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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Comrade Blitz on May 27, 2016, 01:48:54 AM
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A tad emotional, some if not all of the players will have their wages cut dramatically, if a boss said to me there has been a downturn so we will be cutting your wages in half I would be out the door quick smart.
The problem is that the two or three worth keeping will be targeted by other clubs and the others will find out that Villa were over paying them and we will be stuck with them.
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Hi John, I agree.
Keep Grealish, Ayew, Amavi and the babies.
The rest, fuck off and rot.
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There's a fair few I wouldn't mind keeping. However it seems they have release clauses as part of the deal which saw them agree to reduce their wages in the event of relegation.
I'd be sorry to see the likes of Ayew and Amavi leave, but if their clauses are set at a reasonable level it wouldn't be the end of the World.
The main one for me is Agbonlahor. I'll be massively disappointed if that waste of skin is still a Villa player come September.
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I agree with all that cdbullyweefan said. After the season we've just endured I wouldn't be too sad to see any of them go. I'm surprised some of them have the gall to think they're better than us though after the performances they've put in.
Getting rid of Gabby will be a minor miracle. Who would want him? Absolute disgrace.
It's also hard to feel sorry for them having their wages slashed. Good.
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It's also hard to feel sorry for them having their wages slashed. Good.
if their slashed wages still are more in 2 weeks than most see all year, well, bless their little cotton socks.
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There's a fair few I wouldn't mind keeping. However it seems they have release clauses as part of the deal which saw them agree to reduce their wages in the event of relegation.
I'd be sorry to see the likes of Ayew and Amavi leave, but if their clauses are set at a reasonable level it wouldn't be the end of the World.
The main one for me is Agbonlahor. I'll be massively disappointed if that waste of skin is still a Villa player come September.
That's a good point. Gabby.....I'd love it if he had his contract cancelled. Which, considering his appalling behaviour last season, wouldn't be at all unfair.
However, the animal in me would love to see him have to face us, one more time, at a packed Villa Park. The abuse would break the vertigo suffering, shit cap wearing fat shit.
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A tad emotional, some if not all of the players will have their wages cut dramatically, if a boss said to me there has been a downturn so we will be cutting your wages in half I would be out the door quick smart.
The problem is that the two or three worth keeping will be targeted by other clubs and the others will find out that Villa were over paying them and we will be stuck with them.
There's not one of them who doesn't deserve to have their salary at least halved. Keep the homegrown youngsters, anyone else can foxtrot oscar with extreme prejudice.
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I have a hunch, nothing more, that there is a club out there stupid enough to take Gabby off our hands. A bit of blind siding in China might work.
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A tad emotional, some if not all of the players will have their wages cut dramatically, if a boss said to me there has been a downturn so we will be cutting your wages in half I would be out the door quick smart.
The problem is that the two or three worth keeping will be targeted by other clubs and the others will find out that Villa were over paying them and we will be stuck with them.
However if the downturn was your own fault because you'd been slacking, causing trouble at work and generally not putting a shift in then you deserve what you get.
This current bunch of wimps, clowns, free loaders and shirkers don't deserve anywhere near £40k per week and now they won't be getting it either.
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It's worth spending 5mill or whatever paying Gabby's contract out and then cancelling it if there are no takers. Will be money well spent.
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It's worth spending 5mill or whatever paying Gabby's contract out and then cancelling it if there are no takers. Will be money well spent.
He might, just might, tear those Championship defences apart.
Or maybe not.
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It shows the dross we have on our books when I cannot think of a single player we would be worse off without. Normally there are one or two that are key.
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I'd give them all away. I'm so, so fucked off with them I just want a clean slate. They're all tarnished now.
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As said on many other threads by a lot of people
Guzan
Richards
Lescott
Gabby
Have got to go whatever way or method suits - in fact I would get them out BEFORE a new manager comes in
I do not want to hear any of the bollocks "Everyone has a clean slate" no they fucking do not
If you do not pull a rotten tooth it infects all the others - this was clearly evident last year
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I'm sure it's been said many time but;
Do everything we can to keep - Amavi, Ayew, Traore, Grealish
Keep if we don't get a decent offer - Veretout, Gana, Clark, Hutton, Gestede, Gil, Sinclair, Gardner, Baker
Everybody else over the age of about 20 can go away.
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A tad emotional, some if not all of the players will have their wages cut dramatically, if a boss said to me there has been a downturn so we will be cutting your wages in half I would be out the door quick smart.
The problem is that the two or three worth keeping will be targeted by other clubs and the others will find out that Villa were over paying them and we will be stuck with them.
