Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: ADVILLAFAN on June 08, 2016, 03:31:38 PM
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When is the draw for the Football League Cup? Last year the 1st Round was drawn on the 15th June I think and we're in it this year from the start.
70 teams in the first round, to be played the week commencing 8th August. Imagine the top 35 teams will be seeded.
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Cannot find any draw dates or if there is seeding.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016%E2%80%9317_Football_League_Cup
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Pretty sure the 2nd Round is always seeded, so I just assumed the 1st Round was as well. Could be wrong though.
Hoping to get a team I haven't seen before, someone like Accrington Stanley.
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Looks like the first round is seeded.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015%E2%80%9316_Football_League_Cup#Seeding
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Pretty sure the 2nd Round is always seeded, so I just assumed the 1st Round was as well. Could be wrong though.
Hoping to get a team I haven't seen before, someone like Accrington Stanley.
That happened to Hull last year:
ALL three clubs relegated from the Premier League face away trips in the Capital One Cup first round (http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/448379/CAPITAL-ONE-CUP-DRAW-the-first-round-fixtures-in-full)
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My only worry is that if we lost we'd be hearing "Accrington Stanley, oo are dey? Exactly" for months.
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The 1st Rnd draw is usually out the day before the fixtures, so it should be 21st June.
Hopefully away, let's save the game included with season tickets until the semi-final!
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When is the draw for the Football League Cup? Last year the 1st Round was drawn on the 15th June I think and we're in it this year from the start.
70 teams in the first round, to be played the week commencing 8th August. Imagine the top 35 teams will be seeded.
When is the draw for the Football League Cup? Last year the 1st Round was drawn on the 15th June I think and we're in it this year from the start.
70 teams in the first round, to be played the week commencing 8th August. Imagine the top 35 teams will be seeded.
It was 72 teams last season according to adrenachrome's link
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Last year England had an extra place in Europe as West Ham qualified via the Fair Play nonsense.
This year England has the standard seven teams in Europe, all of whom receive a bye to the last thirty-two (Round Three).
That leaves twenty-five places up for grabs in R3 which means R2 must comprise fifty clubs.
This, in turn, means that Round One includes 70, rather than 72, clubs.
The two highest-finishing teams based on last season's placings join the remaining Premier League teams in Round Two. These are Newcastle and Norwich who finished 18th and 19th in last year's top flight.
We enter in Round One where we will be seeded along with the 21 remaining Championship clubs, the three clubs relegated to League One and all the teams that finished in the top thirteen of last season's League One.
Should we progress, we will be seeded in Round Two along with all the Premier League teams not in Europe, Newcastle, Norwich and the nine best-ranked Round One winners based on last season's table.
There. What could be simpler?
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Fascinating fact 1: we have never lost in the First Round of the League Cup.
Fascinating fact 2: in every single promotion season we have always beaten at least one top flight club in a cup competition.
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Great work CD.
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Wow, we're really going to earn the cup this year.
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Wow, we're really going to earn the c fuck it up this year.
FTFY.
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What will boil my piss is if we beat someone like Watford and the media declare it a 'shock' or 'giant killing'
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What will boil my piss is if we beat someone like Watford and the media declare it a 'shock' or 'giant killing'
How are the Mighty fallen...
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The draw is 1pm tomorrow, we're seeded in the south half of the draw and will play either AFC Wimbledon, Barnet, Bristol Rovers, Cheltenham, Colchester, Crawley, Exeter, Leyton Orient, Luton, Newport, Oxford, Plymouth, Portsmouth, Southend, Stevenage, Swindon, Wycombe or Yeovil.
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Wycombe again. Guaranbloodyteed.
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Barnet at home will do me. Cheap tickets and they would join Barnsley and Wycombe as sides i've seen Villa and Bromsgrove play in competitive matches. Actually, Crawley may qualify as well but can't remember being at a Bromsgrove game against them although the odds are decent I was.
