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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: brentastonb6 on April 11, 2016, 09:27:32 PM
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I think the fans have been great home and away for the last five years when you look at the facts, we've gained a lot of what feels like positive press as a set of supporters for our loyalty and various well organised protests . Whilst it could be seen as 'bullying in the workplace' is it our duty for the remaining games to drive out Mr Vertigo, New Car , Captain not my fault ,
Champions chump, etc by them never wanting to appear in front of us ever again ( Gabby seems to have started already the fat useless coward ) I intend to give it to them at every opportunity as I feel we can never move on with them in our dressing room.
I hope the club make them do the lap of appreciation at the end of the season with the caveat that they have to walk the track , can't see that happening though unfortunately.
I see it as doing my bit to help reduce the wage bill how about you ?
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I'll be taking very little notice. They're a piss poor team with a few bad eggs, it would seem. The pseudonyms you mention, who will all of be off at the end of the season, know we think they're ****** anyway, and won't give two hoots if you scream your lungs out. Save your breath.
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Im not interested in name calling (not a dig at your post per se) and mean as much as shouting w***ers at them as any of the personal stuff,but I think it undermines the point of wanting them gone. I think the most fitting chant of late has been "You're not fit to wear the shirt" and if anything, this should be what rings round VP after the final whistle on the last day.
The truth of it is, that through a combination of a lack of talent, lack of effort, poor off field behaviour, fragile mentality, old age, being new to the league etc this squad simply is not fit enough to be running out onto that pitch in the famous claret and blue. I would hope, that irrespective of what the fans do, the new board and management team see that as clear as daylight and deal with the situation, irrespecive of the cost. Im hoping the growth of the american and chinese leagues will be a blessing in disguise for us
There can be no room for sentiment this summer
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I agree with the OP and was going to post something similar last weekend.
I'm not advocating physical assaults or anything like that, or even going up to players you see out and about and screaming obscenities in their faces.
Just make their lives as uncomfortable for someone on 30-40 grand a week as it is possible to do within the law. If you think about it, every time the likes of Gabby or Richards goes into town shopping, or to a restaurant, or the movies, they must encounter dozens of Villa fans.
Whereas previously they'd maybe have people wanting selfies, or autographs, or just a 2 minute yarn with one of their heroes; I think we as fans can do our bit in letting them know exactly what we think.
Let them know they're a disgrace, not fit to wear the shirt, stealing a living from us and poor imitations of bygone true legends of the club. Make their lives uncomfortable to the point where they have to weigh up whether it's best for them to keep drawing their fat, unearned salaries, or take a new deal, any deal to get away.
These clowns have managed to get 2 managers the sack this season and 90% of the blame
Lies with them. It's our duty as fans to try and help the club get rid. On that line, the club should publish a list of players for sale in the summer and let the fans help them
Through the door.
Think of it as a logical extension of the protests already undertaken.
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I know the fans feel like venting their anger at certain players and for what we have endured over the last few years, but I would say it is totally down to the new board to deal with this situation.
There is a lot of money involved, selling fees and paying up contracts. The board must try to get as much as they can out of the transactions to enable us to be able to compete for their better replacements. Who knows that maybe a new manager with a better style or man management over the other players may get a better more successfull response. Good luck to the board and new manager
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More to the point is it our fault? Did anyone watch MOTD saturday? Monkey man Keown saying it's not easy for the players to be playing in toxic atmosphere's or something like that, something similar was said on Soccer Saturday by Thompson.
So is it us or what?
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More to the point is it our fault? Did anyone watch MOTD saturday? Monkey man Keown saying it's not easy for the players to be playing in toxic atmosphere's or something like that, something similar was said on Soccer Saturday by Thompson.
So is it us or what?
There's always been some inverse snobbery aimed at us from our lesser neighbours. Small Heath are the One True Brummies unlike da villa what's from Staffordshire while that lot in stripes am the Loyalest and Bestest Fans Ever unlike da villa what am fikkul. Sy something often enough and it starts to stick, especially after Fuckoff O'Leary joined in.
