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Off Topic => Sports Arena => Topic started by: Villan For Life on January 21, 2016, 12:06:20 PM
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Ian Bell has been confirmed as Bears captain with Chopra standing down to concentrate on his batting.
I think that's a great move and, subject to motivation etc, he will make an excellent Bears captain. I've always been impressed by his captaincy when he's lead the side in the past.
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Very happy with that, Chopra's form has been poor, so either needs to improve now or he gets dropped. Bell will lead from the front.
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Must agree with that decision...good luck Belly!
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Good move all round. Probably suggests that Bell thinks his international career is over, but I'm sure he won't chuck in the towel just yet!
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He always said it was his intention to captain the Bears after finishing international cricket. I am a big fan of his and just wish he had retired at the end of the Ashes and gone out on his own terms. A middle order of Trott, Bell and Hain looks pretty good if they can find their form.
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That's great news, hopefully Bell can add some innovation to what has been a very ordinary brand of cricket for the past couple of years.
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Am I the only one that thinks this is a strange move. I really liked Chopra. Plus has Bell retired from test cricket?
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Am I the only one that thinks this is a strange move. I really liked Chopra. Plus has Bell retired from test cricket?
As AC Villa says, watching the Bears under Chopra's leadership has been very dull and clearly the pressure of captaincy has affected his batting. Bell has not retired from test cricket, he's tweeted today that his appointment as Bears skipper does not detract from his desire to get back into the test side.
I'd be surprised if he does get back in the test side. His game has been in decline since the 2013 home Ashes series and he was close to retirement at the end of the 2015 Ashes. I would imagine the desire for test cricket is not what it was, regardless of what he tweets.
The test side has moved on in his absence and whilst there are questions around a couple of the top order, it would take some really drastic loss of form from a few of them for Bell to get back in. Happy to have him back full-time with the Bears though!
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Good luck Belly; as said, I doubt he'll get back in the England set up unless he scores a hat full of runs at a average of 60 or 70 plus and one of the current squad get injured or are dropped.
COYB!
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In terms of the one day game though Chopra was quite an innovative captain I thought anyway - we won the 20/20 for the first time.
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In terms of the one day game though Chopra was quite an innovative captain I thought anyway - we won the 20/20 for the first time.
How we won that I will never know but win it we did and credit must go to the captain, in some part, for that.
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I have just heard that former Bears player Jack Bannister has passed away, a bit before my time as a player but listened to him commentating on the BBC and Talksport.
He played 19 years for Warwickshire.
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I have just heard that former Bears player Jack Bannister has passed away, a bit before my time as a player but listened to him commentating on the BBC and Talksport.
He played 19 years for Warwickshire.
Sad news, didn't know he was ill. I don't know if it is still accessible, but hew was on "My Sporting Life" with Danny Kelly on Talksport a while back. Worth a listen for any Bears fan or cricket fan in general.
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RIP Jack
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Very sad news on Jack Bannister. Excellent journalist and Commentator. His match analysis in the Birmingham Post used to be fine reading, especially in the mid nineties in the Lara/ Donald era. RIP Jack.
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Yorkshire have re-signed Kane Williamson for June and July next season.
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Ian Bell selected to captain MCC against Yorkshire in season curtain-raiser. The Bears also have a couple of March T20 games against the Windies in March in Dubai.
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Have any Bears members tried the 1882 Club membership?
My main motivation is that the Tom Dollery Lounge and the David Heath Suite get packed during inclement weather. My favourite view is from the Skyline Terrace on the Moseley side, for which I don't think you need any membership for Championship games.
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Does the fact that we are in the Second Division mean that if Warwick make a cup final it might not clash with a Villa home game for the first time in the history of the Universe?
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Does the fact that we are in the Second Division mean that if Warwick make a cup final it might not clash with a Villa home game for the first time in the history of the Universe?
I was sitting there thinking "Warwickshire didn't get relegated last year did they?" I actually checked BBC to make sure I wasn't going mad.
Then the sad reality hit.
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Sorry!
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Does the fact that we are in the Second Division mean that if Warwick make a cup final it might not clash with a Villa home game for the first time in the history of the Universe?
I was sitting there thinking "Warwickshire didn't get relegated last year did they?" I actually checked BBC to make sure I wasn't going mad.
Then the sad reality hit.
Worryingly I thought the same thing, was thinking I'm sure Warks were mid-table last year.
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Well some of us are suffering a double relegation this year..at least being a Pear fan you get accustomed to it.
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There are some similarities between the Pears and the Villa, the chief one being that they often play very well for a session but hardly ever sustain it for a match.
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Edgbaston.com (http://www.edgbaston.com/2662/match-preview-birmingham-bears-v-west-indies.html)
Match Preview: Birmingham Bears v West Indies
By Brian Halford
Birmingham Bears players can’t wait for the challenge of facing West Indies tomorrow in the first of two Twenty20 tussles at the Dubai Stadium.
West Indies are in the United Arab Emirates preparing for the ICC World T20 which starts in India next week.
Not the power of old in the Test arena, Phil Simmons’s side remains very much a force to be reckoned with in white-ball cricket and are gearing up for a serious crack at regaining the trophy they won in 2012.
For the Bears, the games on Friday and Sunday will offer a great opportunity to test themselves against some of the best T20 exponents in the world, says director of cricket Dougie Brown.
"It will be a fantastic chance for our guys to pit themselves against top-class opposition with West Indies preparing for the T20 World Cup,” Brown said. "The guys can’t wait. They have got some really good practice in already since they've been out here, on the back of a lot of hard work through the winter, but they are champing at the bit to play some match cricket.
“We will aim to give a very good account of ourselves in the games against West Indies but a pre-season tour like this is about so much more than the cricket. We have always had a great spirit in the dressing-room and it is trips like this that helps build that.
“As a group you get to spend time with each other and bond, which is great because some of the guys are quite new to the senior group and quite a few have been away during the winter."
The Bears will field a mix of senior professionals and emerging players in both games with captain Ian Bell set to lead them into the first match tomorrow.
A young Bears bowling attack will have to deal with international batsmen coming at them hard in what is a real prestige match for the Club. West Indies’ pre-World Cup itinerary consists of games against Zimbabwe, Birmingham Bears, India and Australia.
The Windies beat Zimbabwe 2-0 in a series which ended with a ten-wicket victory on Monday as Johnson Charles and Andre Fletcher posted an unbeaten century stand as they compete to open with Chris Gayle in the World Cup.
“They are both in a way fighting for a spot as Chris has to come in,” said Simmons. “It’s good for them to show what they have and for us to know that if Chris is not there that we still have people who can do the job up top.”
Bears team for first game v West Indies: I.Bell, V.Chopra, F.Coleman, R.Clarke, A.Javid, A.Umeed, A.Thomason, A.Mellor, O.Hannon-Dalby, R.Jones, J.Poysden.
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COYB.
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Windies make 145-5. Could've been a lot lower, the last pair made 68 off 5 overs.
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Bears 86-1 off 13. Need 60 off 42 balls.
Should do it...
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Getting more difficult...
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Windies v Warwickshire WAR 94-2 (14 overs) Clarke 1* Coleman 13* Target 146 off 20 overs RR 6.7 REQ R 8.7 * 52 to win off 36 balls
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106-3. Need 40 off 25 balls.
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Fucking it up.
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Windies v Warwickshire WAR 112-4 (17.2 overs) Dwayne Bravo 2.2-0-12-3 Target 146 off 20 overs RR 6.5 REQ R 12.8 * 34 to win off 16 balls
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Two overs left. Bears need 29 from 12 balls. 117 for 4
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No Evans and no McCullum = no big hitters.
Need 23 off the last over.
No chance.
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Windies win by thirteen.
Obviously they're a better team than us but we still should've done better from that position. We averaged around five an over off the last eleven overs..
Need a big name batsman for the T20 this Summer.
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From BBC Website
Only one team will be promoted from Division Two of the County Championship this summer in order to reduce the number of top-tier teams in 2017.
A top division of eight teams will be introduced next year, down from nine, with 10 counties in the second.
Each county will now play 14 games rather than 16, while the Royal London One-Day Cup moves to early season.
"The changes for 2017 will be good for fans, players and our international teams," ECB chairman Colin Graves said.
One-Day Cup group games in April and May ahead of a July final does away with the end-of-season Lord's showpiece, and allows the T20 Blast to take centre stage in the second half of the season.
A two-tier T20 Blast has been rejected, at least until the next broadcast deal in 2019, when plans to change the competition to a city-based franchise tournament could also be revived.
Four-day cricket will again largely take a break during July and August.
"The season is easier to follow," Graves added. "The blocks help players focus on specific skills, and there's a better balance across all three formats."
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From BBC Website
Only one team will be promoted from Division Two of the County Championship this summer in order to reduce the number of top-tier teams in 2017.
A top division of eight teams will be introduced next year, down from nine, with 10 counties in the second.
Each county will now play 14 games rather than 16, while the Royal London One-Day Cup moves to early season.
"The changes for 2017 will be good for fans, players and our international teams," ECB chairman Colin Graves said.
One-Day Cup group games in April and May ahead of a July final does away with the end-of-season Lord's showpiece, and allows the T20 Blast to take centre stage in the second half of the season.
A two-tier T20 Blast has been rejected, at least until the next broadcast deal in 2019, when plans to change the competition to a city-based franchise tournament could also be revived.
Four-day cricket will again largely take a break during July and August.
"The season is easier to follow," Graves added. "The blocks help players focus on specific skills, and there's a better balance across all three formats."
It's s good start, as I suggested a while back despite members rumblings of discontent when we rebranded to the Birmingham Bears we will be way ahead of the game when a city based, franchised T20 tournament is dragged in.
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It's no surprise that they want to promote T20 & stage games in July & August when potential revenue is high. T20 is a vital revenue stream for the counties who don't stage tests or ODIs.
I think it's very short sighted and is not in the best interests of the England test team. We are crying out for a quality spinner and we now deny English spinners the opportunity of bowling on the dryer pitches in July & August. It's plain daft.
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Edgbaston (http://www.edgbaston.com/2665/report-birmingham-bears-v-west-indies-match-2.html?dm_i=1AFS,434QC,9T5PXJ,ETC68,1)
Report: Birmingham Bears v West Indies Match 2
By Brian Halford
Bears lost to West Indies by three wickets in a Twenty20 thriller at the Dubai Stadium.
Hain hammered 85 from 57 balls to lift his side to a challenging 157 for five in their 20 overs.
Spinners Ateeq Javid (4-0-18-2) and Josh Poysden (4-0-25-2) then pegged back the West Indies reply and the international side went into the last four overs still needing 43.
A ferocious assault by Darren Sammy (34, 17 balls) and Ashley Nurse (25, 9 balls) got them over the line with seven balls to spare. But it was another highly creditable effort from Birmingham, captained by Laurie Evans and fielding a much-changed team from that narrowly beaten in the first game in the two-match series last Friday.
“There were some really good performances from some of our guys,” Evans said. “It was disappointing to lose but to have pushed a side as good as West Indies so close in both games reflects an awful lot of credit on our players.
“Sam Hain batted really well against a high-quality bowling attack. It was the sort of pitch where it was difficult getting in and he stayed there when we lost a few wickets and gave us something to bowl at. I think it was a total about par or even a bit over in those conditions.
“Then West Indies came out all guns blazing but Teeqy and Josh bowled brilliantly to get us back into it. For most of the bowlers it was their first bowl outside this year, so it was a really good effort but we just ran into some world-class hitting at the end.”
The Bears batted first and were given a sound platform by Hain and Jonathan Trott (28, 24 balls). Twenty-year-old Hain, who has never played a senior T20 game for the Bears, reached his half-century from 42 balls before accelerating to spectacular effect, scoring 35 from his next 15 balls. Tim Ambrose added valuable support with an unbeaten 29 (20 balls).
West Indies’ reply started with fireworks from Johnson Charles (48, 26 balls) but Javid and Poysden bowled skilfully to put a brake on the scoring. They were supported by excellent catching, Evans clutching two fine boundary catches and Ian Westwood taking a blinder at deep mid-wicket to dismiss the dangerous Dinesh Ramdin.
West Indies went into the last four overs needing more than ten an over, a tallish order, but Sammy and Nurse unveiled the sort of clean hitting which West Indies hope will take them to T20 World Cup glory later this month.
Don't forget to grab your T20 Bears 2016 Season Pass for just £77 (https://www.eticketing.co.uk/edgbaston/memberships.aspx?findmembership=0)
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That's quite the debut statement
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Sam Hain has the makings of being a bit special, I've only seen bits and pieces but he has superb technique and seems to have the mental attributes to be an England regular, and on this showing maybe even in all 3 formats, his innings there is pretty much exactly what you want from a T20 opener/3 as it gives the solidity at one end that makes things so much easier.
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stratford-herald (http://www.stratford-herald.com/48659-bell-warwickshire-ready-toughest-season-yet.html)
Bell: Warwickshire ready for toughest season yet
By Martin King - 16th March 2016
CAPTAIN Ian Bell is confident that Warwickshire are ready for the challenges of the Specsavers County Championship Division One, which he believes is the strongest and highest quality it has ever been.
As he leads the Bears into a season for the first time as club captain, Bell is under no illusion about the demands of the fixture-list which begins with a brace of away games, against Hampshire at The Ageas Bowl and Middlesex at Lord’s.
Warwickshire are heading towards the new campaign in the unaccustomed position of having everyone fit and available.
Not only is the squad injury-free but Bell, Jonathan Trott and Chris Woakes, so often away on England duty in recent years, will be in the mix for the early games.
The Bears have a squad which appears capable of challenging for honours in 2016. But Bell knows that, with Surrey and Lancashire having come up from Division Two, this year’s Specsavers County Championship Division One is brimming with powerful squads.
“Division One this year will be the toughest that it’s ever been with the two counties having come up with Test Match grounds and looking strong,” the captain said. “The squads in the First Division get stronger every year. The standard is very high.
“But we know what’s in front of us. We will have some good days and some challenging days and it’s how we react to the latter that will be really important.
“It is the first time for a long time that we will have everybody available for the start of a season. Usually we have been without a couple of myself, Trotty and Woakesy.
“But we will have Woakesy for the first few weeks so we are going to have a lot of competition in all departments of the team. For the early matches we are going to have to leave out two very good seam-bowlers.
“We have tough decisions to make but those sort of tough decisions are nice to have.
“We have got a strong squad which, injuries permitting, will allow us to rotate our seamers the way Yorkshire have done to such good effect in the last couple of years. We won’t have to flog our bowlers in the first few weeks.
“I am very excited about the season. There is a lot of cricket ahead and a lot of hard work ahead and no doubt there will be ups and downs but myself and the guys can’t wait for the challenge in front of us.”
Warwickshire entertain Gloucestershire in the first home friendly of the 2016 season at Edgbaston on 28th and 29th March. Play starts at 11am and entry is free.
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They're playing next week? It'll be freezing. Ahhh, the idyllic thwack of willow on leather whilst sipping a fine red.
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Brian Halford (Bears media correspondent I think) tweeted a few days ago hinting of a second oversees player for this years T20.
"Reports from Arbroath suggest that Warwickshire are making moves towards recruiting a second overseas player for this season's T20."
It has to be a batsman surely?
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Brian Halford (Bears media correspondent I think) tweeted a few days ago hinting of a second oversees player for this years T20.
"Reports from Arbroath suggest that Warwickshire are making moves towards recruiting a second overseas player for this season's T20."
It has to be a batsman surely?
I'd like to see Angelo Matthews come in, very fine performer for Sri Lanka and also impressed when I saw him in the T20World Cup the other day.
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The ECB have just announced that Graham Gooch has become 'Batting Consultant' with Warwickshire CCC.
Don't think its a full time role he will just have one to one sessions with Bears batsmen throughout the summer,
offering advice. He has already had some one to one sessions with some of the top order and this is set to continue.
www.ecb.co.uk/news/articles/gooch-help-bears-batsmen
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The ECB have just announced that Graham Gooch has become 'Batting Consultant' with Warwickshire CCC.
Don't think its a full time role he will just have one to one sessions with Bears batsmen throughout the summer,
offering advice. He has already had some one to one sessions with some of the top order and this is set to continue.
www.ecb.co.uk/news/articles/gooch-help-bears-batsmen
Reading between the lines I'd say that his appointment is more about Sam Hain's development into an England player than working with our top order.
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Interesting article about how a County Championship pitch is prepared at Edgbaston and New Road.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/35969694
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The Bears have signed Kiwi wicketkeeper/batsman Luke Ronchi for this years T20.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/newzealand/content/player/7502.html
I don't think his stats are all that, especially after McCullum last year so it will be interesting to see how it goes.
I would have preferred to see a more established player signed, one of the West Indies T20 squad perhaps. Other counties are signing high profile players, why aren't we?
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It's rare that we do. McCullum was an excellent exception. Hopefully this guy will prove his worth but I'd have liked a bigger name too.
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I think it's good that Ronchi has signed for all 14 games where as McCullum only signed for 7 last year. I can see Sam Hain featuring this summer and having Ian Bell available is a big plus.
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I think we could could/should be close to be winning quite a lot this season.
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I think we could could/should be close to be winning quite a lot this season.
Yeah, should be there or thereabouts in all comps
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I think we could could/should be close to be winning quite a lot this season.
Yeah, should be there or thereabouts in all comps
I disagree, but hope to be proved wrong.
I think we peaked when when we won the championship and have coasted since.
In particular, our much vaunted seam attack is less than the sum of its parts. Barker is the only one that can swing the ball in favourable conditions. Woakes used to, before he speeded up. Wright and Jones are decent bowlers, but I would bet good money that they will spend most of the season injured.
Rikki Clarke, last season's player of the year for both fans and players sums us up. Fantastic potential never achieved and playing for their retirement fund.
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Three early wickets for Barker, good start to the season for the Bears.
Hants 50-4.
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50 for 4 now Boyd has got Vince caught by Sam Hain
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I had my reservations about this season but the today's line up is hugely formidable in The County Championship:
Chopra
Westwood
Bell
Trott
Hain
Ambrose
Clarke
Woakes
Barker
Patel
Rankin
Wickets and runs galore there.
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59 for 6! Looks like a good toss that we won.
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59/5 .........Barker now has a "Fourfer" and Ervine has gone LBW
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Barker 5 for 20!
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59 for 6! Looks like a good toss that we won.
I don't think we won the tossed we just invoked this new rule where the visiting team can decide what they want to do
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Oh, I didn't know about that. Thanks Spangley.
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87/7 ......Rikki Clarke has got Wheater
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Let them off the hook at the end but a decent start to the season.
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At 87/7 i was all excited then i remembered this is the Bears and there always seems to be one guy we can't shift
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No play yet today, there's an inspection at 3pm.
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No play at Hamps today, boooo
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James Taylor forced to retire (http://www.ecb.co.uk/news/articles/taylor-forced-retire)
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James Taylor forced to retire (http://www.ecb.co.uk/news/articles/taylor-forced-retire)
I saw the headline and thought, right that must be some lesser James Taylor. But no. Devastating.
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That really is shocking news. I know that in the grand scheme of things it's not very important but to see a professional sportsman being forced to retire because of a health condition whilst we have a bunch of wasters wearing the Villa shirt this season, something ain't right.
Ironically I thought he was a player who played with a lot of courage and heart. Hope that they sort it out for him and that whatever path he takes, he's successful.
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Nice ton for Bell to start the season. Won't be long before we lose him to England if he keeps this up!
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Well done Ian Bell! 104 not out......great 1st knock of the season. The guy is class. A chance of a win tomorrow if we can skittle them out early. Weather has intervened - lost a whole day yesterday. C'mon you Bears!!
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360 all out so a lead of 158. Bell scored 174.
It should be a difficult afternoon for Hampshire.
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With Taylor's awful diagnosis do you think that Ian Bell might be back in the Test reckoning for the summer?
I hope not because at 34 it's short termism for England and anyway I want him leading Da Bears to 4 day glory this season.
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With Taylor's awful diagnosis do you think that Ian Bell might be back in the Test reckoning for the summer?
I hope not because at 34 it's short termism for England and anyway I want him leading Da Bears to 4 day glory this season.
I just posted something similar on the International Cricket thread. I like Bell and he will score heavily against county attacks. They should take a longer term view and select Ballance ahead of Bell though.
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With Taylor's awful diagnosis do you think that Ian Bell might be back in the Test reckoning for the summer?
I hope not because at 34 it's short termism for England and anyway I want him leading Da Bears to 4 day glory this season.
I just posted something similar on the International Cricket thread. I like Bell and he will score heavily against county attacks. They should take a longer term view and select Ballance ahead of Bell though.
I',m not convinced by Ballance just yet (I want to hear him admit that he has a technical problem and that he's addressing it, his refusal to do that was worrying) but I agree that they should move on from Bell, I don't know who the right person is though.
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With Taylor's awful diagnosis do you think that Ian Bell might be back in the Test reckoning for the summer?
I hope not because at 34 it's short termism for England and anyway I want him leading Da Bears to 4 day glory this season.
I just posted something similar on the International Cricket thread. I like Bell and he will score heavily against county attacks. They should take a longer term view and select Ballance ahead of Bell though.
I',m not convinced by Ballance just yet (I want to hear him admit that he has a technical problem and that he's addressing it, his refusal to do that was worrying) but I agree that they should move on from Bell, I don't know who the right person is though.
I agree on Ballance, but as I said on the other cricket thread I think he'll be next in line, I think he needs to show more willingness to develop his game.
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Looks like a draw
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The loss of 4 sessions was no good to us - a nailed on win beaten by the British climate!
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The loss of 4 sessions was no good to us - a nailed on win beaten by the British climate!
It's called April unfortunately.
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The loss of 4 sessions was no good to us - a nailed on win beaten by the British climate!
It's called April unfortunately.
So we can get the Rounders in when British Summertime might happen.
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www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/36054053
New contracts signed for 3 x Bears
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Lyth and Bairstow both started the season with centuries.
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Listening to Bairstow and Plunkett take Hampshire apart, Yorkshire have scored 176 runs in 90 minutes.
Bairstow 173 not out and Plunkett has 70 from 44 balls, steady on it's not hit and run. 100 partnership in 65 balls, 449-6.
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I think Yorkshire should merit their own "Luke Haines" thread :)
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I see Westwood has started the season like he ended the last one ,scores of 2and 0 .Is he the brother of Ashley by any chance ?
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Massive double century from Trott as the Bears game heads towards a final day draw.
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Massive double century from Trott as the Bears game heads towards a final day draw.
Not so sure, a few wickets before close tonight would heap massive pressure on them.
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31-2 currently
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75/2 off 26 overs now.
Compton usually does well against us. He has caught up with Robson and they are both on 34.
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That was a hell of a recovery from 173-6 to 468 all out. Great innings from Trott who was well supported by Barker, Patel and Hannon-Dalby.
It was Trott's first century since 2014 and a big one at that.
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Today saw two very rare occurrences:
All eleven Warwickshire players bowled and the wicket keeper got a wicket.
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Today saw two very rare occurrences:
All eleven Warwickshire players bowled and the wicket keeper got a wicket.
Not a good advert for county championship cricket, to be honest.
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Thought early season pitches were meant to be bowler friendly result wickets.
If 20 wickets had fallen in a day there would be trouble and fines, why not the same for producing a pitch so unlikely to produce a result?
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It's always been the way. Cricket doesn't care about the fans. Witness the number of times umpires take teams off even when the bowling team is more than happy to play spinners so it's not dangerous in any way, or the ludicrous scheduling of county games to avoid taking advantage of weekends.
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We just got Lyth. Yorks 50 for 2. Freezing.
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113-4
A wkt for each of the bowlers,Barker,Woakes, Clarke & Rankin....Bairstow gone 20
Ballance 25*
Leaning 13*
That cold i've gone home...listen to it plus watch sport all afternoon.
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2 Wickets gone after lunch, no play before lunch due to drizzle
209-6 69 overs
Leaning Ct Ambrose b Woakes 51
Ballance Ct Ambrose b Barker 68
Rashid 12*
Plunkett 0*
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Gone off again....light
227/6 70.5 overs
Rashid 16
Plunkett 14
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Rain not light PGW.
Plunkett hit his 14 runs from 4 consecutive balls from Barker.
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277/7 83 overs
Plunkett Ct Ambrose b Clarke 26
Rashid 39*
Patterson 13*
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Tea 308/7 90 overs
Rashid 52*
Patterson 30*
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Game moved on and with 12 overs left in the day i think final stoppage just taken place with:
Yorkshire 368-9 104.3 overs
Patterson 62*
Sidebottom 6*
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If we could reduce it to one innings per side could still be a good game. Neither side will agree though as it would mean forfeiting the bonus points from our batting/their bowling. One of my bug bears is that captains can't agree to forfeit their second innings during the game. Make it a one innings game, keep your bonus points, far better chance of a result. Much better for the supporters.
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Westwood fails yet again,out for 4 18 for 1
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I'd have thought Porterfield must be in with a shout of getting the next match instead of Westwood, I had a look at the batting averages for Division 1 this morning and I know it is very early in the season but it did amuse me to see our opening batsman 99th out of 99.
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Yes there must be a case for Porterfield to come in for Westwood
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Bears moved onto 124/1 from 39 overs
Chopra 69*
Bell 49*
Listening from home now....to damn cold
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Bell 53*
Chopra 81*
142/1 41.5 overs
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150/2 45.4
Bell Ct Lyth b Rashid 59
Chopra 85*
Trott in
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Warks 203/2 at tea
Chopra 99
Trott 38
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Chopra has his century shortly after tea.
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First ball after tea Chopra gets his 100. His first against Yorkshire
204-2
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Off again....
205/2 61.1
Chopra 101*
Trott 38*
174 behind
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A freezing blizzard put an end to the day's play. At this rate, we will have batted only 3 innings in the first three championship games.
Big blow to Yorks having Sidebottom retiring injured during his 6th over.
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Couldn't be arsed to go down this morning but at Lunch
Bears 312-6 94 overs
Ambrose 25*
Clarke 4*
4 wkts gone this morning
Chopra Ct Lyth b Patterson 107
Hain St Bairstow b Lyth 15
Trott Ct Lees b Lyth 74
Woakes Ct Lees b Rashid 15
Are Bears gonna make do with 4 batting bonus points require 88 off 16 to get maximum, could be difficult with 6 down
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Rikki Clarke out for 51 from 46 balls.
387 for 7.
We have to get 400 and not lose another 3 wickets according to the strategists in the member's lounge.
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I'm going to stick my neck out here and predict this match will end in a draw.
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We have declared on 453 for 9.
Tea is being taken.
Currently pleasant sunshine but when the sun disappears behind a cloud it is freezing. Snow flurries in the morning session.
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Another draw predictably in these wintry conditions. One observation, Westwood should be dropped after a poor start to the season. Bring in Laurie Evans or Ateeq Javid. Westwood is a weakness as an opening bat.
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It must be a Westwood thing.
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Another draw predictably in these wintry conditions. One observation, Westwood should be dropped after a poor start to the season. Bring in Laurie Evans or Ateeq Javid. Westwood is a weakness as an opening bat.
Porterfield is another option. Westy has lost his mojo for sho.
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Another win for Essex. Great start to the season, hopefully they can get promoted this season.
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Good, balanced report by George Dobell. He's one of my favourite writers and his coverage of the domestic game is excellent:
http://www.espncricinfo.com/county-cricket-2016/content/story/1004383.html
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Another draw predictably in these wintry conditions. One observation, Westwood should be dropped after a poor start to the season. Bring in Laurie Evans or Ateeq Javid. Westwood is a weakness as an opening bat.
Porterfield is another option. Westy has lost his mojo for sho.
Unfortunately he never had his mojo, he averages 32 in First Class cricket, pathetic for an opening bat. One that needs replacing if we want to have a shot at winning the Championship again.
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I'd love to see Laurie Evans get a go in the Championship. Can't believe someone with his talent couldn't adapt to the longer game if given a good run.
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I'd love to see Laurie Evans get a go in the Championship. Can't believe someone with his talent couldn't adapt to the longer game if given a good run.
Another one I'm not convinced on myself. However think he will get his chance in the middle order soon, especially as the kid Hain is struggling for any kind of early season form.
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Second season syndrome is going on a bit longer for Hain than one would hope.
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I am another one not totally convinced about Laurie Evans .Not much to choose between him and Ateeq Javid .Both have had chances and never really taken them .
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Yorkshire bowlers are bowling some rubbish at Trent Bridge. Missing Sidebottom who keeps things toght as well as a wicket taker.
Notts 76/0 from 15 overs.
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I stopped watching at 76/0, now 238/8. I'm obviously a jinx so won't watch anymore.
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The wife's not been well these last few months and, in our 44th year of marriage, she suddenly developed an interest in cricket. We watched the world T20 together which she loved and is now addicted to the IPL, which I cordially dislike (still struggle to work out what Super/Royal gold-blinged team is which).
Today I insisted on watching the County game, which was like a breath of really fresh, calm, air. I tried to explain the differences and the added subtlety (and the four-dayness) but to no avail.
This remains a work in progress...
:)
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Stick at it Nick! My partner developed an interest in cricket when she was pregnant with our first child, she couldn't sleep one night and ended up watching a documentary on Brian Lara at some ridiculous hour and then asked me to take her to a cricket match, sadly she's strictly one day though.
Hope your good lady is on the mend.
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The cream teas served in the members areas at most grounds are a good ruse in this respect, I have found.
Worcestershire CCC make no bones about it, either:
Rest assured tea and cakes are still served in the Ladies pavilion in the same way as the view of the Cathedral will always be associated with New Road.
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Stick at it Nick! My partner developed an interest in cricket when she was pregnant with our first child, she couldn't sleep one night and ended up watching a documentary on Brian Lara at some ridiculous hour and then asked me to take her to a cricket match, sadly she's strictly one day though.
Hope your good lady is on the mend.
I've offered her the incentive of taking her to the Neville Ground to watch Kent get ther annual thrashing/trial-by-water in Tunbridge Wells' cricket/deluge week if she doesn't get better soon.
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Typical. I persuade her to watch the county game again because she likes Joe Root (though becoming increasingly fed up with that wretched dachshund), and he's gone first ball to Ball, bowling well.
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Typical. I persuade her to watch the county game again because she likes Joe Root (though becoming increasingly fed up with that wretched dachshund), and he's gone first ball to Ball, bowling well.
Please tell her not to watch him in the second innings.
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Typical. I persuade her to watch the county game again because she likes Joe Root (though becoming increasingly fed up with that wretched dachshund), and he's gone first ball to Ball, bowling well.
Please tell her not to watch him in the second innings.
Whats your forecast for the last day/result Chris ?? Do you think the Yorkies can win ??
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Typical. I persuade her to watch the county game again because she likes Joe Root (though becoming increasingly fed up with that wretched dachshund), and he's gone first ball to Ball, bowling well.
Please tell her not to watch him in the second innings.
Whats your forecast for the last day/result Chris ?? Do you think the Yorkies can win ??
Ever the optimist, think it will be a draw, unless we can shift Read and Patel early!
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Read, Patel and Broad have rescued Notts. A draw looks the likely result now. Notts are 327-8, which is a lead of 298.
I assume that the sunshine has saved Notts. I watch some of the Sky coverage yesterday afternoon. The ball was looping around and a few kept very low. Today the sun is out and batting is easier.
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100.3
Patterson to Read, OUT
CMW Read c Rashid b Patterson 101 (218m 179b 14x4 3x6) SR: 56.42
Nottinghamshire 261 & 348 (100.3 ov)
Yorkshire 290
Nottinghamshire lead by 319 runs with 0 wickets remaining
Min overs remaining 53
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0.6
Ball to Lyth, OUT
A Lyth c †Read b Ball 4 (4m 6b 1x4 0x6) SR: 66.66
End of over 3 (1 run) Yorkshire 5/1 (315 runs required)
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Yorkshire have gone for it, they're go to fall short but it's frustrating that Broad was able to bowl so wide of off stump to Bairstow otherwise we'd be a lot closer.
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5 overs, 3 wickets, Tykes trembling.
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3 and 2!
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Notts look like winning this but fair play to Gale for going for it. Still annoyed Broad was allowed to bowl so wide though!
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Whatever happens it's been a great advert for County cricket, especially when the top players are involved.
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Come on you Tykes hold on for the draw ,thats the best result for the Bears
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Good stuff.
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Whatever happens it's been a great advert for County cricket, especially when the top players are involved.
What isn't a great advert for the county game is 7 draws out of 8 games in this round. That makes it difficult to support matches being played at this time of year. I don't know how much time was lost to rain/clouds but it's far from ideal.
EDIT
Just checked, 6 results from the 27 matches played so far across the 2 divisions, that's really not great.
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And you'd do what about the rain and snow?
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All came down to the last ball, been pacing the kitchen listening to the final few overs, superb advert for the long form game.
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And you'd do what about the rain and snow?
Nothing but that is exactly where the problem is with playing in April and Early May and it doesn't really help the county game. It's often too cold to sit and watch the entire thing, you get lots of gaps in play and you get too many draws which all combines to keep attendances down. It's a shame that a big part of the best form of the game is relegated to these shitty parts of the season (I'm including the september matches as well but they're less of a problem) to accommodate T20 and limited over cricket. Warwickshire, for example, had their first match start on the 10th of April and they'll finish with a match starting 20th of September. But they'll go 4 weeks without a 4day game in late may-late June and then 3 weeks again late July-mid august. I'd like to see something done to put more 4 day games into those nicer parts of the summer so that we see less draws caused by the weather.
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I wish they'd play the T20 early in the season, get it out of the way whilst the weather is dodgy.
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Never going to happen. It's a cash cow. I still think you could improve the game dramatically by having the option to reduce the game to an innings each if more than a day's play is lost.
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Never going to happen. It's a cash cow. I still think you could improve the game dramatically by having the option to reduce the game to an innings each if more than a day's play is lost.
I could go with that, I just think something needs to happen because I find the early part of the season to be a big waste of time where not much happens and the sensible teams are playing to get batting bonus points as their priority pace yourself for 3.5 an over, keep wickets in hand and after 100 overs throw your hands at it and try to get the 5. By doing that you make the likely result a draw (once you account for the lost time) and you'd expect 2-3 bowling points so you're just ticking over at 11-12 points a game and giving yourself a chance later on. Warwickshire have played it perfectly this year so far but it's not particularly satisfying.
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Never going to happen. It's a cash cow. I still think you could improve the game dramatically by having the option to reduce the game to an innings each if more than a day's play is lost.
The big problem with that is that if any play has already happened the side batting second would be hugely favoured. However, if the side batting first batted in relatively good weather and then there were two days of inclement weather, the side batting second would behind the 8-Ball. For that reason I wouldn't go for it.
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I've never understood why the county game is 4 days rather than 5.
They got rid of the very entertaining 40 over one day game because "it doesn't match international cricket" yet they stick with 4 days rather than 5 in the county championship.
Nearly every county game loses some time in the UK because of weather. If there was a 5th day like "International standards" we'd get a lot more results.
It doesn't seem like that long ago they were still playing 3 days let alone 4.
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I've never understood why the county game is 4 days rather than 5.
They got rid of the very entertaining 40 over one day game because "it doesn't match international cricket" yet they stick with 4 days rather than 5 in the county championship.
Nearly every county game loses some time in the UK because of weather. If there was a 5th day like "International standards" we'd get a lot more results.
It doesn't seem like that long ago they were still playing 3 days let alone 4.
The thing is most tests finish inside 4 days now anyway.
As others have said it's the re-arrangement of the fixtures to play the T20 on the warmer evenings to maximise revenue that's the cause. The non-test venue counties rely on the money that the T20 brings in and in some cases it keeps them in business.
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The IPL game today - the ground is covered (and I mean covered) in large insects. Ugh!
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The IPL game today - the ground is covered (and I mean covered) in large insects. Ugh!
Crickets?
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I've never understood why the county game is 4 days rather than 5.
They got rid of the very entertaining 40 over one day game because "it doesn't match international cricket" yet they stick with 4 days rather than 5 in the county championship.
Nearly every county game loses some time in the UK because of weather. If there was a 5th day like "International standards" we'd get a lot more results.
It doesn't seem like that long ago they were still playing 3 days let alone 4.
The thing is most tests finish inside 4 days now anyway.
As others have said it's the re-arrangement of the fixtures to play the T20 on the warmer evenings to maximise revenue that's the cause. The non-test venue counties rely on the money that the T20 brings in and in some cases it keeps them in business.
That would have been true seasons past, but now with the clear structure of splitting the season into parts, I don't understand how that can still be the blocking factor.
Especially in the early part of the season with the weather being so bad. Surely 5 day games until the T20 starts (keeping the 50 over games to weekends) would be beneficial to all concerned, maybe drop down to 4 days when the T20 finishes if they have to.
They should have a reserve day for 50 over games too, I remember a few seasons back, we (bears) were due to play Scotland or Holland in a 50 over group game which was a guaranteed win but not a ball was bowled and the game was called off (awarding 2 points each), the next day was glorious weather and we didn't have a game for another few days. On the back of that we failed to qualify for the knock out stages, if memory serves correct we missed out on net run rate, but those extra 2 points would have meant we made it regardless of run rate.
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I've never understood why the county game is 4 days rather than 5.
They got rid of the very entertaining 40 over one day game because "it doesn't match international cricket" yet they stick with 4 days rather than 5 in the county championship.
Nearly every county game loses some time in the UK because of weather. If there was a 5th day like "International standards" we'd get a lot more results.
It doesn't seem like that long ago they were still playing 3 days let alone 4.
The thing is most tests finish inside 4 days now anyway.
As others have said it's the re-arrangement of the fixtures to play the T20 on the warmer evenings to maximise revenue that's the cause. The non-test venue counties rely on the money that the T20 brings in and in some cases it keeps them in business.
That would have been true seasons past, but now with the clear structure of splitting the season into parts, I don't understand how that can still be the blocking factor.
Especially in the early part of the season with the weather being so bad. Surely 5 day games until the T20 starts (keeping the 50 over games to weekends) would be beneficial to all concerned, maybe drop down to 4 days when the T20 finishes if they have to.
They should have a reserve day for 50 over games too, I remember a few seasons back, we (bears) were due to play Scotland or Holland in a 50 over group game which was a guaranteed win but not a ball was bowled and the game was called off (awarding 2 points each), the next day was glorious weather and we didn't have a game for another few days. On the back of that we failed to qualify for the knock out stages, if memory serves correct we missed out on net run rate, but those extra 2 points would have meant we made it regardless of run rate.
I don't think 5 day Championship cricket is the way forward. It will have the net effect of increasing overheads for the cash-strapped non-test counties. Northants came very close to going under a few months ago and were saved by the local council. It won't be long before a county goes under. You would also have to question how many games would last 5 days. To me, four day championship cricket has worked and as a result there are some strong sides in the top half of the first division.
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Never going to happen. It's a cash cow. I still think you could improve the game dramatically by having the option to reduce the game to an innings each if more than a day's play is lost.
The big problem with that is that if any play has already happened the side batting second would be hugely favoured. However, if the side batting first batted in relatively good weather and then there were two days of inclement weather, the side batting second would behind the 8-Ball. For that reason I wouldn't go for it.
So you mean sometimes conditions would favour the side batting first, and sometimes they'd favour the side batting second? That sounds like every cricket match, ever.
I'd only bring it in if both captains agreed. Even if it did disadvantage one side, under the CC points system you'd be better off winning one and losing one than drawing two games anyway. Plus it would be better for the fans.
Not that they care about fans anyway, as the ludicrous decision to play all the matches from Sunday-Wednesday or from Monday-Thursday proves.
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Somerset 118/4 against Warwickshire, Barker with 3 more wickets. He has got to be pushing for a test place soon surely.
Anyway, Westwood retains his place but he must be drinking in the last chance saloon.
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Decent enough day for the Bears to get Somerset out for less than 300 with their batting strength As for Westwood,yet again he has failed ,out for 3 .Just how bad does this guy have to be to be dropped ?
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Decent enough day for the Bears to get Somerset out for less than 300 with their batting strength As for Westwood,yet again he has failed ,out for 3 .Just how bad does this guy have to be to be dropped ?
His three runs beat his season average by 50% and you are still calling for him to be dropped??
I don't know what else he can do ;)
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I think we could replace him with Ashley Westwood and we would'nt notice the difference
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Westwood needs to be dropped. Ateeq Javid or Laurie Evans need to play. What are the selectors thinking of?? Same mentality as Eric Black!!
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Westwood needs to be dropped. Ateeq Javid or Laurie Evans need to play. What are the selectors thinking of?? Same mentality as Eric Black!!
Who would you open with? I'd sooner see Porterfield given another go.
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I would probably go for Ateeq Javid as his bowling could be useful .
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Bears struggling 135/9 still require 11 to avoid follow on.
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Follow on avoided 148/9
Woakes 20*
Patel 8*
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152 all out....not good
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Yorkshire were 45/3 but Bairstow and Root have moved score on to 256/3 with Bairstow and Root scoring at a silly 7 an over. Come on lads, that's not proper cricket.
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Somerset now 23/3 Trescothick (14) Abell (2) & Hildreth (0) back in pavilion Barker 1 & Woakes 2 the wicket takers
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Any chance we could end up having points deducted here?
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Allenby gone now Ct Clarke b Rankin 53/4
Lead 196
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Tea 69/4
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88/5
Rogers Ct Hain b Rankin 16
Lewis Gregory ducked into a Rankin short one and got hit on helmet first ball.
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104/6 Gregory LBW Rankin 9
Lead 247
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126/7 269 lead
Davies ct Rankin b Barker 12
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http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/36245090
Where do Midlands teams fit into this?
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151/8 trego Ct Hain b Patel 51
Lead 294
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C Overton b Woakes 19
164/9
Could have a nasty couple of overs to face tonight
Lead 307
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178 all out
Leach Ct Ambrose b Clarke 5
Overton 18*
Bears need 322 to win with 2 overs to face tonight.
So with Westwoods form likely out tonight!!!!
Bell a hamstring injury so not sure when/if he will bat. I'm sure knowing Bell he surely will try.
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4/0 at close
Westwood 4*
318 to win
Rain tomorrow
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4/0 at close
Westwood 4*
318 to win
Rain tomorrow
Dry on Wednesday? Sensible batting and we have a chance.
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A great day's entertainment, but Zomerzet are firmly in the driving seat. The depth of their seam attack was impressive.
Young Tom Abell who scored a ton on Sunday reportedly said that he never felt he was "in" at any time, and you could see what he meant from several balls today. Barker was struck an horrendous blow from a ball by from one of the Overtons which reared up from a decent lenghth. He spent a good few minutes prodding the pitch in incredulity and was out pdq thereafter.
Clarke caused severe bruising to Rogers' upper torso and Rankin dealt Gregory a sickening blow to the side of the helmet which had most of us holding our breath in anticipation of the worst. Thankfully, he was OK.
Not looking good for Bell. You could see he was struggling and the word is that the hammy is banjaxed. He was due to have a scan overnight.
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Pissing down in Brum. Just as well can't see us getting close to 300 the way wickets have been falling.
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Likely to be played 4 drawn 4. We can't moan that the County Championship doesn't get the crowds in.
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Rooooooooooot has brought his double century up.
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espncricinfo (http://www.espncricinfo.com/county-cricket-2016/content/story/1011097.html)
So much for flat pitches: Edgbaston turns nasty as 18 wickets fall
Warwickshire 152 (Chopra 56) and 4 for 0 require another 318 runs to beat Somerset 295 and 178 (Trego 51)
Jon Culley at Edgbaston
So much for flat pitches. Just when it seemed batsmen might be able to look forward to some good old-fashioned shirt fronts, thanks to the decision to allow visiting teams to bowl first if they fancy it, the one cut for this match has been a proper package of unpredictability, and painfully so at times.
There were 18 wickets on the second day and at least six instances of players being hit on various parts of the body. Tom Abell, Peter Trego and, earlier, Keith Barker, were all left with throbbing fingers, Chris Rogers took blows to the ribs and midriff and Lewis Gregory had to have treatment as a ball from an apologetic Boyd Rankin reared up and struck him on the helmet.
It was a wonder Ian Bell's hamstring, which has almost certainly ruled out any possible Test recall against Sri Lanka next week, was not superseded as the injury story of the day.
If Somerset were left a little battered and bruised, Warwickshire look like being on the wrong end of the result. Bowled out for 152 in reply to 295, their tall pace quartet in turn shot Somerset out for 178 but a target of 322 to achieve a first win of the season looks a tall order, unless the pitch flattens out appreciably.
Trego's 51, which supplemented his 94 on day one, was by some margin the best Somerset score and its merits were applauded with gusto on the visitors' balcony. It was a characteristically aggressive innings from the combative all-rounder, and though he described the pitch as "scary" he confessed to enjoying the challenge hugely.
"There are some quite decent sized cracks so there is a little bit of uneven bounce and sideways movement and when someone is bowling a very hard projectile at you at 85mph and you don't really know how it is going to behave off the pitch, that's a pretty scary proposition," he said.
"When a few of the guys get hit on the gloves and hit in the body, that sets the batsmen on the back foot and creates a little bit of doubt and mistakes creep in.
"But to be honest I quite like playing on wickets like that. It gets the juices flowing and you know there is going to be a potential result. Wearing a couple is part of the gig. A couple of guys who ducked into some relatively full deliveries that were not played particularly well but some balls bounced alarmingly and that's fantastic for me.
"Abes (Tom Abell) played magnificently well on day one with support from myself but we played and missed at a lot of balls and it was one of those wickets where you could easily be rolled for 150 and that played out in Warwickshire's innings."
In fairness, it could be argued that the behaviour of the pitch was a factor in no more than a handful of dismissals. Rogers, never comfortable, fended a short ball to short leg and the one that had Jim Allenby caught at second slip climbed on him but the full, straight ball was as effective a weapon as any. It was too good for James Hildreth, for example, who had his middle stump uprooted first ball by Chris Woakes.
There were a few batsmen, too, who were architects of their own demise.
Bell, who had missed the whole of the last session and a little more after feeling his left hamstring in the field on day one, came in unaccompanied at five down but never looked comfortable and the immediate thought was that it would not be long before he asked for a runner. In the event, he did not need one. After despatching a glorious cover drive for four off Trego, he attempted to dab the next delivery to third man but was never in control of the shot and instead gave Allenby a low catch at first slip.
The diagnosis on the ground was that Bell had a grade one tear. He was due to have a scan after close of play but even if the damage is revealed as no worse, he can expect to miss next week's match against Nottinghamshire at the very least. A recall to Test match duty seems therefore to be ruled out, at least in the short term.
Bell was the fourth man out in the morning session as Warwickshire stumbled from 27-2 overnight to 107-6 at lunch. Jonathan Trott had pulled Gregory loosely to midwicket, Sam Hain was undone attempting to play across one from the same bowler and Tim Ambrose thin-edged a cut, Ryan Davies, the England Under-19 wicketkeeper recruited from Essex, taking a good diving catch.
