He's having lots of success at Blackburn ;D
Not only would they not let him resign, they also forced him to sign a new four-year contract. Whatever Paul.
The Wilfried Bony one is true, he was strongly linked with us when Benteke was sent to leave the first time round, before Swansea ended up getting him.
Aubemayang was already at Dortmund in 2014 I think.
Lukaku I find hard to believe.
What we have here is start of the unseemly sight of all those responsible for the decline leading to the impending relegation abdicating any share of the blame and pointing the finger elsewhere. Expect more to come. Sure, Lerner is ultimately the chief culprit, but Lambert is being very selective here. If he had any integrity he would have packed his bags after the 15-0 Christmas or the Bradford semi.Everyone will have their say except our owner silent Bob. I'm looking forward to him selling,I think then and only then will MON break radio silence, that will be fun...
Going down this season will be music to the ears of Sherwood, Lambert and McLeish. History will forget the relentless decline in squad quality that got us here.
Going down this season will be music to the ears of Sherwood, Lambert and McLeish. History will forget the relentless decline in squad quality that got us here.
It's incredible how absolutely everything can be spun in several ways. We all know that those three should be taking their fair share of blame for what's coming in May. They will all use what's coming in May to demonstrate how brilliant they were to keep us up.
Ah, Mr Lambert. The man who thought Jordan Bowery was a premiership squad player. Enough said.
Not only would they not let him resign, they also forced him to sign a new four-year contract. Whatever Paul.
Ah, Mr Lambert. The man who thought Jordan Bowery was a premiership squad player. Enough said.
I thought he had his say a couple of weeks ago.
He obviously felt the need to 'go again'.
Not only would they not let him resign, they also forced him to sign a new four-year contract. Whatever Paul.
Very true, or did they promise him money to spend if he signed, then renaged on their side?
It's happened to Remi, so why not before.
It's getting a bit embarrassing isn't it? He was undoubtedly working under a certain degree of duress, financially, but that had nothing to do with his complete lack of tactical nous or coaching ability, or his inability to keep a structured back-room staff in place.
If I'd had any involvement with Villa, apart from being a fan, over the last five years I'd be keeping my head down and my fuckin' mouth shut.
what colour is the sky in your world Paul?
If I'd had any involvement with Villa, apart from being a fan, over the last five years I'd be keeping my head down and my fuckin' mouth shut.
This.
One of the very very few positive things I can say about MON is he kept his trap shut for years after leaving us.
If I'd had any involvement with Villa, apart from being a fan, over the last five years I'd be keeping my head down and my fuckin' mouth shut.
I have lot of respect now for McLeish. He has conducted himself with dignity and nobility since leaving us.If I'd had any involvement with Villa, apart from being a fan, over the last five years I'd be keeping my head down and my fuckin' mouth shut.
This.
One of the very very few positive things I can say about MON is he kept his trap shut for years after leaving us.
He was probably legally obliged to.
wow! Any 3 of them would certainly of filled the void left by Benteke.
Why not come out with this sooner? Fair play to the man!
So, from the end of the second season to when he finally left, he was working under duress?
He really didn't want to be here but couldn't escape?
But, he still signed a new contract a year later?
I know he is trying to cover his arse, but I can still smell bullshit.
Perhaps we should try avoid sinking to that level and put his tenure and commentary behind us.
Does anybody really care still what he thinks.
Time to move on. More pressing matters at hand.
He should have been sacked immediately after relegation had been staved off in 2014. No ifs no buts. After the Chelsea win we nosedived.
It was the second such run of form we encountered under him. It was no surprise to any of use we had a 3rd in the autumn.
Total wasted opportunity. The only reason he stayed was because the inpet board were too frightened of making duff (inappropriate) appointment number 4 on their watch, which they duly managed in their own inimitable manner.
He should have been sacked after we got beaten by Milwall during the nightmare run in his first season.
Seeing as Blackburn achieved their first win in ten games the other night ,you'd think he had enough on his plate to worry about,rather than what happened at a previous club
There was quite a bit of talk about Lukaku at some stage.
And his mate on SSN Charlie Nicholas said he wanted Lukaku and Holtby -both available on loans- but the board wouldn't sanction it.
On the day we signed Benteke, we had been in advanced talks with Bony's Dutch club at the time to sign him, so he seemed to have a reasonable eye for forwards.
In his defence, I will say it's right that that is the calibre of player we should have been aiming at, so I understand his frustration. But he probably could have been sacked on at least five different occasions during his time with us, so swings and roundabouts.
The Mumbler is on Five Live now, and for the next hour or so.
Not only would they not let him resign, they also forced him to sign a new four-year contract. Whatever Paul.
Absolutely , he is unbelievable >:(
No fan of lambert but seeing Lerner seemed to have screwed every manager since MON, I tend to believe his version. He did a shit job but given what he was asked to do its not surprising. Yeah he took the job but there's not many managers who haven't got an inflated opinion of their abilities otherwise they wouldn't be managers, and yeah he toed the official line and didn't complain at the time but so did all the rest, and so is Garde, for now. You can have a go at him for keeping quiet when employed by us but i can't see the problem with him speaking out now. As a shite manager he's obviously trying to justify his failure but even if he'd been half competant he'd never have done owt with that Villa set-up - one of the reasons I'm not that bothered about Garde limping on as lame-duck manager is because the reincarnation of ron saunders couldn't build a successful team with these cowboys at the helm
No fan of lambert but seeing Lerner seemed to have screwed every manager since MON, I tend to believe his version. He did a shit job but given what he was asked to do its not surprising. Yeah he took the job but there's not many managers who haven't got an inflated opinion of their abilities otherwise they wouldn't be managers, and yeah he toed the official line and didn't complain at the time but so did all the rest, and so is Garde, for now. You can have a go at him for keeping quiet when employed by us but i can't see the problem with him speaking out now. As a shite manager he's obviously trying to justify his failure but even if he'd been half competant he'd never have done owt with that Villa set-up - one of the reasons I'm not that bothered about Garde limping on as lame-duck manager is because the reincarnation of ron saunders couldn't build a successful team with these cowboys at the helmAnd as for cowboys running our club. I'd like to propose that as a massive pisstake aimed at the American fuckwitted cowboys running our club, that the end of season fancy dress should be held at the last home game and every Villa fan come dressed up as a cowboy. Yeeeha!
The tried to resign bit is misleading,
what he wanted was to walk away fully paid up and Lerner said no, he could have walked as no one can stop you but he would have left with no pay up
Again it's all about money not integrity
No fan of lambert but seeing Lerner seemed to have screwed every manager since MON, I tend to believe his version. He did a shit job but given what he was asked to do its not surprising. Yeah he took the job but there's not many managers who haven't got an inflated opinion of their abilities otherwise they wouldn't be managers, and yeah he toed the official line and didn't complain at the time but so did all the rest, and so is Garde, for now. You can have a go at him for keeping quiet when employed by us but i can't see the problem with him speaking out now. As a shite manager he's obviously trying to justify his failure but even if he'd been half competant he'd never have done owt with that Villa set-up - one of the reasons I'm not that bothered about Garde limping on as lame-duck manager is because the reincarnation of ron saunders couldn't build a successful team with these cowboys at the helmAnd as for cowboys running our club. I'd like to propose that as a massive pisstake aimed at the American fuckwitted cowboys running our club, that the end of season fancy dress should be held at the last home game and every Villa fan come dressed up as a cowboy. Yeeeha!
I imagine it'd be pornographer/pornographer or fat bastard, in that order.No fan of lambert but seeing Lerner seemed to have screwed every manager since MON, I tend to believe his version. He did a shit job but given what he was asked to do its not surprising. Yeah he took the job but there's not many managers who haven't got an inflated opinion of their abilities otherwise they wouldn't be managers, and yeah he toed the official line and didn't complain at the time but so did all the rest, and so is Garde, for now. You can have a go at him for keeping quiet when employed by us but i can't see the problem with him speaking out now. As a shite manager he's obviously trying to justify his failure but even if he'd been half competant he'd never have done owt with that Villa set-up - one of the reasons I'm not that bothered about Garde limping on as lame-duck manager is because the reincarnation of ron saunders couldn't build a successful team with these cowboys at the helmAnd as for cowboys running our club. I'd like to propose that as a massive pisstake aimed at the American fuckwitted cowboys running our club, that the end of season fancy dress should be held at the last home game and every Villa fan come dressed up as a cowboy. Yeeeha!
if Gold/Sullivan or Mike Ashley was in charge of our club would you call them English fuckwits?
I imagine it'd be pornographer/pornographer or fat bastard, in that order.No fan of lambert but seeing Lerner seemed to have screwed every manager since MON, I tend to believe his version. He did a shit job but given what he was asked to do its not surprising. Yeah he took the job but there's not many managers who haven't got an inflated opinion of their abilities otherwise they wouldn't be managers, and yeah he toed the official line and didn't complain at the time but so did all the rest, and so is Garde, for now. You can have a go at him for keeping quiet when employed by us but i can't see the problem with him speaking out now. As a shite manager he's obviously trying to justify his failure but even if he'd been half competant he'd never have done owt with that Villa set-up - one of the reasons I'm not that bothered about Garde limping on as lame-duck manager is because the reincarnation of ron saunders couldn't build a successful team with these cowboys at the helmAnd as for cowboys running our club. I'd like to propose that as a massive pisstake aimed at the American fuckwitted cowboys running our club, that the end of season fancy dress should be held at the last home game and every Villa fan come dressed up as a cowboy. Yeeeha!
if Gold/Sullivan or Mike Ashley was in charge of our club would you call them English fuckwits?
Being American sets them apart from most people in here and so is probably why it is used in a negative manner.
Who said I'm excusing anything?I imagine it'd be pornographer/pornographer or fat bastard, in that order.No fan of lambert but seeing Lerner seemed to have screwed every manager since MON, I tend to believe his version. He did a shit job but given what he was asked to do its not surprising. Yeah he took the job but there's not many managers who haven't got an inflated opinion of their abilities otherwise they wouldn't be managers, and yeah he toed the official line and didn't complain at the time but so did all the rest, and so is Garde, for now. You can have a go at him for keeping quiet when employed by us but i can't see the problem with him speaking out now. As a shite manager he's obviously trying to justify his failure but even if he'd been half competant he'd never have done owt with that Villa set-up - one of the reasons I'm not that bothered about Garde limping on as lame-duck manager is because the reincarnation of ron saunders couldn't build a successful team with these cowboys at the helmAnd as for cowboys running our club. I'd like to propose that as a massive pisstake aimed at the American fuckwitted cowboys running our club, that the end of season fancy dress should be held at the last home game and every Villa fan come dressed up as a cowboy. Yeeeha!
if Gold/Sullivan or Mike Ashley was in charge of our club would you call them English fuckwits?
Being American sets them apart from most people in here and so is probably why it is used in a negative manner.
Being black or Asian would as well. Would you excuse casual racism of that sort?
Who said I'm excusing anything?I imagine it'd be pornographer/pornographer or fat bastard, in that order.No fan of lambert but seeing Lerner seemed to have screwed every manager since MON, I tend to believe his version. He did a shit job but given what he was asked to do its not surprising. Yeah he took the job but there's not many managers who haven't got an inflated opinion of their abilities otherwise they wouldn't be managers, and yeah he toed the official line and didn't complain at the time but so did all the rest, and so is Garde, for now. You can have a go at him for keeping quiet when employed by us but i can't see the problem with him speaking out now. As a shite manager he's obviously trying to justify his failure but even if he'd been half competant he'd never have done owt with that Villa set-up - one of the reasons I'm not that bothered about Garde limping on as lame-duck manager is because the reincarnation of ron saunders couldn't build a successful team with these cowboys at the helmAnd as for cowboys running our club. I'd like to propose that as a massive pisstake aimed at the American fuckwitted cowboys running our club, that the end of season fancy dress should be held at the last home game and every Villa fan come dressed up as a cowboy. Yeeeha!
if Gold/Sullivan or Mike Ashley was in charge of our club would you call them English fuckwits?
Being American sets them apart from most people in here and so is probably why it is used in a negative manner.
Being black or Asian would as well. Would you excuse casual racism of that sort?
Do I need to?Who said I'm excusing anything?I imagine it'd be pornographer/pornographer or fat bastard, in that order.No fan of lambert but seeing Lerner seemed to have screwed every manager since MON, I tend to believe his version. He did a shit job but given what he was asked to do its not surprising. Yeah he took the job but there's not many managers who haven't got an inflated opinion of their abilities otherwise they wouldn't be managers, and yeah he toed the official line and didn't complain at the time but so did all the rest, and so is Garde, for now. You can have a go at him for keeping quiet when employed by us but i can't see the problem with him speaking out now. As a shite manager he's obviously trying to justify his failure but even if he'd been half competant he'd never have done owt with that Villa set-up - one of the reasons I'm not that bothered about Garde limping on as lame-duck manager is because the reincarnation of ron saunders couldn't build a successful team with these cowboys at the helmAnd as for cowboys running our club. I'd like to propose that as a massive pisstake aimed at the American fuckwitted cowboys running our club, that the end of season fancy dress should be held at the last home game and every Villa fan come dressed up as a cowboy. Yeeeha!
if Gold/Sullivan or Mike Ashley was in charge of our club would you call them English fuckwits?
Being American sets them apart from most people in here and so is probably why it is used in a negative manner.
Being black or Asian would as well. Would you excuse casual racism of that sort?
You're not exactly condemning it
It's entirely up to you. I would hope that all right-thinking people would.Yes and yes.
If casual racism was his thing I'm sure he'd have mentioned that Lerner is Jewish, but he didn't.
If casual racism was his thing I'm sure he'd have mentioned that Lerner is Jewish, but he didn't.
As long as he's got a bad word to say about him; that's the main thing.
If casual racism was his thing I'm sure he'd have mentioned that Lerner is Jewish, but he didn't.
As long as he's got a bad word to say about him; that's the main thing.
Yeah, he deserves all the grief he gets in my book, and a bit more as well, but I would never condone racism.
If casual racism was his thing I'm sure he'd have mentioned that Lerner is Jewish, but he didn't.
As long as he's got a bad word to say about him; that's the main thing.
Yeah, he deserves all the grief he gets in my book, and a bit more as well, but I would never condone racism.
You'll agree that "American fuckwit" is out of order then?
Yes. Just plain old "fuckwit" sums him up beautifully.
No fan of lambert but seeing Lerner seemed to have screwed every manager since MON, I tend to believe his version. He did a shit job but given what he was asked to do its not surprising. Yeah he took the job but there's not many managers who haven't got an inflated opinion of their abilities otherwise they wouldn't be managers, and yeah he toed the official line and didn't complain at the time but so did all the rest, and so is Garde, for now. You can have a go at him for keeping quiet when employed by us but i can't see the problem with him speaking out now. As a shite manager he's obviously trying to justify his failure but even if he'd been half competant he'd never have done owt with that Villa set-up - one of the reasons I'm not that bothered about Garde limping on as lame-duck manager is because the reincarnation of ron saunders couldn't build a successful team with these cowboys at the helm
Checking the news this morning it appears both TSM's will be speaking out on Soccer Saturday today about their respective sentences while incarcerated at Aston Villa FC. Apparently Lambert was 'delighted' when he got the sack, and now McCleish is also bemoaning the hand he was given, ie. no money to spend, cutting the wage bill, while trying to remain competitive in the league.Signing NZog was a complete vanity on TSM's part, having failed to do so down the road. Putting both NZ and Given on long term expensive contracts was probably both the club's and TSM's doing.
Lambert again mumbles darkly about things 'going on behind the scenes' that he shouldn't have put up with (without ever specifying what these things were and risking non-compliance with the terms of his generous severance package). As the saying goes, 'Put up or shut up'.
If casual racism was his thing I'm sure he'd have mentioned that Lerner is Jewish, but he didn't.
As long as he's got a bad word to say about him; that's the main thing.
Yeah, he deserves all the grief he gets in my book, and a bit more as well, but I would never condone racism.
You'll agree that "American fuckwit" is out of order then?
What does TSM stand for? Is that racist?
I've no idea. Genuinely.What does TSM stand for? Is that racist?
Isn't it an allusion to him being unmentionable like 'The Scottish Play'?
What does TSM stand for? Is that racist?
I've no idea. Genuinely.What does TSM stand for? Is that racist?
Isn't it an allusion to him being unmentionable like 'The Scottish Play'?
"Paul, stop moaning about quitting and sign this new contract, that way, when we eventually see sense and sack you, we have to give you even more money" boy, what a fucking clever c*** Randy Lerner is!!!Lambert is a bell end and should really pipe down a bit, he was after all asleep at the wheel while this car crash was unfolding. TSM1 has managed to now not to make an arse of himself, he should quit while he's behind as well. And Lerner is a clever bastard isn't he? What a horrendous mess.
Lambert, shut up and fuck off. You too McLeish.
Someone should tell him he wasn't the only one who was 'delighted' when he was sacked.
The technical term to describe my state on hearing of his dismissal was ' shot my bolt totally...'Someone should tell him he wasn't the only one who was 'delighted' when he was sacked.
He was.
The rest of us were 'orgasmic.'
I feel sorry for the man. He was royally screwed over by a moribund club promising him the world. Then he panicked and forgot how football wins happen. Now he has to rebuild his professional dignity and the local media is a way for him to do that.
If he highlights our fuck ups along the way then great
I'm looking forward to Ewood Park next season. 7000 tickets and the chance to watch a goalkeeper pass the ball back from a goal kick.
Checking the news this morning it appears both TSM's will be speaking out on Soccer Saturday today about their respective sentences while incarcerated at Aston Villa FC. Apparently Lambert was 'delighted' when he got the sack, and now McCleish is also bemoaning the hand he was given, ie. no money to spend, cutting the wage bill, while trying to remain competitive in the league.this annoys me. You were a shit manager on decent money. We've paid you off and you keep shtum and we keep shtum. That's the deal. Twat. Twice as much respect for McLeish than this bell-end
Lambert again mumbles darkly about things 'going on behind the scenes' that he shouldn't have put up with (without ever specifying what these things were and risking non-compliance with the terms of his generous severance package). As the saying goes, 'Put up or shut up'.
A thought just occurred to me. This is where Stan Collymore could come in useful. He claims to be a football fan and a journo, well, please start informing the media about Lambert 's tenure Stan. Put the record straight please.
Checking the news this morning it appears both TSM's will be speaking out on Soccer Saturday today about their respective sentences while incarcerated at Aston Villa FC. Apparently Lambert was 'delighted' when he got the sack, and now McCleish is also bemoaning the hand he was given, ie. no money to spend, cutting the wage bill, while trying to remain competitive in the league.this annoys me. You were a shit manager on decent money. We've paid you off and you keep shtum and we keep shtum. That's the deal. Twat. Twice as much respect for McLeish than this bell-end
Lambert again mumbles darkly about things 'going on behind the scenes' that he shouldn't have put up with (without ever specifying what these things were and risking non-compliance with the terms of his generous severance package). As the saying goes, 'Put up or shut up'.
Checking the news this morning it appears both TSM's will be speaking out on Soccer Saturday today about their respective sentences while incarcerated at Aston Villa FC. Apparently Lambert was 'delighted' when he got the sack, and now McCleish is also bemoaning the hand he was given, ie. no money to spend, cutting the wage bill, while trying to remain competitive in the league.this annoys me. You were a shit manager on decent money. We've paid you off and you keep shtum and we keep shtum. That's the deal. Twat. Twice as much respect for McLeish than this bell-end
Lambert again mumbles darkly about things 'going on behind the scenes' that he shouldn't have put up with (without ever specifying what these things were and risking non-compliance with the terms of his generous severance package). As the saying goes, 'Put up or shut up'.