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More to the point is it our fault? Did anyone watch MOTD saturday? Monkey man Keown saying it's not easy for the players to be playing in toxic atmosphere's or something like that, something similar was said on Soccer Saturday by Thompson.
So is it us or what?
There's always been some inverse snobbery aimed at us from our lesser neighbours. Small Heath are the One True Brummies unlike da villa what's from Staffordshire while that lot in stripes am the Loyalest and Bestest Fans Ever unlike da villa what am fikkul. Sy something often enough and it starts to stick, especially after Fuckoff O'Leary joined in.
I think that also, but are we unhelpful to the situation? Didn't Given comment on it as well? Myself I think we've been more than patient
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More to the point is it our fault? Did anyone watch MOTD saturday? Monkey man Keown saying it's not easy for the players to be playing in toxic atmosphere's or something like that, something similar was said on Soccer Saturday by Thompson.
So is it us or what?
The atmosphere wasn't toxic when we won 1 of the opening 20 games was it?
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I can't remember to be honest, I ain't been to Villa once this season
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More to the point is it our fault? Did anyone watch MOTD saturday? Monkey man Keown saying it's not easy for the players to be playing in toxic atmosphere's or something like that, something similar was said on Soccer Saturday by Thompson.
So is it us or what?
To paraphrase someone famous (and no doubt mix a few metaphors)
"Blaming the fans for an athlete's performance is the last refuge of a scoundrel"
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I can't remember to be honest, I ain't been to Villa once this season
Well put it this way, the atmosphere against West Ham in December was pretty decent, on the back of 1 win in 7 months.
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More to the point is it our fault? Did anyone watch MOTD saturday? Monkey man Keown saying it's not easy for the players to be playing in toxic atmosphere's or something like that, something similar was said on Soccer Saturday by Thompson.
So is it us or what?
Players, pundits, managers etc, 'football people' all have a very loose grip on reality. They all seem to be very highly paid passengers on the football carousel, anyone accepting any blame for poor performance risks falling off the carousel and having to get a proper job. Therefore they are always looking for targets to pin blame on, its normally the fans.
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Just make their lives as uncomfortable for someone on 30-40 grand a week as it is possible to do within the law. If you think about it, every time the likes of Gabby or Richards goes into town shopping, or to a restaurant, or the movies, they must encounter dozens of Villa fans.
Whereas previously they'd maybe have people wanting selfies, or autographs, or just a 2 minute yarn with one of their heroes; I think we as fans can do our bit in letting them know exactly what we think.
Let them know they're a disgrace, not fit to wear the shirt, stealing a living from us and poor imitations of bygone true legends of the club. Make their lives uncomfortable to the point where they have to weigh up whether it's best for them to keep drawing their fat, unearned salaries, or take a new deal, any deal to get away.
Really?! You're advocating approaching players away from the club simply to give them verbal abuse? It's really not that important.
What if their kids are there? How scary would it be for a young child to see their dad get abuse from a random stranger in the street?
If you really want to give them some stick, do it while they're on the pitch - after that, they're people like you and me.
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Pitchforks for sale! Get your pitchforks and torches.
"Pitchfork, sir?"
"That'll be 3 quid. How 'bout I add a torch and we call it a fiver?"
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Given that we'll struggle to get rid of some of our highest earning dross, I see no harm in making it clear to them that we want them gone.
It'll be interesting to see what happens on the final whistle against Newcastle. I fully expect the players to move quicker than they have all season when (if?) fans run onto the pitch.
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Just make their lives as uncomfortable for someone on 30-40 grand a week as it is possible to do within the law. If you think about it, every time the likes of Gabby or Richards goes into town shopping, or to a restaurant, or the movies, they must encounter dozens of Villa fans.
Whereas previously they'd maybe have people wanting selfies, or autographs, or just a 2 minute yarn with one of their heroes; I think we as fans can do our bit in letting them know exactly what we think.
Let them know they're a disgrace, not fit to wear the shirt, stealing a living from us and poor imitations of bygone true legends of the club. Make their lives uncomfortable to the point where they have to weigh up whether it's best for them to keep drawing their fat, unearned salaries, or take a new deal, any deal to get away.