Varun Chopra played soundly for his 56 but only Chris Woakes was able to stick with him for more than a few overs.
Somerset's batsmen looked hardly more secure. Abell, after his first-day hundred, was gone for just two this time and after the departures of Marcus Trescothick and then Hildreth left them 23-3, there seemed to be a nervousness about the batting that suggested the pitch was playing on a few minds.
Trego countered this with aggression and for him it paid off. After Allenby was dismissed at 53-4, Somerset's progress to 151-8 would not have happened without it. Trego struck sxi fours before top-edging a pull as Jeetan Patel claimed the 28th wicket of the match, and the 16th of the day, and the first to fall to spin.
Useful runs from the Overton twins swelled Somerset's lead and Warwickshire were left to negotiate two overs before the close. But for the forecast of rain, a three-day finish would be guaranteed.
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Likely to be played 4 drawn 4. We can't moan that the County Championship doesn't get the crowds in.
All in all an excellent crowd at Edgbaston on Sunday undoubtedly some of which brought out by the weather which as we all know
was gorgeous. One thing i realised on Sunday which i found mystifying was not the fact that i had my first pint of Stowford Press
of the season but my mate wanted a pint of Guinness only to be told that the club doesn't sell Guinness anymore!!!!
Obviously no deal offered by Guinness i assume.
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Warwickshire County Cricket Club
13 mins ·
Sadly play has been abandoned for the day in our Specsavers County Championship match with Somerset.
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Likely to be played 4 drawn 4. We can't moan that the County Championship doesn't get the crowds in.
All in all an excellent crowd at Edgbaston on Sunday undoubtedly some of which brought out by the weather which as we all know
was gorgeous. One thing i realised on Sunday which i found mystifying was not the fact that i had my first pint of Stowford Press
of the season but my mate wanted a pint of Guinness only to be told that the club doesn't sell Guinness anymore!!!!
Obviously no deal offered by Guinness i assume.
It used to amuse me that there are Marstons Pedigree signs all over the ground but you could not get in the Tom Dollery lounge. Pedigree and New World available at both ends now. Hurrah.
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Warwickshire County Cricket Club
13 mins ·
Sadly play has been abandoned for the day in our Specsavers County Championship match with Somerset.
I work in Edgbaston and it hasn't rained here since early this morning. Outfield must have been soaked.
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4 games, 4th draw looks more than likely - all due to weather. I rest my case.
Was planning on going today as I have a day off work, cheer the bears to a victory its so very annoying.
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Match drawn.
Points:
Warwickshire 8
Somerset 10
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4 games, 4th draw looks more than likely - all due to weather. I rest my case.
Was planning on going today as I have a day off work, cheer the bears to a victory its so very annoying.
Its particularly annoying to see a game abandoned as a draw after we had 4-5 days of fantastic weather where people would, in my opinion, have happily gone and watched some cricket. I know you can't just move the start date to suit the weather but it doesn't stop it being immensely frustrating.
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Match drawn.
Points:
Warwickshire 8
Somerset 10
It is particularly annoying as both Yorkshire and Lancashire win by an innings
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Grauniad (https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/may/11/warwickshire-somerset-dangerous-pitch-match-report)
Warwickshire face possible action over pitch deemed dangerous by Somerset
• Batsmen struck six times by bowlers on unpredictable Edgbaston pitch
Warwickshire are facing possible disciplinary action over the pitch prepared for their County Championship fixture with Somerset at Edgbaston, which was described as being “a bit dangerous” by the visiting captain, Chris Rogers, after the washed-out draw.
The surface, on which 30 wickets fell in the first two days before rain prevented any further play, is understood to have been deemed “poor” by the umpires Ian Gould and Neil Mallender, with the England and Wales Cricket Board to consider their report.
Unpredictable bounce became a feature of the cracked surface on the second day, with 18 wickets falling and batsmen struck six times by fast bowlers. The Somerset tailender Lewis Gregory was forced to change helmet after being hit when ducking into a delivery from Boyd Rankin, while Rogers twice took blows to the body.
“There were a few concerns,” Rogers said after the match was abandoned, with Warwickshire unmoved from their position of four for no loss at stumps on the second day, chasing 322 in the fourth innings.
“I think the cracks were making it a little bit dangerous and that is a bit of a worry. Any time you see the ball take off it’s a surprise. I have played on some excellent wickets here and it was different. I don’t think the groundsman quite got it the way he wanted to but he’ll know better next time and fortunately there were no real incidents.”
Tony Pigott, the ECB’s cricket liaison officer, was at the match and is understood to have spoken to members of both clubs as well as Gary Barwell, the Edgbaston head groundsman.
Warwickshire could face a possible points deduction if the matter is passed to the Cricket Discipline Commission, with an ECB spokesperson saying: “We will be considering the umpires’ report overnight before making any further comment.”
Dougie Brown said: “It was not the type of pitch we wanted. There was cracks but was it dangerous? No. We all know here that Gary Barwell is the best groundsman in the country by a mile. He was preparing this pitch 14-16 days ahead, as always, and when he started it was in snow and ice.
The Warwickshire director of cricket added: “Then the weather flipped on its head and suddenly it was very hot, so the drying process was accelerated by the weather. When the cricket liaison officer said the pitch had been reported we were incredibly surprised.
The reporting of the Edgbaston pitch is the first such incident since the ECB changed the procedure for the toss in the County Championship as part of a season-long trial, with away sides given the option of bowling first to encourage better surfaces.
Last season Glamorgan were fined £9,000 and docked two points for an “unfit” pitch that led to their Royal London Cup fixture with Hampshire being abandoned. Warwickshire were docked eight points in 2011 for a “poor” pitch in a 218-run win against Worcestershire in the championship.
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Great.
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warwickshireccc.com (http://warwickshireccc.com/news/preview-nottinghamshire-v-warwickshire-specsavers-county-championship/)
Director of cricket Dougie Brown wants Warwickshire to translate the "good signs" of their first four games into a first Specsavers County Championship victory of the season against Nottinghamshire, starting tomorrow.
The Bears will visit Trent Bridge with their campaign still to escape the shackles of bad weather. After four rain-affected draws they sit fourth in Division One,13 points behind leaders Yorkshire and 12 behind second-placed Lancashire who have a game in hand.
The staccato nature of the season so far continued last week when the last two days of the home game against Somerset were washed out. So the Bears can't wait to get in some sustained time on the field, hopefully in Nottingham, as the season prepares to get busy with other formats too with the NatWestT20Blast campaign starting next week.
"There have been some really good signs for us so far," said Brown. "In some areas we need to improve and we have spoken about them, but in general I am happy with the way we have played. Everybody has made a contribution. Some people haven't had the rewards in terms of stats but that will come.
"We have been playing some solid cricket. Rain has been a huge factor in a number of the draws and it is bad fortune when you get as much rain as we have had because against good teams you need four days to get a conclusion. So far, Lancashire have managed to slip the rain but we, and a number of other teams, have not.
"All we can do is stick to what we are doing. We are about to head into silly season where we play 50-overs, Twenty20 and championship cricket so it will be interesting to see how teams manage in terms of squad-depth across all three formats because that's when it really starts to test teams.
"Part and parcel of being a decent team is you have to carry a strong squad, which we certainly do."
Warwickshire will be forced into a change at Trent Bridge if Ian Bell does not recover from a hamstring tweak. He has a chance of being fit but, if he doesn't make it, Laurie Evans will come into the top order and Chris Woakes will take over the captaincy against a Nottinghamshire side which has the look of potential title-challengers
"Nottinghamshire are a very good outfit," said Brown. "They have played some interesting cricket in the first few games of the season and probably been in as many winning positions as anybody. They are a very dangerous team.
"We lost up there last year but our recent record against them is actually very good and at Trent Bridge it is excellent. But I'm not a massive one for worrying about what the opposition do. It's more about focusing on what we are going to be doing over the four days."
Warwickshire squad: I.Bell (Captain), T.Ambrose (Wicket-Keeper), K.Barker, V.Chopra, R.Clarke, L.Evans, S.Hain, J.Patel, B.Rankin. J.Trott, I.Westwood, C.Woakes, C.Wright.
Brian Halford @brainhaldorf
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Bears win the toss and decide to bat
No Belly injured and is replaced by Laurie Evans
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4.3
Bird to Chopra, OUT
V Chopra not out 3 (15m 10b 0x4 0x6) SR: 30.00
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Westwood fails again.
IJ Westwood lbw b Fletcher 1 (35m 26b 0x4 0x6) SR: 3.84
Warwickshire 6/2 (9.4 ov)
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Westwood out for 1.
What is it with that bloody surname??!!
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Evans gone now as well.
LJ Evans c †Read b Fletcher 4 (20m 16b 1x4 0x6) SR: 25.00
There goes Hain.
SR Hain lbw b Fletcher 0 (8m 4b 0x4 0x6) SR: 0.00
Fuck a duck.
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Fletcher has 3 for 3.
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What has Westwood got to do to be dropped. It's getting criminal now.
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Westwood this season so far:
2 0 4 3 4* 1
Average = 2.8
Needs to be dropped for his own good, his confidence must be totally shot.
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Oh and we are four wickets down to a team whose best two bowlers have been called up for England.
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TR Ambrose lbw b Mullaney 14 (52m 38b 2x4 0x6) SR: 36.84
60 for 5
Trott on 32 joined by Woakes
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Trott has his half century.
98/5
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Trotty gone for 68 - c Hutton b Bird
Bears 122/6 ......Rikki has joined acting captain Woakes
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Bears now 223 for 7
Woakes 82 no and Barker 30 no
Rikki c Wessels b Patel 9
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Great century from Woakes
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Well done Woakes and Barker. Ffs Drop Westwood! Put Ateeq Javid in instead - Brown needs to look at this big time. Westwood just isn't good enough.
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Magnificent fightback by the lower order.
What a strange season this is turning out to be: our fifth game but only our fifth innings; all matches drawn; snow blizzard stopped play; the bottom 5 outscoring the top 5 in every innings.
I found out today (I never read the handbook/yearbook) that Bears members can get into Trent Bridge (and Old Trafford) for free this year apart from when we are playing there. This is great news as Trent Bridge is my favourite ground and they actually make you welcome.
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Fantastic effort from the lower order half yet again .At 60 for 5 three figures looked out of the question let alone 372 .Westwood 26 balls for one run and listening to it live on line you just knew it was going to happen .Like his namesake at Villa Park he seems to be undroppable .There must also be some serious doubts about Sam Hain who failed again to .Disappointing that given his chance Laurie Evans failed to take his chance .Still if we can bowl like Notts did before lunch and take some early wickets to put them under pressure we can win this game
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Lovely interview with Jonny Bairstow (https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/may/16/jonny-bairstow-adversity-family-cricket-father?CMP=share_btn_tw)
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Bears only added 1 run to overnight total 373 all out.
Steady progression with Notts reply, currently: 65-1 17.4 overs
Smith Ct Clarke b Barker 26
Mullaney 29*
Lumb 9*
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Lovely interview with Jonny Bairstow (https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/may/16/jonny-bairstow-adversity-family-cricket-father?CMP=share_btn_tw)
Just brilliant.
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113-1 28.2
Mullaney 43*
Lumb 47*
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139-2 32 overs
Mullaney Ct Ambrose b Woakes 56
Lumb 52*
Taylor 0*
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178-3 47.2
Taylor Ct Ambrose b Barker 16
Lumb73*
Wessels0*
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Other Div 1 & Worcs scores
Durham 411 Lancs 79-2
Somerset 562/7 Yorks 22/0
Middlesex 395 @ Surrey 50/2
Worcs 491 Sussex 59/1
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Notts 191/4 51.2
Wessels LBW Clarke 6
Lumb 74*
Patel 2*
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Tea 212-4 60 Overs
Lumb 84*
Patel 12*
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256/5
Patel Ct Chopra b Clarke 26
Lumb 106*
Read 0*
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266/6 75.4
Lumb Ct Clarke b Patel 108
Read 8*
Hutton 0*
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Other scores
Durham 411 Lancs 166/3
Somerset 562/7 Yorks 103/1
Middx 395 Surrey 127/5
Worc 491 Sussex 156/5
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316/7 91 overs
Read Ct Ambrose b Woakes 23
Hutton 35*
Fletcher 0*
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316/7 was close of play 92 overs
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Pretty even. Whisper it... this might not be draw!
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Pretty even. Whisper it... this might not be draw!
Unfortunately the weather forecast for Wednesday is dire, and yet another draw is well on the cards.
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Ah, I neglected to check the forecast.
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Warwickshire currently 14/0, effectively 14/1 as Westwood is stuck on 0.
Can he make it to lunch?
All joking aside, I hope he turns his fortunes around, life can't be much fun for a sportsman when you are so far out of touch.
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And the passenger Westwood is out for 1 off 26 balls,exactly the same as in the first innings. If he is not dropped for the next championship match he never will be
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The details of morning are: Notts 383 all out
Hutton Ct Evans b Clarke 59
Bird Ct Patel b Wright 9
Fletcher b Clarke 29
Then as already stated:
Westwood Ct Patel b Fletcher 1 certainly a walking wicket
Chopra 21*
Trott due in at 3 with Evans and then our other walking wicket Hain to follow.
Our bowling figures were:
Barker 25 6 75 2
Woakes 23 2 108 2
Wright 20 4 68 1
Clarke 24 5 72 4
Patel 17 6 44 1
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And the passenger Westwood is out for 1 off 26 balls,exactly the same as in the first innings. If he is not dropped for the next championship match he never will be
I've a feeling you'll be saying similar next season in the match thread.
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Other Lunch time score Div 1 & Pears
Durham 411 Lancs 299-8
Somerset 562-7 Yorks 167-2 Raining Due start at 13:45
Middx 395 Surrey 200-7
Worc 491 Sussex 278 & 6/0 following on
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Westwood out for the grand total of 1! Brown needs to be harder and drop him. Sorry, but I'm beginning to have my doubts over Brown. Team seems to be stagnating. Look at Giles at Lancs - wish Ashley was back at the Bears!
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I think in cricket you have to give batsmen a chance to bat themselves back into form, Westwood is probably very near the end of his window to sort things before he gets dropped but I'm glad they give people a chance like this. In much the same way with international cricket I think dropping a batsman after 1 series is harsh unless they're clearly out of their depth rather than struggling for form.
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Bears starting to motor 78/1 17
Trott 40 off 40 with 8 x 4's
Chopra 29 (40)
80/1 now lead of 70
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Anyone waiting for Westwood to come back into form, will be waiting a long time, he never showed any form in the first place. We must be able to do better, won't be challenging for the league with passengers, Yorks n others don't carry any, even when they have half their team on International duty.
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Westwood's scores including the final 4 matches of last season:
1 - 19 - 7 - 16 - 34 -17 - 2 - 0 - 4 - 3 - 4* - 1 - 1
13 innings, 109 runs at an average of 9.083. This is at a time when we are seeing massive totals racked up on batsmen friendly wickets
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103/2 22.5
Trott LBW Patel 59 To a ball that kept low 60 balls 10 x 4's Also brought his total of 1st class runs to 16005
Chopra 34*
Evans 0*
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Westwood's scores including the final 4 matches of last season:
1 - 19 - 7 - 16 - 34 -17 - 2 - 0 - 4 - 3 - 4* - 1 - 1
13 innings, 109 runs at an average of 9.083. This is at a time when we are seeing massive totals racked up on batsmen friendly wickets
Just when I thought I was going to get a break from watching a crap Westwood represent my team in sport.
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Updates on other games
Durham 411 & 43/0 Lancs 326
Somerset 562/7 Yorks 193/4 (Lyth 106)
Middx 395 Surrey 242 Not sure if enforced follow on (153)
Worc 491 Sussex 275 & 54/0
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Anyone waiting for Westwood to come back into form, will be waiting a long time, he never showed any form in the first place. We must be able to do better, won't be challenging for the league with passengers, Yorks n others don't carry any, even when they have half their team on International duty.
I don't watch enough county cricket to have an opinion either way, I just have a general principle that once you pick a batsman you have to give him around 10-12 innings before making a decision to replace him. Once you take everything into account that could be 5-6 mistakes, a few good deliveries and a couple of good bits of fielding which is enough to make a decision on.
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Chopra 50
132/2 31.5
Chopra 58*
Evans 4*
Evans struggling somewhat his runs were as a result of a boundary but has faced 31 balls in all.
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Evans Run Out 4 brilliantly by Jackson Bird but an unnecessary run
149-3 34.4
Chopra 75*
Hain in on a pair
Incidentally Chopra's 4th 50 of season one of which he made into a ton.
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159/4
Hain Ct Read b Bird 9 a good ball
Chopra 76*
Ambrose 0*
Lead 149
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Tea
180/4 45 overs
Chopra 82*
Ambrose 13*
Lead 170 with 32 overs left tonight, should have sizeable lead going into wednesday
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Other scores:
Durham 411 & 125/1 Lancs 326
Somerset 562/7 Yorks 213/4 Raining
Middx 395 Surrey 242 & 36/0 following on
Worc 491 Sussex 278 & 86/1
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First ball after Tea
Chopra Ct Read b Fletcher 82
Ambrose 13*
Woakes 0 *
180/5 45.1
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185/6
Ambrose LBW Fletcher 16 Ball that kept low
Woakes 2*
Clarke 0*
Got to bat the day out minimum....forecast not good for tomorrow though.
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186/7
Clarke lbw Patel 0
176 lead
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You can watch this live on Notts web site and look for live feed
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193/8
Barker Ct Read b Fletcher 6
Woakes 4*
Seemed to be a wide ball didn't need to play and got bottom edge
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202/9 Lead 192
Patel b Patel 6
Woakes 6*
Wright 0*
Real collapse since Tea
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23/5 since tea
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236 all out
Wright Ct Fletcher b Patel 20
Woakes 20*
227 to win
8 or 9 overs tonight
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Mullaney Ct Clarke b Barker 0
0/1 0.5 overs
Great low catch taken by Rikki
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14/2 5 overs
Lumb Ct Chopra b Barker 8
Smith 6*
Fletcher in as night watchman
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19/3 5.5
Fletcher Ct Chopra b Woakes 4
Smith 7*
Taylor 0*
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The Homestead of Snot's People making this interesting.
COYB!
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Close of play
21/3 8 overs
Smith 8*
Taylor1*
Barker 4 1 11 2
Woakes 4 0 10 1
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I've got a horrible feeling that the weather will have the final say in this one.
It could be a bad day all round for the Bears tomorrow. The result of the pitch inspection after last week's home game is also announced tomorrow.
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I didn't see any of the action but I had a feeling that we'd go for runs at the expense of wickets given the forecast tomorrow. 7 wickets needed on a wet day is very doable if we can bowl around 20-30 of those overs. Very much game on. We need a win after 4 draws.
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for those interested there is a legal live stream on the notts website. It doesn't have replays and you cant see the ball hitting the boundary, Its just a couple of camera's somewhere behind the bowlers arm so you see the balls,shots and hopefully 7 wickets
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What's pissed me off stuck at home all day is that Notts televise game through a live feed on their web site and i only realised about 14:00.
Hopefully that will be working for the T20 match there on Friday.
Yes Peter W can be very interesting tomorrow if we get sufficient play
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I've got a horrible feeling that the weather will have the final say in this one.
It could be a bad day all round for the Bears tomorrow. The result of the pitch inspection after last week's home game is also announced tomorrow.
There will be no penalty against the Bears.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/county-cricket-2016/content/story/1015649.html
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Westwood out for the grand total of 1! Brown needs to be harder and drop him. Sorry, but I'm beginning to have my doubts over Brown. Team seems to be stagnating. Look at Giles at Lancs - wish Ashley was back at the Bears!
His form has been poor, no doubt, and he is a Bluenose to boot but that ball would have got anybody out. There was a gasp of surprise from all around the ground at how it took off. On the other hand he had faced a fair few balls and comparing his strike rate with Chopra's at the time was verging on embarrassing.
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I've got a horrible feeling that the weather will have the final say in this one.
It could be a bad day all round for the Bears tomorrow. The result of the pitch inspection after last week's home game is also announced tomorrow.
There will be no penalty against the Bears.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/county-cricket-2016/content/story/1015649.html
Good stuff.
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I've got a horrible feeling that the weather will have the final say in this one.
It could be a bad day all round for the Bears tomorrow. The result of the pitch inspection after last week's home game is also announced tomorrow.
There will be no penalty against the Bears.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/county-cricket-2016/content/story/1015649.html
Good stuff.
That's a positive outcome. I'm sure Dougie's comments helped!
It strikes me that a "Cricket Liaison Officer" reporting in to a "Cricket Discipline Committee" followed by a visit by a "pitch consultant" who produces his own report are far too many levels of red tape. Where does the pitch consultant's report go?
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Thank heaven for Chopra ,Trott and to a lesser extent Woakes and Wright.Without them we would have struggled to reach 30
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Start delayed at Trent Bridge. It's not raining and the usual drying actions are underway. If it stops dry then play could start before lunch. It's a bloody big if though.
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Still not playing at Trent Bridge
Other scores:
Durham 411 & 239/4 dec Lancs 326 & 97/4 Lancs require another 228 to win
Somerset 562/7 Yorks 311 & 7/0 following on
Middx 395 Surrey 242 & 98/0 No play before lunch
Worc 491 Sussex 278 & 203/4 Sussex trail by 10
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Inspection at 2pm at Trent Bridge
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Further inspection at 2:30
It ain't gonna happen!
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Play due to start at 2:45
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Play under way...live stream working as well
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25/4
Gregg Smith b Barker 8
Taylor 5*
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25/5
Wessels LBW Barker 0 first ball
It is spitting with rain
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Good delivery to get Smith, looked like it kept low. Next ball he got got Wessels plumb in front 25/5
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25/5 Barker on a hat trick.
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This game changing by the minute, Notts moved onto:
108/5
Patel 63* (41) 11 x 4's 1 x 6
Taylor 25*
Require 118 off 31 overs which is very doable
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Taylor Ct Ambrose b Wright 26
Patel 68*
114/6
We needed that, Read in now
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Taylor gone, that's an important wicket.
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115/7
Read Ct Wright b Patel 0
Patel 69
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Tea 119/7
Patel 71 (48) 12 x 4's and a 6
Hutton 2
107 to win off 28 overs
Jackson Bird and Gurney still to bat.
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Other Scores:
Durham 411 & 239/4 Lancs 326 & 237/8 88 req'd to win
Somerset 562/7 Yorks 311 & 73/4
Middx & Surrey match drawn
Worc 491 Sussex 278 & 365/8 Sussex lead by 156
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Other Scores:
Durham 411 & 239/4 Lancs 326 & 237/8 88 req'd to win
Somerset 562/7 Yorks 311 & 73/4
Middx & Surrey match drawn
Worc 491 Sussex 278 & 365/8 Sussex lead by 156
A win here would be huge given that the only other game where a positive result possible is the Durham one.
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143/8
Hutton Ct Ambrose b Patel
Patel 94 (56) 12 x 4's 4 x 6's
Bird 1*
88 to win
24 overs left
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Samit Patel is on a one-man mission to deny us here.
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Durham bt Lancs by 73 runs
Yorks 88/5 at Taunton 19 overs left there
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Come on Warwick
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Other Scores:
Durham 411 & 239/4 Lancs 326 & 237/8 88 req'd to win
Somerset 562/7 Yorks 311 & 73/4
Middx & Surrey match drawn
Worc 491 Sussex 278 & 365/8 Sussex lead by 156
A win here would be huge given that the only other game where a positive result possible is the Durham one.
Durham have just won
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152/8
Patel 103* 12 x 4's 5 x 6's 68 balls
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Bird gone for 1
154 for 9
COYB !!!!!!!
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154/9
Bird b Wright 1
Patel 105*
Gurney in
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Samit Patel has just smashed 3 sixes off an Jeetan Patel over and is now 124 n.o
Notts 173 for 9 - need 54 to win
COYB !!!!!!!
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All out! YOOOOOOOOIUUUUUUU BEEEEAAAARRRS
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Got him!!
Good to get a victory under our belt at last.
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Yabba Dabba dooooooo
Samit Patel c Hain b Wright for 124
Bears win by 53..........
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173 all out
Patel Ct Hain b Wright 124 (81) 12 x 4's 8 x 6's 1 x 5
Gurney 1 *
Samit was brilliant to watch really took the game to Bears but we finish up winning by 53 runs
Bowling figures in a minute
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Bowling figures
Barker 11 2 38 4
Woakes 8 1 33 1
Clarke 4 0 23 0
Wright 7.4 0 23 3
Patel 6 1 46 2
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Table below we go top as Somerset can't go above us nor can Yorks who if get draw will only get 9 pts
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/county-championship-division-one/table
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Great win for the Bears,never thought i would be saying that ,after the first day when we were 17/4 and then 60/5 .
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Yorks 141/6 match drawn 9 points for Yorks puts them 1 behind bears.
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Table below we go top as Somerset can't go above us nor can Yorks who if get draw will only get 9 pts
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/county-championship-division-one/table
Up dated
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Well done you BEARS!!!
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Nice to finally get a win!
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That's a big win for the Bears. To start with 5 draws, albeit in weather affected games, would have been a poor start to the season and one where we would have struggled to recover from and we'd have been down towards the bottom of the league for the remainder of the season. There have been just five wins across the whole league and three times as many draws.
This side is pretty resilient!
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Keith Barker is now averaging 47.80 with the bat and has taken 25 wickets (6 more than anyone else) at 20.40 a wicket.
He must be knocking on the England squad's door.
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Keith Barker is now averaging 47.80 with the bat and has taken 25 wickets (6 more than anyone else) at 20.40 a wicket.
He must be knocking on the England squad's door.
I see him as a potential one day cricketer for England, in the mould of David Willey.
I think Barker's lack of pace would be shown up in Tests
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I think his time has passed - he's been on the fringes and England called up Wright over him previously didn't they?
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I think Barker would've been a good call up for this test because whilst he is a little slower he bowls good line and length from what I've seen and on a pitch that will offer you something that can be enough.
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Bears have won toss at Trent Bridge and are bowling.
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Team:
Hain, Bell, Porterfield, Evans, Ronchi, Woakes, Javid, Patel, Gordon, Wright, OHD
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Pears going well
Kohler- Cadmore scored 127 (54) 14 x 4s 8 x 6
168/4 14.4 overs
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Notts 18/1 3.2
Lumb Ct Patel b Woakes 8
Wessels 9*
Wood in
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18/2 3.4
Sam Wood Ct Hain b Woakes 0
Greg Smith in
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Apologies keep writing Woakes actually Wright who took the wkts
Worc made 225/6 off their 20
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33/2 5 overs
Wessels 20*
Smith 4
Gordon on now
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Team:
Hain, Bell, Porterfield, Evans, Ronchi, Woakes, Javid, Patel, Gordon, Wright, OHD
I thought Will Porterfield was injured. Great to have him back in action.
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60/2 8
Wessels 34 (23)
Smith 17 (14)
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74/2 10 Overs
Wessels 39
Smith 25
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101/3 12.1
Smith Ct Hain b Patel 43 (27)
Wessels 48*
Dan Christian in now
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Team:
Hain, Bell, Porterfield, Evans, Ronchi, Woakes, Javid, Patel, Gordon, Wright, OHD
That's one bizarre looking line up and what looks a very long tail especially considering our top order in the CC hasnt exactly been firing on all cylinders.
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109/4 14.1
Wessels B Patel 52 (41)
Christian 3
Patel in
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113/5 14.3
Patel Ct Wright b Patel 4 (2)
Christian 3
Mullaney in
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158/6 18.1
Mullaney B OHD 16 (11)
Christian 30 (17)
Read in
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163/7 18.4
Christian Ct Hain b OHD 34 (19)
Hutton joins Read
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179/7 20
Read 11 (6)
Hutton 4(3)
Bowling
OHD 4 35 2
Wright 4 32 2
Woakes 4 31 0
Gordon 4 58 0
Patel 4 23 3
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Other scores
Worc 225/6 Durham 147/5 15
Leic 178/5 v Northants
Somerset 158/3 14.5 v Kent
Surrey 74/4 9.1 v Essex
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Missed out Sussex who got a massive 242/5 v Gloucester 11/0 .5
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Maiden to Bell from Harry Gurney in first over...
Going to struggle here as Notts won't have a bowler as bas as Gordon.
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11 dot balls fuck me 1/0 2 overs
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I'm watching the bbc Internet live scorecard and after 1 ball Brett Hutton was going at 42 runs per over. That can't have happened very often.
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Bell Ct Patel b Hutton 11 (13)
Hain 31* (21)
46/1 5.5
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Good to see Hain get a few runs, he's been needing something like this.
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50/1 8 overs
Notts were 41/2 at end of powerplay
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Good to see Hain get a few runs, he's been needing something like this.
Indeed, hopefully it can kick start his season, if Porterfield can get a few as well I'm sure he will be a shoe-in for the next CC game in place of Westwood mk2.
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We nearly went for 2 maidens in first 2 overs which in T20 is obviously very rare.
Happened this year in IPL when Gujurat Lions failed to score in first 2 overs against Sunrisers.
The batsmen being a certain Brendon McCallum & Dwayne Smith
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85/1 10 overs
Hain 51 (32)
Porterfield 19 (14)
9.5 req'd
11 ahead of Notts at half way
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93/2 10.5
Porterfield B Patel 26 (18)
Hain 51
Evans in
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115/3 14
Evans LBW Wood 10 (11)
Hain 62 (41)
Ronchi in
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I'm going to stick my neck out here and say that overall Ronchi will give us more this season than McCullum did last year. I think it's a very good signing indeed.
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148/4 16.3
Ronchi Ct Mullaney b Christian 22 (10)
Hain 72* (46)
Woakes in
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24 needs off 18. Should walk it.
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Gurney bowling his last over - has only gone for 16 so far....critical over 17 req'd
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5 off last over needed
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Bears win with two balls to go.
YOOOOUUUU BEEEEEAAAAARRRRSSSSSS!!!
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185/4 19.4
Hain 92 (54) 12 x 4s & 2 x 6's
Woakes 16 (11) 1 x 4 & 1 x 8
Hain superb unquestionably.
Clarke in for Gordon next week for me. He was due to play tonight and was a late change for whatever reason.
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Happy with the Pears / Rapids - 127 from Tom Kohler Cadmore was v apt on the day it was announced Tom Fell had the all clear from cancer - TKC was the team mate who raised 5k having his head shaved! 5-28 for Joe Leach was great too.
Young lads are doing great for Worcs this year!
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Great win Warwick
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Excellent win! What happened to Clarke? We need his economical bowling - most dot balls in last year's competition. Gordon is too erratic - his 58 off 4 figures almost cost us the game.
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Excellent win! What happened to Clarke? We need his economical bowling - most dot balls in last year's competition. Gordon is too erratic - his 58 off 4 figures almost cost us the game.
He was in the 13 man squad, so I hope it was tactical decision. Hard to imagine the basis on which such a decision might be made, though.
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I note with interest that the Birmingham Bears now have a separate web site from Warwickshire C.C.C.
Birmingham Bears (http://birminghambears.com/news/report-notts-outlaws-v-birmingham-bears-natwest-t20-blast/)
Report: Notts Outlaws v Birmingham Bears, NatWest T20 Blast
By Dave Bracegirdle
Sam Hain powered Birmingham Bears to an impressive six wicket victory over Notts Outlaws on the opening evening of this season’s NatWest T20 Blast competition.
Set to score 180, the Bears reached their target with two balls to spare, in front of a Trent Bridge crowd of 10, 423.
Hain, playing the first T20 match of his career, had opened the innings and finished on a highly impressive 92 not out. The 20 year old scored his runs from only 54 balls, hitting 12 fours and two sixes.
Earlier, Notts made 179 for seven, with Riki Wessels contributing 52, having scored his runs from 41 deliveries, which included four fours and two sixes. Jeetan Patel was the pick of the Bears’ attack, taking three for 23, whilst both Oliver Hannon-Dalby and Chris Wright each claimed two wickets.
The Bears’ reply took some time to get under way, with Harry Gurney starting with a maiden and then Luke Fletcher’s opening over only cost a single. Ian Bell’s departure, for only eleven, to Brett Hutton, put the home side briefly in the ascendancy but a second wicket stand of 47 wrestled it back for the visitors.
William Porterfield fell for 26 and Laurie Evans made 10 but Hain stood firm, playing a selection of elegant cuts and drives on his way to a 32-ball half century.
Luke Ronchi blasted 22 from only 10 balls in his first match for last season’s semi finalists and Chris Woakes remained unbeaten on 16 at the end, hitting Luke Fletcher for the six that won the match.
Wessels and Greg Smith provided the platform for the Outlaws’ total, with the pair adding 83 in just 8.3 overs after Michael Lumb and Sam Wood had both fallen in the fourth over.
Smith made 43, before hitting Jeetan Patel out to Sam Hain at deep midwicket. Wessels needed only 37 balls to get to his 50 but he was then bowled, attempting a reverse sweep.
That brought Samit Patel to the crease, to face his namesake. In Wednesday’s championship match, between the two teams, the batsman hit the former New Zealand international for seven maximums in his breathtaking innings of 124. This time Jeetan Patel exacted swift revenge, having his man caught second ball for only four.
Steven Mullaney hit 16 from only eleven deliveries but was then bowled by Oliver Hannon-Dalby, who also dismissed Dan Christian three balls later, for 34.
Christian, who lit up the recent Big Bash League with some enormous blows, carried his six-hitting form into his first match back in the Blast; clubbing Recordo Gordon for three enormous blows in the same over.
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Another great win for the Bears over Notts .To win twice in a week at Trent Bridge is no mean feat .As for Clarke not playing,by all accounts it was a last minute decision to play Wright ,so maybe Clarke felt a twinge and they played it safe. It should be some game against the Pears next Friday night
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Another great win for the Bears over Notts .To win twice in a week at Trent Bridge is no mean feat .As for Clarke not playing,by all accounts it was a last minute decision to play Wright ,so maybe Clarke felt a twinge and they played it safe. It should be some game against the Pears next Friday night
I was worried after 2 overs when we had only scored 1 run! But wow Sam Hain.. what a T20 debut performance. This kid is going to be a superstar.
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If Hain can open the innings in the red ball game like he did last night and by all accounts also like he did in pre season against the West Indians ,then maybe we could see the back of Westwood
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Westwood dropped today, a young lad Andy Umeed takes his place. Clarke must be injured as he is out too.
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At last Westwood has been dropped,although i must say it is a bit of a surprise its young Umeed and not Porterfield who has been called up .Not surprised to see Clarke missing as he was injured in the championship match at Trent Bridge and was a very late withdrawal in the 20/20 match. Disappointing to see no Rankin again ,i just don't rate OHD
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Well he's already surpassed Westwoods run total for the season.
Currently 79-0.
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Good start for the Bears ,105 without loss at lunch .Umeed has had one or two shaky moments and was dropped by Collingwood of all people but the main thing is ,he is still there
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120/1 - Umeed 40 not out. Keep Westwood out! What's up with Rikki? Hope he's back for the T20 on Friday.
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Back on at Edgbaston 16:45
Moved onto 195/2 54.5
Bell Ct Borthwick b Carse 38
Umeed 70*
Trott 0*
I left when the rain came and got soaked moving from Block 18 to my car in disabled area behind Wyatt stand...couldn't believe how wet i got.
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1st batting point
200/2 56.5
Umeed 75*
Trott not yet off the mark
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201/3 58.1
Trott Ct Richardson b Carse 1
Umeed 75*
Hain in
Hope he can carry on from Friday night, been awful with red ball so far.
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Just said on commentary that Chris Woakes has been called up to Test squad due to doubts about Ben Stokes.
He will leave this game at close of play tomorrow night.
Hain Ct Richardson b Weighell 4
222/4 61.5
Umeed 86*
Ambrose in
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Umeed 100* well played.
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241/4 65.3
Umeed 100* (201) 270 mins 11 x 4's
Ambrose 5*
Scored a century on his first class debut for Bears. The last player to do that was Jeetan Patel.
242/5 66.1
Umeed ct McCarthy b Onions 101
Woakes in
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244/6 67.2
Ambrose ct Borthwick b Weighell 6
Woakes 1*
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now 6 down, the wicket must be getting a bit lively.
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We were 195/1 when Bell was out. The rain break has certainly made a difference and vindicated
Durhams decision to bat first. They must have been worried the way we started
246/6 68 overs another 9 left in the day if they get em all in.
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255/7 71.1
Woakes Ct Jennings b Weighell 4
Barker 7*
Patel 0*
Weighell 4-67
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Hopefuly it will be a case of having the runs in the book. Barker's in good nick, maybe he can get us up to 300.
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259/8 72.5
Barker Ct Richardson b Carse 10
Patel 1*
7/64 wickets gone!!!
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Hopefuly it will be a case of having the runs in the book. Barker's in good nick, maybe he can get us up to 300.
Bollocks
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I was gonna say that!!!
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Well done Umeed. The rest, not so much.
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Close
273/8 77 overs
Patel 8*
Wright 7*
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Strange innings for the Bears. We usually lose a wicket early and the bottom of the order gets runs. Big up for Umeed, his only other first class game was for Scotland against Afghanistan.
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Strange innings for the Bears. We usually lose a wicket early and the bottom of the order gets runs. Big up for Umeed, his only other first class game was for Scotland against Afghanistan.
A particularly meaningful innings for the lad as Durham were his first county who he played for through various age groups and let him go.
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I left at the same time as you PGW as I with sister and nephew and they didn't fancy hanging around. No rain at all a mile southwest of the ground.
Not great after such a solid start. The lower order have scored most of our runs this season so I suppose a collapse was due by the law of averages.
Anybody know what is going on with Rikki Clarke? Unavailable for selection was the official explanation.
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Fairly big collapse there by the Bears. If they can limp to 300 we'll have to see how Durham do in their 1st innings.
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So what do we know about this Umeed chap then?
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So what do we know about this Umeed chap then?
He's better at batting than Westwood is all I know about him
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Eurosport
Chris Woakes has replaced injured all-rounder Ben Stokes in the England squad for the second test against Sri Lanka, the English Cricket Board said on Monday.
Stokes limped off with a knee injury during England's first test victory at Leeds and further scans ruled him out of the second match, which begins at Chester-le-Street on Friday.
All-rounder Woakes, who has won six test caps, will play the second day of a county match for Warwickshire on Monday before joining up with the England squad on Tuesday.
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I left at the same time as you PGW as I with sister and nephew and they didn't fancy hanging around. No rain at all a mile southwest of the ground.
Not great after such a solid start. The lower order have scored most of our runs this season so I suppose a collapse was due by the law of averages.
Anybody know what is going on with Rikki Clarke? Unavailable for selection was the official explanation.
A knee problem, hopefully not too serious as i would like him to replace Woakes tomorrow.
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3rd batting point
303-8
Wright 17*
Patel 26*
83.4 overs
This pair put on 44 at the moment
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311/9 90.2
Patel Ct Stoneman b Onions 27
Wright 23*
OHD in
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313 all out 92.4 overs
Wright b Onions 24
OHD 1*
3 points each so far.
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Durham 83/1 25
Stoneman 33*
Borthwick 15*
Jennings b OHD 29
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Other Div 1 & Pears scores
Hants 250-9 v Notts
Surrey 191 Lancs 115/3
Somerset 355/6 v Middx
Leic 316 Worc 51/1 15.2
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Durham 92/2 29.2
Stoneman b Woakes 36
Borthwick 21*
Burnham 0*
17 overs till Tea
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97/3 33.3
Borthwick Ct Ambrose b Woakes 24
Burnham 2
Richardson 0*
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Just been confirmed that Josh Poysden will be replacing Chris Woakes from tomorrow morning.
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112/4 39.1
Burnham b Woakes 15
Richardson 1*
Collingwood in
Good to see Woakes making an impact before he disappears tonight.
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116/5 41.4
Collingwood Ct Barker b Woakes 2
Richardson 3*
Pringle in
Woakes 4/28
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Tea
123/5 46 overs
Pringle 5*
Richardson 5*
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The Durham card is starting to take the same shape as the Bears did. Luckily we had the century maker.
Woakes will be a big loss tonight. Interesting choice of a spinner to replace him. Doubt if the change will make it easier to bowl them out a second time.
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Woakes sounds like he's doibng his best to help whilst he's there, and making sure he's missed. England must be very happy to see him showing a bit of form the day after he's called up as a replacement.
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Woakes sounds like he's doibng his best to help whilst he's there, and making sure he's missed. England must be very happy to see him showing a bit of form the day after he's called up as a replacement.
James Whittaker is there watching him.
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145/6 57.2
Richardson ct Ambrose b Woakes 14
Pringle 18*
Weighell 0*
5/29 Woakes
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Fair to say that Woakes is stating a case to Whittaker. I hope he isn't being whisked off to be twelfth man.
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PGW probably buggered off to the beer tent. Durham 162-8, Woakes two wickets in an over now has taken 7-36.
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162/8 64
Pringle Ct Ambrose b Woakes 19
Carse Ct Ambrose b Woakes 0
Woakes 7/36
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I'd love to see the way he's bowling this because I've long thought he had the potential to have spells like this, he's quick enough, has a good line and length and can get movement in the air and off the pitch.
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In helpful conditions I'd have put money on Keith Barker to take wickets, he's a much under rated bowler. He doesn't seem to have had a sniff.
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Durham 190 all out.
Woakes 9/36
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Chris Woakes finished their innings with 9 for 36. A great day to be at Edgbaston to witness such h bowling.
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He now opens the Bear's 2nd innings and clonks 4 off the first ball. This is good stuff.
edit : Or not, out third ball.
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Woakes (and Notts' Ball) are off to join up with the England team after today, but the ECB have granted permission to bring in replacements for the rest of the match.
With that in mind, why have we opted to have Woakes open the batting? Surely better to pick a player who can bat a whole innings?
Anyway not a great start to the evening, 4 for 2.
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Chris Woakes finished their innings with 9 for 36. A great day to be at Edgbaston to witness such h bowling.
Puts him 8th in the all-time bowling lists for the bears according to the live feed on the beeb.
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Woakes (and Notts' Ball) are off to join up with the England team after today, but the ECB have granted permission to bring in replacements for the rest of the match.
With that in mind, why have we opted to have Woakes open the batting? Surely better to pick a player who can bat a whole innings?
Anyway not a great start to the evening, 4 for 2.
His replacement has been named - Josh Poysden. An odd cjoice given that it seems ro be a seamer's wicket. A spinner who is a bit crap with the bat. I wonder what would have happened if Woakes had made it to the close of play.
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Given that Ball was first choice as number 12 at headingley you'd think he'd get the nod. But, off a 9-36 and playing against a less than impressive Sri Lankan batting line-up England may see this as a good opportunity for Woakes who I think they've invested a bit of time in thinking he has a chance.
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Cracking afternoon down Edgbaston to witness Woakes in form like that.
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I was just thinking what would have happened if Woakes was to stay not out overnight. How odd to send him in with just a couple of overs left in the day knowing he wont be around tomorrow.
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Perhaps they thought that Poysden is such a poor batting option that a few overs of Woakes may have been a better option that him, given that he'd likely be out in less time.
Not sure what Woakes' dismissal was like but they may have told him just have a blast and if we can get a quick twenty or so runs out of you then great, if not, it's only Poysden's batting place that has been sacrificed.
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Perhaps they thought that Poysden is such a poor batting option that a few overs of Woakes may have been a better option that him, given that he'd likely be out in less time.
Not sure what Woakes' dismissal was like but they may have told him just have a blast and if we can get a quick twenty or so runs out of you then great, if not, it's only Poysden's batting place that has been sacrificed.
That'd be my guess seeing as he hit a 4 off the first delivery.
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Maybe they forgot Westwood is not playing and thought a couple of overs from Woakes was a far better bet .Only joking
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Cricinfo has Poysden listed twelfth but has him as "still to bat".
Are they letting us have twelve batsmen in this innings?
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I doubt their software has a "playing but not allowed to bat" option.
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scorecard isn't looking too clever right now with Warks at 100/7 so a lead of 224 which is probably enough given how the match has gone. Another 40-50 on the board would feel safer though.
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Only managed 114 so have set a target of 238.
Durham 15 without loss. Worried now.
No Woakes, no party?
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Could be worse, Leicester, who have somewhat bucked the trend this year after years of misery, revert to type by being skittled for just 43 by Worcester.
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Patel on in the 10th over and Poysden on in the 19th when the ball is swinging and seaming tells you all you need to know about the depth of our seam attack once Woakes has gone and Clarke is mysteriously missing.
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Anybody know what is going on with Rikki Clarke? Unavailable for selection was the official explanation.
Sulking about Spuds implosion at the end of last season perhaps?
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Only managed 114 so have set a target of 238.
Durham 15 without loss. Worried now.
No Woakes, no party?
Durham now 170 to win with no wickets down. Any chance of rain?
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79/3, with 159 needed to win for them.
Quite exciting really.
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87/4 37.3
Richardson Ct Patel b Wright 8
Jennings 48*
Collingwood0*
Wright 4/18
I've just got home from the ground and rumours and speculation were rife regarding Rikki Clarke but rumours of a disciplinary nature
abounded. I haven't a clue,the official line was a knee injury last Friday at Trent Bridge.....who knows.
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Come on Warwick, how long will they play until?
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Come on Warwick, how long will they play until?
22 overs left
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Any score, the twitter feed has gone quiet for the last hour?
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150/4 - Think they're favourites now
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Well i never seen that coming! Although seeing the form of quite a few of our batsmen this season i should have. As someone mentioned without Woakes and Clarke our bowling looks rather weak.Seeing as Durham never used spin at all and Patel only bowled 3 overs i was surprised we went for Poysden as the replacement for Woakes. It suggests they don't have much faith in the likes of Jones or Gordon
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Need to take a couple of wickets in the first few overs or we've totally Villad it.
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no wickets so fat moved on to:
171/4
Jennings has his century
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198/5
Jennings B Patel 113
Collingwood 37*
Pringle 0*
Only 40 required
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Collingwood LBW Patel 44
232/6
Sadly only want 6 to win!!!
Scores tied 1 to win
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All over!!
That second innings batting performance certainly cost us this match
6 points is all that we take from this.
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Boo.
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Our top order batting has been pants for ages it seems - we are always getting bailed out by the tail.
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Woakes had bloody well get selected on Friday now.
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Bloody Stokes cost us that match. We got in this match what we would have probably got in the Somerset match if it had not rained
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Well i never seen that coming! Although seeing the form of quite a few of our batsmen this season i should have. As someone mentioned without Woakes and Clarke our bowling looks rather weak.Seeing as Durham never used spin at all and Patel only bowled 3 overs i was surprised we went for Poysden as the replacement for Woakes. It suggests they don't have much faith in the likes of Jones or Gordon
Jones is injured, just for a change, as is Rankin. They are the cricketing equivalent of sick note Anderton and Concrete Ron.