Why? McLeish has been every bit as vocal in the press as Lambert has over the last year or so.
I feel sorry for the man. He was royally screwed over by a moribund club promising him the world. Then he panicked and forgot how football wins happen. Now he has to rebuild his professional dignity and the local media is a way for him to do that.
If he highlights our fuck ups along the way then great
Lolz.
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11677/10215648/paul-lambert-says-he-is-not-surprised-by-aston-villas-struggles
But Paul why were so shit despite having Benteke, Delph, Vlaar and Cleverley?
Oh and Paul if it was so terrible why not chuck it all in? Why not be honourable and say no I can't be part of this? Why accept a four year contract extension?
He kept our ship afloat in recent seasons and he's right in what he says, its hardly sticking the boot in.
He kept our ship afloat in recent seasons and he's right in what he says, its hardly sticking the boot in.
But he got his fat pay-off so he should now just mind his own business and fuck off.
He kept our ship afloat in recent seasons and he's right in what he says, its hardly sticking the boot in.
But he got his fat pay-off so he should now just mind his own business and fuck off.
So eloquent. I really don't understand why you are so upset - he's hardly saying anything we don't all know, and every commentator, player, pundit etc has something to say. Whether its Savage, Murphy, Collymore, McManaman, so on and so forth. Its the game. Why is he any different?
Move on
He kept our ship afloat in recent seasons and he's right in what he says, its hardly sticking the boot in.
But he got his fat pay-off so he should now just mind his own business and fuck off.
So eloquent. I really don't understand why you are so upset - he's hardly saying anything we don't all know, and every commentator, player, pundit etc has something to say. Whether its Savage, Murphy, Collymore, McManaman, so on and so forth. Its the game. Why is he any different?
Move on
He kept our ship afloat in recent seasons and he's right in what he says, its hardly sticking the boot in.
But he got his fat pay-off so he should now just mind his own business and fuck off.
So eloquent. I really don't understand why you are so upset - he's hardly saying anything we don't all know, and every commentator, player, pundit etc has something to say. Whether its Savage, Murphy, Collymore, McManaman, so on and so forth. Its the game. Why is he any different?
Move on
He kept our ship afloat in recent seasons and he's right in what he says, its hardly sticking the boot in.
But he got his fat pay-off so he should now just mind his own business and fuck off.
So eloquent. I really don't understand why you are so upset - he's hardly saying anything we don't all know, and every commentator, player, pundit etc has something to say. Whether its Savage, Murphy, Collymore, McManaman, so on and so forth. Its the game. Why is he any different?
Move on
I'm not upset, and I couldn't care less about him. I don't like being reminded he was our manager though, so as I said, fuck him.
He kept our ship afloat in recent seasons and he's right in what he says, its hardly sticking the boot in.
But he got his fat pay-off so he should now just mind his own business and fuck off.
So eloquent. I really don't understand why you are so upset - he's hardly saying anything we don't all know, and every commentator, player, pundit etc has something to say. Whether its Savage, Murphy, Collymore, McManaman, so on and so forth. Its the game. Why is he any different?
Move on
I'm not upset, and I couldn't care less about him. I don't like being reminded he was our manager though, so as I said, fuck him.
Agreed. And it's not like he's going on about Norwich or Colchester. He could easily deflect the question about us but he constantly weighs in with his irrelevant opinion.
You are part of the problem Paul. Shut the fuck up or if you want talk acknowledge your role in this mess.
Good point about Norwich. A club he achieved far more with and he should be proud of the work he did there. Instead he always bleats on about us for some reason. Why always talk about the job you failed at? Surely better to talk about your successes.
It's probably just a case of he gets asked about us when doing an interview so he replies. If McLeish or Pubehead were managing in the league over here they'd probably be asked about our situation as well.Doesn't need to answer the question though. Could politely decline. It's obvious he's desperately trying to blame everyone else and salvage his reputation. It's all part of the media game. No doubt, some PR guy, employed by his agent, has advised him on the answers to give.
It's probably just a case of he gets asked about us when doing an interview so he replies. If McLeish or Pubehead were managing in the league over here they'd probably be asked about our situation as well.Doesn't need to answer the question though. Could politely decline. It's obvious he's desperately trying to blame everyone else and salvage his reputation. It's all part of the media game. No doubt, some PR guy, employed by his agent, has advised him on the answers to give.
Not really. He looks like a twat when he keeps going on about us, which is the the reason for this ahead. And besides, these days people are all told the questions they will be asked before they go on these programmes. Any they don't like, don't get asked. He obviously wants to answer them to cover his backside, as we both know.It's probably just a case of he gets asked about us when doing an interview so he replies. If McLeish or Pubehead were managing in the league over here they'd probably be asked about our situation as well.Doesn't need to answer the question though. Could politely decline. It's obvious he's desperately trying to blame everyone else and salvage his reputation. It's all part of the media game. No doubt, some PR guy, employed by his agent, has advised him on the answers to give.
He'd look even more of a plum if he said "no comment". How many players or managers don't answer a question when asked about an old club?
Of course there's an element he's covering his own arse, same as most of us have in our careers as well.
What i will NEVER understand about PL was that he put together an excellent attractive attacking side at Norwich, came to Villa and wouldn't cross the half-way line.
Lambert is not just saying the League is hard he has proved that with his tenure at Blackburn.
'Guided Villa to successive 15th place......'
Fucking hell,anyone would think that was an achievement to be proud of.
Thinking about it over the past couple of weeks, I believe that letting Lambert just coast along for too long did the real damage to the club. I think it's probably where the poor attitudes and serious malaise really set in and it can't be shifted. He really is one of the last people I want to hear talking about Villa.
It actually makes me think that the whole "bullygate" affair, the Keane offering players out etc was really the start of player power rising. It only needed a weak, still thinking he is one of them, manager for it to have grown even more
Hindsight is a wonderful thing but I bet the whole bullying affair was raised by certain players to get rid of some fitness and coaching regimes they did not like
Boy this club is rotten and as Black subtly put it - "On the verge of Anarchy"
Please Mr Lambert: f*ck*ng well STOP. Thank youFixed
It's incredibly offensive to the fans to say he could "see it coming for years". Almost as if a manager has no power over results. And that " I begged Randy to sack me" stuff before, does he think all these soundbytes paint him in a better light?
Please Mr Lambert: f*ck*ng well STOP. Thank youFixed
He's coming back, isnt' he?
He's coming back, isn't he?
Leaving Blackburn at end of the season apparently.
He goes again.
Leaving Blackburn at end of the season apparently.
He goes again.
Hope he didnt get another payout!
And it will be the only place in the world where anyone understands what he's on about.
Modest PaulPick up the phone, pick up the phone, pick up the FUCKING phone, I need a job.
http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36428467
Surprised he left Blackburn. Having failed so badly at Villa they seemed the perfect sized club for him. Think he will get another job, but he does have to rebuild career. I see him working as a pundit for awhile.
The more I hear from him the more I think he's not the full ticket.
The two things that irk me more than anything about him is the amount of chances he was given and yet still intimates he had a raw deal. And second, that he constantly moaned about crap budgets and yet there are managers who spent less than he did and got them to a half decent finish or in Leicesters case won the league. It's not always about what you spend but the way you spend it and whether or not the person managing the team is a buffoon or not Paul.
The two things that irk me more than anything about him is the amount of chances he was given and yet still intimates he had a raw deal. And second, that he constantly moaned about crap budgets and yet there are managers who spent less than he did and got them to a half decent finish or in Leicesters case won the league. It's not always about what you spend but the way you spend it and whether or not the person managing the team is a buffoon or not Paul.
This is how I feel. He was given the club's full backing and got longer than any manager outside of MON over the last decade and just couldn't turn us around. Think he did a very good job at Norwich and is a decent manager, but certainly wasn't up to it at Villa.
The two things that irk me more than anything about him is the amount of chances he was given and yet still intimates he had a raw deal. And second, that he constantly moaned about crap budgets and yet there are managers who spent less than he did and got them to a half decent finish or in Leicesters case won the league. It's not always about what you spend but the way you spend it and whether or not the person managing the team is a buffoon or not Paul.
This is how I feel. He was given the club's full backing and got longer than any manager outside of MON over the last decade and just couldn't turn us around. Think he did a very good job at Norwich and is a decent manager, but certainly wasn't up to it at Villa.
Or at pretty much every other managerial job he has had, so Norwich is now beginning to look like the exception. I think allowing him to tread water for far too long was one the main reasons for the situation we find ourselves in.
Genius: "get up the pitch".
"Your big, your strong, get up the pitch and you will cause havoc because of your size". Only a man who took his coaching badges in Germany can come up with revolutionary stuff like that.
'The 47 year old, who is without a managerial job at the moment.......'
Do you reckon he gets drunk and emotional sometimes, phones up the club late at night and says sorry and asks if we will have him back?
"Your big, your strong, get up the pitch and you will cause havoc because of your size". Only a man who took his coaching badges in Germany can come up with revolutionary stuff like that.
'The 47 year old, who is without a managerial job at the moment.......'
Do you reckon he gets drunk and emotional sometimes, phones up the club late at night and says sorry and asks if we will have him back?
if he knew what a phone was
From what I remember he did okay at Wycombe and Colchester as well as very well with Norwich.
From what I remember he did okay at Wycombe and Colchester as well as very well with Norwich.
I think you sum it up. He undoubtedly did well at Norwich. At Wycombe and Colchester he did....Okay.
But... but but he did not relegate us or Norwich....just saying.
(Now where did I put that tin hat?)
"Your big, your strong, get up the pitch and you will cause havoc because of your size". Only a man who took his coaching badges in Germany can come up with revolutionary stuff like that.
"Your big, your strong, get up the pitch and you will cause havoc because of your size". Only a man who took his coaching badges in Germany can come up with revolutionary stuff like that.
Glad those trips to Europe were worthwhile, Paul. Where are you working these days by the way? Oh, that's right...
The fucking clown was on that fantasy football show with Merse last week, spouting the usual almost incoherent meaningless drivel. How the fuck did he ever get a performance out of a footballer?
He sounded such a twat I felt a bit embarrassed for him.
And Merse obviously didn't rate him as Villa manager, coming dangerously close to breaking the 'never criticise a fellow pro' code when the other bloke asked him what he thought of the job Lamberk did at Villa.
You could tell he was embarrassed and all he could really say was 'you shouldn't have kept saying the players were excellent'.
He should try brushing up on his English.
He should try brushing up on his English.
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Wolves boss Paul Lambert blasts former Villa owner Randy Lerner
New Wolves boss Paul Lambert has taken a swipe at former Villa owner Randy Lerner and vowed: “I’ll never protect anybody like that again.”
Lambert spent a frustrating two-and-a-half seasons at Villa Park working on a heavily restricted budget before being axed in February 2015.
After his replacement, Tim Sherwood, kept the club in the top flight, Lerner then sanctioned a disastrous £50million spending spree which played a large part in Villa’s Premier League exit last season.
And speaking during his unveiling at Molineux yesterday, Lambert aimed a thinly veiled dig at his former employer.
“I certainly wouldn’t do that again,” he said. “I certainly wouldn’t protect people the way I did protect them. Then the club spent money after I left and ended up getting relegated.
“It just shows you I didn’t do too bad a job there when you look at it.”
When asked to expand on his comments, Lambert replied: “Everybody knows the situation. I would not have gone into a press conference every Thursday or Friday and spoken the same drivel I did for a couple of years. I certainly won’t put it all on my own shoulders again.”
Read more at http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/wolverhampton-wanderers-fc/2016/11/08/wolves-boss-paul-lambert-blasts-former-villa-owner-randy-lerner/?#5FabbEY6tG1GFHV1.99
True. But he may have spent the money better.
If he was so disenchanted why sign that new contract?
Wolves boss Paul Lambert blasts former Villa owner Randy Lerner
New Wolves boss Paul Lambert has taken a swipe at former Villa owner Randy Lerner and vowed: “I’ll never protect anybody like that again.”
Lambert spent a frustrating two-and-a-half seasons at Villa Park working on a heavily restricted budget before being axed in February 2015.
After his replacement, Tim Sherwood, kept the club in the top flight, Lerner then sanctioned a disastrous £50million spending spree which played a large part in Villa’s Premier League exit last season.
And speaking during his unveiling at Molineux yesterday, Lambert aimed a thinly veiled dig at his former employer.
“I certainly wouldn’t do that again,” he said. “I certainly wouldn’t protect people the way I did protect them. Then the club spent money after I left and ended up getting relegated.
“It just shows you I didn’t do too bad a job there when you look at it.”
When asked to expand on his comments, Lambert replied: “Everybody knows the situation. I would not have gone into a press conference every Thursday or Friday and spoken the same drivel I did for a couple of years. I certainly won’t put it all on my own shoulders again.”
Read more at http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/wolverhampton-wanderers-fc/2016/11/08/wolves-boss-paul-lambert-blasts-former-villa-owner-randy-lerner/?#5FabbEY6tG1GFHV1.99
He was paid to do a job. That job was to keep Villa up on a shoestring, whilst the owner looked for a buyer. How was he protecting Lerner?
With regards the money spent, he fails to mention that £40 million came from the Benteke and Delph sales. What manager would prefer the money instead of those two (irreplaceable) players when facing a relegation battle?
I have no problems with Lambert. He came here and did a job under very difficult circumstances. However, he would have taken us down if he hadn't have been sacked in 2015. It's no point trying to re-write history now. The heart of that Villa side was ripped out during that pre-season with the 4 key players all leaving. Lambert would have fared no better than Sherwood or Garde.
He was lying to us for three years, then, just to protect his boss? Every time he opens his mouth he makes me dislike him just that little bit more. He's a self-aggrandising liar, an incomprehensible buffoon and a fucking charlatan. I hope his contact lenses stick to his eyeballs.
He was lying to us for three years, then, just to protect his boss? Every time he opens his mouth he makes me dislike him just that little bit more. He's a self-aggrandising liar, an incomprehensible buffoon and a fucking charlatan. I hope his contact lenses stick to his eyeballs.
Just seen this one. Spot on.
Did Lerner tell him to get the keeper to pass the ball to the fullbacks standing at the corner flags? One of he most bizarre tings I have ever seen on a football pitch.True that. Utterly bizarre. Not even Barcelona would try that tactic!
If he was so disenchanted why sign that new contract?
Lambert and Sherwood being able to smugly say ''I never got'em relegated, nothing to do with me'' is the biggest career-saver either could have dared dream for.
I know Sherwood has been out of management since we got rid but the amount of neutrals who say we should have stuck with him beggars belief and I think he'll be back managing before long.
this gets my vote.He was lying to us for three years, then, just to protect his boss? Every time he opens his mouth he makes me dislike him just that little bit more. He's a self-aggrandising liar, an incomprehensible buffoon and a fucking charlatan. I hope his contact lenses stick to his eyeballs.
Just seen this one. Spot on.
Yes, Jimbo, well said.
True. But he may have spent the money better.
The majority of signings were out of the managers hands in any case.
I keep hearing this shit about him saying he didn't do a bad job and kept us up bla bla. Why does he continually overlook the obvious fact that if a half decent manager (say Bruce) had Benteke and Delph in their side along with the likes of Cleverley and Grealish they would have comfortably got us to mid table. If you then take them out of your side and replace them with dross then yes, there is a chance we might get relegated. You are a hero Paul, I doff my cap at your achievements.
Did Lerner tell him to get the keeper to pass the ball to the fullbacks standing at the corner flags? One of he most bizarre things I have ever seen on a football pitch.
Yes true, I wonder if there was a time limit on Lamberts clause, or maybe number pf jobs afterwards or something, because this to me is a very bizarre rant.Lambert and Sherwood being able to smugly say ''I never got'em relegated, nothing to do with me'' is the biggest career-saver either could have dared dream for.
I know Sherwood has been out of management since we got rid but the amount of neutrals who say we should have stuck with him beggars belief and I think he'll be back managing before long.
To be fair to Sherwood, I have never heard him come out with anything other than respectful comments about us since. Obviously he knows what a confidentiality clause means
As Wolves are (potentially) promotion rivals of ours, whether this season or next, I'd be slightly concerned if they'd appointed a decent manager.
However I'm pretty pleased they've appointed Lambert, which says it all really.
To be honest there was a lot of times when he should have been sacked, none more so than the Bradford debicle though. Losing a 2 legged tie to a League 2 team, along with the tactics of the home leg, were fucking pathetic.
A thousand times this.
He seemed to continually find a result every 8-9 games which kept his head above water after the Bradford/Millwall debacles. The fact we had the Lerner/Faulkner blind leading the blind double act above him just made the situation worse.
A thousand times this.
He seemed to continually find a result every 8-9 games which kept his head above water after the Bradford/Millwall debacles. The fact we had the Lerner/Faulkner blind leading the blind double act above him just made the situation worse.
I think he should've been given the elbow before that, after the 0-8, 0-4, 0-3 Christmas present v Chelsea, Spurs and Wigan
A thousand times this.
He seemed to continually find a result every 8-9 games which kept his head above water after the Bradford/Millwall debacles. The fact we had the Lerner/Faulkner blind leading the blind double act above him just made the situation worse.
I think he should've been given the elbow before that, after the 0-8, 0-4, 0-3 Christmas present v Chelsea, Spurs and Wigan
And even those followed the smash and grab at Liverpool.
Lambert and Sherwood being able to smugly say ''I never got'em relegated, nothing to do with me'' is the biggest career-saver either could have dared dream for.
I know Sherwood has been out of management since we got rid but the amount of neutrals who say we should have stuck with him beggars belief and I think he'll be back managing before long.
To be fair to Sherwood, I have never heard him come out with anything other than respectful comments about us since. Obviously he knows what a confidentiality clause means
True. But he may have spent the money better.
The majority of signings were out of the managers hands in any case. Besides, Benteke apart, he didn't spend any better in any case.
The sad fact is that it was not possible to replace the players we lost given the state of the club and the wages we were offering at the time.
Gabby to Wolves? Lambert was stupid enough to give him that new contract after all.
Did Lerner tell him to get the keeper to pass the ball to the fullbacks standing at the corner flags? One of he most bizarre tings I have ever seen on a football pitch.True that. Utterly bizarre. Not even Barcelona would try that tactic!
I'd have more sympathy for him if he had resigned and drew attention to the Lerner madness at the club, but he didn't, and he was quite happy to sign that huge contract and wait for the sack while the fans put up with his quite diabolical team. Fuck him.
I wish he'd piss off and get a job with Trump.
I wish he'd piss off and get a job with Trump.
Good call. He could be Chump's official mouthpiece to the world & mumble his way through cod-policy. That'd show them pesky Mescans. ;)
He offered to Congress to be impeached on three occasions apparently.
He offered to Congress to be impeached on three occasions apparently.
the funniest thing is that wolves fan actually want him and think he will do a good job
Remember he nearly took Blackburn down too. I'm delighted he's at Wolves.the funniest thing is that wolves fan actually want him and think he will do a good job
To be fair he did at Norwich who are a similar size club. The man was way out of his depth at Villa.
I wont be laughing much until after we play them again though. He does seem to have a good record against his previous clubs. I always looked forward to playing Norwich with him in charge.
https://youtu.be/5CpYKqX6KVs
Far more interesting than fucking Lambert.
https://youtu.be/5CpYKqX6KVs
Far more interesting than fucking Lambert.
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I'm more concerned that Holloway will sort QPR out than I am Lambert sorting Wolves out.
Surprised he got the Wolves job, they played us off the park only a few weeks ago so it's clear Lambert will have decent players to work with. Going to be under serious pressure to deliver with their new owners, flop here and his career may be over.
