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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: dave.woodhall on March 06, 2016, 11:38:56 PM
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Make up your own.
http://thebirminghampress.com/2016/03/and-the-beat-goes-on/
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Totally agree with the last sentence. Spot on.
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Interesting perspective to retain Garde just because a number of the players don't want him there. While it is easier to get rid of the manager, it makes as much of not more sense to get rid of the specific players who are the cause of the issues. We can't let the ring leaders win because they have been winning for too long.
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Make up your own.
http://thebirminghampress.com/2016/03/and-the-beat-goes-on/
That's exactly the way I feel, that's why I suggested kicking Gabby out the door now don't let him near the squad, the club has to support Garde after shafting him in January but I am probably expecting too much from the bunch of incompetents we have running the club.
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Totally agree with the last sentence. Spot on.
Same here.
I don't think we have ever produced a more unpopular team.
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My recollection of 1986-87 is that we had a similar number of hammerings to this (though we still have 9 games to go so it could get worse) but we also won 7-8 league games and playing at Villa Park did not mean abject surrender back then. I think we could spiral even further in these remaining matches.
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The last sentence is possibly the most insightful and pithy comment to have been written about our situation in six years.
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My recollection of 1986-87 is that we had a similar number of hammerings to this (though we still have 9 games to go so it could get worse) but we also won 7-8 league games and playing at Villa Park did not mean abject surrender back then. I think we could spiral even further in these remaining matches.
I genuinely believe we may lose all remaining 9 matches
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So sad, Dave, and so right.
Well said, as always.
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My recollection of 1986-87 is that we had a similar number of hammerings to this (though we still have 9 games to go so it could get worse) but we also won 7-8 league games and playing at Villa Park did not mean abject surrender back then. I think we could spiral even further in these remaining matches.
Nine games seems a lifetime.
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Excellent Dave, I agree with others, that last sentence sums it up perfectly.
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Good article- what worries me is that this group of players cannot respond even to a new coach, Eric Black seems to have had a negative effect with results being worse since his arrival. There is, unless some evidence arises to the contrary, something or someone very, very damaging within the group.
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More than one MPG. We know who they are but the real problem is that the others are too cowardly to stand up to them.
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My recollection of 1986-87 is that we had a similar number of hammerings to this (though we still have 9 games to go so it could get worse) but we also won 7-8 league games and playing at Villa Park did not mean abject surrender back then. I think we could spiral even further in these remaining matches.
In 86/87 our home form was respectable I think it was won 7 drew 7 lost 7, I feel we are more than capable of losing the last 9 games.
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A sombre sad article Dave, spot on as always.
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I'd agree with that. It's time the club took a stand against this bunch of clowns.
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Totally agree with Dave and the other posters, particularly the last paragraph.
I'm old enough to remember the Clough debacle at Leeds when player power perhaps for the first time, removed a manager.
The so called players at B6 who it seems are behind a movement to remove Garde, need to think about the fans they are disrespecting and they are obviously oblivious to the fact that there are not many other clubs who would want them in their squad with the performances they've failed to put in this season. Some of them should never play at a professional level again because they have no professionalism in them.
Garde may have been the wrong man at this time, but he maintains his dignity and undergoes who knows what pressures from the dressing room. His team selections leave one wondering, but he doesn't have many options and I don't think throwing in youngsters in this situation is a solution.
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My recollection of 1986-87 is that we had a similar number of hammerings to this (though we still have 9 games to go so it could get worse) but we also won 7-8 league games and playing at Villa Park did not mean abject surrender back then. I think we could spiral even further in these remaining matches.
I genuinely believe we may lose all remaining 9 matches
I am in little doubt - Newcastle at home is the only one I can see us getting anything out of and will entirely depend on their predicament.
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I'm in agreement
Garde has done himself no favours in the last few weeks but that pales into insignificance compared to some of the players where the measure is years.
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In truth we can only speculate on the goings on at Villa Park and Bodymoor Heath- unless somebody has real evidence it is all conjecture about certain players being ring leaders of anarchy amongst the squad. Are any of the coaching staff involved? Is there a source of the worse kind of discontent we can only imagine? Or in reality is a case that confidence is at an all time low and the finger of blame is being pointed?
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Last sentence absolutely spot on. I basically just hate the players now.
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There is more than enough circumstantial evidence to know that there is a hard core of rebels in the dressing room. We all have our contacts.
