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Title: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on February 06, 2016, 05:51:55 PM
And the hits just keep on coming....

Liverpool Home - Draw 1 point
Stoke Away - Win 3 points.
Everton Home - Draw 1 Point
Citeh Away - Lose 0 points
Spuds Home - Lose 0 points
Swansea Away - Win 3 points
Chelsea Home - Draw 1 point
Bournemouth Home - Win 3 points.
Manure Away - Lose 0 points
Southampton Home - Draw 1 point
Watford Away - Draw 1 point
Newcastle Home - Win 3 points
Arsenal Away - Lose 0 points

Only gets us to 33 points - can someone get us to 37?!

Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: VinnieChase84 on February 06, 2016, 05:58:36 PM
We have to win all our home games 🙈🙈
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Stirchley Villain on February 06, 2016, 06:00:57 PM
And the hits just keep on coming....

Liverpool Home - Loss 0 point
Stoke Away - Loss 0 points.
Everton Home - Draw 1 Point
Citeh Away - Lose 0 points
Spuds Home - Lose 0 points
Swansea Away - Loss 0 points
Chelsea Home - Loss 0 point
Bournemouth Home - Win 3 points.
Manure Away - Lose 0 points
Southampton Home - Draw 1 point
Watford Away - Draw 1 point
Newcastle Home - Win 3 points
Arsenal Away - Lose 0 points

25 points

I've brought us down to earth a little...
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on February 06, 2016, 06:03:19 PM
That's the spirit.  Can't see it myself somehow this time.  If only we hadn't lost those games against Norwich and Sunderland.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: ozzjim on February 06, 2016, 06:04:33 PM
And the hits just keep on coming....

Liverpool Home - win 3 points
Stoke Away - loss 0
Everton Home - Draw 1 Point
Citeh Away - Lose 0 points
Spuds Home - draw 1 points
Swansea Away - Win 3 points
Chelsea Home - Draw 1 point
Bournemouth Home - Win 3 points.
Manure Away - Lose 0 points
Southampton Home - win 3 points
Watford Away - Draw 1 point
Newcastle Home - Win 3 points
Arsenal Away - Lose 0 points

Only gets us to 33 points - can someone get us to 37?!



35 at my very most optimistic!

I think the ref decisions not to give us penalties in the last 3, which could have seen us easily pick up 5 more points, have ended all hope.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: four fornicholl on February 06, 2016, 06:14:12 PM
arsenal away last game
we lose but stay up?????
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: IFWaters on February 06, 2016, 06:16:11 PM
And the hits just keep on coming....

Liverpool Home - win 3 points
Stoke Away - win - 3 points
Everton Home - Draw 1 Point
Citeh Away - Lose 0 points
Spuds Home - draw 1 points
Swansea Away - Win 3 points
Chelsea Home - Draw 1 point
Bournemouth Home - Win 3 points.
Manure Away - Lose 0 points
Southampton Home - win 3 points
Watford Away - Draw 1 point
Newcastle Home - Win 3 points
Arsenal Away - Draw - 1 point

39 points. Probably safety.

# I believe in Remi.



35 at my very most optimistic!

I think the ref decisions not to give us penalties in the last 3, which could have seen us easily pick up 5 more points, have ended all hope.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Dave on February 06, 2016, 06:16:59 PM
As somebody said on another thread, over the last five games we've picked up eight points, that same 1.6 per game over the rest of the season gives us 37.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Olof's Beard on February 06, 2016, 06:17:06 PM
It's impossible to predict. Leicester had one more point that we have at the same stage last season. They had no stars (Vardy and Mahrez weren't as good as they are now during the run) but got some momentum up and got out of it, somehow.

We will need some shock results for sure and certainly some luck. Two separate sequences of 10 points from four games would do it. We got 10 points from the first four games of last season under Lambert of course, and that start ultimately kept us up. In the 21 games that followed until Sherwood was appointed, we only got 12 more - every bit as bad as we have been this season.

Sherwood lost his first two games, so if we can somehow sneak a win against an out of form Liverpool team next week, we will only be three points worse off than we were at the same stage last season. And we stayed up then, whilst been able to afford to lose our last two games.

Of course we had a Benteke last season. But Leicester certainly didn't.

Is anyone prepared to believe?
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Stirchley Villain on February 06, 2016, 06:18:51 PM
As somebody said on another thread, over the last five games we've picked up eight points, that same 1.6 per game over the rest of the season gives us 37.

Good point well made. There's a few decent teams coming up though.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Mossie Hennebry on February 06, 2016, 06:31:54 PM
Aston Villa V Liverpool    win   3
Stoke V Aston Villa            loss 0
Aston Villa V Everton            draw   1
Man City V Aston Villa    loss   0
Aston Villa V Tottenham    win   3
Swansea V Aston Villa    loss   0
Aston Villa V Chelsea            win   3
Aston Villa V Bournemouth    win   3
Man Utd V Aston Villa       loss   0
Aston Villa V Southampton    win   3
Watford V Aston Villa            loss   0
Aston Villa V Newcastle    win   3
Arsenal V Aston Villa            loss   0
                                                       35 points and safety!
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on February 06, 2016, 06:34:42 PM
Liverpool Home - Draw 1 point
Stoke Away - Win 3 points.
Everton Home - Draw 1 Point
Citeh Away - Lose 0 points
Spuds Home - Lose 0 points
Swansea Away - Win 3 points
Chelsea Home - Draw 1 point
Bournemouth Home - Win 3 points
Manure Away - Lose 0 points
Southampton Home - Win 3 points
Watford Away - Win 3 points
Newcastle Home - Win 3 points
Arsenal Away - Lose 0 points

There's your 37 points, Kippax.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Olof's Beard on February 06, 2016, 06:35:58 PM
I think one of our biggest problems is the lay of the league. We have chosen a bad year to be quite so shit, because some of the bigger teams have been much worse than usual so the points have been shared around a lot. A lot of teams have pulled away of late and realistically it looks like 3 from 4 now, unless the Stripeys continue their collapse (they need to start playing Berahino and try and score a few goals).

I don't think 35 points will be enough sadly, it could even end up being 40. But we have take heart from both Leicester and our own predicaments at this time last year, take it one game at a time and try and beat everyone. We can't faff around against the big boys now - there are no 'free games'. United, City, Liverpool, Chelsea...they have all been beaten by lesser sides this year and they all have their vulnerabilities.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: SoccerHQ on February 06, 2016, 06:39:23 PM
Just heard in return for refusing Kalinic a permit the FA have instead agreed for us to play Norwich a further 10 times in the run in, WE ARE STAYING UP!!

Seriously for me the gap is still too big. 4 points from Liverpool and Stoke though....
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: garyshawsknee on February 06, 2016, 06:41:14 PM
Yeah Swansea and Bournemouth picking up points has been a ball ache, we need a couple of other teams to be sucked in.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: castlefields_villan on February 06, 2016, 07:24:39 PM
Yeah Swansea and Bournemouth picking up points has been a ball ache, we need a couple of other teams to be sucked in.


Good workman like performance from everyone - hard to think of anyone who didn't at least play ok.

I said a few weeks ago the Baggies could be dragged into it and slowly they are - even though they've got the same points as Chelsea I think Chelsea will continue to improve - for me anyone from Crystal Palace down (excluding Chelsea) can be caught.  We can do this - VTID.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: SoccerHQ on February 06, 2016, 07:26:52 PM
Anyone come up with a forumla that has us staying up without beating Newcastle at home?

Let's see we factor in beating them at home as that simply has to be done if we are to have any chance of staying up then the gap to them is 5 points with 12 games left.

Dosen't sound that impossible....Newcastle still have many hard games themselves left in the run in....Man. City, Spurs at home, Chelsea, Liverpool, Leicester away etc so they'll lose games in the run in but we simply must capitalise on the weekends they do whoever we're playing.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 06, 2016, 07:29:42 PM
The Stripeys are this season's Glass Staircase riders. They'll stay up because they have enough points already and Pulis will scrape a few more results but the loyalest fanz in the wairld will force him out in the summer, even after their best season since 1987-88.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: QuintonVilla on February 06, 2016, 07:42:30 PM
Albion won't go down with Pulis in charge, when needed he can stick ten behind the ball and grind out an appalling 0-0 or 1-0 win. I wanted them to get something at Newcastle today. I still think we're down but IF we were to get out of it we need to keep the likes of Newcastle as close as possible.

