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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: VillaSpen on February 20, 2016, 02:41:34 AM
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Apologies if there's a dedicated Lee Hendrie thread that this belongs in but I searched and couldn't find anything.
Anyway, I listened to Jimmy Bullard's podcast The Magic Sponge a few days ago and Lee Hendrie was the guest. As well as saying "to be fair" a few hundred times he had a couple of interesting/funny/eyebrow-raising stories to share. The ones about Stefan Postma had completely passed me by at the time and I can't say I'm too upset at not having heard them until now. What surprised me the most was how disrespectful he was when speaking about Sir Graham Taylor. The story of him Jlloyd Samuel, Gareth Barry, Peter Crouch and a few others playing up in a hotel just after SGT had taken over for the second time and how it led to Hendrie leaving the club was annoying to hear.
Am I the only one who had never heard some of these stories?
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Do tell.......
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Postma like to be pegged, allegedly. There was a video of it. Allegedly.
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Hendrie was at the villa til around 2006, wasn't he?
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Aye, I remember something about Postma, his missus playing Postma/ns knock and pushing a special delivery up his box?
Sorry, that's about as polite as I can be.........
PS. Just realised that could be half decent lyrics to a song. Where's me Telecaster?
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Hendrie was at the villa til around 2006, wasn't he?
Of course, you're right. I meant to put that he never played under SGT again.
The short version of the story was that Hendrie, Barry, Samuel, Crouch and one of Crouch's sidekicks were on the piss the day after a game at QPR (citation needed.) in a hotel restaurant playing some game called spoof and the loser had to walk around on all fours like a dog and piss on a random diner's table leg. Hendrie lost and ended up at the table of a Sun reporter who immediately rang Sir Graham. Hendrie called Taylor a "fucking turnip" on the show. If not approving of that sort of exploit makes you a turnip then I suppose most people would be turnips.
And apparently Postma was a big fan of the video he starrred in.
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As far as I know we never played QPR under SGTII. And Hendrie played loads while he was manager.
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I gave up reading the rest after seeing Bullards name. Now touting himself round as the perveyor of all things 'top lad banter'. Him and the orange pixie are well suited.
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Graham Taylor - widely respected throughout football, not least for his dignified behaviour post-England.
Lee Hendrie - "Isn't he that Villa player who used to get into trouble a lot? Didn't he try to kill himself when he was made bankrupt?"
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Postma like to be pegged, allegedly. There was a video of it. Allegedly.
Yes there is. So i've heard.
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The short version of the story was that Hendrie, Barry, Samuel, Crouch and one of Crouch's sidekicks were on the piss the day after a game at QPR (citation needed.) in a hotel restaurant playing some game called spoof and the loser had to walk around on all fours like a dog and piss on a random diner's table leg. Hendrie lost and ended up at the table of a Sun reporter who immediately rang Sir Graham.
If that story isn't anywhere between embellishment and a complete fabrication then what an utterly arseholish thing to do.
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The short version of the story was that Hendrie, Barry, Samuel, Crouch and one of Crouch's sidekicks were on the piss the day after a game at QPR (citation needed.) in a hotel restaurant playing some game called spoof and the loser had to walk around on all fours like a dog and piss on a random diner's table leg. Hendrie lost and ended up at the table of a Sun reporter who immediately rang Sir Graham.
If that story isn't anywhere between embellishment and a complete fabrication then what an utterly arseholish thing to do.
It's disgusting. Even if it is made up.
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I despair. He's 38 and apart from the fact you'd expect a man of that age to think twice about telling that story, the very least you'd hope is he'd realise what a twat he was when younger. Still looks like a 10 year old and appears to have the mental age as well
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The podcast is typical "lad" rubbish but the guests and Bullard often fall into that playground mentality of having to outdo one another with increasingly outrageous stories and it can be interesting.
Lee Hendrie amazed me by managing to seem like a bigger bell-end than I thought he was.
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I call bullshit as having double checked, we never played QPR while SGTII was manager and in 02/03 (the full season under SGTII) Hendrie played in 27 league games.
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I call bullshit as having double checked, we never played QPR while SGTII was manager and in 02/03 (the full season under SGTII) Hendrie played in 27 league games.
We played at Loftus Road.
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I call bullshit as having double checked, we never played QPR while SGTII was manager and in 02/03 (the full season under SGTII) Hendrie played in 27 league games.