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I wonder if chucking the kids in at the deep end might not be a bad idea now. I was worried that the fans might get on their backs and shatter their confidence but I reckon most fans would get behind the kids now, even though they're likely to do no better than those arseholes from the first team. Make the first team divas play reserve football from now until may and blood some kids. It would make me feel better knowing that we'd be giving someone a chance whilst punishing those who squandered their chances. I reckon the crowd might buy into this. Doubt Garde will try it though, he'll probably just carry on complaining about the players whilst still picking them
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There is more than enough circumstantial evidence to know that there is a hard core of rebels in the dressing room. We all have our contacts.
But there is also alot of filling in the blanks, scapegoating and people pushing forward opinions as fact. The worst thing at the moment for me is that from the outside I cant see a way of fixing it. We wont have enough money to build a new squad and the majority of the current squad are not going to be on anyones shopping list so (if true) the ringleaders/cliques/rebels will more than likely be there next year as well. We coud sack the manager and all the coaches and start again but this squad just isnt good enough. The owner cant/wont sell for a big loss so how do we turn it around?
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I wonder if chucking the kids in at the deep end might not be a bad idea now. I was worried that the fans might get on their backs and shatter their confidence but I reckon most fans would get behind the kids now, even though they're likely to do no better than those arseholes from the first team. Make the first team divas play reserve football from now until may and blood some kids. It would make me feel better knowing that we'd be giving someone a chance whilst punishing those who squandered their chances. I reckon the crowd might buy into this. Doubt Garde will try it though, he'll probably just carry on complaining about the players whilst still picking them
I've been thinking this for a while. We're fucked so I'd rather see a team out there who look as though they want to play. I don't think a Villa crowd will get on their backs.
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When I used to play football down the park when I was about 12, if you were playing shit, someone would come over and give you a dead leg or camel bite. It didn't improve your game but it made the rest of the team feel better.
I can't see why this wouldn't work with professional footballers.
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I wonder if chucking the kids in at the deep end might not be a bad idea now. I was worried that the fans might get on their backs and shatter their confidence but I reckon most fans would get behind the kids now, even though they're likely to do no better than those arseholes from the first team. Make the first team divas play reserve football from now until may and blood some kids. It would make me feel better knowing that we'd be giving someone a chance whilst punishing those who squandered their chances. I reckon the crowd might buy into this. Doubt Garde will try it though, he'll probably just carry on complaining about the players whilst still picking them
I've been thinking this for a while. We're fucked so I'd rather see a team out there who look as though they want to play. I don't think a Villa crowd will get on their backs.
Exactly. I mean, what's the worst thing that could happen? we've already suffered our heaviest home defeat in decades and been humiliated up and down the country every weekend since August. It really couldn't get worse.
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I wonder if chucking the kids in at the deep end might not be a bad idea now. I was worried that the fans might get on their backs and shatter their confidence but I reckon most fans would get behind the kids now, even though they're likely to do no better than those arseholes from the first team. Make the first team divas play reserve football from now until may and blood some kids. It would make me feel better knowing that we'd be giving someone a chance whilst punishing those who squandered their chances. I reckon the crowd might buy into this. Doubt Garde will try it though, he'll probably just carry on complaining about the players whilst still picking them
I've been thinking this for a while. We're fucked so I'd rather see a team out there who look as though they want to play. I don't think a Villa crowd will get on their backs.
What if they turn out to be worse than the team we have now?
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Good, blunt article Dave.
The last paragraph sums up pretty perfectly the plight of our great club just now.
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If we did play the kids, I guarantee we'd end up getting a ridiculous fine for not putting out our strongest side.
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I wonder if chucking the kids in at the deep end might not be a bad idea now. I was worried that the fans might get on their backs and shatter their confidence but I reckon most fans would get behind the kids now, even though they're likely to do no better than those arseholes from the first team. Make the first team divas play reserve football from now until may and blood some kids. It would make me feel better knowing that we'd be giving someone a chance whilst punishing those who squandered their chances. I reckon the crowd might buy into this. Doubt Garde will try it though, he'll probably just carry on complaining about the players whilst still picking them
I've been thinking this for a while. We're fucked so I'd rather see a team out there who look as though they want to play. I don't think a Villa crowd will get on their backs.
What if they turn out to be worse than the team we have now?
How could they be? I could accept being beaten by a team like City if the players had pulled their tripe out and run themselves into the ground. However, a lazier, slippier more half-arsed display I have rarely seen. I never want to see Micah Richards stinking the team out ever again. He's poison in the team, and the same goes for Agbonlahor. Pair of absolute detestable tosspots. Play the kids who will at least try 110%.