Really?! You're advocating approaching players away from the club simply to give them verbal abuse? It's really not that important.
What if their kids are there? How scary would it be for a young child to see their dad get abuse from a random stranger in the street?
If you really want to give them some stick, do it while they're on the pitch - after that, they're people like you and me.
I'm with Robbo. Fuck em.
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Just make their lives as uncomfortable for someone on 30-40 grand a week as it is possible to do within the law. If you think about it, every time the likes of Gabby or Richards goes into town shopping, or to a restaurant, or the movies, they must encounter dozens of Villa fans.
Whereas previously they'd maybe have people wanting selfies, or autographs, or just a 2 minute yarn with one of their heroes; I think we as fans can do our bit in letting them know exactly what we think.
Let them know they're a disgrace, not fit to wear the shirt, stealing a living from us and poor imitations of bygone true legends of the club. Make their lives uncomfortable to the point where they have to weigh up whether it's best for them to keep drawing their fat, unearned salaries, or take a new deal, any deal to get away.
Really?! You're advocating approaching players away from the club simply to give them verbal abuse? It's really not that important.
What if their kids are there? How scary would it be for a young child to see their dad get abuse from a random stranger in the street?
If you really want to give them some stick, do it while they're on the pitch - after that, they're people like you and me.
I'm with Robbo. Fuck em.
And what if one of these professional athletes, who are fitter than most of us can only dream about, belts you one?
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More to the point is it our fault? Did anyone watch MOTD saturday? Monkey man Keown saying it's not easy for the players to be playing in toxic atmosphere's or something like that, something similar was said on Soccer Saturday by Thompson.
So is it us or what?
The atmosphere wasn't toxic when we won 1 of the opening 20 games was it?
This. This exactly.
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Just make their lives as uncomfortable for someone on 30-40 grand a week as it is possible to do within the law. If you think about it, every time the likes of Gabby or Richards goes into town shopping, or to a restaurant, or the movies, they must encounter dozens of Villa fans.
Whereas previously they'd maybe have people wanting selfies, or autographs, or just a 2 minute yarn with one of their heroes; I think we as fans can do our bit in letting them know exactly what we think.
Let them know they're a disgrace, not fit to wear the shirt, stealing a living from us and poor imitations of bygone true legends of the club. Make their lives uncomfortable to the point where they have to weigh up whether it's best for them to keep drawing their fat, unearned salaries, or take a new deal, any deal to get away.
Really?! You're advocating approaching players away from the club simply to give them verbal abuse? It's really not that important.
What if their kids are there? How scary would it be for a young child to see their dad get abuse from a random stranger in the street?
If you really want to give them some stick, do it while they're on the pitch - after that, they're people like you and me.
Spot on.
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Just make their lives as uncomfortable for someone on 30-40 grand a week as it is possible to do within the law. If you think about it, every time the likes of Gabby or Richards goes into town shopping, or to a restaurant, or the movies, they must encounter dozens of Villa fans.
Whereas previously they'd maybe have people wanting selfies, or autographs, or just a 2 minute yarn with one of their heroes; I think we as fans can do our bit in letting them know exactly what we think.
Let them know they're a disgrace, not fit to wear the shirt, stealing a living from us and poor imitations of bygone true legends of the club. Make their lives uncomfortable to the point where they have to weigh up whether it's best for them to keep drawing their fat, unearned salaries, or take a new deal, any deal to get away.
Really?! You're advocating approaching players away from the club simply to give them verbal abuse? It's really not that important.
What if their kids are there? How scary would it be for a young child to see their dad get abuse from a random stranger in the street?
If you really want to give them some stick, do it while they're on the pitch - after that, they're people like you and me.
I'm with Robbo. Fuck em.
And what if one of these professional athletes, who are fitter than most of us can only dream about, belts you one?
I'd lamp him one and no mistake. Richardson would probably miss
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Really?! You're advocating approaching players away from the club simply to give them verbal abuse? It's really not that important.