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Let's have Luton. Then I can block the doors, set fire to the away section and be done with it for good.
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Newport would sort of qualify as well as I saw Bromsgrove play the old Newport County in the FAC. Exciting stuff eh!
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Barnet at home will do me. Cheap tickets and they would join Barnsley and Wycombe as sides i've seen Villa and Bromsgrove play in competitive matches. Actually, Crawley may qualify as well but can't remember being at a Bromsgrove game against them although the odds are decent I was.
Crawley were def in the Southern Prem through the late 80's / early 90's glory years :-)
I'd add Cheltenham to that list of both that I've seen if we draw them
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New grounds for me would be Barnet, Newport, Southend or Orient.
Quite fancy Orient away if there was any chance of blagging a ticket.
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Oxford away strikes me for some reason. Would be tricky mind.
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We'll get Portsmouth away.
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luton away.
an absolute hole.
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Away to Luton, I hear it's lovely there....
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Let's have Luton. Then I can block the doors, set fire to the away section and be done with it for good.
Enjoy!
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Maybe don't set fire to the away end Stu...
Hopefully the racist ****** will let us have some tickets for the match.
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I've only ever been past the ground on a bus but it the away end looks like it's been bombed from the outside!
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Luton's
Away to Luton, I hear it's lovely there....
Oh it is , 20% house price rise in last year its the go to place what with its ..erm ...erm ..well we have a new 5 guys restaurant and soon a 24hr starbucks
Kenilworth Road is an utter dump though , be nice if I could get tickets but doubt be a high allocation.
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Please sir - how can Villa be in the 'south' whilst Cambridge are in the 'north'?
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Luton away is good but do we have to play in the first round because we finished bottom?
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Handy for me if I can get a ticket.....
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We've played Luton nearly 40 times in competitive matches and managed to win only twice at Kenilworth Road which is pretty shocking; once in the League Cup in 1964 and once in the League in 1989
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At Luton? Bomb it.
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Who did Newcastle get?
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Who did Newcastle get?
They didn't. They are already in the next round, as are Norwich.
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Who did Newcastle get?
They didn't. They are already in the next round, as are Norwich.
The final indignity of the Lerner era - by virtue of finishing bottom we go in the first round of the league cup whereas Norwich and Newcastle get a bye.
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Never seen us win there, horrible place.
I went there as a kid and vaguely remember Gary Shaw scoring an absolute pearler. I'm sure he flicked it up once or twice and volleyed it in.
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Yes me too. I saw the late David Preece scoring a winner for them in late 1984 after I think we'd just sold Steve Foster to them?
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Have they still got those "executive boxes" down the one side that look like they're in someone's back garden?
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Have they still got those "executive boxes" down the one side that look like they're in someone's back garden?
Haven't been there, but I've seen it on TV and they kind of look like huts/mini-conservatories. Think they still have them.
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I remember Derek Mountfield scoring there early in 1989/90 when I think they still had the away fan ban. They definitely had that terrible plastic pitch.
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I remember Derek Mountfield scoring there early in 1989/90 when I think they still had the away fan ban. They definitely had that terrible plastic pitch.
I was there in the home end, there was still a ban. The only time I remember us getting a win there.
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Have they still got those "executive boxes" down the one side that look like they're in someone's back garden?
Haven't been there, but I've seen it on TV and they kind of look like huts/mini-conservatories. Think they still have them.
They do, before they built them, I sat in the stand that was there to watch my first ever Villa game in 84, we lost 2-0 I think.
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I've been there twice in recent years, both with Cheltenham. Last time I went I got half way down the road when I heard a commotion, turns out a dad of two was trying to kick off with some Cheltenham fans looking to get on the official coaches. The other time I went there 10-15 of them tried kicking off with a group of really young fans again just looking too get on the coaches home.