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Agree with that last bit completely. Player power is getting ridiculous now, we've seen it countless times where players churn out rubbish performances to force a managerial change and it would be great to see a club take a stance against it for once. Wait until the summer and somehow get rid of all the rotten apples.
Not a huge fan of Garde personally but at least he goes about his task with a bit of dignity. These cancerous bastards like Agbonlahor, Richards and Lescott should feel ashamed to pick up their salaries at the end of every passing month. We all know they're not bad players, they just can't be arsed for the fight.
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Danny Murphy was the latest one at it on 5Live, saying his friends at Villa doubted Garde and his methods, and openly questioned Garde as to the relevance of various training exercises they were doing. I wonder who from our lot he'd still be in contact with?
He then spewed the usual vomit about "need a manager with passion who understands the championship".
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I've just red Simon Bird's report on the Newcastle v Bournemouth match and realised that if you replaced the teams with Man City v Villa, you wouldn't notice the difference........His headline said it all......" Betrayed by £60K -A-Week Fraudsters and Shirkers"
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Danny Murphy was the latest one at it on 5Live, saying his friends at Villa doubted Garde and his methods, and openly questioned Garde as to the relevance of various training exercises they were doing. I wonder who from our lot he'd still be in contact with?
Probably the voices in his head.
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Yep.
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Compeltely agree with the last line but the sad reality is that most of these "players" have contracts until at least 2018 and I just can't see anyone wanting to take them. They know full well they'll get another manager who will cosy up to them in an attempt to get performances out of them.
Horrible to watch
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Danny Murphy was the latest one at it on 5Live, saying his friends at Villa doubted Garde and his methods, and openly questioned Garde as to the relevance of various training exercises they were doing. I wonder who from our lot he'd still be in contact with?
He then spewed the usual vomit about "need a manager with passion who understands the championship".
The sad thing about that first paragraph is replace Garde with Venglos and you could be saying exactly the same. 25 years and we haven't progressed.
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Danny Murphy was the latest one at it on 5Live, saying his friends at Villa doubted Garde and his methods, and openly questioned Garde as to the relevance of various training exercises they were doing. I wonder who from our lot he'd still be in contact with?
He then spewed the usual vomit about "need a manager with passion who understands the championship".
Solid analysis again by one the pundits. Maybe then we should follow the Newcastle model and appoint an English manager with Championship experience. They've done really well out of it.
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I wonder if chucking the kids in at the deep end might not be a bad idea now. I was worried that the fans might get on their backs and shatter their confidence but I reckon most fans would get behind the kids now, even though they're likely to do no better than those arseholes from the first team. Make the first team divas play reserve football from now until may and blood some kids. It would make me feel better knowing that we'd be giving someone a chance whilst punishing those who squandered their chances. I reckon the crowd might buy into this. Doubt Garde will try it though, he'll probably just carry on complaining about the players whilst still picking them
I've been thinking this for a while. We're fucked so I'd rather see a team out there who look as though they want to play. I don't think a Villa crowd will get on their backs.
What if they turn out to be worse than the team we have now?
Do you really think that they would take to the pitch and not try like our current mob?
Its not the results that are the worst thing about this team, its the complete ambivalence that they show.
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Danny Murphy was the latest one at it on 5Live, saying his friends at Villa doubted Garde and his methods, and openly questioned Garde as to the relevance of various training exercises they were doing. I wonder who from our lot he'd still be in contact with?
Probably the voices in his head.
Richardson and him were at Fulham together I guess. I still try to forget we ever employed him though
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I wonder if chucking the kids in at the deep end might not be a bad idea now. I was worried that the fans might get on their backs and shatter their confidence but I reckon most fans would get behind the kids now, even though they're likely to do no better than those arseholes from the first team. Make the first team divas play reserve football from now until may and blood some kids. It would make me feel better knowing that we'd be giving someone a chance whilst punishing those who squandered their chances. I reckon the crowd might buy into this. Doubt Garde will try it though, he'll probably just carry on complaining about the players whilst still picking them
I've been thinking this for a while. We're fucked so I'd rather see a team out there who look as though they want to play. I don't think a Villa crowd will get on their backs.
What if they turn out to be worse than the team we have now?
Do you really think that they would take to the pitch and not try like our current mob?
Its not the results that are the worst thing about this team, its the complete ambivalence that they show.