Newcastle will love coming to VP last home game of the season if we're down and they're safe. We'll have to take our medicine that day.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Ads on February 06, 2016, 07:57:35 PM
Speaking to see Stripey chums on the phone on my way back and they bae best pleased with Tone.

We need six or seven more wins and a smattering of draws. Yore looking at the six pointers in Newcastle and Bournemouth at home, along with Swansea away as providing half of those.

We have quite a lot of the mid-table sides at home in Liverpool, Everton, Southampton, Chelsea and also Stoke away. We are going to have to beat at least three of them and it's possibly our next two that give us the best opportunity.

Four points would be great, since and momentum will see us on our way.

It's a long shot, but not as long as it was at 14:59 today.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on February 06, 2016, 08:16:26 PM
Come on, who are some of you trying to kid. Look at how many games we've won this season, and you think we can stay up???
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: walsall villain on February 06, 2016, 08:17:55 PM
Come on, who are some of you trying to kid. Look at how many games we've won this season, and you think we can stay up???
We need a 10 point reduction for one or two of those above us. We need a legal team to get digging.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Jimbo on February 06, 2016, 08:19:10 PM
Don't even think about it. Just take each game as it comes and try to focus on salvaging some pride. Whatever happens then will happen.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Uknowthescore on February 06, 2016, 08:22:40 PM
Liverpool Home - Win 3 points
Stoke Away - Win 3 points.
Everton Home - Draw 1 Point
Citeh Away - Lose 0 points
Spuds Home - Lose 0 points
Swansea Away - Win 3 points
Chelsea Home - Draw 1 point
Bournemouth Home - Win 3 points
Manure Away - Lose 0 points
Southampton Home - Win 3 points
Watford Away - Win 3 points
Newcastle Home - Win 3 points
Arsenal Away - Lose 0 points.

Not impossible gives us a total of 39 points and safety.
#believe
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: kieron on February 06, 2016, 08:25:02 PM
I'm impressed with the optimism on this thread, however I do believe you're all smoking something you should be sharing with the rest of us.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: AVH87 on February 06, 2016, 08:27:28 PM
I'd be very surprised and impressed if we got over 30 points, I think our run-in looks tough. We will need some shock results beating at least a couple of teams like Chelsea/Spurs/Everton/Utd. Won't give up til it's over but we haven't beaten a top-half team all season thus far.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: wittonwarrior on February 06, 2016, 08:31:22 PM
Good result today, however a hell of lot to do to escape doom and  gloom.  Not helping teams just above us with the exception of Norwich picking up points.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: ez on February 06, 2016, 08:58:57 PM
Today's result makes that red card at west ham all the more annoying.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: QuintonVilla on February 06, 2016, 09:02:56 PM
Let's be honest though, Norwich were absolutely shocking. The worst team I've seen at VP this season, apart from ourselves. They'll be coming down with us.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: ChicagoLion on February 06, 2016, 09:12:30 PM
7 wins needed, not impossible but very unlikely.
We would need to keep this Back 4 fit for most of the season as a start, Gabby to keep putting effort in and find someone to replace Bacuna, not Richardson. Oh yes a few ref decisions going our way would help. We have been robbed a few times this season.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: oswald funkletrumpet on February 06, 2016, 09:19:22 PM
Let's be honest though, Norwich were absolutely shocking. The worst team I've seen at VP this season, apart from ourselves. They'll be coming down with us.

agree with you there, thought their best player was the centre forward, really put himself about. naismith was gash
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Locko on February 06, 2016, 09:32:11 PM
arsenal away last game
we lose but stay up?????

By the time we get there we will need a result against an Arsenal side that can't win the league, will have chumps league qualification sewn up and with an eye on the cup final. It is written.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: QuintonVilla on February 06, 2016, 09:36:43 PM
Not saying I think we will win, but Liverpool are certainly beatable next week. They're piss poor I think.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: KevinGage on February 06, 2016, 09:40:03 PM
If we don't go down this season, we'll never go down.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: saunders_heroes on February 06, 2016, 09:40:59 PM
If we don't go down this season, we'll never go down.

That's what I think.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 06, 2016, 09:42:21 PM
While we will still almost certainly go down, it's nice to have a tiny glimmer of hope.

And just imagine if we did stay up, the Bitters and rags would be devastated. They'd probably never recover from it.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: QuintonVilla on February 06, 2016, 09:46:31 PM
While we will still almost certainly go down, it's nice to have a tiny glimmer of hope.

And just imagine if we did stay up, the Bitters and rags would be devastated. They'd probably never recover from it.
They're already planning 'fireworks parties' and 'flying a plane over the ground' if we go down. Seriously.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: DeKuip on February 06, 2016, 10:01:57 PM
While we will still almost certainly go down, it's nice to have a tiny glimmer of hope.

And just imagine if we did stay up, the Bitters and rags would be devastated. They'd probably never recover from it.
They're already planning 'fireworks parties' and 'flying a plane over the ground' if we go down. Seriously.
No problem with Blues, Albion, Cov or Newcastle fans taking the piss out of us when we go down, we've dished plenty out in the past so it's fair game. I'd be more annoyed if I saw any of our fans bloody crying over it as if someone close had died.

Having said that I totted up our run in as others have above and have us finishing with 55 points!
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Dave on February 06, 2016, 10:04:50 PM
No problem with Blues, Albion, Cov or Newcastle fans taking the piss out of us when we go down, we've dished plenty out in the past so it's fair game. I'd be more annoyed if I saw any of our fans bloody crying over it as if someone close had died.

*thumbs up*
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: QuintonVilla on February 06, 2016, 10:10:16 PM
I agree with the fans crying over relegation. Whenever I see other teams get relegated and there's grown men in the crowd crying their eyes out I always think what an absolute fanny.

I remember when Blues went down at Spurs and there were blokes dressed as Bananas in Pyjamas and Where's Wally bawling their eyes out on TV.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: four fornicholl on February 06, 2016, 10:16:06 PM
I agree with the fans crying over relegation. Whenever I see other teams get relegated and there's grown men in the crowd crying their eyes out I always think what an absolute fanny.

I remember when Blues went down at Spurs and there were blokes dressed as Bananas in Pyjamas and Where's Wally bawling their eyes out on TV.
I cried when albert tatlock died, in front of my best mate, ive never lived it down
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: four fornicholl on February 06, 2016, 10:20:34 PM
arsenal away last game
we lose but stay up?????

By the time we get there we will need a result against an Arsenal side that can't win the league, will have chumps league qualification sewn up and with an eye on the cup final. It is written.
oh to bounce in the clock end again, dreams are made of this
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: KevinGage on February 06, 2016, 10:57:55 PM
While we will still almost certainly go down, it's nice to have a tiny glimmer of hope.

And just imagine if we did stay up, the Bitters and rags would be devastated. They'd probably never recover from it.
They're already planning 'fireworks parties' and 'flying a plane over the ground' if we go down. Seriously.
No problem with Blues, Albion, Cov or Newcastle fans taking the piss out of us when we go down, we've dished plenty out in the past so it's fair game. I'd be more annoyed if I saw any of our fans bloody crying over it as if someone close had died.

Having said that I totted up our run in as others have above and have us finishing with 55 points!


Good old crack cocaine.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: castlefields_villan on February 06, 2016, 11:36:36 PM
While we will still almost certainly go down, it's nice to have a tiny glimmer of hope.

And just imagine if we did stay up, the Bitters and rags would be devastated. They'd probably never recover from it.
They're already planning 'fireworks parties' and 'flying a plane over the ground' if we go down. Seriously.

as well as public holiday of celebration for the residents of B9 and B10
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: amfy on February 07, 2016, 11:32:37 AM
I just keep thinking if we gain one point a week on the teams above us, we'll beat relegation with weeks to spare!

We got 2 yesterday!
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on February 07, 2016, 12:48:26 PM
8 points from the last 5 games= 1.6 points per game.
13 remaining games x 1.6 points = 20.8 points. (Say 21).
Total 37 points, probably enough to overtake Sunderland and Norwich.
If Newcastle take 13 points from their 13 games (a point per game which is slightly better than they have achieved so far) they finish on 37 points as well.
Our goal difference is presently -20, theirs is -18. That changes with our better results than them.

Conclusion:We are staying up as Newcastle are relegated on goal difference.
Simples.

Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: curiousorange on February 07, 2016, 12:50:02 PM
If we beat the Dippers, I'll start to think it's possible. What would be typical Lerner Villa would be for us to agonisingly miss out on survival.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Percy McCarthy on February 07, 2016, 01:23:32 PM
If we beat the Dippers, I'll start to think it's possible. What would be typical Lerner Villa would be for us to agonisingly miss out on survival.