He might eventually get Wolves promoted but then they need to sack him before he does to them what he did to Villa. He is the main reason for Villa's current plight.
He might eventually get Wolves promoted but then they need to sack him before he does to them what he did to Villa. He is the main reason for Villa's current plight. If the players bought weren't his choice he should have said so.
the funniest thing is that wolves fan actually want him and think he will do a good job
To be fair he did at Norwich who are a similar size club. The man was way out of his depth at Villa.
He might eventually get Wolves promoted but then they need to sack him before he does to them what he did to Villa. He is the main reason for Villa's current plight.
More than Lerner or Fox?
Hmm.
He might eventually get Wolves promoted but then they need to sack him before he does to them what he did to Villa. He is the main reason for Villa's current plight.
More than Lerner or Fox?
Hmm.
the funniest thing is that wolves fan actually want him and think he will do a good job
To be fair he did at Norwich who are a similar size club. The man was way out of his depth at Villa.
I can't think of a stage in my life when I have thought at Norwich were as big as Wolves.
And an additional 4 year deal... no other club in the country would have done that.
It was a difficult job for Lambert here, no question about that but I do think he really installed the losing mentality within the club.
McLeish started the negative process but he was quickly removed, Lambert wasn't.
When you look at his reign, 15-0 over xmas 2012, Bradford (and other awful cup exits in other seasons) and annual runs of 6 games where we couldn't even score a goal it's amazing he lasted close to 3 years here.
After that 8 - 0 mauling by Chelsea in 2012 he should have been booted out of the club.There were so many times he should have been fired.
After that 8 - 0 mauling by Chelsea in 2012 he should have been booted out of the club.
He sacrificed any grain of integrity he might ever have possessed by sucking Randy's perpendicular pole for the big bucks. He talked more shit than the combined output of Fox News.
I hope his balls shrivel, drop off and roll down a drain.
Lambo:. I’ve had two clubs since Aston Villa. It’s just another game for me. I’m older. It doesn’t really matter who we play against. It’s about Wolves and how we perform
Hopefully, "we go again" at around 7:30 tomorrow.
Lambo:. I’ve had two clubs since Aston Villa. It’s just another game for me. I’m older. It doesn’t really matter who we play against. It’s about Wolves and how we perform
He's spent the week reminding every one of the Dortmund connection he has with Klopp.
yes that exclusive eatery on the Hamptons must seem a long time ago - at least he's still got a few million of Randy's Benjamin's to fall back on.
yes that exclusive eatery on the Hamptons must seem a long time ago - at least he's still got a few million of Randy's Benjamin's to fall back on.
Ah, the meal that never was.
He's just been on SSN mumbling about his time at Wolves and Villa...from what I could make out, he's not leaving Wolves after all.
Has any managers stock fallen as much in such a short span of time than this numpty?
Has any managers stock fallen as much in such a short span of time than this numpty?
I'd say that given it's only four years ago that David Moyes was being hired to manage Manchester United on a six year contract, there's at least one.
Has any managers stock fallen as much in such a short span of time than this numpty?
I'd say that given it's only four years ago that David Moyes was being hired to manage Manchester United on a six year contract, there's at least one.
yep he qualifies for sure. And Brendan Rodgers took the easy route by taking a stint in a one team league in Scotland because he was headed somewhat the same way as Lambert.
He has now left Wolves according to BBC- along with the whole of his back room staff. Be good to get Tony Daley back as fitness coach.
Has any managers stock fallen as much in such a short span of time than this numpty?
I'd say that given it's only four years ago that David Moyes was being hired to manage Manchester United on a six year contract, there's at least one.
yep he qualifies for sure. And Brendan Rodgers took the easy route by taking a stint in a one team league in Scotland because he was headed somewhat the same way as Lambert.
I think Rogers has a bit more about him than Lambert. Lambert can come in and make a fairly immediate impact results improve and then they plateau, then they fall down. He has a way of playing, when that goes wrong he has no option but will experiment. The experiment will be foundation-less, the keeping possession for possession's sake we were repeatedly treated to for instance. When that too fails we get a bit of both which is even worse. In short, he really is clueless.
Actually 5 years to the day since he turned up here according to my FB.It's funny isn't it, I was really quite excited by the prospect that day!
What a waste of time.
I wanted Rodgers
oh paul just wants to be loved.
What, someone who'd not managed for over a year and never in Blighty? Maybe we could have tempted the more successful Lyon manager Paul Le Guen. He had form as a poor replacement for Alex McLeish. I think in 20 years Remi Garde will be the manager whose name we all struggle to remember and Villa will still be his second most successful managerial stint.
He's been at it again albeit talking about Wolves this time. "I'm pretty sure I'd have been up there too," Lambert told BBC WM.
"I knew if we could revamp it in the summertime and get the players in, indicated by the sort of money that they have now, we wouldn't have been far away.
"I knew the size of the club. The club is huge. They have great people there and brilliant supporters. Everything is going for them."
Blah, blah, blah. Get a job.
What did he say about Dortmund?
He's been at it again albeit talking about Wolves this time. "I'm pretty sure I'd have been up there too," Lambert told BBC WM.
"I knew if we could revamp it in the summertime and get the players in, indicated by the sort of money that they have now, we wouldn't have been far away.
"I knew the size of the club. The club is huge. They have great people there and brilliant supporters. Everything is going for them."
Lambert was nowhere near as badly treated on what he had to spend as he would have you believe.
Wasn't that also the summer where it was strongly rumoured that he didn't spend all that he'd been given?It was, so deserves no sympathy whatsoever.
Some things transcend mere football rivalries, and it is in that spirit that I think we should all spare a prayer for our friends in the Potteries on what is undoubtedly a very sad day for them.
Presumably Coates was passed a list of available managers and plumped for the only one he'd heard of. There's no other explanation.
Presumably Coates was passed a list of available managers and plumped for the only one he'd heard of. There's no other explanation.
Apparently Pardew was Albion's 8th choice manager.
I wonder how far down Stoke's initial list of managers Lambert was?
Mind bogglingly lazy appointment. And none of this contract til the end of the season stuff, the lucky chancer gets a 2.5 year deal!
I like the bit in the club statement where the chairman says he does well in stable clubs with local ownership. AHA! Neatly sidesteps his record managing us then ...
Apparently Pardew was Albion's 8th choice manager.
I wonder how far down Stoke's initial list of managers Lambert was?
Mind bogglingly lazy appointment. And none of this contract til the end of the season stuff, the lucky chancer gets a 2.5 year deal!
It's not often that I feel sympathy for Stoke City.
My thoughts are with them at this very sad time.
Aye, I mean, wi'd love to stay up, obvisly, bit ya need ta have a realism also... have heard th'word 'doomed' bin batted around... probly will nae be far off. A'll do best a can wi' what I'm gen. We'll need luck.
Just wait until he starts trotting out “we go again”. Stoke fans will know then that they are well and truly fucked.
I wonder what he'll make of being reunited with Stephen Ireland? Actually, I can't remember if their time coincided much at Villa.
Just wait until he starts trotting out “we go again”. Stoke fans will know then that they are well and truly fucked.
Or when "I thought we did well" starts appearing after yet another defeat and the kind of football that makes your eyes bleed. If I were the hierarchy at Stoke, I would ban him from going to Dortmund, because whenever he came back from there he seemed to have discovered a new way of making us worse.
Just wait until he starts trotting out “we go again”. Stoke fans will know then that they are well and truly fucked.
Or when "I thought we did well" starts appearing after yet another defeat and the kind of football that makes your eyes bleed. If I were the hierarchy at Stoke, I would ban him from going to Dortmund, because whenever he came back from there he seemed to have discovered a new way of making us worse.
I wish him well. He seems a complete twat.
But it will end badly.
They must be fucking insane. They're down.You'd think so, but much the same was said about Moyes and West Ham and he's doing well there. I've given up trying to predict football with any accuracy. Therefore I think Lambert will guide Stoke to a Europa League spot this season, then they'll the win the league the next year.
I will always remember him as the person who pushed us on to the glacier where our descent began when he bragged that his lowering of our expectations was a great achievement. The intellectual equivalent of the backwards goal kick.Completely agree, One of the architects of our demise.
I'm amazed they've gone for him.
Blimey, their fans are in for some fun.
I'm amazed they've gone for him.
Blimey, their fans are in for some fun.
We have a couple at work. They are unimpressed.
Oh and if you want a chuckle go and have a look at the Oatcake message board for a healthy mixture of complete despair interspersed with some golden threads trying to look for the positives, such as him being '2011 Championship manager of the season'!!!
Oh and one Stoke fan has declared that they're Lambert's 'biggest club by miles'.... :o
Oh and if you want a chuckle go and have a look at the Oatcake message board for a healthy mixture of complete despair interspersed with some golden threads trying to look for the positives, such as him being '2011 Championship manager of the season'!!!
Oh and one Stoke fan has declared that they're Lambert's 'biggest club by miles'.... :o
Stoke's relegation, signed, sealed and delivered.
"“He’s a man who backed himself as a player, none more so than when he turned down contract offers in Scotland to go on trial in the German Bundesliga with Borussia Dortmund, and it’s obvious he adopts the same approach as a manager.”
John Coates added: “Paul has been successful in management at clubs with a strong and stable background and with local ownership – the kind of foundation we are able to give to our managers."
"However, arguably his greatest managerial achievement was keeping Aston Villa in the Premier League against all expectations in difficult circumstances."
Oh and if you want a chuckle go and have a look at the Oatcake message board for a healthy mixture of complete despair interspersed with some golden threads trying to look for the positives, such as him being '2011 Championship manager of the season'!!!
Oh and one Stoke fan has declared that they're Lambert's 'biggest club by miles'.... :o
Oh and if you want a chuckle go and have a look at the Oatcake message board for a healthy mixture of complete despair interspersed with some golden threads trying to look for the positives, such as him being '2011 Championship manager of the season'!!!
Oh and one Stoke fan has declared that they're Lambert's 'biggest club by miles'.... :o
I love others despairing for once. Do you have a link?
Oh and if you want a chuckle go and have a look at the Oatcake message board for a healthy mixture of complete despair interspersed with some golden threads trying to look for the positives, such as him being '2011 Championship manager of the season'!!!
Oh and one Stoke fan has declared that they're Lambert's 'biggest club by miles'.... :o
I love others despairing for once. Do you have a link?
the oatcake (http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/board/2/stoke-city-fc#) but blimey, they seem to start a lot of threads. You might have to dig down a bit deep to find things from as far back as yesterday. The POSITIVE THREAD has gone from the front page already.
If you exclude Black, for reasons too well known to be regurgitated, from the list of post SGT managers, Lambert is the worst. Every other one had a scrap of mitigation - MON's league positions, McLeish being a decent man, Sherwood's cup semi final, Garde's shabby treatment by the board, RDM probably getting the bullet too early, Bruce for scrambling Bruce-like. But Lambert has absolutely nothing to commend him. Dour, incoherent, charmless, unimaginative, prone at all times to re write reality but most of all becoming the poster boy for reduced expectations.
I lived through Bingo Billy, Graham Turner, Dr Venglos, DOL and KMac but I regard Paul Lambert as the worst Villa manager in my time.
Presumably Coates was passed a list of available managers and plumped for the only one he'd heard of. There's no other explanation.
I'm amazed they've gone for him.
Blimey, their fans are in for some fun.
We have a couple at work. They are unimpressed.
You should tell them to hold onto that ‘coz it will be replaced by frustration, disbelief and ultimately despair.
If you exclude Black, for reasons too well known to be regurgitated, from the list of post SGT managers, Lambert is the worst. Every other one had a scrap of mitigation - MON's league positions, McLeish being a decent man, Sherwood's cup semi final, Garde's shabby treatment by the board, RDM probably getting the bullet too early, Bruce for scrambling Bruce-like. But Lambert has absolutely nothing to commend him. Dour, incoherent, charmless, unimaginative, prone at all times to re write reality but most of all becoming the poster boy for reduced expectations.Well said, an absolute charlatan.
I lived through Bingo Billy, Graham Turner, Dr Venglos, DOL and KMac but I regard Paul Lambert as the worst Villa manager in my time.
Watching the goals from last night - was that Ireland on the field doing his usual old tricks - he was the closest to one of the scorers but instead of making a challenge just stood there watching.
If you exclude Black, for reasons too well known to be regurgitated, from the list of post SGT managers, Lambert is the worst. Every other one had a scrap of mitigation - MON's league positions, McLeish being a decent man, Sherwood's cup semi final, Garde's shabby treatment by the board, RDM probably getting the bullet too early, Bruce for scrambling Bruce-like. But Lambert has absolutely nothing to commend him. Dour, incoherent, charmless, unimaginative, prone at all times to re write reality but most of all becoming the poster boy for reduced expectations.
I lived through Bingo Billy, Graham Turner, Dr Venglos, DOL and KMac but I regard Paul Lambert as the worst Villa manager in my time.
"Did a great job at Villa".
Some bozo on 5Live.
"Did a great job at Villa".
Some bozo on 5Live.
"Did a great job at Villa".
Some bozo on 5Live.
Begs the question as to what he would have had to do for them to consider he'd done a bad job at Villa!
"Did a great job at Villa".
Some bozo on 5Live.
Begs the question as to what he would have had to do for them to consider he'd done a bad job at Villa!
29% win rate I think it was
"Did a great job at Villa".
Some bozo on 5Live.
Begs the question as to what he would have had to do for them to consider he'd done a bad job at Villa!
29% win rate I think it was
The fact we didn't get relegated under him (I specifically use that phrase as opposed to saying he kept us up) but finished rock bottom not long after he left portrays him in a better light than he deserves. To most casual football fans he is the bloke that kept us up in a heroic Big Sam style.
Anybody who went to Hull would have known, without a shadow of a doubt that we were cooked and done that season.
You realize how barmy football is when Lambert gets offered a gig as a PL manager .
Rab C Mumble to Stoke? Staggering, simply staggering. What on earth are they thinking? All that talk about doing a good job at Villa, keeping us up etc etc is re-writing history. Remember Christmas 2012? We lost 15-0. Remember Bradford, Millwall, Orient, Blades? Cup humiliations one and all. Remember getting to January having scored 12 goals all season? Remember Tonev, Kozak, Senderos, Sylla etc etc? Remember giving Gabby a 4 yr contract in 2014?? I'll give him Benteke, but that's it. Lerner notwithstanding, Lambert was a dreadful manager for Aston Villa.
"Never in a million years" did Lambert expect Stoke job http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42753342
Someone else's problem now. Limited sympathy for Stokies
I can see him keeping them up. The bottom half of the Prem looks pretty shit tbh.
Apparently they were outstanding today according to him. Which we all know means they were average as f**k. Can't stand listening to his bullshit, I'd rather they went down than Smethwick now.
Apparently they were outstanding today according to him. Which we all know means they were average as f**k. Can't stand listening to his bullshit, I'd rather they went down than Smethwick now.
Apparently they were outstanding today according to him. Which we all know means they were average as f**k. Can't stand listening to his bullshit, I'd rather they went down than Smethwick now.
Let’s not go mad.
Paul Lambert has admitted he was ‘relieved’ to be sacked as Aston Villa boss
I'm sure it was a big relief to get sacked with compo, as opposed to doing the decent thing and stepped down.
I'm sure it was a big relief to get sacked with compo, as opposed to doing the decent thing and stepped down.
To be honest, If I was in his situation at that time, knowing that the end was imminent, there would be absolutely no way I would step down myself and just forfeit a considerable amount of money
I'm sure it was a big relief to get sacked with compo, as opposed to doing the decent thing and stepped down.
To be honest, If I was in his situation at that time, knowing that the end was imminent, there would be absolutely no way I would step down myself and just forfeit a considerable amount of money
Would you sign a new contract though like Lambert did? This is where his poor mouth tale starts to fall apart...
He was horribly advised to take that contract to be fair to him....scrabbling around to pick up the likes of Senderos, Joe Cole and Richardson on frees
Having somewhat been in Lambert's position, if the company offers you a contract and both sides sign it, if they want to get rid of you then they should honour the terms within it. Both sides would have been fully aware of the terms and what each would be entitled to if one or the other party terminates the contract. Lambert was perfectly within his right to stick around and collect the money. The notion of him walking away makes no sense and pride/dignity mean nothing at all. In the end he has had 3 jobs since and amazingly somehow has found his way to manage a PL football club. So instead of walking away for nothing he got paid for being fired.
Having somewhat been in Lambert's position, if the company offers you a contract and both sides sign it, if they want to get rid of you then they should honour the terms within it. Both sides would have been fully aware of the terms and what each would be entitled to if one or the other party terminates the contract. Lambert was perfectly within his right to stick around and collect the money. The notion of him walking away makes no sense and pride/dignity mean nothing at all. In the end he has had 3 jobs since and amazingly somehow has found his way to manage a PL football club. So instead of walking away for nothing he got paid for being fired.
The problem is, if you take that view and stick around waiting for the inevitable then you look like a bit of a twat if you start telling people you'd been wanting to leave for 8months by the time it happened and acting like it was an impossible job and was killing you. This isn't about having the dignity to walk, it's about having the sense to walk away with your money and keep your mouth shut.
He's like a divorcee forced to accept that the one for them didn't feel the same. No matter where he pitches up he has to talk about us.
He's like a divorcee forced to accept that the one for them didn't feel the same. No matter where he pitches up he has to talk about us.
Maybe if TSM and TSM II both stopped talking about us so much they could concentrate on tying to prove us wrong to get rid of them. But I'm not holding my breath.
Lambert did have a difficult job on limited resources, but he could have done it a lot better and been more honest about his own failings. Which included signing a load of shit, or at best mediocre, players (Benteke being the exception), recruiting poor coaching staff, not having a proper scouting system and then coming out with great steaming piles of bullshit to try and excuse dreadful performances.
Some Delilah said:
His post match interview was as far from the reality of what occurred as it was possible to be without taking some sort of hallucinatory substances!
Today’s post match interview, following Stoke’s home draw with Brighton.
“Second half, I thought we were excellent, I really did.”
This is my favourite.
Our new manager talks great but he's a clueless fucking idiot who hasn't got a fucking clue about anything. He doesn't know where to turn for a solution to his and his teams ineptitude.
To top it all off he then proceeds to give the most laughable, deluded interview to the local radio station where he describes our performance as excellent, claims we have a really good team and then says he's disappointed by the break because we are in really good form.
Seriously? Just fuck off and take coates Jnr, scholes and cartwright with you. Useless fucking wankers the lot of them.
Read more: http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/276899/lambert?page=3#ixzz56nRAHZd7
I'm surprised anyone can understand a word he says nowadays.
He just sounds like a permanently pissed Rab.C Nesbitt (who was permanently pissed)
Sorry to dig this name up but I watched Stoke last night (not out of choice) and although they can be forgiven for playing against possibly the best side in Europe they were they're usual Lamberty negative garbage. 3 of the first 5 threads on the Stoke forum are about how shit Lambert is and they want rid. He hasn't even got started yet, they haven't seen anything, wait until he unleashes the Goalkick backpass on them.
The serial bullshitter will probably end up at Schalke next, in a career that continues at odds with his actual ability.
He must have some agent.
Stoke have done a motivational Facebook video to try to get themselves out of trouble. The main narrative/mumbling comes from Lambert.Hahaha! Not sure where they are getting their inspiration from? Loud! Proud! Passionate! Bear Pit!
I've literally never heard anything less inspiring. Enjoy!
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10157157272644638&id=28928779637
Stoke have done a motivational Facebook video to try to get themselves out of trouble. The main narrative/mumbling comes from Lambert.Hahaha! Not sure where they are getting their inspiration from? Loud! Proud! Passionate! Bear Pit!
