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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: ciggiesnbeer on March 30, 2016, 08:57:34 PM
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David Bernstein :
I know that if things don't work out this season - and we still hope they will - the journey back is always very, very exciting.
I have been involved in that before and as you improve and start to get that success, it's a fantastic journey which the fans will enjoy enormously
This line stuck me when he said it and was also mentioned by some esteemed posters here. So maybe a thread to anticipate then relish next season as we stroll through the Championship is worth while?
Despite the negatives there are some facts. We will be the biggest club in the Championship, we will have the best balance sheet (according to Hollis) , we will have a new manager who will be getting players all approved of and found by our new footballing board which has real pro's on it.
Wwe have several players already who are a class above anything else in the Championship even before new additions plus some of our overpaid garbage is out of contract and will bugger off in May.
We can have our regular winning match post mortems talking about how we can improve and which players do not fit our new dynamic play rather than the usual.
So I am coming around to actually looking forward to next season, maybe we will be the bullies of the league coming back up fitter, leaner with a real sense of how we want our team to play.
Anyone other optimists looking forward to the fantastic journey back?
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To be honest I've really struggled to attend for the past couple of seasons. Even though I'm a ST holder it's been a real drag going every fortnight. I'm hoping that at least next season I can go to a game feeling optimistic and not resigned and dispirited. I wasn't going to renew next season, but I'm taking a leap of faith in doing so hoping for some good times. They've been few and far between over the last 6 years. So here's to the road back and any thrills and spills it can offer...
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I'm sick of being negative. I'm tired of disliking players. I'm fed up of taking beatings and being the laughing stock club. I'm well ready for some positivity.
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At the start of next season I'll be wondering whether we can win the league. I haven't done that since I was in my first year of sixth form.
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New Season, New League, New Team, New Manager. Its all good!!
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David Bernstein :
I know that if things don't work out this season - and we still hope they will - the journey back is always very, very exciting.
I have been involved in that before and as you improve and start to get that success, it's a fantastic journey which the fans will enjoy enormously
This line stuck me when he said it and was also mentioned by some esteemed posters here. So maybe a thread to anticipate then relish next season as we stroll through the Championship is worth while?
Despite the negatives there are some facts. We will be the biggest club in the Championship, we will have the best balance sheet (according to Hollis) , we will have a new manager who will be getting players all approved of and found by our new footballing board which has real pro's on it.
Wwe have several players already who are a class above anything else in the Championship even before new additions plus some of our overpaid garbage is out of contract and will bugger off in May.
We can have our regular winning match post mortems talking about how we can improve and which players do not fit our new dynamic play rather than the usual.
So I am coming around to actually looking forward to next season, maybe we will be the bullies of the league coming back up fitter, leaner with a real sense of how we want our team to play.
Anyone other optimists looking forward to the fantastic journey back?
Sorry mate but I.don't share your optimism just yet, although I do admire your positivity.
The players who are a class above (whoever they are) may not be here next season and our recruitment policy remains to be seen.
Hopefully, you're right and I'm wrong. The first indication will be the new manager, I've already said my first choice would be Dyche but I would be happy with Moyes for example,. I'm going to reserve my judgment on this new beginning
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It will be ace not having to keep scrolling down to see where we are in the league. Or indeed to want to actually look at the league table. Seeing us win more than once every couple of months will be nice as well.
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There's numerous other threads to rant/moan/be negative/realistic etc on.
How about we keep just this one thread for positivity?
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There's numerous other threads to rant/moan/be negative/realistic etc on.
How about we keep just this one thread for positivity?
Thought that was the idea. Ruined inside half a dozen posts. Can we start again?
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Remember under SGT at Ipswich away first game, a flag in our end saying "Villa Revolution".
It was, and it was great.
Same again please.
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Perversely, I really want to see how this board handles this appointment. It's quite exciting. So is the summer transfer window. I have hope and some faith in this board.
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Here's to getting to some new grounds! I think the away days will be the highlight of next season.
