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Title: Fox is Gone
Post by: Richard E on March 17, 2016, 04:52:33 PM
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Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: Dave Cooper please on March 17, 2016, 04:53:51 PM
Well that's fucked up a few banners.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: nuninho on March 17, 2016, 04:54:20 PM
Whoo hoooo oooooh!
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 17, 2016, 04:54:23 PM
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Aston Villa Football Club today announce Tom Fox has decided to step down as CEO with immediate effect.

Chairman Steve Hollis said "The Board would like to place on record its appreciation to Tom for his many contributions and commitment over the last 18 months. While the results this season have been disappointing he and his team have worked hard to put in place many changes necessary to put the Club on a more sustainable path for the future. He leaves with our best wishes for the future."

Tom Fox said: "Joining Aston Villa was a huge privilege for me and while I'm bitterly disappointed by results this season, watching the Club compete at Wembley in the FA Cup Final last year is a memory I'll cherish. I'm appreciative to the Board and the owner for the opportunity to help put Villa back on a solid footing and able to compete in the most competitive sports league in the world. Aston Villa is a proud and storied Club which deserves to be among the elite in Europe and I have every confidence that it will once again find its way back.

"Regarding my resignation, the owner made it very clear last summer that he and I would seek to recruit a Board that would put the Club in a stronger position in the event that a sale didn't happen. As the Board has taken shape, however, it has become clear that my role also has changed. While I am supportive of where the Board is trying to take the Club, it is my feeling that given the changes they are making, it makes sense for me to seek another challenge. I have accepted the Board's invitation to remain available during a period of transition to ensure a smooth handover.

"I would like to thank the many among the Villa family that have been very kind with their time and support and generous to me on a personal level during my time with the Club. You know who you are and you know how I feel. In the end I came to work at Aston Villa because I saw a special opportunity to help a Club in need and like many supporters, I feel as if the Club actually chose me."

The Board will now commence its search for a permanent replacement. In the interim Steve Hollis will become the Executive Chairman.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 17, 2016, 04:54:27 PM
Bye Bye Tommy. I'm sure he'll enjoy the pay off and look back on his sterling work on the new kit and getting us relegated.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: cdbearsfan on March 17, 2016, 04:54:37 PM
Bye bye.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: Jimbo on March 17, 2016, 04:54:53 PM
Well that's fucked up a few banners.

Where the Fox Fox?
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 17, 2016, 04:54:53 PM
Well that's fucked up a few banners.

Haha, very good Mr Cooper

Maybe one can be created that just says OutFox-ed
Title: Fox Gone!
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on March 17, 2016, 04:56:18 PM
!
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: CT on March 17, 2016, 04:56:27 PM
Just been told at work. Good.

It could take years to undo all the fuck-ups. Thanks Tom.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: four fornicholl on March 17, 2016, 04:57:13 PM
Unlucky Tom, you slimy, sly batarde, you got busted
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on March 17, 2016, 05:00:44 PM
Way out of his depth.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: Risso on March 17, 2016, 05:01:17 PM
Good riddance. The Micah Richards of boardroom appointments.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: villabear on March 17, 2016, 05:01:59 PM
"I would like to thank the many among the Villa family that have been very kind with their time and support and generous to me on a personal level during my time with the Club. You know who you are and you know how I feel. "

Sounds like not everyone then.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: andyh on March 17, 2016, 05:02:52 PM
Good riddance.
Unfortunately it's too little, far too late.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: Dave on March 17, 2016, 05:03:09 PM
Presumably Paddy Riley is shifting in his seat uncomfortably now.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: ronshirt on March 17, 2016, 05:03:11 PM
Does that mean he's finished building whatever it was that was going to be special?
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: kieron on March 17, 2016, 05:04:13 PM
T'ra a bit.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: Woofles The Wonder Dog on March 17, 2016, 05:04:44 PM
I'm more foxed by the news we competed in the Cup Final. I must admit I might have missed the coin toss.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: Mister E on March 17, 2016, 05:04:49 PM
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I'm appreciative to the Board and the owner for the opportunity to help put Villa back on a solid footing
Yeah, right. Solid job there, Tom.
We'll miss you on a cold night in Donnie next season ...
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: wozwebs on March 17, 2016, 05:05:41 PM
Two down, one to go (PR)
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: villabear on March 17, 2016, 05:05:47 PM
Cmon Paddy, you know you want to
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: edgysatsuma89 on March 17, 2016, 05:06:17 PM
"I would like to thank the many among the Villa family that have been very kind with their time and support and generous to me on a personal level during my time with the Club. You know who you are and you know how I feel. "

Sounds like not everyone then.