I've literally never heard anything less inspiring. Enjoy!
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10157157272644638&id=28928779637
I've not looked at their remaining fixtures but I reckon they're doomed following this. There's no way the footie gods will stand for this.
Stoke have done a motivational Facebook video to try to get themselves out of trouble. The main narrative/mumbling comes from Lambert.
I've literally never heard anything less inspiring. Enjoy!
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10157157272644638&id=28928779637
Paul Lambert is backing his players to survive - with the help of their supporters.
Lambert was genuinely moved by the support of Stoke fans today - not least at the final whistle when they heartily applauded their team off.
Stoke's fourth successive defeat leaves them second bottom and in all kinds of strife, but not without hope says their manager after a performance like this afternoon's.
"I thought we were excellent throughout the game and were up against a really good side," said Lambert.
"I couldn't ask any more than the way we played.
https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-tottenham-premier-league-1430195QuotePaul Lambert is backing his players to survive - with the help of their supporters.
Lambert was genuinely moved by the support of Stoke fans today - not least at the final whistle when they heartily applauded their team off.
Stoke's fourth successive defeat leaves them second bottom and in all kinds of strife, but not without hope says their manager after a performance like this afternoon's.
"I thought we were excellent throughout the game and were up against a really good side," said Lambert.
"I couldn't ask any more than the way we played.
Happy clappy days over then, TV?https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-tottenham-premier-league-1430195QuotePaul Lambert is backing his players to survive - with the help of their supporters.
Lambert was genuinely moved by the support of Stoke fans today - not least at the final whistle when they heartily applauded their team off.
Stoke's fourth successive defeat leaves them second bottom and in all kinds of strife, but not without hope says their manager after a performance like this afternoon's.
"I thought we were excellent throughout the game and were up against a really good side," said Lambert.
"I couldn't ask any more than the way we played.
Just replace Stoke or Stoke’s with Villa or Villa’s and you’d swear it was 2015. Is he looking like a tramp yet?
You would think a relegation clause exists in the contract. I still think there was this type of clause in the Villa contract whereby if they dropped into the bottom 3 he could be sacked, with a much reduced payout. Coates is cannier than the jokers that were in charge of us at the time, so you would expect better planning.
I'm genuinely astonished how low his stock has fallen. To think when we nicked him off Norwich he was an exciting, young, dynamic manager. What the hell happened?
The very mention of Grant Holt's name brings me out in hives
Happy clappy days over then, TV?https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-tottenham-premier-league-1430195QuotePaul Lambert is backing his players to survive - with the help of their supporters.
Lambert was genuinely moved by the support of Stoke fans today - not least at the final whistle when they heartily applauded their team off.
Stoke's fourth successive defeat leaves them second bottom and in all kinds of strife, but not without hope says their manager after a performance like this afternoon's.
"I thought we were excellent throughout the game and were up against a really good side," said Lambert.
"I couldn't ask any more than the way we played.
Just replace Stoke or Stoke’s with Villa or Villa’s and you’d swear it was 2015. Is he looking like a tramp yet?
I'm genuinely astonished how low his stock has fallen. To think when we nicked him off Norwich he was an exciting, young, dynamic manager. What the hell happened?
I genuinely think most of it was hype. He was lucky enough to inherit a couple of players and Grant Holt in particular who were too good for League 1 and the Championship.
I hope they keep him!I was wondering if that would happen.
3 wins in his last 35 premier league games.
Complete and utter clown. Who on earth would touch him now?
I hope they keep him!I was wondering if that would happen.
http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/279168/lambert-out-asap
Sound familiar?
http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/279168/lambert-out-asap
Sound familiar?
He has made it so we look like losing every game. Every point we've got under him has been a struggle, he just doesn't know how to win.
This is by far the worst football we've played in the last 30 years, simply dreadful.
This ****** relegated us, not Hughes.
We were only in the bottom three on goal difference when this twat turned up.
http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/279168/lambert-out-asap
Sound familiar?
Shouldn't laugh but yes, a lot of familiar quotes:QuoteHe has made it so we look like losing every game. Every point we've got under him has been a struggle, he just doesn't know how to win.
This is by far the worst football we've played in the last 30 years, simply dreadful.Quote
This c*** relegated us, not Hughes.
We were only in the bottom three on goal difference when this twat turned up.
Interestingly, a fair few of them are pissed off that he didn't give Stephen Ireland (their only player who can play a forward pass apart from Shaqiri apparently) much of a chance and are wondering if it's to do with their previous at Villa ie the bomb squad.
MotD said he'd never previously taken a club down. What a proud record that must be ::)
MotD said he'd never previously taken a club down. What a proud record that must be ::)
Bet they didn't mention the fact that he begged Lerner to let him leave, having clearly seen the inevitable downward spiral he was conspiring to ensure, before being forced to stay with a bigger pay bump than he could ever have possibly earned, and a contract extension nobody but Randolph actually wanted.
Pulling off the trick of making it seem he worked wonders at Villa is the most Machievellian thing I think I've ever seen at the Villa. For that, despite his coming across decent and humble at times in interviews, I only hope he fails til he's back in Scotland managing Livingston or better still,
Cowdenbeath
Sorry, but this is down to Hughes. His signings are so bad you’d almost think he was trying to ruin clubs on purpose. Did exactly the same at QPR. Stoke will have no decent players left, they’re bolloxed.Hughes would have kept them up.
Pulling off the trick of making it seem he worked wonders at Villa is the most Machievellian thing I think I've ever seen at the Villa. For that, despite his coming across decent and humble at times in interviews, I only hope he fails til he's back in Scotland managing Livingston or better still,
Cowdenbeath
Sorry eamonn, but WTF have Livingston or Cowdenbeath done to deserve the useless twat as their manager???
Sorry, but this is down to Hughes. His signings are so bad you’d almost think he was trying to ruin clubs on purpose. Did exactly the same at QPR. Stoke will have no decent players left, they’re bolloxed.
Does any one know the real problem with Berahnininio ?
Sceptic mumbling genes.
You should take up psychiatry :)Does any one know the real problem with Berahnininio ?
Yes. He's a tosser.
Mainly Sceptic fans I assume.
What were they sceptical about?
I agree Risso. Just a snapshot I know, but the decision to take Crouch off yesterday was evidence of his clueless tactical nous and it cost them the game.
I agree Risso. Just a snapshot I know, but the decision to take Crouch off yesterday was evidence of his clueless tactical nous and it cost them the game.
Crouchy was done. He's not far off 50 now.
I agree Risso. Just a snapshot I know, but the decision to take Crouch off yesterday was evidence of his clueless tactical nous and it cost them the game.
Crouchy was done. He's not far off 50 now.
Crouch wasn't impressed that he was coming off. He is very old to be fair but more likely to score than that disaster of a player who plays next to him.
As mentioned on the other games thread Crouch was linking play and Diouff was anonymous so he takes Crouch off.I agree Risso. Just a snapshot I know, but the decision to take Crouch off yesterday was evidence of his clueless tactical nous and it cost them the game.
Crouchy was done. He's not far off 50 now.
Crouch wasn't impressed that he was coming off. He is very old to be fair but more likely to score than that disaster of a player who plays next to him.
Lambert had money to spend, the squad he inherited wasn’t poor. But Benteke aside what he spent he spent appallingly. Remember that Summer when he signed a ton of cheap players from Europe, El Ahemidi (sic), Tonev, Luna, Holman etc etc, just utter shit. He fucked us completely.
Kozak signing was fucking rubbish. If we had limited money then spunking all of it on someone with a shit record outside of 1 europa league campaign was ridiculous.
Lamberts signings were nearly all attrocious.
Along with Graham Turner the worst Villa manager I have known. You could add McNeill and Garde but they both took on a poisoned chalice.McNeill, TSM and Lambert - all utterly shite.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/30605767
The one that sticks in my mind was a God awful defeat away at Swansea the typical sort of game where we regularly didn’t turn up. Afterwards he was babbling on about how he couldn’t believe we’d lost it like we had fifty attempts on target and three missed penalties.
I don't actively dislike many people. but Lambert's one of them. How can anyone be so utterly useless and become a multi millionaire?
Along with Graham Turner the worst Villa manager I have known. You could add McNeill and Garde but they both took on a poisoned chalice.McNeill, TSM and Lambert - all utterly shite.
Great image from Stoke on Saturday
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/may/07/paul-lambert-stoke-manager-future-contract-clause#img-1
What is it with these London media types? I just caught a bit of Jon Cross on Talkshite saying he’s been unlucky and they’ve definitely improved under him.
Great image from Stoke on Saturday
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/may/07/paul-lambert-stoke-manager-future-contract-clause#img-1
Remember the 8-0 at Chelsea, mate? I'll never forgive him for that. He should have been fired the next day.
Great image from Stoke on Saturday
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/may/07/paul-lambert-stoke-manager-future-contract-clause#img-1
Remember the 8-0 at Chelsea, mate? I'll never forgive him for that. He should have been fired the next day.
I don't actively dislike many people. but Lambert's one of them. How can anyone be so utterly useless and become a multi millionaire?
He's doing it again now. Jack Butland is in the press defending him, saying the squad was crap and he should be given the chance to manage them next year.
1 win in 14 matches!!!
He must be a better hypnotist than Derren Brown to convince this many people he's not utterly useless!
Christmas 2012 v Chelsea/Spuds/Wigan. Lost 15-0. Followed up by January Cup humiliations v Millwall and Bradford. Throw in yet more league defeats v Saints and Newcastle in the same month. Utterly inexcusable and unforgivable.
Christmas 2012 v Chelsea/Spuds/Wigan. Lost 15-0. Followed up by January Cup humiliations v Millwall and Bradford. Throw in yet more league defeats v Saints and Newcastle in the same month. Utterly inexcusable and unforgivable.
We did actually improve in the last two months of that season, maybe by more luck than judgement but we started getting results and were good to watch.
The next season though showed how limited he was as a manager at the top level and we weren't destined for greatness under him.
No different to Sherwood really. Once plan A was nulified there was no other method attempted apart from that bizarre possession based game we attempted when we went 7 games without scoring.
Christmas 2012 v Chelsea/Spuds/Wigan. Lost 15-0. Followed up by January Cup humiliations v Millwall and Bradford. Throw in yet more league defeats v Saints and Newcastle in the same month. Utterly inexcusable and unforgivable.
We did actually improve in the last two months of that season, maybe by more luck than judgement but we started getting results and were good to watch.
The next season though showed how limited he was as a manager at the top level and we weren't destined for greatness under him.
No different to Sherwood really. Once plan A was nulified there was no other method attempted apart from that bizarre possession based game we attempted when we went 7 games without scoring.
This is the key thing, we can look back at that christmas as a point when he should've gone but the truth is February to May that season we looked like he'd eventually worked it out. The following summer we needed to add 2-3 quality players (a wide attacking player to compete with Gabby and Weimann, an upgrade on Westwood and a better Left back), instead he went on a European spree of gambles for about 7-8 players, seemingly on the basis that Benteke had worked out well so he could do it again. When we were still in the shit that Christmas was the time to bin him because he'd shown he didn't have it in him by then.
He must have had more ‘should have been sacked just for that result’ moments than any other Manager in our history.
He must have had more ‘should have been sacked just for that result’ moments than any other Manager in our history.
Exactly, most people could probably name 6 or 7 sack-worthy results off the top of their heads that he got away with. I still can't believe he had so many second chances and still managed to fuck things up - the perfect combination of a know-nothing owner and a truly terrible manager. And how many negative records did he break? actually, don't remind me. Never again.
Strange, but the feeling after the Chelsea 7-1 humping under O'Neill was nothing like the horrible feeling after the 8-0 loss, can't explain why.
Christmas 2012 v Chelsea/Spuds/Wigan. Lost 15-0. Followed up by January Cup humiliations v Millwall and Bradford. Throw in yet more league defeats v Saints and Newcastle in the same month. Utterly inexcusable and unforgivable.
We did actually improve in the last two months of that season, maybe by more luck than judgement but we started getting results and were good to watch.
The next season though showed how limited he was as a manager at the top level and we weren't destined for greatness under him.
No different to Sherwood really. Once plan A was nulified there was no other method attempted apart from that bizarre possession based game we attempted when we went 7 games without scoring.
This is the key thing, we can look back at that christmas as a point when he should've gone but the truth is February to May that season we looked like he'd eventually worked it out. The following summer we needed to add 2-3 quality players (a wide attacking player to compete with Gabby and Weimann, an upgrade on Westwood and a better Left back), instead he went on a European spree of gambles for about 7-8 players, seemingly on the basis that Benteke had worked out well so he could do it again. When we were still in the shit that Christmas was the time to bin him because he'd shown he didn't have it in him by then.
All in hindsight of course, but he had well overstayed his welcome by the end of his second season.
He must have had more ‘should have been sacked just for that result’ moments than any other Manager in our history.
Exactly, most people could probably name 6 or 7 sack-worthy results off the top of their heads that he got away with. I still can't believe he had so many second chances and still managed to fuck things up - the perfect combination of a know-nothing owner and a truly terrible manager. And how many negative records did he break? actually, don't remind me. Never again.
Strange, but the feeling after the Chelsea 7-1 humping under O'Neill was nothing like the horrible feeling after the 8-0 loss, can't explain why.
7-1 is a score that happens every now and again in top flight football, when one team has a bad day and everything goes perfectly for the other, see us v Wimbledon for example. 8-0 just feels like a different sort of embarassment altogether.
Great image from Stoke on Saturday
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/may/07/paul-lambert-stoke-manager-future-contract-clause#img-1
Remember the 8-0 at Chelsea, mate? I'll never forgive him for that. He should have been fired the next day.
Should MON have been fired for the 7-1 defeat there with a much better side?
Hindsight is great but at the time it was our first defeat in 7, we'd just smashed Liverpool at Anfield, and were in a cup semi final with a near bye to the final.
Lambert is or has been the latest 'fashion manager'. By that I mean he is or rather was the latest new thing. A successful playing career with Celtic and then with Dortmund which resulted in the big cup. Obviously with this playing experience he learnt a thing or two at what was the latest 'fashion club' - Dortmund and the Dortmund way of playing. As a manager he would bring some of that style combined with his own experience to any managerial role. We know this because he mumbled it so. We were all sucked in by it because of his middling success at Norwich. "If he can do that with them just think what he could do for us with a bit of cash"? That's what we thought and that's what Lerner thought. The club would now be in safe hands at last. Lerner wouldn't need to attend games to see what was actually going on because he had a trusted steed who would report back that we were often "brilliant"/"excellent" even "outstanding" despite the results and the many humiliations. We muddled on he mumbled on meaning we probably muddled that bit more.
Watching his antics on Saturday on TV, with him track-suited up waving his arms around like a plane propeller taking occasional sips of water, pointing at nothing in particular - all the actions of someone uncomfortable in what they were doing trying to convince us otherwise. He's Stoke's problem now but won't be for much longer I'm sure.
Lambert is or has been the latest 'fashion manager'. By that I mean he is or rather was the latest new thing. A successful playing career with Celtic and then with Dortmund which resulted in the big cup. Obviously with this playing experience he learnt a thing or two at what was the latest 'fashion club' - Dortmund and the Dortmund way of playing. As a manager he would bring some of that style combined with his own experience to any managerial role. We know this because he mumbled it so. We were all sucked in by it because of his middling success at Norwich. "If he can do that with them just think what he could do for us with a bit of cash"? That's what we thought and that's what Lerner thought. The club would now be in safe hands at last. Lerner wouldn't need to attend games to see what was actually going on because he had a trusted steed who would report back that we were often "brilliant"/"excellent" even "outstanding" despite the results and the many humiliations. We muddled on he mumbled on meaning we probably muddled that bit more.
Watching his antics on Saturday on TV, with him track-suited up waving his arms around like a plane propeller taking occasional sips of water, pointing at nothing in particular - all the actions of someone uncomfortable in what they were doing trying to convince us otherwise. He's Stoke's problem now but won't be for much longer I'm sure.
He was a fashionable manager at the time of his appointment and had done very well at Norwich getting back-to-back promotions and a solid season in the top flight. On that basis, I don't think his appointment was a bad one, but he soon got found out and should have gone far sooner than he did.
Lambert is or has been the latest 'fashion manager'. By that I mean he is or rather was the latest new thing. A successful playing career with Celtic and then with Dortmund which resulted in the big cup. Obviously with this playing experience he learnt a thing or two at what was the latest 'fashion club' - Dortmund and the Dortmund way of playing. As a manager he would bring some of that style combined with his own experience to any managerial role. We know this because he mumbled it so. We were all sucked in by it because of his middling success at Norwich. "If he can do that with them just think what he could do for us with a bit of cash"? That's what we thought and that's what Lerner thought. The club would now be in safe hands at last. Lerner wouldn't need to attend games to see what was actually going on because he had a trusted steed who would report back that we were often "brilliant"/"excellent" even "outstanding" despite the results and the many humiliations. We muddled on he mumbled on meaning we probably muddled that bit more.
Watching his antics on Saturday on TV, with him track-suited up waving his arms around like a plane propeller taking occasional sips of water, pointing at nothing in particular - all the actions of someone uncomfortable in what they were doing trying to convince us otherwise. He's Stoke's problem now but won't be for much longer I'm sure.
He was a fashionable manager at the time of his appointment and had done very well at Norwich getting back-to-back promotions and a solid season in the top flight. On that basis, I don't think his appointment was a bad one, but he soon got found out and should have gone far sooner than he did.
Based on the job he did at Norwich he was highly rated and rightly so concerning what he did there. My concern was the bang average to poor jobs he had done everywhere else he had been at before Norwich. And that has continued ever since Norwich.
Based on the job he did at Norwich he was highly rated and rightly so concerning what he did there. My concern was the bang average to poor jobs he had done everywhere else he had been at before Norwich. And that has continued ever since Norwich.
If you take almost any side and stick a top class (for the relevant level) in it, it will make the rest of the side and the manager look better. Look at Brendan Rodgers with Suarez.
Watching his antics on Saturday on TV, with him track-suited up waving his arms around like a plane propeller taking occasional sips of water, pointing at nothing in particular - all the actions of someone uncomfortable in what they were doing trying to convince us otherwise. He's Stoke's problem now but won't be for much longer I'm sure.
I lost patience with him when he just kept telling us how good we were when we all knew we were shit
Great image from Stoke on Saturday
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/may/07/paul-lambert-stoke-manager-future-contract-clause#img-1
Remember the 8-0 at Chelsea, mate? I'll never forgive him for that. He should have been fired the next day.
Should MON have been fired for the 7-1 defeat there with a much better side?
Hindsight is great but at the time it was our first defeat in 7, we'd just smashed Liverpool at Anfield, and were in a cup semi final with a near bye to the final.
But the big picture is that the Chelsea defeat under MON came in a run of three consecutive top six finishes. Under Lambert we finished 15th twice and were 18th when he was sacked. So the contexts of the Chelsea defeats under each manager were totally different.
Lambert is or has been the latest 'fashion manager'. By that I mean he is or rather was the latest new thing. A successful playing career with Celtic and then with Dortmund which resulted in the big cup. Obviously with this playing experience he learnt a thing or two at what was the latest 'fashion club' - Dortmund and the Dortmund way of playing. As a manager he would bring some of that style combined with his own experience to any managerial role. We know this because he mumbled it so. We were all sucked in by it because of his middling success at Norwich. "If he can do that with them just think what he could do for us with a bit of cash"? That's what we thought and that's what Lerner thought. The club would now be in safe hands at last. Lerner wouldn't need to attend games to see what was actually going on because he had a trusted steed who would report back that we were often "brilliant"/"excellent" even "outstanding" despite the results and the many humiliations. We muddled on he mumbled on meaning we probably muddled that bit more.