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Knowing we do not have to play Man U, Man City, Chelsea twice a season, although we will probably get them in the Cups won't we but then we are going to win both cup competitions.
Experiencing Second Tier Football, I was born June 1987 so can't really say i was there last time it happened.
Entering the League Cup at the First round for the first time in ages
Feeling like we can win every game.
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Playing Liverpool at home in the cup and doing a giant killing.
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I can still vividly remember beating Plymouth 5-2. I've just looked it up, it was 27 Feb 1988. There are games from two or three seasons ago that I couldn't begin to remember. That feeling of beating teams comfortably was epic.
Strangely, the week after we beat Bradford 1-0 I had my TB jab at school. The nurse said to think about something nice to take my mind off the injection. And I can still picture David Platt's header today.
Great times.
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As said before, it will be terrific on the first day of the season having optimism that we have a chance of winning the league, wow, bring on next season, onwards and UPWARDS. UTV
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Perversely, I really want to see how this board handles this appointment. It's quite exciting. So is the summer transfer window. I have hope and some faith in this board.
Totally sums up my thoughts.
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Opening day of the season. A confident new manager with strong squad additions oversees an impressive display in the sunshine. 4-0 would be a nice start.
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The year we were in Division 1 in 1987 we drew Spurs at home in the League Cup and the reports talked about a giant killing after a 2-1 win in which Mark Lillis might have even scored.
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Unbeaten next season. Mad? There's no reason why not. We're Aston Villa. Rise up!
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If we're pretty much relegated by Easter this season it would be great to secure promotion back by Easter next season. Also getting some momentum and unbeaten runs. Bloody hell.
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Hold onto your seats!
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Wins, imagine some wins again more often then every 2 or 3 months.
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Can I just say that it's an even more fantastic journey back after dropping two divisions.
Especially when the Third Division brings a proud League Cup final appearance at Wembley and winning the FA Youth Cup with a team containing players who would play a big part in the fantastic journey to come.
….and winning the League Cup as a Second Division side in a storming finish to a season that also brings promotion back to the top flight.
I could live through all that again, even if does include FA Cup first round exits at Southend and Torquay.
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Hold onto your seats!
You've just come up with the season ticket renewal headline..
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I'm sick of being negative. I'm tired of disliking players. I'm fed up of taking beatings and being the laughing stock club. I'm well ready for some positivity.
Agree entirely. I'm looking forward to next season mainly because it isn't another year of circling the drain of despair. The board changes fill me with the hope that better decisions will be made in the future.
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I can still vividly remember beating Plymouth 5-2. I've just looked it up, it was 27 Feb 1988. There are games from two or three seasons ago that I couldn't begin to remember. That feeling of beating teams comfortably was epic.
Strangely, the week after we beat Bradford 1-0 I had my TB jab at school. The nurse said to think about something nice to take my mind off the injection. And I can still picture David Platt's header today.
Great times.
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Not sure if this has been mentioned elsewhere, but since it's the positive thread... how nice to see this in the papers rather than our supposed senior pros messing around. Well done to all concerned.
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/aston-villas-academy-stars-feed-11107459
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Looking forward to knocking Arsenal out of the FA Cup, winning the League Cup and beating Charlton 11-1.
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I recall that goal like it was yesterday. I was sat in the Upper Trinity North Stand end in line with the six yard box. As that cross came in we all saw Platt just dart into the open space. Brilliant cross, timed run and goal. Such an important win. Can't remember the attendance but it was quite good I think.
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I've never known the ground so frenzied. It was like we knew that every one of us was as much a part of it as the players. I think it was Jon Follows who said in the Holte's Last Stand that things like that happen about once every ten years and when they do we're unbeatable.
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Tremendous game so tense and such an amazing atmosphere.
One of the games I remember most that season was 5-0 at home to Hull when we started singing 'we'll be top by 5 O'clock.' Think it was New Year's Day.
It was a synonymous game because we couldn't win at home that season and we really started to believe after that win.
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Not fearing MOTD and generally enjoying the PL pantomime.