I'd say agonisingly missing out on relegation is more typical of Lerner Villa.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Villa Lew on February 07, 2016, 01:44:21 PM
Of all the forecasts that have been given, I'd be surprised if anyone got more than 50% of their forecasts correct. All good fun but a waste of time.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 07, 2016, 01:48:35 PM
Liverpool Home - Draw
Stoke Away - Win
Everton Home - Draw
Citeh Away - Lose
Spuds Home - Lose
Swansea Away - Win
Chelsea Home - Win
Bournemouth Home - Win
Manure Away - Draw
Southampton Home - Win
Watford Away - Win
Newcastle Home - Win
Arsenal Away - Already safe, who cares.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on February 07, 2016, 02:10:35 PM
I suppose injury returns could help.  Just checked Physio room and they have an anticipated return date for Adama of 5th March - could be vital?  Is that right about Kozak being out until May?!
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: oswald funkletrumpet on February 07, 2016, 02:15:10 PM
Liverpool Home - Draw
Stoke Away - Win
Everton Home - Draw
Citeh Away - Lose
Spuds Home - Lose
Swansea Away - Win
Chelsea Home - Win
Bournemouth Home - Win
Manure Away - Draw
Southampton Home - Win
Watford Away - Win
Newcastle Home - Win
Arsenal Away - Already safe, who cares.

winning 6 out 7?

nurse!
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Gregorys Boy on February 07, 2016, 02:29:14 PM
Its not going to happen! Stop hurting yourselfs with fulse hopes :-X
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Percy McCarthy on February 07, 2016, 02:32:44 PM
Its not going to happen! Stop hurting yourselfs with fulse hopes :-X

Why? I hurt myself reading your spelling. 😉
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: KevinGage on February 07, 2016, 02:33:03 PM
Of all the forecasts that have been given, I'd be surprised if anyone got more than 50% of their forecasts correct. All good fun but a waste of time.


On an internet messageboard? 

You're having me on.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Gregorys Boy on February 07, 2016, 02:35:24 PM
Its not going to happen! Stop hurting yourselfs with fulse hopes :-X

Why? I hurt myself reading your spelling. 😉

Bite me!
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: ozzjim on February 07, 2016, 02:50:34 PM
I suppose injury returns could help.  Just checked Physio room and they have an anticipated return date for Adama of 5th March - could be vital?  Is that right about Kozak being out until May?!

He has fractured his ankle so I would guess so.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on February 07, 2016, 02:59:13 PM
Great.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: exiled on the wirral! on February 07, 2016, 03:20:08 PM
Liverpool draw
Stoke Win
Everton Win
City Lose
Spurs Draw
Swansea Win
Chelsea Draw
Bournemouth Win
Man Utd Lose
Southampton Win
Watford Draw
Newcastle Win
Arsenal Draw
39 Points might juse be enough..always the optomist me..
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: eamonn on February 07, 2016, 03:26:48 PM
If we keep it alive til the Barcodes game that may well be the shit or bust, must win of all must-wins.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Chris Harte on February 07, 2016, 04:32:51 PM
Okay, let's play:

Liverpool Home - Draw
Stoke Away - Draw
Everton Home - Draw
Citeh Away - Lose
Spuds Home - Lose
Swansea Away - Draw
Chelsea Home - Draw
Bournemouth Home - Win
Manure Away - Lose
Southampton Home - Draw
Watford Away - Win
Newcastle Home - Win
Arsenal Away - Lose.

I see this putting us on 31 points. It won't be enough, other than to perhaps get us off the bottom of the league.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: PaulMcGrathsNo5Shirt on February 07, 2016, 06:13:11 PM
Liverpool Home - WIN
Stoke Away - WIN
Everton Home - WIN
Citeh Away - WIN
Spuds Home - WIN
Swansea Away - WIN
Chelsea Home - WIN
Bournemouth Home - WIN
Manure Away - LOSE 3-0
Southampton Home - WIN
Watford Away - WIN
Newcastle Home - WIN
Arsenal Away - WIN

Piece of piss, mid table as always.

Off for a lie down now.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Holte132 on February 07, 2016, 07:16:06 PM
Liverpool Home - WIN
Stoke Away - WIN
Everton Home - WIN
Citeh Away - WIN
Spuds Home - WIN
Swansea Away - WIN
Chelsea Home - WIN
Bournemouth Home - WIN
Manure Away - LOSE 3-0
Southampton Home - WIN
Watford Away - WIN
Newcastle Home - WIN
Arsenal Away - WIN

Piece of piss, mid table as always.

Off for a lie down now.

What are you on? Can I have some, please? ;-)
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: gpbarr on February 07, 2016, 07:19:41 PM
With rose tinted specs, I get 40 points and survival on the final day.

In reality, 29 points and nowhere near enough

Liverpool Home - draw
Stoke Away - lose
Everton Home - draw
Citeh Away - lose
Spuds Home - lose
Swansea Away - win
Chelsea Home - lose
Bournemouth Home - draw
Manure Away - lose
Southampton Home - draw
Watford Away - win
Newcastle Home - win
Arsenal Away - lose
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: aj2k77 on February 07, 2016, 07:40:02 PM
Liverpool - Lose
Stoke - draw
Everton - lose
Man C- lose
Spurs - lose
Swansea - win
Chelsea - lose
Bournemouth - win
Manure - lose
Southampton - draw
Watford - draw
Newcastle - win
Arsenal - lose

28 pts
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: ChicagoLion on February 07, 2016, 07:48:54 PM


Liverpool Home - Draw 1 point
Stoke Away - Loss 0 points
Everton Home - Win 3 Point
Citeh Away - Lose 0 points
Spuds Home - Lose 0 points
Swansea Away - Draw 1 point
Chelsea Home - Loss 0 point
Bournemouth Home - Win 3 points.
Manure Away - Lose 0 points
Southampton Home - Draw 1 point
Watford Away - Draw 1 point
Newcastle Home - Win 3 points
Arsenal Away - Lose 0 points


Not enough
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Ads on February 07, 2016, 07:49:45 PM
I predict we will need a point to stay up at Arsenal, who, rather coincidentally,  will need a point to win the title.

Sob on the Tyne.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: ldavfc4eva on February 07, 2016, 08:05:23 PM


Liverpool Home - win
Stoke Away - draw
Everton Home - lose
Citeh Away - draw
Spuds Home - lose
Swansea Away - win
Chelsea Home - lose
Bournemouth Home - win
Manure Away - lose
Southampton Home - draw
Watford Away - lose
Newcastle Home - win
Arsenal Away - lose

15 points
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Dave Pountney on February 07, 2016, 08:41:12 PM
Liverpool Home - Draw 1 point

The difficulty of playing the forecasting game is that you have to put each game in it's own unique context. For example, if we lose to Liverpool and Stoke, then the wheels will have come off the mini-revival and we may well go into free fall, losing most of the remaining games. Conversely, while it's difficult sitting here now, today, to see us beating Tottenham, I could see it happening if we carried on the current momentum and we played them very much alive and on the back of a few wins. Totally different context and a completely different game to one where we're more or less down and on a poor run. If that was the case, then they would take us to the cleaners. Ditto the Arsenal game in May. What will the context of that game be? If we needed some points to stay up, and were still alive, and Arsenal had already won the league, or lost it, then I could see us winning. If Arsenal needed three points to win the the title, then forget it, whether were alive or dead. Context is everything, but here's my go at looking into the crystal ball: -


Liverpool Home - Draw 1 Point
Stoke Away - Win 3 points.
Everton Home - Win 3 Points
Citeh Away - Lose 0 points
Spuds Home - Draw 1 point
Swansea Away - Win 3 points
Chelsea Home - Draw 1 point
Bournemouth Home - Win 3 points.
Manure Away - Lose 0 points
Southampton Home - Win 3 points
Watford Away - Draw 1 point
Newcastle Home - Win 3 points
Arsenal Away - Draw 1 point

39 points and we go down on goal difference. Last minute Arsenal goal does for us and the Ollbeyun stay up! :'(
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Smirker on February 08, 2016, 06:58:45 AM
Focus on Liverpool for now. It's a game we can win. When was the last time we beat them at home?
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: oswald funkletrumpet on February 08, 2016, 07:09:32 AM
Focus on Liverpool for now. It's a game we can win. When was the last time we beat them at home?

last game of 2011 i think, 1 win in 17 seasons
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: ozzjim on February 08, 2016, 07:12:20 AM
I have to say if there was any side I would love to do right in it it would be Newcastle. Their fans have moaned non stop about us taking the piss, McLaren is a complete knob too. I would love to with leapfrog them or take them with us at Villa Park.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: dekko on February 08, 2016, 08:09:06 AM
I have to say if there was any side I would love to do right in it it would be Newcastle. Their fans have moaned non stop about us taking the piss, McLaren is a complete knob too. I would love to with leapfrog them or take them with us at Villa Park.