Agree Robbo, but if you were that shit in your job, your wages wouldn't br reduced you would be out the door
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I did say the two or three worth keeping, there were players that were trying the trouble is that they were vastly outnumbered by those that were either shit or couldn't be bothered.
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I'm sure that's Nigel Farage addressing the EU
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I believe Amavi, Gana, Veretout and Ayew will want to get the fuck out of Bodymoor Heath as soon as possible. If not sooner.
And I think Guzan who had the makings of s half-decent keeper will want away just to get a fresh start. Can't see Richards rolling up his sleeves unless there's a hairdresser on standby. Looks like Okore's got his bags packed. Clark and Bacuna will probably get wooed away by the likes of WBA and Bournemouth whilst hoping for something better.
Cissokho, Richardson, N'Zogbia - nice work if you can get it.
Gabby on lots of money, Traore allegedly getting more by the match, might be prepared to get the deck chairs out and just watch the fun.
Kuzak - who he?
I can see Sinclair, Westwood, Sanchez, Grealish and Gil staying but can't offer a reason why.
Bunn
Hutton Youth Lescott Youth
Westwood Sanchez Bennett
Gil Agbonlahor Grealish
Plus whatever £100m can buy if we believe the papers/ the internet/ the voices in the head.
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I'm sure that's Nigel Farage addressing the EU
Applause.
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It's worth spending 5mill or whatever paying Gabby's contract out and then cancelling it if there are no takers. Will be money well spent.
He might, just might, tear those Championship defences apart.
Or maybe not.
the only thing flabby will be tearing apart is jumbo bags of monster munch
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N'zogbia and Bacuna will end up in Turkey or Greece.
Lescott and Guzan will go to the MLS.
Richards is the only one of our shower of shit that will find another Premier League club this summer.
Meanwhile, Agbonlahor will end up, ironically, in the UAE.
As I'm currently on fire on here regarding predictions (ref Dr X) let's see how wrong I am with these.
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Doesn't matter about Zog, he's out of contract very soon anyway. So at least we won't have to worry about whether we can fob him off on anyone.
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Doesn't matter about Zog, he's out of contract very soon anyway. So at least we won't have to worry about whether we can fob him off on anyone.
Thank f##k for that.
Happy 1st July in advance.
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Doesn't matter about Zog, he's out of contract very soon anyway. So at least we won't have to worry about whether we can fob him off on anyone.
Thank f##k for that.
Happy 1st July in advance.
It can be our Independence Day.
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As said on many other threads by a lot of people
Guzan
Richards
Lescott
Gabby
Have got to go whatever way or method suits - in fact I would get them out BEFORE a new manager comes in
I do not want to hear any of the bollocks "Everyone has a clean slate" no they fucking do not
If you do not pull a rotten tooth it infects all the others - this was clearly evident last year
I still think that's what tipped King And Berstein, Randy reneging on doing exactly this.
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I would be disappointed if Amavi went, but can understand why. Grealish can be a major force, Ayew has talent but his attitude stinks at times and not sure the championship will tempt him much. The other senior players, they can all go forth and multiply.
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They can all go as far as I'm concerned. I would keep Hutton as he was the only one who seemed to care last year. Gestede and Sinclair could do a job in the division we are now in. Grealish is all fart and no shit in my opinion.
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It's all a bit academic before somebody is actually appointed to be manager. I do understand that players' agents will be agitating to get them moved, any way that they can, back to the Premier League or abroad.
However, I'd expect a very good manager to persuade some of our better players to stay and fight it out in the Championship.
I'd also expect that same very good manager to have identified the players who are a bit of a waste of space in the squad, if that manager had done his homework on them, over the last season.
I suppose I'm really, really hoping that Tony Xia has done some similar homework to appoint a very good manager.
This waiting is crap, isn't it?
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I've bought a load of thank you cards ready to send to any club who takes any of them off our hands.
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They can all go as far as I'm concerned. I would keep Hutton as he was the only one who seemed to care last year. Gestede and Sinclair could do a job in the division we are now in. Grealish is all fart and no shit in my opinion.
Well I wouldn't mind fart like that in a semi final to get us into an FA Cup final like he did
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They can all go as far as I'm concerned. I would keep Hutton as he was the only one who seemed to care last year. Gestede and Sinclair could do a job in the division we are now in. Grealish is all fart and no shit in my opinion.
Well I wouldn't mind fart like that in a semi final to get us into an FA Cup final like he did
If he turns in 46 great farts to get us up next season I will be delighted to be proved wrong but I'm not holding my breath.
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They can all go as far as I'm concerned. I would keep Hutton as he was the only one who seemed to care last year. Gestede and Sinclair could do a job in the division we are now in. Grealish is all fart and no shit in my opinion.
