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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Bottom Right 89 on April 27, 2016, 08:54:43 PM
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Appears the Geordies are so desperate to rub our noses in it they're snapping up Holte End tickets from resale sites. I know many of us would rather eat our own limbs than frequent Villa Park at the moment but we can't let these bastards takeover our ground. >:(
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I'm rather dubious.
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Evidence?
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How quaint. Another set of Thousands in the Holte End away fans. Perhaps they can sit with the Small Heath fans that have been there since we beat them in the League Cup.
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How quaint. Another set of Thousands in the Holte End away fans. Perhaps they can sit with the Small Heath fans that have been there since we beat them in the League Cup.
and Cov fans, they took the place over that time remember
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I'm torn on if I want them to stay up or not. If they come down they will share the burden of the bulk of the TV games, if they stay up we might have a better chance of getting the players we'd otherwise compete for. But on the whole, I couldn't give a monkeys about Newcastle United and find this new found rivalry more than a bit contrived.
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How quaint. Another set of Thousands in the Holte End away fans. Perhaps they can sit with the Small Heath fans that have been there since we beat them in the League Cup.
and Cov fans, they took the place over that time remember
There were quite a few Cov fans on the Holte. Until the pubs turned out.
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The thing I don't get about this whole Newcastle hating us because of that one game thing is this: do they really think that if they'd been playing a different team that the reaction would have been different? Did they swallow that guff in the 90s of being 'everyone's second-favourite team'?
Big club goes down, other supporters laugh. That's how it works. I haven't had a single thought, or seen a single post on here, that's resentful of other fans for taking the piss out of us. It's how the game works.
The whole thing's weird.
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I'm torn on if I want them to stay up or not. If they come down they will share the burden of the bulk of the TV games, if they stay up we might have a better chance of getting the players we'd otherwise compete for. But on the whole, I couldn't give a monkeys about Newcastle United and find this new found rivalry more than a bit contrived.
I want them to stay up. We don't need them hindering any promotion push.
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All I know is this, there are some proper rotters in this world!
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All I know is this, there are some proper rotters in this world!
Yeah whoever did any of those banners is a right bounder!
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Appears the Geordies are so desperate to rub our noses in it they're snapping up Holte End tickets from resale sites. I know many of us would rather eat our own limbs than frequent Villa Park at the moment but we can't let these bastards takeover our ground. >:(
Not going to the match as I have just had a letter saying I have an operation at Good Hope Hospital on that particular Sunday. I shall be receiving plastic surgery on my conk and having a prosthetic leg fitted as part of Jeremy Hunts new world class weekend NHS.
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I think Newcastle really want to celebrate relegation with us. I think we will beat them at Villa Park for one more win before leaving Premier league, and if they are very lucky they can also celebrate with Sunderland as well.
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I think you've been drinking lol we couldn't beat an Egg
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and don't forget it is Newcastle which is North East answer to Aston Villa.
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I'm still traumatised by the times Blues and Coventry had thousands in the Holte End.
Anybody thinking we will beat them needs to stop drinking and go to bed.
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Just trying to remember who scored the only goal of that game at Villa Park that sent them down. Oh of course - it was an own goal! All their own fault then.
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Just trying to remember who scored the only goal of that game at Villa Park that sent them down. Oh of course - it was an own goal! All their own fault then.
Damian Duff deflected a weak Gareth Barry shot.
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Newcastle asked us for more tickets but the club and WMP said no. Their fans are fuming ;D
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They'll be down when we play them.
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I want them down.
Yeah yeah I know they'd probably come straight back up but there's still two other promotion places in play. And we're currently a shambles atm with next to no chance of getting promoted so we need to sort ourselves out before declaring which other clubs should come down with us.
Surely given Norwich came straight back up last time they'd be as difficult as Newcastle coming down?
Anyway them getting relegated at VP again would be hilarious particularly how they hated us celebrating their demise last time.
In any case I think it would be a much better crowd than the last few weeks if only for the novelty that it could well be our last top flight home game for quite a few years. And also the last chance (hopefully) to shout abuse at likes of Lescott, Bacuna and Richards.
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I have a couple of friends who support Newcastle. I spoke to one of them a couple of weeks ago and he said at first a group of them were keen to go to Villa Park for their revenge but upon the realisation that there's a good chance they'll be relegated as well they couldn't think of anything worse!!
I suppose they've probably got their hopes up of surviving and are all a bit giddy now, following their recent results, with the way they're playing. I can see it turning pretty nasty on the day (I hope not). I remember some of their fans getting in the Holte once before down the bottom and it was full of kids. Many moons ago in the 90's.
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How quaint. Another set of Thousands in the Holte End away fans. Perhaps they can sit with the Small Heath fans that have been there since we beat them in the League Cup.
and Cov fans, they took the place over that time remember
Yep, remember it well. Didn't even last until kick off and would have given Usain Bolt a run for his money the speed they got out of there.
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How quaint. Another set of Thousands in the Holte End away fans. Perhaps they can sit with the Small Heath fans that have been there since we beat them in the League Cup.
and Cov fans, they took the place over that time remember
Yep, remember it well. Didn't even last until kick off and would have given Usain Bolt a run for his money the speed they got out of there.
I remember being caught in that, the stewards tried to surround them for their protection then all hell broke loose as one of the maggots unveiled a Cov flag - they proper shit themselves as the Holte End converged breaking the line of stewards then they ran like whippets on to the pitch and down the other end, bless :)
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The bottom right of the Holte at that time was the worst place they could have put them, we walked up from the Aston Tavern into the Holte, saw them and everyone just fired into them. A shame for the ones who had just taken Don Howes (?) advice and go in the home end, but little sympathy for the grinning train spotters who thought they were great by singing their song in our end.
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I'm torn on if I want them to stay up or not. If they come down they will share the burden of the bulk of the TV games, if they stay up we might have a better chance of getting the players we'd otherwise compete for. But on the whole, I couldn't give a monkeys about Newcastle United and find this new found rivalry more than a bit contrived.
Agree with this fake rivalry stuff, who cares?
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The bottom right of the Holte at that time was the worst place they could have put them, we walked up from the Aston Tavern into the Holte, saw them and everyone just fired into them. A shame for the ones who had just taken Don Howes (?) advice and go in the home end, but little sympathy for the grinning train spotters who thought they were great by singing their song in our end.
I remember I was sitting in the Witton Lane Stand with my Dad and my brother that game and before kick off, they booed our youth or maybe reserve team as they did a lap of honour with a trophy they had won. I remember my Dad saying "they won't last long in there" and they didn't. I remember everyone waving and laughing at them as they scarpered off. There was a similar incident in that part of the Holte with some Newcastle fans a few years later, but that was a bit more serious and one of their fans ended getting seriously hurt if I recall correctly.
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Our spot was bottom right, can't mind any Newcastle anywhere any year. We were told to expect Blues in the cup game in 93, this consisted of one bloke who climbed over the fence when he realised he was on his own.
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Another bit of responsible journalism.
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-fans-desperate-hold-tickets-11253397#rlabs=2%20rt$sitewide%20p$5
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Our spot was bottom right, can't mind any Newcastle anywhere any year. We were told to expect Blues in the cup game in 93, this consisted of one bloke who climbed over the fence when he realised he was on his own.
It was early on in the season they first came up into the Premier League (93/94).
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As for the game they will win obviously. Black is openly sending us out to lose at this point. Good luck to them I suppose. They spent in January and hired a good manager, if they stay up, fair enough.
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As for the game they will win obviously. Black is openly sending us out to lose at this point. Good luck to them I suppose. They spent in January and hired a good manager, if they stay up, fair enough.
Forget that. I really hope we beat them or at least draw with them and bring them down with us. It's the only grain of comfort we have left to look forward to this season. They could be in big financial trouble if they go down.
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Another bit of responsible journalism.
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-fans-desperate-hold-tickets-11253397#rlabs=2%20rt$sitewide%20p$5
The stuff about getting tickets in the home end is obviously shite. They'll have a handful of fans scattered around the home ends, as most clubs do. They'll be friends or colleagues of Villa fans and they'll have the common sense not to draw attention to themselves.
In terms of their allocation, I can't see any reason why we wouldn't give them more tickets though. We'd be going mad if it was the other way round. At a time of redundancy and porridge crowds I see no reason to prevent four or five thousand away fans attending in a match which doesn't count for anything as far as we are concerned.
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Wasn't the Coventry game the same one when big Cyrille scored after about 12 seconds? Oh how I laughed.