What if their kids are there? How scary would it be for a young child to see their dad get abuse from a random stranger in the street?
If you really want to give them some stick, do it while they're on the pitch - after that, they're people like you and me.
In Italy, I understand ultras have been known to turn up at training armed with bats, crowbars and the like to let the players know that they're dis-satisfied.
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Just make their lives as uncomfortable for someone on 30-40 grand a week as it is possible to do within the law. If you think about it, every time the likes of Gabby or Richards goes into town shopping, or to a restaurant, or the movies, they must encounter dozens of Villa fans.
Whereas previously they'd maybe have people wanting selfies, or autographs, or just a 2 minute yarn with one of their heroes; I think we as fans can do our bit in letting them know exactly what we think.
Let them know they're a disgrace, not fit to wear the shirt, stealing a living from us and poor imitations of bygone true legends of the club. Make their lives uncomfortable to the point where they have to weigh up whether it's best for them to keep drawing their fat, unearned salaries, or take a new deal, any deal to get away.
Really?! You're advocating approaching players away from the club simply to give them verbal abuse? It's really not that important.
What if their kids are there? How scary would it be for a young child to see their dad get abuse from a random stranger in the street?
If you really want to give them some stick, do it while they're on the pitch - after that, they're people like you and me.
I'm with Robbo. Fuck em.
And what if one of these professional athletes, who are fitter than most of us can only dream about, belts you one?
I'd lamp him one and no mistake. Richardson would probably miss
Of course you would.
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A measured response mate, but the selling club usually receives a fee, unless you are suggesting we pay clubs to take certain players off our books? Some of the players we're currently burdened with, that's not too far off the mark!
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Rather than brawling in Grand Central with a millionaire player of limited ability, attitude and intellect, while his opportunistic partner stood by checking her look in the nearest shop window, I would prefer to stop in my tracks and catch their eye with a particularly stiff "Paddington Stare".
That'll learn 'em!
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Just make their lives as uncomfortable for someone on 30-40 grand a week as it is possible to do within the law. If you think about it, every time the likes of Gabby or Richards goes into town shopping, or to a restaurant, or the movies, they must encounter dozens of Villa fans.
Whereas previously they'd maybe have people wanting selfies, or autographs, or just a 2 minute yarn with one of their heroes; I think we as fans can do our bit in letting them know exactly what we think.
Let them know they're a disgrace, not fit to wear the shirt, stealing a living from us and poor imitations of bygone true legends of the club. Make their lives uncomfortable to the point where they have to weigh up whether it's best for them to keep drawing their fat, unearned salaries, or take a new deal, any deal to get away.
Really?! You're advocating approaching players away from the club simply to give them verbal abuse? It's really not that important.
What if their kids are there? How scary would it be for a young child to see their dad get abuse from a random stranger in the street?
If you really want to give them some stick, do it while they're on the pitch - after that, they're people like you and me.
I'm with Robbo. Fuck em.
And what if one of these professional athletes, who are fitter than most of us can only dream about, belts you one?
I'd lamp him one and no mistake. Richardson would probably miss
Of course you would.
Easy, I'm handy when I'm pished. I'd take the biggest out first, then the rest would shit their keks
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If we could clear the decks at as close to break even as possible, that would be a massive result. If (big if, I know!) we could get £5m for Richards, that would go a long way to making this possible.
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Easy, I'm handy when I'm pished. I'd take the biggest out first, then the rest would shit their keks
You've seen the size of some of them? Like kids who are all now bigger than their parents when they're about 12, footballers have become giants almost overnight.
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Easy, I'm handy when I'm pished. I'd take the biggest out first, then the rest would shit their keks
You've seen the size of some of them? Like kids who are all now bigger than their parents when they're about 12, footballers have become giants almost overnight.
Yep, but it aint the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog. Which means I could probably do the lot of them with my one-inch punch ( and don't anyone substitute the word "punch" for "penis" and tell me they've fixed my quote)
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As some French philosopher once said, you don't stop fighting the gorilla when you're tired, you stop fighting the gorilla when it gets tired or some old shit like that.