Watching his antics on Saturday on TV, with him track-suited up waving his arms around like a plane propeller taking occasional sips of water, pointing at nothing in particular - all the actions of someone uncomfortable in what they were doing trying to convince us otherwise. He's Stoke's problem now but won't be for much longer I'm sure.
He was a fashionable manager at the time of his appointment and had done very well at Norwich getting back-to-back promotions and a solid season in the top flight. On that basis, I don't think his appointment was a bad one, but he soon got found out and should have gone far sooner than he did.
Based on the job he did at Norwich he was highly rated and rightly so concerning what he did there. My concern was the bang average to poor jobs he had done everywhere else he had been at before Norwich. And that has continued ever since Norwich.
Together with Roberto Martinez and Brendan Rogers Paul Lambert was meant to be the new "Golden Generation" of managers.
As regards the jobs Paul Lambert had done elsewhere was he not very good in the post he had before Norwich?
Lambert is or has been the latest 'fashion manager'. By that I mean he is or rather was the latest new thing. A successful playing career with Celtic and then with Dortmund which resulted in the big cup. Obviously with this playing experience he learnt a thing or two at what was the latest 'fashion club' - Dortmund and the Dortmund way of playing. As a manager he would bring some of that style combined with his own experience to any managerial role. We know this because he mumbled it so. We were all sucked in by it because of his middling success at Norwich. "If he can do that with them just think what he could do for us with a bit of cash"? That's what we thought and that's what Lerner thought. The club would now be in safe hands at last. Lerner wouldn't need to attend games to see what was actually going on because he had a trusted steed who would report back that we were often "brilliant"/"excellent" even "outstanding" despite the results and the many humiliations. We muddled on he mumbled on meaning we probably muddled that bit more.
Watching his antics on Saturday on TV, with him track-suited up waving his arms around like a plane propeller taking occasional sips of water, pointing at nothing in particular - all the actions of someone uncomfortable in what they were doing trying to convince us otherwise. He's Stoke's problem now but won't be for much longer I'm sure.
He was a fashionable manager at the time of his appointment and had done very well at Norwich getting back-to-back promotions and a solid season in the top flight. On that basis, I don't think his appointment was a bad one, but he soon got found out and should have gone far sooner than he did.
Based on the job he did at Norwich he was highly rated and rightly so concerning what he did there. My concern was the bang average to poor jobs he had done everywhere else he had been at before Norwich. And that has continued ever since Norwich.
Together with Roberto Martinez and Brendan Rogers Paul Lambert was meant to be the new "Golden Generation" of managers.
As regards the jobs Paul Lambert had done elsewhere was he not very good in the post he had before Norwich?
What's the big attraction with our last manager but three?
We won one game from beating Chelsea in mid March that season. Drew one and lost 7. He was getting dogs abuse at Spurs on the final day and should have been sacked.
Quarter of a season and 4 points, utterly inept.
We won one game from beating Chelsea in mid March that season. Drew one and lost 7. He was getting dogs abuse at Spurs on the final day and should have been sacked.
Quarter of a season and 4 points, utterly inept.
7% win rate at Stoke
Hope they keep him .
I noticed he was at Villa for nearly 3 years so why did it feel like he was here for about ten years
7% win rate at Stoke
Hope they keep him .
I noticed he was at Villa for nearly 3 years so why did it feel like he was here for about ten years
Our long goalless runs did that. Didn't we have a run of six games without a goal and then the next season we win seven games without one?!
That's why I can never understand why on here and elsewhere Sherwood gets more stick. Yes we were poor under him aswell but we did have memorable games under him and he was only here eight months so it was all over pretty quickly compared to Lambert.
The one thing about Sherwood was he had the ego for the size of job unfortunately none of the ability. He got the new manager bounce and somehow got us to a Cup Final and kept us up and for that I’ll always be grateful to him. His true ability shone through the season after with the collapse at Leicester and what followed.
The one thing about Sherwood was he had the ego for the size of job unfortunately none of the ability. He got the new manager bounce and somehow got us to a Cup Final and kept us up and for that I’ll always be grateful to him. His true ability shone through the season after with the collapse at Leicester and what followed.
The one thing about Sherwood was he had the ego for the size of job unfortunately none of the ability. He got the new manager bounce and somehow got us to a Cup Final and kept us up and for that I’ll always be grateful to him. His true ability shone through the season after with the collapse at Leicester and what followed.
Of course but at least it was over soon after (albeit the damage had been done with our transfer dealings).
If Lambert had got us to 2013 Carling cup final Lerner would've probably given him a ten year deal!
The one thing about Sherwood was he had the ego for the size of job unfortunately none of the ability. He got the new manager bounce and somehow got us to a Cup Final and kept us up and for that I’ll always be grateful to him. His true ability shone through the season after with the collapse at Leicester and what followed.
I always wonder what would have happened If we had won that Leicester game.
I thank him for the albion and liverpool cup games as there had been so much shit for years up to then .
The one thing about Sherwood was he had the ego for the size of job unfortunately none of the ability. He got the new manager bounce and somehow got us to a Cup Final and kept us up and for that I’ll always be grateful to him. His true ability shone through the season after with the collapse at Leicester and what followed.
Of course but at least it was over soon after (albeit the damage had been done with our transfer dealings).
If Lambert had got us to 2013 Carling cup final Lerner would've probably given him a ten year deal!
And if he’d won the League Cup could you have blamed him? Ultimately we’re in this to win stuff, it’s what this club should be about. Maybe my expectations are too high but I expect this club if run and managed well to be top half of the Premier League each season and competitive in Cup competitions and qualifying for Europe on a regular basis. The last 7 seasons have been torture.
Christian Benteke was placed on Aston Villa’s scouting database by Alex McLeish, BirminghamLive can reveal.
Paul Lambert signed the Belgian striker in 2012 for £6million from Genk - but it was actually his fellow Scot McLeish who identified Benteke.
Benteke, who now plies his trade for Crystal Palace after his £30m switch to Liverpool backfired, spent three years at Villa Park and scored the goals to preserve their top flight status under Lambert and, latterly, Tim Sherwood.
But it wasn’t Lambert or scout Paddy Riley who pinpointed Benteke as a potential target. McLeish marked him out as one to watch shortly after he made the ill-fated move across the Second City from Birmingham City.
McLeish, now manager of Scotland, was bemused to arrive at Villa and discover the club hadn’t implemented a scouting database to keep tabs on targets from across the globe.
Benteke, who scored 49 goals in 101 appearances in claret and blue, was put forward to McLeish by scout Arthur Numan.
Numan watched Benteke regularly whilst he was playing for Genk - a club McLeish would later manage - and thought Villa could grab themselves a bargain.
McLeish’s appointment at Villa Park came at a time when owner Randy Lerner was reining in the spending. Previous managers Martin O’Neill and Gerard Houllier had been backed heavily in the transfer market and Lerner demanded cuts were made.
McLeish was asked to reduce the wage bill and decided to expand Villa’s scouting horizons in the hope of snaring a few gems.
The decision to include Benteke’s name on the database he installed and ensure Numan and other scouts continued to watch the 6ft 4in frontman was key in the club’s decision to sign him.
Papiss Cisse, who eventually joined Newcastle United and fired them to a fifth-placed finish, was another player on the database, as was Gylfi Sigurdsson.
I have no doubt in my mind about that. That day, that one solitary day, if we'd held on for the win, we'd have stayed up, and Leicester wouldn't even have troubled the top four, let alone won the frickin league.
I think Sherwood would have been better off with a different transfer policy. He'd have got a tune out of that nutter Adebayor and then a few over priced ex-Spurs like Townsend and Huddlestone would have done the meat and veg 442 trick.
He didn't know how to handle the foreign players, it was clear they'd been signed without a thought of blending them in. He ok'd everyone, I don't believe otherwise, but equally I don't think he knew a thing about them either. But at the same time, it's clear Reilly didn't do his homework on them.
I liked Sherwood. He didn't have the nous and would have benefited from somebody very tactically astute alongside him. But his ego wouldnt allow for that and his Machiavellian way of stabbing AVB in the back to secure the Spurs job is evidence of it.
I will always have a bit of time for the charlatan though, as football is about fun and for a few brief months in half a decade of shite, Villa were back.
If we'd won at Leicester I think confidence would have seen us through perhaps and they wouldn't have won the title.
I have no doubt in my mind about that. That day, that one solitary day, if we'd held on for the win, we'd have stayed up, and Leicester wouldn't even have troubled the top four, let alone won the frickin league.
I have no doubt in my mind about that. That day, that one solitary day, if we'd held on for the win, we'd have stayed up, and Leicester wouldn't even have troubled the top four, let alone won the frickin league.
I can't say I agree. I don't think the common theory that both club's seasons hinged on that day stands up. Particularly as it came so early in the season.
As for Sherwood he deserves great credit for keeping us up and getting us to the final. As for 'surrendering' the final Arsenal were quite simply a far better team than us. Unlike the Chelsea final when the teams were more evenly matched. I was slightly surprised that Sherwood was sacked so early in the season. Obviously in hindsight we ended up being so bad you suspect he couldn't have done any worse than Garde and Black, but that doesn't necessarily mean he would have done much better. His time at Spurs and Villa suggest he is a short term impact manager but not one for the medium to long term.
WengerI have no doubt in my mind about that. That day, that one solitary day, if we'd held on for the win, we'd have stayed up, and Leicester wouldn't even have troubled the top four, let alone won the frickin league.
I can't say I agree. I don't think the common theory that both club's seasons hinged on that day stands up. Particularly as it came so early in the season.
As for Sherwood he deserves great credit for keeping us up and getting us to the final. As for 'surrendering' the final Arsenal were quite simply a far better team than us. Unlike the Chelsea final when the teams were more evenly matched. I was slightly surprised that Sherwood was sacked so early in the season. Obviously in hindsight we ended up being so bad you suspect he couldn't have done any worse than Garde and Black, but that doesn't necessarily mean he would have done much better. His time at Spurs and Villa suggest he is a short term impact manager but not one for the medium to long term.
Of course Arsenal were always going to win but we didn't have a shot or a corner which said it all for our approach or lack of it. 12 months before Hull took largely the same 11 to extra time before losing....wonder which dinosaur manager was in charge that day....
I have no doubt in my mind about that. That day, that one solitary day, if we'd held on for the win, we'd have stayed up, and Leicester wouldn't even have troubled the top four, let alone won the frickin league.
I can't say I agree. I don't think the common theory that both club's seasons hinged on that day stands up. Particularly as it came so early in the season.
As for Sherwood he deserves great credit for keeping us up and getting us to the final. As for 'surrendering' the final Arsenal were quite simply a far better team than us. Unlike the Chelsea final when the teams were more evenly matched. I was slightly surprised that Sherwood was sacked so early in the season. Obviously in hindsight we ended up being so bad you suspect he couldn't have done any worse than Garde and Black, but that doesn't necessarily mean he would have done much better. His time at Spurs and Villa suggest he is a short term impact manager but not one for the medium to long term.
Yes we stood off Arsenal but they were also fantastic that day.
For us to have won, we needed to be brilliant and they needed to have an off day - in reality, the opposite happened.
Yes we stood off Arsenal but they were also fantastic that day.
For us to have won, we needed to be brilliant and they needed to have an off day - in reality, the opposite happened.
There was a general player lethargy which could be attributed to stage fright (I don't buy that) or something that Sherwood did or said before the game that pissed them off.Yes we stood off Arsenal but they were also fantastic that day.
For us to have won, we needed to be brilliant and they needed to have an off day - in reality, the opposite happened.
Arsenal were fantastic because we put up no resistance what so ever, Arsenal are are good team I'm not denying that but are famous for not coping with resistance (see why they hate stoke so much). For us to have had a chance to beat them we'd have had to put up a fight, The team was capable if it as it wasn't long previously that we'd beaten them 3:1 in there own backyard. Instead we just embarrassed ourselves.
If i'm honest I'd have taken a heavier defeat if it had meant we'd have had a few attempts at goal. I'll never understand what happened with Sherwood that day he was an attacking manager but we didn't bother attacking that day. It was a final where we were huge underdogs we had nothing to lose so why didn't he just throw caution to the wind.
Yes we stood off Arsenal but they were also fantastic that day.
For us to have won, we needed to be brilliant and they needed to have an off day - in reality, the opposite happened.
In 2000 we had entered Gregory's turgid stage but Chelsea were a better team so no disgrace in a narrow defeat even if we didn't land a glove. Our performance against Bolton in the semis was arguably worse, Dean Holdsworth should have won it for them.
I've never watched any of the 2015 final back so I'd completely forgotten about our penalty shouts. Not that they'd have made much difference apart from respectability. I wonder if the tonking at Southampton and losing at home to Burnley before they were brilliant in the two weeks prior knocked the stuffing out of the players, especially after going behind. Bulldog spirit from Sherwood is the one thing we needed from him at that stage but maybe he got spooked too
I must be pissed. someone on talkshite saying Lamberts the man for us ( stoke ), He is a brilliant manager he didnt stand a chance at Villa.
WTF
Really? The FA Cup has been consistently downgraded and the League Cup has regrettably a mere bauble for a while.In 2000 we had entered Gregory's turgid stage but Chelsea were a better team so no disgrace in a narrow defeat even if we didn't land a glove. Our performance against Bolton in the semis was arguably worse, Dean Holdsworth should have won it for them.
I've never watched any of the 2015 final back so I'd completely forgotten about our penalty shouts. Not that they'd have made much difference apart from respectability. I wonder if the tonking at Southampton and losing at home to Burnley before they were brilliant in the two weeks prior knocked the stuffing out of the players, especially after going behind. Bulldog spirit from Sherwood is the one thing we needed from him at that stage but maybe he got spooked too
2010 was our best chance of winning a major final in recent times given we actually took the lead (of course opposition should've been down to 10 aswell).
Certainly wasn't one of the strongest Fergie Man. United teams we've ever faced but as soon as Rooney came on we couldn't handle him and we could've lost by a few more in the end as they hit the woodwork a couple of times.
All this is doing is making me more nervous about a possible play off final. I seem to be one of the few on here who think we'll be o.k v Boro but a final I worry we could freeze in like our recent cup finals at Wembley.
I must be pissed. someone on talkshite saying Lamberts the man for us ( stoke ), He is a brilliant manager he didnt stand a chance at Villa.
WTF
In 2000 we had entered Gregory's turgid stage but Chelsea were a better team so no disgrace in a narrow defeat even if we didn't land a glove. Our performance against Bolton in the semis was arguably worse, Dean Holdsworth should have won it for them.
I've never watched any of the 2015 final back so I'd completely forgotten about our penalty shouts. Not that they'd have made much difference apart from respectability. I wonder if the tonking at Southampton and losing at home to Burnley before they were brilliant in the two weeks prior knocked the stuffing out of the players, especially after going behind. Bulldog spirit from Sherwood is the one thing we needed from him at that stage but maybe he got spooked too
2010 was our best chance of winning a major final in recent times given we actually took the lead (of course opposition should've been down to 10 aswell).
Certainly wasn't one of the strongest Fergie Man. United teams we've ever faced but as soon as Rooney came on we couldn't handle him and we could've lost by a few more in the end as they hit the woodwork a couple of times.
All this is doing is making me more nervous about a possible play off final. I seem to be one of the few on here who think we'll be o.k v Boro but a final I worry we could freeze in like our recent cup finals at Wembley.
Been sacked
Been sacked
I'm sure he'll "go again"
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Stoke gave him a two and a half years contract in January !! Five months in he gets the elbow and loads of compensation. Stoke being run as badly as Villa used to be.
I long for the day when no one cares one iota about this clown - and this thread is locked.
go on west brom , you know you want too .
What a grovelling little toad.Paul also said “during my 15 games here I offered my resignation to the Chairman 5 times and it was rejected. I knew it was a tough job but I didn’t have enough time. I canny reckon another 15 games and I would have definitely won another League game”
Paul would like to thank the board, players and staff for the opportunity and their support. He would also like to thank the fans for their unwavering support. Whilst looking forward to his next challenge, he would like to wish the club every success next season."
I’m not angry just making the point that Lambert has made a very decent living out of being a poor manager.
He could probably buy any league 1 side with the amount of paid up contracts he’s had.
I’m not angry just making the point that Lambert has made a very decent living out of being a poor manager.
Allardyce, Pardew, Moyes, Megson, Lambert, Pulis, Holloway, Schteve are all in the same bag. It's the way football is. Probably add Hughes and Bruce to that list too. Football is a game of who you know, not what you know. These wasters (Sorry Brucie), keep showing up but never seem to settle anywhere for too long. That same roundabout for all of them but I bet they all have far more money that you and me.
I’m not angry just making the point that Lambert has made a very decent living out of being a poor manager.
Allardyce, Pardew, Moyes, Megson, Lambert, Pulis, Holloway, Schteve are all in the same bag. It's the way football is. Probably add Hughes and Bruce to that list too. Football is a game of who you know, not what you know. These wasters (Sorry Brucie), keep showing up but never seem to settle anywhere for too long. That same roundabout for all of them but I bet they all have far more money that you and me.
And one by one, they are all dropping into the Championship.
Cant we lock/delete this thread.....please 😭
Yes all a bit small time
Yes all a bit small time
Personally I preferred MON to Lambert. I preferred being in the top six rather than the bottom six.
Cant we lock/delete this thread.....please 😭
Likeable? The mumbling tramp like chancer.Yes it he was likeable, perhaps because Hughes had gone more and more dour, totally resigned to his fate.
Likeable? The mumbling tramp like chancer.Yes it he was likeable, perhaps because Hughes had gone more and more dour, totally resigned to his fate.
Lambert came in with real passion on the side line, shame it lasted one game! Couldn't tell a word he said though. Oh well, he's gone now, good luck to him.
Paul do 5 live and enjoy your milliions.
Paul do 5 live and enjoy your milliions.
He'd need to be able to enunciate to do that.
Who really gives a fuck?
Who really gives a fuck?
Yeh we need to let this go. Lambert for the most part is a shit part of our recent history. And I couldn’t give a fuck about his future. The useless charlatan.
Who really gives a fuck?
Yeh we need to let this go. Lambert for the most part is a shit part of our recent history. And I couldn’t give a fuck about his future. The useless charlatan.
I will say one thing for him. My son and I got to see loads of goals for the price of our season tickets in the Lambert years. Mostly in the Villa net but plenty of goals nonetheless.Blame Guzan for being a useless tard
Richard Keys cushion face is coming along nicely, the fat faced Coventry prick!I can’t stop laughing at this description, great work Nodge!
The guy is an absolute bag of milk.
I’m surprised it’s taken him so long.
Lambert made the point about the difficulties of the post in a round-table discussion alongside Stuart Pearce and Steve Sidwell about the Villa manager situation after host Geoff Shreeves reported Terry is now the favourite following Thierry Henry’s decision to think about his options.
“No matter how many caps you’ve got or what you’ve won nothing prepares you to go into that hot seat,” Lambert told Sky Sports. “Confrontation finds you as a manager, you don’t go out looking for it every morning. It comes to your door. You get sick of the sight of some players.
“It will start off fresh, then things happen, then the next day, then the next day. You think, ‘this isn’t quite as easy as everyone thinks it is’.
“No matter what you’ve done in your playing career, you have to get results. Villa is a big club with a big expectancy level.”
Nothing wrong with what he’s said there to be fair.
Nothing wrong with what he’s said there to be fair.
Nope, but 'move on for one reason or another' is pretty funny.
Fuck off you c***. You fucking weasel mouthed c***.
"But the expectancy level was really really high, always.