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As for the game they will win obviously. Black is openly sending us out to lose at this point. Good luck to them I suppose. They spent in January and hired a good manager, if they stay up, fair enough.
Forget that. I really hope we beat them or at least draw with them and bring them down with us. It's the only grain of comfort we have left to look forward to this season. They could be in big financial trouble if they go down.
Oh I will think its hilarious if we drag them down (we wont as we have E.Black and our current players to guarantee that).
But in general I don't give a rats ass about Newcastle. I find some of their fans bizarre obsession with us pretty funny but as a rule they don't even make a blip on my radar. Certainly I dont regard them as "rivals" , I regard them as some club from the North East with a pretty funny youtuber who is a fan, thats kind of it.
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In terms of their allocation, I can't see any reason why we wouldn't give them more tickets though. We'd be going mad if it was the other way round. At a time of redundancy and porridge crowds I see no reason to prevent four or five thousand away fans attending in a match which doesn't count for anything as far as we are concerned.
If we have given them the usual away allocation then surely upping it this close to the game will mean a lot of hassle moving home supporters about to accomodate them.
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Wasn't the Coventry game the same one when big Cyrille scored after about 12 seconds? Oh how I laughed.
I think it was. I was in the left side and I remember them running. Didn't know what had happened until now
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This would explain why seatwave prices are rather high.
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I can't stand all this 'Toon Army' guff, the media's rewriting of history about their massive loyal support. One of my first away games was at St James in a crowd of about 14k and when Mirandhina scored that scuffed penalty at our place a few years later it was celebrated by around 400 in the away end. Recent years have seen them pull in capacity crowds but I'd hold up clubs like Norwich and Southampton for special attention not Newcastle, they fill their grounds without the media ejaculating about their amazing support. NUFC are a kind of Ollbeeyun-lite, their fans think their club is all that when the truth lies on another planet.
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In terms of their allocation, I can't see any reason why we wouldn't give them more tickets though. We'd be going mad if it was the other way round. At a time of redundancy and porridge crowds I see no reason to prevent four or five thousand away fans attending in a match which doesn't count for anything as far as we are concerned.
If we have given them the usual away allocation then surely upping it this close to the game will mean a lot of hassle moving home supporters about to accomodate them.
That's what I thought. Anyway surely we will have a mega rich new owner and a fantastic manager in place next week so thousands will be flocking to B6, well you can dream can't you?
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I can't stand all this 'Toon Army' guff, the media's rewriting of history about their massive loyal support. One of my first away games was at St James in a crowd of about 14k and when Mirandhina scored that scuffed penalty at our place a few years later it was celebrated by around 400 in the away end. Recent years have seen them pull in capacity crowds but I'd hold up clubs like Norwich and Southampton for special attention not Newcastle, they fill their grounds without the media ejaculating about their amazing support. NUFC are a kind of Ollbeeyun-lite, their fans think their club is all that when the truth lies on another planet.
Excellent
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If they do come in the Holte I reckon
A/ they won't be there long and
B/ it will be more entertaining that the match
Didn't they have a "firm" who called themselves The Gremlins? Says it all really. I know we are accused of being too serious and having no sense of humour by some but this lot take the biscuit...
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Didn't they have a "firm" who called themselves The Gremlins?
Is that because none of them can go near water the 'jubby jordies'
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I can't stand all this 'Toon Army' guff, the media's rewriting of history about their massive loyal support. One of my first away games was at St James in a crowd of about 14k and when Mirandhina scored that scuffed penalty at our place a few years later it was celebrated by around 400 in the away end. Recent years have seen them pull in capacity crowds but I'd hold up clubs like Norwich and Southampton for special attention not Newcastle, they fill their grounds without the media ejaculating about their amazing support. NUFC are a kind of Ollbeeyun-lite, their fans think their club is all that when the truth lies on another planet.
have to disagree with you there russon
I have no problem with Newcastle or their fans outside of that they are another club I want to beat on the day
all clubs have gone through lower times of support in the past
but the fact is they have been rubbish over a very long period of time, even when they looked like they might win something for the first time in decades they managed to mess it up, yet they still attract very big crowds,
there might well be a number of reasons for that and we have heard them all, but they still get a regular 50k at home to watch losing football on a long term basis
glory hunters they are not
if Man Utd had the same record as Newcastle over the last 40 years they would not be pullinh in 50k every week
I was at VP when they went down last time,
and yes I laughed because thats what you do in football and I enjoyed it on the day
but I actually have a great deal of respect for their fan base, they have had less than we have to cheer on over the last few years yet still they attend regardless
I reserve all my bile for the gloryhunting teams Man Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea
I live 40 miles north of London, there are gloryhunters all over town, hundreds of them, they do my head in
I haven't met more than a handful of Newcastle fans and when I do they generally turn out to be ex pat geordies
I realise my views are my own and are not shared by many others on the site, but that's the way I roll
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Wasn't the Coventry game the same one when big Cyrille scored after about 12 seconds? Oh how I laughed.
I think it was. I was in the left side and I remember them running. Didn't know what had happened until now
I vaguely remember mutterings of Coventry fans in the holte (whilst standing in the holte myself) followed by seeing a collection of buffoons and scrotes running back towards their own end on the pitch and sidelines, I'm thinking about 92 ish. And yes I also seem to recall the game kicking off and us scoring almost straight away.
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Meh.
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Wasn't the Coventry game the same one when big Cyrille scored after about 12 seconds? Oh how I laughed.
I think it was. I was in the left side and I remember them running. Didn't know what had happened until now
I vaguely remember mutterings of Coventry fans in the holte (whilst standing in the holte myself) followed by seeing a collection of buffoons and scrotes running back towards their own end on the pitch and sidelines, I'm thinking about 92 ish. And yes I also seem to recall the game kicking off and us scoring almost straight away.
you mean this one ?
UTV
The Doc
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Wasn't the Coventry game the same one when big Cyrille scored after about 12 seconds? Oh how I laughed.
I think it was. I was in the left side and I remember them running. Didn't know what had happened until now
I vaguely remember mutterings of Coventry fans in the holte (whilst standing in the holte myself) followed by seeing a collection of buffoons and scrotes running back towards their own end on the pitch and sidelines, I'm thinking about 92 ish. And yes I also seem to recall the game kicking off and us scoring almost straight away.
Prior to the game the Coventry manager, I think it was Don Howe but it could have been Gould, was interviewed in their local paper. It was a must win game for them in a relegation fight and as they had sold their allocation he encouraged their supporters to get tickets in home areas to support the team. The silly sausage.
There was about 50 of them, at least the visible ones, in the very bottom right of the Holte until about five to three.
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I am sure I remember that one of the group of fans " ejected " from the Holte had a Villa top on. Strange sight of 50 cov fans walking towards the away end , one in a Villa shirt !
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I can't stand all this 'Toon Army' guff, the media's rewriting of history about their massive loyal support. One of my first away games was at St James in a crowd of about 14k and when Mirandhina scored that scuffed penalty at our place a few years later it was celebrated by around 400 in the away end. Recent years have seen them pull in capacity crowds but I'd hold up clubs like Norwich and Southampton for special attention not Newcastle, they fill their grounds without the media ejaculating about their amazing support. NUFC are a kind of Ollbeeyun-lite, their fans think their club is all that when the truth lies on another planet.
All clubs except Man U and Liverpool had appalling attendances in the 80's and we were certainly no exception. The last game home game before the European Cup final against Swansea all we could manage was 18,000 and then 22,000 for our first home game as European champions the following season.
Sadly, I'm pretty sure Newcastle would have topped that if they had been in a comparable position to us at the time.
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Have to agree with John e, Newcastle (and Sunderland) fans are some of the most loyal in the game. They generally show good humour too, which is why I find this pretend rivalry with us they've invented since they sent themselves down with an OG at Villa Park all bit ridiculous, particularly the way they've let it fester in the years since. Any club's fans would have had a laugh at it like ours did that day.
I too have been at St James' in sub-20k league crowds a few times, but their support in terms of numbers is as good as any of the top clubs when you consider the only thing they've won in most fans' lifetime is the second division.
One thing's for sure, they wouldn't be able to buy up tickets in the home ends if our own fans were there. This is one last chance to voice your disapproval at the club and let the players know what a disgrace they've been - get down there and let it all out!
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Wasn't the Coventry game the same one when big Cyrille scored after about 12 seconds? Oh how I laughed.