I agree with the sentiment, but if they come down with us it gets a whole lot harder to get out of an already tough division.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: oldtimernow on February 08, 2016, 08:35:34 AM
arsenal away last game
we lose but stay up?????

By the time we get there we will need a result against an Arsenal side that can't win the league, will have chumps league qualification sewn up and with an eye on the cup final. It is written.
oh to bounce in the clock end again, dreams are made of this

Arsene to throw his apprentice a lifeline?

and Liverpool beat Albion to relegate them!!!!
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: rob_bridge on February 08, 2016, 08:36:15 AM
And the hits just keep on coming....

Liverpool Home - Draw 1 point
Stoke Away - Win 3 points.
Everton Home - Draw 1 Point
Citeh Away - Lose 0 points
Spuds Home - Lose 0 points
Swansea Away - Win 3 points
Chelsea Home - Draw 1 point
Bournemouth Home - Win 3 points.
Manure Away - Lose 0 points
Southampton Home - Draw 1 point
Watford Away - Draw 1 point
Newcastle Home - Win 3 points
Arsenal Away - Lose 0 points

Only gets us to 33 points - can someone get us to 37?!

Easy

Just change the 1 or 0 to 3. Takes us to over 50.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: oldhill_avfc on February 08, 2016, 10:12:26 AM
Liverpool Home - 3
Stoke Away - 1 (3)
Everton Home - 0
Citeh Away - 0
Spuds Home - 0
Swansea Away - 3
Chelsea Home - 0
Bournemouth Home - 3
Manure Away - 0
Southampton Home - 3
Watford Away - 1 (3)
Newcastle Home - 1 (3)
Arsenal Away - 0

Realistic - 15 points,  Optimistic - 21
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: montague on February 08, 2016, 10:32:08 AM
Leicester last year last 13 games were won 7 drew 3 lost 3, probably exactly what we need to do now. Two wins and a draw in the next 3 games would make it interesting.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: ozzjim on February 08, 2016, 10:57:28 AM
If we are within 4 points after the next 5 games I think we have an outside chance. Right now though we are about 92% chance of going based on previous seasons etc. We would need Gabby to go on a Vardy like run of goals, one of the midfielders become a latter day Platt and Lescott to channel McGrath to the last game.

Mind you if fit, I would be sorely tempted to start Gabby and Gestede this weekend, Gestede has some sort of odd hex over their defence.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: SoccerHQ on February 08, 2016, 11:52:44 AM
Anyone else a bit bemused last night by Keown saying we were dead and buried and playing for pride (not a strange view) but then saying in the same breath Sunderland have a great chance of staying up?! The gap is 4 points, smaller distance than between Leicester and Arsenal.

It's not impossible that if we get 4 points from the next two we could be above Sunderland or one point behind them.

I like Keown as a pundit but just thought it was odd statement.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: DeKuip on February 08, 2016, 12:06:35 PM
Anyone else a bit bemused last night by Keown saying we were dead and buried and playing for pride (not a strange view) but then saying in the same breath Sunderland have a great chance of staying up?! The gap is 4 points, smaller distance than between Leicester and Arsenal.

It's not impossible that if we get 4 points from the next two we could be above Sunderland or one point behind them.

I like Keown as a pundit but just thought it was odd statement.
Not really, with Defoe in the team Sunderland have more chance of winning games than we do. We're defending better but in reality we don't have enough goalscoring capability in the team to turn draws into wins or rescue points when we fall behind like Sunderland managed on Saturday.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: rougegorge on February 08, 2016, 12:54:34 PM
It's going to be really hard to get out of this; even though we did much better on Saturday it's in the context of opponents who are in free-fall at the moment.

At the same stage last year Leicester were within 9 points of 6 other teams.

                      Pld     F     A   Pts
13   C Palace   24   26   34   26
14   Sun'land   25   22   36   24
15   Hull           25   23   34   23
16   WBA         24   22   34   23
17   QPR          25   26   43   22
18   Villa          25   12   34   22
19   Burnley     24   23   40   21
20   Leicester  25   22   40   17

We only have 3 teams currently within that range and we have to get past 3 other sides.

We were 19th at this stage three seasons ago after an appalling league and cup run, but had another 7 sides within 9 points.

At the risk of sounding like someone who made poor football and results almost an acceptable norm, we just have to keep going.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: SoccerHQ on February 08, 2016, 01:05:41 PM
Anyone else a bit bemused last night by Keown saying we were dead and buried and playing for pride (not a strange view) but then saying in the same breath Sunderland have a great chance of staying up?! The gap is 4 points, smaller distance than between Leicester and Arsenal.

It's not impossible that if we get 4 points from the next two we could be above Sunderland or one point behind them.

I like Keown as a pundit but just thought it was odd statement.
Not really, with Defoe in the team Sunderland have more chance of winning games than we do. We're defending better but in reality we don't have enough goalscoring capability in the team to turn draws into wins or rescue points when we fall behind like Sunderland managed on Saturday.

It balances out though, Sunderland back 4 as a unit is worse than ours so I think they'll concede more than we do in the run in.

Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Risso on February 08, 2016, 03:39:04 PM
The table would look very different now if we hadn't been cheated out of at least 4 points in the last few games, but there we go.

If we're going to stand a chance, and it would only be a remote chance, we need to string a couple more wins together in short order.  Liverpool, Stoke and Everton are all perfectly beatable on their day, and two wins out of those would have those above us starting to worry again.  For most of the season, I expect they've all been fighting to avoid the final two relegation places, rather than all three, so we need to do it now.  No point waiting for us to get relegated THEN winning three games on the bounce once the pressure is off.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: KevinGage on February 08, 2016, 07:08:50 PM
Aye, I think three on the  bounce will do it - give us a fighting chance, that is.

That, or doing what QPR managed a few years back under Hughes in his first season,  with a run of winning most of their remaining home games.

If we had even a vaguely competent Premier League centre forward I'd be much more confident.

But then if we had one of those, we wouldn't be in this mess in the first place.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: IFWaters on February 08, 2016, 07:18:50 PM
I think the next 2 games we really have to narrow the gap on those above us. It will put them under a lot of pressure.

Us - Liverpool at home, Stoke away - we have to aim for 4 points, take us on to 20.
Sunderland - Man U at home, West Ham away, say 1 point, 21 points.
Norwich - West Ham at home, Leicester away, 1 point, 24 points.
Newcastle - Chelsea away, home to Man City postponed due to LC Final, so 0 pts, 24 points.
Swansea - Southampton home, Tottenham away, 1 point, 28 points

I dont think the above is la la land, by the end of Feb we could be right back in it.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: BC Villain on February 08, 2016, 07:48:34 PM
Another little Englander?

http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2016/02/08/tony-gale-urges-remi-garde-to-stick-by-aston-villas-british-play/?utm_medium=share%20service&utm_campaign=social%20media&utm_source=twitter&utm_content=HITCastonvilla
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: The Laughing Policeman on February 08, 2016, 08:22:31 PM
Tony fucking Gale? He's just a bag of wind.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: German James on February 08, 2016, 08:25:09 PM
"Villa need to persist with the British players ahead of some of the foreign players because they know what's needed in the relegation fight."

No relegation in France, then?
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Ian. on February 08, 2016, 08:44:09 PM
"Villa need to persist with the British players ahead of some of the foreign players because they know what's needed in the relegation fight."

No relegation in France, then?
Ok then, so we drop our foreign contingent for who exactly?
Bring in Sinclair, Hutton, Clark and Richards? That'll do it, we're saved. I hope your reading this Remi.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: cdbearsfan on February 08, 2016, 08:52:01 PM
I expect Gale probably regards Clark and Hutton as "foreign",  anyway.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: OCD on February 08, 2016, 09:28:52 PM
Gale was on SSN saying we were looking better because we had dropped the foreign players. That just about sums up his comments.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: OzVilla on February 08, 2016, 09:39:03 PM
He's a dipstick. Same as Cascarino.