That made me smile. Just like the dressing room.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: auntiesledd on March 17, 2016, 05:06:24 PM
Good - albeit long overdue. I'd be happier if I had confidence in Lerner to pick a replacement capable of running commercial operations half-decently at a football club, but I doubt if he has the ability to pick his own nose.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: Mister E on March 17, 2016, 05:06:33 PM
Cmon Paddy, you know you want to
They should have done Paddy today, on Paddy's Day.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: Bottom Right 89 on March 17, 2016, 05:10:10 PM
No doubt he and Almstadt will regroup and reappear with a decent salary elsewhere whilst we scratch around in the rubble looking for survivors to rebuild our club next season. Good riddance you bastards.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: Des Little on March 17, 2016, 05:10:32 PM
Anyone on here organising a whip round for him?
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: Tuscans on March 17, 2016, 05:11:54 PM
Good - albeit long overdue. I'd be happier if I had confidence in Lerner to pick a replacement capable of running commercial operations half-decently at a football club, but I doubt if he has the ability to pick his own nose.
I don't think he will be making the appointment of any sort from now on. The Olds upstairs are clearing the chaff out so lets hope they bring in some proper wheat.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: Tuscans on March 17, 2016, 05:12:36 PM
Reilly will be shot off in a few days too.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 17, 2016, 05:13:56 PM
Well I for one feel sorry for him.


Not really, good riddance to him. Seems pretty obvious he was massively out of his depth as a CEO. Hopefully the goon squad stewards won't act like wankers again now he's not dishing out the orders.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: MillerBall on March 17, 2016, 05:16:18 PM
Good Bye Basil Brush.

I am sure that your love of Arsenal made last seasons F.A. Cup Final a very proud moment for you.

I can safely say you were well and truly out of your depth at Villa Park by several thousand fathoms (also several thousand of us could never quite fathom out your decisions).

Your tenure at the club was a very unhappy one for those of us in Claret and Blue so please do not include us in your silly comments about the "Villa family."

Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: Chris Jameson on March 17, 2016, 05:20:14 PM
Five Live reported before the sports bulletin that things have just got worse for Aston Villa. I was expecting the news to be that we had somehow cloned Agbonlahor and Richards but it was actually that Fox had left. How has that made our season worse?
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: West Derby Villan on March 17, 2016, 05:21:42 PM
Why are all our decisions always about six months overdue
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: Risso on March 17, 2016, 05:26:04 PM
If he could give Richards and Agbonlahor a lift in his taxi, that would be good.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: Comrade Blitz on March 17, 2016, 05:26:17 PM
...and the horse you rode in on.....
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: villabear on March 17, 2016, 05:26:34 PM
Please lets get this in perspective. Shirt sales are up and thats all that matters to the likes of us customers.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: class-of-82 on March 17, 2016, 05:27:56 PM
Taxi for fox sake
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: olaftab on March 17, 2016, 05:28:36 PM
Anyone on here organising a whip round for him?
I already posses a whip and you can use it to make sure he doesn't hang around too long!
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 17, 2016, 05:29:00 PM
The hope is that we are cutting the throats of the management that has seriously let us down. The litmus test will be when relegation is confirmed and we see what players no longer get picked. It will provide us with a glimpse into who of the playing staff will be on the chopping block as part of this overall review. If Garde has been a part of this process, he'll have identified the problem players as part of his remit. The cleaning of the house needs to be all encompassing.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: Comrade Blitz on March 17, 2016, 05:30:04 PM
And hopefully certain of the players will be shitting bricks about now.....


Maybe Krulak can go Gunny Hartman on them


Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: olaftab on March 17, 2016, 05:30:52 PM
Presumably Paddy Riley is shifting in his seat uncomfortably now.
As head of Recruitment I presume he is recruiting himself into a job outside the  Club.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on March 17, 2016, 05:34:43 PM
Can someone do a Terminator parody with Hollis' face superimposed loving this bloke already!
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: FrankyH on March 17, 2016, 05:40:26 PM
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: Lizz on March 17, 2016, 05:40:56 PM
Five Live reported before the sports bulletin that things have just got worse for Aston Villa. I was expecting the news to be that we had somehow cloned Agbonlahor and Richards but it was actually that Fox had left. How has that made our season worse?

Didn't know he'd gone until R5 made the big reveal. Didn't live up to teaser.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on March 17, 2016, 05:41:44 PM
Cloned Agbonlahor absolute lol
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: Rudy65 on March 17, 2016, 05:42:11 PM
False narrative.

Not doubt the pay off will be 7 figures. Must be eye watering how much we have paid out the last few years
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 17, 2016, 05:45:30 PM
False narrative.

Not doubt the pay off will be 7 figures. Must be eye watering how much we have paid out the last few years

The last bit must make Hollis and King cry. And something that simply have to stop.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: Jimbo on March 17, 2016, 05:46:01 PM
Shouldn't the title of this thread be 'Tom Fox off'?
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on March 17, 2016, 05:47:15 PM
False narrative.

Not doubt the pay off will be 7 figures. Must be eye watering how much we have paid out the last few years

The last bit must make Hollis and King cry. And something that simply have to stop.