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Walking across Aston Park in anticipation before the game, and walking back after the game with a spring in my step thinking how great it feels to be winning games again
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The journey from Third Division to Champions Of Europe (when it meant something). The various teams we had in that era all played with Pride Passion and Commitment and it was repaid by the fans. Where you could see when some teams ran out at Villa Park they were already beaten. And every one at the club was giving 110% as some bloke used to say.
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Singing "Villa are back, Villa are back, hello, hello".
Starting a season and actually thinking we have a chance this time.
Villa Park rocking again.
To see players playing with pride for the club that pays them.
Six points from our neighbours across the Aston Expressway.
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I've never known the ground so frenzied. It was like we knew that every one of us was as much a part of it as the players. I think it was Jon Follows who said in the Holte's Last Stand that things like that happen about once every ten years and when they do we're unbeatable.
The Holte was positively shaking! I was at Uni in East London so got the train back and it was a brilliant journey, train full of Villa and Wolves fans - who had just also won the old 4th division that day singing and partying together.
I could take days like that again!!
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it'll be great:
the derbies.
taking thousands to away games.
clearing the shit out of our club over the summer.
promoting the kids.
bringing in people who are proud to wear that shirt.
enjoying saturday afternoons again.
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11 players going out there proud to wear the Claret & Blue, playing with grit and a steely determination, underpinned by their manager, David Moyes.
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11 players going out there proud to wear the Claret & Blue, playing with grit and a steely determination, underpinned by their manager, David Moyes.
Hopefully theubwont be dour like him either.
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If we go right from here, and that includes getting rid of and isolating the parasites, then next season could be great fun.
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11 players going out there proud to wear the Claret & Blue, playing with grit and a steely determination, underpinned by their manager, David Moyes.
Hopefully theubwont be dour like him either.
Mr. Saunders wasn't exactly Mr. Happy, but it didn't seem to affect his playing style.
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Driving back from Swindon and the traffic jams in the town just before you get back on the M5 - car horns, people hanging out of car windows, getting out to walk along to other Villa fans in the queues, just to shake hands, hug or even kiss!
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If I could win enough money in the lottery to see me and Mrs B through the year I'd take a sabbatical from work and come back, buy two STs and go to every away match.
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I just want to enjoy watching the villa again. Hopefully it will be like last we went down, which was one of the best seasons I can remember. From the first game away at Ipswich when the police completely underestimated how many Villa fans would turn up, to being packed in at Swindon it was great to see and feel Villa being reborn. I only hope my son gets to experience the same next season. Lots of localish away games. Personally I am really looking forward to it.
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ultimately, you have to ask, what is more important to you, being in the premier league and scratching around at the bottom of the league, praying for Chelsea or United to stuff Bournemouth and ruin their goal difference OR getting to 2pm on a saturday, walking to the ground actually looking forward to the game and then hitting 5.15pm, cheering the final whistle, maybe another pint on the way back to celebrate, checking the top of the league table and reading a positive post match thread on the train home, beers and takeaway, watch MOTD and actually enjoy it, then being one of the first couple of games on the championship programme after. Absolute no brainer for me.
Make no bones about it, the next 2-3 months will decide on whether the second scenario comes to fruition but this relegation is exactly what this club and its fans need. Lets worry about the premier league another time
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It's all been said really. I'm also looking forward to next season. Not sure that I'm in a hurry to get back into the PL. be great to win promotion but I think the journey would be better than the arrival if that makes sense.
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I recall that goal like it was yesterday. I was sat in the Upper Trinity North Stand end in line with the six yard box. As that cross came in we all saw Platt just dart into the open space. Brilliant cross, timed run and goal. Such an important win. Can't remember the attendance but it was quite good I think.
Hello TV If my meomry serves me correctly it was 36,000, the highest crowd in the Division that year : )
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What I recall from last time, the best thing was being part of something special, something never to be forgotten. Yes, individual games will always be memorable but that whole season we were creating memories every week (or so it seemed). Going to new places in huge numbers, expecting (and getting) a result - not being cocky or arrogant, just optimistic.
