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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Nelly on January 23, 2016, 10:55:28 PM
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Some online reports talking about rumours that Randy is lining up his 18 year old son for a board room position at Villa. Possibly as eyes and ears.
If that's the case, I have to wonder, why now? Good for Max though, living the dream. But it's all a bit strange.
Both reports from The Mirror:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/jack-grealish-felt-aston-villa-7235677 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/jack-grealish-felt-aston-villa-7235677)
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/aston-villa-owner-randy-lerner-7234447 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/aston-villa-owner-randy-lerner-7234447)
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Just posted this on the Lerner thread. 18 year old on the board!!!
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I dont think putting your teenage son in the firing line for fans ire is a good idea.
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Lerners out.
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To be 'on the board' implies a certain level of power in terms of decison making. That's a bit scary. Then again apparently he's a fan, so maybe he's the voice we're looking for.
Nastylee sorry, I saw your post after I started this thread. It can be merged if need be. :)
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This is fuckin mental.
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Is it due to Rudy's pulled hammy?
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Wasn't he Superman's nemesis?
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I think he was on the Kenny Everett Video Show.
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Didn't Lerner Jnr post on here
Or was that General Jnr ?
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Breaking news in the transfer thread - Mr Pink is our new assistant manager
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Why do I envision him looking like a Harry Enfield character?
If this were to be true it would only reinforce just how utterly ridiculously our club is being run. But this is coming from the Mirror...
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This sounds like a really good idea.
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Surely this is a joke?
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Lerner is a loon, we already knew that. Wish he'd fuck off.
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Well that would be a stupid step. What makes an 18 year old fit to carry out boardroom duty is behind me but...
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This sounds like a really good idea.
Thought you would say that.
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If this is true, I think it'd be fair to say that Randy Lerner is insane.
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Aha good to hear from you again DC5😊
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Aha good to hear from you again DC5😊
Just a brief visit to check everyone was ok.
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To be 'on the board' implies a certain level of power in terms of decison making. That's a bit scary. Then again apparently he's a fan, so maybe he's the voice we're looking for.
Nastylee sorry, I saw your post after I started this thread. It can be merged if need be. :)
Not necessarily. If he's appointed as a non-executive director (NED) then he has no direct power, although presumably a vote for formal decisions.
As has been mentioned on his father's thread, makes no sense whatsoever in the context of everything else that's been going on and utterly mind blowing if true.
Over and above all that, I can't imagine Hollis being too happy about having him parachuted in immediately after his own appointment. If it was always on the cards then why not announce them together?
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By the start of next season, we will know what power Hollis has. The question is, does he care about his future reputation in business?
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By the start of next season, we will know what power Hollis has. The question is, does he care about his future reputation in business?
We will know in 8 days. If we spend big this window to try and fix the club then we will know Hollis has some intelligence and power. If we sign nobody or spend a pittance again we will know he is just another pointless face on the board.
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By the start of next season, we will know what power Hollis has. The question is, does he care about his future reputation in business?
We will know in 8 days. If we spend big this window to try and fix the club then we will know Hollis has some intelligence and power. If we sign nobody or spend a pittance again we will know he is just another pointless face on the board.
Agreed.
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By the start of next season, we will know what power Hollis has. The question is, does he care about his future reputation in business?
We will know in 8 days. If we spend big this window to try and fix the club then we will know Hollis has some intelligence and power. If we sign nobody or spend a pittance again we will know he is just another pointless face on the board.
Agreed.
Aye, I bloody well hope he comes through.
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By the start of next season, we will know what power Hollis has. The question is, does he care about his future reputation in business?
We will know in 8 days. If we spend big this window to try and fix the club then we will know Hollis has some intelligence and power. If we sign nobody or spend a pittance again we will know he is just another pointless face on the board.
Agreed.
Aye, I bloody well hope he comes through.
It is our only hope.
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By the start of next season, we will know what power Hollis has. The question is, does he care about his future reputation in business?
If he's remotely bothered by his reputation rather than just doing the job as he sees it, then protecting his reputation will require him doing exactly what's required regardless.
His reputation, his primary qualification for getting the job is sorting out failing organisations and getting them functioning again. That's not going to happen if he's listening to outside influences that don't like the medicine, regardless of whether it's AVFC or RBS.
If he's been daft enough to accept the job as Lerner's lackey he's gambling his future on Lerner not selling in the foreseeable future because if he doesn't contribute to turning us around, he's toxic goods himself.
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Why would any father throw his eighteen year old son into what would be a very hostile atmosphere, he wasn't willing to face the Villa supporters I could not imagine he would let his kid take the flak.
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Perhaps its a load of bollocks.
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Why would any father throw his eighteen year old son into what would be a very hostile atmosphere, he wasn't willing to face the Villa supporters I could not imagine he would let his kid take the flak.