I agree, and at the Everton game the team was supported throughout. The stick is correctly being aimed at the board
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Like most I want rid of these fucking poor excuse for footballers and as men as they have completely given up but we have to realise that to shift them on they have to play until we are officially relegated (which will not be too long now) once that happens I then would blood as many youngsters as he is allowed to although by doing that he is identifying the worst culprits by omitting them. Spineless wankers the lot of them
When you look over recent weeks the gap has really not changed so if we had a modicum of fight or pride in us we could have really turned this around
It really is a tough call and the sooner its all over the better
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I think one thing in our favour is that we have mostly accepted the inevitable. Those last minute kick of the ball, goalkeeper in the area, final game of the season relegations must be even more unbearable than what we are going through.
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I've got to the point where I hope that Garde is replaced by a total and utter b*****d of a manager (Pearson?) just to teach the players a lesson.
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I've got to the point where I hope that Garde is replaced by a total and utter b*****d of a manager (Pearson?) just to teach the players a lesson.
It would not make the slightest bit of difference.
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I've got to the point where I hope that Garde is replaced by a total and utter b*****d of a manager (Pearson?) just to teach the players a lesson.
I would agree with that - just to fuck the players off
but I would like the decks cleared and Remy given some backing
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Has any manager ever been successfully brought in just to teach the players a lesson? That to me sounds like a recipe for disaster.
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Has any manager ever been successfully brought in just to teach the players a lesson? That to me sounds like a recipe for disaster.
We're in the midst of a disaster anyway.
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I think one thing in our favour is that we have mostly accepted the inevitable. Those last minute kick of the ball, goalkeeper in the area, final game of the season relegations must be even more unbearable than what we are going through.
A relatively normal nose said as much to me a few weeks ago having seen them go down on the final day in their last relegation seasons and it made some sense at the time but the abject nature of the performances since then have really pissed me off, particularly when you see how poor the sides directly above us have been and that a couple of wins to keep within sight of them might have been achievable with even minimal investment in January.
Also, there's a minor, understandable, arithmetic failure in the original article, it's a mere nine goals in the last three games but 15 over the last four.
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I wonder if chucking the kids in at the deep end might not be a bad idea now. I was worried that the fans might get on their backs and shatter their confidence but I reckon most fans would get behind the kids now, even though they're likely to do no better than those arseholes from the first team. Make the first team divas play reserve football from now until may and blood some kids. It would make me feel better knowing that we'd be giving someone a chance whilst punishing those who squandered their chances. I reckon the crowd might buy into this. Doubt Garde will try it though, he'll probably just carry on complaining about the players whilst still picking them
I've been thinking this for a while. We're fucked so I'd rather see a team out there who look as though they want to play. I don't think a Villa crowd will get on their backs.
What if they turn out to be worse than the team we have now?
How could they be? I could accept being beaten by a team like City if the players had pulled their tripe out and run themselves into the ground. However, a lazier, slippier more half-arsed display I have rarely seen. I never want to see Micah Richards stinking the team out ever again. He's poison in the team, and the same goes for Agbonlahor. Pair of absolute detestable tosspots. Play the kids who will at least try 110%.
How very dare you say something so scurrilous? Those are Proper Premier League Footballers on Proper Premier League Wages© you're talking about.
© Some poster or other.
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I've got to the point where I hope that Garde is replaced by a total and utter b*****d of a manager (Pearson?) just to teach the players a lesson.
If you want something like that, send them as tackle dummies for the various six nations squads. Gives them a right shitkicking and saves us from further besmirching the name of the club by associating us with that passive aggressive, psuedo intellectual cock socket.
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Danny Murphy was the latest one at it on 5Live, saying his friends at Villa doubted Garde and his methods, and openly questioned Garde as to the relevance of various training exercises they were doing. I wonder who from our lot he'd still be in contact with?
He then spewed the usual vomit about "need a manager with passion who understands the championship".
The sad thing about that first paragraph is replace Garde with Venglos and you could be saying exactly the same. 25 years and we haven't progressed.
It's so infuriating who are they to openly challenge his methods? They are the players, they should do what they're bloody told. They've been diabolical for years, maybe if they opened their minds a bit they might improve.
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Danny Murphy was the latest one at it on 5Live, saying his friends at Villa doubted Garde and his methods, and openly questioned Garde as to the relevance of various training exercises they were doing. I wonder who from our lot he'd still be in contact with?
He then spewed the usual vomit about "need a manager with passion who understands the championship".