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I don't care how tired a Gorilla is, I'm not fighting one.
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Just make their lives as uncomfortable for someone on 30-40 grand a week as it is possible to do within the law. If you think about it, every time the likes of Gabby or Richards goes into town shopping, or to a restaurant, or the movies, they must encounter dozens of Villa fans.
Whereas previously they'd maybe have people wanting selfies, or autographs, or just a 2 minute yarn with one of their heroes; I think we as fans can do our bit in letting them know exactly what we think.
Let them know they're a disgrace, not fit to wear the shirt, stealing a living from us and poor imitations of bygone true legends of the club. Make their lives uncomfortable to the point where they have to weigh up whether it's best for them to keep drawing their fat, unearned salaries, or take a new deal, any deal to get away.
Really?! You're advocating approaching players away from the club simply to give them verbal abuse? It's really not that important.
What if their kids are there? How scary would it be for a young child to see their dad get abuse from a random stranger in the street?
If you really want to give them some stick, do it while they're on the pitch - after that, they're people like you and me.
thats exactly what I'm saying ad@m. Leave now. Take whatever deal you can get elsewhere. Go. Now. I said I'm not advocating assaulting them or screaming obscenities at them, which could affect their families, just let them know at every opportunity that they are no longer welcome for the reasons stated above. Let them weigh up whether they want to continue to steal a living from the mugs who pay their wages, through ticket, merchandising, refreshment sales and sky subscriptions. This first team squad deserve everything they hopefully get.
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As Oscar Wilde said: Some cause happiness wherever they go; others whenever they go.
The sooner this shower fuck off, the better.
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I don't care how tired a Gorilla is, I'm not fighting one.
I couldn't live without one; I love cheese on toast.
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Just casually walk up to Richards and very meekly say 'you've got the worst positional sense of any defender I've ever seen... Everyone here thinks you're crap'. Maybe even limp and hunch your back. Actually just get on old family member to do it. He won't do sh*t.
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Reminds me I must ensure I visit the homes of all our Credit Analysts tonight to harass them after the shit month end result we had.
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Just make their lives as uncomfortable for someone on 30-40 grand a week as it is possible to do within the law. If you think about it, every time the likes of Gabby or Richards goes into town shopping, or to a restaurant, or the movies, they must encounter dozens of Villa fans.
Whereas previously they'd maybe have people wanting selfies, or autographs, or just a 2 minute yarn with one of their heroes; I think we as fans can do our bit in letting them know exactly what we think.
Let them know they're a disgrace, not fit to wear the shirt, stealing a living from us and poor imitations of bygone true legends of the club. Make their lives uncomfortable to the point where they have to weigh up whether it's best for them to keep drawing their fat, unearned salaries, or take a new deal, any deal to get away.
Really?! You're advocating approaching players away from the club simply to give them verbal abuse? It's really not that important.
What if their kids are there? How scary would it be for a young child to see their dad get abuse from a random stranger in the street?
If you really want to give them some stick, do it while they're on the pitch - after that, they're people like you and me.
I'm with Robbo. Fuck em.
And what if one of these professional athletes, who are fitter than most of us can only dream about, belts you one?
then they've acted outside the law and should be dealt with appropriately.
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I don't care how tired a Gorilla is, I'm not fighting one.
I'd draw the line at a gorilla. I'd happily take out one of those monkeys that sit on barrel organs though, the drugged up ones that wear a fez and a dickie bow. Bastards
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One of the problems with meeting any of the players out in public is that many of them have appeared to be very clumsy and awkward for several seasons and are quite likely to accidently spill a plate of food over a nearby diner or drop a burger on the shoe of a passer by. This is not some form of intentional support it simply relates to an inability to appraise a situation.
Tripping over a dropped sheet of A4 paper or dropping a bunch of flowers comes as second nature to our brave boys and concentration is arguably not one of their strong points.
Beware of our players in Public Places - you don't know where they have been and its highly likely they don't either.
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What about thrones that sneak into your hotel room at night, steal all your snacks and trash your room whilst you're passed out drunk. 1 or 2 you'd maybe take down. But a whole team of them?