 
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: old man villa fan on February 08, 2016, 09:44:49 PM
Gale was on SSN saying we were looking better because we had dropped the foreign players. That just about sums up his comments.

Hutton, Richards, Richardson?  No, he must of meant the Yank in goal!
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Percy McCarthy on February 09, 2016, 12:33:42 AM
Gale was on SSN saying we were looking better because we had dropped the foreign players. That just about sums up his comments.

What a prat he is. And gets paid a fortune for this crap.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Matt C on February 09, 2016, 02:51:30 AM
Another member of the old boys club. We need more 'honest' British players like Hutton & Richardson according to them and promotion from the Championship is only possible if you apoint Allardyce, McCarthy, Warnock or some other washed up British manager. Utter bollocks.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Clampy on February 09, 2016, 08:08:11 AM
Gale was on SSN saying we were looking better because we had dropped the foreign players. That just about sums up his comments.

What foreign players have we dropped? I really don't believe some of the dross some people are paid to come out with.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: brian green on February 09, 2016, 08:17:42 AM
They are basically bone idle.  They churn out pap because they have neither the intelligence or the energy to do anything else.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Holte L2 on February 09, 2016, 08:40:51 AM
Gale was on SSN saying we were looking better because we had dropped the foreign players. That just about sums up his comments.

What foreign players have we dropped? I really don't believe some of the dross some people are paid to come out with.

I didn't realise Cissokho, Okore, Bacuna, Gil, Gana, Veretout had now got British passports.  How does that prat Gayle get paid to be interviewed?
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Dave on February 09, 2016, 09:04:59 AM
Gale was on SSN saying we were looking better because we had dropped the foreign players. That just about sums up his comments.

What foreign players have we dropped? I really don't believe some of the dross some people are paid to come out with.

Guzan. But I'm guessing that's not what he meant.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: AV82EC on February 09, 2016, 09:08:13 AM
Gale was on SSN saying we were looking better because we had dropped the foreign players. That just about sums up his comments.

What foreign players have we dropped? I really don't believe some of the dross some people are paid to come out with.

I didn't realise Cissokho, Okore, Bacuna, Gil, Gana, Veretout had now got British passports.  How does that prat Gayle get paid to be interviewed?

Coming up after the break, even more clueless bollocks from a washed up ex-pro who's willing to sound like a bellend on national TV proving he had more in his feet than between his ears. Also the clueless vacant staring blonde next to me has done a photoshoot for FHM in which she reveals she has more in her bra than between her ears.

Sky Sports News, the home of brainless automatons and the promotion of Premier League corporatism.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Villa in Denmark on February 09, 2016, 09:19:45 AM
Gale was on SSN saying we were looking better because we had dropped the foreign players. That just about sums up his comments.

What foreign players have we dropped? I really don't believe some of the dross some people are paid to come out with.

I didn't realise Cissokho, Okore, Bacuna, Gil, Gana, Veretout had now got British passports.  How does that prat Gayle get paid to be interviewed?

Because he's a prat who deals in "easy narratives", "consensus narratives" and utter f##king bollocks that fits the media agenda. He could just as easily be reading it from a script.

Media darling Nice but Tim gets sacked.
Nice but Tim starts spouting about how he never wanted the players signed from France.
Nasty Villa then have the temerity to appoint a "not a proper English relegation fighter". Even worse he's French.
Poor form continues - it's that French blokes fault, plus all those French players. - Ignore the fact that they're barely getting a look in.
Form starts to turn around - It must be because he's starting to pick the good old British players - Ignore the fact that where possible they've been dropped for the foreign recruits.

Future narrative - Any upturn in form, glimmer of hope etc, must be because the stupid Frenchman has finally seen sense and has dropped all those nasty foreigners and started playing the goold old British pro's.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on February 09, 2016, 09:49:38 AM
wrong thread
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Brend'Watkins on February 09, 2016, 09:51:00 AM
The one slight positive I can take from being relegated is that I will dispense with Sky sports and wont have to suffer all the crap that is spouted by average one time players....but that won't be happening because we will get the 7 wins and a couple of draws that keeps us in the division.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on February 09, 2016, 12:27:51 PM
The biggest problem I have with them is that virtually none of them speak from a position of authority.  Neville on Manchester United - I kind of get that, Carragher on Liverpool, definitely understand that.  Merson on us - sort of.  But Tony Gale on Aston Villa?  His only tenuous link to us is getting sent off in a Cup semi final at Villa Park once. I will give him this, he is fair minded during his commentaries.  People who speak about us that have no clue as to the inner workings are the likes of Le Tissier (fabulous player, garbage pundit), Nicholas (still smarting from his mate Lambo getting the sack), Jermaine Jenas (what a fcukin chump), Savage (massive wind up prick), Ian Wright (stick to Arsenal mate).   
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 09, 2016, 12:34:49 PM
Gale was on SSN saying we were looking better because we had dropped the foreign players. That just about sums up his comments.

What foreign players have we dropped? I really don't believe some of the dross some people are paid to come out with.

After doing his research Gale meant for the Norwich game, Garde saw sense to drop Amavi, Traore, Guzan, Kozak, Ayew and Gestede. That's why we won.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: TheMalandro on February 09, 2016, 01:04:21 PM
Gale was on SSN saying we were looking better because we had dropped the foreign players. That just about sums up his comments.

What foreign players have we dropped? I really don't believe some of the dross some people are paid to come out with.

After doing his research Gale meant for the Norwich game, Garde saw sense to drop Amavi, Traore, Guzan, Kozak, Ayew and Gestede. That's why we won.

Garde also asked Sherwood for his advice on tactics for the game.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on February 09, 2016, 01:08:51 PM
Could be a coincidence, but Tony Gale did win the Premier League with Blackburn, playing alongside Timbo. Maybe they're mates? 
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: chrisw1 on February 09, 2016, 01:13:43 PM
Another member of the old boys club. We need more 'honest' British players like Hutton & Richardson according to them and promotion from the Championship is only possible if you apoint Allardyce, McCarthy, Warnock or some other washed up British manager. Utter bollocks.

I suspect Pulis will be available this summer so we may be in luck...
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: PaulWinch again on February 09, 2016, 02:07:30 PM
Tony Gale is a fucking idiot.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Axl Rose on February 09, 2016, 02:24:40 PM
Tony Gale, Tim Sherwood-2 testicles on an archaic Britidh is best penis.

Fuck the pair of them.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Brown, Arce, Hole on February 09, 2016, 02:28:36 PM
'Also the clueless vacant staring blonde next to me has done a photoshoot for FHM in which she reveals she has more in her bra than between her ears'.

Do you have a link? Purely for research purposes.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: brian green on February 09, 2016, 02:57:33 PM
As someone who has actually seen Brown, Arce, and Hole actually play may I enquire how a ladies mammaries would appear in that well respected organ the Free Highlands Messenger well known for its in depth articles on kilts, sporrans and vegan haggis?
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: joe_c on February 09, 2016, 03:10:46 PM
Tony Gale is a fucking idiot.

I remember a few years ago someone posting audio commentary of the 4-0 win at Blackburn from either the club or a local station and one of the commentators was practically sobbing over the injustice of it all. Was that him? It was an estuary accent rather a Lancs one so could well be.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Percy McCarthy on February 09, 2016, 05:56:01 PM
Tony Gale is a fucking idiot.

I remember a few years ago someone posting audio commentary of the 4-0 win at Blackburn from either the club or a local station and one of the commentators was practically sobbing over the injustice of it all. Was that him? It was an estuary accent rather a Lancs one so could well be.

Yes, I remember that. It was him.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Villa in Denmark on February 09, 2016, 09:42:56 PM
Tony Gale is a fucking idiot.

He's not that clever.

He always comes across as someone who's a miracle of modern gene manipulation.  He's talking bollocks.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: SoccerHQ on February 09, 2016, 11:11:14 PM
Tony Gale is a fucking idiot.

I remember a few years ago someone posting audio commentary of the 4-0 win at Blackburn from either the club or a local station and one of the commentators was practically sobbing over the injustice of it all. Was that him? It was an estuary accent rather a Lancs one so could well be.

He was on Soccer Special after that game and was adamant Blackburn would still finish above us in the league.

It was quite close in fairness but think we finished 5-6 points ahead in the end.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: pauliewalnuts on February 09, 2016, 11:14:20 PM
Tony Gale is a fucking idiot.

I remember a few years ago someone posting audio commentary of the 4-0 win at Blackburn from either the club or a local station and one of the commentators was practically sobbing over the injustice of it all. Was that him? It was an estuary accent rather a Lancs one so could well be.