I think it was. I was in the left side and I remember them running. Didn't know what had happened until now
I vaguely remember mutterings of Coventry fans in the holte (whilst standing in the holte myself) followed by seeing a collection of buffoons and scrotes running back towards their own end on the pitch and sidelines, I'm thinking about 92 ish. And yes I also seem to recall the game kicking off and us scoring almost straight away.
you mean this one ?
UTV
The Doc
Yeah that's the one, oh for a team like that now (and routinely humiliating our local 'rivals'!)
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I don't buy this "most loyal fans" nonsense. Newcastle and Sunderland fans are no different to any other club's supporters. I also don't buy the "hotbed" of football description of the North East. 2 clubs, 15 miles apart? we've got 2 clubs within 3 miles of us - and Wolves and Cov are both as far from us as Newcastle from Sunderland.
I've got nothing against either of them, except when the media trot out the lazy "loyal supporters" bollocks.
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Newcastle don't matter at all, Michael Jackson told me you don't matter if you're black&white
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I don't buy this "most loyal fans" nonsense. Newcastle and Sunderland fans are no different to any other club's supporters. I also don't buy the "hotbed" of football description of the North East. 2 clubs, 15 miles apart? we've got 2 clubs within 3 miles of us - and Wolves and Cov are both as far from us as Newcastle from Sunderland.
I've got nothing against either of them, except when the media trot out the lazy "loyal supporters" bollocks.
They are both one team cities and have a massive catchment area. Sunderland must be amongst the biggest underachievers in the English game.
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Wasn't the Coventry game the same one when big Cyrille scored after about 12 seconds? Oh how I laughed.
I think it was. I was in the left side and I remember them running. Didn't know what had happened until now
I vaguely remember mutterings of Coventry fans in the holte (whilst standing in the holte myself) followed by seeing a collection of buffoons and scrotes running back towards their own end on the pitch and sidelines, I'm thinking about 92 ish. And yes I also seem to recall the game kicking off and us scoring almost straight away.
you mean this one ?
UTV
The Doc
Yeah that's the one, oh for a team like that now (and routinely humiliating our local 'rivals'!)
Whatever happened to that H&V seller? Must be a very old film.
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Am I right in remembering a game against Cov where a few of their fans sat in the centre circle after they conceded a goal and held up the game?
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It's not a contrived rivalry, we're both just victims of circumstance really. We're both big clubs, they were shit, we sent them down and massively took the piss, and rightly so. They now largely dislike us for it and saw this fixture as a chance to turn the tables on us (and rightly so). But in a bizarre (bizarre because we've been so astoundingly shit this season) twist of fate, they've again been put in the position where we can have the last laugh if we drag them down with us. And because we are so shit and have been relegated already it will be just as funny as before. I'venothing against them really. Everyone knows a few Geordies - generally a good bunch, but it just gives us something to aim for,no matter how small time it may seem. I know a few and will definitely be giving them stick if we beat them. Let's just enjoy it if it happens. We are absolute dogshite right now. If we can cause them some pain too, great. Call it whatever you like, I just don't want them beating us at VP, avoiding relegation and consequently taking the piss out of our long-suffering supporters.
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Another bit of responsible journalism.
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-fans-desperate-hold-tickets-11253397#rlabs=2%20rt$sitewide%20p$5
I'm really starting to hate Gregg Evans and how he manages to include a subtle dig at Villa in nearly all of his immature and clueless articles.
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Another bit of responsible journalism.
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-fans-desperate-hold-tickets-11253397#rlabs=2%20rt$sitewide%20p$5
I'm really starting to hate Gregg Evans and how he manages to include a subtle dig at Villa in nearly all of his immature and clueless articles.
He's the Mail's equivalent of Franksy. Both with quite punchable faces. Not that I'm condoning that type of behaviour obviously. Honest.
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Another bit of responsible journalism.
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-fans-desperate-hold-tickets-11253397#rlabs=2%20rt$sitewide%20p$5
I'm really starting to hate Gregg Evans and how he manages to include a subtle dig at Villa in nearly all of his immature and clueless articles.
I've always disliked him
Back to Newcastle they can fuck off, it's on the daily Mail now, they had their allocation they sold it. The End.
Why should anyone else move to make way for the self confessed greatest fans in the league
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I must say I'd rather Newcastle didn't stay up at our place, couldn't care less if they did it the week after. I don't want them taking the pee at Villa park.
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NUFC are a kind of Ollbeeyun-lite, their fans think their club is all that when the truth lies on another planet.
I must know the wrong sort of Newcastle fans in that case. Although, doesn't every football supporter think their own club is 'all that' or special in some way?
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Newcastle fans are a very sensitive lot. They were really upset not only with our piss take (see video) but the fact we had the two banners. Man City fans too don't seem to see the funny side of our fans singing to them 'Where were you when you were shit?'. For some reason it really upsets them. I don't know if it's just me but football has always been about taking the piss out of opposition fans when the chance arises and the day we sent Newcastle down was a masterclass. The fact they got their revenge on their return to the PL and stuffed us at their place doesn't heal their wounds. As I said, they're a sensitive lot. They really need to get over themselves.
There's a reason this video has over 111,000 views.. it's fucking hilarious, at least in my book.
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I honestly cannot remember who relegated us last time - don't care - I don't hold it against Manure this time as it was more of a mercy killing
We relegated Stoke in the 70's didn't we and took the piss - they don't care
Don't blame the Toon for wanting to pack the place out - we were all up for it against Wigan 2 seasons ago (footage readily available) except we didn't need to...
They'll beat us 3-0 anyway...
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Don't blame the Toon for wanting to pack the place out - we were all up for it against Wigan 2 seasons ago (footage readily available) except we didn't need to...
Wigan was a bit different though. We'll be giving Newcastle the usual away allocation for Villa Park but Whelan cut Villa's allocation for Wigan because he didn't want us making more noise than them. That's why all those Villa fans were sitting in the Wigan ends.
Better comparisons would be Blackburn and QPR away in 1992 when Villa fans were prominent in every section of the ground. Although we weren't shit then
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Another bit of responsible journalism.
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-fans-desperate-hold-tickets-11253397#rlabs=2%20rt$sitewide%20p$5
I'm really starting to hate Gregg Evans and how he manages to include a subtle dig at Villa in nearly all of his immature and clueless articles.
He's the Mail's equivalent of Franksy. Both with quite punchable faces. Not that I'm condoning that type of behaviour obviously. Honest.
Yeah, I too can't abide him and had thought the exact same thing regarding his face.
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I honestly cannot remember who relegated us last time - don't care
Sheffield Wednesday at home was the final-nail, although a 2-1 defeat at Arsenal the Saturday before saw to it we we'd need to go through the play-offs at best (in the days when three from the division 2 and one from division 1 took part) to have any chance of staying up.
As an aside, I've not seen the footage of male, hugely overweight, shirtless, fully-grown Villa fans sobbing over relegation yet...
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i'll address that at home against Newcastle by taking my 6 year-old and pinching him really hard at full-time.
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I have generally met very decent Newcastle fans and admire their support for a team that has never bothered trophy polishers in my lifetime, and I'm 53. I missed the 2009 game as I had moved to China about 5 days beforehand, but thought the mockery sounded OTT - probably different and more fun if you were actually in the ground though. Singing and piss taking sounds natural, but making banners seemed strange to me. Make a banner to support Villa, not one that will be used once about a team we don't care about.
We also relegated them on a midweek game around 1978, beating them 2-0, but I reckon it was in April and they had been doomed for ages. IIRC the Mail ran a story the next day that they had brought a minibus of fans and their players were so impressed they had a whip round to cover the cost.
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Didn't we also effectively send them down at their place in 1988/89? or am I going saft?
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Their local press are stoking it up which doesn't help: http://www.themag.co.uk/2016/04/revealed-actually-15000-empty-seats-aston-villa-still-refuse-sell-newcastle-fans-newcastle-united/
We are 'refusing' them tickets? Despite the fact they've had the maximum league allocation of 3,000, and no team has had more than this for a league game for as long as I can remember at VP.
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That's a bit like saying Heroes & Villains is the local press.
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i'll address that at home against Newcastle by taking my 6 year-old and pinching him really hard at full-time.
Is he fully grown and hugely over-weight?
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Come on Villa, haven't we got any spare tickets we can give the moaning bastards? maybe somewhere half a mile up in the air where they'll need binoculars to see the action and where they'll never be heard by the players.