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What about thrones that sneak into your hotel room at night, steal all your snacks and trash your room whilst you're passed out drunk.
Didn't that happen to a Crystal Palace fan we both know when he was in India?
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Just make their lives as uncomfortable for someone on 30-40 grand a week as it is possible to do within the law. If you think about it, every time the likes of Gabby or Richards goes into town shopping, or to a restaurant, or the movies, they must encounter dozens of Villa fans.
Whereas previously they'd maybe have people wanting selfies, or autographs, or just a 2 minute yarn with one of their heroes; I think we as fans can do our bit in letting them know exactly what we think.
Let them know they're a disgrace, not fit to wear the shirt, stealing a living from us and poor imitations of bygone true legends of the club. Make their lives uncomfortable to the point where they have to weigh up whether it's best for them to keep drawing their fat, unearned salaries, or take a new deal, any deal to get away.
Really?! You're advocating approaching players away from the club simply to give them verbal abuse? It's really not that important.
What if their kids are there? How scary would it be for a young child to see their dad get abuse from a random stranger in the street?
If you really want to give them some stick, do it while they're on the pitch - after that, they're people like you and me.
I'm with Robbo. Fuck em.
And what if one of these professional athletes, who are fitter than most of us can only dream about, belts you one?
then they've acted outside the law and should be dealt with appropriately.
As have you by abusing them.
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Easy, I'm handy when I'm pished. I'd take the biggest out first, then the rest would shit their keks
You've seen the size of some of them? Like kids who are all now bigger than their parents when they're about 12, footballers have become giants almost overnight.
Yep, but it aint the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog. Which means I could probably do the lot of them with my one-inch punch.
Let's face it, if they did show any fight it'd be about time.
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Just make their lives as uncomfortable for someone on 30-40 grand a week as it is possible to do within the law. If you think about it, every time the likes of Gabby or Richards goes into town shopping, or to a restaurant, or the movies, they must encounter dozens of Villa fans.
Whereas previously they'd maybe have people wanting selfies, or autographs, or just a 2 minute yarn with one of their heroes; I think we as fans can do our bit in letting them know exactly what we think.
Let them know they're a disgrace, not fit to wear the shirt, stealing a living from us and poor imitations of bygone true legends of the club. Make their lives uncomfortable to the point where they have to weigh up whether it's best for them to keep drawing their fat, unearned salaries, or take a new deal, any deal to get away.
Really?! You're advocating approaching players away from the club simply to give them verbal abuse? It's really not that important.
What if their kids are there? How scary would it be for a young child to see their dad get abuse from a random stranger in the street?
If you really want to give them some stick, do it while they're on the pitch - after that, they're people like you and me.
I'm with Robbo. Fuck em.
And what if one of these professional athletes, who are fitter than most of us can only dream about, belts you one?
then they've acted outside the law and should be dealt with appropriately.
As have you by abusing them.
Is telling someone they're rubbish and you want them gone from a football club against the law? Just for arguements sake, I don't know either way.
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Is this the shittest thread ever?
They know they are playing badly and they know the fans aren't happy. It's probably been the hardest season of their lives and most will realise their careers are in jeopardy or at the least on a severe downward spiral. I know it's all relative and they are very well compensated, but I can guarantee you as individuals the last thing they want to do is play badly, lose and be ridiculed on TV and in the national press week in and week out. People who think they are doing this on purpose just haven't got a clue. A few idiots shouting at them in the street wont make one iota of difference in the scheme of things.
So no, it is not your duty to drive the players out. It is your prerogative to express your views in the ground as fee paying fans or on internet forums if you so wish. But approaching them in the street is not on. And we laugh at the Blues for being knuckledraggers.
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but I can guarantee you as individuals the last thing they want to do is play badly
yet they continue to do it every week?
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but I can guarantee you as individuals the last thing they want to do is play badly
yet they continue to do it every week?
They might not want to play badly but equally they appear not to be prepared to put the effort in to play well.
