be necessary.
Its a shame but a keeper is the toughest place on the pitch
I always thought he was too young and inexperienced for this tough division. His legacy is that I can only remember the mistakes that cost us dearly compared to any great saves he made
says it all really
I'd much rather have kept him than Bunn that's for sure
Still need to replace bunn
No we don't, the bloke absolutely wreaks of understudy keeper and we have Sarkic up and coming
well stated Skillz - Bunn's definitely not number one material
Something i hadn't really thought about until today is that Gollini is only a couple of years younger than Johnstone and was at Man U a few years ago so when he left them there's a very real prospect that they decided to Keep Johnstone as the better prospect of the 2.
We should have sent him to one of those evening English language schools like on that TV programme in the 70s.
All sorts of fun and merriment could have ensued.
We should have sent him to one of those evening English language schools like on that TV programme in the 70s.
All sorts of fun and merriment could have ensued.
The Deathwatch Thread had me remembering Francesca Gonshaw and now my mind's wandering back to Francoise Pascal
Not happy with the training? Well we weren't happy with him dropping every bastard ball that came near him, or shanking clearances straight to the opposition, the butterfingered, nonagon footed, shortsighted, gangly limbed fuckwit.
Harsh??
Gollini terrified the life out of me. I'm glad he's gone. At least my ticker is.
what a loser. foreign born wants to be catered to and cuddled.Foreign born has nothing to do with it as we have seen with successions of home born wasters. Just modern F'ing footballers.
Got I hate these young, pretentious pre-madonnas. gtfoh.
So long, legend. We will not see his like again.
@ Ad@m - don't you think we have enough transfers to discuss ?!