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I have generally met very decent Newcastle fans and admire their support for a team that has never bothered trophy polishers in my lifetime, and I'm 53. I missed the 2009 game as I had moved to China about 5 days beforehand, but thought the mockery sounded OTT - probably different and more fun if you were actually in the ground though. Singing and piss taking sounds natural, but making banners seemed strange to me. Make a banner to support Villa, not one that will be used once about a team we don't care about.
As I remember it was massively exaggerated. The banner was like, meh, why even do that for them? Coventry, I'd have got it?
I've no doubt there was some piss-taking, but in truth the thing has been blown up. I'm sure I've told the story on here before now of having a Newcastle fan fuming and glowering at me on the first night of last year's summer holiday on the Costa del Sol purely for the team I supported. Seemed very bitter with me for it.
Maybe they all still remember the YouTube video taken before the game on Broad Street where Alan "personality" Shearer took his squad for a walk - not the smartest move on the blisteringly hot day on a Sunday with a bank holiday the following day. Queue all the tanked up hoards taking the piss. I'm sure someone will find it.
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How do they know we have 15,000 unsold tickets - which we haven't anyway -?
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How do they know we have 15,000 unsold tickets - which we haven't anyway -?
I checked availability last night whilst there are still pockets dotted around the upper sections, the Lower North and Holte are filling up nicely and mostly only single riders left. 15000 is way off the mark. I also had a go at buying a ticket off Seatwave to see how easy it was for aways to get in - the odd belly'oot idiot might infiltrate our ranks don't think they will be getting in en masse.
I understand its a big game for them but I think we're too soft when it comes to away teams - we give them pitchside seats and a generous 3k, how many 3k allocations do we get a season? Its not an FA Cup tie hope the ticket office tell em to fuck off and maybe consider giving us seats below cloud level next time we're up there.
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Pretty sure PL regulations are 3K or 10% of capacity to away fans, whichever amount is smaller.
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Had a row with a Newcastle fan on first day of my holiday last year while we were at the card table. He said ` I used to like your little club but don`t anymore`. At which point I said `Don`t tell me, the Ant & Dec banner.
He replied `yes`. At which point I told him we weren`t `A little club but one that had won much more than they had. He couldn`t get over the fact that we had local competition for our support & they were a club in a one horse town. I got told off by Mrs Wally `for spoiling the start of the holiday.
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You should have started offering him out from behind a metal barrier, while filming the whole none event on your mobile phone. It seems to be the Geordie way.
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I don't buy this "most loyal fans" nonsense. Newcastle and Sunderland fans are no different to any other club's supporters. I also don't buy the "hotbed" of football description of the North East. 2 clubs, 15 miles apart? we've got 2 clubs within 3 miles of us - and Wolves and Cov are both as far from us as Newcastle from Sunderland.
I've got nothing against either of them, except when the media trot out the lazy "loyal supporters" bollocks.
They are both one team cities and have a massive catchment area. Sunderland must be amongst the biggest underachievers in the English game.
Sunderland
6 first division championships
2 fa cups
1 world football chamionship (!!)
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I`m fully aware of the recent friction but i still don`t understand any of this, i genuinely do not give a care about them any more than Rotherham or the bloody Billericay Red Lion.
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I`m fully aware of the recent friction but i still don`t understand any of this, i genuinely do not give a care about them any more than Rotherham or the bloody Billericay Red Lion.
I hate the Billericay Red Lion.
Splitters.
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Newcastle fans are being very precious over this. Cast your minds back. For weeks prior to this game, football fans the length and breadth of Britain were rubbing their hands in gleeful anticipation at their impending exit. I guess they'd had enough of the Geordie Nation myth, the big-bellied braggadocio, the everybody's-second-favourites bullshit.
In the build up to the game, I even had bluenoses wishing us well against them. If I'm not mistaken, they had their own little spat with the the precious Geordies a few years prior.
It just so happened that it was us who sent them on their way, but it could have been anybody, and whoever it was, it would have been with equal joy. The thing is, Birmingham people are good at bringing inflated nonsense back down to earth with a bang. The best. Brum is where the phrase 'all kippers and curtains' originated, and no club better fits that description than Newcastle. They were sent packing with a bit of wit.
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Also, I don't think Geordies are used to having the piss ripped out of them by large numbers of people. Everybody loves Newcastle after all - great city, loveable Geordie accents, the Bigg Market, blah blah.
But pisstake and ridicule are hard wired into the Birmingham psyche. We've had to put up with the entire country taking the piss out of our city and our accent for 200 years. We've even become self-deprecating as a result of it. It's water off a duck's back to us now. But we will take an opportunity to give a bit of pisstake back, wherever necessary, and do it with style.
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That Newcastle supporters are linking all Villa fans to the ones teasing them at Villa Park that day just shows how narrow minded Football fans can be. I think part of it comes from how Newcastle fans tend to over value themselves or expect too much from a club which hasn't won a major trophey in over 50 years, and has been struggling in the middle to lower part of the table for a good decade now. And the other way reason was simply that it was just a way for the home fans to get one over on opposing fans that day, rather than because it was Newcastle.
Anyway, I don't toss Newcastle fans all into that catagory, and nor should they with Villa fans. I really don't care enough, I just want Villa to at least go out on a bit of a high at home, and to avoid that record ;)
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I`m fully aware of the recent friction but i still don`t understand any of this, i genuinely do not give a care about them any more than Rotherham or the bloody Billericay Red Lion.
I hate the Billericay Red Lion.
Splitters.
I prefer the Red Lion Billericay meself :)
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How do they know we have 15,000 unsold tickets - which we haven't anyway -?
If we get a decent crowd then mutant headed Gregg will probably claim it was boosted by thousands of Geordies in the home end.
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The time we sent them down there was supposed to be 10,000 of them headed our way. Lifelong Villa fan Stan Collymore said so.
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I don't buy this "most loyal fans" nonsense. Newcastle and Sunderland fans are no different to any other club's supporters. I also don't buy the "hotbed" of football description of the North East. 2 clubs, 15 miles apart? we've got 2 clubs within 3 miles of us - and Wolves and Cov are both as far from us as Newcastle from Sunderland.
I've got nothing against either of them, except when the media trot out the lazy "loyal supporters" bollocks.
They are both one team cities and have a massive catchment area. Sunderland must be amongst the biggest underachievers in the English game.
Sunderland
6 first division championships - 1891–92, 1892–93, 1894–95, 1901–02, 1912–13, 1935–36
2 fa cups - 1937, 1973
1 world football chamionship (!!) - 1895
Years outside the top flight - 30
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I know it goes against the grain here but can I just say Newcastle is a brilliant city. I don't know anybody who thinks the Bigg Market is brilliant though.
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Newcastle is a very nice city, the Bigg Market is full of chavs though, best avoided.
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When I lived up there I avoided the Bigg Market like the plague and spent most nights with my fellow freaks down the Quayside, now it's a completely different beast down there, impressive but I get a little nostalgic for all the great pubs that used to be down there and have now been replaced by big hotels, restaurants and a fucking cat cafe.
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I don't buy this "most loyal fans" nonsense. Newcastle and Sunderland fans are no different to any other club's supporters. I also don't buy the "hotbed" of football description of the North East. 2 clubs, 15 miles apart? we've got 2 clubs within 3 miles of us - and Wolves and Cov are both as far from us as Newcastle from Sunderland.
I've got nothing against either of them, except when the media trot out the lazy "loyal supporters" bollocks.
They are both one team cities and have a massive catchment area. Sunderland must be amongst the biggest underachievers in the English game.
Sunderland
6 first division championships
2 fa cups
1 world football chamionship (!!)
I always compare Sunderland to Wolves, even down to their ridiculous "Champions of the World" claim. Newcastle are unique though - no club has ever received media coverage so out of proportion to their actual achievements. Spurs of the north Nice place though.
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at least we made a bit of an effort when Newcastle went down with a couple of banners and some funny chants like any self respecting supporters should do when they are in the process of relegating the opposition
at Old Trafford the other day Man Utd fans didn't even try, we had to sing our own piss taking songs to ourselves, the bunch of nerdy wankers
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at least we made a bit of an effort when Newcastle went down with a couple of banners and some funny chants like any self respecting supporters should do when they are in the process of relegating the opposition
at Old Trafford the other day Man Utd fans didn't even try, we had to sing our own piss taking songs to ourselves, the bunch of nerdy wankers
They're probably a bit upset we're going, the way they celebrate at Villa Park you get the impression its one of their best days out of the year. Now they'll have to earn 6 points off some other mug club rather than just turn up without breaking sweat.