What did you expect? The same man appointed McLeish! The man is not fit to be the custodian of AVFC, end of.
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Well at the moment we don't know if it's true, so there could be a lot of hot air and warm piss getting thrown about for no good reason.
However, the fact that, based on some of the mind boggling decisions of the recent past it's remotely plausible is terrifying.
That said, I'm still struggling to see that Lerner, who on the basis of the last few years wants as little as possible to do with us, who in all of his recent statements has at some point mentioned that his family commitments in New York being the primary reason for his withdrawal, who has always appeared to be very protective of his son would then throw his son under the bus. His same son who presumably should be starting uni this autumn?
It makes no sense, but unfortunately you can say that for a lot of the last 5 years.
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Why would any father throw his eighteen year old son into what would be a very hostile atmosphere, he wasn't willing to face the Villa supporters I could not imagine he would let his kid take the flak.
What did you expect? The same man appointed McLeish! The man is not fit to be the custodian of AVFC, end of.
This.
The man has turned us into a laughing stock over 5 painfully long years.
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If Randy wanted to get his son involved in the club as some sort of grounding to a career, he should be getting him an internship in the marketing department (which is, if you believe Fox, a couple of typists and a fax machine).
Putting him on the board, though? At age 18?
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If Randy wanted to get his son involved in the club as some sort of grounding to a career, he should be getting him an internship in the marketing department (which is, if you believe Fox, a couple of typists and a fax machine).
Putting him on the board, though? At age 18?
The original story appears to be source in The Sunday People, part of the Trinity Mirror Group which owns the Mail.
Litigation issues aside, we should have a clear view sooner rather an later.
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If Randy wanted to get his son involved in the club as some sort of grounding to a career, he should be getting him an internship in the marketing department (which is, if you believe Fox, a couple of typists and a fax machine).
Putting him on the board, though? At age 18?
This is par for the course with Mr Lerner I'm afraid. A single shareholder over the whole club can do want he wants. Oh how I wish I still had my 150 shares from 2006! Lerner is a complete lunatic!!
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This sounds like a really good idea.
Thought you would say that.
Are you flirting with me? No need. The answer is YES. I will finger you till kingdom come. And back and sideways, knowing us, you old dog ;-)
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If Randy wanted to get his son involved in the club as some sort of grounding to a career, he should be getting him an internship in the marketing department (which is, if you believe Fox, a couple of typists and a fax machine).
Putting him on the board, though? At age 18?
Which is what it could be off course. An internship if it's even true. But yes if he does get a seat then it's nuts. I see Jack Grealish has called bollocks another Mirror story that he had a fall out with Garde at Wycombe.
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Who on earth would be stupid enough to allow their 18yr old son to walk into this hostile environment? For the sake of the boy and the club.
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fuck outta here, cannot be true.
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True or not it adds to the comedic repertoire of Aston Villa.
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Didn't we all have a fucking good laugh at the rags when they did something similar?
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Maybe this is the thing that Alan Nixon said that "we need and now we're going to get".
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What we need is a centre forward that can score goals.
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True or not it adds to the comedic repertoire of Aston Villa.
This.
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When I was only a couple of years older than Lerner Jnr my father in law took me into his bookmaking business. "But what will I do?" I asked him. "Hold my fucking pencil" he replied. If Max is coming which I very much doubt, it will that kind of arrangement, nothing more.
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I get a vision of Lerner jnr being like the character Tom Hanks played in the film 'Big' when he was playing with his toy skyscraper in the boardroom.
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The thought of an American teenager haviing even a little power whatsoever in any major business is frankly ridicidulous. Might as well put Justin Bieber in as well!
But it is Mr Lerner's club and if he wants to do it he will. Didn't Doug try that? I am sure Peter Ellis was removed from the board for some reason.
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A teenager given the opportunity to playing 'Football Manager 2016' for real.
sick.
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He'll be more competent than his old man. My goldfish could do a better job than Lerner senior...
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Because I'm a nice person, and I don't like having to call people hideously offensive names and generally berate them for their idiocy...
...I'm going to assume this is a wind-up, until further notice.
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Strikes me we are in for a new era of austerity. If my dad put me in charge of a great drain on my inheritance that I had no interest in, I know how I'd react!
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Ridiculous situation if he as apparently suggested is "eyes and ears" for his dad but I would suggest Hollis has dealt with similar situations in his career as long as he really gets a grip and not treat his chair position as nice retirement bonus.
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Let's hope he nicks his Dad's credit card.
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We are the footballing equivalent of a Banana Republic.
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Anyone remember the comedy character Max Headroom?
He'd have to be known as the comedy character Max Boardroom.....
Surely, this whole story is a load of arse-bollocks.
Surely?