He was on Soccer Special after that game and was adamant Blackburn would still finish above us in the league.

It was quite close in fairness but think we finished 5-6 points ahead in the end.

I also recall him being on SSN once going on about how West Ham were a bigger club than Villa.

What a fucking idiot.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: castlefields_villan on February 11, 2016, 05:20:57 PM
Tony Gale is a fucking idiot.

I remember a few years ago someone posting audio commentary of the 4-0 win at Blackburn from either the club or a local station and one of the commentators was practically sobbing over the injustice of it all. Was that him? It was an estuary accent rather a Lancs one so could well be.

He was on Soccer Special after that game and was adamant Blackburn would still finish above us in the league.

It was quite close in fairness but think we finished 5-6 points ahead in the end.

I also recall him being on SSN once going on about how West Ham were a bigger club than Villa.

What a fucking idiot.

I'm not aware West Ham have ever been champions of England ?  They may have won the FA Cup 3 times since we last won it BUT did as much as we'd like to get an 8th win, did winning the FA Cup make Coventry, Wigan, The Olbion and Wimbledon bigger than us ????????

Don't even start me on champions of Europe -- Oh I forgot, they did win the now defunct Cup Winners Cup 50 or so years ago.

Anybody going to let me know how many years they've spent in the elite league - I don't know, but I'd say it's nowhere near as many years as us.   Oh and one other thing, I only went to Upton Park 3 times (1976, that FA Cup game and 1983) and I'm not sorry I'll never go there again.

Sorry for the rant, but I've never forgotten that FA Cup game and how they've dined out on 1966 and being the blue eyed boys of football ever since.  I stopped watching Eastenders years ago as well !
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Chris Harte on February 11, 2016, 05:57:20 PM
I'm not aware West Ham have ever been champions of England ?  They may have won the FA Cup 3 times since we last won it BUT did as much as we'd like to get an 8th win, did winning the FA Cup make Coventry, Wigan, The Olbion and Wimbledon bigger than us ????????

Don't even start me on champions of Europe -- Oh I forgot, they did win the now defunct Cup Winners Cup 50 or so years ago.

Anybody going to let me know how many years they've spent in the elite league - I don't know, but I'd say it's nowhere near as many years as us.   Oh and one other thing, I only went to Upton Park 3 times (1976, that FA Cup game and 1983) and I'm not sorry I'll never go there again.

Sorry for the rant, but I've never forgotten that FA Cup game and how they've dined out on 1966 and being the blue eyed boys of football ever since.  I stopped watching Eastenders years ago as well !
To be fair, we've neva wan tha wald caap.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: eddiemunster on February 13, 2016, 12:44:32 PM
For the past few days, I have played FM2016 as the Aston Villa manager, playing a 4-3-3 formation as per Remi Garde and I've yet to get past the end of January, without being sacked. I've re-started the game each time I've got the sack, now 6 times and tried different squad variations but the best points total I had by the end of January was 20 (lowest was 5). Just goes to show that the players we have are just as SHITE in a pc game as in real life.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Smirker on February 13, 2016, 12:46:23 PM
For the past few days, I have played FM2016 as the Aston Villa manager, playing a 4-3-3 formation as per Remi Garde and I've yet to get past the end of January, without being sacked. I've re-started the game each time I've got the sack, now 6 times and tried different squad variations but the best points total I had by the end of January was 20 (lowest was 5). Just goes to show that the players we have are just as SHITE in a pc game as in real life.

 ;D
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: myf on February 13, 2016, 02:43:49 PM
Mountain to climb
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Mellin on February 13, 2016, 02:50:55 PM
That Sunderland win changes little at this moment in time. The gap to 17th is still the same. Hopefully it was a blip and they don't go a run, mind.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: castlefields_villan on February 13, 2016, 02:56:43 PM
Still just means we HAVE to WIN games - there's still time (just)
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 13, 2016, 03:01:47 PM
We still need 20+ points from our 13 games to have a chance. While it's a shitter that they won, we win Sunday and Norwich and Newcastle lose today we're only 5 points from safety.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: QuintonVilla on February 13, 2016, 04:16:18 PM
10 points adrift (again) behind Norwich as it stands.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 13, 2016, 04:17:56 PM
Lovely, to follow Sunderland beating that bag of shit Man U now Norwich winning.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 13, 2016, 04:20:22 PM
If, as has looked likely for a while, we drop it won't be because of today's results. It's that woeful run of home results where 5 of the 6 home games were Sunderland, Bitters, Stoke, Swansea and Watford. We took 1 point. Throw in the games at Sunderland and Norwich  and that 1 point from those 7 is the killer.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 13, 2016, 04:26:10 PM
yep
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Villa in Denmark on February 13, 2016, 04:27:31 PM
Indeed. Even a 4 or 5 point return, which in itself would have been pathetic, would have given us a realistic chance rather than close to no chance.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: IFWaters on February 13, 2016, 04:33:05 PM
Swansea losing

So from 5 games so far today ...
Sunderland BAD
Norwich BAD
Swansea GOOD
Bournemouth GOOD
Bitters BAD

Annoyingly would leave us 10 points off safety depending on Newcastle later but with tomorrows game in hand ...
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: IFWaters on February 13, 2016, 04:36:07 PM
Now Norwich drawing !

Letsbeavinyou !!!!
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 13, 2016, 04:37:33 PM
If Norwich do draw or even hopefully lose this could destroy them having already lost 5 on the spin and then blowing a 2 goal lead.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: IFWaters on February 13, 2016, 04:59:45 PM
Sunderland BAD
Bournemouth GOOD
Swansea GOOD
Norwich GOOD
Bitters BAD
Palace GOOD - 1 point from 7 games, ok they are on 32 but going nowhere.

The 6 teams above us picked up 7 points. About what you would expect. We win tomorrow and we close the gap on the bunch ahead. Dont worry too much about Sunderland game on its own.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: QuintonVilla on February 13, 2016, 05:01:23 PM
Newcastle lose now and we win tomorrow we'll only be 5 points off safety somehow. Trouble is I can't see us winning tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 13, 2016, 05:03:54 PM
As long as Newcastle lose it's actually not a disaster of a day. If anyone had to win at least it was a side inside the bottom 3 so we're still 'only' 8 from safety rather than 10 or 11.

The Bitters won't drop as Pulis will always jam enough games like today. Destroyed by Everton yet comes away with a 1-0 win despite 24% possession, 1 corner and 5 shots with 1 on target. Everton had 34 shots and 6 on target and 14 corners. All according to the Beeb site.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: ez on February 13, 2016, 05:32:43 PM
As long as Newcastle lose it's actually not a disaster of a day. If anyone had to win at least it was a side inside the bottom 3 so we're still 'only' 8 from safety rather than 10 or 11.

The Bitters won't drop as Pulis will always jam enough games like today. Destroyed by Everton yet comes away with a 1-0 win despite 24& possession, 1 corner and 5 shots with 1 on target. Everton had 34 shots and 6 on target and 14 corners. All according to the Beeb site.

The early season form has doomed us which is a pity because at this point in time i'd say we are better than albion.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: QuintonVilla on February 13, 2016, 05:40:02 PM
Newcastle 2 down after 9 minutes. We are staying up!
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: olaftab on February 13, 2016, 05:49:14 PM
As long as Newcastle lose it's actually not a disaster of a day. If anyone had to win at least it was a side inside the bottom 3 so we're still 'only' 8 from safety rather than 10 or 11.
This. From now the only result that matters is one that changes the equation for us negatively in fourth from bottom position.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Chris Harte on February 13, 2016, 08:52:16 PM
As long as Newcastle lose it's actually not a disaster of a day. If anyone had to win at least it was a side inside the bottom 3 so we're still 'only' 8 from safety rather than 10 or 11.
This. From now the only result that matters is one that changes the equation for us negatively in fourth from bottom position.
In truth, earlier today I was thinking something like "thanks a bunch you unch of Manyoo wankers." But the above is quite correct.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Richard E on February 13, 2016, 08:57:07 PM
I know this is a cliche but we just need to concentrate on our own results. If we win matches then we've done all we can.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: SoccerHQ on February 13, 2016, 09:41:53 PM
Goal difference is coming into play now, we're 2 better than Newcastle now which will be important if we get into their range as they'll lose more games in the run in.