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I don't buy this "most loyal fans" nonsense. Newcastle and Sunderland fans are no different to any other club's supporters. I also don't buy the "hotbed" of football description of the North East. 2 clubs, 15 miles apart? we've got 2 clubs within 3 miles of us - and Wolves and Cov are both as far from us as Newcastle from Sunderland.
I've got nothing against either of them, except when the media trot out the lazy "loyal supporters" bollocks.
They are both one team cities and have a massive catchment area. Sunderland must be amongst the biggest underachievers in the English game.
Sunderland
6 first division championships
2 fa cups
1 world football chamionship (!!)
I always compare Sunderland to Wolves, even down to their ridiculous "Champions of the World" claim. Newcastle are unique though - no club has ever received media coverage so out of proportion to their actual achievements. Spurs of the north Nice place though.
Too cold to be ever described as "nice".
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When I lived up there I avoided the Bigg Market like the plague and spent most nights with my fellow freaks down the Quayside, now it's a completely different beast down there, impressive but I get a little nostalgic for all the great pubs that used to be down there and have now been replaced by big hotels, restaurants and a fucking cat cafe.
I spent some time at Newcastle when I was at university as my best mate was a Geordie - early 80s, when they were abysmal and would get crowds in the teens.
I liked a pub called the Cooperage by the quays. Is it still going?
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Pretty sure PL regulations are 3K or 10% of capacity to away fans, whichever amount is smaller.
at old trafford recently in a crowd of 74 thousand we had 1400 tickets
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Because we didn't take the full allocation. Which is about 3K.
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I don't buy this "most loyal fans" nonsense. Newcastle and Sunderland fans are no different to any other club's supporters. I also don't buy the "hotbed" of football description of the North East. 2 clubs, 15 miles apart? we've got 2 clubs within 3 miles of us - and Wolves and Cov are both as far from us as Newcastle from Sunderland.
I've got nothing against either of them, except when the media trot out the lazy "loyal supporters" bollocks.
They are both one team cities and have a massive catchment area. Sunderland must be amongst the biggest underachievers in the English game.
the 2 grounds are 12 miles away from each other
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Because we didn't take the full allocation. Which is about 3K.
wonder why we took such a small amount, considering the interest from our supporters due to the circumstances.
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When I lived up there I avoided the Bigg Market like the plague and spent most nights with my fellow freaks down the Quayside, now it's a completely different beast down there, impressive but I get a little nostalgic for all the great pubs that used to be down there and have now been replaced by big hotels, restaurants and a fucking cat cafe.
I spent some time at Newcastle when I was at university as my best mate was a Geordie - early 80s, when they were abysmal and would get crowds in the teens.
I liked a pub called the Cooperage by the quays. Is it still going?
I was up there early eighties too, sadly the Cooperage has gone, I noticed the Crown Pasada is still going strong and The Strawberry but the likes of the Barley Mow and Egypt Cottage and many other great pubs and venues have gone.
I loved it up there and have kept in touch with loads of mates up there, none of whom fit the description of what people on here seem to think all Newcastle supporters are.
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Because we didn't take the full allocation. Which is about 3K.
yeah i know , i was just saying
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Because we didn't take the full allocation. Which is about 3K.
wonder why we took such a small amount, considering the interest from our supporters due to the circumstances.
Think the ticket office didnt take the full allocation
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When I lived up there I avoided the Bigg Market like the plague and spent most nights with my fellow freaks down the Quayside, now it's a completely different beast down there, impressive but I get a little nostalgic for all the great pubs that used to be down there and have now been replaced by big hotels, restaurants and a fucking cat cafe.
I spent some time at Newcastle when I was at university as my best mate was a Geordie - early 80s, when they were abysmal and would get crowds in the teens.
I liked a pub called the Cooperage by the quays. Is it still going?
I was up there early eighties too, sadly the Cooperage has gone, I noticed the Crown Pasada is still going strong and The Strawberry but the likes of the Barley Mow and Egypt Cottage and many other great pubs and venues have gone.
I loved it up there and have kept in touch with loads of mates up there, none of whom fit the description of what people on here seem to think all Newcastle supporters are.
Your last sentence matches my own experience too. I have generally found Geordies to be pretty down to earth and honest about their own club. Their weak spot consistently tends to be along the lines of "we have won nothing for 50 years but still get 50,000 fans every week".
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Have to agree with John e, Newcastle (and Sunderland) fans are some of the most loyal in the game. They generally show good humour too, which is why I find this pretend rivalry with us they've invented since they sent themselves down with an OG at Villa Park all bit ridiculous, particularly the way they've let it fester in the years since. Any club's fans would have had a laugh at it like ours did that day.
I too have been at St James' in sub-20k league crowds a few times, but their support in terms of numbers is as good as any of the top clubs when you consider the only thing they've won in most fans' lifetime is the second division.
One thing's for sure, they wouldn't be able to buy up tickets in the home ends if our own fans were there. This is one last chance to voice your disapproval at the club and let the players know what a disgrace they've been - get down there and let it all out!
Sunderland fans are very loyal.
Was on a stag do in Newcastle last weekend and was travelling back seperately so decided to go to Sunderland-Arsenal as my train wasn't until 5 and the game was on general sale.
Was flicking through the programme and was amazed to read the attendances bit to find Sunderland have had only two sub 40k crowds in the league this season, Palace which was on a Tuesday night and they still got 39k and Swansea who brought 400 fans.
Their away support is very good aswell, took 2.5k to Palace on a Monday night.
That's for a team who've had 4 home wins all season (just two more than us) and have been in as many relegation battles as us last 6 years. At least Newcastle have the odd top half finish.
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There is nothing else to do in Sunderland other than watch Sunderland or bide your time until old age and death.
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I must say I'd rather Newcastle didn't stay up at our place, couldn't care less if they did it the week after. I don't want them taking the pee at Villa park.
Sunderland got 2 games to play so don't think it's mathematically possible for Newcastle to survive even if they beat us and Palace.
They could easily be relegated though especially if they don't win tomorrow and Sunderland do.
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I must say I'd rather Newcastle didn't stay up at our place, couldn't care less if they did it the week after. I don't want them taking the pee at Villa park.
Sunderland got 2 games to play so don't think it's mathematically possible for Newcastle to survive even if they beat us and Palace.
They could easily be relegated though especially if they don't win tomorrow and Sunderland do.
how long will it take newcastle and Villa to catch up with watford and bournemouth
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There is nothing else to do in Sunderland other than watch Sunderland or bide your time until old age and death.
I've just read this post out to Sunderland-supporting north easterner Mrs. Exeter and she agrees.
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There is nothing else to do in Sunderland other than watch Sunderland or bide your time until old age and death.
Oh yeah I got off at the train station and had to walk through the town centre to get to SOL. Makes Cheronbyl look appealing.
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There is nothing else to do in Sunderland other than watch Sunderland or bide your time until old age and death.
Oh yeah I got off at the train station and had to walk through the town centre to get to SOL. Makes Cheronbyl look appealing.
We have children come over from chernobyl for 2 weeks in the summer. Shall I suggest that as a day trip on the the last weekend?
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There is nothing else to do in Sunderland other than watch Sunderland or bide your time until old age and death.
Oh yeah I got off at the train station and had to walk through the town centre to get to SOL. Makes Cheronbyl look appealing.
We have children come over from chernobyl for 2 weeks in the summer. Shall I suggest that as a day trip on the the last weekend?
yeah , tell you what , there is a lovely beach at south shields up the road from sunderland
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My ex was from the north east, Hartlepool. We spent a lot of time visiting all the towns and cities up there, Sunderland... I like the people but the place was like a really big Acocks Green but colder and a bit shitter.
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My ex was from the north east, Hartlepool. We spent a lot of time visiting all the towns and cities up there, Sunderland... I like the people but the place was like a really big Acocks Green but colder and a bit shitter.
I love it up there , went camping there with the mrs 20 odd years ago beautiful countryside , one day the exhaust went on our car in the middle of sunderland and i drove into quick fit and a bloke fitted a bandage on it free of charge , it lasted another month , the area also has some of the best beaches in Britain, about 12 years ago we went again with our kids , stayed in whitley bay , it was brilliant
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My ex was from the north east, Hartlepool. We spent a lot of time visiting all the towns and cities up there, Sunderland... I like the people but the place was like a really big Acocks Green but colder and a bit shitter.