He resigned. Not sure how much we'll have to pay, if at all.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 17, 2016, 05:49:46 PM
False narrative.

Not doubt the pay off will be 7 figures. Must be eye watering how much we have paid out the last few years

The last bit must make Hollis and King cry. And something that simply have to stop.

He resigned. Not sure how much we'll have to pay, if at all.

You have to think there's got to be some agreed compensation to force/convince him to resign. Even if it isn't the full value of his remaining contract.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: class-of-82 on March 17, 2016, 05:51:54 PM
Let's hope his pay off is performance related
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on March 17, 2016, 05:52:34 PM
False narrative.

Not doubt the pay off will be 7 figures. Must be eye watering how much we have paid out the last few years

The last bit must make Hollis and King cry. And something that simply have to stop.

He resigned. Not sure how much we'll have to pay, if at all.

You have to think there's got to be some agreed compensation to force/convince him to resign. Even if it isn't the full value of his remaining contract.

He jumped before he was pushed is my guess. He's staying on for a few weeks to hand things over so will get paid but I think he can forget his bonus.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: Risso on March 17, 2016, 05:53:34 PM
He hasn't been there two years, so can therefore just be sacked without him being able to claim for unfair dismissal. No pay off other than notice period in contract.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: UK Redsox on March 17, 2016, 05:55:28 PM
He hasn't been there two years, so can therefore just be sacked without him being able to claim for unfair dismissal. No pay off other than notice period in contract.

Do we know that TF was a salaried permanent employee?

What if he was on a fixed-term contract?
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: joe_c on March 17, 2016, 05:55:41 PM
Presumably Paddy Riley is shifting in his seat uncomfortably now.

Ballyjamesduff is beckoning.

(One for the brethren on St Patrick's Day there.)
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 17, 2016, 05:56:56 PM
What odds Reilly is gone tomorrow?
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on March 17, 2016, 05:57:05 PM
2 down, now Reilly and Lerner to go. Then we can start on shifting some of the dross players and stewards. Keep up the anti-lerner banners after all he's ultimately responsible for everything that's currently wrong with AVFC. As for any Fox comments...fox off!!!
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: Rudy65 on March 17, 2016, 05:57:24 PM
False narrative.

Not doubt the pay off will be 7 figures. Must be eye watering how much we have paid out the last few years

The last bit must make Hollis and King cry. And something that simply have to stop.

He resigned. Not sure how much we'll have to pay, if at all.

You dont walk away from £1m plus annual contract wihtout some form of pay off. I think they call it a compromise agreement which always includes some £ in order that Fox will go, and go quietly
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: not3bad on March 17, 2016, 05:59:14 PM
What does the Fox say?

Don't matter no more cos he gone!!!
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: JUAN PABLO on March 17, 2016, 05:59:14 PM
What odds Reilly is gone tomorrow?

1/1000
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: Ger Regan on March 17, 2016, 05:59:38 PM
I wonder if he resigned in protest over the Almstadt dismissal?
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 17, 2016, 06:00:19 PM
False narrative.

Not doubt the pay off will be 7 figures. Must be eye watering how much we have paid out the last few years

The last bit must make Hollis and King cry. And something that simply have to stop.

He resigned. Not sure how much we'll have to pay, if at all.

You dont walk away from £1m plus annual contract wihtout some form of pay off. I think they call it a compromise agreement which always includes some £ in order that Fox will go, and go quietly

That's my take though accept I could be wrong. The fact that it has packaged so nicely, that he has resigned, he's being thanked for his efforts and that he will continue to be available in advisory capacity to help in the transition gives credence to some sort of settlement. At the end of the day he's been told his services are no longer required and he could have dug his heels in, but it's been handled very smoothly. At least on the surface it appears that way.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on March 17, 2016, 06:05:30 PM
At the end of the day no matter how much we have to pay him to leave it will be money well spent.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: in exile on March 17, 2016, 06:06:44 PM
Fuck him...too little too late.
I hope Paddy is gone by this time tomorrow
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 17, 2016, 06:07:27 PM
At the end of the day no matter how much we have to pay him to leave it will be money well spent.

Nobody will argue that point
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: Risso on March 17, 2016, 06:12:16 PM
He hasn't been there two years, so can therefore just be sacked without him being able to claim for unfair dismissal. No pay off other than notice period in contract.

Do we know that TF was a salaried permanent employee?

What if he was on a fixed-term contract?

It's unusual for directors to be on fixed term contracts.  They're not like players with a value to protect, or managers where you want to keep them out of the hands of other clubs.  I'd be surprised if he was anything other than a full time employee, and therefore hopefully not entitled to anything as a pay out.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: olaftab on March 17, 2016, 06:15:52 PM
At the end of the day no matter how much we have to pay him to leave it will be money well spent.