I am a little concerned about Rikki Clarke. Several of the chaps with whom I would normally stop to have a quick chat were locked in deep huddled conversation with scowling faces; they are all big Clarke fans. And the commentators on BBC Radio went tight-lipped every time his name was mentioned.
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Bloody Stokes cost us that match. We got in this match what we would have probably got in the Somerset match if it had not rained
A wag from Durham tweeted that Stokes should be named Man of the Match for facilitating Woakes' removal.
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All over!!
That second innings batting performance certainly cost us this match
6 points is all that we take from this.
To lose from the position we were in after the first innings was a pretty poor effort. Told order need to start scoring again.
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Woakes has got the nod to start on Friday. No surprises there.
Torygraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2016/05/26/england-vs-sri-lanka-chris-woakes-returns-in-place-of-injured-be/)
England vs Sri Lanka: Chris Woakes returns in place of injured Ben Stokes
Nick Hoult, Cricket News Correspondent
26 May 2016 • 1:11pm
Chris Woakes will return to the England side in place of the injured Ben Stokes for the second Test against Sri Lanka tomorrow in Chester-le-Street.
Alastair Cook, the England captain, confirmed Woakes will play forcing Jake Ball of Nottinghamshire to wait for his first Test cap.
Woakes has regained his Test place on the back of taking nine for 36 for Warwickshire earlier this week just hours after learning of his call up to the squad for the second Test.
Cook also said that Jonny Bairstow will move up to six in the batting order and Moeen Ali to seven with Woakes slotting in at eight.
“We enjoy playing with a balance and this gives Chris another opportunity to play for England,” said Cook. “I don’t think we’ve seen the best of him yet in an England shirt, but he’s in fine form for Warwickshire – a nine-for and a hundred in the last two weeks. We know Ben balances our side really well, but we need competition for the all-rounder place.
“Certainly a lot of people want to come and watch him play, so he’s going to be a big loss for us, but injuries are part and parcel of a side and we need to learn how to play without him, and this gives Chris the opportunity to fill that all-rounder role. Mo goes up a spot and Jonny as well, so that gives them an opportunity.”
This will be Woakes’s seventh Test for England in three years and despite adding pace to his bowling he has struggled to take wickets at international level. He has eight wickets at 63.75 but bowling to Sri Lanka at the Riverside is a golden opportunity to improve that record.
England have liked Ball’s bowling but they have a series to win this week and do not want to gamble on a longer tail despite the hammering meted out to Sri Lanka at Headingley.
Nick Compton admitted yesterday that he is playing for his England place in this match and at Lord’s next week and Cook backed him to come good.
“Naturally that’s the nature of the beast. It’s quite refreshing that he’s come out and said it in one way,” he said. “You’re always under pressure when you’re playing for England because of the standard of competition for places. People want to take his place. He’s got another opportunity here. He’s practised really well. We know he’s a good player, there’s no doubt about that.
“Look at his record over the past five years, he’s been right at the top of the run-scoring chart. He played some good innings in South Africa, certainly at the start of the tour – that 80-odd, he battled hard and set up a good win. And he’s scored two hundreds already. So he can play at this level. Like all of us, he’s only a score away, and he needs a score, but he’s in a really good place to do that.”
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Well i never seen that coming! Although seeing the form of quite a few of our batsmen this season i should have. As someone mentioned without Woakes and Clarke our bowling looks rather weak.Seeing as Durham never used spin at all and Patel only bowled 3 overs i was surprised we went for Poysden as the replacement for Woakes. It suggests they don't have much faith in the likes of Jones or Gordon
Jones is injured, just for a change, as is Rankin. They are the cricketing equivalent of sick note Anderton and Concrete Ron.
I am a little concerned about Rikki Clarke. Several of the chaps with whom I would normally stop to have a quick chat were locked in deep huddled conversation with scowling faces; they are all big Clarke fans. And the commentators on BBC Radio went tight-lipped every time his name was mentioned.
So what are the rumours?
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I don't like to leave you hanging, as they say, but I don't want to be sued either, so I am maintaining interwebs silence on this one. It may be that Rikki's past exploits at previous clubs have coloured perceptions.
Nonetheless, he is not included in the squad for the Rounders against the Pears/Rapids tomorrow night.
Birmingham Bears have named a squad of 14 for tomorrow night’s NatWest T20 Blast derby with Worcestershire Rapids at Edgbaston.
Bears Squad.
Ian Bell (Captain)
Mark Adair
Laurie Evans
Recordo Gordon
Sam Hain
Oliver Hannon-Dalby
Ateeq Javid
Jeetan Patel
William Porterfield
Josh Poysden
Boyd Rankin
Luke Ronchi (Wicket Keeper)
Aaron Thomason
Chris Wright
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I don't like to leave you hanging, as they say, but I don't want to be sued either, so I am maintaining interwebs silence on this one. It may be that Rikki's past exploits at previous clubs have coloured perceptions.
Nonetheless, he is not included in the squad for the Rounders against the Pears/Rapids tomorrow night.
Birmingham Bears have named a squad of 14 for tomorrow night’s NatWest T20 Blast derby with Worcestershire Rapids at Edgbaston.
Bears Squad.
Ian Bell (Captain)
Mark Adair
Laurie Evans
Recordo Gordon
Sam Hain
Oliver Hannon-Dalby
Ateeq Javid
Jeetan Patel
William Porterfield
Josh Poysden
Boyd Rankin
Luke Ronchi (Wicket Keeper)
Aaron Thomason
Chris Wright
Nothing on bearsfans.co.uk unfortunately so you have well and truly left me hanging :)
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Can't the club clarify what's going on with Rikki? Always the fans seem to be left in the dark on these issues. Is he injured or not??
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I don't think we can afford to be sniffy about his abilities and leave him out. We'd be proper Charlies if we did, given his line and length. The selector must be a dope. His last gram of confidence will be going.
(The above is me guessing the reason for his exclusion for the way, if I'm right, just don't reply ;) )
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I don't think we can afford to be sniffy about his abilities and leave him out. We'd be proper Charlies if we did, given his line and length. The selector must be a dope. His last gram of confidence will be going.
(The above is me guessing the reason for his exclusion for the way, if I'm right, just don't reply ;) )
[/quotI don't think we can afford to be sniffy about his abilities and leave him out. We'd be proper Charlies if we did, given his line and length. The selector must be a dope. His last gram of confidence will be going.
(The above is me guessing the reason for his exclusion for the way, if I'm right, just don't reply ;) )
Excellent
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Now I'm confused, If no reply means it's correct what does a misquoted reply mean?
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Not a happy big Bear...had to take my cat to the Vet with some sort of infection/rash £75 lighter which also means ain't gonna get
down for the Pears game.
For once i will shout out '' Thank fcuk for Sky''. Will enjoy, lovely evening as well.
My cat's also got to have 2 teeth out....more expense.....
Come on you bears
Lost toss and are batting....really surprised Gordon starting.
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Yep, I'd rather Barker played instead of Gordon. Barker is decent with bat and ball.
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Any word on Rikki?? Seems a mystery. Really miss his economical bowling. He can also hit a long ball.
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Any word on Rikki?? Seems a mystery. Really miss his economical bowling. He can also hit a long ball.
I Tweeted Ian Bell this morning asking him or the club to give supporters an explanation......as i expected
nothing forthcoming.
Just said on TV not available
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After an expensive start, thanks to Dollys bowling, Pears are getting right back into this Come on you Pears!!
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By the way, this Yoooouu beeeaaars or whatever it is, is as sad as hearing Boing Boing at the Albion..
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By the way, this Yoooouu beeeaaars or whatever it is, is as sad as hearing Boing Boing at the Albion..
I'd rather be a bear than pear.....
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Hugh beeeeaaaaarrrrrr
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Birmingham City 155-7 in 20 overs.
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Rubbish from Gordon...too unreliable. Get Barker in!
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Rubbish from Gordon...too unreliable. Get Barker in!
Good call! One ball, one wicket.
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I wonder what had happened to Ricky Otto after he finished playing/left prison😂
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Birmingham City 155-7 in 20 overs.
Behave yourself.
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Wicket for Warwick, get in
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Lost cause this.
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Looks like game over. Fair play to the minnows, they've raised their game playing at such a big ground.
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Might be worth us signing D'Oliveira. He looks a player.
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Might be worth us signing D'Oliveira. He looks a player.
He is in the form of his life.His career wasn't going anywhere until he was made an opener towards the end of last season.Amazing what a bit of confidence does.
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Has there been any change to the coaching staff at Worcs that might have helped?
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Has there been any change to the coaching staff at Worcs that might have helped?
No I don't think so, he batted at 8 mainly in one day cricket, played very little 1st class cricket until moved to the top of the order..I doubt he will leave Worcester though..part of the dynasty!!
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Doesn't Nick Knight sound pissed off..you wouldn't have thought he had played for Warwickshire judging by his commentary.
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Average from the Bears. 15 runs below par. Bowling looks vunerable without Rikki.
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Average from the Bears. 15 runs below par. Bowling looks vunerable without Rikki.
I honestly don't care very much about the Rounders. Even though I am a member, I doubt I would ever go were it not for the nephew, who is well into the bollox.
I could not help but notice though, that were incredibly flat compared to our usual level of energy. I think the Rikki Clarke Affair has fucked us deep in the solar plexus, fans and team alike.
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We went last night as a birthday thing for my nephew. There was a bit of a fight at the end in the Hollis stand. There were was a group of Worcs fans acting twatishly for most of the second innings, with one prick in particular repeatedly turning to goad the crowd. Not condoning it but it was inevitable that it would cause a reaction given the beer fuelled atmosphere so little surprise when a few waded in, which had the stewards rushing into separate them.
As for the game, Warwickshire never really got going and the total always looked short.
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Warwickshire DID get going. We were looking at setting a target of 200 in the early stages. We went to shite more or less as soon as the Powerplay ended.
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Average from the Bears. 15 runs below par. Bowling looks vunerable without Rikki.
I honestly don't care very much about the Rounders. Even though I am a member, I doubt I would ever go were it not for the nephew, who is well into the bollox.
I could not help but notice though, that were incredibly flat compared to our usual level of energy. I think the Rikki Clarke Affair has fucked us deep in the solar plexus, fans and team alike.
What's happened to Rikki Clarke
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It was a very poor performance all round. I'm a massive Ian Bell fan but with only 3 wickets down on a relatively flat wicket a run a ball 50 is simply not good enough.
He is way, way talented enough to produce far more than that without even trying to hit people out of the park and as an experienced international and club captain he needs to lead more from the front.
His captaincy at the end left a lot to be desired as well, bring the field in, save the singles and make them try and hit it over you. We were in with no chance from a fair distance out unless we took wickets.
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By the way, this Yoooouu beeeaaars or whatever it is, is as sad as hearing Boing Boing at the Albion..
There is nothing in English sport that comes anywhere close to being as annoying as the Exeter tomahawk chop bullshit in the rugby, I really dislike the entire club purely on the basis of that utterly wanky chant.
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We went last night as a birthday thing for my nephew. There was a bit of a fight at the end in the Hollis stand. There were was a group of Worcs fans acting twatishly for most of the second innings, with one prick in particular repeatedly turning to goad the crowd. Not condoning it but it was inevitable that it would cause a reaction given the beer fuelled atmosphere so little surprise when a few waded in, which had the stewards rushing into separate them.
I've only been to a couple of T20 games at Headingley, both had big crowds and both had a lot of pissed up morons with seemingly no interest in the cricket.
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Very disappointing from the Bears again last night .To be honest i think we have just carried on from the second half of last season when lets be honest we were bloody awful.I was surprised and disappointed when basically nothing changed in the close season. Seems to be lots of problems going on in the background. Clarke has personal issues is all we are told,Chopra does not want to play in the 20/20 ,Trott and Barker are never considered .Wright who was decent at Trent Bridge is left out for the likes of the dreadful Gordon and OHD .Poysdon who played fairly well last season was totally overlooked ,when taking the pace off the ball seems to be the way to go in the 20/20 .
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If agree with all of that, loved Dougie as a player but i'm not sure he's got "it" when it comes to the top job.
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Shame Gilo went to England, which didn't work out and now Lancs are benefitting from a great Director of Cricket. Sorry, but Brown has no plan B. Overlooking the likes of Barker and Wright for the distinctly average/poor Gordon and OHD. A bit like Villa in a way, he doesn't do the obvious. Poor decision making.
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As much as i like Dougie Brown,i do think he is not up to the post of Director of Cricket . Some of his decision making is very poor. How he decided on Friday night to leave out Trott,Chopra and Barker who are probably our best players so far this season when he knew we were already without Woakes and Clarke just mystifies me .The Pears are always up for this match and as they are in a good run of form it was obvious it was going to be a hard match.Going back to the Durham Match,it seemed a strange call to call up Poysdon as replacement fo Woakes when there had hardly been any spin used in the game.I thought maybe he was giving him some match practice for the Pears game ,only for him to not be included
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Gloucestershire doing a magnificent job of chasing down over 300 in two sessions to win at Worcester it seems.
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Yorkshire won only their second Roses match in 25 years, having been 29/4 in the first innings it was a great comeback with the lower order once again getting runs and Bresnan contributing with bat and ball in his first game of the season.
My other half is from over the border and was taking the piss when Yorkshire were struggling, she now knows to wait until both sides have had a bat.
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Gloucestershire win. 135-5 at tea. This pair put on nearly 200 in the final session. Jack Taylor 107 not out and Klinger 102 including a four and a six to win it.
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Yorkshire won only their second Roses match in 25 years, having been 29/4 in the first innings it was a great comeback with the lower order once again getting runs and Bresnan contributing with bat and ball in his first game of the season.
My other half is from over the border and was taking the piss when Yorkshire were struggling, she now knows to wait until both sides have had a bat.
Ha ha. David Lloyd was giving it large during the Test Match during the early stages of the Roses game.
Always White over Red!
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By the way, this Yoooouu beeeaaars or whatever it is, is as sad as hearing Boing Boing at the Albion..
There is nothing in English sport that comes anywhere close to being as annoying as the Exeter tomahawk chop bullshit in the rugby, I really dislike the entire club purely on the basis of that utterly wanky chant.
I went to Sandy Park for semi final,80 minutes of it is enough to kill.
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By the way, this Yoooouu beeeaaars or whatever it is, is as sad as hearing Boing Boing at the Albion..
There is nothing in English sport that comes anywhere close to being as annoying as the Exeter tomahawk chop bullshit in the rugby, I really dislike the entire club purely on the basis of that utterly wanky chant.
I went to Sandy Park for semi final,80 minutes of it is enough to kill.
Doesn't surprise me, I haven't seen all that much of them in the last couple of seasons because I hate watching sport with no sound (it's surreal) but having the sound on irritates me far too quickly to watch for long. The missus tells me off if I put one of their games on now because she didn't like having to tell the kids to ignore me calling the fans a bunch of inbred morons.
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Back down to earth with a bang for the Pears Losing to their other local rivals at home after looking nailed on for a win.This young Jack Taylor of Gloucester sounds exciting and one for the future .Could we send them Porterfield back in exchange for him ?
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Keep your hands off him.
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He's just been banned from bowling again.
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Back down to earth with a bang for the Pears Losing to their other local rivals at home after looking nailed on for a win.This young Jack Taylor of Gloucester sounds exciting and one for the future .Could we send them Porterfield back in exchange for him ?
He's a chucker.
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Nice to see they enforce the rules in the Championship. A shame the ICC are so chicken when it comes to disciplining international slingers.
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Nice to see they enforce the rules in the Championship. A shame the ICC are so chicken when it comes to disciplining international slingers.
^^This
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Haven't they already cleared his action once?
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Very good win for Worcs over Chris's mob.........
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Very good win for Worcs over Chris's mob.........
I get the feeling Yorkshire enjoy T20 as much as I do.
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Mixed for the Pears last couple of days, Glos did a great job chasing in last session but excellent come back tonight vs Yorks. 3 from 3 in t20
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Mixed for the Pears last couple of days, Glos did a great job chasing in last session but excellent come back tonight vs Yorks. 3 from 3 in t20
Bears fan, but have to admit Worcs are looking good in T20 this year. Seem to be some good young players coming through at New Road.
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Rikki and Woaksie back in squad for tonight's game v Durham but still no Chops or Barker
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Rikki and Woaksie back in squad for tonight's game v Durham but still no Chops or Barker
I wouldn't have Chopra anywhere near the T20 side personally, Trott on the other hand.....
Glad Rikki is back though.
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Haven't they already cleared his action once?
They did after he proved that he had taken remedial action to correct his arm position, but he could hardly take a wicket. He's started taking wickets again this season but maybe that's because he's slipped back into an illegal bowling action.
It's a shame because England could do with some up and coming spinners.
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Barker should be playing instead of Gordon. Also, Wright for OHD. Hope Rikki plays tonight.
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Barker should be playing instead of Gordon. Also, Wright for OHD. Hope Rikki plays tonight.
Agreed no place for Gordon or OHD, both been found out now and aren't good enough.
Bowlers should be Woakes, Clarke, Barker, Rankin/Wright, Patel & Javid.
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It appears Chopra was in the squad, XI to play:
Chopra
Bell
Porterfield
Evans
Ronchi
Woakes
Clarke
Javid
Patel
H-D
Poysden
Let's hope it turns.
I'd say that's a strong eleven.
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Where's Hain? What is Brown playing at??
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Durham 118-8 off 17.
Woakes 3-14 off 3, he looks to have finally taken his game on to another level.
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Rikki and Woaksie back in squad for tonight's game v Durham but still no Chops or Barker
I wouldn't have Chopra anywhere near the T20 side personally
As you were.
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Yeah, Chopra is hopeless - couldn't make a ton!..OHD expensive again, why not play Barker??
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Hain was unwell/unfit so Chopra stepped in last minute.
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Was at the game tonight - most enjoyable, won at a canter.
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With Clarke and Woakes in the team, we are an entirely different proposition in the Rounders.
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Impressive win by the Bears last night .Won at a canter despite the best efforts of OHD .It was a shame Chopra was just was short of a century as he sounded in fine form .
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Lancashire looking like running up a huge total in The One Day Cup against Warwickshire.
Currently 220-4 after 38.5. Buttler is ominously poised on 77 off 59.
Chopra not In the team. After Friday's heroics I sincerely hope he is injured or ill.
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The season really is fragmented isn't it? Teams playing three different formats of the game in a week really doesn't make a lot of sense. Why not have county championship and 50 over tournament in the early part of the season and then finish the season off with a T20 competition in one block, culminating with the T20 finals day?
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I'll be disappointed if they get over 300 now
268/6 47 overs.
OHD bowling Buttler for 91 has hopefully decided that factor.
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296/8 innings closed
bowling figures
Clarke 10 1 48 1
OHD 10 0 57 1
Rankin 10 1 66 4
Poysden 9 0 50 1
Patel 10 0 51 1
Trott 2 0 23 0
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In their reply Bears:
52/1 10.4
Hain Ct Buttler b Smith 24
Porterfield 23*
Trott 1*
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85/2 18.4
Porterfield Ct Croft b Parry 40
Trott 17*
Bell in
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122/2 25 overs
Trott 41*
Bell 12*
At corresponding stage Lancs were 118/4 but had Buttler effect!!
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174/3 34.5
Trott Ct Croft b Parry 66
Bell 38*
Evans 0*
123 req'd from 15 overs 8.2/over
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176/4 36.3
Evans Ct Croft b Parry 1
Bell 39*
Ambrose in
Croft has taken two amazing catches
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Not looking good.
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106 off 60 balls
Bell has his 50 from 55 balls. Parry's final over just started he has 3/33 so far
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Ambrose b Clarke 6
197/5 41.3
Bell 53*
Clarke in
Not looking at all good now.
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Hell of a finish to the Cidershire v Gloucestershire Derby
Somerset were 9 down with 60 odd still to get.
Overton and Groenewald got there in the last over.
Superb performance
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Bears finished on 254/9....a tad disappointing to say the least.
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Having only caught up with it occasionally on the Internet that seems a hugely poor batting performance.
It's akin to all the things that were wrong with England's ODI side not too long ago.
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Very disappointing performance from the Bears up at Old Trafford after the good win over Durham on Friday night. Yet again some strange team selections from Dougie Brown and i suspect Ian Bell again.How they can leave out Chopra who was undefeated on 97 Friday night and replace him with either Porterfield or more notably Evans is beyond me.Like Westwood, he just can't put bat to ball this season
Leaving Javid out seems another strange decision .As is the continued policy of playing OHD in place of the likes of Barker and Wright . Ambrose is another who is failing to get the ball of the square this season and yet is selected over Ronchi who only plays white ball cricket for us
Still as a ex Villa manager would say,we will go again on Tuesday
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Very disappointing performance from the Bears up at Old Trafford after the good win over Durham on Friday night. Yet again some strange team selections from Dougie Brown and i suspect Ian Bell again.How they can leave out Chopra who was undefeated on 97 Friday night and replace him with either Porterfield or more notably Evans is beyond me.Like Westwood, he just can't put bat to ball this season
Leaving Javid out seems another strange decision .As is the continued policy of playing OHD in place of the likes of Barker and Wright . Ambrose is another who is failing to get the ball of the square this season and yet is selected over Ronchi who only plays white ball cricket for us
Still as a ex Villa manager would say,we will go again on Tuesday
I thought Ronchi was here for the T20's only.
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Anyone going Tuesday? I'm on a day off so it would be rude not to if this weather continues.
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This might take a bit of getting
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/36460075
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This might take a hit of getting
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/36460075
Fair play to Northants who are giving it a shot, 261-5 off 30.
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This might take a hit of getting
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/36460075
Fair play to Northants who are giving it a shot, 261-5 off 30.
Need 29 off 3 overs. Amazing.
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Fell 20 runs short in the end. Must have been a hell of a game to see
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Terrible dropped catch by Evans on the long boundary. O'Brien as well who is on 45. Leicester 86 for 2.
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Leicester got 240 odd. At one point it looked like they would get over 300 then a few overs later less than 200. Unfortunate injury to O'Brien. Radar in AccuWeather looks ominous to the west.Covers at halfway position in readiness.
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I see Chopra blasts 97 against Durham and is dropped for this one day cup competition! Brown's selection policy baffles me. Why is OHD playing and not Barker??
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117/0 in reply. Porterfield 58 Hain 45. Some glorious shots. Very little in the air unlike their innings which was very frenetic and air bound.
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Pissed it.
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Great knock from Hain. He's some player.
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Lovely day out.
Bit of a stroll for The Bears, the only tension in the end was whether Hain would get his ton before Evans stole it from him, in the end a 4 - 6 finish sealed it.
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Lovely day out.
Bit of a stroll for The Bears, the only tension in the end was whether Hain would get his ton before Evans stole it from him, in the end a 4 - 6 finish sealed it.
I suppose you had dropped off for a nap when they were 129 for 2 of 23 overs and K O'Brien was scoring boundaries at will?
I know what you mean though, it seemed as you described at the end.
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Good win for the Bears ,although to be honest just about every team beats the Foxes at the moment ,i think that is ten defeats on the bounce for them in this format of the game now .Good knocks from Hain ,Porterfield and Evans .I still think our bowling is not good enough,OHD and Wright struggled again .
Interesting to hear Clive Eakin on line saying that Chopra is not being selected for the white ball game as he has indicated that he will not be extending his contract and is looking to move nearer his home which i presume is near Essex .If true ,i go along with leaving him out
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Chopra is going to Surrey I believe. Another reason that Bell taking the captaincy was right
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Two changes for the Bears game at Trent Bridge from yesterday Wright and Rankin left out and replaced by Jones and Javid. Seems like OHD is the new Westwood, plays no matter what
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What on earth is going on at Warwick? Leaving out good quality bowlers like Barker and Rankin, already hampered by Woakes being with England, so we throw in a guy who is 29 with a one day bowling average of over a 100, and have a part-time bowler opening who averages over 60, and we expect this to cause problems to Lumb and Wessels who both scored rapid centuries a few days ago?
Should have known we weren't serious about going far in a one-day tournament this season when Luke Ronchi was the marquee signing whilst others sign the likes of Chris Gayle, Jayawardene and Afridi. Seems we've got a stubborn coach in Brown and people at the top more interested in spending money on the corporate and hospitality sections of the ground than on the salary of a proper overseas player. Surely a 'clever' (or actually quite obvious) idea would be to get a Pakistani or Indian overseas player, tap in to certain areas of the local fanbase a bit, if they demand an additional salary it will pay for itself with bums on seats.
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Well done done Dougie Brown that score posted by Notts just now beats by quite a distance the previous highest scored by a team against the Bears in a one day game. 415 beats the previous highest of 340 by quite a distance.That useless so called slow death expert of a slow death bowler as he likes to call himself OMD really excelled today 1-89 off just 8 overs ,has there ever been a poorer bowler play for the Bears? To be fair though Jones 1-85 and Patel 1-80 were just as bad. I said it a few weeks ago and i will say it again ,Dougie your a nice bloke but your out of your depth as DOC and need to go and there has to be doubts if Ian Bell has got what it takes to be a good captain .Still cant believe with the poor bowling options he has available he wins the toss and puts Notts in after the form they have been in the last week or so
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If agree with all of the above.
The current score indicates that we are going to finish miles off with wickets in hand again.
Just what is the point? I hope I am proved wrong.
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I'm sure I've read somewhere that Barker is injured.
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If agree with all of the above.
The current score indicates that we are going to finish miles off with wickets in hand again.
Just what is the point? I hope I am proved wrong.
We are going to end with a pretty decent score. I don't think you can blame the batsmen for today's atrocity.
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If agree with all of the above.
The current score indicates that we are going to finish miles off with wickets in hand again.
Just what is the point? I hope I am proved wrong.
We are going to end with a pretty decent score. I don't think you can blame the batsmen for today's atrocity.
Good knocks from Hain, Bell, Trott and Ambrose. If one of them had stuck around we'd have been in with a shout. The game was lost due to the 26 overs bowled by Hannon-Dalby, Jones and Patel going for 254 runs.
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If agree with all of the above.
The current score indicates that we are going to finish miles off with wickets in hand again.
Just what is the point? I hope I am proved wrong.
We are going to end with a pretty decent score. I don't think you can blame the batsmen for today's atrocity.
What's the point in a "pretty decent score" when you're chasing a phenomenal score.
Go for it or go home.
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I'm pretty sure they did go for it. The bowlers left them an impossible task. If Villa lose their opening game seven-five next season, I won't be blaming our forwards.
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More importantly, has Trent Bridge been moved to somewhere on the M1? Over 1500 runs in 200 overs in the last two days
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I never thought i would see the day the Bears post their best ever one day score of 379 and still lose by a fair margin .There again our bowling options are a lot worse than even i thought .Listening to the game on line the most worrying thing from a Bears point of view i thought,was other than the Bears guy Phil Britt, everyone else from about the 35th over were forecasting that Notts would reach about 420 .I remember thinking at the time,bloody hell we will have to bowl really bad for that to happen. There again when your regular opening bowler can go for 27 in the final over i should have half expected it
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If agree with all of the above.
The current score indicates that we are going to finish miles off with wickets in hand again.
Just what is the point? I hope I am proved wrong.
We are going to end with a pretty decent score. I don't think you can blame the batsmen for today's atrocity.
Good knocks from Hain, Bell, Trott and Ambrose. If one of them had stuck around we'd have been in with a shout. The game was lost due to the 26 overs bowled by Hannon-Dalby, Jones and Patel going for 254 runs.
We can't blame the batsmen, or even Patel as he is normally a very good bowler in both one-day formats. Brown's management, Bell's decision to bowl first and the bowlers out of their depth such as OHD, Jones and Javid (being used as a front-line bowler rather than a part-timer) all needs looking at.
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OHD is useless. 89 off 8 overs? Surely Barker wouldn't concede that many runs, and is a better batsman. Brown kept persevering with Westwood until the penny dropped. Also, where is Chopra? especially after that excellent. Something doesn't add up with Brown's selections; he's becoming the equivalent of Eric Black! Serious questions need to be asked by the Bears hierarchy.
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Pooligan gave the most likely explanation of the Chopra issue a few posts above and there is talk that Barker is injured, although i is hard to get confirmation about either case.
What I do know though, is that Bell said in a pre-season interview posted on this forum that were blessed with a wealth of seamers and it would be difficult to know who to leave out. He went further and stated that we would use the successful Yorkshire strategy of rotating the seam attack so that they would not blow up early in the season, which to be fair has happened to us quite a lot in recent seasons.
As I argued at the time, I don't think we are as good as quite a few pundits and the betting markets made out. The Middlesex spinner whose name I forget wrote on Espncricinfo last year that we were preparing wickets for Jeetan Pate, l which rings true to me.
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I have a feeling come the next championship match that dear old Dougie will work Westwood back in to the team on the back of his 230 not out in the 2nd XI a couple of days back .This despite young Umeed scoring a century on his only performance so far.
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Pooligan gave the most likely explanation of the Chopra issue a few posts above and there is talk that Barker is injured, although i is hard to get confirmation about either case.
What I do know though, is that Bell said in a pre-season interview posted on this forum that were blessed with a wealth of seamers and it would be difficult to know who to leave out. He went further and stated that we would use the successful Yorkshire strategy of rotating the seam attack so that they would not blow up early in the season, which to be fair has happened to us quite a lot in recent seasons.
As I argued at the time, I don't think we are as good as quite a few pundits and the betting markets made out. The Middlesex spinner whose name I forget wrote on Espncricinfo last year that we were preparing wickets for Jeetan Pate, l which rings true to me.
The big difference here is Bell needs to realise Yorkshire have an embarrassment of riches in this department, they could leave out someone like Sidebottom or Brookes and bring in Bresnan or Willey. We can't afford to be much off full strength to compete, maybe one bowler rested/injured/away with England at once.
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Pooligan gave the most likely explanation of the Chopra issue a few posts above and there is talk that Barker is injured, although i is hard to get confirmation about either case.
What I do know though, is that Bell said in a pre-season interview posted on this forum that were blessed with a wealth of seamers and it would be difficult to know who to leave out. He went further and stated that we would use the successful Yorkshire strategy of rotating the seam attack so that they would not blow up early in the season, which to be fair has happened to us quite a lot in recent seasons.
As I argued at the time, I don't think we are as good as quite a few pundits and the betting markets made out. The Middlesex spinner whose name I forget wrote on Espncricinfo last year that we were preparing wickets for Jeetan Pate, l which rings true to me.
The big difference here is Bell needs to realise Yorkshire have an embarrassment of riches in this department, they could leave out someone like Sidebottom or Brookes and bring in Bresnan or Willey. We can't afford to be much off full strength to compete, maybe one bowler rested/injured/away with England at once.
Spot on.
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Ronchi has been called up by New Zealand so he will go back in early July. The Bears are deciding whether to replace him with another overseas star or not.
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They'd better.
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They'd better.
Not much choice left. Anyone worth having would have been snapped up already, unless we can take one of the Sri Lankan touring party.
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With the exception of McCullum we've really struggled to capture the imagination with our overseas stars. A poor show.
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I'd argue otherwise. Other than Sangakarra I'd say our overseas players have been good players that have contributed heavily for us. Yes, not the box office players but important team players. Spinners seem to have concentrated our thinking over recent summers.
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We should be getting box office players. Get the crowds in. I'd never even heard of this NZ bloke before.
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Pretty big name on the 20/20 circuit and is certainly not an unknown.
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You cannot question the impact that many of the Bears oversees signings have had over the years. Donald, Pollock, Lara, Sangakarra, Steyn, McCullum and now Jeetan Patel. However we should be in the market for a marquee signing like a Gayle a Dhoni or an Afridi.
Why don't we sign a high-profile International from either India or Pakistan? Given the demographic of the local population, I'm certain that a signing like this would provide a huge boost to attendances in limited over cricket and open up whole new commercial markets.
It does make me question whether we have the money to fund such a signing whilst we're paying for the new pavilion.
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I'm not doubting the quality of some of them, but you're going back a few years. Since Twenty20 came along we've gone without a big name more often than we've had one.
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Warwickshire CCC (http://warwickshireccc.com/news/squad-warwickshire-v-derbyshire-falcons-royal-london-one-day-cup/)
Squad: Warwickshire v Derbyshire Falcons, Royal London One-Day Cup
Warwickshire County Cricket has named an initial squad of 12 for tomorrow’s Royal London One-Day Cup match at Edgbaston against Derbyshire Falcons.
Ian Bell (Captain)
Mark Adair
Tim Ambrose (Wicket-Keeper)
Varun Chopra
Rikki Clarke
Laurie Evans
Sam Hain
Oliver Hannon-Dalby
Ateeq Javid
Jeetan Patel
Josh Poysden
Jonathan Trott
William Porterfield and Boyd Rankin have now joined up with Ireland for the two One-Day Internationals against Sri Lanka whilst Chris Wright is unavailable due to a side strain.
Play gets underway at 2pm with tickets available on the gate at £15 for adults and FREE for Under 16s when accompanied by an adult.
Live ball-by-ball commentary will be available on BBC Radio WM and BBC Radio Coventry & Warwickshire.
Weather forecast is ghastly:
Met Office (http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast/gcqdkv2r4#?fcTime=1465948800)
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Matthew Wade to replace Ronchi. Good move.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/36538958
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Matthew Wade to replace Ronchi. Good move.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/36538958
Yes a good signing.
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Warwickshire County Cricket Club
25 mins ·
Unfortunately due to the heavy rain the umpires have abandoned today's #RLODC game vs Derbyshire. #YouBears
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Until the rain came in at Old Trafford Adam Lyth had made 43 off 18 deliveries to go with his 125 from 78 yesterday. Not sure what's happened to him all of a sudden!
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Lyth, 101* off 67 balls. He's suddenly become a one day specialist!
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Buttler out for a duck and next batsman out first ball.
The dark side are 66/5 chasing 325/7 with 36 overs remaining. Yorkshire surely can't chuck this one away?
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Won by 242 runs, that's quite a margin of victory and makes it even more enjoyable against Lancashire at Old Trafford.
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Good to see young Thomason and Adair getting a game tonight at Derby .On the downside,somehow OHD keeps his place
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Good to see young Thomason and Adair getting a game tonight at Derby .On the downside,somehow OHD keeps his place
I think OHD is a decent T20 bowler. He struggles when we play him in 50 over cricket.
I saw the highlights of the 2014 T20 final when we beat Lancs the other day. He bowled with skill and variety and took wickets at important times. He returned good figures tonight too.
Patel is starting to be a concern, he seems to be pretty expensive in limited overs cricket. He was expensive tonight and was woefully out of touch in the massacre at Trent Bridge. Let's hope it's the damp conditions that are hampering him.
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Good to see young Thomason and Adair getting a game tonight at Derby .On the downside,somehow OHD keeps his place
I think OHD is a decent T20 bowler. He struggles when we play him in 50 over cricket.
I saw the highlights of the 2014 T20 final when we beat Lancs the other day. He bowled with skill and variety and took wickets at important times. He returned good figures tonight too.
Patel is starting to be a concern, he seems to be pretty expensive in limited overs cricket. He was expensive tonight and was woefully out of touch in the massacre at Trent Bridge. Let's hope it's the damp conditions that are hampering him.
Good point about OHD, Villan For Life. I think his chest on action lets him make very last moment adjustments to what the batsman is doing.
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Great T20 debut from my countryman Mark Adair.
MR Adair 4 0 29 1 7.25
Only Rikki Clarke beat his economy rate.
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That was a bit to close for comfort winning off the last ball .From being so much in control to the situation we found ourselves in needs looking at i would suggest .Dougie Brown certainly seemed to think so listening to him after the match.Good performances from Adair,Woakes,Hain,Clarke and Bell i thought .
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Yeah, still early in the season but I'm disappointed with the amount of games that our batsmen have let us down and the amount we've lost. Still time but I wanted more from Hain, Evans, Porterfield, and I'm not happy with the bowlers outside the usual suspects. We could and should be pressing home our superior advantage but our struggling to find the killer instinct that winners have.
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Would be nice to get one over Lancs today,just been reading they have won 6 out of the last 8 meetings between the two sides and have lost only once in their last 7 trips to Edgbaston .Bloody hell our record against them is even worse then i thought..As usual the two biggest dangers when we play them will probably be Buttler and Parry .Get rid of the one cheaply and do not let the other one dictate to us and we will be well on the way
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Lancs are 39-4 off 6.3 over but it's raining. Clarke got Buttler caught and bowled for a duck.
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Bears won by 18 runs under Duckworth Lewis.
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Warwickshire win on Duckworth / Lewis.
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Nice one Warwick
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In the absence of any football and the lounge to myself I decided to give the hit and run a go. Still not doing it for me, don't think it helps that once a side has batted 5 overs (30 deliveries!) you can get a result.
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You have lounges in Yorkshire? How posh are you?
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You've never been to Harrogate I take it?
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Warwickshire win on Duckworth / Lewis.
Was at Edgbaston earlier and although it was good to get a win, the way it ended was a disappointment. To be honest, the rain was not heavy at that point and I've seen games played out in worse conditions. I wonder if the fact there is an ODI at Edgbaston this week was a factor.
On a side note, Ronchi's innings was excellent. Struck the ball very well at times.
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Preview: Lancashire v Warwickshire, Specsavers County Championship
19 Jun 2016
Brian Halford
Dougie Brown knows that Warwickshire face a stern test when they return to Specsavers County Championship action against surprise early-season pace-setters Lancashire at Emirates Old Trafford on Monday.
The Red Rose are top of the table after making a strong start to their return to Division One following promotion last season, which was their first under the command of former Bears director of cricket Ashley Giles.
Lancashire v Warwickshire is always a fixture with plenty of edge as two big clubs with big support-bases lock horns. And just now it has an extra dimension. After all, it's not every championship match where the opposing directors of cricket were best man at each other's wedding.
"There is an extra element to the match, of course, because Ash and I are very good friends and know each other unbelievably well," said Brown.
"We are in different camps now but still meet and chat about what's going on and about cricket in general. There's absolutely no harm in that.
"Ash knows a lot about most of our guys, of course, having been director of cricket here until quite recently. But it doesn't matter how much people know about you, if you are good players playing to the best of your abilities you should find yourself in a strong position.
"That's what we will be aiming to do - build a strong position and then push on and maximise it.
"We know it will be a tough game. Lancashire have started the season really well and are quite buoyant. They have a good method which seems to suit their team and their players all knows their roles within the team which is so important.
"But we played some good championship cricket in the opening games of the season and are really looking to getting back out there with the red ball."
Like all counties, the Bears must readjust to four-day cricket in a phase of the season in which all three formats feature. After a flurry of 50-over games, the Bears face 20-over games on Friday and Sunday before the championship resumes on Monday, the schedule throwing them into all three formats in a week.
"It's not ideal but it's the same for every county and certainly no excuse for not performing in any of the formats," said Brown. "As a coach and a player you just focus on what is immediately in front of you and your thoughts are on that alone.
"We are really looking forward to returning to championship action because we know that four strong days and a good result against Lancashire would put us right up among the leaders."
Lancashire-born all-rounder Keith Barker will return to the Bears' squad having recovered from the ankle-impingement which ruled him out of the early 50-over North Group games.
"We would like Barks to be available for 50-over cricket because we know he could play a significant role with the two new balls and bowling with the Kookaburra," Brown said. "But the key for us was getting him right for the championship game at Old Trafford."
Warwickshire Squad
Ian Bell (Captain)
Mark Adair
Tim Ambrose (Wicket-Keeper)
Keith Barker
Varun Chopra
Rikki Clarke
Sam Hain
Oliver Hannon-Dalby
Jeetan Patel
Josh Poysden
Boyd Rankin
Jonathan Trott
Andy Umeed
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I see the start is delayed. Anyone know if the weather up in Cottontown is as bad as down here? Is there likely to be any play today?
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Great to see we finally got one over Lancs yesterday.Not in the ideal way obviously but they knew there was a forecast of rain around 4 pm and took the chance putting the Bears in and paid the price.Sounded a great innings by Ronchi .On the downside ,batting failures by Clarke and Patel again .I doubt if Patel has totaled 10 runs in all his one day innings put together this season
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A good recovery by Ambrose & Barker. 206/6, having been 102/6. What's wrong with Bell, Trott & Hain?? Really out of form. Batting is really suspect.
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Odd that we've had a reasonable batting line-up, added two England batsmen who must rank among the best players to ever play for the Bears... and developed a shit batting line-up!
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Lancs declared 266/8
setting Bears 312 to win 2 and a bit sessions left
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No chance. We couldn't do that in two days let alone two sessions.
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28-0 after the first 5 suggests they're tempted to give it a go.
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I assume that with 2 sessions to go there are a further 64 overs left to get them, so a further 284 required at approx 4.5 per over.
Possible but difficult. Needs a few top drawer performances,
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I assume that with 2 sessions to go there are a further 64 overs left to get them, so a further 284 required at approx 4.5 per over.
Possible but difficult. Needs a few top drawer performances,
I suspect that these 2 and bell have been given the go ahead to chase it, if we lose a couple of them or aren't getting anywhere near then we shut up shop and play for the draw. Alternatively if we can get to 150-160 by tea with only 1 or 2 down then there might be some fireworks. Fair play to Lancs, it's a great target to set because it's very tempting.
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There are 61 overs left and we are 43/0 11 overs
Chopra 25
Umeed 14
Make that 47/0 4 more for chopra
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52/1 13.3
Umeed Ct Croft(w/k) b Jarvis 17
Chopra 29
Bell in on a pair
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Moved on to:
73/1 23 overs
Chopra 42
Bell 7
4.9 r/o req'd
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84/2 30.2
Chopra LBW Parkinson 48
Bell 12*
Trott in
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Looks like Umeed going was all it took to stop the chase, this looks a lot like seeing out the overs now. Maybe once Trott settles they'll "go again".
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Run rate has dropped to below three and Trott is on 4 from 35 balls, safe to say they are playing for the draw now.
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Yes it has at Tea Bears 102/2 40 overs
Trott 5
Bell 21
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195/2 72 overs match drawn
111 run partnership for unbroken 3rd wkt.
Bell 55*
Trott 50*
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Leis are 15/3 but rain delay now. Good start you Bears, but why oh why is Gordon back in the line-up? I can't fathom why we leave Barker out of the T20?? I'd rather Rankin or Wright were picked ahead of Gordon.
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I rest my case; Gordon still conceded 34 runs off his 4 overs despite Leics only scoring 127 off 20 overs....
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because Barker is a great bowler. We need him for a good few seasons. It's the same reason Anderson doesn't do one dayers
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Gordon is one of those bowlers who will often take 3/40 odd in a T20. He is expensive but the wickets he takes are often crucial as batsman feel they can take him on more.
Wright and Barker are much better in the longer formats.
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You will not be at all surprised to learn that the weather forecast suggests there will be nothing like 4 days play.
Director of cricket Dougie Brown has called on his Warwickshire team to display their "ruthlessness" when they face Nottinghamshire in the Specsavers County Championship at Edgbaston tomorrow.
The Bears will be chasing a double over Nottinghamshire after their 53-run win at Trent Bridge last month, a remarkable victory forged from the fragile foundation on 17 for four after the first hour's play.
Centuries from Chris Woakes and Keith Barker turned the match round and after Varun Chopra and Jonathan Trott (with his second half-century of the match) left the home side a target of 247, Barker and Chris Wright shared seven wickets to bowl Nottinghamshire out.
That remains the Bears' only championship win so far this season, last week's tussle with Lancashire at Emirates Old Trafford having ending in a fluctuating and hard-fought draw after the Bears finished on 195 for two having been set a notional target of 312 in a minimum of 72 overs.
"It was a really good game," said Brown, "a hard-fought draw with some excellent cricket which again showed how strong this league is. Both sides had periods on top but both showed the resilience to fight their way out of trouble.
"On the last afternoon Ian Ball and Jonathan Trott batted really well on a turning pitch to see us to a draw. Looking at the score it sounds comfortable but wickets had fallen in clusters all through the game so Belly and Trotty knew we needed to prevent new batsmen having to go in on a wearing pitch.
"The target Lancashire set us was never realistic. All through the game runs were scored at two or two-and-a-half an over so chasing four and a half was not feasible. Most times either side tried to score quickly during the match they lost wickets.
"It was another solid performance from us but we just need to show more ruthlessness at certain times. That's what we need to do against Nottinghamshire - to come fast out of the blocks well, get ahead of the game and then stay ahead of it.
The Bears have named an unchanged 13-strong squad as they prepare to face a Nottinghamshire team licking its wounds from a shock 228-run defeat to Surrey at The Kia Oval.
"There's no doubt there will be a response to that defeat from Nottinghamshire," said Brown. "They are a good side and I don't think their position in the table at the moment does them justice.
"We have just got to go out there and play the strong cricket which we have done at times in every game this season, but more consistently. We want to build pressure and then maintain it and get ourselves our first home championship win of the season."
Warwickshire Squad
Ian Bell (Captain)
Mark Adair
Tim Ambrose (Wicket-Keeper)
Keith Barker
Varun Chopra
Rikki Clarke
Sam Hain
Oliver Hannon-Dalby
Jeetan Patel
Josh Poysden
Boyd Rankin
Jonathan Trott
Andy Umeed
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Pretty emphatic win over Leicestershire, just as about as easy as it gets. Like Villafirst i find it hard to understand the inclusion of Gordon .I see they have allowed Jones to go out on loan to Leicester again,i know he is injury prone,but surely he has to be a better bet than Gordon .Here's hoping for some nice weather Sunday morning
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Earlyish wkt for Bears:
133-7 63.4
Christian Ct Ambrose b Clarke 21
Hutton 9*
Fletcher in
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136/8 69.3
Hutton Ct Ambrose b Clarke 12
Fletcher 0*
Carter in
5th catch for Ambrose
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152/9 75.2
Carter Ct Hain b Patel 2
Fletcher 13*
Ball in
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Ball St Ambrose b Patel 0
Fletcher 13*
152 all out 76 overs
6 dismissals in innings for Ambrose which equals Spooners record v Nottinghamshire for Bears
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Bowling Figures
Barker 20 5 45 1
Clarke 18 7 24 3
Adair 12 4 29 0
Rankin 21 4 42 3
Patel 5 3 8 3
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Only 2 other games in Div 1:
Hants 219 v Somerset 135/2 34.1
Lancs 351/4 114.4 at Middx
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2/1 1 over
Chopra Ct Hutton b Ball2
Umeed 0*
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11/2 5 overs
Umeed Ct Mullaney b Ball 0
Bell 1*
Trott in
30 the highest partnership in match so far.
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28/3 10.1 Lunch
Bell Ct Mullaney b Ball 10
Trott 8
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48/4 17.5
Trott LBW Hutton 18
Hain 5*
Ambrose in
Out to a ball that just did not get up. Pitch playing up to say the least.
Could struggle on this batting last.