So it's a colder, bigger, slightly worse version of the best part of Brum!
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I don't buy this "most loyal fans" nonsense. Newcastle and Sunderland fans are no different to any other club's supporters. I also don't buy the "hotbed" of football description of the North East. 2 clubs, 15 miles apart? we've got 2 clubs within 3 miles of us - and Wolves and Cov are both as far from us as Newcastle from Sunderland.
I've got nothing against either of them, except when the media trot out the lazy "loyal supporters" bollocks.
They are both one team cities and have a massive catchment area. Sunderland must be amongst the biggest underachievers in the English game.
the 2 grounds are 12 miles away from each other
So probably the same distance as Villa and Wolves. There are no other clubs around those two teams for miles though. Nothing North of Newcastle in England and the nearest team west is Carlisle.
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We have the Albion 4 miles north west who average 20,000 home support. We have the Noses 4 miles due east who average 13,000 home support, but took 600,000 to Bruges. We have the Wolves 12 miles further due West who average 18,000 and Coventry 25 miles south east who average 8,000 home support. Finally 8 miles north we have Walsall who average around 4000 home support.
All in roughly the same area as Newcastle and Sunderland you have a load of clubs who average collective 60,000 every week. Taking into account that it's not the same fans everyweek then you're talking about 70-80,000 non-Villa match goers in a relatively small space. Only London is more congested and the population is many times larger.
The Midlands might seem like a one team place, but our no mark brethren to use up some oxygen.
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Was flicking through the programme and was amazed to read the attendances bit to find Sunderland have had only two sub 40k crowds in the league this season, Palace which was on a Tuesday night and they still got 39k and Swansea who brought 400 fans.
Their away support is very good aswell, took 2.5k to Palace on a Monday night.
Sunderland almost give their tickets away to keep the place full and encourage everybody to go there. Their season tickets are also one of the cheapest in the PL and they've even reduced the prices for next season.
As for their traveling support on a Monday night in London, I'd imagine most of their fans there actually down there. The ones I've met are all good lads and I hope for them Sunderland stay up.
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I don't know what I think about Sunderland, the way they handled Adam Johnson would make it difficult to feel any pity if they went down.
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To me, the only reason to want Sunderland to stay up is that they're not Newcastle.
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Next week is going to be unfun.
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To me, the only reason to want Sunderland to stay up is that they're not Newcastle.
On a pure football considerations basis, if I were a neutral, I'd be begging and praying for us, Newcastle and Sunderland to go down.
Us. Shit in more ways than you'd think possible for 1 club.
Newcastle. Not the country's second favourite team, don't believe the hype etc. etc.
Sunderland. Have us to thank for not being the worst team in the top flight over the last 4 years without getting relegated.
It's like something from the shithouse thread and now there's finally a chance to flush 3 mega turds away on one flush.
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You just know there will be loads of fat, horrible Geordies spilling onto the pitch next weekend as Townsend or that lunatic scores.
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I actually don't mind Sunderland in comparison to the other two.
Newcastle are a big club no arguments there, but has always been a horrible place to visit and I hate Sports Direct.
As for the pigeons - never liked them from John Bond onwards.
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Newcastle are winning next week and staying up. Brace yourselves for a vile day folks.
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Newcastle are winning next week and staying up. Brace yourselves for a vile day folks.
Nothing will be concluded next week as Sunderland could still easily overtake Newcastle who have Spurs last day let's not forget.
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Newcastle are winning next week and staying up. Brace yourselves for a vile day folks.
Nothing will be concluded next week as Sunderland could still easily overtake Newcastle who have Spurs last day let's not forget.
Spurs may have nothing to play for after 16:00pm tomorrow
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Newcastle are winning next week and staying up. Brace yourselves for a vile day folks.
Nothing will be concluded next week as Sunderland could still easily overtake Newcastle who have Spurs last day let's not forget.
Spurs may have nothing to play for after 16:00pm tomorrow
Us 0-2 Newcastle
Sunderland 1-1 Chelsea
Sunderland 2-1 Everton
Newcastle 2-1 Spurs
Watford 0-1 Sunderland
Sunderland 39 points
Newcastle 39 points (Newcastle relegated on GD).
There's still a long way to go and why any Geordie mocking will be a little bit premature regarding their own situation.
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Newcastle are winning next week and staying up. Brace yourselves for a vile day folks.
Nothing will be concluded next week as Sunderland could still easily overtake Newcastle who have Spurs last day let's not forget.
Sunderland will get beaten by Chelsea and Everton, no danger.
Spurs will be in their flip flops by the last game.
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Newcastle are winning next week and staying up. Brace yourselves for a vile day folks.
Nothing will be concluded next week as Sunderland could still easily overtake Newcastle who have Spurs last day let's not forget.
Sunderland will get beaten by Chelsea and Everton, no danger.
Spurs will be in their flip flops by the last game.
You seen Everton and Chelsea much this season?!
Sunderland were pretty decent v Arsenal, I think they've got at least one win in them left this season.
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As have Newcastle as we all know. >:(
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Fuck Newcastle.
If they go down, great it would be funny if they joined us.
If not, the bare bellied muppets will enjoy their day at Villa Park. Then next season We'll be promoted while they're crying in their stadium being relegated again.
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It will be tight, begs the question why Newcastle didn't sack McClaren much earlier.
All I'm saying is if people are assuming Newcastle will be beating Spurs with little to play for...what do Watford, Everton and Chelsea have to play for again?
It's still in Sunderland's hands.
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To me, the only reason to want Sunderland to stay up is that they're not Newcastle.
On a pure football considerations basis, if I were a neutral, I'd be begging and praying for us, Newcastle and Sunderland to go down.
Us. Shit in more ways than you'd think possible for 1 club.
Newcastle. Not the country's second favourite team, don't believe the hype etc. etc.
Sunderland. Have us to thank for not being the worst team in the top flight over the last 4 years without getting relegated.
It's like something from the shithouse thread and now there's finally a chance to flush 3 mega turds away on one flush.
I totally agree. If I wasn't a Villa fan I would want the two wastes of Premier League places in the last few years Villa and Sunderland to go down along with Newcastle, who despite supposedly being the biggest sleeping giant in English football and having the bestest fans in English football and being every football fan's second favourite team* have not won anything in my lifetime.
*Just because most people would rather you win the title instead of Manure doesn't mean you are loved by the entire nation.
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I wasn't much of an Andros Townsend fan. When we were linked in the summer I didn't particularly want him. When Newcastle bought him in January I thought they'd been ripped off, but to be fair he's been excellent for them but what's impressed me more than anything is his desire and workrate. I didn't have him down as a player who'd particularly give a shit, but he's worked very hard for them. He's also proving to be a match winner.
I think in retrospect we probably should have pushed harder for him and dug deeper. He could have made a difference. It may well be that Benetiz and Townsend are gonna keep Newcastle up against the odds. It's a toss up between them and the Defoe express. Norwich are gone.
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I've always thought well relatively recently thought that Newcastle would beat us and palace but not Spurs so I reckon the most they will finish on is 37. I can't help thinking that late point for Sunderland today will prove vital.
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I've always thought well relatively recently thought that Newcastle would beat us and palace but not Spurs so I reckon the most they will finish on is 37. I can't help thinking that late point for Sunderland today will prove vital.
I think a lot rests on Everton for Sunderland. Newcastle are all but guaranteed a win in their next. Sunderlands next game is Chelsea and if you take that as their game in hand, I can't see them winning it. If they don't get a point at Everton they could be down before the final game. I think Sunderland should beat Watford. Allardyce may have to be bolder. He's playing not to lose in every game but at some point he's got to play to win.
That said I'd love to beat Newcastle to pull them down with us. But we're gonna lose that one. Nailed on.
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I've always thought well relatively recently thought that Newcastle would beat us and palace but not Spurs so I reckon the most they will finish on is 37. I can't help thinking that late point for Sunderland today will prove vital.
I think a lot rests on Everton for Sunderland. Newcastle are all but guaranteed a win in their next. Sunderlands next game is Chelsea and if you take that as their game in hand, I can't see them winning it. If they don't get a point at Everton they could be down before the final game. I think Sunderland should beat Watford. Allardyce may have to be bolder. He's playing not to lose in every game but at some point he's got to play to win.
That said I'd love to beat Newcastle to pull them down with us. But we're gonna lose that one. Nailed on.