Nobody will argue that point
Oh oh hang I want to argue?
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: clash city rocker on March 17, 2016, 06:16:01 PM
At the end of the day he was a man out of his depth and out of his league. We are now out of our depth and in a few weeks time will be officially out of our league.  Sorry to see you go Mr Fox...well that's the PC way of saying it...but on a personal note...goodbye you   #$&^%÷×+&€£¥; $#**&=÷÷^€€ !
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: andyh on March 17, 2016, 06:17:46 PM
Just how many non-playing staff has the main buffoon appointed over the last xx years and ended up sacking?
Just how many fucking shite decisions has he been responsible for, overseen or endorsed.

The common denominator is the one I really look forward to seeing the back of.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 17, 2016, 06:19:00 PM
At the end of the day no matter how much we have to pay him to leave it will be money well spent.

Nobody will argue that point
Oh oh hang I want to argue?

You'd be like a lawyer defending a bloke up for murder who has been caught red handed by the cops just after he puts two bullets into his victim, claiming "it wasn't me".
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: TopDeck113 on March 17, 2016, 06:19:09 PM
Good riddance. 

I'm looking forward to the blood-letting in the dressing room next.  Whatever happens next season it won't be for the want of purging the massive great lumps of faeces that have had the club debilitated through constipation these last few years.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: cdbearsfan on March 17, 2016, 06:21:52 PM
At the end of the day no matter how much we have to pay him to leave it will be money well spent.

Nobody will argue that point
Oh oh hang I want to argue?

You'd be like a lawyer defending a bloke up for murder who has been caught red handed by the cops just after he puts two bullets into his victim, claiming "it wasn't me".

Hang on, Shaggy's killed someone?
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: Ian. on March 17, 2016, 06:22:17 PM
What odds Reilly is gone tomorrow?
Paddy Power will know 😄
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 17, 2016, 06:22:48 PM
At the end of the day no matter how much we have to pay him to leave it will be money well spent.

Nobody will argue that point
Oh oh hang I want to argue?

You'd be like a lawyer defending a bloke up for murder who has been caught red handed by the cops just after he puts two bullets into his victim, claiming "it wasn't me".

Hang on, Shaggy's killed someone?

Fox would have got away with it if it wasn't for those pesky fans.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: SirSteveUK on March 17, 2016, 06:23:56 PM
I can think of a banner
.

"I give Zero Fox !!!"
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: ez on March 17, 2016, 06:24:50 PM
Just Reilly and Keye to go now.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: CJ on March 17, 2016, 06:24:50 PM
Who we going to call a wanker at the Chelsea game now? There's always the bloke a couple of rows behind me but I don't know his name
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: Risso on March 17, 2016, 06:26:23 PM
Who we going to call a wanker at the Chelsea game now? There's always the bloke a couple of rows behind me but I don't know his name

Micah Richards?
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: Rudy65 on March 17, 2016, 06:28:02 PM
Who we going to call a wanker at the Chelsea game now? There's always the bloke a couple of rows behind me but I don't know his name

Micah Richards?

And repeat for the other 10
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: prmort on March 17, 2016, 06:30:04 PM
"Compete in the fa cup final at wembley".  What game was he watching ?  Cya 

Where the fox hat ...
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: Clampy on March 17, 2016, 06:34:14 PM
No surprise really, it was only a matter of time.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: Matt C on March 17, 2016, 06:34:15 PM
I'm sure he has decent commercial acumen but never a CEO, as results have shown.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on March 17, 2016, 06:34:27 PM
We hardly knew him.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: Clampy on March 17, 2016, 06:35:01 PM
Just Reilly and Keye to go now.

Why Nicky Keye or are you joshing?
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: PaulWinch again on March 17, 2016, 06:52:50 PM
Oh well at least we appear to be looking at our management issues, although I'll wait to see how the new board performs before getting carried away.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on March 17, 2016, 06:53:11 PM
Five Live reported before the sports bulletin that things have just got worse for Aston Villa. I was expecting the news to be that we had somehow cloned Agbonlahor and Richards but it was actually that Fox had left. How has that made our season worse?

Just shows how little attention the national media pay to our club and how little they understand our fans feelings.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: Richard E on March 17, 2016, 06:57:04 PM
At the end of the day no matter how much we have to pay him to leave it will be money well spent.

Nobody will argue that point
Oh oh hang I want to argue?

You'd be like a lawyer defending a bloke up for murder who has been caught red handed by the cops just after he puts two bullets into his victim, claiming "it wasn't me".

I'd get him off no trouble.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: sickbeggar on March 17, 2016, 07:02:49 PM
Just a scapegoat really. I can't imagine the policies he implemented that have gone so awry weren't instigated or at least rubber stamped by Lerner
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 17, 2016, 07:05:35 PM
At the end of the day no matter how much we have to pay him to leave it will be money well spent.

Nobody will argue that point
Oh oh hang I want to argue?

You'd be like a lawyer defending a bloke up for murder who has been caught red handed by the cops just after he puts two bullets into his victim, claiming "it wasn't me".

I'd get him off no trouble.