Blues fans looking forward to celebrating our relegation (and I gather they're planning all sorts) won't be so happy if we do what we need to in the coming 12 months. It'll be us planning the party.
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David Bernstein :
Wwe have several players already who are a class above anything else in the Championship
I think Undertaker and Triple H are past it now.
Bernstein doesn't know what he's talking about.
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Being with Villa fans anywhere in whatever division- happy days always!!!
Looking forward to actually liking our players again, hopefully after a turnover of the current squad.
From the 3rd division days we've always had a special bond with the players up until recent years and
particularly this season. Being the 12th man again, should ensure more success for Villa in future years.
Re noses celebrating our relegation-SAD b-st-rds!
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David Bernstein :
I know that if things don't work out this season - and we still hope they will - the journey back is always very, very exciting.
I have been involved in that before and as you improve and start to get that success, it's a fantastic journey which the fans will enjoy enormously
This line stuck me when he said it and was also mentioned by some esteemed posters here. So maybe a thread to anticipate then relish next season as we stroll through the Championship is worth while?
Despite the negatives there are some facts. We will be the biggest club in the Championship, we will have the best balance sheet (according to Hollis) , we will have a new manager who will be getting players all approved of and found by our new footballing board which has real pro's on it.
Wwe have several players already who are a class above anything else in the Championship even before new additions plus some of our overpaid garbage is out of contract and will bugger off in May.
We can have our regular winning match post mortems talking about how we can improve and which players do not fit our new dynamic play rather than the usual.
So I am coming around to actually looking forward to next season, maybe we will be the bullies of the league coming back up fitter, leaner with a real sense of how we want our team to play.
Anyone other optimists looking forward to the fantastic journey back?
Sorry ciggie but;
Biggest club in the Championship?
Best balance sheet?
Several players already who are a class above anything else in the Championship ????
Even before new additions????
Plus some of our overpaid garbage is out of contract and will bugger off in May????
Can I ask what the f*** you have been smoking????
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We are big enough to make the second tier relevant again :D
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Playing Liverpool at home in the cup and doing a giant killing.
Are we also going back to the 70s? Liverpool giants? Giants of ordinary.
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Being able to take my then just turned 6 year old to a game. He keeps mothering about coming to football with me but I don't want to scar him by watching our current shit.
He is also grossly competitive so watching the team lose every week would turn him off it.
But if I could give him a first game where I can ham up our size, take him to the shop for merchandise and then see us roll over Huddersfield, in a reasonably full ground and a clatter of noise, then he will be hooked for life.
Bring it on.
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Let's hope we all become "children of the revolution" part 2
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I recall that goal like it was yesterday. I was sat in the Upper Trinity North Stand end in line with the six yard box. As that cross came in we all saw Platt just dart into the open space. Brilliant cross, timed run and goal. Such an important win. Can't remember the attendance but it was quite good I think.
Hello TV If my meomry serves me correctly it was 36,000, the highest crowd in the Division that year : )
36,423
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I've never known the ground so frenzied. It was like we knew that every one of us was as much a part of it as the players. I think it was Jon Follows who said in the Holte's Last Stand that things like that happen about once every ten years and when they do we're unbeatable.
The Holte was positively shaking! I was at Uni in East London so got the train back and it was a brilliant journey, train full of Villa and Wolves fans - who had just also won the old 4th division that day singing and partying together.
I could take days like that again!!
Great to see that goal again, I see that header in my sleep sometimes 😂 such good times we're overdue some more next year.
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I recall that goal like it was yesterday. I was sat in the Upper Trinity North Stand end in line with the six yard box. As that cross came in we all saw Platt just dart into the open space. Brilliant cross, timed run and goal. Such an important win. Can't remember the attendance but it was quite good I think.
I know "who was the best header of a ball?" is a topic which crops up as an aside fairly regularly across threads, particularily amongst our number with, ahem, longer memories than most, but Platt must surely be up amongst them? His timing and technique were impeccable.