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117/5 31.2
Hain Ct Wessels b Carter 39
Ambrose 35*
Clarke 0
Partnership of 69, highest so far in match, much needed.
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Bears have the lead:
154/5 43 overs
Ambrose 51*
Clarke 21*
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Tea
Bears 162/5 47 overs
Ambrose 55
Clarke 24
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The 2 other Tea time scores from Div 1 are:
Hants 219 v Somerset 358/5 80 overs
Lancs 513 @ Middx 27/0 12 overs
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181/6 51 Overs
Ambrose Ct Mullaney b Patel 72
Clarke 26*
Barker in
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Clarke 50
225/6 66 overs
Clarke 52
Baker 15
Lead of 73
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236/7 67.5
Barker St Wessels b Mullaney 21
Clarke 57*
Adair in
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264/8 74.5
Clarke Ct Hutton b Ball 74
Adair 10*
Patel in
Lead 112
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Close of Play
Bears 283/8 79 overs
Adair 19*
Patel 10*
Healthy lead of 131
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302/9 84
Lead 150
Adair 32 Ct Taylor b Hutton
Patel 14*
Rankin in
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311 all out 86.1
Rankin Ct Taylor b Christian 2
Patel 19*
Lead a useful 159
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Notts in reply 3/1 2.5 overs
Libby Ct Clarke b Barker 1
Mullaney 2*
Lumb in
156 behind
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Lunch
Notts 62/1 22 overs
Mullaney 30*
Lumb 27*
Bears lead down to 97
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70/2 25.2
Lumb LBW Patel 32
Mullaney 32*
Taylor in
89 behind
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Gonna get fucked by light and weather.
Guaranteed.
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Can't see there being any more play today, still tipping it down.
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CD correct play abandoned for the day with Notts on:
81/2 28.3 over
Mullaney 38
Taylor 5
78 behind.
Shit forecast tomorrow.
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Game already abandoned for the day so drawn game
11 Pts Bears , 8 for Notts.
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Fucking great.
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Fucking great.
Yeah. That's ca few games now this season where the weather has cost us a chance of winning.
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Birmingham Bears have named a squad of 13 for tomorrow's top of the table NatWest T20 Blast match at Edgbaston.
Ian Bell (Captain)
Mark Adair
Rikki Clarke
Laurie Evans
Recordo Gordon
Sam Hain
Oliver Hannon-Dalby
Ateeq Javid
Jeetan Patel
William Porterfield
Luke Ronchi
Josh Poysden
Aaron Thomason
Gates open at 5pm with the first ball at 7pm.
Weather looks well fucked, again.
Met Office (http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast/gcqdkv2r4#?fcTime=1467331200)
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Birmingham Bears have named a squad of 13 for tomorrow's top of the table NatWest T20 Blast match at Edgbaston.
Ian Bell (Captain)
Mark Adair
Rikki Clarke
Laurie Evans
Recordo Gordon
Sam Hain
Oliver Hannon-Dalby
Ateeq Javid
Jeetan Patel
William Porterfield
Luke Ronchi
Josh Poysden
Aaron Thomason
Gates open at 5pm with the first ball at 7pm.
Weather looks well fucked, again.
Met Office (http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast/gcqdkv2r4#?fcTime=1467331200)
That seam attack looks so weak without Woakes or Barker.
I think the weather will be good enough to get a game in, though probably not the full 20 overs a side.
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Pears have got under way at New Rd but i daresay they are wishing they hadn't.
47/4 5.3 overs v Derby
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Pears 79/6 9.4 overs.
Not managing this innings too well....80/6 10 overs
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Pears moved onto 123/7 16 overs, match uninterrupted so far, have had a few drops.
Absolutely hammering it down at mine 1 mile from Edgbaston...not looking good for a prompt start.
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Lovely sunshine over mine now.
Pears posted a good score
185/7 20 overs
Considering they were 79/6
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Inspection at 19:15 at Edgbaston
Blotters picking up a lot of water
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Further inspection at 19:40. Umpires concerned about one or two wet patches.
Derby 54/1 5.2 overs in reply to Pears
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19.55 start for bears game of 17 overs match
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Gordon & Thomason left out of thae 13 from squad posted earlier.
5/0 1 over Bears who were put in
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7/1 1.3
Hain Ct Wakely b Gleeson 5
Bell 2*
Porterfield in
Essex and Notts have asked to speak to Chopra who hasn't as yet been offered a new contract apparently
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8/2 1.5
Bell b Gleeson 2
Porterfield 1*
Evans in
9/2 2 overs
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10/3 2.3
Evans Ct Levy b Ashraf 0
Porterfield 1*
Ronchi in for last appearance
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19/4 4
Ronchi Ct Levi b Gleeson 7
Porterfield 2*
Clarke in
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25/5 6.1
Porterfield Ct Wakely b Azarullah 5
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Bears batting woeful again - Chopra should be playing and I'd rather have Trott than Evans or Porterfield tbh
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Very bizarre that we finish this game around ten tonight and then start against Surrey in Guildford 13 hours later !
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43/6 9.1
Clarke b White 15
Ateeq 6
Adair in
Worc 185/7 20 Derby 188/3 18.5
Yorks 141/7 18 inns closed
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50/7 10.4
Adair b Cobb 2
Ateeq 11
Patel in
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71/8 13.2
Patel St Rossington b White 7
Ateeq 25
OHD in
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86/8 16 innings closed
Ateeq 34*
OHD 5*
As innings further reduced total may get slightly adjustd up
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Not a surprise to learn...Bears lost by 8 wkts.
In terms of the league not too much damage with Pears and Lancs losing and Notts rained off. Remain 2nd with Northants 2 pts clear.
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I actually quite enjoyed the Roses match, glad the umpires kept them out in the middle despite the rain, made for a good, tight finish. Yorkshire's catching was superb but the best cricket shot of the night only brought a single for Lancashire, still struggling with this format!
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Surrey won the toss and batted
and are 19/0 4.5
Harinath ct by Chopra off Barker but he had overstepped
21/0 5 overs
Team: Chopra, Umeed, Bell, Trott, Hain, Ambrose, Clarke, Barker. Petel, Rankin. & Poysden
25/0 5.2
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Surrey 35/1 8.4
Harinath Ct Ambrose b Barker 15
Burns 14*
Ansari in
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Surrey 79/1 29 overs
Burns 45*
Ansari 11*
Rain stopped play...i assume will take early lunch
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89/2 31.2
Burns LBW Patel 45 FOW 79/2
Ansari 11*
Finch 10*
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95/3 34.5
Ansari LBW Barker 11
Finch 15*
Davies in
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Raining at Guildford again, Surrey 123/3 39.5
Finch 33*
Davies 10*
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Back on at Guildford..just added a single so far 124/3 40.3
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Surrey 144/4 45.1
Davies Ct Ambrose b Clarke 13
Finch 50*
Sam Curran in
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180/5 55.4
Sam Curran Ct Clarke b Rankin 15
Finch 70*
Foakes in
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A flurry of wickets at Guildford
243/6 Finch Ct Clarke b Patel 110
245/7 T. Curran b Patel 1
251/8 Batty Ct Chopra b Patel 4
Foakes 23*
Meaker 0*
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252/9 70.4
Foakes Run Out 23
Meaker 0*
Footitt in
Looks like a few overs for Bears to negotiate.
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273 all out 74 overs
Footitt St Ambrose b Patel 18
Meaker 3*
5 fer for Patel
Bowling figures
Barker 18 5 56 2
Clarke 16 3 55 1
Patel 17 2 62 5
Rankin 17 2 58 1
Trott 2 0 5 0
Poysden 4 0 22 0
Bears will have 6 overs to face i think
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Close 12/0 6 overs
Chopra 7
Umeed 3
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Wish i could say i was surprised at the thrashing suffered last night by Northants but sadly i half expected it.Yet again the likes of Porterfield,Evans,Clarke and Patel failed with the bat when called upon .Then we have OHD going for 11 in what turned just about to be his only over The drop of Cobb by Patel just about summed the night up .How we continue to leave out Chopra,Trott,Rankin,and Barker for the likes of Porterfield,Evans and OHD continues to baffle me
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It baffles me as well on the selections by Brown. I really think Ateeq should be in the four-day team, he's usually solid and he's a good spin option - surely as an all-rounder he should be ahead of Poysden as we already have Patel?
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It baffles me as well on the selections by Brown. I really think Ateeq should be in the four-day team, he's usually solid and he's a good spin option - surely as an all-rounder he should be ahead of Poysden as we already have Patel?
I think it's down to the fact that Warwickshire like many other counties like to have a 'leggie' option and Poysden is that option. He is still learning his trade and will only play when conditions
suit. Such as this particular game where he did only bowl 4 overs in the innings, i would imagine he will bowl more in the 2nd innings. The spin option was used inside the first 10 overs yesterday.
This morning steady start:
35/0 12.4 overs
Chopra 18*
Umeed 14*
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39/1 16 overs
Umeed b Meaker 18
Chopra 18*
Bell in
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Friggin weather - off for rain
55/1 21.3
Chopra 24*
Bell 7*
Won't be for long i don't think
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Lunch
78/1 27 overs
Chopra 39*
Bell 15*
195 behind
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Other Div 1 & Pears Lunch scores
Hants 95/0 31 @ Durham
Lancs 109/1 32 @ Notts
Yorks 96/2 30 v Middx
Leic 100/1 34 @ Worc
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82/2 31
Chopra Ct Foakes b Footitt 42
Bell 15*
Trott in
191 behind
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150/2 51 overs
Bell 42*
Trott 35*
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Belly's 50
167/2 53.5
Bell 50*
Trott 44*
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182/2 56
Trott 52*
Bell 57
100 partnership as well as Trotts 50.
8th century partnership of the season for Bears
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198/3 59.4
Bell Ct Sam Curran b Batty 66
Trott 59*
Hain in
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204/4 60.5
Hain Ct Burns b Meaker 0
Trott 65*
Ambrose in.
10 minutes till tea
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Tea
Bears 215/4 64 overs
37 overs left in the day
Trott 70*
Ambrose 6*
We trail by 58
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Bears have the lead 276/4 82.4
Trott 96*
Ambrose 37*
280/4 83.1
Trott 100* 172b 10 x 4's 2nd ton of the season
Ambrose 37*
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315/5 90.4
Trott LBW Sam Curran 123
Ambrose 49*
Clarke in
Partnership of 111
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317/5 93
Ambrose 50* 99b 6 x 4's
Clarke 1*
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322/6 94.3
Ambrose Ct Ansari b S. Curran 53
Clarke 3*
Barker in
Lead 49
Close of play Div 1 scores
Hants 319/6 @ Durham
Lancs 273/9 @ Notts
Yorks 291/5 v Middx
Div2
Leic 299/7 @ Worc
6 overs left for Bears tonight
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Close at Guildford
Bears 345/6 101 overs
Clarke 16*
Barker 10*
Lead of 72. Be nice to make that 150
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Goody knock from Trotty. Sam Hain seems to be struggling this season; such a great talent - Brown should stick with him, he will pick up soon, just needs a score to gain some confidence.
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Decent day for the Bears,if we can add a another 50 runs tomorrow i think we can win this rain permitting of course .
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Decent day for the Bears,if we can add a another 50 runs tomorrow i think we can win this rain permitting of course .
Yeah, really could do with a couple on uninterrupted days now.
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Takes bears just 7 balls this morning to obtain their 4th batting point, 350/6 102.1
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359/7 104.2
Clarke Ct Foakes b S. Curran 17
Barker 23*
Patel in
Lead of 86
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100 lead...very useful
373/7 106 overs
Barker 32
Patel 5
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Bears fail by 4 runs to get max batting points, required 5 off 3 balls but only got 1. So after 110 overs:
396/7 110
Barker 47*
Patel 12*
Lead 123
Bonus points in match Bears 7, Surrey 4
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Barker 52* 58 balls 9 x 4's 4th 50 of season converting one to a 100
401/7 111.1
Barker 52*
Patel 12
4th 50 of innings following Trott 123, Bell 66, Ambrose 53
Lead 130
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425/7 114 overs
Barker 60*
Patel 26*
Lead very good 152
3rd time this season that bears have posted 400+ score
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435/8 116.1
Patel Ct Burns b Footitt 31
Barker 65*
Poysden in
Lead 162
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440/9 117
Lead 167
Barker Ct Harinath b Footitt 65
Poysden 1*
Rankin in
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Bears 449 all out 118.5
Rankin Ct Batty b Footitt 3
Poysden 78
Lead 176
Surrey 30 minutes to face prior to lunch.
Footitt 4/57
Sam Curran 3/58
Meaker 2/86
Batty 1/92
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Whilst break other Div1 & Pears scores:
Hants 338/7 117.2 @ Durham
Lancs 276 Notts 86/0 18.1
Yorks 343/8 115.2 v Middx
Leics 365/8 117.5 @ Worc
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Surrey 5/1 4.1
Harinath Ct Ambrose b Barker 0
Burns 5*
Ansari in
Defecit 171
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Lunch 9 overs
Surrey 12/1
Burns 9*
Ansara 3*
164 behind
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These 2 settling in quite well
64/1 28.1
Burns 38
Ansari 26
Trail by 112
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I would like to win. Tell Surrey to stop being beastly and lose their wickets please.
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Yeah, its getting boring now.
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Can't help with wkts i'm afraid.
Tea 105/1 44 overs
Burns 66*
Ansari 37*
100 partnership also
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Wicket!
107/2
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107/2 45.3
Burns b Patel 68
Ansari 37*
Finch 0*
69 behind
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3 Down, possibly game on.
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Four down, Clarke's got Finch.
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A quick flurry
112/3 47.2
Ansari Ct Hain b Patel 40
122/4 52.2
Finch Ct Ambrose b Clarke 7
122/4 54..now
Davies 4*
Sam Curran 0*
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122/5 54.3
Sam Curran Ct Ambrose b Clarke 0
Foakes in to join Davies
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Typical game gets more than interesting and i have to go out!!!
Fcuk!!!
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Just getting shoes on
123/6 55.4
Foakes LBW Patel 1
T Curran in now
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6 down, could win it tonight!
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It was nice of them to listen to my request. Cheers Surrey.
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170 for 8, still six behind.
COYB!
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Bizarrely, Gloucestershire are actually going well in Division 2 this year.
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What? Who?
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Surrey nine down, but one run ahead so we have to bat again. Not sure if there is time this evening. If it rains all day tomorrow I will be beyond seething!
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177 all out... we need two to win!
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I think we can manage them lol
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Scores level. One to go!
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YOOOOOUUUUUUU
BEEEEEEAAAAAARRRRSSSS!!!
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(We won)
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23 points takes us to the top of the division, for a while at least.
10 wickets in the match for Jeetan Patel.
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Well done the Bears, it is good to beat anyone but it always feels that little bit sweeter to beat Surrey and Middlesex .Special credit to Patel for taking 10 wickets in the match
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Excellent Work Warwick
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Shame the Bears didn't take full batting points because all those rain affected draws may be the difference between winning the Championship and finishing 3rd or fourth in September.
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I give all credit to ADVillafan. Got rid of PWG and the wickets started to tumble.
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EspnCricinfo (http://www.espncricinfo.com/county-cricket-2016/content/story/1032247.html)
Cunning Patel spins Surrey to ten-wicket defeat
Tim Wigmore at Guildford
Warwickshire 449 (Trott 123, Bell 66, Barker 65, Ambrose 53, Footitt 4-57) and 5 for 0 beat Surrey 273 (Finch 110, Patel 5-62) and 177 (Burns 68, Patel 5-61) by 10 wickets
Warwickshire have won two Championship crowns this century. Each has been defined less by thrilling cricket than a remorseless, unyielding spirit: in 2012 the side drew nine of their 16 games but lost just one; in 2004 Warwickshire were undefeated, but won only five of their 16 matches.
This is a side that shares the characteristics of those victorious teams. Brimming with depth in batting and bowling, the Warwickshire vintage of 2016 has a hard, attritional edge. Perhaps that derives from their experience: eight members of the team to thrash Surrey inside three days are aged 29 or over, including five who are 33 or above.
All five of those played crucial roles in this match. Jonathan Trott made a high-class century, putting on century stands with both Ian Bell and Tim Ambrose. Returning to the ground on which he learned the game, Rikki Clarke ensured a happy homecoming with a high-class spell with the old ball. Deliveries that jagged late snared Aaron Finch and Sam Curran in consecutive overs, and there was a fine slip catch, too, to claim Tom Curran.
But best of all was Jeetan Patel. In an age that fetishes mystery offspin, Patel is a flagbearer for the best of the orthodox art. He has no need for a doosra while bowling with such subtlety and immaculate control, varying his pace, trajectory and delivery point on the crease. His arm-balls recognise that the most dangerous delivery can sometimes be that which does not turn at all. Each of his 46 overs in the game was a distillation of the nous acquired over 16 years and 219 first-class matches.
"It's such a tight league that you have to call on experience to win games. That experience also has to help the youngsters coming through and it is - it's an exciting time for Warwickshire," Patel said, suggesting that the new toss regulations might have helped a side with Warwickshire's character. "It has made it more attritional and scrappy. Teams are playing on flatter wickets which means you've got to work harder and do the right things at the right time."
There is a sense that this year represents the generation of 2012's last viable chance of a repeat. Warwickshire this year are borrowing much from the 2012 template: six of their nine games to date have been draws.
That this game ended with such alacrity could be explained by the contrast between Surrey's spin twins, normally so admirable, and Patel. Zafar Ansari and Gareth Batty ended the match with combined figures of 1 for 135 from 32 overs; Patel ended with 10 for 123, following his first innings 5 for 62 with 5 for 61 in the second innings.
In the process of this game his haul of first-class wickets for Warwickshire cleared that for Wellington: a small symbol of how, in a county that has been blessed with some of the most mesmerising overseas players in the game, Patel has established himself as an undemonstrative recruit of enduring worth. He now has 270 first-class wickets for Warwickshire at 26.73 apiece, to go with 2101 runs at 27.28, a record that marks him out as the premier overseas player around.
"After spending seven years here, I'm probably an adopted Brummie," he reflected. "I get opportunities to play here and keep playing the game I love. I want to keep winning games for Warwickshire, I want to my titles. It's up to me as the overseas player to show that professionalism and today was my day."
He has plenty of them. Warwickshire have a bowling attack whose variety and depth is only challenged by Yorkshire, as was exemplified here. The left-armer Keith Barker bowled an outstanding, luckless spell with the old ball before tea; Clarke jagged the ball around with pace and bounce; and the beanpole Boyd Rankin finished Surrey off, leaving Josh Poysden's legspin virtually unused. Chris Wright, Oliver Hannon-Dalby, Mark Adair and, England commitments withstanding, Chris Woakes are all ready to augment the attack, but, even at 36, Patel's worth stands out above all others.
"I want to play for as long as I can," he said. "You're a long time retired. Yes, I'm a little bit older but I still feel I've got a lot to give - whether that's in a bowling capacity or a coaching capacity or whatever it is."
On this evidence, Patel will be bowling for Warwickshire for a fair while after his current contract expires, at the end of this summer. "This is handy to go into negotiations with something like this behind my back - we'll work something out I would have thought."
Surrey's batsmen could not work Patel out. Until Steven Davies made a sprightly 44, immune to the crumbling edifice of Surrey's batting order, only Zafar Ansari and Rory Burns offered any resistance worthy of the name.
After the early loss of Arun Harinath, the two combined for an alliance of 102 runs in 41.2 overs, including the entire afternoon session, as a rather somnolent air engulfed Guildford on a gloomy day: attritional cricket and an unseasonal wind were far from the idyllic image of festival cricket.
Then Patel intervened. Rather aptly, Burns was dismissed not by an ill-judged shot but by the lack of one: he was snared playing on as he tried to withdraw his bat. Two overs later, Ansari was surprised by a delivery with extra bounce, and edged to short leg. Then, "the right-handers came in, we threw the ball into the footmarks, and boom," as Patel put it.
Ben Foakes was lbw to an arm ball; Tom Curran edged obligingly to slip; and Stuart Meaker played down the wrong line. And, just like that, Surrey had lost nine wickets in the final session. Even allowing for Patel's chicanery and overcast conditions exploited by a menacing spell from Clarke, it amounted a deeply underwhelming effort.
"The batting is faulty," Alec Stewart, Surrey's director of cricket, said. "I thought we bowled well, our bowling is moving in the right direction, but our batting isn't. That is an issue. If you are only making scores of 270, and not batting four sessions, you are making it very hard for the bowlers. There are players with talent, but they are not battle-hardened cricketers. They will get there, but we need to see some results soon."
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Jeets is brilliant! Hopefully another trophy this season!
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I give all credit to ADVillafan. Got rid of PWG and the wickets started to tumble.
I think you are being a tad unkind Surrey did lose 5/16 before i had to go out.
Brilliant result.....Jeets just keeps pulling up trees for us.
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Shame the Bears didn't take full batting points because all those rain affected draws may be the difference between winning the Championship and finishing 3rd or fourth in September.
A couple of them would have almost certainly been wins as well.
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Because Bears denied me my cricketing fix by winning in 3 days decided to watch live feed from Trent Bridge.
Notts going well 400/7 110 overs, managed the required 8 off 110th over for maximum points.
Lead Lancs by a useful 124,may they go on and win this game,
Broad making some lusty blows 25 and Hutton 9
405/7
At least at 14:00 can watch ladies T20 prior to England T20 v Sri Lanka
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I wish I could watch as much cricket as you.
I think you might be my hero.
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I wish I could watch as much cricket as you.
I think you might be my hero.
Dad watches tonnes of cricket now, I will tell him that he is your hero.
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I wish I could watch as much cricket as you.
I think you might be my hero.
I wish Sky would put some live county cricket on. The current schedule is:
sky sports 1: premier league years 1995/96
sky sports 2: Live Women's T20 Eng-Pak
sky sports 3: Grand Final Gold 2007
sky sports 4: World Golf Championship
sky sports 5: sky sports years-1993
So of 5 sports channels only 1 is live and 1 other is showing content from this year. 2 are showing content that's over 20 years old. I don't have a problem with some old content but sky sports is a joke in the week.
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I wish I could watch as much cricket as you.
I think you might be my hero.
Life sometimes is a bitch ...lol
Just missed Broad being bowled for 46 by Parkinson with Notts on 454/8 now. Turned away to watch a Wingfield boundary
followed by Tammy Beaumont falling LBW
England 19/1 3 overs
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Notts all out 474 great lead of 198.
Hopefully Broad and Tahir get stuck into Lancs for the rest of the afternoon.
England girls 68/3 9.2 overs
Other Div 1 scores
Hants 472 Durham 234/3 65.3
Yorks 406 Middx 263/4 90.3
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I wish Sky would put some live county cricket on. The current schedule is:
sky sports 1: premier league years 1995/96
sky sports 2: Live Women's T20 Eng-Pak
sky sports 3: Grand Final Gold 2007
sky sports 4: World Golf Championship
sky sports 5: sky sports years-1993
So of 5 sports channels only 1 is live and 1 other is showing content from this year. 2 are showing content that's over 20 years old. I don't have a problem with some old content but sky sports is a joke in the week.
Eurosport will have some live pro-celebrity yachting or a bit of 4x4 bobsleigh relay racing surely?
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I noticed Dave had some cricket or other from the West Indies on yesterday.
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I noticed Dave had some cricket or other from the West Indies on yesterday.
It's this (http://www.cplt20.com/), the Caribbean T20 competition.
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I noticed Dave had some cricket or other from the West Indies on yesterday.
It's this (http://www.cplt20.com/), the Caribbean T20 competition.
Not proper cricket then.
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Been confirmed today the news that i think we already knew, that the club have said today that former skipper Varun Chopra is to
leave Edgbaston at the end of the season when his current contract expires.
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So the rumours were true then:
http://www.espncricinfo.com/county-cricket-2016/content/story/1032451.html
It seemed to me that he lost the dressing room at the end of last season. Bell's exile from the test side opened the door for a new captain and so I think it's a mistake to let Chopra leave, if a player wants out then why stand in their way? No doubt there's a lot of what went on we know nothing about.
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Been confirmed today the news that i think we already knew, that the club have said today that former skipper Varun Chopra is to
leave Edgbaston at the end of the season when his current contract expires.
You beat me to it PGW!
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Been confirmed today the news that i think we already knew, that the club have said today that former skipper Varun Chopra is to
leave Edgbaston at the end of the season when his current contract expires.
You beat me to it PGW!
It was rumoured that he was meeting up with Essex officials over the course of last 3 days whilst down at Guildford plus with
Notts when they were recently at Edgbaston. I wish him well wherever he ends up.
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Unfortunately Lancs making an excellent fist of saving the game at Trent Bridge currently on:
103/ 0 95 behind
Yorks 406 Middx 436/6 Stevie Eskinazi 157....a young SA born22 yr Australian keeper making his way in English cricket. A cert for England team then!!
Hants 472/9 Durham 394/9 107.3
Leic 407 & 130/2 Worc 349
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Lancs finally lose a wkt 151/1 still 47 behind...a draw methinks
Others
Hants 472 & 34/1 Durham 421
Yorks 406 & 8/0 Middx 577
Both of the above also likely to be draws so Bears have made considerable ground with their win.
Leic 407 & 248/2 Worc 349
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I think Yorkshire will lose, the battting line up is considerable weaker for this match and they've already lost two wickets including that of Williamson who, if anything, has weakened us since he joined.
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65/4, top order out, 106 runs behind. We're doomed.
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Could be interesting at Trent Bridge, i haven't watched any of it so far as concentrating on Tennis
Lancs now 261/6 a lead of only 63. Need to bag last 4 very quickly.
As Chris said Yorks struggling now 140/6....31 behind still.
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33 overs left at Trent Bridge
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8 down now, soon be all over!
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Yorks now 147/8 still 24 behind
Lancs 267/6 lead of 69
So assuming a Middx win and a draw at Trent Bridge Middx will go top 1 point ahead of Bears and Lancs who will be level
on 117 points
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9 down at Scarborough 15 behind
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Middx by an innings and 4 runs. Isn't it Yorkshires first defeat in nearly 2 years
Table assuming draw at Trent Bridge
Middx 9 118
Bears 9 117
Lancs 9 117
Durham 8 107
Yorks 8 103
Somer 8 93
Notts 9 93
Surrey 9 76
Hants 8 70
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Suddenly looking quite promising. The title race looks like going to the wire this year.
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Yorkshire 3 defeats in 3 years every one of them to Middlesex, first at home.
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That's a proper bogey side. Still fancy Yorkshire to win it, but who knows? If Bell and Trott play to their potential for the rest of the season we could be a serious threat.
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Middx by an innings and 4 runs. Isn't it Yorkshires first defeat in nearly 2 years
Table assuming draw at Trent Bridge
Middx 9 118
Bears 9 117
Lancs 9 117
Durham 8 107
Yorks 8 103
Somer 8 93
Notts 9 93
Surrey 9 76
Hants 8 70
Lost to Modflesex after we'd won the title last season, our first defeat since losing to Midflesex the previous season! Pointless T20 cost us badly this week.
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Shook hands at Trent Bridge with Lancs 106 in front.
Imran Tahir bowled 44 overs in the innings for 89
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Worcester require 75 off 13 overs with 4 wkts in hand with Clarke 97 and Leach 29
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Middx by an innings and 4 runs. Isn't it Yorkshires first defeat in nearly 2 years
Table assuming draw at Trent Bridge
Middx 9 118
Bears 9 117
Lancs 9 117
Durham 8 107
Yorks 8 103
Somer 8 93
Notts 9 93
Surrey 9 76
Hants 8 70
Lost to Modflesex after we'd won the title last season, our first defeat since losing to Midflesex the previous season! Pointless T20 cost us badly this week.
It's not pointless just because you don't like it! Lots of people, myself included, enjoy all three formats.
Don't get me wrong, I'd rather win the Championship once than win three Twenty20 Cups in a row, but I still enjoy watching us in that competition.
Dave C, and any other H&Vers, me and our kid are considering the Bears Pears 50 over game on 24th July, if the weather is decent, if you fancy joining us.
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An error in my table above ...Notts have played 10
In terms of conversation above i'm with CD i'm not the greatest fan of T20 but it's with us to stay so i fully support it
and whilst Bears continue to include in the price of membership i will avidly continue to watch along with 50 over and
championship cricket.
I unfortunately won't be around for Pears game as in France for friendly.
At New Rd Pears require 56 more in 9.4 overs. Clarke 110*
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Gloucestershire have Surrey in the T20 tonight.
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Leach has his 50 now. Century partnership in 15.3 overs
344/6 69.4
30 balls to get 22
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Gloucestershire have Surrey in the T20 tonight.
I'll watch and hour or so of that prior to Wales game then put on PC when Murray wins!!!
Clarke run out at New Rd...error by Leach 345/7 123 for Clarke 21 off 28
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Worcester win by 3 wickets
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Middlesex are now top after beating Yorkshire. Lancashire are second and The Bears third. One point separates the top three and 15 points separate the top five. It's very tight up there.
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Middx by an innings and 4 runs. Isn't it Yorkshires first defeat in nearly 2 years
Table assuming draw at Trent Bridge
Middx 9 118
Bears 9 117
Lancs 9 117
Durham 8 107
Yorks 8 103
Somer 8 93
Notts 9 93
Surrey 9 76
Hants 8 70
Lost to Modflesex after we'd won the title last season, our first defeat since losing to Midflesex the previous season! Pointless T20 cost us badly this week.
It's not pointless just because you don't like it! Lots of people, myself included, enjoy all three formats.
Don't get me wrong, I'd rather win the Championship once than win three Twenty20 Cups in a row, but I still enjoy watching us in that competition.
Dave C, and any other H&Vers, me and our kid are considering the Bears Pears 50 over game on 24th July, if the weather is decent, if you fancy joining us.
I think T20 is great because it's made people change the way they play, pretty much every 'invention' in batting and bowling in the last 10 years has come from T20. Look at Root a sa perfect example, 10 years ago he'd have been a solid player who ticked along at 50-60% strike rate playing a classy cover drive, fantastic off his legs and with a decent hook for the high ball. T20 being a thing when he was developing means that he has all of those things but he's also willing and able to slog to cow corner, he'll run down the wicket and smack a spinner back over his head, he has a fantastic reverse sweep and he brings all of those into play in the test arena which makes it much harder to set fields and means he normally scores at 80-90% instead. A lot of those shots existed before but they were rarely used T20 has made them a standard part of the 'kit' and yes it does mean that batsmen take more risks but it also makes the game more alive.
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I bet end of the summer nobody will remember what happened in the one off game of T20 that Sri Lanka and England played. Was it just so Wales could host a match?
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i doubt mills and dawson will agree with you.
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I bet end of the summer nobody will remember what happened in the one off game of T20 that Sri Lanka and England played. Was it just so Wales could host a match?
Wasnt it in Southampton???
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I bet end of the summer nobody will remember what happened in the one off game of T20 that Sri Lanka and England played. Was it just so Wales could host a match?
Wasnt it in Southampton???
Isn't that in Wales?
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Must be. I've looked on a map and it's quite near Newport.
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We pissed it against Surrey.
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Dave C, and any other H&Vers, me and our kid are considering the Bears Pears 50 over game on 24th July, if the weather is decent, if you fancy joining us.
Working I'm afraid.
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Gary Ballance named in the England squad for the first Test which I'm quite surprised about. Beginning to think they're doing it on purpose to derail Yorkshire's title challenge.
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Gary Ballance named in the England squad for the first Test which I'm quite surprised about. Beginning to think they're doing it on purpose to derail Yorkshire's title challenge.
I'm gonna say this with fingers crossed....''What challenge is that then?''
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Strange call bringing Balance back in, think it's only 1 century he's got for Yorkshire all season? Can see it backfiring as the Pakistan bowling attack will really work him over.
EDIT: Just checked and he averages only 33 this season. To put that average in comparison with other England hopefuls/those that have recently played - Hildreth (72), Sam Robson (69), Borthwick (58), Bell (48).
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Gary Ballance named in the England squad for the first Test which I'm quite surprised about. Beginning to think they're doing it on purpose to derail Yorkshire's title challenge.
I'm gonna say this with fingers crossed....''What challenge is that then?''
Not the hit and run nonsense, that's for certain!
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Got your mob in that on Friday night.....weather permitting....at Headingley.....
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Got your mob in that on Friday night.....weather permitting....at Headingley.....
The only thing I like about it is that Yorkshire use the tournament to give young lads on the fringes a game. They are mostly bowlers so I guess it's character building, bowling four overs for plenty! Gillespie gets a lot of unjustified stick on Twitter because he doesn't prioritise the competition, I'm sure he wants to win every match but I don't have a problem with anything he's doing. Yorkshire and England certainly benefit from what he's doing.
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Got your mob in that on Friday night.....weather permitting....at Headingley.....
The only thing I like about it is that Yorkshire use the tournament to give young lads on the fringes a game. They are mostly bowlers so I guess it's character building, bowling four overs for plenty! Gillespie gets a lot of unjustified stick on Twitter because he doesn't prioritise the competition, I'm sure he wants to win every match but I don't have a problem with anything he's doing. Yorkshire and England certainly benefit from what he's doing.
I think most counties do it, currently bears blooding Mark Adair a young Northern Irish lad, given Josh Poysden a few games who gets in the county side on occasion now when conditions suit. Reccordo Gordon another
who does appear to be struggling, takes wkts but goes for plenty
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Got your mob in that on Friday night.....weather permitting....at Headingley.....
The only thing I like about it is that Yorkshire use the tournament to give young lads on the fringes a game. They are mostly bowlers so I guess it's character building, bowling four overs for plenty! Gillespie gets a lot of unjustified stick on Twitter because he doesn't prioritise the competition, I'm sure he wants to win every match but I don't have a problem with anything he's doing. Yorkshire and England certainly benefit from what he's doing.
I think most counties do it, currently bears blooding Mark Adair a young Northern Irish lad, given Josh Poysden a few games who gets in the county side on occasion now when conditions suit. Reccordo Gordon another
who does appear to be struggling, takes wkts but goes for plenty
That's why I get a bit frustrated when people complain about Gordon, etc being given games in the T20. You have to give young players game time somewhere and Gordon does take wickets so he's worth keeping involved to see if he can develop that extra bit of control. I don't watch a huge amount of county championship games (because they're not televised usually 3 days are in the week whilst I'm working (from home where I could have it on the TV in the background) but I watch a fair amount of the shorter format stuff and I think there's a bit of a case of fans not giving younger players much of a chance at times.
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I did watch the T20 Roses clash as it was on the TV, I quite enjoyed seeing our side with some young lads beating Lancashire's strongest one day team. It wasn't a high scoring game and went down to the final over so the batsmen never got on top which possibly made it a bit more enjoyable. Who am I kidding, beating Lancashire made it enjoyable!
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Odd thing in the Worcester game. Joe Clarke was given out LBW on 31, walked off, crossing the boundary rope, only to be called back because the square leg umpire heard a bit of bat on it. WTF? Leicester not happy, Clarke went on to make 123 and Worcs won the game.
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Odd thing in the Worcester game. Joe Clarke was given out LBW on 31, walked off, crossing the boundary rope, only to be called back because the square leg umpire heard a bit of bat on it. WTF? Leicester not happy, Clarke went on to make 123 and Worcs won the game.
You may see Mark Cosgrove getting fined/suspended as he lets say voiced his concerns with the umpires overturning the decision.
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Got your mob in that on Friday night.....weather permitting....at Headingley.....
The only thing I like about it is that Yorkshire use the tournament to give young lads on the fringes a game. They are mostly bowlers so I guess it's character building, bowling four overs for plenty! Gillespie gets a lot of unjustified stick on Twitter because he doesn't prioritise the competition, I'm sure he wants to win every match but I don't have a problem with anything he's doing. Yorkshire and England certainly benefit from what he's doing.
The Yorkshire leadership made a decision several years ago that they would concentrate on Championship cricket and have stuck to their guns with spectacular results. I don't follow the politics of what is happening up there apart from talking to their supporters when we play them in the championship but I would not be surprised if they have come under pressure to make more of a effort in the T20 prior to launching a Leeds/Sheffield franchise.
As far as bowlers are concerned, I fail to see the benefit of a young seam bowler using virtually no run up bowling slow long hops with no slip cordon. The irony that Arnold Sidebottom, one of the best swing bowlers I have ever seen almost single-handedly propelled the Bears into the finals two years ago by getting smashed for a record number of sixes in his last over is not lost on me.
Small wonder that we protect our only genuine swing bowler from this competition even though we could probably include him as a batsman.
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Must have had a few injuries if Arnie was having a bowl!
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Who on earth is Arnold Sidebottom? ;D
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Dead now. Had an unfathomly large head.
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Who on earth is Arnold Sidebottom? ;D
One of the old school cricketers who also played football.
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Dead now. Had an unfathomly large head.
He most certainly isn't dead...alive and well, 62 and earning a living on after dinner circuit.
He played 20 times for Man Utd which included 2 games against us. Moved on to Huddersfield in 75 then Halifax.
Got one test cap v Aussies at Trent Bridge (1985), father of Ryan Sidebotton who i think Ad was referring to when he quoted Arnie!!!
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Oh, grandad...
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Oh, grandad...
lol
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Bears just announced that Jonathan Trott will become Vice-Captain for rest of County championship and Will Porterfield will
become Vice for all forms of one day cricket.
Don't really see why the need to make that announcement...was Chopra vice prior to announcement of him leaving. I didn't think he was as Woakes captained at Trent Bridge.
Or is it due to fact that we won't see much more of Woakes for remainder of season!!
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Yorkshire won toss and batted,currently:
23/1 4 overs
Wkt to fall:
Lyth Ct Javid b OHD 12 FOW 13/1
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34/2 5 overs
Willey Ct Porterfield b OHD 10
Williamson in to join Lees
Team: Hain, Bell, Porterfield, Wade, Evans, Clarke, Javid, Patel, Gordon, Poysden, OHD
End of powerplay
39/2 6overs
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Lancs scored 98/0 in powerplay, Josh Buttler just out 57 22 balls
102/1 6.4 overs
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Yorks 53/3 7.5
Lees b Poysden 23
Williamson 4*
Ballance in
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Half way 10 overs
Yorks 64/3
Ballance 5*
Williamson 10*
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15 overs
108/3
Patel 0/22 off 4
Williamson 38*
Ballance 17*
rr 7.2
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131/4 17.4
Ballance b Clarke 33
Williamson 43*
Bresnan in and strikes 6 first ball
137/4 17.5
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147/5 19.1
Bresnan Ct Porterfield b Gordon 10
Williamson 48*
Plunkett in
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147/6 19.3
Williamson Run Out 48
Plunkett 0*
Leaning in 6 1st ball
153/6 19.4
156/6 20 overs
Gordon 4 1/27
OHD 4 2/33
Poysden 3 0/26
Javid 1 0/11
Clarke 4 1/30
Patel 4 0/22
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Come on Warwick. Should be able to win this in the 8th inning.
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Other North Division scores
Worc 198 a.o 19.4 Lancs 200/3 18.1 Won by 7 wkts
Derby 158 a.0 19.5 Leic 49/0 5.4
Northants 122 a.o 18.2 Notts 49/2 7.4
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1/1 .1
Hain LBW Willey 0
Bell 0*
Porterfield in
It was a wide first ball
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End of powerplay Yorkshire were 39/2
Bears after 6 overs are 48/1 but 6th over by Rafiq only went for 1
Bell 27*
Porterfield 19*
Rashid on now so spin at both ends
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52/2 6.5
Bell St Hodd B Rashid 30 (23)
Porterfield 21*
Wade in
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60/3 8.5
Wade Ct Lees b Rashid 6
Porterfield 23
Spinners gonna win game for Yorks fortunately their 3rd spinner, Williamson off injured
61/3 9 overs
Bringing Lyth on to continue the spin torture.
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10 overs 65/3
Last 5 overs only got 19 runs
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15 gone 116/3
Porterfield 39*
Evans 35*
41 off 30 required
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120/4 15.5
Evans Ct sub b Rafiq 37
Porterfield 41*
Clarke in
121/4 16
36 off 24 9 p/over
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30 off 18
127/4 17
Bresnan 2 of last 3 only gone for 10 off previous 2
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141/5 18
Porterfield Ct Hodd b Bresnan 48
Clarke 8*
Javid in
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145/6 18.4
Clarke run out 9
Ateeq 3*
Patel in
12 to win 8 balls
11/7
146/7 19 overs
Patel Ct Leaning b Willey 0
Gordon in and on strike start of last over.
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Gordon Ct & B Bresnan 0
146/8 19.1
11 off 5
They did cross so Ateeq on strike. Poysden joins him
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Poysden run out 0
147/9
10 off 4 looking desperate now
Bears going right back into the pack...took a single barmy leaving OHD on strike
149/9 19.4
Ateeq needs two 4's off last 2 balls. A wide bowled so 152/9 1 ball left 4 tie 6 win
Lyth pulls it back off boundary run 2 and a run out.
Yorks win by 2 runs.
Threw that away.
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Fucked that up. Mind you, Yorkshire sound a Hell of a side. Virtually every player I heard mentioned was an England player.
I thought that cad Jameson said they played their kids in this?
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Fucked that up. Mind you, Yorkshire sound a Hell of a side. Virtually every player I heard mentioned was an England player.
I thought that cad Jameson said they played their kids in this?
You don't listen to him do you!!!
Table now
Northants 10 14
Bears 9 11
Notts 9 11
Worc 11 10
Lancs 10 9
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For me, Trott and Barker need to play. Brown sees it differently.
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Trott no, Barker yes.
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I thought that cad Jameson said they played their kids in this?
Just seen the team they put out, I was surprised at how strong it was, if they'd played it throughout the competition I guess they wouldn't be second from bottom. Just seen the incredible piece of fielding by Lyth that prevented a boundary off the final delivery.
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Still trying to come to terms with how the Bears managed to lose nast night against the Tykes .Takes some doing to lose your last 6 wickets for just 13 runs .Some terrible decision making by some of our players.What on earth Porterfield was thinking playing that shot only he knows .Leaving OHD on strike during the run out another strange piece of decision making .As for Patel,someone should remind him to take a bat with him .I honestly can not remember him scoring in the last half dozen or so innings .I have just heard the Pears thrashed again at Trent Bridge so next Fridays match is going to be interesting
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Horrendous today from the Bears.
Yet another "flat" wicket i.e. dead as dodo and 2 spinners picked. Who would have thought Boyd Rankin would get injured early on, in this case after one over? Quite a few of us, to be honest.
The wicket is as far at is it legal to go towards the Rea Bank side, so I suspect some massive scores will ensue and the game will be drawn.
The attendance was well under a thousand, which for a first day would be firing alarm signals in many organizations, but we have weddings, business conferences and something called Ultra White Collar Boxing, not to mention the Rounders Final Day.
Hampshire 304/4 (96.0 ov)
Warwickshire
Hampshire won the toss and elected to bat
Hampshire RR 3.16
Last 10 ovs 40/1 RR 4.00
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No surprise to see we struggled against this lot.They really are our bogy side are Hants. We never seem to play well against them and anything that can go wrong, it seems will. It sounds as if Rankin will play no further part in the game ,so even at this early stage i would suggest we are fighting to save the match let alone win it
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Wheater has his ton now
320/4.
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Patel now bowling his 40th over! Rankin has banjanxed the back so we have 2 seamers plus Trott.
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Seems like it is going to be a long long day for decimated toothless attack
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Much the same as yesterday, night watchman Crane not having any difficulties and Wheater moved onto his highest ever Div 1 score:
347/4 107 overs
Wheater 123
Crane 8
Jeetan Patel into his 41st over
Looks like we are gonna have settle for just 1 bowling point and Hants 4 batting points....they now have 4th point 352/4 107.5
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It seems like Bell has no confidence in Poysden at all ,bowling Trott instead
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I think Poysdens time will come later in the game. This wicket won't do him any favours whatsoever currently. He bowled OK yesterday for his 8 overs and forced an
error out of Allsop to claim his wicket.
I haven't gone down today because of the state of the wicket and it's quite possible/likely that this match will be similar to that of the Sussex game last season both
teams scoring 600+. The wicket they are playing on is next to the Sussex wkt from last year...
I got very bored yesterday and disappeared into Wyatt bar and watched Andy Murray and had more than i should of Stowford Press.
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Horrendous today from the Bears.
Yet another "flat" wicket i.e. dead as dodo and 2 spinners picked. Who would have thought Boyd Rankin would get injured early on, in this case after one over? Quite a few of us, to be honest.
The wicket is as far at is it legal to go towards the Rea Bank side, so I suspect some massive scores will ensue and the game will be drawn.
The attendance was well under a thousand, which for a first day would be firing alarm signals in many organizations, but we have weddings, business conferences and something called Ultra White Collar Boxing, not to mention the Rounders Final Day.
Hampshire 304/4 (96.0 ov)
Warwickshire
Hampshire won the toss and elected to bat
Hampshire RR 3.16
Last 10 ovs 40/1 RR 4.00
It's not just you, but I've seen a few people on this thread trying to devalue the 2020 format by calling it 'rounders', I think it's a bit unfair to be honest.
It's the format that attracts the biggest gates of the season and therefore the most revenue for the club. In the 4-day format around 80-90% of matches this season have been drawn, so that's quite boring and dull to go down and spend a day at most of the time, and not particularly enticing to spend your money on for non-members.
Personally my favourite format is the 50 overs, just the right length for that mixture of excitement and skill.
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The current Bears Championship match is certainly a good advert for limited-overs cricket.
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We have a wicket
378/5
Crane B Trott 22
score now moved onto:
393/5 118.5
Wheater 143*
Ervine 8*
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Other Div 1 & Pears scores:
Somerset 236 Middx 171/6
Surrey 95/2 v Yorks Raining
Worc 277 @ Northants 140/9
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As i feared hard going for the Bears,just one wicket all day and that was the night watchman Crane 452 for 5 as i speak
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Dougie Brown said yesterday, we haven't won a single uncontested toss this year. Considering Varon only won 5 last lear. That's bad luck or what
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2 wickets in 3 balls for the Bears, amazing how one wicket always seems to follow straight after a wicket after a long stand
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Make that 5 wickets for 9 runs . 4 wickets for Poysden Strange game this cricket
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Maybe he should've been bowling earlier?
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Bears 11 for 2 off 4.5 overs on a wicket i have been hearing for the last two days from that genuis Richard Wilford has nothing in it for the bowlers .382 the follow on target seems a long way off right now
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Bears 12 for 2. Great fucking start. Hopefully it'll rain.
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Been half hoping for rain all day and apart from a brief shower it has been fine
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Poor display against the bottom club. What's happened to our batting and the bowling is average.
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50 for Trott. 110/3.