We played at Loftus Road.
Lost to Fulham I think?
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Forgot they went there, we lost 2-1. Hendrie started 5 of the next 6 league games.
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If it was bullshit, quite apt coming out on a programme hosted by the so witty Jimmy "cheeky chappy" Bullard, total arse
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I call bullshit as having double checked, we never played QPR while SGTII was manager and in 02/03 (the full season under SGTII) Hendrie played in 27 league games.
We played at Loftus Road.
Lost to Fulham I think?
I was there, that useless twat Jon Harley scored a 45 yard screamer.
As someone that often defends Hendrie he can roundly fuck off in this case.
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Yeah, I'm a big fan of Lee Hendrie. disappointed if this is as it sounds.
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If memory serves, and without checking, wasn't Fulham away at Loftus Road the game or two before the infamous "Cnut night"?
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Yep, we lost 3-0 at Charlton between the Fulham and sha games.
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Fulham was one of those games we often see - poor start to the season, pick up a bit of form, think we've cracked it then an unexpected setback and everything falls apart.
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I seem to recall Hendrie being one of our better players that season. At least for a few purple patches. You rarely got consistency from him.
I think if he did indeed say all that on Bullards show, it's probably a case, like all of those kind of ladz bantz programmes, of people being overly snarky to fit in with the rest. It's that man-child, school playground mentality and probably exaggerating for effect. It's the lowest form of "entertainment" devoid of any wit. But there's always that corner in the pub, on a friday night of rowdy 20 somethings finding everything thoroughly amusing, and with about 3 brain cells between them who find that shit funny. Hendrie, and Bullard and probably 90% of English footballers would be in those groups on a saturday had they not made it in the game.
It's not worth getting annoyed about. Hendrie will never grow up, but he's not the first, nor will he be the last, top flight footballer who is a bellend.
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Graham Taylor - widely respected throughout football, not least for his dignified behaviour post-England.
Lee Hendrie - "Isn't he that Villa player who used to get into trouble a lot? Didn't he try to kill himself when he was made bankrupt?"
The orange bloke?
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Did Lee get sent off on his debut at QPR? Christmas 96? Anyone remember the score?
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Did Lee get sent off on his debut at QPR? Christmas 96? Anyone remember the score?
Lost 1-0, iirc Spink came off the bench and had to play up front at the end.
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Did Lee get sent off on his debut at QPR? Christmas 96? Anyone remember the score?
Lost 1-0, iirc Spink came off the bench and had to play up front at the end.
23/12/95. Hendrie came off the bench and got a straight red. Ray Wilkins was playing for QPR and was trying to get the ref to let him him stay on.
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Did Lee get sent off on his debut at QPR? Christmas 96? Anyone remember the score?
Lost 1-0, iirc Spink came off the bench and had to play up front at the end.
23/12/95. Hendrie came off the bench and got a straight red. Ray Wilkins was playing for QPR and was trying to get the ref to let him him stay on.
I was about to say the very same. I drove back from Paris overnight for this game as we were coming home for Xmas and it was mighty frustrating - Ludo Miklosko had one of those games where he stopped everything we threw at him. Wilkins did indeed act like a sportsman too.
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Did Lee get sent off on his debut at QPR? Christmas 96? Anyone remember the score?
Lost 1-0, iirc Spink came off the bench and had to play up front at the end.
23/12/95. Hendrie came off the bench and got a straight red. Ray Wilkins was playing for QPR and was trying to get the ref to let him him stay on.
He didn't get a straight red. His first booking was for kicking the ball away after a foul.
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Did Lee get sent off on his debut at QPR? Christmas 96? Anyone remember the score?
Lost 1-0, iirc Spink came off the bench and had to play up front at the end.
23/12/95. Hendrie came off the bench and got a straight red. Ray Wilkins was playing for QPR and was trying to get the ref to let him him stay on.
I was about to say the very same. I drove back from Paris overnight for this game as we were coming home for Xmas and it was mighty frustrating - Ludo Miklosko had one of those games where he stopped everything we threw at him. Wilkins did indeed act like a sportsman too.
I recall their keeper who the game of his life was Jurgen Sommer, not Miklosko. Sommer had been terrible in the weeks beforehand, so we drove down fully expecting a massive away win.
I might be wrong, but when Spink came on up front late on, was it his last appearance in a Villa shirt? He certainly filled it.