I hope you are talking from a legal context Richard and not something that you'd have planned for him involving a well used bar of soap.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: flybo on March 17, 2016, 07:06:04 PM
yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss :-)
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: curlytailavfc on March 17, 2016, 07:10:00 PM
wicked some real Fox hunting
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on March 17, 2016, 07:10:46 PM
This decision is mint.  The iceberg we are about to hit at least has a few less glaciers.  Tom really Polar-ised opinions.  No more Fox in the Executive Box. 
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: Comrade Blitz on March 17, 2016, 07:13:28 PM
This decision is mint.  The iceberg we are about to hit at least has a few less glaciers.  Tom really Polar-ised opinions.  No more Fox in the Executive Box. 

Lettuce celebrate indeed.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on March 17, 2016, 07:18:29 PM
Lots of action and change behind the scenes during March. A stark contrast with the total inactivity where it mattered in January.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: Richard E on March 17, 2016, 07:19:00 PM
At the end of the day no matter how much we have to pay him to leave it will be money well spent.

Nobody will argue that point
Oh oh hang I want to argue?

You'd be like a lawyer defending a bloke up for murder who has been caught red handed by the cops just after he puts two bullets into his victim, claiming "it wasn't me".

I'd get him off no trouble.

I hope you are talking from a legal context Richard and not something that you'd have planned for him involving a well used bar of soap.

Oo-er missus.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: TonyD on March 17, 2016, 08:28:20 PM
Its like a Spitting Image cabinet re shuffle. 
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: Duncan Shaw on March 17, 2016, 08:44:46 PM
I suspect he was effectively asked to drop to commercial director and didn't like it.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on March 17, 2016, 09:02:14 PM
Its like a Spitting Image cabinet re shuffle.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nGEBh7xybRc
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: SoccerHQ on March 17, 2016, 09:53:44 PM
At the end of the day no matter how much we have to pay him to leave it will be money well spent.

Until we see the accounts this time next year.

I just couldn't get over his salary tbh, we overpromoted him and then offered him one of the best CEO salaries in the league, bonkers.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: Keeno on March 17, 2016, 09:58:32 PM
Just Reilly and Keye to go now.

Why Nicky Keye or are you joshing?

I presume joshing - she obviously makes no footballing decisions and after having had personal contact with her on a number of occasions over issues with the club she has been nothing but helpful and polite.








Reilly, on the other hand, can fuck off.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: achilles on March 17, 2016, 10:02:25 PM
At the end of the day no matter how much we have to pay him to leave it will be money well spent.

Until we see the accounts this time next year.

I just couldn't get over his salary tbh, we overpromoted him and then offered him one of the best CEO salaries in the league, bonkers.

That is Aston Villa for you, certainly find novel ways to waste money!
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: garyshawsknee on March 17, 2016, 10:04:57 PM
At the end of the day no matter how much we have to pay him to leave it will be money well spent.

Until we see the accounts this time next year.

I just couldn't get over his salary tbh, we overpromoted him and then offered him one of the best CEO salaries in the league, bonkers.

That is Aston Villa for you, certainly find novel ways to waste money!

Bit like Brewsters Millions.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: itbrvilla on March 17, 2016, 10:25:17 PM
Good riddance you fucking chancer of a ******. Shove your kit deal up your arse you patronising prick.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: mallo on March 17, 2016, 10:58:30 PM
I haven't read a few pages so forgive me if I repeat old
Posts but that is the single worst resignation 'speech' I have seen from a senior football club executive. Poorly constructed, poorly reasoned and with a poor overriding sentiment. If I were to summarise I would say Tom Fox gladly accepted a post where his ego delivered and his executive turned like a polar opposite Midas, in that everything he touched turned not to gold, but instead to a steaming, rank pile of ....    However - who gave him the opportunity to make such a mess? Blame him all you like but he is but a puppet..
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: Chris_Jephcott on March 17, 2016, 11:00:27 PM
He's foxed off!
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: Pete3206 on March 17, 2016, 11:05:15 PM
I hate corny animal puns. For fox sake stop it!
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: Axl Rose on March 17, 2016, 11:26:04 PM
Good riddance.
Unfortunately it's too little, far too late.

This.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: passport1 on March 17, 2016, 11:28:02 PM
A number have already said it but I will reiterate the culprit still owns the club and is still capable of making equally idiotic appointments.

The words deckchairs and Titanic spring to mind.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: tomd2103 on March 17, 2016, 11:50:24 PM
Apologies if covered elsewhere, but I heard on the radio that Hollis is now Executive Chairman.  What exactly does that mean?
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: eamonn on March 18, 2016, 12:29:40 AM
A number have already said it but I will reiterate the culprit still owns the club and is still capable of making equally idiotic appointments.

The words deckchairs and Titanic spring to mind.