The turnstile consists of 2 people for the whole away end, then you have to walk up steps hanging over somebody's garden too get into the away end. The seats are really, really tight so leg room is very limited. The stewards are over the top, those garden shed/executive boxes are still there and if nothings changed then its unreserved seating. It really is one of the worst places too go, but worth the experience and I believe their looking for a new ground. We will get a maximum of 1800 tickets, 1,000 if they're feeling stingy.
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Does it still have that strange clock in the corner?
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Went there for the pre-season game a few seasons ago...weird ground amongst terraced houses.
Correct L and P - if you look to the side as you go up those steps you can see into someone's kitchen!
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When we got relegated last time we beat Spurs at home in the League Cup 2-1 and the papers were referring to it as a shock. I seem to remember Mark Lillis being involved in a scrambled winner.
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Ah yes, the days of beating the "away fan ban". We always found home fans to be very helpful in getting us tickets.
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Does it still have that strange clock in the corner?
Misread that as "cock" and assumed you were on about David Evans.
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Luton is an absolute hole and showcases the very worst aspects of modern Britain. Still, I'm looking forward to making the short trip over from Hitchin, Hertfordshire.
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When we got relegated last time we beat Spurs at home in the League Cup 2-1 and the papers were referring to it as a shock. I seem to remember Mark Lillis being involved in a scrambled winner.
Lillis was involved, but Aspinall got final touch. The headline in the Mail next day was 'Villa - The Giant Awakes!"
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I was a steward at Morecambe for awhile and they hosted Luton at least once during my time there, and did their fans not impress me. They were thugs, and unlikeable too.
As for the match if it was at home then I'd say it would be fairly routine (or as routine as it can be with Villa) but away it will be much tougher and could get ugly off the pitch sadly. Should get through, but would have liked pretty much anyone else.
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What will boil my piss is if we beat someone like Watford and the media declare it a 'shock' or 'giant killing'
How are the Mighty fallen...
In a similar vein, I looked at our preseason and was quite surprised we'd picked Middlesborough for our final home preseason match as we normally choose someone good to get us match fit.
I then realised that Middlesborough are a division above us and a little part of me died!
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The only time I have been to Luton was when Bosnich made his debut near the end of BFR's first season. We lost 2-0 and the ground was terrible. I'm sure we went in via someones back garden.
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The only time I have been to Luton was when Bosnich made his debut near the end of BFR's first season. We lost 2-0 and the ground was terrible. I'm sure we went in via someones back garden.
Yeah I was there, exec boxes all down one side. A charming place.
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Never seen us win there, horrible place.
I went there as a kid and vaguely remember Gary Shaw scoring an absolute pearler. I'm sure he flicked it up once or twice and volleyed it in.
I was at that game and it was a cracking goal. We lost 2-1, to a Paul Walsh winner IIRC. I recall the away end was open and they were lobbing stones / bricks into us after the final whistle.
A mate of mine lived there for 3 years a decade ago and it is a rough town. Lots of small minded people with a strong racist minority too.
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Never seen us win there, horrible place.
I went there as a kid and vaguely remember Gary Shaw scoring an absolute pearler. I'm sure he flicked it up once or twice and volleyed it in.
I was at that game and it was a cracking goal. We lost 2-1, to a Paul Walsh winner IIRC. I recall the away end was open and they were lobbing stones / bricks into us after the final whistle.
A mate of mine lived there for 3 years a decade ago and it is a rough town. Lots of small minded people with a strong racist minority too.
Was that the 1982-83 season ? If so, I was there as well, my one and only visit to Kenilworth Road.
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Never seen us win there, horrible place.
I went there as a kid and vaguely remember Gary Shaw scoring an absolute pearler. I'm sure he flicked it up once or twice and volleyed it in.
I was at that game and it was a cracking goal. We lost 2-1, to a Paul Walsh winner IIRC. I recall the away end was open and they were lobbing stones / bricks into us after the final whistle.
A mate of mine lived there for 3 years a decade ago and it is a rough town. Lots of small minded people with a strong racist minority too.