We need 4 points from the next two though.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: four fornicholl on February 13, 2016, 09:47:41 PM
Goal difference is coming into play now, we're 2 better than Newcastle now which will be important if we get into their range as they'll lose more games in the run in.

We need 4 points from the next two though.
easy peasy lemon squeezy
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on February 14, 2016, 10:12:33 PM
Please close the thread now.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: LukeJames on February 15, 2016, 01:33:06 AM
I don't want to be in this league any more, for decades we have rolled over to the 'sky 4' at home, letting them come and take the piss without getting out of second gear, niw even fucking clubs like Spurs, Everton and Stoke do it to us, we have fuck all to look forward to by being in this division, we get comprehensively thrashed 3 or 4 times a season, our stadium is dead, our away support has shit miserable trips every other week with the locals reguarly taking the piss.
Dropping down a division, employing a twat like Nigel Pearson to shake the place up, signing somebody like Gary fucking Hooper, who 5 or 6 years ago we'd never have even looked at, to bang the goals in, going mad at winning away at Rotherham.... If thats the kind of shit that is going to reignite the spark then so be it because right now I don't want to stay up if it means more of this bollocks.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: gsbrn68 on February 15, 2016, 07:26:23 AM
100% agree with LukeJames
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: phantom limb on February 15, 2016, 08:06:23 AM
It's like we had a points deduction, we've consistently been 9-10 points behind everyone else. I came to terms with it at Christmas, I'd just like it to be over now. There aren't too many players I'd be sad to see go either.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: levico on February 15, 2016, 09:29:20 AM
Wouldn't it be a good idea to mothball this thread?

Let's reopen it as we struggle against relegation to League 1 next season.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Locko on February 15, 2016, 11:59:16 AM
Wouldn't it be a good idea to mothball this thread?

Let's reopen it as we struggle against relegation to League 1 next season.
Good idea, Fozzie, Gonzo, and Kermit on the board aren't going to come up with a plan that will enable us to bounce right back, the club has been on the slide for over five years now. I can't see the current incumbents arresting our decline and I don't see us bottoming out for a while yet.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Boz on February 15, 2016, 12:11:09 PM
Wouldn't it be a good idea to mothball this thread?

Let's reopen it as we struggle against relegation to League 1 next season.

Good idea
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: pbavfckuwait on February 15, 2016, 12:19:33 PM
No plot end off.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Chris Jameson on February 15, 2016, 12:33:40 PM
Use the spoiler button please if you're going to make such revelations
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Des Little on February 15, 2016, 12:34:45 PM
Can someone please remove the lifeless corpse from the barbed wire fence please?
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Meanwood Villa on February 15, 2016, 04:16:06 PM
Win our next one and this thread will get a bump.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on February 15, 2016, 08:14:49 PM
We are Ives on the lying on the barbed wire fence in The Great Escape.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: avfcpg on February 15, 2016, 08:48:16 PM
Win our next one and this thread will get a bump.
April then...:-)
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on February 28, 2016, 12:32:00 PM
So that's no points from the first two games.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: clash city rocker on February 28, 2016, 12:36:25 PM
It's a bit like walking around the corner and being faced with 50 Millwall fans. No point in panicking just take your kicking and hope you come out of it in one piece.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: aj2k77 on February 28, 2016, 01:05:46 PM
It's a bit like walking around the corner and being faced with 50 Millwall fans. No point in panicking just take your kicking and hope you come out of it in one piece.

I think it was around 1989-90, anyway, Villa had just played a midweek home game against Milwall. It was dark anyway and me and my dad turned down a side road off Trinity Road to be faced by around 15 Milwall fans, some bizarrely dressed as Surgeons, breaking in to a couple of cars. Thankfully I was only little so they must have took pity on us and instead of getting a hiding they offered us a lift home. My old man declined.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on February 28, 2016, 01:22:24 PM
Millwalls Bushwhackers the young element of their firm dressed up as surgeons I think.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Witton Warrior on February 28, 2016, 01:36:56 PM
Millwalls Bushwhackers the young element of their firm dressed up as surgeons I think.

Treatment? Wolves aped it with their hilarious Clan masks in the late 70's - or was it butcher's aprons?
We never wore fancy dress to fight people as I recall?
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Locko on February 28, 2016, 11:18:02 PM
Mothball this thread for at least nine months please...
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: QuintonVilla on March 02, 2016, 11:47:08 AM
So what game do we all think relegation will be confirmed? It's a toss up between Man Utd away or Southampton at home the week later for me. Man Utd would be fitting given our record against them.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: clash city rocker on March 02, 2016, 11:52:40 AM
End of January it was confirmed.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: OzVilla on March 02, 2016, 11:59:58 AM
I predicted it'd be Manchester United away back in December.

Will there be a prize?
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: ez on March 02, 2016, 08:45:56 PM
I was thinking, this must be one of the longest periods in our history where our league position hasn't changed.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: QuintonVilla on March 02, 2016, 10:11:14 PM
How are we still 'only' 8 points off safety? It feels like we should be about 15 points adrift by now. Makes it a bit more painful and leaves you wondering what if? It wouldn't have taken miracles because Norwich, Newcastle and Sunderland can't get out of trouble and are all crap.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: LukeJames on March 02, 2016, 10:17:05 PM
I was just about to post something similar, I expected us to be around 12-14 off safety but was shocked to see its still 8.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: curiousorange on March 02, 2016, 10:17:43 PM
The fact that it's still possible is even more galling. You would imagine even if we were to string three wins together over the next three games, Newcastle, Sunderland and Norwich would all win as well just to take the piss.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: montague on March 02, 2016, 10:18:23 PM
The other results couldn't have gone much better for us over the least few weeks which makes the January window surrender even more frustrating. Too many tough games coming up now.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: saunders_heroes on March 02, 2016, 10:22:28 PM
As has been said by loads on here, we wouldn't even have to be that good to get out of trouble.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: QuintonVilla on March 02, 2016, 10:23:49 PM
I think Norwich will come down with us, which leaves one spot between Sunderland and Newcastle. If I had to stick my neck on the line I'd say Newcastle will stay up, their fixtures aren't too bad. Imagine if we relegated them with us though on the last home game, that could be the only glory we get this season and would tip them over the edge after 2009.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: mr underhill on March 03, 2016, 05:24:45 AM
Being relegated with the Jawdies and Blunderland would make getting back up at the first attempt very difficult.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Witton Warrior on March 03, 2016, 08:07:23 AM
Being relegated with the Jawdies and Blunderland would make getting back up at the first attempt very difficult.

Taking the long-view - I like it Mr Underhill
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: mr underhill on March 03, 2016, 09:12:58 AM
I just think that those 2 are slightly less dysfunctional than we are and have the experience of the league and winning promotion from it that we don't. Of course a lot depends on who stays who goes and how much coin we will have.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: supertom on March 03, 2016, 11:51:56 AM
I think Norwich will come down with us, which leaves one spot between Sunderland and Newcastle. If I had to stick my neck on the line I'd say Newcastle will stay up, their fixtures aren't too bad. Imagine if we relegated them with us though on the last home game, that could be the only glory we get this season and would tip them over the edge after 2009.
At this point I'd take that. It's at least one thing to look forward to this season. I think Sunderland will edge that battle because as outdated as his anti-football is, Allardyce will pull off the results required, and they've also got Defoe who can get the important goals. Norwich are gone. We're definitely gone. Even as horrendous as the others are, there's no way we'll make up an 8 point gap.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on March 03, 2016, 11:53:07 AM
We're 40/1 to avoid the drop.
Money in the bank.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: supertom on March 03, 2016, 11:54:30 AM
Being relegated with the Jawdies and Blunderland would make getting back up at the first attempt very difficult.

Taking the long-view - I like it Mr Underhill
I think Newcastle were fortunate last time. This time will be harder. I don't see them being in danger of a double drop, but they'll probably bob around mid-table because their squad will get shredded in the summer and Ashley will make a stupid appointment.
Norwich will probably be around the promotion spots.
As for us, that's anyones guess. It could be horrific, or we could stabilise and come straight back or somewhere in between.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Villa in Denmark on March 03, 2016, 08:56:09 PM
I think Norwich will come down with us, which leaves one spot between Sunderland and Newcastle. If I had to stick my neck on the line I'd say Newcastle will stay up, their fixtures aren't too bad. Imagine if we relegated them with us though on the last home game, that could be the only glory we get this season and would tip them over the edge after 2009.

There's absolutely no glory in that being the pinnacle of our achievements this season.