It comes to something when beating Newcastle to relegate them as well would be the highlight of the season, but along with beating a crap Blues team in the League Cup, it probably will be.
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Newcastle will stay up now, they've got confidence and an easier run in (atleast 3 points guarenteed). Sunderland battle but won't get wins.
It's how this season has gone. The more I think about it im amazed we actually beat Blose.
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They will be fine. I cant get mad at them for it. Spent in January, hired a proven manager. Pretty simple really. We could be staying up as well if the board had not surrendered.
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I wasn't much of an Andros Townsend fan. When we were linked in the summer I didn't particularly want him. When Newcastle bought him in January I thought they'd been ripped off, but to be fair he's been excellent for them but what's impressed me more than anything is his desire and workrate. I didn't have him down as a player who'd particularly give a shit, but he's worked very hard for them. He's also proving to be a match winner.
I think in retrospect we probably should have pushed harder for him and dug deeper. He could have made a difference. It may well be that Benetiz and Townsend are gonna keep Newcastle up against the odds. It's a toss up between them and the Defoe express. Norwich are gone.
I thought AT would've been a decent signing. Better than we had at the club at the time at any rate.
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They will be fine. I cant get mad at them for it. Spent in January, hired a proven manager. Pretty simple really. We could be staying up as well if the board had not surrendered.
Agreed. I think picking up points against Citeh and Liverpool saw them pretty much safe, and a guaranteed three points against us will seal the deal. Sunderland needed a win yesterday to really stay in contention but I think it's now us, Norwich and Sunderland.
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Nah they'll be playing us again next season. Spurs will biff them and Sunderland will stay up on goal difference.
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They will be fine. I cant get mad at them for it. Spent in January, hired a proven manager. Pretty simple really. We could be staying up as well if the board had not surrendered.
A decent manager & quality incumbents Ciggies? Who'd have thought that would work?! Still at least Randolph was able to hang on to a few million bucks of his diminishing billions. God forbid that he'd end up on welfare... ::)
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Picture doing the rounds of a banner they've prepared in retaliation to that non event that they can't get over, now I've got no problem with them milking our relegation and all that but it looks cringey as fuck and as if it was done by that police horse.
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They seem to think that telling us we're crap and we're going down is going to really upset us, as if it was something we hadn't realised until they pointed it out. Bless.
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They've had months to think of something and this is what they've come up with.
(http://i2.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/article11279328.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/bannernewc.jpg)
We need this as a reply
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/LXUhoVdqEIk/hqdefault.jpg)
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It'd really take the wind out of their sails if we all turned up in 'Glum in the Brum' t-shirts.
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I like it. Especially the claret & blue effect.
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Shit on the Pitch would cover both sides.
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Should've gone with:
"Never the mind the The Villa
Here's the Newcastle".
They could've had a whip round and got all the fans to chip in.
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Shit on the Pitch would cover both sides.
☑
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That poxy 'The' flag was a curse.
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Down with the Villa
You're going down with the Villa...
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Down with the the Villa,
You're going down with the the Villa...
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Down with Villa,
You're going down with the Villa...
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We don't take ourselves anywhere near seriously enough for this to work on us.
Down with the Villa
You're coming down with the Villa
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Small team in Wearside
You're just a small team in Wearside
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If this is Geordie wit, it explains Sarah Millican.
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Fuck me that's really crap. Anything is going to have to be really going some to top the piss take our own fans have come up with. And that's not.
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Her whole act is to say something unfunny about her weight and then turn to the camera and pull a face. Genius.
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If this is Geordie wit, it explains Sarah Millican.
I thought she was a smoggie? She sounds more like one of them than a Geordie.
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We should just make a banner of this thread title.
It would be perfect if we did beat them.
Yeah ok....
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South Shields apparently. She's married to a Villa fan which has boosted my opinion of her.
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Howay the lads! Join us in the cesspool.
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/08/39/c2/0839c22c742ba14a03db686bdac16e89.jpg)
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Her whole act is to say something unfunny about her weight and then turn to the camera and pull a face. Genius.
Which would go OK, but Jo Brand was doing that 25 years ago.
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Should've gone with:
"Never the mind the The Villa
Here's the Newcastle".
They could've had a whip round and got all the fans to chip in.
I see what you did there :)
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I think we respond with the obvious choice of banner.....
"Auf Wiedersehn Pet" 😉
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I think we respond with the obvious choice of banner.....
"Auf Wiedersehn Pet" 😉
That's the one - works either way.
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Her whole act is to say something unfunny about her weight and then turn to the camera and pull a face. Genius.
Colleen Nolan does that every day on Loose Women
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They seem to think that telling us we're crap and we're going down is going to really upset us, as if it was something we hadn't realised until they pointed it out. Bless.
They'd only be about three-months late to the party.
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Not only did we relegate ourselves, we were first to take the piss. No tears.
We sent ourselves down and now we're sending ourselves up.
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We took ownership of our relegation so the poor Jawdies will have a flat party on saturday with the banners. We should just have a banner saying, 'What? Another Messiah you say?'
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Be funny if they (Newcastle) can't get any banners into Villa Park!
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If Watford are as bad as they were against us then both Norwich and Sunderland will beat them , I fancy Chelsea now they have spoiled Spurs party they will go back to not giving a fuck and could be beaten.
Spurs if they don't get a result to Soton will need a result against Newcastle to stay 2nd above Arsenal so they will have something to play for.
But other than us who are utterly shite its very hard to predict and moment and Newcastle should not get ahead of themselves just yet
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I think Newcastle will win their two remaining matches, not sure Sunderland will get seven points from their three remaining games.
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I think Newcastle will win their two remaining matches, not sure Sunderland will get seven points from their three remaining games.
Haven't you got some Geordie mates Chris?
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I think Newcastle will win their two remaining matches, not sure Sunderland will get seven points from their three remaining games.
Haven't you got some Geordie mates Chris?
I might have mentioned them once but I think I got away with it.
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I think Newcastle will win their two remaining matches, not sure Sunderland will get seven points from their three remaining games.
Haven't you got some Geordie mates Chris?
I might have mentioned them once but I think I got away with it.
Must be nice being popular
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Our Banners Are Better Than Yours
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So it seems the last protest of the season is the release of 2000 balloons and 74 beach balls on the 74th minute. Just read on Twitter a lot of fans are planning on taking their own beach balls, inflatables etc and going out with a big party.
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A lilo might be alright, it's supposed to be sunny this weekend.
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So it seems the last protest of the season is the release of 2000 balloons and 74 beach balls on the 74th minute. Just read on Twitter a lot of fans are planning on taking their own beach balls, inflatables etc and going out with a big party.
A beach ball, Gestede might be able to control one of those.
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So it seems the last protest of the season is the release of 2000 balloons and 74 beach balls on the 74th minute. Just read on Twitter a lot of fans are planning on taking their own beach balls, inflatables etc and going out with a big party.
A beach ball, Gestede might be able to control one of those.
Charlton have done something similar a couple of times this season and it's pretty effective. Shame Charlton have been relegated, always a nice away game to go to. Plenty of nice pubs in Greenwich
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/football-league/charlton-beach-ball-protest-angry-fans-halt-championship-match-with-brighton-a6998291.html
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So it seems the last protest of the season is the release of 2000 balloons and 74 beach balls on the 74th minute. Just read on Twitter a lot of fans are planning on taking their own beach balls, inflatables etc and going out with a big party.
as if people wont release them before 74 minutes
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So it seems the last protest of the season is the release of 2000 balloons and 74 beach balls on the 74th minute. Just read on Twitter a lot of fans are planning on taking their own beach balls, inflatables etc and going out with a big party.
as if people wont release them before 74 minutes
74 minutes does sound a long time to go without a release..
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So it seems the last protest of the season is the release of 2000 balloons and 74 beach balls on the 74th minute. Just read on Twitter a lot of fans are planning on taking their own beach balls, inflatables etc and going out with a big party.
A beach ball, Gestede might be able to control one of those.
Charlton have done something similar a couple of times this season and it's pretty effective. Shame Charlton have been relegated, always a nice away game to go to. Plenty of nice pubs in Greenwich
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/football-league/charlton-beach-ball-protest-angry-fans-halt-championship-match-with-brighton-a6998291.html
I find going to a new ground a little bit like opening a pack of panini stickers or sifting through someone's 200 swaps and finding one of the few left that you want. The season Narrrrccchhh came up I went with a Canary mate to Charlton for the firs time. Shame they've gone as a return trip would've been ace. Also memorable for my worsening mood through the night as we were away at hull same day. My mood brightened within 12 hours, however.