Except now he's employed smarter people to make smart appointments. Bernstein and Hollis should see that we now have more competent people in the right roles.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: mr underhill on March 18, 2016, 07:02:42 AM
We'd have been better off with Basil Brush
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: brian green on March 18, 2016, 07:23:30 AM
Boom Boom!
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: AV82EC on March 18, 2016, 08:18:20 AM
Apologies if covered elsewhere, but I heard on the radio that Hollis is now Executive Chairman.  What exactly does that mean?

In effect he's taken on Foxs CEO role. I think he was a non-exec Chairman before.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: rob_bridge on March 18, 2016, 08:22:25 AM
At the end of the day no matter how much we have to pay him to leave it will be money well spent.

Until we see the accounts this time next year.

I just couldn't get over his salary tbh, we overpromoted him and then offered him one of the best CEO salaries in the league, bonkers.

That is Aston Villa for you, certainly find novel ways to waste money!

We paid Alex McLeish money to work for us.
We paid Alex McLeish a lot of money to work for us.
We paid Alex McLeish former employer's a lot of money in order we could employ him.

It really is no surprise we have wasted other money
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: villasjf on March 18, 2016, 08:36:42 AM
Well I for one feel sorry for him.


Not really, good riddance to him. Seems pretty obvious he was massively out of his depth as a CEO. Hopefully the goon squad stewards won't act like wankers again now he's not dishing out the orders.
If its true the General is back the stewards will probably be replaced by the marines.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: TheTimVilla on March 18, 2016, 08:57:16 AM
At the end of the day no matter how much we have to pay him to leave it will be money well spent.

Until we see the accounts this time next year.

I just couldn't get over his salary tbh, we overpromoted him and then offered him one of the best CEO salaries in the league, bonkers.

That is Aston Villa for you, certainly find novel ways to waste money!

We paid Alex McLeish money to work for us.
We paid Alex McLeish a lot of money to work for us.
We paid Alex McLeish former employer's a lot of money in order we could employ him.

It really is no surprise we have wasted other money

We also paid Alex McLeish a lot of money to stop working for us.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: Des Little on March 18, 2016, 09:08:44 AM
Well I'm saddened.  I wanted to see this Under Armour kit that he waxed lyrical about.  Maybe that could have saved him?
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: ROBBO on March 18, 2016, 09:19:09 AM
Apart from being a snitch what other use does the once was a general have, he still knows FA about football.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: paul_e on March 18, 2016, 09:56:55 AM
Apart from being a snitch what other use does the once was a general have, he still knows FA about football.

Firstly this thread is about fox leaving and there's another one about the general so it seems strange to have put this in here.

Moving on, we don't really know what he brings as an executive board member (or what his responsibilities will even be) seeing as he's never been one before and he is a general, american military ranks are titles that you keep after you retire.  He knows FA about football but Bernstein knows lots and Little is an advisor who knows lots so maybe this will help us get the balance right, eventually.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: passport1 on March 18, 2016, 10:01:20 AM
A number have already said it but I will reiterate the culprit still owns the club and is still capable of making equally idiotic appointments.

The words deckchairs and Titanic spring to mind.

Except now he's employed smarter people to make smart appointments. Bernstein and Hollis should see that we now have more competent people in the right roles.

Well a bit like the manager has not signed a single player they have yet to make a single appointment. I'll wait to see how smart they are.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: paul_e on March 18, 2016, 10:07:48 AM
A number have already said it but I will reiterate the culprit still owns the club and is still capable of making equally idiotic appointments.

The words deckchairs and Titanic spring to mind.

Except now he's employed smarter people to make smart appointments. Bernstein and Hollis should see that we now have more competent people in the right roles.

Well a bit like the manager has not signed a single player they have yet to make a single appointment. I'll wait to see how smart they are.

Hollis has made 3 appointments including a club legend as an advisor to the board and the former chair of the FA as a member of the board, they'd both fall into the 'smart' category for me. That's not a guarantee that they're going to work but on paper and without hindsight you have to be pleased with them.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: mr underhill on March 18, 2016, 10:16:36 AM
I'm reserving my approval until these, and other appointment,s get us up back where we belong.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: paul_e on March 18, 2016, 10:23:10 AM
I'm reserving my approval until these, and other appointment,s get us up back where we belong.

This isn't aimed at you, just a comment for anyone thinking this way (myself included).

Which is fine so long as that works both ways and you give them a fair shot at achieving that.  My concern is that the posts on here slagging Hollis off over the lack of January spending when he'd been in post for about 2 weeks are indicative of the amount of time people will be given before they start getting shit.  Since then Hollis has done the right things in getting rid of 2 of the 3 people who are toxic to the fans, I suspect the 3rd name on that list is busy cleaning up his CV as well.  He's also appointed 2 people who look like good choices and a 3rd who may be contentious.  On balance he has credit for me right now but we now need to see if those choices turn out well.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: tomd2103 on March 18, 2016, 11:31:35 AM
Apologies if covered elsewhere, but I heard on the radio that Hollis is now Executive Chairman.  What exactly does that mean?