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Looking it up, yep it was his last appearance. Some going for a keeper, second appearance for a club is a European Cup Final and their last for the same club more than a decade later is as a striker.
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Looking it up, yep it was his last appearance. Some going for a keeper, second appearance for a club is a European Cup Final and their last for the same club more than a decade later is as a striker.
Great quiz question.
Saw Nigel being interviewed by Woodward recently who seemed to make a point of telling him that he was looking well. Has Spink been seriously ill in recent years?
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Lee Hendrie is a bit of a twat, let's be honest.
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I can imagine that podcast being accompanied by lots of fist bumps* and people saying 'Boom'.
*Not Stefan Postma.
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Lee Hendrie is a bit of a twat, let's be honest.
Have you met him?
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Well worth a listen! Brilliant, some of the stories he tells about team mates
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Double post
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Lee Hendrie is a bit of a twat, let's be honest.
Have you met him?
Yes.
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Petulant little shit with terrible attitude. Couldn't stand him, still can't. The fact he is often rolled out to the faithful as a Villa Park Legend infuriates me no end.
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Petulant little shit with terrible attitude. Couldn't stand him, still can't. The fact he is often rolled out to the faithful as a Villa Park Legend infuriates me no end.
That's a bit OTT, he was never that bad. I thought he was a decent player. Could and should have done better in his career, but didn't he play over 300 league games for Villa? Not a bad record I must say.
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Petulant little shit with terrible attitude. Couldn't stand him, still can't. The fact he is often rolled out to the faithful as a Villa Park Legend infuriates me no end.
That's a bit OTT, he was never that bad. I thought he was a decent player. Could and should have done better in his career, but didn't he play over 300 league games for Villa? Not a bad record I must say.
Not OTT at all as far as I'm concerned. Of all the Villa players I've seen, he's up there easily on his own as the one I dislike most. He's my Steve Hodge.
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Petulant little shit with terrible attitude. Couldn't stand him, still can't. The fact he is often rolled out to the faithful as a Villa Park Legend infuriates me no end.
That's a bit OTT, he was never that bad. I thought he was a decent player. Could and should have done better in his career, but didn't he play over 300 league games for Villa? Not a bad record I must say.
You must be well impressed with Ashley Westwood and his 120 or so, then.
*wink*
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Petulant little shit with terrible attitude. Couldn't stand him, still can't. The fact he is often rolled out to the faithful as a Villa Park Legend infuriates me no end.
That's a bit OTT, he was never that bad. I thought he was a decent player. Could and should have done better in his career, but didn't he play over 300 league games for Villa? Not a bad record I must say.
Not OTT at all as far as I'm concerned. Of all the Villa players I've seen, he's up there easily on his own as the one I dislike most. He's my Steve Hodge.
Steve Hodge is my Steve Hodge. I don't remember Hendrie shitting in the club like the former did. He was a good player, and I couldn't give a shite what he did outside of the club.
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Petulant little shit with terrible attitude. Couldn't stand him, still can't. The fact he is often rolled out to the faithful as a Villa Park Legend infuriates me no end.
That's a bit OTT, he was never that bad. I thought he was a decent player. Could and should have done better in his career, but didn't he play over 300 league games for Villa? Not a bad record I must say.
You must be well impressed with Ashley Westwood and his 120 or so, then.
*wink*
Yeah you got me there!
Westwood isn't fit to lace Hendrie's boots as a player though, there's the difference.
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I've tried but I can't listen to that shit.
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I've always thought Bullard is a tool, so no chance i'll listen to it. This from a couple of days ago in The Guardian just added to what I think of him.
The former Hull City midfielder Jimmy Bullard says the club “changed his life” by paying him up to an extra £15,000 a week by mistake.
Bullard joined Hull on a four-and-a-half year deal from Fulham for a £5m in January 2009 when both teams were in the Premier League.
Bullard was quoted in British newspapers on Friday recalling that when the time came to sign his contract he found he would be paid £55,000 a week, rather than the £40,000 agreed.
“I saw on the paperwork it said £50,00 so I’ve passed it under the table to my agent and my agent’s gone: ‘Yeah, that’s a misprint, sign it,’” the 37-year-old said.
“As I signed it I blew it [the ink] dry and then I read under it as well, another £5,000 or £6,000 in appearance [money]. I’m celebrating to this day. Thank you Hull City for changing my life. I’m dropping cash everywhere, I’m bleeding cash.”