The sad thing about that first paragraph is replace Garde with Venglos and you could be saying exactly the same. 25 years and we haven't progressed.
It's so infuriating who are they to openly challenge his methods? They are the players, they should do what they're bloody told. They've been diabolical for years, maybe if they opened their minds a bit they might improve.
From another perspective though, isn't it the manager's job to instil discipline? bang heads together?
Think Tony Pulis, bollock naked after a shower, headbutting James Beattie.
http://www.espnfc.co.uk/story/710211/naked-pulis-headbutted-beattie-report
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Perhaps we'll win 7 out of the last 9, and you can use "Press-tidigitation".
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Totally agree with the last sentence. Spot on.
roy keane told the players what he thought of them when he was here
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Regards player power,it certainly doesn't help that everything is seen as on a balance sheet.Take Gabby,how much would we have to pay in reality to remove him and his ilk from this squad?However on the balance sheet,they are assets,to be utilised or pennies made from.On a day to day basis his ilk are worth the grand total of diddly squat,but I wonder how Mr Hollis sees it.
SGT first major result for us was convincing Doug that certain members of the squad had no value,monetray or in a professional basis.Lerner has been majorly stung financially with us,and wants to maximise what he's able to and minimise his input.Hence,whomever is in charge come June is going to have to find a way to motivate this soulless bunch.With the stick,the big swashbuckling,playing to the galley dramatic moments or purely re-enforcing the financial benefits of being successful,we're going to need people of the correct ilk further up the food chain to stand a chance.As in life,it doesn't automatically mean we need the perfect fit,we need people whom are right for our circumstances and are able to get this bunch of ner-de-wells on the right path.Then we might see a little shoot of recovery
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I think one thing in our favour is that we have mostly accepted the inevitable. Those last minute kick of the ball, goalkeeper in the area, final game of the season relegations must be even more unbearable than what we are going through.
A relatively normal nose said as much to me a few weeks ago having seen them go down on the final day in their last relegation seasons and it made some sense at the time but the abject nature of the performances since then have really pissed me off, particularly when you see how poor the sides directly above us have been and that a couple of wins to keep within sight of them might have been achievable with even minimal investment in January.
Also, there's a minor, understandable, arithmetic failure in the original article, it's a mere nine goals in the last three games but 15 over the last four.
So there is. It's been corrected now and thank you.
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Danny Murphy was the latest one at it on 5Live, saying his friends at Villa doubted Garde and his methods, and openly questioned Garde as to the relevance of various training exercises they were doing. I wonder who from our lot he'd still be in contact with?
He then spewed the usual vomit about "need a manager with passion who understands the championship".
The sad thing about that first paragraph is replace Garde with Venglos and you could be saying exactly the same. 25 years and we haven't progressed.
We as a club or as a footballing nation? I think in Italy, learning tactics is a key part of the youth development. I can't imagine being able to explain to a lot of our players the theory behind a certain formation or training exercise.
Just stick it in the mixer and give 110%.
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If we did play the kids, I guarantee we'd end up getting a ridiculous fine for not putting out our strongest side.
There's not a court in the world that could prove that Leandro Bacuna is better at football than any other professional.
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Danny Murphy was the latest one at it on 5Live, saying his friends at Villa doubted Garde and his methods, and openly questioned Garde as to the relevance of various training exercises they were doing. I wonder who from our lot he'd still be in contact with?
He then spewed the usual vomit about "need a manager with passion who understands the championship".
The sad thing about that first paragraph is replace Garde with Venglos and you could be saying exactly the same. 25 years and we haven't progressed.
We as a club or as a footballing nation? I think in Italy, learning tactics is a key part of the youth development. I can't imagine being able to explain to a lot of our players the theory behind a certain formation or training exercise.
Just stick it in the mixer and give 110%.
I did mean the Villa but seeing the number of experts saying that our troubles are down to having a foreign manager it seems that it's alright for the clubs who play in Europe regularly to evolve but the rest of us should know our place, stick to the traditional methods and ignore the Continentals with their fancy foreign ways.
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Has any manager ever been successfully brought in just to teach the players a lesson? That to me sounds like a recipe for disaster.
We're in the midst of a disaster anyway.
And the very last thing we need is for it to get worse.
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I've got to the point where I hope that Garde is replaced by a total and utter b*****d of a manager (Pearson?) just to teach the players a lesson.
It would not make the slightest bit of difference.
Agree. If a player can't be arsed, it doesn't matter if you shout, threaten or whatever, he will just turn around and say "how much do you earn?"