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So it seems the last protest of the season is the release of 2000 balloons and 74 beach balls on the 74th minute. Just read on Twitter a lot of fans are planning on taking their own beach balls, inflatables etc and going out with a big party.
A beach ball, Gestede might be able to control one of those.
Only if someone sticks a knife in it first. Watching Rudy in action is rather like watching a great dane playing with a balloon.
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So it seems the last protest of the season is the release of 2000 balloons and 74 beach balls on the 74th minute. Just read on Twitter a lot of fans are planning on taking their own beach balls, inflatables etc and going out with a big party.
as if people wont release them before 74 minutes
74 minutes does sound a long time to go without a release..
I've never managed 74 minutes
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Leighton, late of this parish, is in the Mail talking about his banners from 2009.
I shall resist linking to it.
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So it seems the last protest of the season is the release of 2000 balloons and 74 beach balls on the 74th minute. Just read on Twitter a lot of fans are planning on taking their own beach balls, inflatables etc and going out with a big party.
A beach ball, Gestede might be able to control one of those.
i wouldnt bank on it he's still struggling with the skip full of cement
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balloons and beach balls ? I think throwing dildos on the pitch would be more representative of the shafting we've received from the club and the players...imagine the scene when the stewards are trying to clear up the pitch and one of them mistakes Bacuna for a dildo...hilarious.
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balloons and beach balls ? I think throwing dildos on the pitch would be more representative of the shafting we've received from the club and the players...imagine the scene when the stewards are trying to clear up the pitch and one of them mistakes Bacuna for a dildo...hilarious.
Nobody would notice extra dildos on the pitch...
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Why whenever you go on twitter do you get a Villa tweet which is followed about 5 comments down by some snarling Geordie and if its not that there are Polls everyday asking Who is the biggest club Villa or Newcastle, the one on there today has reached over 4k votes! Villa baiting has become more popular than pokemon go up there. They've become more bitterly obsessed than the Albion these days.
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I'm quite new to Twitter so don't really get it yet, but its something I've noticed too.
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Incredible to think the source of their vitriol is a couple of silly banners. Pathetic really.
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Incredible to think the source of their vitriol is a couple of silly banners. Pathetic really.
We laughed at them. We showed up their Everyone's Second Favourite Club claim and they still can't grasp it wasn't just us - everyone would have laughed at them.
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I must be following the right people as I never see any of the above.
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I must be following the right people as I never see any of the above.
Me too. Sofia Vergara never mentions them
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Incredible to think the source of their vitriol is a couple of silly banners. Pathetic really.
We laughed at them. We showed up their Everyone's Second Favourite Club claim and they still can't grasp it wasn't just us - everyone would have laughed at them.
I'm surprised they haven't found another set of fans to vent their outrage on in an attempt to deflect from the fact that they have been relegated again.
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Incredible to think the source of their vitriol is a couple of silly banners. Pathetic really.
We laughed at them. We showed up their Everyone's Second Favourite Club claim and they still can't grasp it wasn't just us - everyone would have laughed at them.
I'm surprised they haven't found another set of fans to vent their outrage on in an attempt to deflect from the fact that they have been relegated again.
Unfortunately their failure to beat our worst team in living memory was the final nail in their coffin again.
Imagine getting relegated because you were too shit to beat us last season, on top of Alan Shearer's finest hour in football.
They'll still be bitching about us in 2116 intergalactic cup qualifiers.
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It's brilliant when a big club gets relegated. When it's a club whose supporters take themselves so seriously it's also very funny. We had the privilege of sending them down all those years ago, but wherever they'd played that game they'd have been laughed at. They seem to think they should have been treated with some reverence - did they really expect us to weep for their plight?
The fact that their fans came here last season in the hope of paying us back, and then saw our dreadful team effectively send them down for a second time...well, what's not funny about that? That's hilarious. I can understand them being upset, even at our lowest ebb we've shown them up, but rather than posting bitter messages on Twitter their fans ought to spend a bit of time getting over themselves.
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It's brilliant when a big club gets relegated.
I didn't get that feeling personally, last season, when we were relegated.
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Dunno if this has been posted elsewhere but as hinted at above, it seems that they really are "The Bitters" Mk II:
http://www.themag.co.uk/2016/07/aston-villa-owner-admits-dream-many-fans-newcastle-tony-xia-newcastle-united/ (http://www.themag.co.uk/2016/07/aston-villa-owner-admits-dream-many-fans-newcastle-tony-xia-newcastle-united/)
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That's pathetic. There's no other word for it.
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On both sides
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On both sides
I agree, our fans arguing with them in the comments section really don't do us any favours!
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Dunno if this has been posted elsewhere but as hinted at above, it seems that they really are "The Bitters" Mk II:
http://www.themag.co.uk/2016/07/aston-villa-owner-admits-dream-many-fans-newcastle-tony-xia-newcastle-united/ (http://www.themag.co.uk/2016/07/aston-villa-owner-admits-dream-many-fans-newcastle-tony-xia-newcastle-united/)
Hello, Carol? It’s Alan. How are you? Me? I’m having a fantastic time, yeah. I’m having the best time since… sliced bread.
How’s Mr. Planet of the Apes man? Oh. Is he still driving that Renault Megane? Yeah? Can I just read you something from Top Gear magazine? No, it’s alright, I’ve got it here, I’ve got it here.
“With a mere ninety break-horse-power available, progress is too leisurely to be called fast, but on the motorway in fifth gear the Megane’s slow pace really becomes a pain. Uphill runs become power-sappingly mundane, while overtaking National Express coaches can become a long, drawn-out affair.” Not my words, Carol. The words of Top Gear magazine. Hello?
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I genuinely couldn't give a flying fuck about what Newcastle United fans think about the Villa. A one club city that has underachieved on a grand scale. The second city is enjoying a bit of a resurgence despite years of austerity. I think the investment in the club has come at the right time for us an we could see exciting times ahead in B6.
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It must be hard for supporters of a team who haven't won anything since the sixties, whose fanbase bring to mind fat, obese, semi-naked drunken morons, (and as for the men...), run by a spiv owner every bit as appaling as Lerner ever was. Delusion can be wonderful for the ignorant, but it's about time the Toon woke up...you're shit, it's all of your own doing, and you've no-one to blame but yourselves. We've known for five years that our team don't deserve our support, but we go in our thousands, home and away, with a quiet dignity you'll never know. You're more to be pitied.
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It must be hard for supporters of a team who haven't won anything since the sixties, whose fanbase bring to mind fat, obese, semi-naked drunken morons, (and as for the men...), run by a spiv owner every bit as appaling as Lerner ever was. Delusion can be wonderful for the ignorant, but it's about time the Toon woke up...you're shit, it's all of your own doing, and you've no-one to blame but yourselves. We've known for five years that our team don't deserve our support, but we go in our thousands, home and away, with a quiet dignity you'll never know. You're more to be pitied.
I'll have to take you up on the comparison of Lerner and Ashley.
Lerner in the end was a disaster of an owner, but as a human being it appears that he's on a different planet to Ashley.
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It must be hard for supporters of a team who haven't won anything since the sixties, whose fanbase bring to mind fat, obese, semi-naked drunken morons, (and as for the men...), run by a spiv owner every bit as appaling as Lerner ever was. Delusion can be wonderful for the ignorant, but it's about time the Toon woke up...you're shit, it's all of your own doing, and you've no-one to blame but yourselves. We've known for five years that our team don't deserve our support, but we go in our thousands, home and away, with a quiet dignity you'll never know. You're more to be pitied.
I'll have to take you up on the comparison of Lerner and Ashley.
Lerner in the end was a disaster of an owner, but as a human being it appears that he's on a different planet to Ashley.
Granted.
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http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/revealed-championship-teams-newcastle-united-11666921
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http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/revealed-championship-teams-newcastle-united-11666921
I was just about to post that. Imagine being one of them trying to explain their hatred for a club 200 miles way . "But...but...but...they LAUGHED at us!!!111!!!"
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I'm finding this more and more bizarre by the day. I genuinely have no feelings towards them whatsoever.
The old days of being annoyed at their apparent sense of right of achievement have long gone because they seem to have realised they are as bad as us in recent times.
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Fucking hell man, get over yourselves.
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At the end of both recent articles posted above, I think a lot of comments reflect quite well on them. Credit where it's due.