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but I can guarantee you as individuals the last thing they want to do is play badly
yet they continue to do it every week?
They are devoid of confidence and in a rut. They are under performing and the atmosphere in the dressing room is probably pretty sour. It becomes self perpetuating, further sapping any remaining confidence and it's a difficult thing to turn around. The players are probably dreading every Saturday more than us and probably can't wait to get off the pitch. It doesn't mean they want to lose. Anyone who has played sport would understand this. Robbie Savage has talked about it when he was relegated with Derby.
Just look at what happened to Jordan Speith this weekend to see what can happen to even the worlds best sportsman once they lose confidence and get on a bad run. In every sport you watch there are examples of confidence players. Leicester are the polar opposite, they got on a good run, confidence is sky high and average players are outer performing week in week out.
We won't be buying a whole new team this summer and will need some of these players to help us get out of this mess. Obviously in an ideal world some will leave, but the bomb squad taught us that it is impossible to force the issue. Screaming in their faces in the street won't help. So, if you must drag your knuckles, personally I'd prefer you did it elsewhere.
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but I can guarantee you as individuals the last thing they want to do is play badly
yet they continue to do it every week?
They are devoid of confidence and in a rut. They are under performing and the atmosphere in the dressing room is probably pretty sour. It becomes self perpetuating, further sapping any remaining confidence and it's a difficult thing to turn around. The players are probably dreading every Saturday more than us and probably can't wait to get off the pitch. It doesn't mean they want to lose. Anyone who has played sport would understand this. Robbie Savage has talked about it when he was relegated with Derby.
Just look at what happened to Jordan Speith this weekend to see what can happen to even the worlds best sportsman once they lose confidence and get on a bad run. In every sport you watch there are examples of confidence players. Leicester are the polar opposite, they got on a good run, confidence is sky high and average players are outer performing week in week out.
We won't be buying a whole new team this summer and will need some of these players to help us get out of this mess. Obviously in an ideal world some will leave, but the bomb squad taught us that it is impossible to force the issue. Screaming in their faces in the street won't help. So, if you must drag your knuckles, personally I'd prefer you did it elsewhere.
No, sorry, I'd still like to punch every one of their fucking lights out.
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but I can guarantee you as individuals the last thing they want to do is play badly
yet they continue to do it every week?
They are devoid of confidence and in a rut. They are under performing and the atmosphere in the dressing room is probably pretty sour. It becomes self perpetuating, further sapping any remaining confidence and it's a difficult thing to turn around. The players are probably dreading every Saturday more than us and probably can't wait to get off the pitch. It doesn't mean they want to lose. Anyone who has played sport would understand this. Robbie Savage has talked about it when he was relegated with Derby.
Just look at what happened to Jordan Speith this weekend to see what can happen to even the worlds best sportsman once they lose confidence and get on a bad run. In every sport you watch there are examples of confidence players. Leicester are the polar opposite, they got on a good run, confidence is sky high and average players are outer performing week in week out.
We won't be buying a whole new team this summer and will need some of these players to help us get out of this mess. Obviously in an ideal world some will leave, but the bomb squad taught us that it is impossible to force the issue. Screaming in their faces in the street won't help. So, if you must drag your knuckles, personally I'd prefer you did it elsewhere.
No, sorry, I'd still like to punch every one of their fucking lights out.
Well then, you would be far better suited to supporting the Blues.
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You old rascal, flouting site rules....
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You old rascal, flouting site rules....
And simmering violence isn't? I'm not calling you a Bluenose, just pointing out that some of the behavior suggested on this thread is more akin to the popular view here of their supporters,not ours.
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As a team we've run less miles than any other team, we haven't worked as hard. How do you explain that other than bone idleness?
I don't know why some are taking the effort to defend them. They really don't deserve it.
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As a team we've run less miles than any other team, we haven't worked as hard. How do you explain that other than bone idleness?
That's it for me.
Confidence plays a part, of course.
But the foundation should always be hard work and toil.
What's that saying about the harder I work, the luckier get? Some of our sponges have completely turned that on its head.