Two fifteenth place finishes, our heaviest top flight defeat in our entire history and losing a two legged cup semi final to a team three divisions below us. Yes Paul I think we did all have slightly higher expectations than all that.
Don't forget he broke the most number of home losses in a season. Only to beat it the next season.Two fifteenth place finishes, our heaviest top flight defeat in our entire history and losing a two legged cup semi final to a team three divisions below us. Yes Paul I think we did all have slightly higher expectations than all that.
Stop! You're triggering my Villa-related PTSD!
Don't forget he broke the most number of home losses in a season. Only to beat it the next season.Two fifteenth place finishes, our heaviest top flight defeat in our entire history and losing a two legged cup semi final to a team three divisions below us. Yes Paul I think we did all have slightly higher expectations than all that.
Stop! You're triggering my Villa-related PTSD!
Don't forget he broke the most number of home losses in a season. Only to beat it the next season.Two fifteenth place finishes, our heaviest top flight defeat in our entire history and losing a two legged cup semi final to a team three divisions below us. Yes Paul I think we did all have slightly higher expectations than all that.
Stop! You're triggering my Villa-related PTSD!
Winner.
That "I begged Randy to fire me" is arguably the shittiest behaviour of any of the many toerags we've employed this decade.
That "I begged Randy to fire me" is arguably the shittiest behaviour of any of the many toerags we've employed this decade.
It shows how monumentally thick he is that he sees fit to boast about it. He clearly thinks it shows him in a sympathetic light, when it really exposes how weak, greedy and morally bankrupt he is. "I knew I wasn't up to it but I carried on anyway". Very noble.
Did anyone actually notice this new style of posession football he was harping on about? Seemed to me one week we were shite and had a little posession, the following week we were shite and had more posession?
Did anyone actually notice this new style of posession football he was harping on about? Seemed to me one week we were shite and had a little posession, the following week we were shite and had more posession?
Has anyone posted the video to that Malaysian Villa fan who flew all the way over to the UK to meet his hero Paul Lambert recently ?
Words fail.
Has anyone posted the video to that Malaysian Villa fan who flew all the way over to the UK to meet his hero Paul Lambert recently ?
Words fail.
https://youtu.be/9djhv_3NEQ8
Sorry. I just had to have a look, and share it.
Wow! As shocked as I am of Jason's view of Paul Lambert - what a nice guy! Got to admire him for travelling all the way from Singapore - 3 times to watch Villa (1 win, 1 draw and the play off final loss). I would love it if he was a member of this forum, it would be amazing to hear from him about his trips and his view of Villa from Singapore.
Has anyone posted the video to that Malaysian Villa fan who flew all the way over to the UK to meet his hero Paul Lambert recently ?
Words fail.
https://youtu.be/9djhv_3NEQ8
Sorry. I just had to have a look, and share it.
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11677/9622651/paul-lambert-aston-villas-new-style-here-to-stay-despite-lack-of-goals (https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11677/9622651/paul-lambert-aston-villas-new-style-here-to-stay-despite-lack-of-goals)
I reckon Lambert must be on royalty payments or something.
Only that can explain why he needs to comment the fuck on everything we do, for some sort of payment.
I never hear him banging on about what goes on at Norwich!
Joe Cole! 'kin 'ell...what was the point?
Joe Cole! 'kin 'ell...what was the point?
That really happened, didn't it?!
What an odd time that was.
Joe Cole! 'kin 'ell...what was the point?It was Tom Fox's new statistical method : MoneyBanana
Joe Cole! 'kin 'ell...what was the point?It was Tom Fox's new statistical method : MoneyBanana
Interestingly : Clicky (https://7500toholte.sbnation.com/2016/5/6/11589704/moneyball-football-soccer-baseball-stats-aston-villa)
Apparantly lined up as the new Ipswich Boss...
Bet Alan Brazil will be happy, British manager who is a good bloke!!??, give him 1 season of Lambert or Bruce & see what he says.
Lambert, just like all of the other useless fuckers on the managerial merry go round. I can guarantee that he along with Fat Sam, will continue to get re employed by gullible assholes, who own clubs, but have not a fucking clue!!!
Lambert, just like all of the other useless fuckers on the managerial merry go round. I can guarantee that he along with Fat Sam, will continue to get re employed by gullible assholes, who own clubs, but have not a fucking clue!!!
A bit harsh on Allardyce, who pretty much always succeeds *at what he does*.
It makes you wonder what these owners see that no one else does. Add to the fact he’s ex Norwich - madness.Lunacy.
Lambert, just like all of the other useless fuckers on the managerial merry go round. I can guarantee that he along with Fat Sam, will continue to get re employed by gullible assholes, who own clubs, but have not a fucking clue!!!
A bit harsh on Allardyce, who pretty much always succeeds *at what he does*.
Which is what exactly?
That is completely insane - feel so sorry for Ipswich fans - except Alan Brazil ;-)
He must be the best interviewee in history because the pap that he turns out on the football field beggars belief. He puts me in mind of all those terrible players we’ve had who you could only assume looked world class in training (Olney, Weimman, Penrice...) because they could barely put their shorts on the right way around come Saturday.
He goes again
It makes you wonder what these owners see that no one else does. Add to the fact he’s ex Norwich - madness.Lunacy.
He must be the best interviewee in history because the pap that he turns out on the football field beggars belief. He puts me in mind of all those terrible players we’ve had who you could only assume looked world class in training (Olney, Weimman, Penrice...) because they could barely put their shorts on the right way around come Saturday.
Harsh on Olney!
He does lengthy PowerPoint interviews apparently and mentions Dortmund and his mate Klopp on numerous occasions
Only in a "here's how not to do it" kind of way.He must be the best interviewee in history because the pap that he turns out on the football field beggars belief. He puts me in mind of all those terrible players we’ve had who you could only assume looked world class in training (Olney, Weimman, Penrice...) because they could barely put their shorts on the right way around come Saturday.
Harsh on Olney!
He does lengthy PowerPoint interviews apparently and mentions Dortmund and his mate Klopp on numerous occasions
I wonder how often Klopp references Lambert in his Liverpool team talks?
Klopp is better than Lambert all round. Including when it comes to speaking English.Lambert has got to be better. It’s obvious, just look at how many jobs he’s achieved.
I think the fact that he is a serial failure is more of a mad decision rather than his previous club.It makes you wonder what these owners see that no one else does. Add to the fact he’s ex Norwich - madness.Lunacy.
Like we'd never appoint an ex Small Heath manager!
We, of course, learned Lambert's failings the hard way. I was really enthusiastic about him at the time. I can forgive those outside of Villa who believe the media line about him having no chance with us because of his budget (it fits the narrative) but leaving all that aside, what in the name of Christ is anybody thinking who looks at his record since he left Norwich and says, "he's our guy"?...
And a reconciliation with the former Mrs Lambert ;)We, of course, learned Lambert's failings the hard way. I was really enthusiastic about him at the time. I can forgive those outside of Villa who believe the media line about him having no chance with us because of his budget (it fits the narrative) but leaving all that aside, what in the name of Christ is anybody thinking who looks at his record since he left Norwich and says, "he's our guy"?...
Maybe they think that the East Anglian air will help him return to the form he showed at Norwich and Colchester.
I can only assume he got the job because Bruce put the phone down on them. You'd think the "premiership club in trouble" gig will go to the likes of Moyes and Fat sam in December, so he must be hoping for the "wheels coming off promotion bandwagon" vacancies post christmas
I can only assume he got the job because Bruce put the phone down on them. You'd think the "premiership club in trouble" gig will go to the likes of Moyes and Fat sam in December, so he must be hoping for the "wheels coming off promotion bandwagon" vacancies post christmas
I was saying this to my lad yesterday. It's Fulham for me, that guy will get canned and replaced by Moyes, Bruce etc. The owners won't be able to help themselves.
That just it though. Lambert was a bloody good player and was coached by some very decent managers. Bruce was very good, managed by arguably the very best of all time. Both utter gash as managers.
That just it though. Lambert was a bloody good player and was coached by some very decent managers. Bruce was very good, managed by arguably the very best of all time. Both utter gash as managers.
McNeill, O’Leary, McLeish, Sherwood and Di Mattieo were all very good players. There’s a theme here.
That just it though. Lambert was a bloody good player and was coached by some very decent managers. Bruce was very good, managed by arguably the very best of all time. Both utter gash as managers.
McNeill, O’Leary, McLeish, Sherwood and Di Mattieo were all very good players. There’s a theme here.
And a good number of the most successful managers in our history were average players at best. Step forward Deano. Be the next SGT.
That just it though. Lambert was a bloody good player and was coached by some very decent managers. Bruce was very good, managed by arguably the very best of all time. Both utter gash as managers.
McNeill, O’Leary, McLeish, Sherwood and Di Mattieo were all very good players. There’s a theme here.
And a good number of the most successful managers in our history were average players at best. Step forward Deano. Be the next SGT.
That just it though. Lambert was a bloody good player and was coached by some very decent managers. Bruce was very good, managed by arguably the very best of all time. Both utter gash as managers.
McNeill, O’Leary, McLeish, Sherwood and Di Mattieo were all very good players. There’s a theme here.
And a good number of the most successful managers in our history were average players at best. Step forward Deano. Be the next SGT.
The first and latest of our managers to win trophies and the most successful were a lot more than average.
My money is on Adkins getting the heave ho from Hull leaving room (and there’ll need to be plenty) for Bruce to rejoin his former club in time for their return match with us at VP. By then let’s hope Smith has us firing and we can make Bruce suffer.
My money is on Adkins getting the heave ho from Hull leaving room (and there’ll need to be plenty) for Bruce to rejoin his former club in time for their return match with us at VP. By then let’s hope Smith has us firing and we can make Bruce suffer.
Doubt it while the Allam family is still the owners.
Got a feeling SB will pop up somewhere like Sheff Weds. Imagine the laughs if Brentford sack the guy who's lost his first three and appoint Bruce. If we thought he was out of his depth here...
Guess which word Lambo used to describe Ipswich's performance last w/end?
Lambert bingo is back on the agenda!
Both the fans got quite excited.
We dust ourselves off and we go again.
Super cautious and badly organised.Is that from Mary Poppins?
Lambert, however, was focusing on the positives. He reflected: “I’ve managed some really good teams and players in my time and that’s as good a first half as I’ve seen. My God, we were fantastic. We looked great and I think we should have been three or four goals to the good.
“It never materialised, but the strides we’ve made as a football team has been huge. I’m proud of them for the way they have performed. They’ve given me everything in the time I’ve been here.
“I think everybody can see we’ve got a good side that just needs a little bit of help.
“You can judge it by the support (more than 1,800 away fans in fine voice throughout). It shows we’re moving in the right direction.”
Lambert, however, was focusing on the positives. He reflected: “I’ve managed some really good teams and players in my time and that’s as good a first half as I’ve seen. My God, we were fantastic. ”
Distractedly watching the highlights on Quest, I may have imagined it but I'm sure he signed off with, "I thought we were excellent".
AGAIN! Shall we keep a tally going?
In the whole game the fantastical Ipswich had 10 shots - 2 less than their opponents and 4 on target.
Super cautious and badly organised.Is that from Mary Poppins?
Super cautious and badly organised.Is that from Mary Poppins?
Genius
Bugger! Half watched football focus today - think the young lad predicted one nil and correct goal scorer. I didn’t hear it was Ipswich!
I’d have stuck money on it.
Bugger! Half watched football focus today - think the young lad predicted one nil and correct goal scorer. I didn’t hear it was Ipswich!
I’d have stuck money on it.
Accrington (13th in League One) were 5/4 favourites to win the game with Ipswich at 7/4 outsiders so both the bookies and the punters clearly know what a shit manager Lambert is. A man who lost a two legged cup semi final to a team three divisions below.
The most embarrassing 4 weeks in our history...
23 Dec 2012 Chelsea v Aston Villa L 8-0 Premier League
26 Dec 2012 Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur L 0-4 Premier League
29 Dec 2012 Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic L 0-3 Premier League
01 Jan 2013 Swansea City v Aston Villa D 2-2 Premier League
05 Jan 2013 Aston Villa v Ipswich Town W 2-1 FA Cup
08 Jan 2013 Bradford City v Aston Villa L 3-1 League Cup
12 Jan 2013 Aston Villa v Southampton L 0-1 Premier League
19 Jan 2013 West Brom v Aston Villa D 2-2 Premier League
22 Jan 2013 Aston Villa v Bradford City W 2-1
Agg: 3-4 League Cup
25 Jan 2013 Millwall v Aston Villa L 2-1 FA Cup
Wouldn't actually have a go for at this one as Ipswich losing stopped our game v them going to midweek.
but of course a significant number of people on here were championing his cause to become Villa's manager !
And Norwich fans still hate us for stealing him from them.
Been on Ipswich forums and it's slowly dawning on the clued up ones what a lemon they've got at the helm.
Oh yeah. He's well thought of round there.😳Been on Ipswich forums and it's slowly dawning on the clued up ones what a lemon they've got at the helm.
I know our country cousins have a reputation for being a tad slow, but slowly dawning....?
but of course a significant number of people on here were championing his cause to become Villa's manager !
Easy. He is a brown nose.
And Norwich fans still hate us for stealing him from them.
Oh how I wish everyone hated us because we were good. Now they just hate us for stealing their shit managers and players and strutting around like we own the world.
And Norwich fans still hate us for stealing him from them.
Oh how I wish everyone hated us because we were good. Now they just hate us for stealing their shit managers and players and strutting around like we own the world.
Been on Ipswich forums and it's slowly dawning on the clued up ones what a lemon they've got at the helm.Ay rekun dis bouy Lambet ain’t all e be cracked to be bouy.
Brierley Hill ?Been on Ipswich forums and it's slowly dawning on the clued up ones what a lemon they've got at the helm.Ay rekun dis bouy Lambet ain’t all e be cracked to be bouy.
Easy. He is a brown nose.
I ended up with a lot of brown stained underwear watching his Villa teams attempts at defending in the Lambert years.
He’s just signed Dawkins again!
I don’t think he’ll see the season out
hope they didn’t give him a long contract
He does have a decent record against his former clubs.
Dawkins! Fuxking hell, I thought he was a mirage. Did we have some dude called Omar Cummings as well? Jesus, between this and Jordan Bowery, what dafuq was he smoking? Wasn't even Benteke a McLeish/scouts signing?
Tony Moon, the man who'd defend with his hands behind his back.
Tony Moon, the man who'd defend with his hands behind his back.
Honestly thought we'd signed a cult hero after that goal v Arsenal.
Two weeks later I quickly realised we hadn't as the concept of one on one defending was beyond him with Ben Arfa taking him to the cleaners.
Tony Moon, the man who'd defend with his hands behind his back.
Tony Moon, the man who'd defend with his hands behind his back.
Honestly thought we'd signed a cult hero after that goal v Arsenal.
Two weeks later I quickly realised we hadn't as the concept of one on one defending was beyond him with Ben Arfa taking him to the cleaners.
Tony Moon, the man who'd defend with his hands behind his back.
Honestly thought we'd signed a cult hero after that goal v Arsenal.
Two weeks later I quickly realised we hadn't as the concept of one on one defending was beyond him with Ben Arfa taking him to the cleaners.
In fairness to Luna he’s playing in the top flight in Spain I think.
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Not according to this fan!
"Just when you thought Paul Lambert couldn't get any better...." is ten words that haven't been typed since around 2012! Fair play for him apparently paying coach travel today.
https://twitter.com/NDSapsed?lang=en
Not according to this fan!
"Just when you thought Paul Lambert couldn't get any better...." is ten words that haven't been typed since around 2012! Fair play for him apparently paying coach travel today.
She supports 3 clubs so what does she know!
https://twitter.com/NDSapsed?lang=en
Not according to this fan!
"Just when you thought Paul Lambert couldn't get any better...." is ten words that haven't been typed since around 2012! Fair play for him apparently paying coach travel today.
Not a chance, we’ll stuff Ipswich, Tammy is going to have a field day
THAT post match interview....What did he say about the fans?
He genuinely believes it, and he managed to get a pop at the fans in as well! We should be thankful we don't have to listen to this deluded prick week after week any more. A charlatan and a coward.
you'd need it translating to know
No, he wasn't. I cannot believe there's even a discussion about the penalty. McGinn was blatantly fouled.
He said something about how the crowd were edgy and he knows how it can get here. In fairness he was right about both penalties but curiously brushed-over the chances we had to finish the game off.There is a clip on YouTube from the lower Holte. It shows a clear foul which is why the crowd all appealed. I’ve seen the highlights and that camera angle didn’t show it clearly. Absolutely definitely no argument penalty.
He said something about how the crowd were edgy and he knows how it can get here. In fairness he was right about both penalties but curiously brushed-over the chances we had to finish the game off.There is a clip on YouTube from the lower Holte. It shows a clear foul which is why the crowd all appealed. I’ve seen the highlights and that camera angle didn’t show it clearly. Absolutely definitely no argument penalty.
He said he thought they were the better team?!
He said he thought they were the better team?!
He said he thought they were the better team?!
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Paul Lambert was left fuming after two controversial decisions went against Blues in the defeat at Villa.
Tammy Abraham scored twice, the second from the penalty spot after Alan Judge was penalised for a foul on John McGinn by referee Keith Stroud.
Collin Quaner then looked to be denied a penalty when his shot hit a Villa hand on the line before Freddie Sears scored from 25 yards.
“We were the better team, that’s the first thing,” the Town boss told iFollow Ipswich.
“Their penalty was never a penalty. Ours is a stonewaller. It hit the guy’s hand. How the referee has given those two decisions I don’t know.
“It was a world class goal from Freddie. Then we hit the post. I thought we dominated the ball.
“Football wise we were very good. The players didn’t deserve that. The decisions went against us. That was really poor. It wasn’t just those two decisions. There were loads of decisions that were strange.
That's quite stunning. How delusional is he?
I joked that Ipswich keeping the ball five yards from their own goal was little more than tactic so Lambert could claim they dominated play. I was joking, I didn't seriously think the clown would actually try and argue it.
He's a moron. Thick as a brick.
That's quite stunning. How delusional is he?
I joked that Ipswich keeping the ball five yards from their own goal was little more than tactic so Lambert could claim they dominated play. I was joking, I didn't seriously think the clown would actually try and argue it.
He's a moron. Thick as a brick.
That's quite stunning. How delusional is he?
I joked that Ipswich keeping the ball five yards from their own goal was little more than tactic so Lambert could claim they dominated play. I was joking, I didn't seriously think the clown would actually try and argue it.
He's a moron. Thick as a brick.
That's quite stunning. How delusional is he?
I joked that Ipswich keeping the ball five yards from their own goal was little more than tactic so Lambert could claim they dominated play. I was joking, I didn't seriously think the clown would actually try and argue it.
He's a moron. Thick as a brick.
Yep he's leapt on the one stat, possession, where they were ahead which fails to tell the tale of where they had possession, i.e. nowhere where it bothered us for the most part. It's just like when he returned from that momentous visit to Dortmund and decided that us keeping the ball, regardless
of whether it remotely trouble the opposition, was a mission worth pursuing. He's fucking barking.
We absolutely destroyed him and whatever potential he had as a manager.I take it this is post-modern humour
We absolutely destroyed him and whatever potential he had as a manager.
We absolutely destroyed him and whatever potential he had as a manager.
Ipswich now look a proper Paul Lambert side.
Ipswich now look a proper Paul Lambert side.
You mean 'excellent but consistently unlucky'.
Ipswich now look a proper Paul Lambert side.
You mean 'excellent but consistently unlucky'.
Exactly. Plus, according to Pep today, "Not a lot in it" after losing 3-0.
We absolutely destroyed him and whatever potential he had as a manager.
Livingston - he won two games in his eight months there.