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Hard day in store batting wise for the Bears .On a pitch that is supposed to be offering little if anything for the bowlers ,three of our batsmen have been clean bowled
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Hard day in store batting wise for the Bears .On a pitch that is supposed to be offering little if anything for the bowlers ,three of our batsmen have been clean bowled
It looks like the weather will help the Bears save this game. I can't see much play today before mid-afternoon.
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Considering his class, Bell isn't doing quite as well as I'd hoped he would this season. Trott has been a godsend.
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Play called off for the day at Edgbaston. No play at all today.
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For once not to upset to see the Bears rained off.How i bet Hants had the liuck of the Pears,not for the first time this season they were able to play while every one else was affected by the rain Yes i know they had a couple of stoppages but nothing serious enough to keep them off for long
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Good knock by Sam Hain at last
57 not out. Bears 194/4. Trott out stumped.
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Lunch Bears 211/4 66 overs
Ambrose 17
Hain 64
Hains first 50 of the season. About time.
Ad C Have you gone down today...i haven't bothered game over for me just a battle for bonus points. Listening to the last hour Hain seems to be
playing very well which is obviously nice to see.
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Other Div 1 scores
Somerset 236 & 411/9 Middx 381 Somerset lead 267 with 1 wkt in hand
Surrey 267 v Yorks. This game concludes tomorrow
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We'll take the draw at Edgbaston and move on, still keeps us theoretically in the Title race, although I really don't think we've got the players to go the distance.
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Still keeps us theoretically in the Title race, although I really don't think we've got the players to go the distance.
I think quite the opposite.
With the batsmen repeatedly failing we are still right up at the top. If Bell can get firing again and Hain find his feet (today's knock will certainly help), Barker carry on his magnificent bowling and Patel do what Patel does, I'd say we are i with a really good shout.
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Well a 2nd batting point to help the cause:
252/4 86.4
Hain 84
Ambrose 36
Need to score at 7 an over to get to 350 so i suspect we will have to settle for just 1 more batting point.
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Still keeps us theoretically in the Title race, although I really don't think we've got the players to go the distance.
I think quite the opposite.
With the batsmen repeatedly failing we are still right up at the top. If Bell can get firing again and Hain find his feet (today's knock will certainly help), Barker carry on his magnificent bowling and Patel do what Patel does, I'd say we are i with a really good shout.
The thing with the batsmen is it's only really Bell who is failing (as in playing below his expected standard). The others (Chopra, Umeed, Westwood, Hain) just aren't that good, although in Hain's case that is 'yet'.
Bowling wise Barker is a very good seamer and Patel a good spinner. Other than that who will take wickets if one of those two aren't firing?
IMO we'll be 3rd at best.
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Hain brings his 100 up with a 6
298/4 96.5
Hain 101
Ambrose 58
May as well attempt to get 5th batting point 52 runs in 13 overs so rate down to 4 an over to achieve that as game now in effect over as a
spectacle.
300/4 97.3
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Tea 311/4 99 overs
Meant 4th batting point to be achieved above
Hain 111
Ambrose 61
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Still keeps us theoretically in the Title race, although I really don't think we've got the players to go the distance.
I think quite the opposite.
With the batsmen repeatedly failing we are still right up at the top. If Bell can get firing again and Hain find his feet (today's knock will certainly help), Barker carry on his magnificent bowling and Patel do what Patel does, I'd say we are i with a really good shout.
The thing with the batsmen is it's only really Bell who is failing (as in playing below his expected standard). The others (Chopra, Umeed, Westwood, Hain) just aren't that good, although in Hain's case that is 'yet'.
Bowling wise Barker is a very good seamer and Patel a good spinner. Other than that who will take wickets if one of those two aren't firing?
IMO we'll be 3rd at best.
Chopra is a good/very good Championship opener, it's too early to judge Umeed and the less said on Westwood the better. Hain is having a very poor season up to now but from i've read/heard he seems to be held in very high regard and will be a top player.
I'd also say you are being a tough harsh on Clarke on Rankin (if the latter stays fit). Both very competent seamers in this format and both with the ability to take wickets regularly.
I suppose we will have to wait and see but in my opinion this is the strongest XI we have had in a long time and I certainly won't be betting against us.
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Couple of wkts fallen going for magical 5th point currently 381/6 109.1
5 balls to get 19
4 to get 15
Ambrose Ct Dawson b Crane 104
Hain Ct Adams b Crane 135
388/6 109.4 2 sixes required.
Warwickshire have avoided follow on!!!!
1st 6 hit need 6 off the last ball
2nd ball 4
ended on 398/6
Bears declare so end of match 10 points for Bears and 10 for Hampshire
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Middx are 170/4 16 overs left to get 132 runs to win and go top. A draw will still see them top and increase their lead to 3 points.
A win would give them 23 points and lead of 14 points.
We are on 127 points with Lancs on 117 but with game in hand.
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Middx want 110 from 10 overs
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22 scored off the last over. 7 left 74 req'd
6 off 1st ball of next over
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17 off that over
57 off 6 overs req'd
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16 off first 3 balls
17 off 4 balls
21 off 5 balls
Terrible over from Craig Overton gonna be 8 ball over with a wide and 3 wides
23 off the over.
34 off 5 overs at this rate they will piss it.
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Middx lose a wkt 271/6 41.4
31 req'd off 26 balls
If they do this. and looking increasingly likely, game at Edgbaston on 30th August gonna be a must win game for bears
Hold on 271/7 42 Rayner b Leach 0
31 off 24
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292/8 44.3
Eskinazi gone
10runs 9 balls left
Great listening this
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294/8 8 runs off 6 balls
Jim Allenby to bowl final over.
Tim Groenwald took 5/90 to make a match of it
7 off 5
6 off 4
6 off 3
6 hit off 4th ball by John Simpson who finishes on 79* plus 9 victims as keeper in the match.
So go 14 points clear at the top of the division.
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Good work PGW!
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I was there for the whole game right behind the wicket and stick by my original observation that the wicket was as flat as fuck. We lost early wickets in the farce against Sussex last season when both teams batted once and scored 600 on a similar wicket close to the Rea Bank. Sam Hain made a big score then as well.
Bell sustained an injury while fielding and never looked like he was in good shape. He left the field several times, as did several players. At one point it resembled musical chairs with players going on and off and there was a rare double substitution. Once Trotty's constant squawking in the outfield abates you know the jig is up. Patel and Barker both looked like they might keel over and refuse to get back up.
Good to see Sam Hain back in the runs, his average before today was 12 and very pleased for Josh Poysden to get those wickets after being slaughtered in his first spell.
The final stages were fairly amusing as we went for the last batting bonus point. Hampshire put most of their fielders on the boundary apart from the burly trundler Irvine, who apparently only ever fields at slip and got plenty of bantz from the crowd of about twelvety. My favourite was "Get on the boundary with the rest of your mates, my grandma holding a lettuce is a better slipper than you".
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Bears did what they had to do so fair play to them there. Good to see Hain and Ambrose in the runs. Can't believe for the second time this season we missed out on a batting point by two runs .Why we left it so late to go for full batting points after it was obvious the game was safe only Brown and Bell will know.Them two points could prove to be crucial come the end of the season
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Ireland v Afghanistan ODI being played in Belfast today. Only posting on here because Will Porterfield skippering Ireland
Afghanistan 83/3 22.1
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Squad of 13 for tomorrow evenings derby T20 game at New Rd:
Ian Bell
Keith Barker....about time
Rikki Clarke
Laurie Evans
Recordo Gordon
Sam Hain
Matt Lamb.....Who!!
OHD
Ateeq Javid
Jeetan Patel
Josh Poysden
Aaron Thomason
Matthew Wade
Sell out 17:30 start
Also at Edgbaston Sunday 14:30 start v Leicester
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Afghanistan 170/7 38 overs v Ireland
No Mark Adair in team for Ireland just Mr Porterfield.
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Afghanistan 236 all out 49.1 v Ireland
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Will Porterfield out for 1
Terry out for 3
Ireland 12/2 3.4 overs
I know some will say WP carried his Bears form onto ODI stage!!!
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Ireland fought back well :
148/3 31.5
another 89 18.1 overs
Joyce 72
Kevan O'Brian 58
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Not a surprise to anyone but the Div 1 game between Surrey & Yorks was a draw 10 & 13 points respectively.
So Lancs 10 points and Yorks 11 points behind bears but both only played 9.
Ireland 179/4 39 require 58 off 11
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While obviously great news for England and Woaksy ,his 6 for 70 against Pakistan bad news for the Bears,we won't be seeing to much of our best bowler for the forseeable future
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While obviously great news for England and Woaksy ,his 6 for 70 against Pakistan bad news for the Bears,we won't be seeing to much of our best bowler for the forseeable future
At least with this England management team players do get released to play for their counties when opportunities arise, unlike some previous regimes.
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Worc win toss and field
Bears
Hain, Bell, Wade, Evans, Thomason, Clarke, Javid, Patel, Gordon, Poysden, OHD.
Although Barker in squad...not playing.
Pears:
Mitchell, Kohler-Cadmore, Clarke,Rhodes, D'Oliveira, Whitely, Cox, Leach, Henry, Barnard, Shantry
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26/1 3.5
Bell Ct Tom Koh-Cad b Henry 12
Hain 14
Wade in
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End of powerplay
51/1 6 overs
Hain 17
Wade 21 including a 5 (4 overthrows)
Lancs got 97 here in the powerplay a couple of weeks ago.
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10 overs gone moved on to:83/1
Wade 37 (20)
Hain 32 (28)
Their 50 partnership off 29 balls
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Wade 23 balls 55 3 x 6's off 3 balls from D'Oliveira
105/1 10.4 22 off over so far, 24 off 5, 25 off 6
108/1 11 overs
Wade 62 (26)
Hain 32 (28)
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129/2 12.4
Wade Ct Rhodes b Barnard 74 (32)
Hain 41 (32)
Evans in
129/2 13
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145/2 15 overs
Hain 46 (36)
Evans Ct D'Oliveira b Rhodes 8 (11)
Thomason in
145/3 15.1
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145/4 15.3
Hain Ct Shantry b Rhodes 46 (28)
Thomason 0
Clarke 0
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147/5 16
Clarke Ct Henry b Rhodes 1
3 wickets in the over. Typical Bears implosion.
Were on for 200+ no chance now
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156 for 6.
Bears playing dominoes again.
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156/6 17.2
Javeed Run Out 5
Disgraceful now panicking ridiculously. Never 2 for Javid then.
Carnage
156/7
Patel Ct Mitchell b Rhodes 0
Rhodes 4/3 in last 9 balls.
Nowhere near enough here. 5 wkts in last 16 balls
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We seem to have developed a nasty habit of being bottlers.
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162/8 18.5
Thomason Ct Whiteley b Leach 3
Poysden joins Gordon
163/8 19
Worcesters game to cock up here now
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163/9 19.1
Gordon Ct Barnard b Henry 7
OHD in now
Shameful performance
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164 all out 19.3
OHD Ct Mitchell b Henry 0
25-30 runs short on this with these exceedingly short boundaries particularly on one side.
185 bare minimum. 8 wickets for 19 runs (27 balls)....shambolic. Worse than i can remember.
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What a shocking collapse - have we got no batsmen after the first 3 or so ? Such a stupidly long tail for this form of cricket.
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Other North Division scores:
Northants 32/2 6.1 @ Durham
Leic 50/1 6.4 v Lancs
Yorks 46/1 5.4 @ Notts
Could miss out on Qtr final place if we lose tonight and Sunday. Lets be positive....hey ho!!!
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Leach & Tom Kohler-Cadmore to open for Pears
Clarke opening bowling
8.25 r/o for Pears
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Oh yee of little faith
4/1 0.3
Tom Kohler-Cadmore Ct Javid b Clarke 4
Clarke in and 4 1st ball
8/1 0.4
Poysden mis field 9/1 .5
9/1 1 over
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15/2 1.5
Joe Clarke b OHD 10
Leach 1
D'Oliveira in
15/2 2 overs
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23/3 3.1
Leach Ct Patel b Gordon 3
D'Oliveira 5
Mitchell in
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Powerplay 41/3 6 overs
D'oliveira 10 (10)
Mitchell 13 (11)
Poysden on
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62/3 9 overs but we appear to have lost Rikki Clarke to a knee injury, with 2 overs left for him to bowl
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70/3 10 overs
27 Mitchell
25 Doliveira
Having to bowl Thomason with no Clarke, 4 1st ball, 6 2nd ball...2 full tosses
80/3 10.2
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19 off Thomason over 89/3 11 overs
Now Rikki Clarke runs on....joke this is
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99/4 12.2
Doliveira Ct Poysden b Clarke 28
Mitchell 53
Whiteley in
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109/5 14.1
Mitchell Ct Hain b Clarke 61 (37)
Whiteley 2
Cox in
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112/5 15 overs
Clarke 4 22 3
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124/5 16 overs
Patel 4 0 35
9.84 req'd per over
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Whiteley motoring now 18 off Gordons over there
142/5 17
23 off 18 needed
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10 off 12 balls
Whiteley 41 off 17 balls
This just proves we were 20-25 runs short.
9 off 11
9 off 10
8 off 9
8 off 8
8 off 7
4 off 6
161/5 19
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3 off 5
All over with 4 balls left Pears win by 5 wickets.
Poor batting poor management in their reply. 3 losses on the trot.
Dougie admitting not acceptable
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Rubbish selections by Brown. Barker was apparently kitted up and ready to go, and left out for Thomason who conceded 19 off one over! Shocking collapse mirroring last week's debacle at Yokshire. Brown needs to be relieved of one day duties. Pathetic surrender, again!
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North Group latest
Northants 149/5 20 Durham 51/0 7
Leic 201/3 20 Lancs 46/2 6.1
Yorks 160/7 20 Notts 50/3 6
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Rubbish selections by Brown. Barker was apparently kitted up and ready to go, and left out for Thomason who conceded 19 off one over! Shocking collapse mirroring last week's debacle at Yokshire. Brown needs to be relieved of one day duties. Pathetic surrender, again!
The players on field received a message that Clarke wasn't coming back out so bowled Thomason......then who appears....Clarke who then takes 2 wickets in his remaining 2 overs.
I don't blame Thomason but that 19 run over cost when we were minimum 20 short anyway.
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If Yorkshire and Durham win we go down from 3rd to 6th.
We play Leicester at home Sunday who have suddenly started scoring runs and winning games.
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Watching the Bears these days is like watching the Villa over the last few years .Shameful performance from them tonight,we have a lot of bottlers in our team sadly. Yet again the likes of Evans, Clarke and Patel fail miserably with the bat .Stupid decision making from Clarke and Javid I feel Patel is lucky to keep his place on this season's showing as he is not only failing with the bat but not taking wickets.As for playing OHD,Gordon and Thomason in stead of Barker who we are told by WM is fit and wants to play only Dougie Brown knows the answer to that. To lose to the Pears twice hurts,this one more so as everyone else has been giving them a good hiding. Rant finished
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Yes, Warwickshire are in decline. The likes of OHD and Gordon are not befitting of a team like the Bears. Brown needs to go, as for the batting, the team have got steadily worse under Gooch's guidance. Where are Barker, Chopra and Trott??
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I agree with you Villafirst Brown has to go ,his decision making at times leaves a lot of Bears fans puzzled How Chopra is selected for the 4 day game but is ignored for the 1 day game baffles every Bear fan i speak to .How Evans is selected over Trott is another puzzle .Barker being left out for the likes of OHD and Gordon is another .Last week last 6 wickets went for 9 ,tonight last 8 went for 19 ,while in between the bottom team in the Championship who had taken only 14 bowling points ALL season make 531 claiming max bowling points .Lots of things not right with the Bears changes needed
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Agree with all that Pooligan. T20 Team lacks bottle and is being filled with Journeymen. I was hoping to follow a 'winning' team for once after the misery of watching Villa these last 6 years!
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Looks like Notts will beat Yorkshire
they require 12 off 11.
Samit Patel 51*
10 off 10
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Plunkett 3 dot balls plus Patels wicket
3 off 3 required.
Chris Read facing.
4 to Read to win game for Notts with 2 balls to spare.
Now over to Durham!!!
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Top 5 in North division for T20
Notts 12 16
Northa 11 14
Durham 11 12
Worcs 13 12
Bears 10 11
We should qualify but losing streak we're on i wouldn't bank on it. Need to be in top 2 for home draw. Away at probably Gloucester or Glamorgan if we don't.
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I'm loving the up and down nature of this Pears side - have tailed off a bit in white ball cricket as the 4 day stuff has improved.
Don't think we'll make finals day (only county never to be there) but hopeful of 4 day promotion now, just to pee off the ECB who even reduced promotion / relegation to one up this year to try & keep Div 1 to mainly test ground counties.
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Great T20 south coast Derby.
Excellent bowling by a couple of youngsters for Hampshire saw them defend a very low total.
The kid Wheal looks like a real prospect
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Just caught the end of that game. Really should've been a wide in the penultimate ball which might have made all the difference.
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At the major game of the day Leicester have won the toss and have put Bears in to bat, team:
Hain, Bell, Wade. Evans, Thomason, Clarke, Javid, Patel......and wait for it.....Barker, Poysden & OHD
Start 14:30
I hope i haven't made a mistake in stopping home to watch England win a test match!!!
Miss next Friday v Notts because of a game in France.
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Is it a must win today for the Bears?
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Bears 53/0 6 overs
Hain 20 (17) 3 x 4's
Bell 31 (19) 3 x 4's 2 x 6's
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Half way 10 overs gone
Bears 93/0
Hain 47 (32) 5 x 4's 1 x 6
Bell 44 (28) 3 x 4's 3 x 6's
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98/0 11
Hain 50 (36)
Bell 45 (30)
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110/0 12
Bell 50 (32) 4 x 4's 3 x 6's
Hain 56
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125/1 13
Bell ct O'Brien b Taylor 57 (35) 4 x4 4 x 6
Hain 65
Wade in
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139/2 14.1
Wade LBW McKay 5
Hain 73(47) 8 x 4's 2 x 6's
Evans in
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15 gone 142/2
Hain 74
Evans 2
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151/3 16
Hain Ct Raine b Delport 79 (52) 9 & 2
Evans 4
Clarke in before Thomason
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Here we go 164/4 17.2
Evans Ct Raine b Delport 9 (9) 1 x 4
Clarke 9
Barker in
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Made 186 for 4 in the end. Decent effort.
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Innings closed
186/4
Clarke 24 (15) 3 & 1
Barker 4 (5)
Could & should possibly have been a little more.
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Championship Latest Div 1 scores (Tea)
Lancs 204 v Durham 270/9
Surrey 209/1 @ Hants
Notts 206/1 v Somerset
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Seems a decent score to me given what we've got in the last few matches.
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Back underway
Clarke opened up 1 over gone
1/0
Pettini 1
Cosgrove 0
Tuesdays important game away at Northants 18:30 on Sky 2
OHD struck for 4 first ball
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Leic 36/1 4.3
Pettini Ct Patel b OHD 21
Cosgrove 12
Delport in
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End of powerplay
Leic 43/1 6 overs
Delport 2
Cosgrove 17
10.28 RR
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10 Overs 80/1
Delport 20 (17)
Cosgrove 36 (25)
81/2 10.2
Delport ct Patel b Javid 20
Cosgrove looking very dangerous...as he is on a regular basis in Big Bash
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91/3 11.3
Cosgrove Ct Evans b Patel 42 (29) 5 & 2
Hill 5
Behardien in
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127/3 15
Hill 24 (15)
Behardien 16 (9)
RR12
Barker 4 0 30
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133/4 16
Hill St Wade b Patel 29
Behardien 17
Niall O'Brian in
Patel 4 30 2
RR 13.82
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135/5 16.3
Behardien Ct Evans b Clarke 18
O'Brian 0
Wells in
15.3 RR
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138/6 17
Wells Run Out (Clarke) 2
O'Brian 1
Taylor in
RR 16.33
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153/7 18.5
Taylor Ct Barker b Clarke 8
O'Brian 7
Raine in
Snookers required!!!
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156/8 19.3
O'Brian Ct Patel b OHD 9
Raine 1
McKay in
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Won by 28 runs. Pissed it in the end, I was concerned halfway through the Leicester innings.
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158/9 20 overs
Win by 28 runs
Bowling
Clarke 4 17 2
OHD 4 38 2
Barker 4 30 0
Patel 4 30 2
Poysden 2 25 0
Javid 2 15 1
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Div 1 latest Championship scores:
Lancs 204 & 31/1 Durham 291
Surrey 300/4 @ Hants
Notts 275/2 v Somerset Mullaney 144*
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Bears Birds 69/2 11 overs v Lancs Lassies
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Close of play Div 1 scores
Notts 311/4 v Somerset
Surrey 332/4 v Hants
Lancs 204 & 59/1 v Durham 291
Bears birds 134/2 off 17
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Won by 28 runs. Pissed it in the end, I was concerned halfway through the Leicester innings.
Me too mate, but it was quite comfortable in the end. Still concerned about our bowling attack if Rankin isn't playing. Nice few hours in the sun at Edgbaston though!
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At least Barker came in for Gordon. What's happened to Chris Wright?
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At least Barker came in for Gordon. What's happened to Chris Wright?
Went to the game with my cousin and we were both saying that Barker is hardly ever seen in the T20 side. Wright is another one.
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Wright is injured, that's why we have to protect Barker
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Wright is injured, that's why we have to protect Barker
Barker has hardly featured in T20 for a number of seasons now though.
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Good day and win yesterday at Edgy in the sun. 1 more win should see us through to the quarters, 2 wins and we can probably look forward to a home quarter-final.
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Tomorrow's Bears game at Northants is on Sky.
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Tomorrow's Bears game at Northants is on Sky.
Don't know about others, but I find it hard to follow goings on with all the changing formats dotted around the season. Would much prefer County Championship to be played during weekdays in a block with the 50 over tournament at weekends. Then have the season culminating in the T20 blast in one block with Finals Day being the grand finale.
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The Twenty20 is the main money-spinner and should be played as a block in July, IMO, when it doesn't clash with the football. Plus the Twenty20 Finals Day is now, probably, the biggest day on the calendar now. If you're going to get people talking about the game and temp young fans to attend you don't want your biggest game played on a day when rain is very likely.
Obviously in Britain it can rain at any time, but you've got a better chance getting away with it in July than September.
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Was good to see the Bears back to winning ways on Sunday,mind you we always seem to beat the Foxes no matter what. Was good to see Barker back in the side. If we could get Trott in for Evans who failed yet again even in this game and Wright or Rankin in for OHD who was expensive yet again i would say we would be a far stronger team.
Big game today,would be nice to turn up against Northants for a change
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Wright is injured, that's why we have to protect Barker
Wright is in the squad for this evening's game.
Birmingham Bears will face Northants Steelbacks at Northampton tomorrow knowing that victory would secure their place in the NatWest T20 Blast quarter-finals.
Birmingham returned to form on Sunday, putting three successive defeats behind them with a comfortable 28-run win over Leicestershire at Edgbaston. With three North Group games left, one win would now ensure their qualification while two would probably bring a home draw in the last eight.
Garnering those wins won't be easy with the next two games against the group's top two sides, the Steelbacks tomorrow and then top-of-the-table Notts Outlaws in a mouth-watering clash at Edgbaston on Friday.
First up, the Steelbacks - with whom Birmingham have unfinished business after the visitors cruised to an eight-wicket victory at Edgbaston earlier this month, insists captain Ian Bell.
"I'll be saying to the guys remember what happened at our place," Bell said. "Northampton are one of the best teams in the group and we didn't do ourselves justice against them. We were way off par, so it would be great to go there and level the score and get ourselves into the quarter-finals.
"The win over Leicestershire Foxes was very important for us, momentum-wise. The guys had a really good day but we have to back it up and beat Northamptonshire.
"We need one more win from three games but the frustrating thing is we should have put qualification to bed already. We have had opportunities to be top of the group. We have a very good side here - we just haven't nailed it consistently yet which is frustrating but at the same time quite exciting.
"Our squad has some really good youngsters and we have all the skills you need, but we have to learn very quickly to nail those positions."
Progress through a 14-game group campaign is unlikely to be without blips, especially in a format as volatile as T20. But while six wins have left the Bears within touching distance of qualification, they have suffered some spectacular batting collapses too, notably at New Road last Friday when they lost eight wickets for 19 runs.
"If I'm honest it's been a frustration because in the games against Yorkshire Vikings and Worcestershire Raids it wasn't that we played really badly, it's just that we didn't nailed the real crunch periods of the game," said Bell.
"At home to Northampton we had a bad day and got outplayed, but at Yorkshire we lost five wickets for six runs and then at Worcester Matt Wade played one of the best knocks I've ever seen and then we lose eight for 19. I didn't know what to say after that, at first, but we had a good honest chat after the game and the guys responded really well against Leicestershire. Now we have got to carry that on at Northampton."
Birmingham Bears Squad
Ian Bell (Captain)
Mark Adair
Keith Barker
Rikki Clarke
Laurie Evans
Recordo Gordon
Sam Hain
Oliver Hannon-Dalby
Ateeq Javid
Jeetan Patel
Josh Poysden
Aaron Thomason
Matthew Wade (Wicket-Keeper)
Chris Wright
Play gets underway at 6.30pm with live coverage on Sky Sports and ball-by-ball commentary on BBC Radio WM and BBC Radio Coventry & Warwickshire.
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The Edgbaston Beer Festival Edgbaston Stadium is excited to announce the launch of their very own beer festival - The Edgbaston Beer Festival. The Beer festival takes place on 22nd and 24th July to coincide with the NatWest T20 Blast game against Nottinghamshire Outlaws and the Royal London One-Day Cup against Worcestershire County Cricket Club.
This festival is in conjunction with our Official Ale Partner, Marston’s. The event will house over 50 different beers, ales and ciders, including some well know favourites and the new Birmingham Bears Ale.
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Essex dispatched in both T20 and the proper cricket. Leicestershire in the Championship tomorrow. Need to get our act together in the forthcoming 50 over stuff.
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Barker just bowled a over for just two runs and then we have that useless OHD go for 18 including the first four balls going for 4 How much longer do we have to put up with him ?25 runs he has gone for in just two overs so far
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OHD is abysmal, but even Clarke's getting the snot pounded out of him. Hope we bat better.
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Going to be chasing 200+ here.
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OHD is abysmal, but even Clarke's getting the snot pounded out of him. Hope we bat better.
For Clarke, now read Barker.
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OHD last over? Well done Bell. Rubbish bowling. Way way too many short balls. Why not bowl Thomason through who did well with 2 wickets? Be lucky to chase down 201.
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Only Bell and Brown could explain how they bowled the piss poor OHD instead of Thomason for the final over. Been listening on line to ex players Mal Loye and Lee Daggert and they were saying as well as Northants played the bowling was awful and got what it deserved .Hope i am proved wrong but i can't see the bears getting over 200
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http://www.espncricinfo.com/county-cricket-2016/content/story/1036671.html
Nice write up of the continuation of the D'Oliviera name at New Road
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Clarke had an over left, but they give the abysmal OHD the last over? Poor decision making. 87/3 after 11 overs. Can't see us chasing this down. Hope I'm wrong.
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And so the collapse starts on cue. Something badly wrong with technique and tactics. Pathetic batting playing across the line. 111/7 now. Same collapse at Yorkshire and Worcester. Brown needs to go.
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112/9 now. Shocking collapse again. Don't worry, OHD is in now to save the day!
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That was all kinds of rubbish from Da Bears.
Bell played nicely but they're lacking a slugger
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Another Brainless,Spineless performance. Something seriously wrong when a side collapse so often as the Bears do .Same poor decisions being made by Brown and Bell .Yet again strange bowling decisions .As stated both Clarke and Thomason both had a over left so they bowl the abysmal OHD who just failed to give 50 away.As for the batting,well it was the same old story, Evans, Clarke , Javid and Patel failing yet again .Thomason and Barker givining their wickets away with brainless shots .Even Bell who had played so well gave his wicket away by all accounts to a stupid shot. Takes some doing to be thrashed by 75 runs in a 20/20 match when you are 60-1 but we managed it and worse still it was in front of the tv cameras to
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Last 6 wickets went for 21 runs! Familiar collapse. I'm afraid other counties cast-offs like Poysden and OHD are not good enough.
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Yeah your right Villafirst in what you say .Also to many players assured of their place no matter how they perform .I keep saying it, how you can ignore Trott and Chopra two of the Bears top scorers in 20/20 and play the likes of Evans and Javid is just beyond me .Nobody loves Bell more me than me,but i dont think he will be a good captain. Yet again his decision to put Northants in on what looked a good pitch for batting surprised the ex pros i was listening to online.They predicted after around 8 overs that Northants would make 200 and no way would the Bears would chase them down .Sadly they were spot on ..Its fast becoming as bad as watching the Villa hammered so often last season watching the Bears
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Very disheartening watching that performance last night. Bell batted well but his captaincy was awful, bowling first in those conditions and constantly bringing the useless OHD back despite him going for a boundary with the first ball EVERY time he returned, meanwhile Clarke who only bowled 1 bad over was left with a spare over unused.
Our batting line-up contains too many bits and pieces players, Javid, Evans, etc. just cannot be relied on.
Time to get some proper cricketers back in the side; Ambrose, Trott, maybe Chopra even though he's leaving. Also Wright and Rankin when they are fit are a better option than OHD, or part-time options like Javid and Poysden.
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Our game with Leicestershire won't last long. We were all out for 183 on a very Bowler friendly wicket. They are currently 90-5 in response.
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Arshad has bowled 4 overs tonight for Durham and gone for 63!
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Bresnan doing a OHD just gone for 17 in his first over including 4 fours
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Very disheartening watching that performance last night. Bell batted well but his captaincy was awful, bowling first in those conditions and constantly bringing the useless OHD back despite him going for a boundary with the first ball EVERY time he returned, meanwhile Clarke who only bowled 1 bad over was left with a spare over unused.
Our batting line-up contains too many bits and pieces players, Javid, Evans, etc. just cannot be relied on.
Time to get some proper cricketers back in the side; Ambrose, Trott, maybe Chopra even though he's leaving. Also Wright and Rankin when they are fit are a better option than OHD, or part-time options like Javid and Poysden.
OHD has been woeful recently and he is a poor fielder to boot. Not really sure why went for the overseas option of a wicketkeeper when there are other areas in much more need of some added quality. If Evans isn't firing, the batting lacks a dynamic edge and especially now Rankin is out, our bowling attack is missing a bit of zip.
Big game at Edgbaston on Friday now.
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Very disheartening watching that performance last night. Bell batted well but his captaincy was awful, bowling first in those conditions and constantly bringing the useless OHD back despite him going for a boundary with the first ball EVERY time he returned, meanwhile Clarke who only bowled 1 bad over was left with a spare over unused.
Our batting line-up contains too many bits and pieces players, Javid, Evans, etc. just cannot be relied on.
Time to get some proper cricketers back in the side; Ambrose, Trott, maybe Chopra even though he's leaving. Also Wright and Rankin when they are fit are a better option than OHD, or part-time options like Javid and Poysden.
OHD has been woeful recently and he is a poor fielder to boot. Not really sure why went for the overseas option of a wicketkeeper when there are other areas in much more need of some added quality. If Evans isn't firing, the batting lacks a dynamic edge and especially now Rankin is out, our bowling attack is missing a bit of zip.
Big game at Edgbaston on Friday now.
I think OHD has managed to turn his major advantage in this format into its opposite; that is, his chest on action allows him to react very late on to the batsman's movement. They have all cottoned on now though, and they are double and triple shuffling. The first ball of his first three overs went for 4 the other night, apparently, which is not what you need.
I worry about the Barker's inclusion in this format on the grounds that he has had severe problems with his rhythm/action in the CC in the past and I can't see this helping much.
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Very disheartening watching that performance last night. Bell batted well but his captaincy was awful, bowling first in those conditions and constantly bringing the useless OHD back despite him going for a boundary with the first ball EVERY time he returned, meanwhile Clarke who only bowled 1 bad over was left with a spare over unused.
Our batting line-up contains too many bits and pieces players, Javid, Evans, etc. just cannot be relied on.
Time to get some proper cricketers back in the side; Ambrose, Trott, maybe Chopra even though he's leaving. Also Wright and Rankin when they are fit are a better option than OHD, or part-time options like Javid and Poysden.
OHD has been woeful recently and he is a poor fielder to boot. Not really sure why went for the overseas option of a wicketkeeper when there are other areas in much more need of some added quality. If Evans isn't firing, the batting lacks a dynamic edge and especially now Rankin is out, our bowling attack is missing a bit of zip.
Big game at Edgbaston on Friday now.
I think OHD has managed to turn his major advantage in this format into its opposite; that is, his chest on action allows him to react very late on to the batsman's movement. They have all cottoned on now though, and they are double and triple shuffling. The first ball of his first three overs went for 4 the other night, apparently, which is not what you need.
I worry about the Barker's inclusion in this format on the grounds that he has had severe problems with his rhythm/action in the CC in the past and I can't see this helping much.
First ball of all 4 overs, it really was farcical that Bell kept bringing him back on for 1 over spells when it was clear the batsmen had him worked out.
I didn't know that about Barker, not worth sacrificing his County Championship consistency for the benefit of us getting 4 overs out of him in a few T20s. Let's hope he continues with the great season he's been having.
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The performance by the Bears in recent games has been poor and collapses of the kind seen in the last week are unacceptable.
The bowlers have been getting some stick and rightly so. The thing is, T20 is so weighted in favour of the batsmen that it's not uncommon for even the best bowlers to be carted all around the park. As a result I think our batsmen should shoulder the lions share of the blame. Chasing 200 should be possible against a county attack.
I also think that they don't want to play Ambrose in T20 to prolong his 4 day career. The fact that they recruited two keepers for the T20 suggests this. Barker, Rankin, Trott and Ambrose should be preserved for the county championship and fringe players used in T20 to give them experience.
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Watching Durham at Yorkshire last night was like watching the Bears of late.Durham were poor but at least unlike the Bears they just did'nt give up and at least managed to see their overs out and try to improve their net run rate which could be a big factor
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Chopra should be playing as an opener in the T20, move Bell to 3. No brainer really. But Brown has other ideas....
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Chopra should be playing as an opener in the T20, move Bell to 3. No brainer really. But Brown has other ideas....
I'm beginning to think Brown has no idea. Along the lines of Villa managers in the past 5 years.
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Notts squad for tonight looks very strong compared to ours:
•Ian Bell (Captain)
•Keith Barker
•Rikki Clarke
•Laurie Evans
•Recordo Gordon
•Sam Hain
•Oliver Hannon-Dalby
•Ateeq Javid
•Matt Lamb
•Jeetan Patel
•William Porterfield
•Josh Poysden
•Aaron Thomason
•Matthew Wade (Wicket-Keeper)
Porterfield added along with another youngster, a 'lamb' to the slaughter if you'll excuse the pun.
Please, please leave out OHD tonight Dougie Brown.
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Disappointing to see only one change from the other night. Porterfield replaces surprise surprise Poysden .No Trott ,Chopra or Wright again and somehow the abysmal OHD plays again .Can see another thrashing on the cards
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Brown is hopeless. Experienced players to choose from, and he sticks with OHD, who can't bowl or bat! Well done Dougie!
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172-2 off 20 for the Bears. Over to you, bowlers!
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Notts started well but two wickets in three balls from Barker will peg then back a bit.
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Fucked as usual.
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Somehow we qualified for the quarter finals
I make it we are away @ Gloucestershire?????
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One more game to go have to beat lancs to qualify?
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Not convincing again. Need experience at this stage. Where's Rankin and Wright? We've suggested Barker all through this campaign, who did well tonight, Brown has finally seen the merit in picking him, but possibly too late. Brown has messed up big time with his selections.
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One more game to go have to beat lancs to qualify?
Yes spot on mate.....ignore my ramblings
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Just as i feared another defeat ,i think thats 6 out of the last 7 now in this 20/20 .We put in a better fight than of late but i always felt Notts were always just in front .Our bowling is just not good enough against the better teams,when you are relying on Javid who is a part time bowler and not that very good,Thomason who is a 18 year old novice and OHD who is just not good enough you just know we are going to struggle .I heard Brown say both Rankin and Wright are injured so why let Richard Jones who i note was playing for Leicester today go on loan .Strange decision making,our Dougie reminds of that other scot i had to put up with earlier in the year Eric Black ,stubborn,boring and clueless.
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Just as i feared another defeat ,i think thats 6 out of the last 7 now in this 20/20 .We put in a better fight than of late but i always felt Notts were always just in front .Our bowling is just not good enough against the better teams,when you are relying on Javid who is a part time bowler and not that very good,Thomason who is a 18 year old novice and OHD who is just not good enough you just know we are going to struggle .I heard Brown say both Rankin and Wright are injured so why let Richard Jones who i note was playing for Leicester today go on loan .Strange decision making,our Dougie reminds of that other scot i had to put up with earlier in the year Eric Black ,stubborn,boring and clueless.
Went tonight and agree with that. Decent batting performance, but no real acceleration when required and we ended up about 20 runs short. With no Woakes, Wright or Rankin, the bowling has too many weak links and poor overs from Hannon-Dolby, Thomason and Javid cost us the game in the end. I still don't quite understand the logic of bringing an overseas wicketkeeper over when we are short in other areas.
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I'm not sure what the thinking was with team selection where Yorkshire are concerned for the earlier matches but if they'd yplayed the team they've selected for the last four games they'd have qualification well and truly guaranteed.
Not proper cricket though.
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Managed to blag tickets for a fiver each and arrived just in time for the first Pear wicket.
Worcs 18 for 4 off 6.2. Come on you Bears!
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19 for 6! Clarke five-for in under five overs bowled!
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Bumpy Rhodes is on the phone to the pitch inspectors - 19/6
Bears Team - SR Hain, WTS Porterfield, IJL Trott, IR Bell*, TR Ambrose†, LJ Evans, R Clarke, KHD Barker, JS Patel, RO Gordon, OJ Hannon-Dalby
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I think this is where I say we are concentrating on div 2 promotion :-) yikes!!!!
Top 6 has been a bit of Achilles heel the last month / 6 weeks
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48 for 7
Bears have only used 3 bowlers....5 for Rikki, 1 each for Flash and Barker
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Fifty partnership so finally some fight from the visitors. 96 for 7 off 31.
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Pears 115 all out
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Easy easy easy.
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Good that the Bears got back to winning ways.Even better that it was a thrashing against our friends from down the M5 the Pears .I was hoping we might skittle them for less than 50 but to bowl them out for 115 will do.With Small Heath losing up in Scotland it turned out to be a rather nice day
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V good win yesterday. Let's hope we can qualify in the 50-over comp as I can't see us making the T20 quarters anymore.
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Just seen the team to play Northants today and am not impressed .Yet again strange decisions by Brown and Bell. Trott and Barker left out and replaced by Wright and Javid .With a bowling attack that includes a half fit Wright ,Gordon, the undroppable OHD and Javid i fear the worst against a strong Northants batting side .
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Why do we persist with OHD?
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I use to ask the same question about Westwood
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Ben Duckett scored 220 off 131 balls for England yesterday, he is currently 22 not out against our "attack". It could get messy.
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Our attack did well in the end !
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Indeed they did, winning today will put us second with a very good chance of qualification.
With a long journey up to Durham tomorrow I can see why Brown rested Trott and Barker. Hopefully with them back tomorrow we can give Durham a real good go and have qualification very much in our own hands.
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Trott and Barker are injured. Barker has a thigh strain and Trott banjaxed the back im pre match exercises. Warks 222/2 chasing 255.
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Bears won by 8 wickets. Win tomorrow at Durham and we are through to the quarter finals.
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Second successive excellent performance. Well done Bears!
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Trott and Barker are injured. Barker has a thigh strain and Trott banjaxed the back im pre match exercises. Warks 222/2 chasing 255.
Ah, ok thanks.
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Great win for the Bears again.Must admit i was fearing the worst with the start Northants made .Good to thrash another of the sides who have beaten us a couple of times this season .All credit to Hain and Porterfield,pity about the run out, by all accounts they were only ten runs short of setting a new record for any wicket for the Bears
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Durham have won the toss and have put us in to bat.
Same team as yesterday so Trott not recovered from whatever he tweaked in yesterdays warm up. No Barker again!!!
Hain, Porterfield, Bell, Evans, Ambrose, Clarke, Ateeq,Patel, Gordon,OHD, Wright.
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6/1 2.4
Porterfield Ct Poynter b Rushworth 6
Hain 0*
Bell in
7/1 3
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78/2 17.1
Bell Ct Poynter b Borthwick 31
Hain 38*
Ambrose in
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104/2 23
Hain 51* (57) 8 x 4's
Ambrose 14 (23)
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Hain seems to be back at his level from a couple of seasons ago which is good to see.
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Other North Group games
Northants 203/5 34.1 @ Worc
Notts 164/7 38.4 @ Yorks
Bears now 115/2 25
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153/2 30 overs
Hain 79
Ambrose 34
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175/2 34.1
Ambrose 51 (55) 4 x 4's 1 x 6
Hain 84*
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Notts finished on 251/9 @ Scarborough
Bears meanwhile 192/2 37.3
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208/2 40.4
Hain 101 (110) 13 x 4s
Ambrose 67
Partnership 130
5 more for Hain gives him his highest one day score
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221/3 41.5
Hain b Jennings 107 (114) Highest score for him
Ambrose 72
Evans in
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Northants finished 319/7 @ Worcester
Lancs 32/2 8.5 @ Derby
us 233/3 43.2 now
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248/4 45.4
Ambrose Ct Borthwick b Arshad 86
Evans 12
Clarke in
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Chasing 293 Durham are 70/1 15.4
Jennings Ct Gordon b Patel 23
Stoneman 38*
Borthwick 1*
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Other North Grp games:
Notts 251/9 Yorks 152/5 31.2
Northants 319/7 Worc 141/1 25.5
Lancs 223/5 43.4 v Derby
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25 gone Durham:
111/1
Stoneman 55*
Borthwick 23*
Bears were 115/2 at same stage.
Lancs finished 281/8 v Derby
Durham 113/2 25.3
Stoneman b Javid 56
Borthwick 24
Burnham in
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156/3 32.1
Burnham Ct Clarke b Gordon 21
Borthwick 44*
Collingwood in
Required RR 7.68
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Yorkshire 225/8 need 27 off 5 but one thing in their favour Bresnan still there 84*
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Glos have to win to stand a chance in this cup. Surrey made 323 but it is a good batting deck. I had also completely missed the fact we had acquired Phil Mustard until the end of the season.
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201/4 37.2
Borthwick b Wright 66
Collingwood 21*
Richardson 0*
Pulled Bears back in it.
Req RR 7.38 but currently going at 9
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Shit.
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Yorkshire have beaten Notts by 2 wkts with 2 balls to spare.
Bresnan 95*
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Yorkshire have beaten Notts by 2 wkts with 2 balls to spare.
Bresnan 95*
Eh? 27 off 3 balls?
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232/4 40
61 off 10 required.
Collingwood just smashed 20 off Wright in last over
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Yorkshire have beaten Notts by 2 wkts with 2 balls to spare.
Bresnan 95*
Eh? 27 off 3 balls?
27 off 5 overs
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Chris Wright conceded 20 runs to Collingwood in the 40th over.
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Chris Wright conceded 20 runs to Collingwood in the 40th over.
6 . . 4 6 4
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251/4 43.1
Collingwood 51 (31) now ct Gordon b Clarke 53
253/5 43.3
Richardson 17*
Pringle in
40 required 39 balls
36 reqd 38
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279/6 45.3
Pringle Ct Ambrose b Gordon 15
Richardson 24
Poynter in
14 required
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4 off 18 balls required.....another bad day at the office when batting first we just can set a total worthy of the name.
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All Over:
Bowling figures
Clarke 10 0 60 1
Wright 7 0 54 1
Gordon 8.4 0 49 2
Patel 10 0 56 1
Javid 4 0 14 0
OHD 8 0 51 0
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Yorkshire have beaten Notts by 2 wkts with 2 balls to spare.
Bresnan 95*
Eh? 27 off 3 balls?
27 off 5 overs
That makes more sense!
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All Over:
Bowling figures
Clarke 10 0 60 1
Wright 7 0 54 1
Gordon 8.4 0 49 2
Patel 10 0 56 1
Javid 4 0 14 0
OHD 8 0 51 0
I take it Javid must have injured himself after his 4th over?
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Could really do with Lancashire beating Derbyshire tonight.
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What i feared would happen yesterday happened today instead .292 would be a good score and very defendable ,that is if you have not got a bowling attack like we have at the moment .Dougie's blue eyed boy OHD managed to be our worst bowler again going for 0-51 in just 8 overs.Wright who takes the odd wicket but goes for plenty quite often,went for 1-54 but almost certainly turned the game Durham's way when he went for 20 at a crucial stage .Patel whose performances in the white ball game this season have been disappointing was expensive as was Clarke today.Another strange decision by our coach/captain was to not bowl Javid who took 1-14 in four overs again in the match .I listened to the whole match and he was not injured Finally i think someone should tell Patel that he is allowed to use his bat when he is at the crease .Must be at least half a dozen times this season he has been out first ball Our batting maestro Gooch needs to sort him out
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www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/english-one-day/table
Going to be extremely difficult to qualify now with our last game away at Yorkshire, even if we do we will need to rely on
other results.
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The likelihood is that we will be out of both competitions by Monday night.
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Yes i think it is more than likely we will be out of both competitions come Monday night.With our clueless stubborn DOC almost certain to select the same bunch of players who have failed time after time you just can not see us winning at either Headingley or Old Trafford .
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The likelihood is that we will be out of both competitions by Monday night.
Sadly I think this is spot on. Don't see us being close in the County Champ when it comes to the crunch over the next 2 months either. We need to recruit a bit more aggressively in the close season for a change.
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Richard Jones who has been on loan at Leicestershire has signed a 2 year deal there.
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Ten Doeschate just got clattered in the head by a screaming drive by Zaidi.
Luckily it was flush in the face if the helmet and he's OK to carry on.
Zaidi wins the game for Essex with yet another six. Superb innings to turn the game around. Essex looked out if it with four overs to go.
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Ten Doeschate just got clattered in the head by a screaming drive by Zaidi.
Luckily it was flush in the face if the helmet and he's OK to carry on.
Zaidi wins the game for Essex with yet another six. Superb innings to turn the game around. Essex looked out if it with four overs to go.
Yes that carnage from Zaidi was great entertainment to win that game.
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I agree with you Hoyle87, i can not see us winning the County Championship either .Our chance of winning it all but disappeared with Woakes being called up by England and doing so well. I just read that Dougie Brown can not explain why some of the players he has called in can not perform when under pressure It is easy Dougie,the likes of Evans,Javid,Gordon and OHD are just not good enough against the better teams
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On the plus side, Barker fit again and could play tonight. Trott might return for Monday's crunch One-Day Cup clash with Yorkshire.