It would however be funny as f¤¤k.  The day they come to town to take the piss and go home crying into their bare beer bellies.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: andyh on March 06, 2016, 08:00:41 PM
I have just looked at the remaining fixtures.
I can say in honesty that I would not be suprised f we didn't get another point this season, let alone a win.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: QuintonVilla on March 06, 2016, 09:28:25 PM
The highest we can now finish is 9th. Call off the European tour.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Des Little on March 06, 2016, 09:30:11 PM
The highest we can now finish is 9th. Call off the European tour.

Only 9th? Sack the board
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Chris Jameson on March 06, 2016, 10:06:04 PM
I looked at our remaining fixtures today and without knowing who Newcastle, Sunderland and Norwich have got was trying to work out when we 'd be relegated. Man United away was my guess.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: cdbearsfan on March 06, 2016, 10:07:54 PM
I hope we get relegated on a day when we aren't actually playing so our neighbours can't have the enjoyment of seeing Villa fans crying on the telly.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Chris Harte on March 06, 2016, 10:12:34 PM
If I had to predict it, we'll be relegated on the day we play Southampton at home on St George's Day, April 23rd.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Jimbo on March 06, 2016, 10:15:21 PM
Any Villa fan above the age of 8 caught crying should be given a proper reason to cry. We were gone the moment the transfer window closed and the board betrayed Remi Garde.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Chris Harte on March 06, 2016, 10:16:18 PM
Any Villa fan above the age of 8 caught crying should be given a proper reason to cry. We were gone the moment the transfer window closed and the board betrayed Remi Garde.
Yeah, can't disagree.

By the above I meant mathematically.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Chris Jameson on March 06, 2016, 10:22:58 PM
The cameras are bound to find an adult in a jesters hat wearing a half and half scarf bawling their eyes out.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: walsall villain on March 06, 2016, 10:31:13 PM
Really hope we won't be having a Plot to escape relegation thread - 2017. This is one annual debate we can all do without.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Chris Smith on March 06, 2016, 10:38:18 PM
The cameras are bound to find an adult in a jesters hat wearing a half and half scarf bawling their eyes out.

If they do I will try to make it look ironic.


In all seriousness everyone has had so long to get used to it I think it will be more of a shrug of the shoulders and then talk about the cricket.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: cdbearsfan on March 06, 2016, 10:41:19 PM
Really hope we won't be having a Plot to escape relegation thread - 2017. This is one annual debate we can all do without.

The Plot a Route out of Administration Thread 2017.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 06, 2016, 10:41:23 PM
I'm not too proud to admit that leaving VP after the Sheff Weds game I had some dust in my eyes.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: QuintonVilla on March 06, 2016, 10:57:48 PM
Most of us have thought we've been down since the Norwich and Sunderland games in December/January so when it is finally confirmed it will be a 'meh' feeling. We all know we're going down, it's just a case of when. It's not like we're going to be relegated in final day heartbreak and despair, we'll be down by the middle of April. Even now I get people saying to me 'you're going down', my response is simply 'I know yeah'. They don't know what to say then.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: pauliewalnuts on March 07, 2016, 09:01:20 AM
The cameras are bound to find an adult in a jesters hat wearing a half and half scarf bawling their eyes out.

If they do I will try to make it look ironic.


In all seriousness everyone has had so long to get used to it I think it will be more of a shrug of the shoulders and then talk about the cricket.

That's exactly my take on it.

The last four years fighting relegation and escaping with a game or two left, had we actually got relegated in those circumstances, I would have been absolutely gutted.

This, though, is totally different. We have been mentally gone for months already. The total failure to bring in a single player in January was the clearest indication the club had given up. Yep, I know we tried to sign that goalkeeper, but even that wouldn't have been enough.

It's like having a loved pet who is really ill for a long time, and in the end you stick it in a bag with some rocks and chuck it into the canal take it to the vets to be put to sleep - you've become used to the fact it is going to happen for so long, it feels like a relief.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Jimbo on March 07, 2016, 09:09:50 AM
Agree about the relief, Paulie. It will be like splitting up with someone when the relationship's been on the rocks for some time. It comes as a relief, but the damage has been done and sooner or later you have to deal with it.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Des Little on March 07, 2016, 11:49:54 AM
 I've long since accepted it.  What I'm worried about now is our ability to put an infrastructure in place to get us back up, or at least not plummet down further.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on March 07, 2016, 11:57:00 AM
Agree about the relief, Paulie. It will be like splitting up with someone when the relationship's been on the rocks for some time. It comes as a relief, but the damage has been done and sooner or later you have to deal with it.

I agree, except in our case we've just found out we've picked up an STD.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: mr underhill on March 07, 2016, 12:29:56 PM
you mean Herpes, the new guy from South America?
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: D.boy on March 07, 2016, 01:46:43 PM
you mean Herpes, the new guy from South America?
Who turned up for training on his first day and surveyed the dysfunctional fuckwits trying to pass to each other and thought "I'm a gonna here!"
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: saunders_heroes on March 07, 2016, 02:37:16 PM
I noticed Harry Redknapp is the latest to stick his oar in regarding the state of Villa. Scary thing is I agree with most of it.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Duncan Shaw on March 07, 2016, 03:16:17 PM
Most of us have thought we've been down since the Norwich and Sunderland games in December/January so when it is finally confirmed it will be a 'meh' feeling. We all know we're going down, it's just a case of when. It's not like we're going to be relegated in final day heartbreak and despair, we'll be down by the middle of April. Even now I get people saying to me 'you're going down', my response is simply 'I know yeah'. They don't know what to say then.
Yes that's the one for me too, alot of them look really quite bemused. 

I was offered a lifeline by my boss last week though, we'd had a tenner on us staying up and he offered me double or quits on us being down by Easter Monday.  Now I don't know if he realised how early Easter was, he knows we're really shite, but I think he gives those above us too much credit to open up enough of a gap by then, so hopefully we'll squeak passed that and I'll save myself a tenner!
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on March 07, 2016, 06:12:35 PM
I noticed Harry Redknapp is the latest to stick his oar in regarding the state of Villa. Scary thing is I agree with most of it.

To be fair he did call us a great club with great tradition.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Caribbeanvillan on March 07, 2016, 07:37:11 PM
Even today I look at the league table and think "two wins and we are in the mix again"......
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: clash city rocker on March 07, 2016, 07:52:52 PM
When it officially happens I think it will be a strange feeling even though we know it is coming. A sort of emptiness with regrets about what could of been. A bit like a pools winner who has blown the lot and is now on their uppers. It will be sad and I will probably drink an obscene amount of rioja on the day it finally happens.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Villafirst on March 07, 2016, 07:56:38 PM
Even today I look at the league table and think "two wins and we are in the mix again"......

Yes, I know what you mean. So frustrating that Lerner didn't invest in January - even with expensive loan signings, which could've yielded 2 extra wins to put us within touching distance of the teams immediately above us. I don't think Lerner has a single brain cell in that thick head of his!!
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: class-of-82 on March 07, 2016, 07:57:31 PM
Caribbeanvilla
I been thinking like that since the 6th game of the season
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: VancouverLion on March 07, 2016, 08:00:33 PM
Even today I look at the league table and think "two wins and we are in the mix again"......
Or 3 wins and we could possibly be out of the bottom 3 with the others losing each week.

Then my heart sinks and my stomach turns when I realize our current squad of complete arse h***s would struggle to win 3 in 9 months let alone 9 games.

Sad days my friends.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: exigo on March 07, 2016, 08:21:44 PM
Even today I look at the league table and think "two wins and we are in the mix again"......
Or 3 wins and we could possibly be out of the bottom 3 with the others losing each week.

Then my heart sinks and my stomach turns when I realize our current squad of complete arse h***s would struggle to win 3 in 9 months let alone 9 games.

Sad days my friends.

We could just be four games away from relegation. Don't let the hope get to you.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: cdward on March 07, 2016, 08:34:58 PM
At least we know we are down.
In a fans forum somewhere right now there is a thread identical to this, where the fans of Newcastle/Sunderland/Norwich are convinced they will escape.
It is going to hit them harder.
Title: Re: The Plot To Escape Relegation Thread - 2016
Post by: Villa in Denmark on March 07, 2016, 09:28:17 PM
At least we know we are down.
In a fans forum somewhere right now there is a thread identical to this, where the fans of Newcastle/Sunderland/Norwich are convinced they will escape.
It is going to hit them harder.

It would be just like this bunch to suddenly find a spurt from somewhere and pick up enough points to prolong the agony into late April before quietly failing with a whimper.
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