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I recall that goal like it was yesterday. I was sat in the Upper Trinity North Stand end in line with the six yard box. As that cross came in we all saw Platt just dart into the open space. Brilliant cross, timed run and goal. Such an important win. Can't remember the attendance but it was quite good I think.
Hello TV If my meomry serves me correctly it was 36,000, the highest crowd in the Division that year : )
36,423
Thanks gents. It really was a super atmosphere.
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David Bernstein :
I know that if things don't work out this season - and we still hope they will - the journey back is always very, very exciting.
I have been involved in that before and as you improve and start to get that success, it's a fantastic journey which the fans will enjoy enormously
This line stuck me when he said it and was also mentioned by some esteemed posters here. So maybe a thread to anticipate then relish next season as we stroll through the Championship is worth while?
Despite the negatives there are some facts. We will be the biggest club in the Championship, we will have the best balance sheet (according to Hollis) , we will have a new manager who will be getting players all approved of and found by our new footballing board which has real pro's on it.
Wwe have several players already who are a class above anything else in the Championship even before new additions plus some of our overpaid garbage is out of contract and will bugger off in May.
We can have our regular winning match post mortems talking about how we can improve and which players do not fit our new dynamic play rather than the usual.
So I am coming around to actually looking forward to next season, maybe we will be the bullies of the league coming back up fitter, leaner with a real sense of how we want our team to play.
Anyone other optimists looking forward to the fantastic journey back?
Sorry ciggie but;
Biggest club in the Championship?
Best balance sheet?
Several players already who are a class above anything else in the Championship ????
Even before new additions????
Plus some of our overpaid garbage is out of contract and will bugger off in May????
Can I ask what the f*** you have been smoking????
Other stuff debatable but first line is spot on we will be 100% the biggest club in the championship
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ultimately, you have to ask, what is more important to you, being in the premier league and scratching around at the bottom of the league, praying for Chelsea or United to stuff Bournemouth and ruin their goal difference OR getting to 2pm on a saturday, walking to the ground actually looking forward to the game and then hitting 5.15pm, cheering the final whistle, maybe another pint on the way back to celebrate, checking the top of the league table and reading a positive post match thread on the train home, beers and takeaway, watch MOTD and actually enjoy it, then being one of the first couple of games on the championship programme after. Absolute no brainer for me.
Make no bones about it, the next 2-3 months will decide on whether the second scenario comes to fruition but this relegation is exactly what this club and its fans need. Lets worry about the premier league another time
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ultimately, you have to ask, what is more important to you, being in the premier league and scratching around at the bottom of the league, praying for Chelsea or United to stuff Bournemouth and ruin their goal difference OR getting to 2pm on a saturday, walking to the ground actually looking forward to the game and then hitting 5.15pm, cheering the final whistle, maybe another pint on the way back to celebrate, checking the top of the league table and reading a positive post match thread on the train home, beers and takeaway, watch MOTD and actually enjoy it, then being one of the first couple of games on the championship programme after. Absolute no brainer for me.
Make no bones about it, the next 2-3 months will decide on whether the second scenario comes to fruition but this relegation is exactly what this club and its fans need. Lets worry about the premier league another time
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Only issue with this is we'll be on the C5 car crash before MOTD.
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ultimately, you have to ask, what is more important to you, being in the premier league and scratching around at the bottom of the league, praying for Chelsea or United to stuff Bournemouth and ruin their goal difference OR getting to 2pm on a saturday, walking to the ground actually looking forward to the game and then hitting 5.15pm, cheering the final whistle, maybe another pint on the way back to celebrate, checking the top of the league table and reading a positive post match thread on the train home, beers and takeaway, watch MOTD and actually enjoy it, then being one of the first couple of games on the championship programme after. Absolute no brainer for me.
Make no bones about it, the next 2-3 months will decide on whether the second scenario comes to fruition but this relegation is exactly what this club and its fans need. Lets worry about the premier league another time
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Only issue with this is we'll be on the C5 car crash before MOTD.