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Lancs won toss and are batting...so we are chasing which we prefer. Team:
Bell. Hain, Porterfield, Wade, Evans, Clarke, Javid, Gordon, Patel, Poysden, OHD
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Sadly as i predicted,same old faces for the match at Lancs with the exception of Wade for Ambrose .We will be chasing a big total with the bowling attack we have put out
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Barker injured, Wright smashed all over the park last time. Gordon our 2nd best seamer last time out after the consistent Clarke not a lot of choice with Rankin also injured.
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Dougie just said that had we won toss we would have batted....unusual that...we've been shit when doing so.
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Adair and Thomason who did quite well in his last match would be far better choices than the likes of OHD and Gordon in my opinion .
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Did we ask the ECB if Woaksie could play ???? I see Rashid is playing for the Yorkies.......
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Smith LBW Clarke 6
18/1 2.3
Ball that kept low
Last 6 times these played each other side batting first have won!!!
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Adair and Thomason who did quite well in his last match would be far better choices than the likes of OHD and Gordon in my opinion .
Bowling attack looks weak again tonight.
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23/2 3.5
Brown Ct Evans b Gordon 5
Petersen 11*
Livingston in
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End of powerplay
29/2 6 overs
Livingston 4
Petersen 13
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Livingston b Patel 10
Petersen 19
Croft in
41/3 8.4
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44/4 9.5
Croft b Poysden 2
Petersen 20*
Moores in
45/4 10 overs 19 runs in last 5 overs
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Sounds like a spinner's wicket
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So far so good.
#COYB
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59/5 13.3
Petersen Ct Bell b Poysden 27
Moores 8
Clark in
Moores just hit first 4 since 5th over 63/5
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15 gone 69/5
Clark 2
Moores 15
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101/5 18
Took spin off to bring Rikki back and he goes for 18 off the over.
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They made 124 for 5.
We should do this.
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Going to be very difficult now
124/5 20 41 off last 3 overs
Clark 31
Moores 39
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We will need Bell and Hain to play well and get most of the 125 we need
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Bowling figures
Clarke 4 1 28
OHD 2 0 14
Gordon 3 1 20
Javid 3 0 15
Patel 4 1 23
Poysden 4 2 21
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Other North group games:
Yorkshire 177 @ Northants
Leics 115/3 15 overs @ Notts Raining
Durham 193/2 v Derby
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16/0 2 overs
Bell 12
Hain 4
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18/1 3.1
Bell Ct Moores b Mahmood 13
Hain 5
Porterfield in
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33/2 5
Porterfield Run Out 5 for the second time in a week by Hain staying rooted to spot same as in the week v Northants
Wade in
Hain 15
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Powerplay completed
33/2 6 overs
Maiden from Mahmood (Eng U19) Born in Brum
Hain 15
Wade to face first ball
Third spinner on for Lancs now
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This is doable but need to at 60 after 10
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10 gone 57/2
Hain 27
Wade 12
ReqR 6.8
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4th spinner on now for Lancs in 12th over. Run rate steadily going up as:
Hain Ct Moores b Livingston 28
61/3 11.4
Wade 15
Clarke in ahead of Evans
RR 7.68
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63/4 12.1
Wade b Croft 16
Clarke 1
Evans in
Looking grim
RR 7.91
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How the fuck are we losing this game
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I am there and lancs fans left after their innings
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72/4 14 rr 8.83
Spinners dictating everything theyve got 1 more than us
73/4 15 RR 10.4
Croft 4 1 12
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79/4 16 RR11.5
Parry 4 0 22
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80/5 16.3
Evans Ct Smith b Lilley 7
45 off 21 balls a rate of 12.85 req'd
T20 season over now as Clarke Ct Livingston b Lilley 10
80/6 16.4
Javid & Patel in
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Can't deal with such a spinners paradise.
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43 off 18 required now
Fuckin shite. I knew it would be difficult with their spinners but this is woeful.
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Letting them get ten an over after their 5th wicket went was criminal.
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85/7 18
Javid Ct Livingston b Mahmood 4
Gordon in with Patel
40 off 12
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Doug Out.
(Old habits die hard)
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And we have absolutely no one down the order who can go big when running out of overs. Terrible management.
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What a pathetic effort.
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34 needed off last over.
124 is the lowest defended total this season
Six of our last 7 lost.
92/8 19.2 Gordon Ct Parry b Mahmood 3
We have to go to Headingley Monday who are top of group in a must win game so seems certain that our one day cricket over till 2017.
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Apparently we didn't score a boundary after the 5th over is that true !?
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We should do all we can to entice Gilo back, give Brown his P45 and break the bank to sign an overseas player with proven leadership to replace Bell.
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The other thing I've noticed for this competition is the number of newly qualified or Kolpak type players a lot of the most succesful and exciting teams have, plus major T20 overseas talents. Our budget seems very limited by comparison but I'd like to go down this road and let the young English talent develop in the other 2 competitions.
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We should do all we can to entice Gilo back, give Brown his P45 and break the bank to sign an overseas player with proven leadership to replace Bell.
Replace Bell!!!
Brown maybe, no complaints about Bell in this format from me 5 x 50's done his job, showed maybe too much faith in OHD on occasion plus Gordon but Gordon come through
and bowled well lately. Barkers injury not helped. Hain's run out of Porterfield may have been critical also tonight. Last thing i want to see is an overseas captain, i don't necessarily
agree with keeper as overseas player but i want us to pay for an overseas run scorer not put pressures of captaincy on him as well.
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Stubborn refusal to spend the massive amounts of money we get, as a regular international venue, on proven stars costs us again.
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We should do all we can to entice Gilo back, give Brown his P45 and break the bank to sign an overseas player with proven leadership to replace Bell.
Replace Bell!!!
Brown maybe, no complaints about Bell in this format from me 5 x 50's done his job, showed maybe too much faith in OHD on occasion plus Gordon but Gordon come through
and bowled well lately. Barkers injury not helped. Hain's run out of Porterfield may have been critical also tonight. Last thing i want to see is an overseas captain, i don't necessarily
agree with keeper as overseas player but i want us to pay for an overseas run scorer not put pressures of captaincy on him as well.
You watch far more Warwickshire than I do but he seems too old school for 20/20 cricket and his captaincy decisions in all forms have sometimes baffled (Javid only having four overs the other night a fine example).
I get the overseas captain negativity but I just feel we could do with a shake up, unless there is someone else already in the squad who could be captain. Too early for Hain but Trott seems to have a better cricketing brain than Bell. Porterfield would be a better captain but is he as good as Mike Brearley if you understand what I mean.
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Dearie dearie me,there was me worried about our pathetic bowling attack and forgetting about how piss poor our batting is quite often .All i heard was how hard it was to get the ball of the square yet Lancs managed 40 0dd 0ff the last three overs .Until the powers that be at Edgbaston wake up to the fact that Dougie Brown nice chap that he is,is just not up to the job and needs to be replaced ,we are not going anywhere. Yet again some strange decisions tonight,as someone mentioned, with the spinners bowling so well,why bring Clarke back who promptly went for 18 .Rank bad decision making by Hain to run out Porterfield twice in a week.Why not play Ambrose just as a batsmen,he is in good form .The stubborn way of Brown not to play Chopra in white ball cricket yet is ok for red ball.Oh i could go on but what is the use,maybe when we are out of all white ball cricket come Monday night and Mr Snowball the top man at the club wakes up to all the potential revenue we will lose ,he will act
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Stubborn refusal to spend the massive amounts of money we get, as a regular international venue, on proven stars costs us again.
Not sure if that's strictly true ....we have probably the largest debt in county cricket which to be fair we manage very well unlike a smaller
county such as Durham who are on verge of administration, being threatened by ECB. We are a long way from that due, i suppose,to our prudence
on the playing budget. In all honesty i don't give a toss about T20 competition. To me personally it's the least important of the 3 formats, as much as i enjoy T20
Championship cricket is for me the barometer we should measure ourselves against. We ain't setting the world alight currently but we aren't doing too badly.
Next couple of seasons going to be a little upheaval with Chopra going so time will tell, the development of our young talent is hopefully going to benefit us in the long term.
Finances i am more than happy to see Mr Snowball ride that...he has only recently taken over let us as a membership give him the opportunity to deliver long term.
I want to win things as much as the next man believe me.
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Imagine my surprise.
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Some of the collapses over the last 6 or 7 games have been pathetic. Continually playing the likes of OHD & Gordon and leaving out Chopra/Trott & Ambrose is plain stupid. Brown needs to go. Dare I say it, things have got progressively worse since Povey went. Would love Gilo back but I think he's signed a new contract at Lancs? Very dissapointed at such a gutless performance, akin to Villa last season!
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The Powers that be at the club seem to have overlooked just how bad we were in the second of last season .In the winter we brought nobody in bar some unknown wicket keeper from Staffs who they have loaned out to Derby. I remember Brown going on about how strong our bowling line up was and how difficult it was going to be to leave people out .Apart from the fact he was in my opinion over rating the likes of OHD and Gordon,he was forgetting that the likes of Rankin,Wright and Jones are injury prone and miss large chunks of a season.We also have the situation where one of our best players is now leaving ,the club say he wants to leave to be nearer home ,yet we have heard nothing like that from Chopra himself
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Agree, Bears are in decline under Brown. The Chopra situation is odd, a good servant over his tenure, and I think a better captain than Bell. Investment in the squad which needs fresh blood is a must over the winter.
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Signed young quickie Olly Stone today from Northants, not too sure length of contract.
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So the Bears have signed Olly Stone from Northants. I hope he is better than the last bowler called Olly we signed. He has signed a 3 year contract.The bad news is he wont play until next season as he is injured (should fit with most of our bowlers then) It is good to see we are actually active in looking to bring players in,i think it would'nt be a bad idea to go back to Northants and get Ben Duckett
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Royal London Cup North Group latest scores:
Derby 272/7 v Northants 91/0 13.2 Need Northants to win this.
Worc 55/1 8 overs replying to Lancs 267/7 Ideal result for us i suppose is a rain result 1 point each
Leic 279 v Notts 31/1 7.5 overs.....Need Leicester to win this
Durham 281/7 Yorks 46/2 10.2 Need Yorks to win this
Too many ifs and buts...basically we're f--ked. You can watch our last game of the group on SS2 tomorrow afternoon where we MUST win to have the
remotest chance of qualification.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/english-one-day/table
The Group 1 table after todays games
Tomorrows fixtures to complete the set:
Derby v LEICESTER
LANCS v Durham
Notts v WORC
Yorks v BEARS
Teams in caps i believe need to win, but i think WE must win as a winner from Derby v Leicester will go on to 8 points.
I suppose if heavens open nationwide and all games rained off then we qualify!!!
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/36928061
Tom Fell scores ton today after coming back from cancer treatment....fair play to him
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So it's in our own hands. Time for Dougie and Bell to prove me wrong.
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Didn't know he was only 22. That must have been one satisfying ton.
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Won the toss and are batting.
3 seamers and 2 spinners again. Havent seen actual line up.
No Bresnan for Yorkshire
14:15 start
Team: Hain, Porterfield, Trott, Bell, Ambrose, Evans, Clarke, Javid, Patel, Wright & Gordon
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The start has been delayed to Headingley but play is due to start at 2.15pm. The Bears have won the toss and are batting.
WTS Porterfield, SR Hain, IJL Trott, IR Bell*, R Clarke, TR Ambrose†, LJ Evans, A Javid, JS Patel, CJC Wright, RO Gordon
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Yorks Team:
Lyth,Willey, Lees, Head, Leaning, Rhodes, Hodd, Plunkett, Rafiq, Patterson, Carver.
Reduced interval to keep 50 overs
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As we are a little late starting, details of other North Group matches:
Derby 5-0 2.2 v Leicester
Notts 19/0 3.1 v Worcs
Lancs v Durham Delayed raining
Us starting now, Porterfield facing first ball dot
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3/0 3 overs slow start
Porterfield 1
Hain 0
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Porterfield Ct Plunkett b Patterson 7
Hain 6
Trott in
16/1 7.1
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Seems to be slow going so far, after 10 overs we're scoring at just over 2 an over!
Guessing it is very overcast there.
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End of powerplay 10 overs Bears a wholesome 21/1
Only one worse score in powerplay this season Pears 19/6 at Edgbaston
34/1 11 overs
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Seems to be slow going so far, after 10 overs we're scoring at just over 2 an over!
Guessing it is very overcast there.
It is and there has been light drizzle which i think has relented now
39/1 12
Hain 10*
Trott 18*
It is still drizzling.
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40/2 12.5
Hain Ct Hodd b Plunkett 10
Trott 19*
Bell in
Average score batting first here since 2014 is 213 so may not be disastrous as we think.
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We might need to win convincingly to go through though, depending on results elsewhere.
Can't help but think we've fucked it against Lancs.
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75/2 20.2
Trott 38*
Bell 16*
Rate slowly improving
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92/3 23
Bell Ct Willey b Plunkett 21
Trott 50* (61) 5 x 4's
Ambrose in
get 50 partnership up and disaster, big wkt to lose.
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30 overs
124/3
Trott 70*
Ambrose 11*
Ambrose dropped by Carver off Rafiq in that last over. We just can't get the rate going on a very slow wicket.
131/3 31 Trott onto 75
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North scores:
Derby 125/4 32 v Leic
Notts 176/3 34.3 v Worc
Lancs v Durham still raining
Bears 140/3 33
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I think 230-240 is a par score on this wicket, it's very slow. I'm worried we'll drop a little short.
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9.1 overs left
182/3
Trott 100 (122)
Ambrse 32
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185/4 41.3
Ambrose Ct Rhodes b Rafiq 34
Trott 101*
Evans in
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Need a big innings from Evans, he's capable of scoring fast and if he can do that and see us through we could post a strong score still, I honestly think 250+ will be a very strong score on this.
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Need a big innings from Evans, he's capable of scoring fast and if he can do that and see us through we could post a strong score still, I honestly think 250+ will be a very strong score on this.
He is but a renown slow starter.
198/4 44
Trott 111 (130)
Evans 3 (8)
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215/5 45.1
Trott Ct Leaning b Patterson 118
Evans 5
Clarke in
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241/5 47
Evans 11
Clarke 17
Some momentum now
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250/6 47.5
Clarke Ct Lyth b Rafiq 18
Evans 19
Javid in
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250/6 47.5
Clarke Ct Lyth b Rafiq 18
Evans 19
Javid in
That was a close call for Lyth's catch. It looked like it bounced into his hands to me.
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I think that bounced into his hands for me, the side view is the one but because it's not zoomed in enough they've gone with the other one.
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Strong finish by the Bears, 103 coming from the final powerplay overs.
283 is a decent total on that pitch.
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Very happy with that target on a pitch with so little pace in it.
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I did to but c'est la vie!!!
283/6 50 104 in lat 10 overs
Evans 48 (30) 3 x 4 2 x 6
Javid 2
Must confess didn't think we would get that.
Notts 284/8 v Worc
Derby 260/6 v Leic
Lancs v Durham inspection 17:45
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It would be extremely disappointing if we were to lose this game now with Trott scoring a fine 118. You should never lose if someone posts a
century in first innings but we are prone to doing this, the last occasion when
Hain got 107 at Durham earlier this week where we posted 292.
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Lovely catch, Lyth was swinging a bit so getting him fairly cheap is a big bonus.
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26/2 6
Lees Run Out (Bell) 2
Willey 7
Head in
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Some terrible bowling from Clarke here has let them get a much better score than they should be on.
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Other scores as innings getting underway elsewhere:
Worc 31/1 5.5 chasing 285
Derby 260 Leicester 0/0 .2 Off for rain
Lancs 28/0 4 v Durham reduced to 24 overs per side
Yorks 38/2 8
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Powerplay 10 gone
47/2
We were 21/1
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We could do with getting Head out soon. The weather looks iffy and they're behind on DL. Head can very quickly get them back on track.
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Missed running out Willey. We could regret that. Poor from Wright.
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Doesn't help when Gordon bowls a decent over and goes for 14. First ball a bit too much width for Head. Next ball a good full delivery which Head hits hard into the floor bouncing over Gordons head and runs away for 4. a slower ball then induces inside edge which beats Ambrose. No luck whatsoever.
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Good captaincy by Bell in bringing the spinners on when the scoreboard pressure is on via DL.
The rain has started too.
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71/2 14
Pouring down off now with Yorkshire 12 behind on DLS
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Stopping already, covers coming off. Unfortunately coming back on
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Wicket right after the restart will stretch the DL target still further.
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71/3 14.2
Willey LBW Javid 27
Head 24*
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Stopping already, covers coming off. Unfortunately coming back on
Why is it unfortunate? Surely it's better to play a full game? No Bresnan so I wouldn't worry if I were you.
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Fantastic, exactly what we needed.
Willey gone.
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Off they go again......
Yorkshire now 36 behind on DL.
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Stopping already, covers coming off. Unfortunately coming back on
Why is it unfortunate? Surely it's better to play a full game? No Bresnan so I wouldn't worry if I were you.
To be fair we've taken a wicket so we shouldn't be complaining but it was still a heavy drizzle and they never should've restarted there.
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Willey not even reached the pavilion and we're off for rain.
2 balls and the wicket put Yorks 36 behind on DLS.
Something gone our way for a change.
It will be Leaning joining Head if we restart.
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Looking at those clouds I suspect they're off for a while here.
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Stopping already, covers coming off. Unfortunately coming back on
Why is it unfortunate? Surely it's better to play a full game? No Bresnan so I wouldn't worry if I were you.
To be fair we've taken a wicket so we shouldn't be complaining but it was still a heavy drizzle and they never should've restarted there.
I would normally agree with you Chris but being a selfish so and so all i'm interested in is qualifying for the Qtrs and at the moment we are on
9 points. What i'm afraid of is Head and in a short run chase he is well capable.
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Covers off again now
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Looking at those clouds I suspect they're off for a while here.
Would obviously not wish it for those who have paid to watch it, but would not be at all disappointed if they don't go out again tonight.
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I think this might be another short spell, there's loads of rain around still.
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49 overs target now 282 to win reduced by 2 run.
Off and running
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Only 1 other game in play
Worc 97/1 17.5 chasing 285
Yorks 77/3 16.1
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79/4 17
Leaning Ct Hain b Javid 3
Says Porterfield on TV
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Some poor fielding in the last few overs has cost two boundaries.
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I do like Tymal Mills on the Sky commentary. He's pretty good.
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So where are we here? A win and we're through?
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So where are we here? A win and we're through?
Yes but I have a feeling that it will be a tight finish.
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119/4 26
Head 51
Rhodes 17
The only game in play currently
120/5 26.3
Rhodes Ct Bell b Javid 17
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I think it said on TV earlier that to guarantee a home draw in qtrs Yorkshire must score 234 to safeguard their RR.
Currently 124/5 28
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Beautiful ball from Javid to get Head.
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He's bowled brilliantly.
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125/6 28.2
Head b Javid 53
A superb ball to dismiss their real threat. Plunkett can be destructive - we will see
Javid currently 4/32 off 8.2
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Beautiful ball from Javid to get Head.
yep, absolute beauty.
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125/6 28.2
Head b Javid 53
A superb ball to dismiss their real threat. Plunkett can be destructive - we will see
Javid currently 4/32 off 8.2
Plunkett can score quick runs but I'm not sure he can score big enough runs to get them the 150+ they need here.
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Was doom and gloom this afternoon after the opening overs but now we could get a home QF!
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Javid 10 0 42 4
Home QF realistically isn't gonna happen as much as i'd love it.
143/7 31.5
Hodd LBW Patel 14
Get the remaining 3 in double quick time and then maybe!!!!
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To be fair i don't think it really matters in cricket at county level who is home or away, bar the odd exception.
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144/8 32.3
Rafiq LBW Gordon 0To be fair i don't think it really matters in cricket at county level who is home or away, bar the odd exception.
It does to me i can get to Edgbaston much easier than wherever....and included in my membership!!!
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148/9 33.3
Plunkett
St Ambrose b Patel 13
If we fail to get home draw now i will be disappointed....i did not think possible....this Bears side full of surprises
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All out! YOOOOUUUUUU BEEEEEAAAARRRSSS!!!
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Very impressive performance. I presume we now get whoever finishes 3rd or 4th in the other group?
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167 all out 37.4
Patterson b Patel 7
Carver 12*
Well well
Bowling figures:
Clarke 6 0 41 0
Wright 5 1 12 1
Gordon 8 0 37 1
Patel 8.4 0 34 3
Javid 10 0 42 4
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Very impressive performance. I presume we now get whoever finishes 3rd or 4th in the other group?
3rd
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Bowled really well but that game was won in the last 12-13 overs of the bears innings where we took it from a decent looking 230-240 to a massive looking 283. They always looked under pressure to score quick runs and it meant Javid bowling straight became really dangerous.
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Well done, lads. Particularly pleased for Javid.
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Qtr Finals 17th & 18th August
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Great performance by Javid and Patel particularly in such damp conditions.
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Very impressive performance. I presume we now get whoever finishes 3rd or 4th in the other group?
3rd
Essex, Hamphire, Kent, Middlesex or Surrey then.
Would prefer Kent or Middlesex and Essex at a push. Don't fancy Hants or Surrey.
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Fair play to the Bears, A really impressive win which i did not think was possible the way we have been playing. To go to the league leaders and thrash them by 114 runs takes some doing .Credit to all the players,but special praise to Trott,Evans,Patel and Javid. Was also good to see that OHD was finally left out .
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Fair play to the Bears, A really impressive win which i did not think was possible the way we have been playing. To go to the league leaders and thrash them by 114 runs takes some doing .Credit to all the players,but special praise to Trott,Evans,Patel and Javid.
..........and then it all drops into place...
Was also good to see that OHD was finally left out .
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Qtr Finals 17th & 18th August
Guessing 2nd place finish means we will be at home.
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Yeah, at home to the third place team in the Southern Softy Group.
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Hoping to avoid Hampshire, as they always seem to do well against us.
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At Headingley yesterday, great all round display from the Bears in tricky overcast and damp conditions. The slow bowling of Javid and Patel was impressive but without Trott's century we would have been woefully short of runs. COYB!
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Of all the South Group Royal London Cup games taking place today only one has got underway, all others rain affected:
Hampshire v Somerset 19/0 4.5
Glouc v Essex
Middx v Surrey Further inspection 14:00
Sussex v Kent
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Sussex 3/1 2 v Kent now underway
Somerset 108/1 20.5
Middlesex v Surrey inspection at 15:30
Glouc v Essex Raining
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Latest scores:
Sussex 77/4 21 of 43 v Kent
Somerset 201/5 41 @ Hants
Still no play in other 2.
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Chopra is re-joining Essex on a three-year contract.
Laurie Evans is joining Northamptonshire on a months loan to play Championship Cricket. I don't know if that means he can come back for one day Cricket because he's an important member of the side, as we saw last night against Yorkshire. It's clear he wants to play more Championship Cricket so we do risk losing him. However with Bell, Trott and Hain ahead of him he's a long way from being a regular selection.
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Not exactly a surprise ref. Chopra but the Evans thing i think is an encouraging sign for him, that we as a club have faith in him and want to see him
get some championship runs, as who knows we could find Hain opening in championship next season. I rather hope thats not the case as i would rather Andy Umeed succeed.
I will be watching Northants scores a little more closely.
Also yes i believe Evans can come back and play for us in Royal London. A few players have done it, Luke Fletcher immediately comes to mind.
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Latest scores at close of innings in the 2 games being played:
Somerset 250/9 50 @ Hants
Sussex 182/8 43 v Kent
Who knows if other 2 going to get underway.
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Not exactly a surprise ref. Chopra but the Evans thing i think is an encouraging sign for him, that we as a club have faith in him and want to see him
get some championship runs, as who knows we could find Hain opening in championship next season. I rather hope thats not the case as i would rather Andy Umeed succeed.
I will be watching Northants scores a little more closely.
Also yes i believe Evans can come back and play for us in Royal London. A few players have done it, Luke Fletcher immediately comes to mind.
It could work the other way though PGW. He might decide that regular Championship Cricket at Northamptonshire's level is preferable to being a fringe Championship player at Edgbaston. He's a great limited overs player and Northants aren't a bad one day side so effectively his career moves forward.
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Not exactly a surprise ref. Chopra but the Evans thing i think is an encouraging sign for him, that we as a club have faith in him and want to see him
get some championship runs, as who knows we could find Hain opening in championship next season. I rather hope thats not the case as i would rather Andy Umeed succeed.
I will be watching Northants scores a little more closely.
Also yes i believe Evans can come back and play for us in Royal London. A few players have done it, Luke Fletcher immediately comes to mind.
It could work the other way though PGW. He might decide that regular Championship Cricket at Northamptonshire's level is preferable to being a fringe Championship player at Edgbaston. He's a great limited overs player and Northants aren't a bad one day side so effectively his career moves forward.
The financial mess Northants are in i don't think they could afford to offer him a contract even if we were willing to let him go.
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Latest scores: South Group
Hants 122/3 27.5 chasing 251 v Somerset
Middx 74/4 10.3 v Surrey 18 over match
Kent 115/2 20.1 chasing 183 v Sussex
Gloucester & Essex match abandoned 1 point each
Even had rain in West Indies where at lunch:
W.Indies 48/4 still 256 behind
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Looks likely to be Essex at the moment.
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Assuming Hamshire lose to Somerset, Hants currently 184/6 42 overs wipes Hants out the equation.
Essex currently lie 3rd and will remain so if Surrey win. Surrey require 102 runs off 16 overs to win.
If Middlesex should win they will go into 3rd pushing Essex to 4th.
So ACV with Aaron Finch and Jason Roy opening the innings for Surrey in what is basically a T20 match i'm
with you Essex for me. Wouldn't be too upset whoever we play.
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Then Roy goes first ball!!!
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Listening to Hampshire and they are going well and could overhaul Somerset.
As i say that Hants lose a wicket 225/8 47.4
26 off 14 if hadn't lost that wkt may have done it
26 off 12 now
Surrey meanwhile are 27/2 75 off 75 req'd
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Hampshire still in with a shout. If they win it will be them.
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24 off 10
24 off 9
20 off 8
As Surrey lose Rory Burns as well
74 off 72
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14 off 6 for Hants
14 off 5 wicket 237/9
13 off 4
11 off 3
8 off 2
6 off 1
Out i think on last ball Somerset win
Finch out for Surrey 67 off 61 req'd
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Thats it then Essex at home, prefer the Wed 17th than the Thursday but won't be fussy!!
As Surrey lose Foakes but i think they can manage 1 off 8 balls.
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Somerset v Worcester
Kent v Yorks
Norhants v Surrey
Bears v Essex
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It was good to see Hants get knocked out, anybody but them in the QF .Bit of surprise to see Evans go out on loan to Northants ,maybe we can do a swap at the end of the season for Ben Duckett ,we seem to be on good terms with them
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It was good to see Hants get knocked out, anybody but them in the QF .Bit of surprise to see Evans go out on loan to Northants ,maybe we can do a swap at the end of the season for Ben Duckett ,we seem to be on good terms with them
Which would be good on paper but, eventually, we will lose Duckett to England for most of the season.
I've said for some time that Sam Hain will play for England one day. Anybody agree?
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Somerset v Worcester
Kent v Yorks
Norhants v Surrey
Bears v Essex
Never mind, maybe The Bears will have better luck next season :)
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Wed 17th August 11:00
Somerset v Worc
Bears v Essex
Thur 18th Aug
Northants v Surrey 13:30
Kent v Yorks 14:00
I'm quite happy with that time, i personally prefer a day game to a day/night.
The way they appear to have set fixtures out, if we win we play winners of Somerset v Worcester on Sunday 28th August @ 10:30
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Wed 17th August 11:00
Somerset v Worc
Bears v Essex
Thur 18th Aug
Northants v Surrey 13:30
Kent v Yorks 14:00
I'm quite happy with that time, i personally prefer a day game to a day/night.
The way they appear to have set fixtures out, if we win we play winners of Somerset v Worcester on Sunday 28th August @ 10:30
Well we have a good record against both Somerset and Worcestershire, so certainly gives us a chance of getting to the final if we can beat Essex.
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What's the betting that Cook will be available for Essex,if so we should have Woakes available
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What's the betting that Cook will be available for Essex,if so we should have Woakes available
The test series will be over by then so Cook will be available. He's not been all that loyal to Essex in the same way that Bell was to the Bears when he was with England. When a series ends Cook seems to like to get away from Cricket. I'd be surprised if he plays.
If Woakes is in the one day squad then they might not let him play but in the past players have been released back to their counties for big one day games.
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It was good to see Hants get knocked out, anybody but them in the QF .Bit of surprise to see Evans go out on loan to Northants ,maybe we can do a swap at the end of the season for Ben Duckett ,we seem to be on good terms with them
Which would be good on paper but, eventually, we will lose Duckett to England for most of the season.
I've said for some time that Sam Hain will play for England one day. Anybody agree?
Yes he will.
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Tickets for qtr final are £10 for members £15 non-members - Free to U16's
www,edgbaston.com/tickets
or
08448471902
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www.edgbaston.com/tickets
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That's pretty good prices for a Quarter-final, I'd like to go after making the trip up to Headingley to see us hammer Yorkshire the other day, could be tricky for many with an 11AM start mid-week though.
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What's the betting that Cook will be available for Essex,if so we should have Woakes available
The test series will be over by then so Cook will be available. He's not been all that loyal to Essex in the same way that Bell was to the Bears when he was with England. When a series ends Cook seems to like to get away from Cricket. I'd be surprised if he plays.
If Woakes is in the one day squad then they might not let him play but in the past players have been released back to their counties for big one day games.
Essex don't need Cook to beat the Bears but I won't complain if he does play.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/scorecard/ECKO39847
Teams today up at Headigley. Yorkshire won toss and are batting.
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Yorks 7/0 3.2
Off for rain
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Cook or no Cook the Bears will be to good for Essex as they have the last couple of times we have met in white ball cricket
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Disappointed to see OHD is back in the side at Yorkshire ,Gordon deserved to keep his place
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35/1 15.3
Lees LBW Clarke 10
Lyth 20*
Head 5*
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As an aside Laurie Evans made 74 in Northants current total of 188/6 54.1 v Glamorgan
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57/2 21.4
Lyth Ct Ambrose b OHD 24
Head 23*
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So the bowler none of you wanted in the team has got the wicket of the form batsman then.
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So the bowler none of you wanted in the team has got the wicket of the form batsman then.
Always liked him....
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Lunch 62/2 24 overs
Lost approx 20 minutes when off for rain.
Head 25
Gale 3
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Other Div 1 Lunch scores
Hants 69/0 30 v Lancs
Surrey 125/3 @ Middx
Somerset 116/7 28 v Durham
and
Worc 211 @ Kent 152/3 48
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90/3 32.5
Gale Ct Ambrose b Barker 14
Head 40*
Leaning in
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111/4 38.1
Head Ct Umeed b Barker 54
FOW 109/4
Rashid 1*
Leaning 5*
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166/5 57
Bresnan 17*
Leaning 31*
Adil Rashid Ct Clarke b Patel 5 FOW 130/5
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So the bowler none of you wanted in the team has got the wicket of the form batsman then.
The form batsmen, Lyth? His last 6 scores have been below 40. He is always susceptible to getting out playing a flashy drive outside the off-stump, isn't a particularly tough nut to crack at all.
Bresnan has been the form batsman for Yorks lately surprisingly, plus that Head the young Aussie looks a good player.
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Tea or thereabouts other Div 1 scores
Hants 181/0 64 v Lancs Tea
Surrey 259/4 59.5 v Middx
Somerset 184 ao Durham 62/2 17.5
Wors 211 ao Kent 275/6 60
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190/6 70.2
Leaning Ct Clarke b Barker 42
Bresnan 26*
Hodd in
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199/7 75
Bresnan Ct Patel b OHD 28
Hodd 7*
Patterson in
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199/8 75.3
Hodd LBW Patel 7
Patterson 0
Brooks in
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204/9 78.1
Brooks b Barker 5
Patterson 0
Sidebottom 0
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One of those niggly pain in the arse partnerships taking place at Headingley where Yorkshire have moved on to:
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/946899.html
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Close of play:
252/9 96 overs
Patterson 35
Sidebottom 11
A frustrating 48 unbroken partnership for last wkt.
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Decent day for the Bears,but could have been so much better,i feel we have let them off the hook again like we have a couple of times in the last couple of seasons.
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Somerset were 0/3 off 7 balls this morning against Durham.
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Somerset were 0/3 off 7 balls this morning against Durham.
9/3 now, a lead of 4. If it was a Warwickshire or England match there would be comments along the lines of "we desperately need to break up this partnership or these two will take the game away from us."
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Bears are 4 down for 47....ffs come on you Bears !!
UTV
The Doc
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Bears are 4 down for 47....ffs come on you Bears !!
UTV
The Doc
Trott & Bell both out cheaply. However, Yorkshire 78/5, so match is in the balance. If we can chase under 200 and don't be reckless, we could pull off a win.
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Poor batting Clarke and Hain aside by the Bears. I know they are 78/5 but that is a lead of 156 already,i fear we will be chasing over 200 and that will be a tough ask for us.Have a feeling that last wicket stand of theirs will prove to be costly
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Chasing 228 to win. Umeed 0. ffs!
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14 for 3. Unless the pitch inspectors make an appearance, this has been a shambolic batting performance.
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14 for 3, Hain injured, the Bears will do well to reach 100 the way things are. Bell out for a duck after just one in the first innings, i think the captaincy has had a big effect on his batting as it did on the likes of Troughton and Chopra and i can see him giving it up at the end of the season.Sorry to see Umeed bag a pair,that probably means the return of Westwood
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What's wrong with Hain? Any chance of him batting?
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Damaged his shoulder or arm after colliding with the boundary,useless guys doing the reporting on line have no idea whats wrong with him and if he can bat.The WM guy,Cris Coles does not seem to know he was out most of last season with a shoulder injury,
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Thanks Pooligan for the update. Keep Hain away from the boundary as a fielder!
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95/3, Trott 50, 133 to win. We have a real chance now. Anyone know if Hain is available if we get close with 9 down?
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Fair play to Jason Gillespie the Yorkshire DOC, he was upset at some of the Yorkshire fans at laughing at Hain's injury and has had a right go at them. .Have followed the Bears all over the country and i can honestly say the yorkies are bar far the most biased and unsporting fans in the land Just like the Leeds fans up the road
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Pity Rikki & Tim out. But we still have Clarke and now Hain thankfully, so fit enough to bat. COYB!! Dig in!! We can still win this, although that last wicket stand yesterday will probably cost us!
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Clarke gone now,harsh decision to be given lbw, not getting the breaks are the Bears. That 50 odd last wicket stand we allowed them looks like it is going to bite us on the ass as i feared
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Yorkshire claimed the extra 8 overs 179/9 require 49
Hain 33
OHD 1
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180 all out
Hain Ct Lyth b Rashid 34
OHD 1*
Lost by 48 runs
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Bollocks!
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The Bears haven't got that winning mentality. Not ruthless enough at all. The top order is terrible; too much pressure on the middle and lower order. It could be down to finance and lack of investment in the squad, but it's glaringy obvious that the batting is weak at the top. What difference has Gooch made?
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Lost a signal as Trott and whoever were building a partnership. Just got it back to find out the result. Splendid.
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Fair play to Jason Gillespie the Yorkshire DOC, he was upset at some of the Yorkshire fans at laughing at Hain's injury and has had a right go at them. .Have followed the Bears all over the country and i can honestly say the yorkies are bar far the most biased and unsporting fans in the land Just like the Leeds fans up the road
Not having that, they attract the usual dickheads all cricket teams do when the sun is out, the beer is flowing and there isn't any football on. I've been at many matches where opposition players have been given warm round of applause when scoring centuries etc, granted I don't go to many one day games though where the idiots tend to be out in force.
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As predicted the 54 runs we let the last pair get in the first innings proved to be the difference. Trott,Ambrose,Hain and Clarke apart,the rest of the batting were pathetic and clueless again. Today was the 10th time this season the last 5 batsmen have scored more than the top 5 .Yorkshire were there for the taking but sadly we blew it. It did'nt help that everything the tykes appealed for ,they seem to get.The umpire Evans gave them SIX leg before's, must be near the record for a innings
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Maybe if the batsmen had got their bats to the ball they wouldn't have been successful with the appeals, just a thought!
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Yorkshire is the only ground i have been to and i have been to most ,where the whole crowd ,not just a few dickheads don't even applaud when a visiting player reaches a 50 or 100 or as like today, when the visitors reach a 100. Even at New Road they applaud I have nothing against Yorkshire they are just another county to me ,so i am not biased,so i stand by my words, just like the Leeds fans they are not nice fans
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By all accounts, Clarke got a nick to the ball that he was given out to leg before and Patel's stumping was very harsh .That was the opinion of the Yorkshire biased guys doing the reporting on line
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Yorkshire is the only ground i have been to and i have been to most ,where the whole crowd ,not just a few dickheads don't even applaud when a visiting player reaches a 50 or 100 or as like today, when the visitors reach a 100. Even at New Road they applaud I have nothing against Yorkshire they are just another county to me ,so i am not biased,so i stand by my words, just like the Leeds fans they are not nice fans
I know you're probably upset because Warwickshire lost but I must have been very lucky in the many, many years and matches at Headingley and the various outgrounds to have heard every single visiting player that scores a 50 or century applauded. With respect, you're talking complete bollocks.
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I knew when i voiced these opinions you Mr Jameson would be on.Are you a yorkie by any chance,it certainly sounds like it. So with respect, i think it is you who is talking bollocks. When i hear the guys on line remarking how the crowd never applauded our 100 or Trott's 50 i believe them,you were not even there!
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You only just worked out I'm a Yorkshireman?! You really are coming across as an incredibly bitter and sore loser! I wasn't there but I've spent most of my 54 years watching Yorkshire at Headingley, Scarborough, Hull, Sheffield, Middlesbrough and Harrogate and I have NEVER known an opposition player to not be applauded on reaching whatever landmark score. Even Lancashire players.
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Was never in doubt you were from Yorkshire,you sound just like Boycott or maybe Vaughan .Such a know all .I listened to the WHOLE game and i also listened to the game on Monday which by the way we WON Your lot were so biased it was untrue,just a thought,maybe your hearing or sight are not to good.You can spout all the bollocks you like about how wonderful your crowd are but as far as i am concerned the crowd at Headingley are the worst i have encountered and like you i have been following the Bears for over 50 years
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Bloody hell man, you sound like a child. "Know all"? *Insert laughing emoji thing here*
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Was never in doubt you were from Yorkshire,you sound just like Boycott or maybe Vaughan .Such a know all .I listened to the WHOLE game and i also listened to the game on Monday which by the way we WON Your lot were so biased it was untrue,just a thought,maybe your hearing or sight are not to good.You can spout all the bollocks you like about how wonderful your crowd are but as far as i am concerned the crowd at Headingley are the worst i have encountered and like you i have been following the Bears for over 50 years
This is quite possibly the most ridiculous post I've ever seen on H&V, congratulations!
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If anyone sounds like a child its bloody you. I voiced a opinion on the unsporting Headingley crowd .I knew it would upset you when you saw it,your so predictable. It sounds like your calling me a liar or making things up. You also find the need to be personal against me and sadly i have responded .You tykes are so self opinionated that your never wrong ,so lets agree to disagree as i am sure everyone on here is having a laugh
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Sorry but this is getting silly. You've slagged off specifically the fans of another county knowing that a supporter of that county posts on the thread regularly and that you knew it would upset him and followed up by regularly stereotyping anyone vaguely interested in cricket from Yorkshire.
I've never heard anyone else have a bad word to say about the fans at Yorkshire so I'm not sure how you've managed to form such a strong opinion of them like this.
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I voiced a opinion ,are you saying i am not allowed to. Your twisting things, i said when i posted my view that i expected Jameson to have a go,fair enough,he is a yorkie after all. .Where have i said everyone who follows Yorkshire is the same ? If you have never heard other people having a go at the Headingley crowd then i suggest you should get out and visit the place.Is'nt the Western terrace famous for the way the crowd act. Your right,it is getting silly and if you bothered to read my last post you would see that
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The post where you called all their fans self-opinionated and never wrong and called Chris a child for being a bit upset that you slagged him off (amongst others)? Was that supposed to be reconciliatory or to stop the disagreement? Seems a little bit like you're the one who is being a bit overly opinionated right now.
Oh and a right to an opinion doesn't mean other people can't think the way you're expressing it is aggressive or that it's ridiculous.
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Blimey I've never seen an argument on an H&V Cricket thread before.
Without endorsing either argument, all counties have their share of loud, boorish supporters. Some more than others, particularly at Edgbaston where some members are not slow in sharing their opinions to all and sundry beer or no beer.
What I would say is that genuine Cricket fans always acknowledge good performances by opposition players whether they're watching tests or championship Cricket. It's part of the beauty of the game and is one of the reasons I now prefer it to football.
In my experience the Yorkshire crowd is both knowledgeable and sporting but obviously there are exceptions to this.
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99% of the people who post on the Cricket threads are people I would happily spend a day watching the cricket with (I'd keep reassuring Paulwinchagain everything was going to be alright!), anybody who thinks that just because somebody is from Yorkshire must be an opinionated, obnoxious tosser like Boycott or Vaughan I would go out of my way to avoid. I love the cricket threads, but will tread carefully in future.
Although Boycott is generally correct!
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paul_e with respect you don't half spout a lot of drivel at times You should read my messages carefully before you poke your oar in, i never said ALL Yorkshire fans are self opinionated just some of them .Correct me if i am wrong but i am pretty sure you are the guy when i expressed a opinion some while back that Ali was a second rate spinner and did not deserve to be England's number one spinner ,you had to tell me how wrong i was. Enough said.
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Yorkshire is the only ground i have been to and i have been to most ,where the whole crowd ,not just a few dickheads don't even applaud when a visiting player reaches a 50 or 100
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i never said ALL Yorkshire fans are self opinionated just some of them
Sorry to drag this out but you've never met me but formed that opinion of me simply because I disagreed with you about your ridiculous claim that nobody acknowledges the feats of opposition players. There are dickheads at every sporting occasion, don't know if you've noticed but the Western Terrace doesn't exist any longer and isn't open for any of the County matches.
In your eyes are all southerners 'cockernee spivs', Scousers 'car thieves', Glaswegians 'drunks' etc?
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My god it was a general statement ,wish i had'nt bothered. It's obvious you CJ and the other one on here having a go at me are the sort of people who you can not argue with and have to have the last word. Well so be it,i will stand by MY opinion that Headingley compared to the rest of the cricket grounds i have been to is the most biased and unsporting I dont care what you or anyone else thinks or says that is MY opinion and i stand by it .
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Oh by the way if the Western Terrace does not exist anymore,maybe you should inform the Yorkshire guy (who i like by the way) doing the online reporting about it as he mentioned it a few times during the match
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It hasn't been called the Western Terrace for a while, they pulled it down, rebuilt it and it isn't open for Championship matches whatever the commentator says.
Heroes and Villains, we discuss things on here in case you hadn't noticed Mr Ligan.
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paul_e with respect you don't half spout a lot of drivel at times You should read my messages carefully before you poke your oar in, i never said ALL Yorkshire fans are self opinionated just some of them .Correct me if i am wrong but i am pretty sure you are the guy when i expressed a opinion some while back that Ali was a second rate spinner and did not deserve to be England's number one spinner ,you had to tell me how wrong i was. Enough said.
I spout drivel? I'm just fed up of you ruining this thread all summer. You've done nothing but complain about Bears players (OHD mainly but you were giving Javid and Gordon a hard time until about a week ago when both of them had a few decent performances) and now oyu've topped it off by insulting the entire fanbase of another county and the fan of that county on here. Yes you were probably angry over the match we'd just lost but there's no need to be outright rude on a thread where, generally, people from all counties can post without arguments.
I don't recall us ever having that discussion but what I will say is that when you have the best opening bowlers in the world and a 3rd seamer who has a golden arm the main job of your spinner goes from being a match winner to being a partnership breaker and in that particular aspecr Mo has been successful. Without wanting to derail the thread any more the England bowling attack, especiailly now Woakes has found his feet, is the best in the world, and Mo is part of that and has done nothing to deserve being dropped so I'm not sure why you'd even bring it up as someway to to show you've got the better of me when pretty much all the evidence supports him being our main spinner but with a debate of whether we could afford to add another at times. Maybe you wanted to give us all another example of where you'd been wrong I guess.
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Can you all please stop the bickering? Cricket is a very silly game anyway.
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Can you all please stop the bickering? Cricket is a very silly game anyway.
Oh David....coming out with a quote like that you will have a row on your hands...lol
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Can you all please stop the bickering? Cricket is a very silly game anyway.
Call cricket silly again sir and my next article for you will be all about Villa players who also played cricket. So there.
It's only silly when I get out to the inevitable dodgy umpiring decision.
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Can you all please stop the bickering? Cricket is a very silly game anyway.
What on earth is silly about a bloke hurling a piece of leather at a bloke wielding a piece of willow?
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You've really done it now Woodhall.
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Having lost Travis Head as he's been called up by Australia for the one day series, Yorkshire have signed Jake Lehmann for the rest of the season. He can only play in the Championship but if he's half as good as his dad was then he's a great signing.
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Having lost Travis Head as he's been called up by Australia for the one day series, Yorkshire have signed Jake Lehmann for the rest of the season. He can only play in the Championship but if he's half as good as his dad was then he's a great signing.
But that is the question...Is he half as good as his dad???
I seem to recall him in the Big Bash but thats all.....Adelaide Strikers!!!
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Gillespie rates him so that's good enough for me! Head will be a big miss in the hit and run.
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Bristolshire v Durham in the third T20 QF tonight.
I did ponder going but watching on TV means that I can flick back and forth with whatever debacle is unfolding at Luton
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I think you will find the correct county name is Cheltenhamshire. We just play games in Bristol to bring a little culture to the uncouth peasants!
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I'm glad that I didn't watch much of the cricket last night, deciding instead to suffer the Villa
However, I see that my prediction of a debacle proved correct
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I think you will find the correct county name is Cheltenhamshire. We just play games in Bristol to bring a little culture to the uncouth peasants!
At least they play the correct side of the Avon
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Collingwood's half over from last night
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/37041536
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Finals day sold out now according to club website today.
Yorkshire 146/5 14 v Glamorgan
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Looks like it's an all northern finals. Glamorgan 38/6 off 8.4 chasing 181.
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Yorkshire win by 90 runs, really like the look of the young pace bowler Waite, first time I've seen him.
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Yorkshire v Durham
Notts v Northants
The draw for finals day. Not necessarily played in that order.
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There is so much sport going on at the moment it's hard to keep up but Surrey 252 all out, Jeetan should come into his own at this stage of the season and propel us to within reach of the title.
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And we still haven't won a toss all season. Chopra only won 4 last season.
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And we still haven't won a toss all season. Chopra only won 4 last season.