Wycombe - resigned after losing in the League Two play offs to Stockport
Colchester - one season, finished mid table in League One
Villa - two full seasons and finished 15th both times
Blackburn - finished 15th
Wolves - finished 15th
Stoke - relegated
Ipswich - on course to be relegated
I honestly don't think WE were the problem.
We absolutely destroyed him and whatever potential he had as a manager.
Or we gave him a fantastic opportunity that most managers would kill for and he wasn't up to it.
We absolutely destroyed him and whatever potential he had as a manager.
Livingston - he won two games in his eight months there.
Wycombe - resigned after losing in the League Two play offs to Stockport
Colchester - one season, finished mid table in League One
Villa - two full seasons and finished 15th both times
Blackburn - finished 15th
Wolves - finished 15th
Stoke - relegated
Ipswich - on course to be relegated
I honestly don't think WE were the problem.
Other than Sir Graham Taylor, I honestly can't think of another Manager in my life time who has gone on to do better than when they were at Villa. I have been watching since the Norwich league cup win, care of super Ray Graydon.
Other than Sir Graham Taylor, I honestly can't think of another Manager in my life time who has gone on to do better than when they were at Villa. I have been watching since the Norwich league cup win, care of super Ray Graydon.
Tommy Doherty
Other than Sir Graham Taylor, I honestly can't think of another Manager in my life time who has gone on to do better than when they were at Villa. I have been watching since the Norwich league cup win, care of super Ray Graydon.
According to my dad who supports Colchester Lambert still has the highest win percentage in their history even though he didn't last very long. They hate him for leaving for Norwich.We hate him for leaving Norwich
Other than Sir Graham Taylor, I honestly can't think of another Manager in my life time who has gone on to do better than when they were at Villa. I have been watching since the Norwich league cup win, care of super Ray Graydon.
Tommy Doherty
Who?
Other than Sir Graham Taylor, I honestly can't think of another Manager in my life time who has gone on to do better than when they were at Villa. I have been watching since the Norwich league cup win, care of super Ray Graydon.
Tommy Doherty
Who?
You know, The Doh!
At the time we got him Martinez and Rodgers were available and we all thought we got the best one........oh how we laughed.
At the time we got him Martinez and Rodgers were available and we all thought we got the best one........oh how we laughed.
I remember at the time I very much wanted Rodgers. I wasn't massively keen on Lambert but I did however prefer him to Martinez at the time.
At the time we got him Martinez and Rodgers were available and we all thought we got the best one........oh how we laughed.
According to my dad who supports Colchester Lambert still has the highest win percentage in their history even though he didn't last very long. They hate him for leaving for Norwich.We hate him for leaving Norwich
At the time we got him Martinez and Rodgers were available and we all thought we got the best one........oh how we laughed.
I remember at the time I very much wanted Rodgers. I wasn't massively keen on Lambert but I did however prefer him to Martinez at the time.
I still think it was a decent enough appointment at the time. He stock was pretty high at the time and he was a young, up and coming manager. He started off badly though and things took a real turn for the worse over the Christmas period and into the new year. We did pick up at the end of that season though and ended quite strongly, culminating in that demolition of Sunderland.
We started the next season well, winning at Arsenal and running Chelsea very close at Stamford Bridge. It couldn't be maintained though and we were a shambles by the end of that season both on and off the pitch (his backroom team, Karsa and Culverhouse, being sacked for their behaviour) and he should have gone then. I still believe the decision to keep him on that summer inflicted real damage on the club.
In short, seemed like a decent enough choice at the time and did OK in short patches, but was kept on far too long when it was obvious he was out of his depth.
At the time we got him Martinez and Rodgers were available and we all thought we got the best one........oh how we laughed.
Rodgers had gone to Liverpool.
I spoke at length with a Norwich fan shortly after he was appointed. The general view was that he was an excellent manager, would do really well for us and the majority of his Norwich supporting friends were gutted he was leaving.
He doesn't deserve some of the shit he gets on here IMO. Manager over a awful ownership, did the best he did but nowhere near good enough. It happensI spoke at length with a Norwich fan shortly after he was appointed. The general view was that he was an excellent manager, would do really well for us and the majority of his Norwich supporting friends were gutted he was leaving.
Yes, Lee.
He was well regarded at the time by most analysts and there were times when many of us thought he would move the club forward, but it was not to be.
In the end, by his own admission, he was presiding over a deleveraging operation at the behest of Randy Lerner and mumbling incessant gobbledygook, to our justified chagrin.
Paul's thoughts on his team today against Baggies, according to bbc sport page: I thought the whole team was excellent.
Well there's a surprise!
Paul's thoughts on his team today against Baggies, according to bbc sport page: I thought the whole team was excellent.
Well there's a surprise!
He's probably right for once. 20 odd shots and battered them according to my Baggies mate.
He doesn't deserve some of the shit he gets on here IMO. Manager over a awful ownership, did the best he did but nowhere near good enough. It happensI spoke at length with a Norwich fan shortly after he was appointed. The general view was that he was an excellent manager, would do really well for us and the majority of his Norwich supporting friends were gutted he was leaving.
Yes, Lee.
He was well regarded at the time by most analysts and there were times when many of us thought he would move the club forward, but it was not to be.
In the end, by his own admission, he was presiding over a deleveraging operation at the behest of Randy Lerner and mumbling incessant gobbledygook, to our justified chagrin.
A coach/manager must have ruthless belief and total self confidence. Once they compromise that they are toast as did Lambert.
He doesn't deserve some of the shit he gets on here IMO. Manager over a awful ownership, did the best he did but nowhere near good enough. It happensI spoke at length with a Norwich fan shortly after he was appointed. The general view was that he was an excellent manager, would do really well for us and the majority of his Norwich supporting friends were gutted he was leaving.
Yes, Lee.
He was well regarded at the time by most analysts and there were times when many of us thought he would move the club forward, but it was not to be.
In the end, by his own admission, he was presiding over a deleveraging operation at the behest of Randy Lerner and mumbling incessant gobbledygook, to our justified chagrin.
A young and hungry (ha!) manager keen to really make a mark would have worked within the limitations and still not delivered a side as dull and unimaginative as that. Many other managers did. How much did Rodgers have to spend at Swansea, Martinez at Wigan and so on and so forth.
Continuous relegation scraps were not inevitable with (a) the side he inherited and (b) the money he had to spend.
Just read that he has won 3 out of 27 matches there, so unlikely. That would mean back to back relegations for Lambert.
Just read that he has won 3 out of 27 matches there, so unlikely. That would mean back to back relegations for Lambert.
I don't know why he keeps getting relegated.
He just does.
Just read that he has won 3 out of 27 matches there, so unlikely. That would mean back to back relegations for Lambert.The fucker has had 27 matches to turn it around?
How many pay-offs has he had?
Still not forgiven them for their IRA chants after 74.
Alan Brazil isn't happy to see them relegated.
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Alan Brazil isn't happy to see them relegated.
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Alan Brazil is probably pissed up on an all dayer and will wake up to the news tomorrow lunchtime.
Have we heard words of wisdom from Lambo yet? They must be the most excellent team in Championship history to get relegated.
To think the stupid fuckers forced Mad Mick out. Serves them right to a) get that berk Lambert and b) go down. Bye bye tractor boys and your shit-tip of an away end.
Still not forgiven them for their IRA chants after 74.Me to, tractor driving wankers.
They got the Shrewsbury manager in the summer who'd done a very good job the previous year and sacked him after a dozen games or so. They appoint that waste of space and give him twice the amount of time with no improvement in results. Go figure.
The thing that gets forgotten about Lambert is that when he was here, after his first (unimpressive) year, he retained huge levels of support from our fans. There was a huge amount of patience for what he was trying to do.
I think the mistake he made was becoming a poster boy for the austere times Lerner was inflicting on us. Once he made that change it was like he accepted and defended mediocrity, on the basis that he could get away with it.
In the 40 plus years I've been watching us, I've seen some pretty fucking depressing things at villa park but nothing, not even McNeill or McLeish tops the sheet austere grimness of looking at our bench and seeing Lambert and Roy Keane sat there, grim faced with matching unkempt beards, looking like a pair of piss soaked tramps thinking about chucking themselves under a bus to make it all end.
Lambert had all that goodwill and he threw it away.
The thing that gets forgotten about Lambert is that when he was here, after his first (unimpressive) year, he retained huge levels of support from our fans. There was a huge amount of patience for what he was trying to do.
I think the mistake he made was becoming a poster boy for the austere times Lerner was inflicting on us. Once he made that change it was like he accepted and defended mediocrity, on the basis that he could get away with it.
In the 40 plus years I've been watching us, I've seen some pretty fucking depressing things at villa park but nothing, not even McNeill or McLeish tops the sheet austere grimness of looking at our bench and seeing Lambert and Roy Keane sat there, grim faced with matching unkempt beards, looking like a pair of piss soaked tramps thinking about chucking themselves under a bus to make it all end.
Lambert had all that goodwill and he threw it away.
The thing that gets forgotten about Lambert is that when he was here, after his first (unimpressive) year, he retained huge levels of support from our fans. There was a huge amount of patience for what he was trying to do.
I think the mistake he made was becoming a poster boy for the austere times Lerner was inflicting on us. Once he made that change it was like he accepted and defended mediocrity, on the basis that he could get away with it.
In the 40 plus years I've been watching us, I've seen some pretty fucking depressing things at villa park but nothing, not even McNeill or McLeish tops the sheet austere grimness of looking at our bench and seeing Lambert and Roy Keane sat there, grim faced with matching unkempt beards, looking like a pair of piss soaked tramps thinking about chucking themselves under a bus to make it all end.
Lambert had all that goodwill and he threw it away.
Is this the image you're referring to, Paulie?
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Consecutive Years in division before TSM mk2 appointedYes danno. Ended Stokes’ 10 year stay in PL and Ipswich’s 17 years in the Championship.
The thing that gets forgotten about Lambert is that when he was here, after his first (unimpressive) year, he retained huge levels of support from our fans. There was a huge amount of patience for what he was trying to do.
I think the mistake he made was becoming a poster boy for the austere times Lerner was inflicting on us. Once he made that change it was like he accepted and defended mediocrity, on the basis that he could get away with it.
In the 40 plus years I've been watching us, I've seen some pretty fucking depressing things at villa park but nothing, not even McNeill or McLeish tops the sheet austere grimness of looking at our bench and seeing Lambert and Roy Keane sat there, grim faced with matching unkempt beards, looking like a pair of piss soaked tramps thinking about chucking themselves under a bus to make it all end.
Lambert had all that goodwill and he threw it away.
Is this the image you're referring to, Paulie?
(https://i.ibb.co/7NdSpbG/Screenshot-20190414-091702-2.png) (https://ibb.co/7NdSpbG)
I was one of the very last to turn on him. I have no idea what I was thinking.
Signing players that we can develop and improve isn't a bad idea in itself. Westwood Bacuna Lawton Bennett are all (just about) still in the premier league.
The problem was we didn't supplement them with really good senior pros and some simply weren't ready. I had another look at some of our transfer windows, its not pretty.
One for the forgot he played for us thread, but I didn't know he'd signed Simon Dawkins for Ipswich. They must have the same agent or something.
Signing players that we can develop and improve isn't a bad idea in itself. Westwood Bacuna Lawton Bennett are all (just about) still in the premier league.
The problem was we didn't supplement them with really good senior pros and some simply weren't ready. I had another look at some of our transfer windows, its not pretty.
One for the forgot he played for us thread, but I didn't know he'd signed Simon Dawkins for Ipswich. They must have the same agent or something.
Is that the same Dawkins who appears in the media and reckons there isn't a God? It was during Lambert's reign at Villa that I became convinced there wasn't a God either.
I was one of the very last to turn on him. I have no idea what I was thinking.
And me. I was with him right up to that Hull game. I was done after that and, luckily, so was the board.
I was one of the very last to turn on him. I have no idea what I was thinking.
And me. I was with him right up to that Hull game. I was done after that and, luckily, so was the board.
Same here. I admit I thought he was a better manager than his subsequent career suggests . On the other hand I'm not sure that having the fans on his back was helpful in any way - the real problem was RL pulling the plug on Villa to fund his divorce. If not for that we'd have had a better manager than Lambert in the first place, as well as a far better squad.
I have already listed his career in detail on H&V in the past. Basically apart from Norwich he has been a failure everywhere else.
I have already listed his career in detail on H&V in the past. Basically apart from Norwich he has been a failure everywhere else.
I get that, but if you're only going to have one success then consecutive promotions followed by a mid-table PL finish is a good one to pick!
I have already listed his career in detail on H&V in the past. Basically apart from Norwich he has been a failure everywhere else.
I get that, but if you're only going to have one success then consecutive promotions followed by a mid-table PL finish is a good one to pick!
Phil Brown, Ian Dowie, Ian Holloway - file next to them
I have already listed his career in detail on H&V in the past. Basically apart from Norwich he has been a failure everywhere else.
I get that, but if you're only going to have one success then consecutive promotions followed by a mid-table PL finish is a good one to pick!
Phil Brown, Ian Dowie, Ian Holloway - file next to them
I have already listed his career in detail on H&V in the past. Basically apart from Norwich he has been a failure everywhere else.
I get that, but if you're only going to have one success then consecutive promotions followed by a mid-table PL finish is a good one to pick!
Phil Brown, Ian Dowie, Ian Holloway - file next to them
I don't think any of them did that, did they (I'm not being precious, I don't pay much attention)?
Dowie was the studio commentator on the Sky coverage of the Bolton game yesterday.I have already listed his career in detail on H&V in the past. Basically apart from Norwich he has been a failure everywhere else.
I get that, but if you're only going to have one success then consecutive promotions followed by a mid-table PL finish is a good one to pick!
Phil Brown, Ian Dowie, Ian Holloway - file next to them
I don't think any of them did that, did they (I'm not being precious, I don't pay much attention)?
Like him they overacheived for a short period of time inlcuding promotions - banished to the netherworlds thereafter.
Can Paul Jewell be added that list?
Surely his biggest failing was being pictured with that bird on top of his car?
i get why people don't like Lambert, he annoyed me too, but compared to O'Neill who wasted a fortune then actively sabotaged us, I find it hard to get too upset about him. He was also more respectful in his pre and post match interviews than professional moaner Spudfaceosaurus.Lambert repeatedly took the fans for idiots with his bizarre post-match observations. It was almost as though he didn't realise other human beings had been at the game and a score was kept.
i get why people don't like Lambert, he annoyed me too, but compared to O'Neill who wasted a fortune then actively sabotaged us, I find it hard to get too upset about him. He was also more respectful in his pre and post match interviews than professional moaner Spudfaceosaurus.Lambert repeatedly took the fans for idiots with his bizarre post-match observations. It was almost as though he didn't realise other human beings had been at the game and a score was kept.
i get why people don't like Lambert, he annoyed me too, but compared to O'Neill who wasted a fortune then actively sabotaged us, I find it hard to get too upset about him. He was also more respectful in his pre and post match interviews than professional moaner Spudfaceosaurus.Lambert repeatedly took the fans for idiots with his bizarre post-match observations. It was almost as though he didn't realise other human beings had been at the game and a score was kept.
i get why people don't like Lambert, he annoyed me too, but compared to O'Neill who wasted a fortune then actively sabotaged us, I find it hard to get too upset about him. He was also more respectful in his pre and post match interviews than professional moaner Spudfaceosaurus.Lambert repeatedly took the fans for idiots with his bizarre post-match observations. It was almost as though he didn't realise other human beings had been at the game and a score was kept.
"I thought we were excellent, couldn't have asked for more" after lying down and letting Ipswich face fuck us for 90 minutes.
i get why people don't like Lambert, he annoyed me too, but compared to O'Neill who wasted a fortune then actively sabotaged us, I find it hard to get too upset about him. He was also more respectful in his pre and post match interviews than professional moaner Spudfaceosaurus.Lambert repeatedly took the fans for idiots with his bizarre post-match observations. It was almost as though he didn't realise other human beings had been at the game and a score was kept.
"I thought we were excellent, couldn't have asked for more" after lying down and letting Ipswich face fuck us for 90 minutes.
Despite the way he left us I far preferred the MON days when we were challenging for Europe and playing cup semi finals and buying up some of the best English talent available to the regular embarrassing defeats and relegation battles under Lambert and his 'young and hungry' bunch of misfits and journeymen. I am sure MON could very well be a bloke who is hard to get on with and left us at an inconvenient time that could have been motivated by spite but you could say the same for Ron Saunders. I would have a Saunders or an MON back in charge like a shot rather than a Lambert, who deserved to be shot.
Why are we still discussing this fucking waster, he is long gone ?
Why are we still discussing this fucking waster, he is long gone ?
I understand your gist here but feel duty bound to point out there's always the option of avoiding the thread which has his name in the title.
[/quoteYes I know that, but when it’s at the top of the list with new posts, you think maybe it’s something interesting, like the fucker has been sacked AGAIN, but no, it’s discussing his fucking transfer policy at the Villa from eons ago.Why are we still discussing this fucking waster, he is long gone ?
I understand your gist here but feel duty bound to point out there's always the option of avoiding the thread which has his name in the title.
Meanwhile, Bolton are having their games suspended.
Oh, and quote fail due to rum !Why are we still discussing this fucking waster, he is long gone ?
I understand your gist here but feel duty bound to point out there's always the option of avoiding the thread which has his name in the title.
[/quoteYes I know that, but when it’s at the top of the list with new posts, you think maybe it’s something interesting, like the fucker has been sacked AGAIN, but no, it’s discussing his fucking transfer policy at the Villa from eons ago.Why are we still discussing this fucking waster, he is long gone ?
I understand your gist here but feel duty bound to point out there's always the option of avoiding the thread which has his name in the title.
Meanwhile, Bolton are having their games suspended.
He signed some great players but also paid over the odds for average to downright poor player (I give you Marlon Harewood). A decent manager given his budget would have had us in the Champions League.
Isn't it 'only' 2, Stoke last season and Ipswich this?
Isn't it 'only' 2, Stoke last season and Ipswich this?
It probably is, though he has to take a lot of the 'credit' for our own relegation.
Isn't it 'only' 2, Stoke last season and Ipswich this?
It probably is, though he has to take a lot of the 'credit' for our own relegation.
I am not sure about that as it was over twelve months later we went down. About the only good thing I could say about Lambert is that he didn't actually relegate us. Although I am sure he would have done eventually if we had stuck with him.
I think I said something semi positive about Paul Lambert there. Maybe I need a lie down. That is akin to an atheist saying there probably is a God.
Any clubs supporters now on a really bad run must be praying for an upturn in fortunes quick as they see this guy being available again. Sheffield Wednesday might even be desperate enough!
Any clubs supporters now on a really bad run must be praying for an upturn in fortunes quick as they see this guy being available again. Sheffield Wednesday might even be desperate enough!
They've just appointed Darren Moore so Doncaster now need to be worried.
He’s bluffed his way through 3 job interviews by trotting out the old line about how he kept Villa up, and how we got relegated after he left. Blackburn, Wolves and Ipswich all fell for that line - but just ask the fans of any of those clubs what they think of Lambert now.
If yet another club is stupid (and lazy) enough to fall for it then they deserve everything they get.
He’s bluffed his way through 3 job interviews by trotting out the old line about how he kept Villa up, and how we got relegated after he left. Blackburn, Wolves and Ipswich all fell for that line - but just ask the fans of any of those clubs what they think of Lambert now.
If yet another club is stupid (and lazy) enough to fall for it then they deserve everything they get.
I forgot Stoke. Another failure to add to his CV. Basically he did well at Norwich and that’s it. He’s failed miserably in every other job.