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Lerner is a loon, we already knew that. Wish he'd fuck off.
Pretty much this nowadays I'm afraid.
I did read an interview with Ellis a few weeks back and he actually mentioned Max Lerner was coming to a few games but this is ridiculous, up there with that mental Cardiff owner putting his son in charge of transfers or whatever it was.
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I am sure young Max has better things to do like going to a top American uni.
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Anyone remember the comedy character Max Headroom?
He'd have to be known as the comedy character Max Boardroom.....
Surely, this whole story is a load of arse-bollocks.
Surely?
Love it. But yes, let's hope it a steaming pile of shit.
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Lerner is a loon, we already knew that. Wish he'd fuck off.
Pretty much this nowadays I'm afraid.
I did read an interview with Ellis a few weeks back and he actually mentioned Max Lerner was coming to a few games but this is ridiculous, up there with that mental Cardiff owner putting his son in charge of transfers or whatever it was.
Give Lerner Snr time, that could be next!!
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He should be off to Harvard or Yale, not the villa boardroom...the only way I could see it making sense would be if he was going to Oxbridge and taking up a non-executive position. Still doubt it.
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All gone quiet on this. Let's hope it was just someone having a laugh.
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He should be off to Harvard or Yale, not the villa boardroom
Or if he's got his dad's brain, Bolton Poly.
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He should be off to Harvard or Yale, not the villa boardroom
Or if he's got his dad's brain, Bolton Poly.
Or columbia University and Columbia Law School and registration with the District of Columbia Bar Association...
not picking you out but the 'Lerner is so thick' line is getting really dull, he's probably not cut out to run a sports club and he made some mistakes but lets give the thick jibes a rest.
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Are we still allowed to say he's not very bright?
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Are we still allowed to say he's not very bright?
You can say what you like, I just think calling him thick, or not bright is a bit stupid when he's clearly very well educated.
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Are we still allowed to say he's not very bright?
You can say what you like, I just think calling him thick, or not bright is a bit stupid when he's clearly very well educated.
I don't disagree with your general point, I agree that calling somebody thick or stupid is a pretty lazy way of analysing their failings.
But at the same time, a good, expensive education doesn't mean that somebody ISN'T stupid.
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Are we still allowed to say he's not very bright?
You can say what you like, I just think calling him thick, or not bright is a bit stupid when he's clearly very well educated.
That doesn't make him clever though.
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Are we still allowed to say he's not very bright?
You can say what you like, I just think calling him thick, or not bright is a bit stupid when he's clearly very well educated.
I've encountered many people who despite being supposedly 'well educated' haven't been very bright at all. What little I know of him doesn't lead me to believe he's especially bright.
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I'm not saying he's bright, I was very careful to say well educated and I did say he's probably not cut out to run a sports club largely because I don't disagree with you chris, I've met people who are very well educated and I've wondered how they managed to get their qualification. I just don't like the default of 'I'd have done it differently so he must be stupid' or 'he's stopped spending money so calling him a thick yank is justified' (neither of those are remotely intended to be direct quotes before someone gets upset).
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He should be off to Harvard or Yale, not the villa boardroom
Or if he's got his dad's brain, Bolton Poly.
Oi, that's where my wife went! (Not that it ever was a poly).
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Lerner is a loon, we already knew that. Wish he'd fuck off.
24 carat fucking mentalist. A perfect example of what happens when you give someone with a vacuum between the ears a fortune.
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I don't think he's thick, really - it was just a joke.
I do think he's an idiot when it comes to running sporting clubs, though.
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What's wrong with saying he's thick, is it because it's not very nice to say so?
No one seems to have a problem saying these things about Agbonlahor even though probably no one on here knows him personally. A bit of a double standard I think.
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What's wrong with saying he's thick, is it because it's not very nice to say so?
No one seems to have a problem saying these things about Agbonlahor even though probably no one on here knows him personally. A bit of a double standard I think.
*inserts that clip of him trying to put a bib on*
*rests case*
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I don't think Lerner is thick, I don't think he's very bright though. Agbonlahor on the other hand...
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That's unfair. As someone who occasionally has made an arse of himself with bibs, they can at times be more complex a proposition than a krypton factor test, I can say that the bib test is no indication of brightness. And I'm well clever.
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I don't think Lerner is thick, I don't think he's very bright though. Agbonlahor on the other hand...
I agree about Lerner. If he was genuinely thick you may cut him a bit of slack, but what he's done to this club is calculated and deliberate.
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What's wrong with saying he's thick, is it because it's not very nice to say so?
No one seems to have a problem saying these things about Agbonlahor even though probably no one on here knows him personally. A bit of a double standard I think.
*inserts that clip of him trying to put a bib on*
*rests case*
Isn't his dad a doctor and his sister a teacher? He can't be as thick as he looks, surely?