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Nigel Press-on, perhaps?
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De-press-ion.
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It ssems very clear that the relationship between Garde and the players has broken down (indeed was one ever established?).
The City game was well and truly woeful and although the vast majority of us that travelled up North probably expected to see confusion and chaos, it is still, none the less still a surprise to see what new moves our players will drop into the proceedings.
It looks very sadly as if things will get worse.
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Spot on Dave.
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Fully agree about Garde. I hope he stays and is given the chance to boot out the arseholes and build his own squad.
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Fully agree about Garde. I hope he stays and is given the chance to boot out the arseholes and build his own squad.
Same here.
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When I used to play football down the park when I was about 12, if you were playing shit, someone would come over and give you a dead leg or camel bite. It didn't improve your game but it made the rest of the team feel better.
I can't see why this wouldn't work with professional footballers.
What's a camel bite?
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Anything it wants to.
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Fully agree about Garde. I hope he stays and is given the chance to boot out the arseholes and build his own squad.
Same here.
It's my hope too, but I've zero confidence that it will happen.
If they'd have let Houllier do it, or at least hired someone to replace of similar ilk, then we probably wouldn't be in half the shit we are now.
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When I used to play football down the park when I was about 12, if you were playing shit, someone would come over and give you a dead leg or camel bite. It didn't improve your game but it made the rest of the team feel better.
I can't see why this wouldn't work with professional footballers.
What's a camel bite?
http://tinyurl.com/gnpbngr
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When I used to play football down the park when I was about 12, if you were playing shit, someone would come over and give you a dead leg or camel bite. It didn't improve your game but it made the rest of the team feel better.
I can't see why this wouldn't work with professional footballers.
What's a camel bite?
http://tinyurl.com/gnpbngr
Bloody hell.
If the humpty fucker bit you in the crotch it would leave you with a camel toe where your tackle use to be and seriously blight your efficiency.
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When I used to play football down the park when I was about 12, if you were playing shit, someone would come over and give you a dead leg or camel bite. It didn't improve your game but it made the rest of the team feel better.
I can't see why this wouldn't work with professional footballers.
What's a camel bite?
http://tinyurl.com/gnpbngr
Ha, cheers.
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common denominator with villa's management appointments since randy has been in charge, personable chaps that are coming to the biggest club they'll ever manage , and I dare say on a reasonable salary (to start with) then get sacked and get a pay off.
this fits with the way the club is being run, (badly) until lerner actually leaves and we can assess the damage, there is no point in paying Remi off.
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Ha, cheers.
Sorry, couldn't resist!
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When I used to play football down the park when I was about 12, if you were playing shit, someone would come over and give you a dead leg or camel bite. It didn't improve your game but it made the rest of the team feel better.
I can't see why this wouldn't work with professional footballers.
What's a camel bite?
http://tinyurl.com/gnpbngr
Ha, cheers.
It was either that or the Spock death grip. Either way, you got your finger out.
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Alot of pleasure could be gained by keeping Garde just to make a point that player power has no place at Villa park, but it is never going to happen, like it or not the biggest asset at most clubs are it's players, not the manager, look at the influence that cock socket Terry has at Chelski.
Garde has made his stand by publicly slating certain professional ability and attitudes about the squad in the press, but he then does not help himself, I am sorry he may not be very good but give me Hutton at right back all day over Richards, then do not make it even harder by changing formation to 3 centre backs and have to accommodate him again.
Gabby up front please for gods sake, I am sure there is a kid within the club that will make a better effort than Gabby, he does not have to score as Gabby never does, could have played Sinclair up there on his own.
There is no need to put 5, 6 or 7 of the kids in all at once, but Lyden for Westwood,maybe one or two more and do not change the formation so you have to accommodate wankers like Richards and Gabby, it is not as if that has worked is it.
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When I used to play football down the park when I was about 12, if you were playing shit, someone would come over and give you a dead leg or camel bite. It didn't improve your game but it made the rest of the team feel better.
I can't see why this wouldn't work with professional footballers.
What's a camel bite?
Less interesting than a camel toe.
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common denominator with villa's management appointments since randy has been in charge, personable chaps that are coming to the biggest club they'll ever manage , and I dare say on a reasonable salary (to start with) then get sacked and get a pay off.
this fits with the way the club is being run, (badly) until lerner actually leaves and we can assess the damage, there is no point in paying Remi off.
The first three (if you include O'Neill) had managed bigger clubs than us and at least two of them weren't exactly personable.