Yes very true, Jesus that show and the way its presented is utter gash
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Not wishing to hijack the thread but, David Platt is everything that Jack Grealish should aspire to. Let go from Manure and moved to Crewe, knuckled down, played well, got picked up by Villa, improved his game, scored some fabulous goals for us and then went on to have a very successful international career. All culminating in a move to Arsenal, a club vying with Manure to be the top club in England. He went full circle due to hard work and the correct attitude.
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I suggest Underarmour replicate the 87/88 hummel in tribute - maybe a modern upgrade on the original budgie smuggler shorts 😆👌second thoughts make Agbonlahor, Richards and the rest of the nightcrawlers wear them as a punishment.
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Make them wear chevrons.
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Even if there's a fire-sale of all the saleable assets, we could have a lineup of Bunn, Amavi, Clark, Baker, Hutton, Westwood, Gardner, Sanchez, Lyden, Grealish, Kozak. Subs: Steer, Cisshoko, Bennett, Green, Calder, Gestede, Robinson.
Not good enough for the Prem, but good enough for the Champs. Plus we'll probably keep a few of the better existing players, and now be the ones in the position to be getting the loanees from the Sky Four to top up our squad.
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I actually like that line up for the Championship. Dont forget Ayew!
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Well I'm looking forward to going to some new away grounds, who Ning some home games, seeing goals and when Villa are away at Preston meeting some fellow forum members for a beer!
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I recall that goal like it was yesterday. I was sat in the Upper Trinity North Stand end in line with the six yard box. As that cross came in we all saw Platt just dart into the open space. Brilliant cross, timed run and goal. Such an important win. Can't remember the attendance but it was quite good I think.
c. 35,000
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If we can get it right on and off the pitch. Then next season will be a complete tonic. We are the biggest club in the Div 2 (sorry showing my age). And every match will be carnival. Can see lock outs and reports of rowdy midlanders abound.
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Remember this? How did we all get out alive? :D
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Remember this? How did we all get out alive? :D
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It was touch and go that we got in alive, let alone out.
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Remember this? How did we all get out alive? :D
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It was touch and go that we got in alive, let alone out.
I think there must have been me and a thousand others with the same ticket number.
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Make them wear chevrons.
At Silverstone.
With Mario Balotelli doing laps.
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Make them wear chevrons.
At Silverstone.
With Mario Balotelli doing laps.
And then make them drink London tap water.
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Decent looking badge on a good kit. Little and Townsend helping to run the show, talking us up in the media and reading some feel good stories. New players who fight for the badge. Applauding players off the pitch who've busted a gut. Wins. Away days. New heroes we haven't heard of yet. Perhaps a number 9 befitting of the number. Villa straight back in 12 months with momentum and a completely different prospect to the side they've all seen the last 5 years. Moyes in the hot seat? Being hard to beat. Jumpers for goalposts. Isn't it? Marvellous.
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Decent looking badge on a good kit. Little and Townsend helping to run the show, talking us up in the media and reading some feel good stories. New players who fight for the badge. Applauding players off the pitch who've busted a gut. Wins. Away days. New heroes we haven't heard of yet. Perhaps a number 9 befitting of the number. Villa straight back in 12 months with momentum and a completely different prospect to the side they've all seen the last 5 years. Moyes in the hot seat? Being hard to beat. Jumpers for goalposts. Isn't it? Marvellous.
I like the number 9 bit. Little spoke of that and how it is something that used to be a tradition. That is until was given the likes of Stephen Ireland and now Scott Sinclair. Would be nice to get back to that at some point.
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Remember this? How did we all get out alive? :D
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It was touch and go that we got in alive, let alone out.
I think there must have been me and a thousand others with the same ticket number.
Is that Coventry?
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Swindon when we were promoted.
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I wonder where it will happen next time. The Sty I hope.
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I wonder where it will happen next time. The Sty I hope.
Ideally, old trafford. :)