The club was not immediately available to comment. Bullard made a total of 289 league appearances in a 13-year career that also featured spells with West Ham United, Ipswich Town, Wigan Athletic, Peterborough United and Milton Keynes Dons.
He played 18 league games for Hull, who are top of the Championship and hoping to win promotion back to the Premier League this season, before joining Ipswich in August 2011.
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He just comes across as a a wanker of the highest order and that just adds to that theory. One of those people who is unmanageable and got away with it for most of his career at smaller clubs simply down to his talent. But I can imagine that it stopped him getting bigger moves that his ability alone at its peak probably warranted.
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I lost interest when he started joking (along with Bullard et al) about drink driving. Tosser.
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Fairly horrible listen and yeah, as someone who defended him more than most, Hendrie comes across as bad as his detractors always say. As for that being the reason for him not playing again under Graham Taylor, didn't he also tell GT that he was ''too tired'' to be selected for the team?
Rich, not terribly intelligent lads in their 20's you could expect it almost, the fact that they're approaching 40 and sniggering about it, in the name of "podcast footy bantz!" is a bit much.
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As for that being the reason for him not playing again under Graham Taylor, didn't he also tell GT that he was ''too tired'' to be selected for the team?
Yes, it was for a game at Man United if I remember correctly. Sir Graham supposedly told him he should never give up his own place in the team.
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Petulant little shit with terrible attitude. Couldn't stand him, still can't. The fact he is often rolled out to the faithful as a Villa Park Legend infuriates me no end.
That's a bit OTT, he was never that bad. I thought he was a decent player. Could and should have done better in his career, but didn't he play over 300 league games for Villa? Not a bad record I must say.
I agree with Leighton. I met Hendrie a couple of times in bars up town in the 90s as the bird I was with at the time knew him, and he came across as a right bellend.
I also happened to be close enough to the front row during that pre season friendly at Walsall to witness him telling our fans to suck his cock whilst grabbing his nether regions. I don't forget things like that.
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What an awful podcast.
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Petulant little shit with terrible attitude. Couldn't stand him, still can't. The fact he is often rolled out to the faithful as a Villa Park Legend infuriates me no end.
That's a bit OTT, he was never that bad. I thought he was a decent player. Could and should have done better in his career, but didn't he play over 300 league games for Villa? Not a bad record I must say.
I agree with Leighton. I met Hendrie a couple of times in bars up town in the 90s as the bird I was with at the time knew him, and he came across as a right bellend.
I also happened to be close enough to the front row during that pre season friendly at Walsall to witness him telling our fans to suck his cock whilst grabbing his nether regions. I don't forget things like that.
You'll have the mods crying 'fowl' if you call the ladies that again.
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He just comes across as a a wanker of the highest order and that just adds to that theory. One of those people who is unmanageable and got away with it for most of his career at smaller clubs simply down to his talent. But I can imagine that it stopped him getting bigger moves that his ability alone at its peak probably warranted.
1 England cap?
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He just comes across as a a wanker of the highest order and that just adds to that theory. One of those people who is unmanageable and got away with it for most of his career at smaller clubs simply down to his talent. But I can imagine that it stopped him getting bigger moves that his ability alone at its peak probably warranted.
1 England cap?
He means Brylcream Bullard.
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Hendrie had good spells of form (remember that 6 game period one season when he scored 3-4 goals from 30 yards all in one month?) But they were good spells of form rather than good seasons of form (and usually around contract renewal time).
He was also a player who'd have thrived more in a 4-2-3-1 than the 4-4-2 around when he was at his peak. I always thought he was too lightweight to play centrally in a two, he'd have done well in the role someone like Kevin Nolan played, just off the main forward and coming onto second balls.
I always compare Hendrie to Barry really as both broke through within a year of each other into the villa team.
One is still playing regularly in the premier league at 35 and only stopped getting called up for England two years ago. Hendrie had 1 England cup and last played a premier league game at 29.
Not like one is a clogger and one is technically brilliant either as Hendrie was as good on the ball as Barry I think, it's not exactly Messi and Gestede difference if there was one.
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I call bullshit as having double checked, we never played QPR while SGTII was manager and in 02/03 (the full season under SGTII) Hendrie played in 27 league games.
Can only assume he meant Fulham as they played at Loftus Road for two seasons while Craven Cottage got rebuilt around that time.