Well I wouldn't mind fart like that in a semi final to get us into an FA Cup final like he did
If he turns in 46 great farts to get us up next season I will be delighted to be proved wrong but I'm not holding my breath.
Surely it's if he delivers 46 great farts that you'll need to hold your breath?
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They can all go as far as I'm concerned. I would keep Hutton as he was the only one who seemed to care last year. Gestede and Sinclair could do a job in the division we are now in. Grealish is all fart and no shit in my opinion.
I would rather have someone would didn't really care but was actually any good and showed it.
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They can all go as far as I'm concerned. I would keep Hutton as he was the only one who seemed to care last year. Gestede and Sinclair could do a job in the division we are now in. Grealish is all fart and no shit in my opinion.
I would rather have someone would didn't really care but was actually any good and showed it.
Competent and professional. Yes please.
PASHUN. No thanks. You'd have a team built of the likes of Hutton and Cattermole, coached by Pulis.
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I am not a fan of many of our players, but top of the poo list is Micah Richards. I really want him out. His ego is only matched by his lack of effort or ability.
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They can all go as far as I'm concerned. I would keep Hutton as he was the only one who seemed to care last year. Gestede and Sinclair could do a job in the division we are now in. Grealish is all fart and no shit in my opinion.
I would rather have someone would didn't really care but was actually any good and showed it.
None of them care(d) IMHO
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I can't picture a massive clearout happening. The world and its mother have been watching our players flute around on the park for the last 9 months and unless they are out of contract, we're stuck with them. Hopefully, the new manager will come in with clear ideas on how he wants to win football matches and have a realistic list of transfer targets together with a philosophy to get our current staff playing again.
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I am not a fan of many of our players, but top of the poo list is Micah Richards. I really want him out. His ego is only matched by his lack of effort or ability.
Sort of all shit and no fart then.
I agree by the way.
I'm not normally predisposed to acts of violence, but I could easily be persuaded where Richards and Agbonlahor are concerned.
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I would be disappointed if Amavi went, but can understand why. Grealish can be a major force, Ayew has talent but his attitude stinks at times and not sure the championship will tempt him much. The other senior players, they can all go forth and multiply.
Ayew? Attitude stinks at times????????? WTF ?
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I would be disappointed if Amavi went, but can understand why. Grealish can be a major force, Ayew has talent but his attitude stinks at times and not sure the championship will tempt him much. The other senior players, they can all go forth and multiply.
Ayew? Attitude stinks at times????????? WTF ?
West Ham away? Picked up a load of stupid yellow cards too
In comparison to Amavi and particularly Jack Who, he was a model professional though
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Ayew does seem frustrated a lot on the pitch, seems to get a bit petulant at times like West Ham away - but I can't blame him, imagine being the only decent player in that team? it'd piss anyone off.
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I would be disappointed if Amavi went, but can understand why. Grealish can be a major force, Ayew has talent but his attitude stinks at times and not sure the championship will tempt him much. The other senior players, they can all go forth and multiply.
Ayew? Attitude stinks at times????????? WTF ?
West Ham away? Picked up a load of stupid yellow cards too
In comparison to Amavi and particularly Jack Who, he was a model professional though
There's a difference between poor discipline and poor attitude of the kind displayed by Richards, Agbonlahor and co.
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Ayew does seem frustrated a lot on the pitch, seems to get a bit petulant at times like West Ham away - but I can't blame him, imagine being the only decent player in that team? it'd piss anyone off.
lets not go overboard on his quality either, he got seven league goals and few enough assists that I can remember
I like him dont get me wrong, strong, quick, decent technical ability but a bit of a blind alley merchant
seems to lack the forward instincts to ever be a prolific scorer
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Ayew does seem frustrated a lot on the pitch, seems to get a bit petulant at times like West Ham away - but I can't blame him, imagine being the only decent player in that team? it'd piss anyone off.
lets not go overboard on his quality either, he got seven league goals and few enough assists that I can remember
I like him dont get me wrong, strong, quick, decent technical ability but a bit of a blind alley merchant
seems to lack the forward instincts to ever be a prolific scorer
I think he was signed as an upgrade on Weimann, which he was.
Playing that sort of inside forward role getting 10-12 per season in a decent side would be a good return.
7 and a couple of assists in our car crash season was a bloody miracle.
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Ayew does seem frustrated a lot on the pitch, seems to get a bit petulant at times like West Ham away - but I can't blame him, imagine being the only decent player in that team? it'd piss anyone off.
lets not go overboard on his quality either
Saying he's decent is not going overboard...
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Ayew does seem frustrated a lot on the pitch, seems to get a bit petulant at times like West Ham away - but I can't blame him, imagine being the only decent player in that team? it'd piss anyone off.
lets not go overboard on his quality either
Saying he's decent is not going overboard...