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As a team we've run less miles than any other team, we haven't worked as hard. How do you explain that other than bone idleness?
I don't know why some are taking the effort to defend them. They really don't deserve it.
It's not so much defending them as understanding there is a difference between playing badly and deliberately playing badly / not caring as has often been alluded to here. No one can defend the shocking performances of the team this season - relegation speaks for itself, but that doesn't mean the players individually don't care about it. I suspect they care very much indeed.
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I think we should all save up and send them on a Spanish holiday when the season is over.
How much are flights to Pamplona?
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I don't know why some are taking the effort to defend them. They really don't deserve it.
There's a bit of a difference between somebody defending their performances this season and somebody saying that abusing them in the street in front of their families is a bit of a silly way of dealing with things.
Not that I think for a moment that in the real world if anybody from here walked past Bacuna or Lescott in the supermarket they would do anything more threatening than maybe quietly swear under their breath and keep walking.
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I once called Ed Harcourt a miserable git. Mind you, he is a four foot strip of piss.
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Didn't Lescott challenge a fan to meet him after training for a straightener? Wanker
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Didn't Lescott challenge a fan to meet him after training for a straightener? Wanker
He was probably twittering with his cock again.
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Didn't Lescott challenge a fan to meet him after training for a straightener? Wanker
After they threatened him. Why is he a wanker as you seem to think that kind of thing is okay?
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Didn't Lescott challenge a fan to meet him after training for a straightener? Wanker
After they threatened him. Why is he a wanker as you seem to think that kind of thing is okay?
Maybe read my tongue in cheek posts again. He's still a Wanker though.
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I don't know why some are taking the effort to defend them. They really don't deserve it.
There's a bit of a difference between somebody defending their performances this season and somebody saying that abusing them in the street in front of their families is a bit of a silly way of dealing with things.
Not that I think for a moment that in the real world if anybody from here walked past Bacuna or Lescott in the supermarket they would do anything more threatening than maybe quietly swear under their breath and keep walking.
I don't know why some are taking the effort to defend them. They really don't deserve it.
There's a bit of a difference between somebody defending their performances this season and somebody saying that abusing them in the street in front of their families is a bit of a silly way of dealing with things.
Not that I think for a moment that in the real world if anybody from here walked past Bacuna or Lescott in the supermarket they would do anything more threatening than maybe quietly swear under their breath and keep walking.
The day before his move to Middlesbrough was finalised, I bumped into Southgate walking out of New Street with a small suitcase of training gear and calling for a cab on his phone.
He got what felt like hours, but was more like a minute, of me calling him every rude word under the sun. I was about 20 years old back then though.
I would be more likely to do a disgusted shake if the head now.
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I liked the white hanky waving that MOTD filmed a Villa fan doing on Saturday. Perhaps we could all do it when they come out v Newcastle (but make sure you wash it first, don't fancy a Holte End littered with dried boogers)
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I liked the white hanky waving that MOTD filmed a Villa fan doing on Saturday. Perhaps we could all do it when they come out v Newcastle (but make sure you wash it first, don't fancy a Holte End littered with dried boogers)
Not to mention the passing of cold & flu germs, that would be awful
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I'm a bit surprised, "What a loada rubbish" hasn't had an airing yet, or has it?
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White Yankees, followed by throwing scarves on to the pitch at the end of the game, or, turn you backs on the players when they do their lap of appreciation.
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What about thrones that sneak into your hotel room at night, steal all your snacks and trash your room whilst you're passed out drunk.
Didn't that happen to a Crystal Palace fan we both know when he was in India?
yes it did in deed- very funny
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As a team we've run less miles than any other team, we haven't worked as hard. How do you explain that other than bone idleness?
I don't know why some are taking the effort to defend them. They really don't deserve it.
i don't think they care at all. I bet they'd fucking care if they never got paid between now and the end of the season though.
It's not so much defending them as understanding there is a difference between playing badly and deliberately playing badly / not caring as has often been alluded to here. No one can defend the shocking performances of the team this season - relegation speaks for itself, but that doesn't mean the players individually don't care about it. I suspect they care very much indeed.