When people talk about black managers not getting a fair chance, and then you see an absolute chancer like Lambert getting job after job, you start to think that maybe they have a point.
When people talk about black managers not getting a fair chance, and then you see an absolute chancer like Lambert getting job after job, you start to think that maybe they have a point.
Knowing him he'll be confident of landing the Celtic job!!!!!!
Quite.
Good to see Darren Moore get a crack at Wednesday, hope it goes well for him personally, even if not for the club.
As for Lambert. I do wonder if that's his last management shot and that maybe he'll come back as a Number 2 in a couple of years.
He’s bluffed his way through 3 job interviews by trotting out the old line about how he kept Villa up, and how we got relegated after he left. Blackburn, Wolves and Ipswich all fell for that line - but just ask the fans of any of those clubs what they think of Lambert now.
If yet another club is stupid (and lazy) enough to fall for it then they deserve everything they get.
I forgot Stoke. Another failure to add to his CV. Basically he did well at Norwich and that’s it. He’s failed miserably in every other job.
TBF I think he did ok with Wycombe, gained promotion with them I think and got the Norwich gig on the strength of it where he flattered to deceive and mugged us.
https://youtu.be/rphCEiJ7cuk
I still think this is absolutely spot on
Alex McLeish for all his managerial failings, was a decent man who "got", that is respected Villa. Lambert is a self serving, wage robbing, incompetent chancer. What you would be left with if Sherwood had a cockney by pass operation.
I wonder if Norwich fans refer to Lambert as Agent Lambert? Because having been a success with them he truly has done a spectacular hatchet job on their closest rivals.
Alex McLeish for all his managerial failings, was a decent man who "got", that is respected Villa. Lambert is a self serving, wage robbing, incompetent chancer. What you would be left with if Sherwood had a cockney by pass operation.
Alex McLeish for all his managerial failings, was a decent man who "got", that is respected Villa. Lambert is a self serving, wage robbing, incompetent chancer. What you would be left with if Sherwood had a cockney by pass operation.
I am amazed that Lamberk lasted as long as he did at Ipswich .I bet he did.nt see that coming and will go again
Supporter Amy Downes is a regular on the Talking Town podcast and believes fans are on the same page over the issue.
"In all the 30 years I've supported them I've never seen our fan base so united in wanting our manager to go," she told BBC Sport.
"Lambert's tenure has been a series of mistakes and a story of Ipswich fans giving him a chance. We are a nice, patient fan base - we don't jump on people's backs, it takes a while for us to turn."
I always had a soft spot for Alex McLeish ever since he was part of the Abderdeen squad that stayed here in Dawlish for a pre-season. They were a great bunch, really friendly. Jim Bett, Willer Miller, Jim Leighton, Dave Dodds. Ian Porterfield had just taken over from Ferguson and was a real gent. At the time Dawlish Town managed to get decent teams coming down for pre-season. They would play here as well as Torquay and Exeter City. Aberdeen though really made the most of our Football Club, staying behind using the facilities and getting to know everyone here.
My mom washed their kit for them between matches and gave them lifts from the hotel to town, or to our club. As a 12 year old mad on football it was fantastic. When they played Exeter, Jim Bett was injured and in the stands, he shouted over to my mom and gave her a wave. It was really ace!
McLeish was a great bloke, I just wish he was not given the job here. He was completely the wrong choice of football brain for us and nothing to do with managing that lot.
I always had a soft spot for Alex McLeish ever since he was part of the Abderdeen squad that stayed here in Dawlish for a pre-season. They were a great bunch, really friendly. Jim Bett, Willer Miller, Jim Leighton, Dave Dodds. Ian Porterfield had just taken over from Ferguson and was a real gent. At the time Dawlish Town managed to get decent teams coming down for pre-season. They would play here as well as Torquay and Exeter City. Aberdeen though really made the most of our Football Club, staying behind using the facilities and getting to know everyone here.
My mom washed their kit for them between matches and gave them lifts from the hotel to town, or to our club. As a 12 year old mad on football it was fantastic. When they played Exeter, Jim Bett was injured and in the stands, he shouted over to my mom and gave her a wave. It was really ace!
McLeish was a great bloke, I just wish he was not given the job here. He was completely the wrong choice of football brain for us and nothing to do with managing that lot.
That team they had back then was a really good side.I always had a soft spot for Alex McLeish ever since he was part of the Abderdeen squad that stayed here in Dawlish for a pre-season. They were a great bunch, really friendly. Jim Bett, Willer Miller, Jim Leighton, Dave Dodds. Ian Porterfield had just taken over from Ferguson and was a real gent. At the time Dawlish Town managed to get decent teams coming down for pre-season. They would play here as well as Torquay and Exeter City. Aberdeen though really made the most of our Football Club, staying behind using the facilities and getting to know everyone here.
My mom washed their kit for them between matches and gave them lifts from the hotel to town, or to our club. As a 12 year old mad on football it was fantastic. When they played Exeter, Jim Bett was injured and in the stands, he shouted over to my mom and gave her a wave. It was really ace!
McLeish was a great bloke, I just wish he was not given the job here. He was completely the wrong choice of football brain for us and nothing to do with managing that lot.
Great attitude, Willer Miller. Always just seemed to want it more!
I always had a soft spot for Alex McLeish ever since he was part of the Abderdeen squad that stayed here in Dawlish for a pre-season. They were a great bunch, really friendly. Jim Bett, Willer Miller, Jim Leighton, Dave Dodds. Ian Porterfield had just taken over from Ferguson and was a real gent. At the time Dawlish Town managed to get decent teams coming down for pre-season. They would play here as well as Torquay and Exeter City. Aberdeen though really made the most of our Football Club, staying behind using the facilities and getting to know everyone here.
My mom washed their kit for them between matches and gave them lifts from the hotel to town, or to our club. As a 12 year old mad on football it was fantastic. When they played Exeter, Jim Bett was injured and in the stands, he shouted over to my mom and gave her a wave. It was really ace!
McLeish was a great bloke, I just wish he was not given the job here. He was completely the wrong choice of football brain for us and nothing to do with managing that lot.
Who’s results should I keep an eye on and who should I go and watch if I need a footy fix down here then Ian, non league and league.
The Gulls should be back in League 2 next season, derby day v Exeter and of course the Carlisle home game for the well travelled Cumbrians.
Lambert, ok. Not a great manager but some of the view on here towards are pretty extreme. He kept us up as the club the board / owner didn't give a f**k. He left then not long after he went down. Basically, I don't think he was that bad in the circumstances.
Lambert did as he was told by the person paying his wages. You can't really blame him for that.
Also, the principle of buying young players with promise isn't inherently flawed either.
The issue with Lambert is he was all or nothing. At first we had a bunch of journeymen and players coming to the wrong end of their career, then at the drop off a hat he stuck them all in the bomb squad and expected a team of kids to pick up the slack on their own.
Also, and he's not alone in recent Villa managers here, almost without exception he didn't develop any of our promising young players. The fact the likes of Lowton, Westwood, Clark, etc have all gone on to have decent Premier League careers shows they were good enough. Lambert just didn't know what to do with them to make them better.
Lambert, ok. Not a great manager but some of the view on here towards are pretty extreme. He kept us up as the club the board / owner didn't give a f**k. He left then not long after he went down. Basically, I don't think he was that bad in the circumstances.
Randy gave him money to sign Clint Dempsey at his peak, Lambert said "No, don't worry, you're grand. I can get by with...Westy and whichever other average fcuk we had in midfield. He ostracised Albrighton, he played sideways back-pass football to get the possession percentage up, he sounded like a complete dullard, taking Villa fans for mugs and earned millions for the privilege of being our manager. As with O'Neill, their careers post-Villa have seen the mask slip. A fucking chancer.
Lambert replaced at Ipswich by Paul Cook. Great upgrade for them.
Lambert, ok. Not a great manager but some of the view on here towards are pretty extreme. He kept us up as the club the board / owner didn't give a f**k. He left then not long after he went down. Basically, I don't think he was that bad in the circumstances.
Randy gave him money to sign Clint Dempsey at his peak, Lambert said "No, don't worry, you're grand. I can get by with...Westy and whichever other average fcuk we had in midfield. He ostracised Albrighton, he played sideways back-pass football to get the possession percentage up, he sounded like a complete dullard, taking Villa fans for mugs and earned millions for the privilege of being our manager. As with O'Neill, their careers post-Villa have seen the mask slip. A fucking chancer.
Clint Dempsey. He did sign Benteke, I know which one I'd rather have.
I always had a soft spot for Alex McLeish ever since he was part of the Abderdeen squad that stayed here in Dawlish for a pre-season. They were a great bunch, really friendly. Jim Bett, Willer Miller, Jim Leighton, Dave Dodds. Ian Porterfield had just taken over from Ferguson and was a real gent. At the time Dawlish Town managed to get decent teams coming down for pre-season. They would play here as well as Torquay and Exeter City. Aberdeen though really made the most of our Football Club, staying behind using the facilities and getting to know everyone here.
My mom washed their kit for them between matches and gave them lifts from the hotel to town, or to our club. As a 12 year old mad on football it was fantastic. When they played Exeter, Jim Bett was injured and in the stands, he shouted over to my mom and gave her a wave. It was really ace!
McLeish was a great bloke, I just wish he was not given the job here. He was completely the wrong choice of football brain for us and nothing to do with managing that lot.
Who’s results should I keep an eye on and who should I go and watch if I need a footy fix down here then Ian, non league and league.
The Gulls should be back in League 2 next season, derby day v Exeter and of course the Carlisle home game for the well travelled Cumbrians.
It's a real shame but my local side Dawlish Town finally folded in 2011. My dad was heavily involved with them from the moment we moved here in 83. They were a big part of my life, playing for the kids set-up and eventually captaining the seconds. I was fortunate enough to be in the squad for a Wembley Cup Final, The Carlsberg Pub Cup in 96. We won so I got to do the Wembley steps and enjoy being part of the whole weekend. Dawlish were a pretty good force down here for years in the Western League and had a good history.
Typical story though, a few bad owners and debts. before folding.
I'm a bit out of the loop with local football and I haven't been for years but I always did enjoy watching Exeter City at St James Park the most. It's a really lovely City too. Lots of character with the Roman walls and old Tudor buildings. They also have the Quay down on the river. I really like Exeter.
Torquay United was ok, the atmosphere was never quite as good as City though. Plymouth Argyle has changed a lot since I've been there, I have heard it's not too bad and quite a good ground to go to. The Barbican Centre there is fantastic as well. I haven't actually been to a match there since we beat them in 3-1 while Taylor was boss.
As regards non league Buckland Athletic, near Newton Abbot have a great set-up now. They are doing very well worth watching. They are just off the main bypass between Newton and Torquay in Kingskerswell.
I always had a soft spot for Alex McLeish ever since he was part of the Abderdeen squad that stayed here in Dawlish for a pre-season. They were a great bunch, really friendly. Jim Bett, Willer Miller, Jim Leighton, Dave Dodds. Ian Porterfield had just taken over from Ferguson and was a real gent. At the time Dawlish Town managed to get decent teams coming down for pre-season. They would play here as well as Torquay and Exeter City. Aberdeen though really made the most of our Football Club, staying behind using the facilities and getting to know everyone here.
My mom washed their kit for them between matches and gave them lifts from the hotel to town, or to our club. As a 12 year old mad on football it was fantastic. When they played Exeter, Jim Bett was injured and in the stands, he shouted over to my mom and gave her a wave. It was really ace!
McLeish was a great bloke, I just wish he was not given the job here. He was completely the wrong choice of football brain for us and nothing to do with managing that lot.
Who’s results should I keep an eye on and who should I go and watch if I need a footy fix down here then Ian, non league and league.
The Gulls should be back in League 2 next season, derby day v Exeter and of course the Carlisle home game for the well travelled Cumbrians.
It's a real shame but my local side Dawlish Town finally folded in 2011. My dad was heavily involved with them from the moment we moved here in 83. They were a big part of my life, playing for the kids set-up and eventually captaining the seconds. I was fortunate enough to be in the squad for a Wembley Cup Final, The Carlsberg Pub Cup in 96. We won so I got to do the Wembley steps and enjoy being part of the whole weekend. Dawlish were a pretty good force down here for years in the Western League and had a good history.
Typical story though, a few bad owners and debts. before folding.
I'm a bit out of the loop with local football and I haven't been for years but I always did enjoy watching Exeter City at St James Park the most. It's a really lovely City too. Lots of character with the Roman walls and old Tudor buildings. They also have the Quay down on the river. I really like Exeter.
Torquay United was ok, the atmosphere was never quite as good as City though. Plymouth Argyle has changed a lot since I've been there, I have heard it's not too bad and quite a good ground to go to. The Barbican Centre there is fantastic as well. I haven't actually been to a match there since we beat them in 3-1 while Taylor was boss.
As regards non league Buckland Athletic, near Newton Abbot have a great set-up now. They are doing very well worth watching. They are just off the main bypass between Newton and Torquay in Kingskerswell.
Thanks Ian, some good stuff here.
Disappointed to see another Blues shirt yesterday in Topsham, that’s 2 I’ve seen now in the past 6 weeks in the Teign/Exe area.
If you’re ever chatting away with other Villa fans about the bad old days try playing the Hobsons choice managers game
Guaranteed to liven up proceedings
you have to take one to come back and manage
which one do you go for ?
Alex McLeish
Paul Lambert
Steve Bruce
it’s not easy but i always go for McLeish
Decent bloke
Won stuff as a manager
More likeable than the other two imo
talked just a bit less bullshit than the others
Had respect for the fans
Never said ‘ off with me Hed‘ or ‘ we go again‘
But in a race to the bottom there is not much in it really
So much of this has that feeling of "here he goes again"
There is suddenly cautious excitement among supporters but the club’s next manager has to first bring a fractured squad back together. “The mood within the club has been terrible,” says one well-placed source. “It’s been a car crash.”
The Athletic has been told Lambert gradually lost friends within the dressing room due to his abrasive man-management style. “He trots out the stuff about playing for Dortmund and Celtic,” said one source. “But respect should be earned not given.”
Lambert fell out with players Kayden Jackson and Jon Nolan when they objected to him questioning their commitment, and it is thought he might have been reluctant to select either for the remainder of the season. Jackson, who finished as top scorer last season and attracted unsuccessful bids from Championship side Bournemouth in the summer, has not featured since getting a straight red card in a 1-0 loss at home to Sunderland last month.
“Lambert wouldn’t talk to him,” said one source. “He wouldn’t even make eye contact with him.” Another dressing room figure to speak to The Athletic says the absence of clear communication from Lambert became an increasing problem during his final weeks in charge.
Last Tuesday’s 1-0 win away to Hull and then Saturday’s 2-1 home victory over Doncaster will do nothing to alter perceptions of Lambert. “I’ve never known the fanbase to be so united in one position, which is effectively against the manager,” says Joe Fairs of the Ipswich-focused Blue Monday podcast. “Most clubs would’ve sacked him three times over.”
If you’re ever chatting away with other Villa fans about the bad old days try playing the Hobsons choice managers game
Guaranteed to liven up proceedings
you have to take one to come back and manage
which one do you go for ?
Alex McLeish
Paul Lambert
Steve Bruce
it’s not easy but i always go for McLeish
Decent bloke
Won stuff as a manager
More likeable than the other two imo
talked just a bit less bullshit than the others
Had respect for the fans
Never said ‘ off with me Hed‘ or ‘ we go again‘
But in a race to the bottom there is not much in it really
I always had a soft spot for Alex McLeish ever since he was part of the Abderdeen squad that stayed here in Dawlish for a pre-season. They were a great bunch, really friendly. Jim Bett, Willer Miller, Jim Leighton, Dave Dodds. Ian Porterfield had just taken over from Ferguson and was a real gent. At the time Dawlish Town managed to get decent teams coming down for pre-season. They would play here as well as Torquay and Exeter City. Aberdeen though really made the most of our Football Club, staying behind using the facilities and getting to know everyone here.
My mom washed their kit for them between matches and gave them lifts from the hotel to town, or to our club. As a 12 year old mad on football it was fantastic. When they played Exeter, Jim Bett was injured and in the stands, he shouted over to my mom and gave her a wave. It was really ace!
McLeish was a great bloke, I just wish he was not given the job here. He was completely the wrong choice of football brain for us and nothing to do with managing that lot.
Eh?I always had a soft spot for Alex McLeish ever since he was part of the Abderdeen squad that stayed here in Dawlish for a pre-season. They were a great bunch, really friendly. Jim Bett, Willer Miller, Jim Leighton, Dave Dodds. Ian Porterfield had just taken over from Ferguson and was a real gent. At the time Dawlish Town managed to get decent teams coming down for pre-season. They would play here as well as Torquay and Exeter City. Aberdeen though really made the most of our Football Club, staying behind using the facilities and getting to know everyone here.
My mom washed their kit for them between matches and gave them lifts from the hotel to town, or to our club. As a 12 year old mad on football it was fantastic. When they played Exeter, Jim Bett was injured and in the stands, he shouted over to my mom and gave her a wave. It was really ace!
McLeish was a great bloke, I just wish he was not given the job here. He was completely the wrong choice of football brain for us and nothing to do with managing that lot.
Are you mad
If you’re ever chatting away with other Villa fans about the bad old days try playing the Hobsons choice managers gameI cannot get over McLeish's vanity purchase of Charles and the team he put out against Spurrrrrrrs.
Guaranteed to liven up proceedings
you have to take one to come back and manage
which one do you go for ?
Alex McLeish
Paul Lambert
Steve Bruce
it’s not easy but i always go for McLeish
Decent bloke
Won stuff as a manager
More likeable than the other two imo
talked just a bit less bullshit than the others
Had respect for the fans
Never said ‘ off with me Hed‘ or ‘ we go again‘
But in a race to the bottom there is not much in it really
The head scratcher for me was how somebody could relegate Small Heath and then walk into the Villa job.
I can't see an Everton manager ever taking them down and then immediately getting the Liverpool job.
The head scratcher for me was how somebody could relegate Small Heath and then walk into the Villa job.
I can't see an Everton manager ever taking them down and then immediately getting the Liverpool job.
Didn't Lerner's checklist at the time for the Villa manager's job include the requirement to "know the area"? I wonder how much Klopp knew about Liverpool or Guardiola knew about the cotton village before they got their respective jobs. It was when we knew for certain Lerner was nuts.
The head scratcher for me was how somebody could relegate Small Heath and then walk into the Villa job.
I can't see an Everton manager ever taking them down and then immediately getting the Liverpool job.
Didn't Lerner's checklist at the time for the Villa manager's job include the requirement to "know the area"? I wonder how much Klopp knew about Liverpool or Guardiola knew about the cotton village before they got their respective jobs. It was when we knew for certain Lerner was nuts.
First I've heard of it. I've always thought that after being shafted by managers twice in twelve months he wanted someone who would be more straightforward.
No you did not imagine it. It is on the SHA thread.Perhaps I should give them some credit for imaginative humour. On the other hand it is most likely not. Some fun to be had at work tomorrow.
The head scratcher for me was how somebody could relegate Small Heath and then walk into the Villa job.
I can't see an Everton manager ever taking them down and then immediately getting the Liverpool job.
Didn't Lerner's checklist at the time for the Villa manager's job include the requirement to "know the area"? I wonder how much Klopp knew about Liverpool or Guardiola knew about the cotton village before they got their respective jobs. It was when we knew for certain Lerner was nuts.
First I've heard of it. I've always thought that after being shafted by managers twice in twelve months he wanted someone who would be more straightforward.
Was Houlier's heart attack a specific shafting to Lerner?
Did I imagine it or did I see on Midlands Today vans with pixel boards driving past the sty with “Dong Out”