In effect he's taken on Foxs CEO role. I think he was a non-exec Chairman before.

I think we will see Reilly go and a single person appointed to oversee all sporting matters ('Sporting Director', 'Director of Football' or some such title).  Hopefully this time it will be someone with a wealth of experience and a good track record in such a role.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: mr underhill on March 18, 2016, 12:00:48 PM
thinking about it there was no difference between fox and Basil Brush - they were both puppets with someone's hand up their arse
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: Boz on March 18, 2016, 12:04:42 PM
I'm reserving my approval until these, and other appointment,s get us up back where we belong.

This isn't aimed at you, just a comment for anyone thinking this way (myself included).

Which is fine so long as that works both ways and you give them a fair shot at achieving that.  My concern is that the posts on here slagging Hollis off over the lack of January spending when he'd been in post for about 2 weeks are indicative of the amount of time people will be given before they start getting shit.  Since then Hollis has done the right things in getting rid of 2 of the 3 people who are toxic to the fans, I suspect the 3rd name on that list is busy cleaning up his CV as well.  He's also appointed 2 people who look like good choices and a 3rd who may be contentious.  On balance he has credit for me right now but we now need to see if those choices turn out well.

We've been mismanaged at Board level for so long, fans are understandably cynical, but I agree Hollis has started by bringing in the sort of people we needed once MON went. It might take some time, but hopefully, the new board and it's consultant will steer the club in the right direction and Lerner will make some funds available for next season for whoever the manager is and all the crap players we have in the dressing room are removed.

Let's hope the way is up when this season is over.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 18, 2016, 12:14:59 PM
thinking about it there was no difference between fox and Basil Brush - they were both puppets with someone's hand up their arse

Except he wasn't.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: tomd2103 on March 18, 2016, 01:10:24 PM
I'm reserving my approval until these, and other appointment,s get us up back where we belong.

This isn't aimed at you, just a comment for anyone thinking this way (myself included).

Which is fine so long as that works both ways and you give them a fair shot at achieving that.  My concern is that the posts on here slagging Hollis off over the lack of January spending when he'd been in post for about 2 weeks are indicative of the amount of time people will be given before they start getting shit.  Since then Hollis has done the right things in getting rid of 2 of the 3 people who are toxic to the fans, I suspect the 3rd name on that list is busy cleaning up his CV as well.  He's also appointed 2 people who look like good choices and a 3rd who may be contentious.  On balance he has credit for me right now but we now need to see if those choices turn out well.

We've been mismanaged at Board level for so long, fans are understandably cynical, but I agree Hollis has started by bringing in the sort of people we needed once MON went


They are the sort of people we needed when MON was at the club. 
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: pauliewalnuts on March 18, 2016, 02:01:36 PM
thinking about it there was no difference between fox and Basil Brush - they were both puppets with someone's hand up their arse

His entire shtick was based around the meaningless repetition of a slightly odd catch phrase to an audience of what he saw as easily pleased children.

Basil Brush was a bit like that, too.


 
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on March 18, 2016, 02:07:01 PM
For Boom Boom, read False Narrative.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: brian green on March 18, 2016, 02:08:48 PM
Basil Brush was very difficult to work with my television connections tell me.  I have no idea if that was the case with Tom Fox.  I do believe however that it was Sherwood who holed his boat.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: kipeye on March 18, 2016, 02:09:55 PM
Have to say I am disappointed as I thought he was the kind of appointment that was going to make a difference. I also thought that about Sherwood and coincidentally, after a promising start neither took too long to prove me wrong.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: SashasGrandad on March 18, 2016, 07:59:02 PM
thinking about it there was no difference between fox and Basil Brush - they were both puppets with someone's hand up their arse

Except he wasn't.

Arse was too tight
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: ronshirt on March 19, 2016, 12:55:39 PM
thinking about it there was no difference between fox and Basil Brush - they were both puppets with someone's hand up their arse

Except he wasn't.

Arse was too tight

And it was in the wrong place.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: Villa in Denmark on March 20, 2016, 01:30:49 PM
I'm reserving my approval until these, and other appointment,s get us up back where we belong.

This isn't aimed at you, just a comment for anyone thinking this way (myself included).

Which is fine so long as that works both ways and you give them a fair shot at achieving that.  My concern is that the posts on here slagging Hollis off over the lack of January spending when he'd been in post for about 2 weeks are indicative of the amount of time people will be given before they start getting shit.  Since then Hollis has done the right things in getting rid of 2 of the 3 people who are toxic to the fans, I suspect the 3rd name on that list is busy cleaning up his CV as well.  He's also appointed 2 people who look like good choices and a 3rd who may be contentious.  On balance he has credit for me right now but we now need to see if those choices turn out well.

We've been mismanaged at Board level for so long, fans are understandably cynical, but I agree Hollis has started by bringing in the sort of people we needed once MON went


They are the sort of people we needed when MON was at the club.