How many tosses has there been this season since the new rules were introduced?
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we are in our 12th game, we have had an uncontested toss in 4 of those so its 8 times we have lost. 4 from 16 last year, so we have won the toss 4 times out of the last 24
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I thought Evans was on loan at Northants???
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we are in our 12th game, we have had an uncontested toss in 4 of those so its 8 times we have lost. 4 from 16 last year, so we have won the toss 4 times out of the last 24
Thanks, that's an outrageous stat.
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I thought Evans was on loan at Northants???
Called him back due to Hain's injury.
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I thought Evans was on loan at Northants???
Called him back due to Hain's injury.
Thanks PGW
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this is Bells take on the toss
"With regard to tosses, I've given up on them! Hopefully it will change at some point but it's certainly not helping us. I'll have to work on the technique over the winter and see if I can come back a bit better next season."
To put it in perspective Yorkshire won 11 out of 16 last year and won the title
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Westwood still has a star next to his score after 8 overs which is some achievement for him this season.
It's ashame that score is zero but small steps and all that.
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Westwood got 45!!!
Must be an absolute road
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134/6. Another batting failure. Seriously need new blood in the batting department in the close season before next April.
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Very good recovery from Bell and Barker by the look of it, stand of 83 with a 50 for Barker.
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I knew I shouldn't have said anything, Bell and Barker both gone in the space of 10 balls and we're 204-8.
After we went 99-3 to 101-6 I reckon you'd be pretty happy with that though.
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247 all out. So it's down to a single innings each now.
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Credit where it's due that's a fantastic recovery.
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Credit where it's due that's a fantastic recovery.
Barker to the rescue yet again. At least a draw seems unlikely now which is a relief.
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Patel into the attack in the 3rd over.
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Chris Woakes available for Wednesday.
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Root, Bairstow and Ballance are able to play in the one dayer and T20, would rather have them for the Championship.
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Only taken one wicket this morning, OHD got Burns out LBW. Surrey are 112-2 at lunch.
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Surrey 112 for 2 at lunch. OHD took the wicket and was the most effective bowler of the session, generating swing into the left hander from the Pavilion end. Wasn't doing much for Patel, which is worrying.
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250-4 at tea. Unless something miraculous happens in the evening session the game is slipping away from us.
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Two quick wickets after tea, with both Roy and Sangakkara gone. 264-6, lead of 269.
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A 7th wicket stand of 102 in 17 overs from Davis & Curran has took the game away from us. Surrey 390 all out with the Bears facing a tricky few overs tonight. There's no way we will get anywhere near that total and on current form will struggle to get a draw. Especially as we're 1-1, Westwood is back in the pavilion.
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2-1 at stumps, only 394 more runs needed......
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Very bad day for the Bears. The wicket was not doing very much at all as we have all got well used to by now, and the conditions conducive to swing for the two previous days were absent.
I was wandering what the hell Surrey were up to not declaring much earlier as I could not see them bowling us out in 3 sessions on that strip.
Of course, Westy fell to an unlikely inswinger from one of the Curran brothers in their first of 2 allotted overs and put the cat among the pigeons. Now, I think we will lose but it will drag an for the most of the day to make my trip across the city to VP more stressful. That is how these things work.
Some members are now saying relegation is a possibility, and I thought we were in contention for the championship. Oh well.
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Batting is weak. Can't see us batting out a draw.
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Chopra out trying to hook a bouncer. He had already run Wright out
48/3. Bell and Trott at the crease.
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Bell in trouble having been struck amidships by Foottit in a cruel blow which will no doubt blight his efficiency.
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Trott caught behind after being softened up by 3 short balls from Meeker. 52/4. The jig is up.
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72/4 at lunch. Spinners have been on and Batty is getting a lot of turn causing Bell numerous problems.
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77/5
Evans b Ansari 9
I left at lunch sensing it wouldn't be too long....5th gone 2nd over after lunch.
Got to get myself in right frame of mind for tonight!!!!
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Bell Ct Burns b Batty 32
111/6
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Batting is weak. Can't see us batting out a draw.
How predictable. Top order shite again relying on the lower middle order to rescue the innings, but we'll be bowled out and lose.
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4 balls from Tea and Rikki plays onto Sam Curran 17
So at Tea 142/7
Disappointing....better be better tomorrow....charging us members!!!
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4 balls from Tea and Rikki plays onto Sam Curran 17
So at Tea 142/7
Disappointing....better be better tomorrow....charging us members!!!
They are not charging the Skyline members, I have just learned.
Very dispointing from Rikki.
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4 balls from Tea and Rikki plays onto Sam Curran 17
So at Tea 142/7
Disappointing....better be better tomorrow....charging us members!!!
They are not charging the Skyline members, I have just learned.
Very dispointing from Rikki.
Didn't know that...i.m not a Sky Line member anyway. Bought my ticket the other day....weather set fair...be there nice and early for a sausage and a bacon bap for breakfast.
Then dependant where wicket is get out in the sun...blocks 9 or 10 hopefully.
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169 all out. So predictable. Brown needs to go. Fresh ideas and new signings needed. This could be a relegation scrap.
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A wretched performance. If we do not build some kind of momentum tomorrow I can see us sliding into trouble.
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Just learned that Rankin has banjaxed the left tibia and is out for the rest of the season.
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Not good news on Rankin. How long is Hain out for? At least Woakes is back for the cup game today.
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Just seen a 'catch' that was taken by a Lancashire player to dismiss Hodd. Hope the ECB take action, most blatant piece of cheating I've ever seen by a cricketer.
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Just seen a 'catch' that was taken by a Lancashire player to dismiss Hodd. Hope the ECB take action, most blatant piece of cheating I've ever seen by a cricketer.
Is there a link to that Chris? I'd like to see it.
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The Bears quarter final is on Five Live Sports Extra from 10.45.
As good as Clive Eakin is, I hope that they do get a couple of the main commentators from the TMS team in alongside him. The county commentaries are informative but do get a little staid at times!
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Just seen a 'catch' that was taken by a Lancashire player to dismiss Hodd. Hope the ECB take action, most blatant piece of cheating I've ever seen by a cricketer.
Is there a link to that Chris? I'd like to see it.
If you have Twitter, take a look at @timbresnan, somebody sent him a video link. Evidently the guy claimed a catch last year at Headingley that was very doubtful too.
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Just watched it again, even if they were playing one hand, one bounce it wouldn't have been a catch.
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Just seen a 'catch' that was taken by a Lancashire player to dismiss Hodd. Hope the ECB take action, most blatant piece of cheating I've ever seen by a cricketer.
Is there a link to that Chris? I'd like to see it.
If you have Twitter, take a look at @timbresnan, somebody sent him a video link. Evidently the guy claimed a catch last year at Headingley that was very doubtful too.
Thanks, what a dubious catch. In a high profile game like a Roses match you can understand why he tried it on but really video evidence should be available. There are that many analysts attached to county squads these days, every ball is filmed.
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It didn't alter the course of the match but if a Yorkshire player tried to claim that id be embarrassed, it's not even one of those where the fielder can't be certain whether they caught it cleanly!
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The Bears are playing three spinners and they're using the pitch that they used in the test match. We won the toss and are batting.
SR Hain, IJL Trott, IR Bell*, LJ Evans, TR Ambrose†, CR Woakes, R Clarke, A Javid, JS Patel, CJC Wright, JE Poysden
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Pears on sky with Mo back in the side, hopefully he will be that extra experienced head in the batting order that we have been lacking for a couple of months - Kohler-Cadmore hasn't been able to buy a run in red ball last 2-3 games (or white ball today!!) but when the option is Kervezee who has flattered to deceive for years it's great to see Mo!
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Just seen a 'catch' that was taken by a Lancashire player to dismiss Hodd. Hope the ECB take action, most blatant piece of cheating I've ever seen by a cricketer.
Wow! Looks decidedly iffy
Angles were better than those for Hales dismissal in test
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That 'catch' really is a shocker, the guy should be ashamed of himself.
Good to see that whatever kept Hain out was only a short term thing and he was fit to play today. Unfortunately he's gone for 18 in the 8th with bears 41/1
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Bell gone for a duck.
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Sky might be looking for 'classics' to show this afternoon, the dominoes have started to fall again!
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210 ao - just the 100 or so short :-(
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After Trott got his ton, Woakes went for 4 then Clarke for a duck. 235 for 6. We have bottled it, I reckon.
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Woakes out for 4. Disappointing. 235/5. Down to Laurie & Rikki now in last 5 overs. Come on you Bears!!
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After Trott got his ton, Woakes went for 4 then Clarke for a duck. 235 for 6. We have bottled it, I reckon.
Agree - familiar collapse that's happened for most of the season. Similar to Villa at failing late in the game!
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this is a bit frustrating, looked on for a 300+ total but since Trott went they've taken regular enough wickets to kill our momentum. Good knock from Evans though which means 280+ looks likely which is still a good total to defend.
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Got Ryder, Bopara and Mickleburgh pretty cheaply to have them at 112/4 after 23. If we can get rid of the other opener I think they'll struggle to get back into this, the spinners have done all the damage so picking all 3 looks like a good decision right now.
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ten Doeschate in now, he always seems to do well against us.
Otherwise they still have Napier to come and he can do some damage with the bat.
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Good, should win from here then hopefully into the semis.
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ten Doeschate in now, he always seems to do well against us.
Otherwise they still have Napier to come and he can do some damage with the bat.
Napier is only really a threat if they get him in with less than about 70-80 to get, much more than that and he's like to hole out going for a big hit too many. This partnership is their key to getting anywhere near us I reckon.
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167 - 7 according to the beeb
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We won. Easy.
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Warwickshire will now be at home to Somerset - who beat Worcestershire by nine wickets - on 28 or 29 August
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Brilliant! Our spinners wreaked havoc at the right time. Just what we needed.
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Keep that pitch for the semi final please groundsman!
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Decent finish in the Kent v Yorkshire QF.
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Decent finish in the Kent v Yorkshire QF.
I've been constantly refreshing the BBC scores update this evening, I was convinced we were going to lose that. Felt it was a little unfair on Jack Leaning and Andrew Hodd losing their places, they've both played their parts in getting us this far, surprised to see Ballance straight back in the side.
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Warwickshire County Cricket Club’s Royal London One-Day Cup semi-final against Somerset will take place at 11am on Monday 29 August.
Tickets will go on-sale at 10am on Friday 19 August, priced exactly the same as the quarter final with Warwickshire Members and T20 Season Pass holders and Somerset Members paying £10, general admission adults priced at £15 and free for under 16s.
Members and supporters will be able to purchase tickets from www.edgbaston.com/tickets, by calling the Ticket Hotline on 0844 847 1902 or from the Shop at Edgbaston.
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Let's hope we keep up our good record against Somerset
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I was hoping to get the Sunday fixture for the sake of the club, but it should be a great game with a big attendance.
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It's a Bank Holiday on the Monday so still a chance of a great crowd if we get the weather.
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Am going to Finals Day tomorrow - anyone know what's in place if it rains all day !?
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Evidently Liam Plunkett got non stop abuse yesterday from a bunch of pissed Kent supporters and the stewards ignored it.
Man of the Match? Liam Plunkett. Well done morons, got him fired up nicely.
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Am going to Finals Day tomorrow - anyone know what's in place if it rains all day !?
These usually plenty going on particularly down the City end,sorry must be politically correct the Birmingham end, plenty of bars and places to eat (expensive) but there will
be various sidestalls where things are 'happening'....such as photo opportunities with cricket celebs or maybe even the trophy....which are free.
If in Block 9 u are able to use the Heath bar which u can access from in the stand area through the patio doors. If anywhere near you can always try and blag your way in!!!
Enjoy the day!!!
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Notts strengthened their line up for tomorrow.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/37119448
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Am going to Finals Day tomorrow - anyone know what's in place if it rains all day !?
These usually plenty going on particularly down the City end,sorry must be politically correct the Birmingham end, plenty of bars and places to eat (expensive) but there will
be various sidestalls where things are 'happening'....such as photo opportunities with cricket celebs or maybe even the trophy....which are free.
If in Block 9 u are able to use the Heath bar which u can access from in the stand area through the patio doors. If anywhere near you can always try and blag your way in!!!
Enjoy the day!!!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/37118143
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Thanks PGW and I believe there is a reserve day in case all of tomorrow is washed out.
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Bumped into this young man earlier:
https://mobile.twitter.com/barriercovers/status/766703080406646785/photo/1
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Brilliant knock from Duckett in the T20 he's 80 from 45 with 5 overs left. Northants 131/3
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Yeah its been awesome from Duckett.
He really should have been in the ODI squad
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Yeah its been awesome from Duckett.
He really should have been in the ODI squad
Yeah, think that might be a mistake.
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Only saw a bit of the hit and run yesterday, it was a load of people in fancy dress singing along to YMCA with moronic 'commentary' from Shane Warne and David Lloyd. Panto season started early.
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warwickshireccc.com (http://warwickshireccc.com/news/preview-durham-v-warwickshire-specsavers-county-championship/?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=SocialSignIn&utm_source=Facebook)
Preview: Durham v Warwickshire, Specsavers County Championship
Brian Halford @brainhaldorf
Director of Cricket Dougie Brown is calling on his Warwickshire team to blow hot in the final quarter of the Specsavers County Championship season and finish in the prize-money places in Division One.
Successive defeats to Yorkshire and Surrey have effectively knocked the Bears out of the title race and, in a very tight First Division table, left them needing probably one more win from their last four games to be sure of staying up.
Ahead of tomorrow's visit to Durham, the Bears are 13 points below second place and 17 above the relegation zone. A strong finish could see them end as runners-up. A weak one could see them relegated.
It's all to play for, then, against Durham at the Riverside and then against Middlesex (home), Somerset (at Taunton) and Lancashire (home).
"The season is still ours to shape," said Brown. "If we play the four games badly then we will be in a scrap but if we play well we could quite easily finish first, second, third or fourth. There is a lot to play for.
"We know we are in a proper fight but we if we finish well, which we have traditionally done over the years, the season could still finish very favourably for us. We weren't looking anxiously at the table when we were in the top half of it and we are not looking anxiously at it now we are in a bit of a scrap. We just have to concentrate in what we do."
After a disappointing end to last season's championship campaign, the Bears need to reboot quickly to avert worries of a similar fade-out this time following inconsistent performances, particularly with the bat, away to Yorkshire and at home to Surrey.
"We had a long chat at the end of the Surrey game and a lot of people spoke up, which was great to see," Brown said. "We know there are things to address. As a batting side we haven't been consistent enough. The batters have spoken about that.
"So let's make sure we are consistent with our practice and our preparation and challenge ourselves hard in practice to make sure that when we come to games it is a bit easier.
"We just need to be better in key parts of games. We need to bat better and identify key moments, as a team, and be brave enough to take the next step and be more ruthless in games which we probably haven't been often enough this season."
Warwickshire Squad
Ian Bell (Captain)
Tim Ambrose (Wicket-Keeper)
Keith Barker
Varun Chopra
Rikki Clarke
Laurie Evans
Sam Hain
Oliver Hannon-Dalby
George Panayi
Jeetan Patel
Jonathan Trott
Ian Westwood
Chris Wright
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Yorkshire going well against Notts, 51/6.
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Decent going so far for Warks; Durham 81/4.
They'll probably get 100 runs with the last partnership and end up with about 300 runs though. Seems to be going that was recently in the County Championship.
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Decent going so far for Warks; Durham 81/4.
They'll probably get 100 runs with the last partnership and end up with about 300 runs though. Seems to be going that was recently in the County Championship.
Your prediction is on, Durham are 178-8. The agony starts at the fall of the 9th wicket. The apathy will last until the start of next season.
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Hodd, Rafiq and Brooks have got Yorkshire up to 276/8, brilliant effort from the tail.
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Durham all out for 207. 5 wickets for Patel, 3 for Barker.
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Puts us in a pretty good position, could really do with a win.
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79/2. Westwood 41*.
He's going to end the season with a better average than Bell at this rate.
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Notts 94 all out. Strange decision not to enforce the follow on but wonder if the fact it's the Scarborough Festival which guarantees big crowds for all four days has anything to do with it, every chance the game could have been over in two days. Surely not?
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Bears 233/3 at Tea; Westwood 106* and Bell 35*, giving us a lead of 26 runs.
Bears have noticeably upped the run rate over the last 10 overs. Should hopefully be able to get to 350 before the 110 over mark, I make it that we would need to score at 3.44 runs an over to do that. Less than 2 an over to get to 300 in that time.
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Upper order making a much better effort. Well done to Westwood (about time). Should get into a winning position for once....Need the points big time!
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Stumps - Day 2
Durham 207
Warwickshire 315/7 (108.0 ov)
Warwickshire lead by 108 runs with 3 wickets remaining in the 1st innings
Westwood scored 127.
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No play before lunch on day three.
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Fucking typical. There's never a cloud in the sky when we are getting battered.
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Fucking typical. There's never a cloud in the sky when we are getting battered.
Play due to start at 1.45pm
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Fucking typical. There's never a cloud in the sky when we are getting battered.
Exactly what I thought! The first time in ages we've got into a winning position and the heavens open!!
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Barker and Ambrose have ticked away nicely so far, but think they're off for bad light now.
Over a 50 partnership and Bears 344/7, with a lead of 137 runs.
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Forecast good tomorrow so hope they thrash a quick 50 or so then have time to skittle Durham.
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Forecast good tomorrow so hope they thrash a quick 50 or so then have time to skittle Durham.
I'd declare overnight and have more time to bowl them out. Too much time has been lost to bat on.
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BBC Sport (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/37186788)
Warwickshire v Lancashire: Bears plan to stage day/night Championship match
Warwickshire are hoping to make this season's final County Championship home fixture a day/night match.
The match against Lancashire, scheduled for 20 September, has been earmarked following a successful day/night trial in this week's Second XI home game with Worcestershire at Edgbaston.
Day/night Championship cricket was first experimented with when Kent hosted Glamorgan in 2011.
Just as then, the Lancashire game would have to have nothing riding on it.
If either of the two Division One sides were still battling against relegation, or competing for serious prize money, then switching to day/night hours would not receive approval from the England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB).
If it does take place, it would the first time it has happened in English cricket's top flight, the Kent-Glamorgan game at Canterbury having been in Division Two.
The future of day/night cricket, especially at Test level, remains on the long-term ECB agenda, especially given the success of the third Test between Australia and New Zealand at Adelaide in front of record-breaking crowds in November 2015.
The first game to be played in England with a pink ball was at Lord's in April 2008, when the MCC beat Scotland in a 50-over game.
The ECB verdict on the latest day/night experiment
Alan Fordham, head of cricket operations, was one of a host of ECB officials who attended Edgbaston over the course of the three days:
"For me, much of this is about the cricket ball. We want to try to get to a cricket ball that produces a game of cricket that is as similar as possible to when we are using a red ball in the longer form of the game.
"It's one step at a time really. I'm hoping that the modern cricketer will look at this and think this is something we're pleased to be a part of because it's about making the game as accessible as possible.
"Cricket has changed enormously in the last 15 to 20 years, and I see this as something that could certainly play a decent part in the future."
The Edgbaston view on a possible day/night Test
Neil Snowball, Warwickshire chief executive, has a long-term vision to host a day/night Test at Edgbaston:
"First of all we wanted to see how the ball behaves under the lights here, and also how visible it is, particularly later on when we get into the proper darkness. We also wanted to see how it works with the dew.
"We've been working closely with the ECB and the MCC who have been pioneers with the pink ball. We like being involved in innovation here at Edgbaston. We had the first county day/night game here in 1997. Who knows, it might happen."
Dressing room view on pink balls
William Porterfield captained Warwickshire in the three-day Second XI Championship draw against Worcestershire:
"There's been a bit of talk about visibility but it was all fine. It swung a little bit, but it hasn't behaved too dissimilarly to what a regulation Dukes ball does.
"A day/night Test at Edgbaston? I don't see why not. You might need to bring a coat for the last session. But apart from that, I think it's going to be pretty good. Whatever's going to draw the crowds in. If it's going to mean getting more exciting games, then I'm all for it."
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Wrong move in my opinion to carry on batting this morning. Should've declared straightaway and put them in. We might only need to chase a small total anyway. Bloody weather!!
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Can anyone explain why they lost about three hours for bad light at a test ground that has floodlights? County cricket shows time and again that it has no interest in the fans whatsoever.
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Wrong move in my opinion to carry on batting this morning. Should've declared straightaway and put them in. We might only need to chase a small total anyway. Bloody weather!!
Probably to do with the roller I'd have thought. Declared now so lead of 174 with the best part of a day to try to bowl them out. Will be tight but losing almost an entire day is always going to make it tough to get a positive result.
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1 down, need another before lunch I think.
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Yorkshire beaten Notts by 305 runs, looks like they are going down.
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Warwicks could have really done with a win in this game to ease any relegation fears but a draw will keep us in the mix going into the last 3 games.
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Worcester require 86 from 16 overs with 5 wickets remaining having been set 401 for victory.
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Worcester require 86 from 16 overs with 5 wickets remaining having been set 401 for victory.
Down to 63 from 13 now.
Daryl Mitchell scored 213 in his 2 innings for once out
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Good win for Worcester, two matches went down to the final two overs today.
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Annoying for the Bears that we lost 90% of the 3rd day. I think we'd have won with more time.
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I'm at Headingley.
The entire ground applauded Sangakkara as he walked to the crease.
Just saying.
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I'm at Headingley.
The entire ground applauded Sangakkara as he walked to the crease.
Just saying.
Aha! Clearly the ground full of Surrey supporters!
Cough
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I'm at Headingley.
The entire ground applauded Sangakkara as he walked to the crease.
Just saying.
Aha! Clearly the ground full of Surrey supporters!
Cough
And then applauded him back to the pavilion three balls later!
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I was about to post that it was a shame they couldn't arrange these games away from the internationals, but clearly Yorkshire doing OK without the other lot!
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Third wicket partnership of 50 warmly applauded.
Just saying.
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Steve Davies is warmly applauded by all sides of the ground as he reaches his 50.
Just saying.
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Trying to spot Chris in the crowd...has he come as Wonder Woman, Elvis, or the giant parrot? :)
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Foakes brings up his fifty.
Warmly applauded by all inside the ground.
Just saying.
100 partnership, warmly etc
Funny how people only wear fancy dress when the cameras are here. I'm Batman by the way Nick.
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Davies goes to his hundred and is met by complete silence. Of course it isn't.
Surrey will win this.
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Davies warmly applauded by all sides of the ground as he walks back to the pavilion having made an excellent hundred.
Think I've made my point now but he probably isn't listening/reading.
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In case Warwick make the Final, I think I'm supporting Surrey in this first Semi, sorry Chris.
Yorkshire would be more formidable opponents, especially if their England players were allowed to play.
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In case Warwick make the Final, I think I'm supporting Surrey in this first Semi, sorry Chris.
Yorkshire would be more formidable opponents, especially if their England players were allowed to play.
I just hope we get our England player back given he's probably the form player in world cricket right now.
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In case Warwick make the Final, I think I'm supporting Surrey in this first Semi, sorry Chris.
Yorkshire would be more formidable opponents, especially if their England players were allowed to play.
It doesn't make sense to have the semi final of the one day tournament clash with a ODI series, the natural pessimist in me thinks Surrey will win this, the batting looks considerably weaker without Willey, Plunkett, Rashid and of course Head now he's gone. Seems unfair we can't play Lehmann especially as we've lost so many to England.
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Couple of Surrey supporters sat near me, neither of them applauded the Yorkshire 50. Therefore all people from Surrey must be complete bastards.
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Couple of Surrey supporters sat near me, neither of them applauded the Yorkshire 50. Therefore all people from Surrey must be complete bastards.
Seems fair to me; I know 1 person who supports surrey who's definitely a bastard so what more evidence do you need?
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Couple of Surrey supporters sat near me, neither of them applauded the Yorkshire 50. Therefore all people from Surrey must be complete bastards.
Seems fair to me; I know 1 person who supports surrey who's definitely a bastard so what more evidence do you need?
Does he amend their players names to 'Batts', 'Meaks', 'Derns' etc? If so he's sat near me.
All Yorkshire supporters are self opinionated tossers.I know this because somebody who was a black cab driver told me.
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Couple of Surrey supporters sat near me, neither of them applauded the Yorkshire 50. Therefore all people from Surrey must be complete bastards.
Seems fair to me; I know 1 person who supports surrey who's definitely a bastard so what more evidence do you need?
Does he amend their players names to 'Batts', 'Meaks', 'Derns' etc? If so he's sat near me.
All Yorkshire supporters are self opinionated tossers.I know this because somebody who was a black cab driver told me.
No idea, I used to avoid talking to him about sport because he supported Chelsea so I just assumed he was a moron, also he's definitely not there because he moved to Malaysia last summer.
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Tense!
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I think if Yorkshire avoid losing wickets, they win.
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Tense!
Or not.
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Surrey 255/7 (50.0 ov)
Yorkshire 236 (48.5 ov)
Surrey won by 19 runs
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Does anyone know if you can take booze in to Edgbaston tomorrow?
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Does anyone know if you can take booze in to Edgbaston tomorrow?
This is off their website
No, due to our Ground Regulations we are unable to let spectators bring alcohol into the Stadium. However there are a wide variety of outlets around the stadium serving everything from real ale to cocktails.
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A bit late but I have a spare ticket (complementary) for tomorrow. If anyone wants it PM me I will be at the ground at 11am for collection.
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Does anyone know if you can take booze in to Edgbaston tomorrow?
This is off their website
No, due to our Ground Regulations we are unable to let spectators bring alcohol into the Stadium. However there are a wide variety of outlets around the stadium serving everything from real ale to cocktails.
They check bags at the T20 these days, but they were not checking during the semi final, at the side entrance anyway.
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Cheers. I thought you were OK to take drinks in to County and 50 over games.
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C'mon then Trott. Murder 'em.
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Jason Gillespie leaving Yorkshire at the end of the season. He's been brilliant for Yorkshire and helped turn several players into greatplayers for England. Wish him all the best for the future.
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Can't argue with his huge impact on Yorkshire and individual players. Seems like a nice guy whenever he's been interviewed too. Tough act to follow.
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Decent start this. I don't have huge faith in our bowling attack so would like 300, pretty please.
Incidentally I heard a rumour that Moeen Ali maybe joining the Bears. This is only via my dad's taxi driver so may not be watertight ITK.
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I can remember Gillespie getting dog's abuse at the Rose Bowl in 2005, for the inaugural Twenty twenty game V England. Lot's of 'Gypo Gypo' and 'Where's your Caravan' as he ran in with his long hair flowing.
A very determined player who seems to make coaching look easy!
He'll be a huge asset for whoever gets him.
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Erm....
We may need to up the scoring rate at some point lads. There's only 3 overs left now
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Would've liked to have kicked on and got a really big score, but if we can take an early wicket or two we have a great chance.
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Would've liked to have kicked on and got a really big score, but if we can take an early wicket or two we have a great chance.
After those couple of sixes off RVdM, I thought Bell was going to easily reach 100 but he struggled to middle the ball after that
Is Tresco injured or doesn't he play 50 Over games any more ?
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Needed that wicket.
COYB.
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OHD has bowled well today and we needed that wicket - I was starting to worry.
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Jeets has been O/S...........5 wickets and all LBW
COYB !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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you bears
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Brilliant stuff. You Bears!
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Great win! Woakes will be available for Lord's. Wright was a bit expensive. OHD did well with some good yorkers, Jeets was excellent with 5 LBW's and a deserved man-of-the-match.
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Do we know where Barker was today????
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Would've liked to have kicked on and got a really big score, but if we can take an early wicket or two we have a great chance.
Is Tresco injured or doesn't he play 50 Over games any more ?
He's generally playing less and less cricket, I'm not sure how much longer we will see him on the county circuit.
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Would've liked to have kicked on and got a really big score, but if we can take an early wicket or two we have a great chance.
Is Tresco injured or doesn't he play 50 Over games any more ?
He's generally playing less and less cricket, I'm not sure how much longer we will see him on the county circuit.
The county have adopted a policy of saving him for the championship to avoid injuries and avoid disrupting his rhythm. I reckon he will play at Lords, though.
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Would've liked to have kicked on and got a really big score, but if we can take an early wicket or two we have a great chance.
Is Tresco injured or doesn't he play 50 Over games any more ?
He's generally playing less and less cricket, I'm not sure how much longer we will see him on the county circuit.
The county have adopted a policy of saving him for the championship to avoid injuries and avoid disrupting his rhythm. I reckon he will play at Lords, though.
Are you referring to Keith Barker??
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Would've liked to have kicked on and got a really big score, but if we can take an early wicket or two we have a great chance.
Is Tresco injured or doesn't he play 50 Over games any more ?
He's generally playing less and less cricket, I'm not sure how much longer we will see him on the county circuit.
The county have adopted a policy of saving him for the championship to avoid injuries and avoid disrupting his rhythm. I reckon he will play at Lords, though.
Are you referring to Keith Barker??
Sorry, yes.
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Would've liked to have kicked on and got a really big score, but if we can take an early wicket or two we have a great chance.
Is Tresco injured or doesn't he play 50 Over games any more ?
He's generally playing less and less cricket, I'm not sure how much longer we will see him on the county circuit.
The county have adopted a policy of saving him for the championship to avoid injuries and avoid disrupting his rhythm. I reckon he will play at Lords, though.
Are you referring to Keith Barker??
Sorry, yes.
Thanks
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It was very good of Somerset to let us use a specialist keeper to replace Ambrose.........The Spirit of Cricket lives
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Final tickets booked. First time I can ever remember the Bears being in a Final that didn't clash with a Villa home game.
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Great report on Cricinfo from George Dobell:
http://www.espncricinfo.com/county-cricket-2016/content/story/1051649.html
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I was there yesterday and was a little suprised that the crowd was not bigger given it was a Semi final on a Bank Holiday Monday.
Good performance by the bowlers even it that 8th wicket partnership began to worry us because at 161-7 I was getting my mind ready for an early trip to Moseley and it's pubs.
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I'd have gone of it was on the Sunday. I like to go when I have the following day off so I can get nicely drunk. That's why it pisses me off that we hardly ever seem to play a one-day game on a fucking Saturday.
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Bell has signed to play in The Big Bash
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We're slight favourites for the RL cup according to BetVictor.
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We're slight favourites for the RL cup according to BetVictor.
Surrey favourites according to Stan James.
I had us at 14/1 earlier in the season. I've got to decide whether to cover my bet or not.
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I'm in the same position but at 10/1. I'm going to have a few quid on Surrey to cover my initial stake.
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Middlesex are 190-6 at tea. Wright has 3-33 and Poysden 3-34.
It was reported earlier that Barker had received an official warning for running on the pitch. The fact that he's only bowled 8 overs would suggest he's been taken out of the attack.
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So 14 games into the season and we still haven't won a toss
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So 14 games into the season and we still haven't won a toss
The rules for the toss were changed this season, the visiting captain is now offered the chance to bat first. If he declines then the toss takes place as normal. If he accepts then there's no toss. On a dry, late summer Edgbaston pitch it's hardly surprising that Middlesex don't want to bat last and risked the toss which they subsequently won.
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Poysden has his 5th wicket. Middlesex 210 for 8.
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Good day for the Bears. Bowled them out for 242 and lost money wickets on the 2 overs remaining. We need yo press home the advantage tomorrow.
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Well done to the Bears. Excellent from Poysden. Try and get a decent lead tomorrow. Will it rain??
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We're slight favourites for the RL cup according to BetVictor.
Surrey favourites according to Stan James.
I had us at 14/1 earlier in the season. I've got to decide whether to cover my bet or not.
A few of our players were not best pleased at how they celebrated their recent CC win at Edgbaston like a pack of feral dogs, and are well up for revenge. I would not bet against us on this one. If we are up for it, they are no match.
On the other hand, we might well be relegated from the CC Div 1 if we do not get a win soon. I have booked the hotel for the last game at Taunton, and I would dearly love us to be safe by then.
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We're slight favourites for the RL cup according to BetVictor.
Surrey favourites according to Stan James.
I had us at 14/1 earlier in the season. I've got to decide whether to cover my bet or not.
A few of our players were not best pleased at how they celebrated their recent CC win at Edgbaston like a pack of feral dogs, and are well up for revenge. I would not bet against us on this one. If we are up for it, they are no match.
On the other hand, we might well be relegated from the CC Div 1 if we do not get a win soon. I have booked the hotel for the last game at Taunton, and I would dearly love us to be safe by then.
Surrey have always been arrogant wankers, you could also see it in the way that they celebrated wickets against Yorkshire on Sunday in the other semi final. Dernbach and Batty seemed to be the worst offenders.
Such a shame that they've had nothing to brag about for many seasons!
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We're slight favourites for the RL cup according to BetVictor.
Surrey favourites according to Stan James.
I had us at 14/1 earlier in the season. I've got to decide whether to cover my bet or not.
A few of our players were not best pleased at how they celebrated their recent CC win at Edgbaston like a pack of feral dogs, and are well up for revenge. I would not bet against us on this one. If we are up for it, they are no match.
On the other hand, we might well be relegated from the CC Div 1 if we do not get a win soon. I have booked the hotel for the last game at Taunton, and I would dearly love us to be safe by then.
Surrey have always been arrogant wankers, you could also see it in the way that they celebrated wickets against Yorkshire on Sunday in the other semi final. Dernbach and Batty seemed to be the worst offenders.
Such a shame that they've had nothing to brag about for many seasons!
My dad who loved his cricket, big Yorkshire supporter but enjoyed watching any cricket only ever really disliked one sports team, Surrey.
I thought Batty behaved like a prick against Yorkshire, he came across as an ungracious tosser. Also noticed their players studiously ignoring the few kids wanting autographs on the boundary. His celebrations seemed designed to wind up as many people as possible.
I hope Warwickshire humiliate them in the final, after they've beaten Middlesex!
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We're slight favourites for the RL cup according to BetVictor.
Surrey favourites according to Stan James.
I had us at 14/1 earlier in the season. I've got to decide whether to cover my bet or not.
A few of our players were not best pleased at how they celebrated their recent CC win at Edgbaston like a pack of feral dogs, and are well up for revenge. I would not bet against us on this one. If we are up for it, they are no match.
On the other hand, we might well be relegated from the CC Div 1 if we do not get a win soon. I have booked the hotel for the last game at Taunton, and I would dearly love us to be safe by then.
Surrey have always been arrogant wankers, you could also see it in the way that they celebrated wickets against Yorkshire on Sunday in the other semi final. Dernbach and Batty seemed to be the worst offenders.
Such a shame that they've had nothing to brag about for many seasons!
My dad who loved his cricket, big Yorkshire supporter but enjoyed watching any cricket only ever really disliked one sports team, Surrey.
I thought Batty behaved like a prick against Yorkshire, he came across as an ungracious tosser. Also noticed their players studiously ignoring the few kids wanting autographs on the boundary. His celebrations seemed designed to wind up as many people as possible.
I hope Warwickshire humiliate them in the final, after they've beaten Middlesex!
Even when they had a good team with the likes of Butcher, Thorpe, Stewart, Bicknell etc they were arrogant. I like the nickname that Atherton and Hussain gave them - Surrey Jazz Hats.
On other Cricketing matters, The Bears are 75-2 at lunch, trailing Middlesex by 167.
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Could we be scoring any slower? Get the fuck on with it we need bonus points and time to bowl Middlesex out!
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So 14 games into the season and we still haven't won a toss
The rules for the toss were changed this season, the visiting captain is now offered the chance to bat first. If he declines then the toss takes place as normal. If he accepts then there's no toss. On a dry, late summer Edgbaston pitch it's hardly surprising that Middlesex don't want to bat last and risked the toss which they subsequently won.
Not quite right there. There is an uncontested toss if the visitors want to Bowl first. This season for the bears there have been 4 uncontested, 2 occasions we have done this and 2 occasions the opposition have done this at Edgbaston. So we are in our 14th game and have had 10 actual toss'. We have lost every one. If you consider that Chopra only won 4 last season, it means the Bears have won 4 out of a possible 26 tosses.
Put it into perspective Yorkshire won 11 last season.
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Even when they had a good team with the likes of Butcher, Thorpe, Stewart, Bicknell etc they were arrogant. I like the nickname that Atherton and Hussain gave them - Surrey Jazz Hats.
From what my dad told me it goes back to the fifties that sort of behaviour.
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Surrey were the Man Utd of cricket in the 50s - they won seven Championships in a row - and always seemed to have an arrogance about them. I cordially dislike them even now they're quite, quite ordinary.
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The traditional collapse from Warwickshire. Fucked our victory hopes and didn't even cash in and get some bonus points when things were looking good.
The threat of relegation won't go away.
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Bears in big trouble now. Westwood run out in controversial style following a collision with Raynor and then Hain, Bell and Clarke fell yo spinners. 128 for 6. Barker in with sub wickie Mellor.
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A familiar collapse! Westwood's dismissal seems to have triggered a clatter of wickets. Poor from Hain and Clarke. In big trouble now. Disappointing.
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Bell took 100 balls to amass his 19 runs.
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FFS! 122/2 then 172 all out! Rubbish - batting failures yet again
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Bloody hell Warwickshire, what are you playing at?!
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Disgraceful. Come on Yorkshire, save our arses by beating Hampshire please.
I don't want two relegations in the same year!
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This has happened far too many times this season. Something is fundamentally wrong
I was hoping a decent win on Monday would give us momentum but clearly that was a forlorn hope.
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It looks like rain for most of Saturday, so that might help the Bears! A draw would be a good result. Just need to survive today. Middlesex might try and get a 300 lead quickly and put us in after lunch with one eye on the weather.
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A third wicket of the morning
99/3
Malan Ct Mellors b Patel 17
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Lunch 129/3
Lead 199
Robson 41*
Eskinazi 15*
I suppose a decent session for Bears restricting the run rate. Need a better one till tea keep them batting till as long as they can this evening with the rain forecast
for tomorrow.
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I renewed my membership yesterday as the ICC Champions Trophy tickets were made available. I complete a 6 year deal at the
end of this season and they have a 3 year deal available now which saved me £50...£505 in total.
I was able to get the 2 seats i wanted for the Aussie game though in Block 9 immediately outside the bar...£50 each....June 10th next year but
this game will sell quickly.
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169/3 a lead of 239
Robson 58*
Eskinazi 36*
No further breakthrough
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211/4 a lead of 280 there are 42 overs left today i would suppose that they may play till lunch
tomorrow so 76 overs left for Middx to bowl us out...long may they continue to bat to reduce
the number of overs available...and for maybe not the first time this season i hope it pisses down
before it's due to as:
Eskinazi b Poysden 53
Simpson 10*
Toby Roland-Jones sent in to give it the long handle...213/5 ...283 lead
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251/6
Toby R-J b Poysden 21
Simpson 27*
Franklin in
Lead now 321
Keep batting please...lead surely enough.35 overs left today
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263/7
Franklin ct Clarke b Poysden 5
8 wkts for Poysden in match now 8/132
Lead 333
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Tea 267/7
Lead 337 i suspect we won't see Middx bat any longer and by declaring at Tea won't lose any overs so
i assume 32 overs for Bears to face tonight plus possible 96 tomorrow which by all weather accounts won't
happen.
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http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/index.html
Latest scores
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Is it a bad forecast for Birmingham tomorrow? Hope so because looks like it's not great in Southampton.
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Bears 20/1 6.5
Chopra ct Robson b T. R-J 9
Westwood 9*
Trott in
25 overs to go plus a ball
Trott on 886 championship runs ...we can but hope that by the end of this game he has reached 1000
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Is it a bad forecast for Birmingham tomorrow? Hope so because looks like it's not great in Southampton.
May play till lunch or thereabouts in Birmingham such is the forecast. If that's the case 57 overs left!!!
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According to the BBC weather forecast, the heavy rain starts around midday tomorrow. I doubt we could chase 330 on a turning wicket? A draw would give us a decent amount of points, but a pity no batting points were gained. A poor season overall. Will Brown be kept on?
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42/2 19.4
FOW 37/2
Trott LBW Ravi Patel 8
Westwood 20*
Bell 3
Still 12 overs tonight....Please don't lose any more tonight. A struggle i believe to accomplish that
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War v Mid
Mid lead by 282 runs
War 55 for 3 (26.1 overs)
WKT - Westwood lbw b Rayner 28
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Chris Wright in as night watchman.5 overs plus a few balls to go
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Poor batting again! Pray for rain tomorrow! We deserve that piece of luck as we suffer when in command of games to the weather - albeit not very often!
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Poor batting again! Pray for rain tomorrow! We deserve that piece of luck as we suffer when in command of games to the weather - albeit not very often!
I wouldn't say poor batting today, Trott wasn't out, ball pitching outside leg stump, overall i would say a decent day for Bears restricted Middx in their quest
for speedy runs.
It could be an interesting couple of hours in the morning....i will go down in the hope that i only see an hours cricket!!!
74/3 only another 264 runs for victory!!!
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Not much play at Hampshire v Yorkshire today, off for bad light most of the day at a ground with floodlights.
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Poor batting again! Pray for rain tomorrow! We deserve that piece of luck as we suffer when in command of games to the weather - albeit not very often!
I wouldn't say poor batting today, Trott wasn't out, ball pitching outside leg stump, overall i would say a decent day for Bears restricted Middx in their quest
for speedy runs.
It could be an interesting couple of hours in the morning....i will go down in the hope that i only see an hours cricket!!!
74/3 only another 264 runs for victory!!!
Well, Chopra's brain is not engaged at the moment.
I have never seen Trott so angry. He looked up to the heavens in despair at the time of the decision and let loose a torrent of invective as he approached the pavilion end.
We will be holding a rain dance ritual on the Skyline East at 1045 to 1055 tomorrow morning and then marching straight to The Selly Park Tavern chanting "Doug Out" and "Dougie Brown, You're a Clown".
Seriously, if we go down, we will be in considerable financial trouble.
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Good old British weather! Useful points if they don't get out in the afternoon. Rain looks set in for most of the day.
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Good old British weather! Useful points if they don't get out in the afternoon. Rain looks set in for most of the day.
Yes, certainly looks like it....not gonna get my 60-90 minutes down there before the wet stuff started...as you say useful points.
Just hope weather takes care of Notts & Hants chances of a win
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To get my cricket fix listening to Hants v Yorks and Yorks have lost a wkt this morning:
Gale Ct McManus b Wheal 19
Jake Lehmann come in on 4
Ballance 47
150/3
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200/4
Ballance b Berg 72
Bresnan 9
Lehmann 18
Lead 259
Looks like trying to get 300+ lead by lunch leaving two sessions to bowl Hants out
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Spots of rain at Southampton now....236/5
Bresnan Ct Berg b Carter 27
Hodd in
Lehmann 32
Lead 295
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Yorks declared 238/5
Target 298 to win for Hants in 72 overs.
Covers poised about 10 yards short of wicket....coming on....very light drizzle...not bringing sheets on.
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State of play elsewhere...Somerset v Lancs already abandonded
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/index.html
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Play underway at Southampton
8/0 1.5 overs
Minimum 68 overs left 290 req'd for Hants...a rare thing for me to say i would welcome a 10 wicket blitz from Tykes.
Sidebotton gets Will Smith LBW 4
8-1 2.1 overs
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Minimum 68 overs left 290 req'd for Hants...a rare thing for me to say i would welcome a 10 wicket blitz from Tykes.
Same here but looks like the rain is arriving shortly.
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Durham v Notts abandoned as a draw. Durham gone above us temporarily....currently 3rd bottom but will get 8 points for our draw.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/county-championship-division-one/table
Update of table as of now with Durham v Notts included
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Inspection at 15:10 at Edgbaston....hopefully that's all it will be!!
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Inspection at 15:10 at Edgbaston....hopefully that's all it will be!!
It has dried up and brightened up in B6........
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Inspection at 15:10 at Edgbaston....hopefully that's all it will be!!
It has dried up and brightened up in B6........
I live about a mile away and it has stopped raining....but would have thought that outfield would mean certainly no play till 16:00 leaving about 15 overs till 17:00
then however many Middx can bowl in the final hour...Spinners on a wet pitch with a wet ball. They shouldn't be able to bowl us out.
See what inspection brings.
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Hants 54/2
Alsop Ct Rafiq b Patterson 18
Adams 26
Vince in
44 overs remaining
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59/3
Adams Ct Lyth b Brooks 30
43.2 overs remaing
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Play due to start at 15:45 at Edgbaston . 2 hours 15 minutes to bowl us out
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Hants 74/4
Vince Ct Bresnan b Brooks 16
Ervine 4*
McClaren in
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Play due to start at 15:45 at Edgbaston . 2 hours 15 minutes to bowl us out
36 overs to bowl us out as light stops play at Southampton with score 84/4 from 31.4 overs. So as one game ceases, Tea will be taken, another one
commences.
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Play due to start at 15:45 at Edgbaston . 2 hours 15 minutes to bowl us out
That could be tricky especially with our brittle batting. More rain looks likely from the latest BBC weather forecast (hopefully)!!
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Rayner to Bell, 5 round the bat....3
rd ball Bell edges just short of slip.
Single to Bell 75/3....very grey overhead
13 Bell
10 Wright
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Umpires taking a reading of light.
Toby Roland Jones been told can't bowl due to light. Basically spin only...very dark.
Looks like Ravi Patel bowling which means will likely get more than 36 overs in the 130
minutes left.
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89/4
Wright LBW Rayner 22
Bell 15*
Minimum 29 overs left
Hain in
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Match drawn: Hampshire 222 & 84-4 v Yorkshire 281 & 238-5d
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120/4 17.2 min remaining
Bell 25
Hain 21
Off for bad light
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/county-championship-division-one/table
With Yorks v Hants added
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There is a short burst of raim due there I'm 30 mins or so according to AccuWeather so that should do it.
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Ah shucks, looks like we may have to settle for the draw ;)
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Match drawn! A whopping 8 points.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/county-championship-division-one/table
Remaining Fixtures of bottom 5
6/9
Notts v Middx - Notts lose this and they are gone
Somerset v Bears
Yorks v Durham
12/9
Durham v Surrey
Lancs v Middx
20/9
Hants v Durham
Somerset v Notts
Bears v Lancs
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Will Woakes be available for the Lancs game? Could really do with him for that one.
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Last match of the season is Middlesex v Yorkshire, wonder if the England players will be free to play in the game?
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Will Woakes be available for the Lancs game? Could really do with him for that one.
The last Pakistan game is on wed 7th T20 international, Englands next game after that is a ODI in Bangladesh 7th Oct.
There is no real reason why any of the England players shouldn't be allowed to play in last round of matches.
I suppose a lot depends when squad getting together / Travelling to Bangladesh!!
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Will Woakes be available for the Lancs game? Could really do with him for that one.
The last Pakistan game is on wed 7th T20 international, Englands next game after that is a ODI in Bangladesh 7th Oct.