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That's unfair. As someone who occasionally has made an arse of himself with bibs, they can at times be more complex a proposition than a krypton factor test, I can say that the bib test is no indication of brightness. And I'm well clever.
My son is a bit of a maths genius, he doesn't enjoy the subject but it comes naturally to him. He's always being asked to join some maths team but flatly refuses.
Chuck him a bib at football training and you could be there all night whilst he worked out what to do with it.
Agbonlahor is spectacularly thick though.
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Can we agree Lerner has been a bit of a silly-billy?
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Can we agree Lerner has been a bit of a silly-billy?
An absolute wanker would be the perfect words to describe him.
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It is unfair to make judgement on Max. His grandfather Alfred Lerner was good owner for The Browns as he help to get NFL back to Cleveland. Don't know much about Alfred. But Max should have better education in school and probably follow Aston Villa at home. As long Max prepared to move to UK and do a degree in University of Birmingham and be at Villa Park part time he can learn the job, I won't have any objections. As Aston Villa belongs to The Lerner Family Trust (I think)
Give him a role and voice but don't give him power until he is ready maybe after 5 years.
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I don't think Lerner is thick, I don't think he's very bright though. Agbonlahor on the other hand...
I agree about Lerner. If he was genuinely thick you may cut him a bit of slack, but what he's done to this club is calculated and deliberate.
So he's deliberately gone out of his way to lose £100-150M?
That wouldn't be thick, that would be insane.
You can't accept that he's just useless at running a sporting organisation?
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Give him a role and voice but don't give him power until he is ready maybe after 5 years.
Is this part of a 5 year plan?
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Not another 5 year plan!
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well we need a plan if we don't sell the club. No one is buying football clubs these days.
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Not another 5 year plan!
He's doing it to torment you personally.
He's got a book running with Faulkner, Fox, Krulak and MON to see how long it takes to leave you saying W i b b l e.
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Give him a role and voice but don't give him power until he is ready maybe after 5 years.
Is this part of a 5 year plan?
Fuck, I had forgotten all about the five year plan!
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Give him a role and voice but don't give him power until he is ready maybe after 5 years.
Is this part of a 5 year plan?
Fuck, I had forgotten all about the five year plan!
Champions League!
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Give him a role and voice but don't give him power until he is ready maybe after 5 years.
Is this part of a 5 year plan?
Fuck, I had forgotten all about the five year plan!
Champions League!
Brand awareness!!
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Can we agree Lerner has been a bit of a silly-billy?
An absolute wanker would be the perfect words to describe him.
Agreed, although such is his ineptitude I fear he may need help even with that activity...
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I thought things couldn't get any worse and then I read this.
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I quite like my new name!
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I quite like my new name!
Nice try!
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Can we agree Lerner has been a bit of a silly-billy?
An absolute wanker would be the perfect words to describe him.
That's not a nice thing to say. Nobody deserves that from their lover.
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Can we agree Lerner has been a bit of a silly-billy?
An absolute wanker would be the perfect words to describe him.
That's not a nice thing to say. Nobody deserves that from their lover.
Don't get jealous now, Olaftab, I know you've always had a thing for him!
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Yes I know guilty as charged but would like to discover if name Randy really suits him?
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Yes I know guilty as charged but would like to discover if name Randy really suits him?
I don't kiss and tell, Olaftab.
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Can we agree Lerner has been a bit of a silly-billy?
An absolute wanker would be the perfect words to describe him.
That's not a nice thing to say. Nobody deserves that from their lover.
Why is your name now 'Lerner Lover'? What happened?
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I'm wiser than my dad... This might just work.
You can comfortably call Gabby thick. Although I'd happily be that thick and have his career. The raving thicko.
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Can we agree Lerner has been a bit of a silly-billy?
An absolute wanker would be the perfect words to describe him.
That's not a nice thing to say. Nobody deserves that from their lover.
Why is your name now 'Lerner Lover'? What happened?
I changed it, to annoy him There is a very thin line between love and hate, saunders_heroes finally realised he was on the love side of the line.
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Can we agree Lerner has been a bit of a silly-billy?
An absolute wanker would be the perfect words to describe him.
That's not a nice thing to say. Nobody deserves that from their lover.
Why is your name now 'Lerner Lover'? What happened?
I changed it, to annoy him There is a very thin line between love and hate, saunders_heroes finally realised he was on the love side of the line.
Damn, I thought maybe it was like a classic H&V name change where we get some good news and change our names to honour the latest new signing or whatever. When I saw the above I thought we had had some of the best news for a while and Lerner had found the right buyer (I was at a function all day, one of those where your phone is switched off)...now I am disappointed :(
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I was at a function all day, one of those where your phone is switched off
What were you in court for?