Is the correct answer. Problem is I think we tried 2 or 3 times and every time it ended up in me or him and every time Lerner chose O'Neill, until he chose Faulkner over O'Neill.

Nothing to back that up other than the alarming rate we went through CEO's under O'Neill, but because things looked reasonable on the pitch, it all went under the radar.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: passport1 on March 20, 2016, 03:12:46 PM
I love the way that supporters who have no idea of the inner workings of the club invent their own version of events.

Only one the internet.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: passport1 on March 20, 2016, 03:14:52 PM
On a seperate note look up Jeff Sterlings  take on the Hollis review of our season on Sky. Excellent.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: supertom on March 20, 2016, 04:46:05 PM
On a seperate note look up Jeff Sterlings  take on the Hollis review of our season on Sky. Excellent.
Saw that. Absolutely spot on. Depressingly so.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: Villa in Denmark on March 20, 2016, 07:01:29 PM
I love the way that supporters who have no idea of the inner workings of the club invent their own version of events.

Only one the internet.

If that one's aimed at me, the fact is that we went through 3 CEO's in the 4 years O'Neill was here. Fitzgerald, Cunnah and whoever Fitzgerald's predecessor was. That's an appalling rate of attrition that smacks of a power struggle behind the scenes, with one bloke who's a constant the obvious winner.

It's also well documented that O'Neill refuses to countenance anyone other than him having anything to do with or even questioning the management of any footballing matter.

It's also a fact that within a couple of months of Lerner parachuting in his own man, Faulkner, O'Neill was toast.

You join the dots.

I don't know the "inner workings of the club" but I do know what a power struggle between a control freak and someone who just wants to get on with the job looks like when they're both working for the same weak boss.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 20, 2016, 11:35:40 PM
I love the way that supporters who have no idea of the inner workings of the club invent their own version of events.

Only one the internet.

If that one's aimed at me, the fact is that we went through 3 CEO's in the 4 years O'Neill was here. Fitzgerald, Cunnah and whoever Fitzgerald's predecessor was. That's an appalling rate of attrition that smacks of a power struggle behind the scenes, with one bloke who's a constant the obvious winner.

It's also well documented that O'Neill refuses to countenance anyone other than him having anything to do with or even questioning the management of any footballing matter.

It's also a fact that within a couple of months of Lerner parachuting in his own man, Faulkner, O'Neill was toast.

You join the dots.

I don't know the "inner workings of the club" but I do know what a power struggle between a control freak and someone who just wants to get on with the job looks like when they're both working for the same weak boss.

There wasn't a CEO before Fitzgerald and I could be wrong, but I don't think Cunnah ever had the role.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: Villa in Denmark on March 21, 2016, 09:31:06 AM
My mistake then.  Memory not what it was apparently.

I was thinking of Langham as Fitzgerald's predecessor, but he was from the fag end of the Ellis era.
I was sure that Cunnah was reported as taking over from Fitzgerald, but it appears that he was COO acting as CEO, followed by Robin Russel as acting CEO for nearly 2 years before Faulkner stepped up from COO to CEO?

Either way it looks a mess. To go through so many exec's with a good chunk of the time covered by temporary appointments isn't a recipe for success.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 21, 2016, 04:46:20 PM
My mistake then.  Memory not what it was apparently.

I was thinking of Langham as Fitzgerald's predecessor, but he was from the fag end of the Ellis era.
I was sure that Cunnah was reported as taking over from Fitzgerald, but it appears that he was COO acting as CEO, followed by Robin Russel as acting CEO for nearly 2 years before Faulkner stepped up from COO to CEO?

Either way it looks a mess. To go through so many exec's with a good chunk of the time covered by temporary appointments isn't a recipe for success.

Robin Russell was only temporary CEO for the few weeks between Faulkner leaving and Fox arriving at the start of last season. Bruce Langham was appointed in 2004 and left in 2005 for family reasons, after which Doug was in sole charge for another year. Fitzgerald started when Randy took over in 2006 until March 2008, then Michael Cunnah who was COO but in reality CEO left a few weeks later. Faulkner then got the job until he resigned in 2014. That's five permanent, one acting and Cunnah, who was somewhere in between, in twelve years.   
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: pauliewalnuts on March 21, 2016, 09:20:59 PM
I've posted this more than once before, but a bloke I worked with for a while was on the board of 32 Red when they were our sponsors. As a result of that, he got into the club, his kids became (and still are) Villa fans.

He was also a close friend of FitzGerald, going back a long way.

He told me in no uncertain terms the reason FitzGerald left was entirely about an internal struggle with MON - basically that MON wasn't having it.
Title: Re: Fox is Gone
Post by: Steve67 on March 21, 2016, 09:35:11 PM
MON is an arsehole. I have it on good authority from the former Leicester Chairman, who I happened to work with a couple of years ago. Described as a real self centred tossa.
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