No it's not he was our best player week in week out and he also actually tried which was an upgrade on most of the rest of em
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Absolutely. Ayew stood out like a sore thumb in our side as he showed occasional glimpses of quality and actually looked arsed.
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I would be disappointed if Amavi went, but can understand why. Grealish can be a major force, Ayew has talent but his attitude stinks at times and not sure the championship will tempt him much. The other senior players, they can all go forth and multiply.
Ayew? Attitude stinks at times????????? WTF ?
West Ham away? Picked up a load of stupid yellow cards too
In comparison to Amavi and particularly Jack Who, he was a model professional though
You'll have to clarify the Amavi thing.
As I have no idea what you're talking about
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I think he's going to say that the player who at the time of his injury had made more tackles than anybody in Europe was bottling them or some shite like that.
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I would be disappointed if Amavi went, but can understand why. Grealish can be a major force, Ayew has talent but his attitude stinks at times and not sure the championship will tempt him much. The other senior players, they can all go forth and multiply.
Ayew? Attitude stinks at times????????? WTF ?
West Ham away? Picked up a load of stupid yellow cards too
In comparison to Amavi and particularly Jack Who, he was a model professional though
You'll have to clarify the Amavi thing.
As I have no idea what you're talking about
I think I can explain.
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I think he's going to say that the player who at the time of his injury had made more tackles than anybody in Europe was bottling them or some shite like that.
he was bottling them, costing us crucial points with his gutless antics and deservedly getting dropped for someone as shite as Richardson for a finish
though it appears some of you lot are already very much in the 'the longer they dont play the better they get' camp
come July time the revisionism may extend to the likes of Lescott, Richards and Agbonlahor
the only stat that truly matters when referring to our existing squad is last season's point tally
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Do you have examples? The only tackle that stands out was the Bournemouth player he crippled on the opening day.
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With the European leagues and Champions league being wrapped up and new mangers taking up their positions in the major European leagues we can start raking in the big money from the likes of Bayern, Juventus, Real and Barcelona for Bacuna and Okore.
Or more likely do a buy in bulk deal with Albion for them and Clark.
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I think he's going to say that the player who at the time of his injury had made more tackles than anybody in Europe was bottling them or some shite like that.
he was bottling them, costing us crucial points with his gutless antics and deservedly getting dropped for someone as shite as Richardson for a finish
though it appears some of you lot are already very much in the 'the longer they dont play the better they get' camp
come July time the revisionism may extend to the likes of Lescott, Richards and Agbonlahor
the only stat that truly matters when referring to our existing squad is last season's point tally
I'd be incredibly wary of drawing any conclusions or making any arguments based on any team selections made by Nice but Tim after mid September, when it became obvious he hadn't got a clue what he was doing and was picking his team selections based on McNeil's Special Theorem of Irrelativity.
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Do you have examples? The only tackle that stands out was the Bournemouth player he crippled on the opening day.
Palace for one
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Where Guzan foolishly bowls the ball out to him in the dying embers, in a daft position, where he mistakenly tries to beat a man instead of lumping it? Erm, ok.
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What we have to remember is these players are from overseas (the better ones we may want to keep), they signed for what they believed was a premier league club, within months of being here they found themselves in a shit storm that they have probably never encountered anything like it before, week after week of so called senior pros throwing their toys out of the pram,working under 4 managers in one season, we call the club a basket case, what must their views be, they have no loyalty to Villa and if they have clauses in their contracts, they will be gone.
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Needed saying Kuwait.
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Alot on here need to wake up and smell the coffee Brian, we will not get a choice on who stays and who goes for alot of the new players, I wonder if Veretout chose us over Leicester as we gave him a get out clause if we were relegated and they would not, I would say that is also the case in most of last summers signings, we have been shite for 5 years on and off the pitch, just as much off the pitch and I am sure that master of all things football, Fox, would have worked his business magic on the incoming contracts, this is the club that gave that prolific goal scorer Gabby a new contract, Bacuna a new contract, Lambert a four year extension, yes they were probably right to put these clauses in, but whoever our manager is they had better be a magician to get some of the better than just average dross to stay.
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I would happily see a complete fresh start. There are a few I would be disappointed to see leave, Grealish, Gil, Amavi, but as a couple of people have already said most of these players have no loyalty to Villa, that's a symptom of modern football as much as anything else, and the club have been run so appallingly that I wouldn't blame them for wanting a move. Add to that the very long list of scrotebags I never want to see in our colours again and the result is we have to start again.
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How many of this team would get into the Stoke City starting line up? ,I know we were relegated to the old third division, but have ever been cut adrift the way this team has.