Was that the 1982-83 season ? If so, I was there as well, my one and only visit to Kenilworth Road.
Yes it was - around April time, as it was a sunny day. My only visit too.
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I just can't bring myself to care about this cup.
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I just can't bring myself to care about this cup.
Without this cup we wouldn't have had a trophy for 34 years.
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We are in the Championship. We shouldn't be dismissive of the cup like we are some PL playing for a CL place.
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I just can't bring myself to care about this cup.
Without this cup we wouldn't have had a trophy for 34 years.
I know Dave but I still don't care about it, I never have but I'm not taking anything away from past or future teams but as a fan I'm just not bothered. I don't understand why there are two domestic cups. Do other countries do it? I would rather add prestige to one cup personally. It would give our poor tired heroes abroad playing tournaments a little more rest.
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I don't care about it until we enter in the 2nd round.
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Never seen us win there, horrible place.
I went there as a kid and vaguely remember Gary Shaw scoring an absolute pearler. I'm sure he flicked it up once or twice and volleyed it in.
I was at that game and it was a cracking goal. We lost 2-1, to a Paul Walsh winner IIRC. I recall the away end was open and they were lobbing stones / bricks into us after the final whistle.
A mate of mine lived there for 3 years a decade ago and it is a rough town. Lots of small minded people with a strong racist minority too.
The tiny percentage of EDL pricks has given the town a bad name, but most folk got on well when I grew up there, the fact that the EDL could never drum up much support in the town shows this.
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I hope we win this game and get a glamour tie in the second round. The chance to see real premier league players at Villa Park would be a dream for an EFL club like us! Maybe we'll cause a shock by beating Watford, Burnley or Swansea.
I'm excited already!
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Nathan Jones says he will embrace his team’s “tough start” to the Sky Bet League Two season – and he told lutontown.co.uk how he is already looking forward to a famous cup night under the Kenilworth Road lights when Championship giants Aston Villa visit for the first home game.
Read more at http://www.lutontown.co.uk/news/article/nathan-jones-luton-town-plymouth-argyle-aston-villa-3150727.aspx#5RGzpo0Paos3LTFv.99
Had to smile when I saw this on Luton's OS.
" Championship giants", wow we are still a big club then!!
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Unless you have a massive squad to deal with the extra games then in our case I think its best to focus on the league. Not saying we should throw this cup, because it would help build momentum if we had a run in it, but we can't put the same amount of importance on it as we will the league.
Problem is with the Championship being such a close league, even if we're some way off the PO come Feb when the final is, or even if we are flying high near the top, there are still plenty of games to change that position. But since this is near the start of the season then we might as well go for it.
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No, let's win it and get promotion as well, just like '75.
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No, let's win it and get promotion as well, just like '75.
Now that is what I like to see
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No, let's win it and get promotion as well, just like '75.
Now that is what I like to see
Yes, and if we play such scintillating football as we did in the second half of that season, and storm to promotion, so much the better.
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No, let's win it and get promotion as well, just like '75.
Now that is what I like to see
[/quoNo, let's win it and get promotion as well, just like '75.
Now that is what I like to see
Yes, and if we play such scintillating football as we did in the second half of that season, and storm to promotion, so much the better.
Yes, and if we play such scintillating football as we did in the second half of that season, and storm to promotion, so much the better.
And bring back the great Ron Saunders as the boss.
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Anyone have a rough idea of allocation?
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Our first round clash with @LutonTown selected for @SkySports coverage – Wed Aug 10, kick-off 7.45pm. #AVFC
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I'll be there.
Possibly watching in one of the beach huts!
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Anyone have a rough idea of allocation?
Luton are now selling tickets for the game. According to the Luton website the Oak road stand is for away fans only - as far as I know it holds about 1500.
They are charging £18 for adults so is it safe to assume we will be charged the same ?
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I see they couldn't even get a sponsor for the competition this year.