There is no real reason why any of the England players shouldn't be allowed to play in last round of matches.
I suppose a lot depends when squad getting together / Travelling to Bangladesh!!
I read somewhere that they are travelling on 29th September so Woakes could play but with 7 tests plus ODIs in Bangladesh before Christmas I suspect the ECB might want him and all the England players to have their feet up for a while before travelling
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Last match of the season is Middlesex v Yorkshire, wonder if the England players will be free to play in the game?
And last game of the season in Div 2 is Kent v Essex, could be the promotion decider (hopefully though Essex would have already been promoted).
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Last match of the season is Middlesex v Yorkshire, wonder if the England players will be free to play in the game?
Have read a quote somewhere that they would be available for the last match. Will make it interesting.
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The Yorkshire County Cricket Club have been advised by the England and Wales Cricket Board that Joe Root and Jonny Bairstow will not be available for the rest of the Specsavers County Championship season.
Thanks for that ECB.
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See below....loos as though same applies for Woakes although OK for final.
http://warwickshireccc.com/news/chris-woakes-jason-roy-available-lords-final/
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No doubt they'll want Steven Finn to play in the game to build up his fitness.
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Squad for tomorrow:
Bell, Ambrose (fitness test in morning), Barker, Clarke, Hain, OHD, Ateeq Javid, Mellor, Patel, Poysden, Trott, Westwood & Wright
So i suppose the big question is who is opening with Westwood.
Chopra left out and been told wish you luck in the future and thanks. So thats it for him in Bears shirt.
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Bell has lost another toss....Somerset won and are batting.
Gonna watch live feed from Trent Bridge as well as listen to Bears where uncontested toss and Middx are bowling.
Likewise at Headingley where Durham are bowling.
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Bell has lost another toss....Somerset won and are batting.
Gonna watch live feed from Trent Bridge as well as listen to Bears where uncontested toss and Middx are bowling.
Likewise at Headingley where Durham are bowling.
Big chance for young wicket-keeper Alex Mellor, being asked to open the batting.
With the uncontested toss, do the away team have to turn up and say 'we want to bowl', and then at that point there is no toss?
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Hadn't realised it was a half ten start today. Lucky I opened Cricinfo early just in case!
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Bell has lost another toss....Somerset won and are batting.
Gonna watch live feed from Trent Bridge as well as listen to Bears where uncontested toss and Middx are bowling.
Likewise at Headingley where Durham are bowling.
Big chance for young wicket-keeper Alex Mellor, being asked to open the batting.
With the uncontested toss, do the away team have to turn up and say 'we want to bowl', and then at that point there is no toss?
Yes
Full side is:
Westwood, Mellor, Trott, Bell, Hain, Lamb, Clarke, Barker, Patel, Wright & Poysden
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7/1 2 overs
Trescothick LBW Wright 2
Abell 5*
Rogers in
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Early breakthrough at TB as well:
Notts 11//
Libby Ct Robson b Murtagh 5
Yorks 5/0 2.5 v Durham
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So we haven't won a toss this year
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So we haven't won a toss this year
Crazy isn't it....i think there have only been 4 uncontested tosses so he has lost 11 out of 11
8/1 4.2
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8/2 4.5
Rogers Ct Clarke b Barker 1
Abell 5*
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Good start! Keep it up please Bears.
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Yorks 14/1 6.1
Lyth Ct Jennings b Onions 2
Ballance & Lees together
Notts 17/1 6.4
Somerset 14/2 6.4
Incidentally this is Matt Lamb's debut aged 20 in his last game against Worcs 2nds he scored 54 & 127*
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Start gets better
28/3
Hildreth Ct Bell b Barker 9
Abell 16*
Trego in
1st bonus point under our belt
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36/4 11.3
Abell Ct Mellors b Wright 20
Trego 4*
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Getting delightfully ridiculous
36/5 12.1
Trego b Barker 4
Gregory 0*
Van der Merwe in
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At TB Notts 35/2
Moores b Finn 16
Yorks 57/1 13.5
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36/6 12.5
Van der Merwe Ct Clarke b Barker 0
Gregory 0*
2 bowling points inside the first hour ....that takes some doing
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So we haven't won a toss this year
Crazy isn't it....i think there have only been 4 uncontested tosses so he has lost 11 out of 11
8/1 4.2
Chopra only won 4 last year
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This is impressive reading
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/946931.html
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COYB!
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Rikki doesn't wish to be left out. His very first ball:
46/7 15.1
Gregory Ct Mellor b Clarke 4
Davies 4*
Bess in for debut
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66/8 21.2
Bess Ct Mellors b Clarke 9
Davies 14*
Leach in
Notts 68/3
Yorks 94/1 23.5
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69/9 24
Davies Ct & B Clarke 16
Leach 1*
Groenewald in
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Lunch time scores Div1
Notts 74/3 29 v Middx
Yorks 110/1 31 v Durham
Surrey 93/2 30 v Hants
Play ongoing at Taunton as 9 down playing till 13:00 or fall of wkt 78/9 27.3
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Not to be out done Jeets comes on and yes first ball
Leach B Patel 14
Groenewald 10*
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/946931.html
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Players coming out after lunch...now the interesting part really starts...need a good lead here.
Lewis Gregory opening up to Ian Westwood who takes a ingle off first ball enabling Alex Mellor
to receive his first ball as opener!!
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I see Graeme Welch has been appointed assistant at Leicestershire, it's strange how things turn about as I remember never really liking Welch as a player as I thought he was a rival to Dougie's all-rounder role, now I'd much rather see Welch in charge of us than Dougie.
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Bears 35/1 6
Mellor Ct Bess b Groenewald 20
Westwood 8
Trott 4
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Other scores:
Notts 97/4 40 v Middx
Yorks 145/1 41.1
Surrey 97/3 37 Bad light
Bears 38/1 7
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Another wkt at TB
Notts 117/5 46.4
Yorks 177/2 Ballance gone 71, Lees 88* 47.2
Bears 43/1 14.2
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What a spell from the Bears seamers this morning. Need to score 250+ now and get in to a really healthy position.
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62/2 22.3
Trott Ct Trescothick b Bess 10 (first wkt on debut for him)
Bell Ct & B Bess 0 1st ball
62/3 22.4
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Could there be a points deduction for Somerset here? I read this morning that the pitch they are using for this match had already been played on and 13 wickets already....
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14 now
67/4 24.2
Westwood Ct Trescothick b Bess 34
Hain 0
Lamb in
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3 wickets for 5 runs.
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Surely the pitch has got to be a minefield 163/14 after 55 overs is pretty damning.
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Here we go again.
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72/5 27.3
Lamb b Leach 1
Hain 4
Clarke in
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Tea 81/5
Hain 8
Clarke 5
Notts 181/6 64.3 Tea
Yorks 223/3 64 Tea
Surrwy 187/4 60.3
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I really do hope Ian Bell is not captain next year, his form has deteriorated alarmingly in the second half of this season.
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82/6 35
Hain Ct Trescothick b Groenewald 9
Clarke 5
Barker in
We may not get a lead here
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I don't suppose anyone at home watching Sri Lanka being put to the sword by Australia or particularly Maxwell
245/2 18.4
Maxwell 142*
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I don't suppose anyone at home watching Sri Lanka being put to the sword by Australia or particularly Maxwell
245/2 18.4
Maxwell 142*
It's a toss-up as tho what's more annoying - the Aussies doing so well or the commentary (particularly Danny "I'm hysterical me" Morrison).
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Highest ever T20I score 263/3 20
Maxwell 145*
Meanwhile at Taunton
89/7 37.5
Barker Ct & B Bess 1
Clarke 11
Patel in
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We have a lead 96/7 39.3
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Poor batting yet again from the Bears. Is it the worn track? But we continually collapse.
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Other sores:
Notts 201/6 72.3
Yorks 256/3 74.2
Surrey 204/4 66 Bad light
Bears 100/7 41
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107/8 42.2
Clarke Ct Davies b Hess 19
Patel 10*
Wright in
Second time this season that a spinner on debut has taken 5 wickets against us. The lancashire kid was the other i think.
Name escapes me
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107 for 8. My hopes for a three hundred lead may be dashed.
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107/8 42.2
Clarke Ct Davies b Hess 19
Patel 10*
Wright in
Second time this season that a spinner on debut has taken 5 wickets against us. The lancashire kid was the other i think.
Name escapes me
Matt Parkinson (Lancs)
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114/9 46.2
Patel Ct Abell b Best 16
Wright 1
Poysden in
Debutant Best now 6/22
Lead of a massive 19
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123 all out.
Somerset need 28 to avoid an innings defeat.
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123 all out 49.2
Wright B Leach 9
Poysden 1*
Lead 28
Need 3 down before deficit wiped off.
With change of innings 14 overs left tonight
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Batting second shouldn't be a big disadvantage, can't see the match going past day two
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Barker opened the bowling and Patel straight on at the other end.
0/0 1 over
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Other scores:
Notts 239/9 84.1 Samit Patel 100
Yorks 316/5 86.5 Lees 132
Surrey 258/6 78.3
Somerset 8/0 20 behind
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Tresco hit consecutive fours in Barker's first over.
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Notts All out 241 so only 1 batting point for them
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Somerset have wiped out the lead already.
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Thats the lead wiped out 28/0 6.1
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Abell LBW Poysden 15 31/1 6.4
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Middx lose Sam Robson in first over 0/1
Could do without that!!!
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Make that 0/2
Sent in Ollie Raynor as night watchman LBW Ball
Hat trick ball coming up...Compton to face it.....and he's got it no shot played LBW 0/3
So Notts have a bowling point after 6 balls...brilliant bowling
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Poysden just dropped Rogers!!!!Fcuk
40/1 11 2 to go
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Close of play at Taunton
13 overs gone 41/1
Trescothick 19
Rogers 7
13 lead
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Close of play in other Div 1
Notts 241 Middx 9/3 7 overs
Surrey 260/6 80 overs
Yorks 341/5 96 overs
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Are we sleep walking our way to relegation here !?
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Are we sleep walking our way to relegation here !?
I have been thinking that for quite a while now.
The ball swung in the morning which helped our seamers but there are bare patches at each end of the wicket which all but guarantee the toss will determine the outcome.
The bowler who took 6 wickets was making his debut and is 19.
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21 wickets in a day, hopefully the pitch inspectors are on their way.
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Are we sleep walking our way to relegation here !?
Getting a bit concerning if we end up losing this. Which isn't something we should have been worrying about after bowling them out for under 100.
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No demons in the wicket so far this morning...Trescothick just survived LBW appeal and that's about it.
60/1 23 overs
Not the same unfortunately at TB where Malan has been caught in front to Hutton so Middx struggling on 39/4
http://live.trentbridge.co.uk/#stream
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Yorks on for maximum batting points 375/6 106 25 off 4 overs req'd v Durham
Surrey 286/7 91.3 v Hants
Trecothick b Patel 25
70/2
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75/3 28
Hildreth LBW Wright 1
Rogers 30*
Trego in
So wickets starting to fall...in effect 47/3
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75/3 28
Hildreth LBW Wright 1
Rogers 30*
Trego in
So wickets starting to fall...in effect 47/3
Somerset don't seem to have much batting after the top 5 so the next wicket is important, if we can get it quick then we're on top I think because the pitch sounds better this morning.
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Yorkshire failed to get maximum batting points being 392/7 @ 110 overs.
Denied Durham a 3rd bowling point though.
Surrey are 308/8 96 overs so looks like Hants will get maximum bowling points with 14 overs to get 1 wkt
Middx 51/4 23 overs
Somerset now 80/3 52 lead
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75/3 28
Hildreth LBW Wright 1
Rogers 30*
Trego in
So wickets starting to fall...in effect 47/3
Somerset don't seem to have much batting after the top 5 so the next wicket is important, if we can get it quick then we're on top I think because the pitch sounds better this morning.
Rogers is the key man ..moved onto 39 now,imperative that we get him sharpish as he could take game away from us if he gets anywhere near a ton!!!
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123/3
Rogers 52
Trego 26
Rogers is really worrying me now...lead of 95
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Lunch time scores:
Somerset 128/3 100 lead now
Middx 65/4
Yorks 460 all out
Surrey 329 Hants 8/0
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Back on after lunch...no Keith Barker currently, injured his shoulder just before lunch. Let's hope he is just receiving
treatment and he will be back with us soon. If more serious i fear for our chances. Going to be difficult enough as it is.
129/3
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Barker back on the field
130/4 46.1
Trego LBW Patel 31
Rogers 54
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Notts even further down the road toward winning their game:
Middx 86/5
Eskinazi b Tahir 35
Durham 44/0 7.2 replying to Yorks 460
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141/5
End of Rogers b Patel 58....Get in there
Gregory 7*
113/5 lead
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160/6
Gregory LBW Patel 11
Van Der Merwe 11*
Davies in
128/6 lead
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169/7
Davies Ct Patel b Poysden 3
Van Der Merwe 17
Bess in
141/7 lead
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The lead over 150 with 3 wickets to go, i would think that about another 10/20 may be enough to beat our efforts
183/7
155/7 lead
Going to need 2 or 3 of our players to have a decent knock to win this and on current form i can't see too many
doing that.
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190/8
Van Der Merwe b Barker 22
Bess 12
162/8 lead
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Another wkt at TB Middx 139/6
Simpson b Hutton 27
102 behind
Durham 106/1 25.2
Hants 74/1 28/.2
Somerset now 199/8 lead 171
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211/9
Bess Ct Hain b Poysden 25
211 all out
Leach b Patel 2
Groenewald not out 0
Require 184 to win
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COYB don't fuck this up!
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Tea scores...see above for Bears Tea taken at the end of innings
Middx 158/6 71 overs 83 behind...Tea
Durham 114/2 34 Trail by 346
Hants 106/1 37.2
The last 2 games havent quite got to Tea yet.
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184 in around 200 overs - sounds easy in theory !
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184 in around 200 overs - sounds easy in theory !
This is far from easy...i would say Somerset nailed on favourites, 32 overs left tonight if we could be 80/1 then every chance but extremely difficult
no players in any form whatsoever. Needs Bell & Trott & Westwood to step up.
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Bowling figures:
Barker 12 4 21 1
Patel 34.3 10 86 5
Poysden 12 0 52 3
Wright 15 3 31 1
Clarke 1 1 0 0
Or just look at scorecard
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/946931.html
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10/1 5
Westwood Ct Rogers b Groenewald 3
Mellor 5*
Trott in
One of the 3 key players i mentioned gone very cheaply.
174 to win
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Huge session coming up for the Bears and our division 1 status.
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If someone can convince Trott and Hain to treat it like a 1 day match we'll be fine.
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Is it two counties to be relegated?
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20/2 8.2
Trott St Davies b Leach 4
Rushing down wicket to Leach's 2nd ball of the innings...ridiculous.
Bell in
Mellor 10
Another key man gone. Bell off king pair pushing a single off 1st ball 21/2 8.3
163 req'd.
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Is it two counties to be relegated?
Yes with just one being promoted...Essex likely
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I had put this game in my diary at the star of season as a possible day out on Friday.... Maybe not now.
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If someone can convince Trott and Hain to treat it like a 1 day match we'll be fine.
I meant in terms of averages not shot selection!!
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If someone can convince Trott and Hain to treat it like a 1 day match we'll be fine.
I meant in terms of averages not shot selection!!
Trott didn't hear you.
During Tea interval i was messing about with career run totals ...be back to that
32/3
Bell Ct Trescothick b Leach 1
Mellor 17*
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As i was saying i was taking career first class run totals and how many each batsman req'd to reach next total:
Westwood 7787 target 7800 13 required 3 scored
Trott 16448 Back to this
33/4
Hain Ct Trescothick b Leach 0 First ball
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As i was saying i was taking career first class run totals and how many each batsman req'd to reach next total:
Westwood 7787 target 7800 13 required 3 scored
Trott 16448 Target16500 52 req 4 scored
Bell 18431 18500 69 req'd 1 scored
33/4
Hain Ct Trescothick b Leach 0 First ball
etc etc
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34/5
Lamb b Leach 1
Great decision to play young lad over Chopra or Evans even Javid. Questions need to be asked and answered.
Disgraceful shot selection and lack of care and application.
Clarke in to join Mellor
Leach 3/4 now
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I think dear old Dougie will be looking for another job next year.
Considering the players available, what a poor season this has been.
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Shower of ******.
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49/6
Mellor Ct Abell b Leach 22
Clarke 5
Barker in
Leach 4/5
Fuckin joke...not that it matters now 135 to win...still 15.5 overs to go tonight.
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I think dear old Dougie will be looking for another job next year.
Considering the players available, what a poor season this has been.
There cannot be any doubt can there. Cannot understand the selection of Lamb in this game...
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It is pretty disgraceful how we've collapsed this time.
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56/7
Barker Ct Trescothick b Bess 2
Clarke 10
I feel sorry for all those that have travelled down there and there are a fair number. Adrenachrome of this parish one!!!
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Woeful.
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Middx 236/9 5 behind
Durham 160/3 53.4
Hants 167/3 55.3
So potential for picking up points/wins for teams around us Bears on 156 with 1 game to play and confidence absolutely in pieces
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61/8
Patel LBW Leach 1
5/10 Leach 7 in the match so far
2 x 19 year old spinners have absolutely hammered us Bess 6 in first innings plus 2 in this
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Middx all out 247 at TB
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Under 100 to win
86/8
98 required
Clarke 22
Wright 13
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Somerset have claimed the extra half hour.
7 of the 8 overs left
95/8
Clarke 25
Wright 19
89 more
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Have this pair decided to just smash it and see if they can get the runs?
112/8 with 17 from the last 2 overs.
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With that 6 off Leach, Clarke becomes our top scorer from both innings and brings up the 50 partnership with Wright for the 9th wicket.
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Highest partnership of the match 62 currently under way by Wright & Clarke
123/8
61 to win
At least this pair having a go, doubled our score
Clarke 40
Wright 32
3 overs to go or 13 minutes
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123/8
2 overs left tonight
target now 61
This is a strange little spell, they seem happy for this pair to try to score in the hope they'll give up chances but at what point do they get nervous about the chase?
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123/8
2 overs left tonight
target now 61
This is a strange little spell, they seem happy for this pair to try to score in the hope they'll give up chances but at what point do they get nervous about the chase?
It's a strange balance, it can all be over in 2 balls. There's a parallel with the 2005 Ashes test at Edgbaston. England seemed relaxed until the lead was less than 20, which is when nerves started to affect both sides.
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Last over taking place now
131/8 close
53 required
Clarke 42
Wright 38
Just makes it even worse in a way how the top and middle order just collapsed.
Whatever happens tomorrow morning fair play to these 2 for showing some pride and heart.
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Right I wasn't going to post this before for fear of invoking the poster's version of commentator's curse......but dare we dream?
131-8 at stumps. Clarke and Wright have added 70 runs in just under 20 overs. 53 needed and Somerset must be a little bit worried.
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The other important scores:
Notts 24/0 lead by 18....game in the balance Notts 4 points so far
Durham 205/4 70 overs trail by 255 Durham should score 7 points minimum takes em above Bears with game in hand
Hants 213/3 70 overs trail by 116 gonna score minimum 7 points but every chance of securing draw or winning.
If we lose we only get 3 points to go to 156
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Not sure where the extra overs came from there but closes on 131/8 with 53 more needed.
I think they'll get a bit nervous if this pair add another 20 or so early in the morning.
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Not sure where the extra overs came from there but closes on 131/8 with 53 more needed.
I think they'll get a bit nervous if this pair add another 20 or so early in the morning.
Because there was a chance of Somerset winning tonight the captain can claim an extra 30 minutes to try and complete the deed.
This is 30 minutes or 8 overs but Somerset tonight managed to get 9 in due to their bowling spinners. They failed in their quest.
They may well get a little nervous in the morning but as it stands Somerset should still feel fairly comfortable.
The coaching staff and senior players have got to have a serious look at their contributions not just in this game but the season in general.
Simply not good enough!!!
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Not sure where the extra overs came from there but closes on 131/8 with 53 more needed.
I think they'll get a bit nervous if this pair add another 20 or so early in the morning.
Because there was a chance of Somerset winning tonight the captain can claim an extra 30 minutes to try and complete the deed.
This is 30 minutes or 8 overs but Somerset tonight managed to get 9 in due to their bowling spinners. They failed in their quest.
They may well get a little nervous in the morning but as it stands Somerset should still feel fairly comfortable.
The coaching staff and senior players have got to have a serious look at their contributions not just in this game but the season in general.
Simply not good enough!!!
Well said, PGW.
This squad, which is very strong on paper but about which I expressed severe doubts at the start of the season, has led us to the brink of disaster.
Good to see Rikki step up to the plate in both innings, but I wish he had done this more often in the past. He is more than capable.
Dougie's future is in serious doubt.
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Torygraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2016/09/07/counties-to-be-given-18m-a-year-if-two-thirds-agree-to-new-eight/)
Counties to be given £1.8m a year if two-thirds agree to new eight-team city-based Twenty20 tournament
By Nick Hoult, Cricket News Correspondent
7 September 2016 • 10:00pm
Counties will be given up to £1.8m each per year if they agree to the most radical change to the domestic game in its history by voting for a new city based Twenty20 tournament.
The tournament, details of which were revealed by Telegraph Sport in July, is to be launched in 2018 and will involve eight teams based at Test match grounds played over a four-week period.
Officials from the England & Wales Cricket Board have spent the past month sharing details of the potential financial gains from the new tournament in a series of meetings with county chief executives and chairmen. They also met player representatives from 13 of the 18 counties on Monday.
The ECB has insisted all parties sign non-disclosure agreements but Telegraph Sport has learnt the counties will each receive £1.5m per year from the new tournament plus a £300,000 staging fee to each club owning a Test match ground that hosts one of the new teams.
Television rights for the new tournament have been valued at around £35m annually with another £10-£12m per year from marketing and sponsorship.
The league will be played alongside the current Natwest Blast Twenty20 tournament, allowing the counties to keep their popular Friday night matches and it is understood the ECB is close to gaining the two-thirds majority vote it will need for the project to be ratified.
It is also understood there will be a player draft for the new tournament and all ticket and marketing will be handled centrally by the ECB.
The board has told the counties that some of the new tournament's matches will be shown on terrestrial television but the majority will go to a satellite broadcaster able to pay the rights fee needed to make it financially viable. However, to hit their target of £10-12m from marketing and sponsorship the tournament will meed a presence on terrestrial television where it can reach a much wider audience.
The new tournament will be played in a window in July but it has been proposed that the County Championship continues at the same time, probably forcing those Test match counties to play at out grounds, a prospect that will be popular with members but less so with some coaches and players.
There have been lengthy meetings over the past month between the ECB and counties with presentations made by Pitch International, the television rights experts the board has commissioned to value the broadcast deal.
Pitch is understood to have valued the broadcast rights to the new tournament at around £35m per year, far higher than their estimates for a competition featuring 18 counties which they believe will be worth around £5-7m per annum.
Counties have been presented with five options, with two based on county cricket, for the future of Twenty20 but it has been made clear it is the city tournament that has a future.
There is a meeting of the 18 county chairmen and chief executives with the ECB next Wednesday where the board hopes to gain consensus on change. A formal vote on changing the constitution of the ECB, which currently states all 18 counties have the right to play in any tournament, will be taken in the autumn. The ECB hopes it will be able to approach broadcasters and begin a formal tender process for the new league by the first quarter of 2017.
For those counties struggling financially, the prospect of an extra £1.5m annual payment on top of the £1.8m they already receive from the ECB will be hugely tempting, particularly if they can retain their own Friday night Twenty20 competition.
It will be attractive to those Test match grounds struggling with large debts and currently unable to sell out their grounds regularly for the Natwest Blast. They will receive £1.8m with no risk attached. It will help ease the burden of debt.
But for a club such as Surrey, which sells out the Oval for Twenty20 games, the financial package on offer will not be so attractive if they are unable to play in the new tournament under their current name.
The availability of England players for the first years of the tournament will be difficult to guarantee at this stage with international cricket already agreed until 2019 under the Future Tours Programme. Not holding any international cricket in July will have a financial implication for the Test match grounds. One way around it will be to schedule Test cricket in July freeing up the one-day specialists to play in the new league. In Australia’s Big Bash, the Test players are rarely available for more than one or two matches but it has made little difference to the competition’s popularity.
The ECB believes this competition will revitalise the domestic game and help lift falling participation levels. They hope it will help them to attract a family audience and raise the profile of cricket.
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I don't mind a Super League but it should be done with the counties on merit. Top eight teams play in it and are allowed to sign, say, five overseas megastars each. The remaining ten play in Division Two and are allowed one each, with the best homegrown players who aren't required by Super League teams allowed to go on loan to Division Two. Division Two Champions replace the Super League bottom club at the end of the season and get first dibs on the best unattached foreigners to give them a sporting chance.
No need to deprive ten counties of the most lucrative form of cricket.
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I don't mind a Super League but it should be done with the counties on merit. Top eight teams play in it and are allowed to sign, say, five overseas megastars each. The remaining ten play in Division Two and are allowed one each, with the best homegrown players who aren't required by Super League teams allowed to go on loan to Division Two. Division Two Champions replace the Super League bottom club at the end of the season and get first dibs on the best unattached foreigners to give them a sporting chance.
No need to deprive ten counties of the most lucrative form of cricket.
I think the proposal would mean the present T20 competition would continue and the new format would be bolted on top:
The league will be played alongside the current Natwest Blast Twenty20 tournament, allowing the counties to keep their popular Friday night matches and it is understood the ECB is close to gaining the two-thirds majority vote it will need for the project to be ratified.
In our case, either the Birmingham Bears would revert to the Warwickshire Bears, and the new team of mercenaries would be called the Birmingham Bandits or some such, or we would have Brum Bears and Bandits both.
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Not sure where the extra overs came from there but closes on 131/8 with 53 more needed.
I think they'll get a bit nervous if this pair add another 20 or so early in the morning.
Because there was a chance of Somerset winning tonight the captain can claim an extra 30 minutes to try and complete the deed.
This is 30 minutes or 8 overs but Somerset tonight managed to get 9 in due to their bowling spinners. They failed in their quest.
They may well get a little nervous in the morning but as it stands Somerset should still feel fairly comfortable.
The coaching staff and senior players have got to have a serious look at their contributions not just in this game but the season in general.
Simply not good enough!!!
Was 2 extra though (I thought) and the last one started well over the 30 minutes, the last ball was bowled 35-36minutes after the scheduled end.
I agree that right now they'll be thinking that this is still in the bag but once you're defending 30 it suddenly looks ropey, as I say, the first 3-4 overs in the morning will be very interesting.
However, even if the impossible happens there still needs to be an overhaul. I'm not so negative as some (I think the weather in April and May is a big part of why we're struggling, lots of draws where we were the better team and should've won if we'd had a full 4 days) but I do think that there's something fundamentally wrong with the batting coaching because it's been the bowlers who have done all the work to kept us afloat (Barker and Patel in particular, with Woakes truly brilliant at the start of the season).
T20 change, I think it's inevitable that it will happen, maybe not this time but the extra money from an IPL style tournament is needed to keep the poorer counties alive.
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Looks like Kent are blowing their chance to put pressure on Essex in the chase for promotion.
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Franchise-based city T20 is undoubtedly the way forward and it's been on the cards for a while. We have to make our domestic T20 as attractive as the IPL and the BBL etc.
Basing it in the test grounds is a logical step but the net effect will be to make the counties with a test ground even more wealthy. Sides like Northamptonshire who are a fantastic T20 side would be disadvantaged and they struggle financially. They came close to folding last winter and were bailed out by the council.
If it's based on eight teams, who misses out? You could have:
Lords, Oval, Edgbaston, Trent Bridge, Headingley, Old Trafford, Rose Bowl & Durham
Or you could have one London team and include Cardiff?
I can't see your average county member liking this but ultimately it's not aimed at them. This is aimed at the corporate market and families who will enjoy three hours entertainment from top players. I do wonder if we should continue with the current format. We already attract the likes of Gayle and McCullum, who is to say that trend won't continue?
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I'd be amazed if they only had one London team!
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I'd be amazed if they only had one London team!
I agree but the Torygraph article suggests that Surrey won't be happy with the new structure which suggests only one London team.
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If Somerset knock our last 2 over quickly this morning as I'm expecting now that they are fresh and it's a new day, I'm going to be seriously worried about relegation going into that crunch clash with Lancy to finish the season.
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It's live on 5 Live Sports Extra.
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Clarke moves onto 46 -136-8 in first over
Wright bats out a maiden in 2nd
48 to win
2 of first 3 overs maidens.
Take your time boys!!!
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Whilst I don't bother with T20 it will be interesting to see how many Yorkshire supporters would go along to support a team called Leeds. Despite what people think you don't see many Leeds shirts in the ground at Headingley and when you do see one you can pretty much guarantee a chant of "We all hate Leeds and Leeds..." from those in the West Stand.
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up to 146/8 after 12 overs this morning so 38 more to get.
Sounds like it's very nervy now, them unwilling to give anything away and us unwilling to chase after anything.
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Wright gone 147 - 9
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It's down to you Josh Poysden!
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147/8
Clarke 50
Wright 45
37 to win
Wright Ct Davies b Gregory 45
147/9
Poysden in
86 run partnership
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Clarke makes his 50 but then Wright gets out a couple of deliveries later.
147/9 with 37 runs or 1 wicket to go. Clarke really needs to look after Poysden now and try to hog the strike.
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Nervous start from Poysden playing and missing his first 2 deliveries.
Clarke got to take responsibility now...good luck.
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All over....
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Bugger.
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Can't fault Clarke, he did the right thing there. The problems are in the top 5, just not scoring the runs we need to up there and putting a huge amount of pressure on the lower order and tail.
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All over Poysden ct at Leg Gully
Trescothick with his 394th catch..a new record for Somerset.
Clarke 55*
Lost by 31 runs.
Westwood, Bell Trott etc have got to have a long hard look at themselves. Also Dougie Brown who on interview said he knew pitch would act this way
so why on earth did he select Matt Lamb....beggars belief. Anxious wait on other results now.
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Going down.. :(
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/county-championship-division-one/table
Table as of now:
Latest scores
Notts 54/0 Lead by 48
Hants 241/5 80 Overs 84 behind
Durham 234/5 82.5 226 behind
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Come on Surrey.
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Come on Surrey.
I can't imagine ever having to type or say those words.
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Come on Surrey.
100% in agreement and i hate to say it come on Yorkshire & Middlesex.
Desperately need Hants and Notts not to win
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Can't fault Clarke, he did the right thing there. The problems are in the top 5, just not scoring the runs we need to up there and putting a huge amount of pressure on the lower order and tail.
Trott and Bell have been really disappointing in the championship - allied to the fact we have no decent openers (that we are willing to play) and an inexperienced no.5.
The team is an old one, and we really seem to bring quality youngsters through.
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Come on Surrey.
100% in agreement and i hate to say it come on Yorkshire & Middlesex.
Desperately need Hants and Notts not to win
Notts have lost a wicket 63/1 also Durham 235/6 a 2nd bowling point for Tykes
http://live.trentbridge.co.uk/#stream
Link if anyone wants to watch Notts v Middx
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Providing Surrey don't collapse in their 2nd innings, their game v Hampshire should end in a draw. If they get another batting point and 5 points for the draw. That takes them to 145 points.
We have 156.
Hampshire's last game is v Durham at home, the maximum they can get is 24 points taking them 169. Meaning we will have to get 13 points to draw level.
Meanwhile Lancashire 153 points play Middlesex next week. If they lose (Middlesex are going for the title), then they are in the mix. The last CC game at home v Lancs if going to be interesting.
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Providing Surrey don't collapse in their 2nd innings, their game v Hampshire should end in a draw. If they get another batting point and 5 points for the draw. That takes them to 145 points.
We have 156.
Hampshire's last game is v Durham at home, the maximum they can get is 24 points taking them 169. Meaning we will have to get 13 points to draw level.
Meanwhile Lancashire 153 points play Middlesex next week. If they lose (Middlesex are going for the title), then they are in the mix. The last CC game at home v Lancs if going to be interesting.
Which means hopefully it won't be a day/nighter.
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Durham collapsing 236/8 now. They have a game in hand on us so would still like to see these beaten put the pressure on them
when they face Surrey on Monday
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Durham collapsing 236/8 now. They have a game in hand on us so would still like to see these beaten put the pressure on them
when they face Surrey on Monday
If they lose will only take 4 pts from match assuming they get to 250 which would leave them 2 behind us with the game v Surrey in hand.
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Durham all out 265, Yorkshire lead by 195 but haven't enforced the follow on. Patterson isn't at the ground today due to a family problem so we are a bowler down and I guess that is the reason for batting again.
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Durham all out 265, Yorkshire lead by 195 but haven't enforced the follow on. Patterson isn't at the ground today due to a family problem so we are a bowler down and I guess that is the reason for batting again.
Notts also lost a 2nd wicket 106/2 Mullaney LBW Rayner 64
Rayner maybe in with a shot of tour place as 3rd spinner...bowling well of late!!!
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Latest:
Notts 162/5 a lead of 156 could do with last 5 going sharpish
Yorks 95/0 Lead 290
Hants 396/5 Lead 67 and guaranteed 7 bonus points
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Getting interesting at TB ...Notts now 170/6 lead 164
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Notts 198/ 7 should be 8 Hutton dropped at 1st slip. Lead 192
Yorks 151/0
Lyth 83
Lees 66
Lead 346
Hants 450/6 lead 121...nuisance that is especially if get lead over 200
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Notts 200/8 194 lead
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Hampshire and Notts could both win. All kinds of fucked if the former does, especially.
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Notts all out 240 Middlsex require 235 to win with i believe 21 overs to face tonight.
Come out tonight more or less unscathed hopefully. Intriguing viewing actually
Hants moved onto 496/7 lead of 167....squeaky bum time for us on this one tomorrow. Surrey just got to bay all
day. 2 results possible Hants win or hopefully Surrey can get the draw. If draw Hants will take 12 points out the game
Yorks lead up to 420 now with 9 remaining. This match more or less immaterial to Bears now but hopefully a Tyke win
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Yorkshire declared on 225/2 a lead of 420
Lyth 114 *
Middlesex repeating what happened in first innings 0/1
Gubbins Ct Read b Ball 0
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The club stated that the game would not be day/night if championship or relegation issues were involved.
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The club stated that the game would not be day/night if championship or relegation issues were involved.
There are gonna be issues so cannot be day/night. I certainly don't want it...too cold.
Hants 213 lead
Middx 12/1
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Durham 17/1 require another 404!!!
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Notts 13/2
Robson b Ball 2 Just left it alone...took him
222 still req'd
Kin 'ell
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Andrew scored 6-4-4-6 against Foottit on his last over!
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Hants 572/9 Lead 243
Sean Ervine 158*
Durham 18/2
Jennings followed Stoneman 8
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Hants have declared at 582/9
Surrey require 252 runs to make Hants bat again....fingers crossed...got to face 9 overs tonight
Middx 19/2
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Not going well
Middx 25/3
Malan LBW Ball 11
Ball 3/17 now
Durham 30/2
Surrey started their 2nd innings and are 5/0
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Close of play at the Oval
Surrey 23/0
230 behind
Close at Durham 39/3 miles behind
Middx 44/3 with 2 overs left 190 behind
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Close of play at the Oval
Surrey 23/0
230 behind
Close at Durham 39/3 miles behind
Middx 44/3 with 2 overs left 190 behind
Close at TB 48/3 187 more to win
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The club stated that the game would not be day/night if championship or relegation issues were involved.
There are gonna be issues so cannot be day/night. I certainly don't want it...too cold.
Hants 213 lead
Middx 12/1
Wear a coat you big softie! I'd like it if it was day night might pop to the crucial session after work.
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The club stated that the game would not be day/night if championship or relegation issues were involved.
There are gonna be issues so cannot be day/night. I certainly don't want it...too cold.
Hants 213 lead
Middx 12/1
Wear a coat you big softie! I'd like it if it was day night might pop to the crucial session after work.
I'll have u know i'm a big rock hard Villa fan!!!!
It won't be happening now anyway with us well embroiled in the relegation melee!!
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Chopra has been released early from his contract and will play for Essex for the rest of this season
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Can't we loan him to whoever is playing Hampshire?
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Chopra has been released early from his contract and will play for Essex for the rest of this season
Why not eh? We've just scored 123 and 152.
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Lunch time scores:
In the balance at TB where Middx are:
151/5 still needing a further 84 to secure a vital victory for us. Not a bad recovery i suppose from where they were.
Durham 129/7 still 292 to win. Safely say that Yorks will get requisite 3 wkts to win that one
Surrey 108/2 still trail by 145. Just need them to bat out the day to secure the draw.
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Would be a bit of a miracle if we get away with Middlesex winning, Yorkshire winning and Surrey drawing.
Would be nice if we could actually win a game ourselves.
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Chopra has been released early from his contract and will play for Essex for the rest of this season
Why not eh? We've just scored 123 and 152.
Exactly. Essex are 99% promoted, if they replace us, then Brown/whoever has made this decision could be left with egg on their faces. As we throw two kids in to our top 6 which has struggled to score runs for a while.
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Middx moved onto 189/5 46 required
Durham 155/8 done for
Surrey 135/2 118 behind looking like a draw...session and a half to go
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John Simpson 50 for Middx 197/5 also 50 partnership with Franklin
38 more needed
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So looking like Notts will go down today which will leave several counties trying to avoid that other spot - us Hants Durham Lancs I think but the latter two have a game in hand.
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http://www.ecbtv.co.uk/video/i/680462/title/24-may-somerset-v-warwickshire-day-1/f/county:somerset
http://www.ecbtv.co.uk/video/i/680651/title/5-june-warwickshire-v-somerset-day-2
http://www.ecbtv.co.uk/video/i/680692/title/6-june-warks-v-somerset-day-3-kartik-magic-haunts-warwickshire
See how bad for yourselves....Middx 200/5 35 more
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Forget the above thats the home game....i'll sort
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That should be better.
Middx now have won by 5 wickets
58* Simpson
54* Franklin
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/county-championship-division-one/table
Updated table which confirms Notts relegation
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Chopra has been released early from his contract and will play for Essex for the rest of this season
Why not eh? We've just scored 123 and 152.
Are we hard up enough to want to save his wages rather than pay him to score runs for us ?
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Surely Evans Porterfield Javid are options for the last game and Ambrose should be fit too.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/county-championship-division-one/table
Updated table which confirms Notts relegation
With Yorkshire win also now
Surrey 181/2 6.3 overs till tea
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Things looking a lot better than yesterday. So long as Surrey don't collapse.
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As I was posting that they lost a wicket. 😠
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Surrey have lost Harinath Ct McManus b Ervine 57
Sangakarra 60*
Davies in
Surrey trail by 62
100 partnership between those 2 shame not 150
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Tea at the Oval
215/3 they trail by 38 with a minimum of 33 overs left.
Think we can safely say that Hants will take 12 points from the game giving them 148.
With a home game against Durham on 20/9.
Durham though have a home game v Surrey on 12/9 so could conceivably be safe by time they play Hants
We just have to ensure we match Hants result when we play Lancs at home.
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Surrey game delayed by rain now, scores almost level. Will surely be a draw now.
Think we've been quite lucky with the scores today thankfully.
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Surrey 248-3
Sangakkarra 84
Davis 29
Raining with Surrey 5 behind.
22.2 overs left...any overs lost now are just that lost.
Commentators saying that it's set and won't come back out.
Incidentally Sri Lanka made 128/9 in their 20 overs in the 2nd T20 v Aussies.
Tillakaratne Dilshan's last ever International appearance and unfortunately for the cricket public and himself he was out
Ct Warner b Hastings 1
Not exactly a great end to his international career.
The big heavy covers being brought on at the Oval.
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Surrey 248-3
Sangakkarra 84
Davis 29
Raining with Surrey 5 behind.
22.2 overs left...any overs lost now are just that lost.
Commentators saying that it's set and won't come back out.
Incidentally Sri Lanka made 128/9 in their 20 overs in the 2nd T20 v Aussies.
Tillakaratne Dilshan's last ever International appearance and unfortunately for the cricket public and himself he was out
Ct Warner b Hastings 1
Not exactly a great end to his international career.
The big heavy covers being brought on at the Oval.
Match drawn
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/county-championship-division-one/table
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Is the text at the bottom of the Championship table correct? Why are two sides going down and only one coming up? That would leave one division with 8 teams and the other with 11
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Hampshire game ended as a draw so they are 8 points behind us going into the last game of the season. Interestingly, they have a better record than us (both only 2 wins, but they have 1 less defeat), it's only bonus points which is our saving grace.
Last game it's:
Hampshire v Durham
Warwicks v Lancs
If they win, we will need a win too.
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Is the text at the bottom of the Championship table correct? Why are two sides going down and only one coming up? That would leave one division with 8 teams and the other with 11
It's correct, 8 in Div 1 from next season, 10 in Div 2.
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Is the text at the bottom of the Championship table correct? Why are two sides going down and only one coming up? That would leave one division with 8 teams and the other with 11
It's correct, 8 in Div 1 from next season, 10 in Div 2.
I didn't know that - thanks.
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Is the text at the bottom of the Championship table correct? Why are two sides going down and only one coming up? That would leave one division with 8 teams and the other with 11
It's correct, 8 in Div 1 from next season, 10 in Div 2.
Do you know the reasoning behind this?
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Is the text at the bottom of the Championship table correct? Why are two sides going down and only one coming up? That would leave one division with 8 teams and the other with 11
It's correct, 8 in Div 1 from next season, 10 in Div 2.
Do you know the reasoning behind this?
In theory its around the England cricketers getting more rest by playing less 4 day cricket on the premise that the majority of England players
play in the top division...notts blew that out the water earlier today. There are mitigating circumstances as well. Trying to find an article i read which i will post if i find.
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How does that work when the England contracted players play bugger-all County cricket of any description?
*baffled of Tunbridge Wells*
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Think we've been quite lucky with the scores today thankfully.
I disagree, there's nothing lucky about teams that aren't as good as us (according to the current table) getting results as bad as ours in the main. I started to type something about this yesterday but wimped out in case it was tempting fate. The reality is that Hampshire have the worst bowling attack in the league. Them failing to bowl a team out isn't luck it's an explanation for why they're 8th in the table. Notts are bottom for a reason and middlesex are top for a reason that result going as it did is no great shock.
We're not in a great spot, that's fairly clear, but neither are Hampshire and that 8 point cushion is significant.
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Is the text at the bottom of the Championship table correct? Why are two sides going down and only one coming up? That would leave one division with 8 teams and the other with 11
It's correct, 8 in Div 1 from next season, 10 in Div 2.
Do you know the reasoning behind this?
To reduce the number of games from sixteen to fourteen. This will affect both divisions (Division Two teams won't play every other side in the league twice).
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http://www.ecb.co.uk/news/articles/ecb-board-agrees-new-shape-county-game
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Is the text at the bottom of the Championship table correct? Why are two sides going down and only one coming up? That would leave one division with 8 teams and the other with 11
It's correct, 8 in Div 1 from next season, 10 in Div 2.
Do you know the reasoning behind this?
To reduce the number of games from sixteen to fourteen. This will affect both divisions (Division Two teams won't play every other side in the league twice).
Well yeah I guessed it would reduce the number if games but I didn't at all believe the reasoning could be england players because as mentioned above they play close to naff all anyway. They mainly play at the start of the season and that's it. I can't possibly see how this will reduce that. Not that it needs to anyway.
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Is the text at the bottom of the Championship table correct? Why are two sides going down and only one coming up? That would leave one division with 8 teams and the other with 11
It's correct, 8 in Div 1 from next season, 10 in Div 2.
Do you know the reasoning behind this?
To reduce the number of games from sixteen to fourteen. This will affect both divisions (Division Two teams won't play every other side in the league twice).
Well yeah I guessed it would reduce the number if games but I didn't at all believe the reasoning could be england players because as mentioned above they play close to naff all anyway. They mainly play at the start of the season and that's it. I can't possibly see how this will reduce that. Not that it needs to anyway.
If it means the season starts a couple of weeks later than I'm in favour, as I said early in this thread the early games are a complete waste of time in my opinion because the weather controls the result more than the performances. If this sees a reduction in the number of games played in those conditions then it can only be seen as a benefit for me.
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How does that work when the England contracted players play bugger-all County cricket of any description?
*baffled of Tunbridge Wells*
Another baffled one here.
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The 8 team top division is so that if they ever get to the point that the 8 teams are the test ground counties they'll abolish promotion / relegation in an instant....I might be cynical :-)
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In this important round of matches lunch time scores:
Durham 110/2 31 V Surrey
Middx 93/0 31 overs v Lancs
Yorks 90/4 32.1 v Somerset
A very good morning for Somerset in the title race.
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In this important round of matches lunch time scores:
Durham 110/2 31 V Surrey
Middx 93/0 31 overs v Lancs
Yorks 90/4 32.1 v Somerset
A very good morning for Somerset in the title race.
Even better for Middlesex though.
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In this important round of matches lunch time scores:
Durham 110/2 31 V Surrey
Middx 93/0 31 overs v Lancs
Yorks 90/4 32.1 v Somerset
A very good morning for Somerset in the title race.
Even better for Middlesex though.
I offer no apology here Chris but i don't want Yorks to win title, i know chances are really slim but would love it if Somerset could come
through the pack. Highly unlikely and they would have to give Yorks a right good hiding.
The game between the top 2 next week obviously the crucial game.
Yorks have had enough championship success over last couple of years....and the crowing about how done it without a few regulars to
England!!!! Sorry Chris...i daresay i'm not alone. Does show what a great job Gillespie has done up there. A hard act to follow!!!
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In this important round of matches lunch time scores:
Durham 110/2 31 V Surrey
Middx 93/0 31 overs v Lancs
Yorks 90/4 32.1 v Somerset
A very good morning for Somerset in the title race.
Even better for Middlesex though.
I offer no apology here Chris but i don't want Yorks to win title, i know chances are really slim but would love it if Somerset could come
through the pack. Highly unlikely and they would have to give Yorks a right good hiding.
The game between the top 2 next week obviously the crucial game.
Yorks have had enough championship success over last couple of years....and the crowing about how done it without a few regulars to
England!!!! Sorry Chris...i daresay i'm not alone. Does show what a great job Gillespie has done up there. A hard act to follow!!!
I'd rather Yorkshire didn't win it either. My Dad's a Yorkshire fan and whenever Warwickshire beat them in other formats (e.g hammered them when we went to Headingley in the 50-over cup this season), he always refers back to the Championship and how other formats 'aren't proper cricket'. At least if they weren't winning the Championship they wouldn't have a fallback when they more often than not do badly in the other 2 formats.
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It's not proper cricket!
I like the 50 over format but have no interest whatsoever in the 20 over stuff.
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I think all 3 formats bring something to the sport and the game has improved as a result of T20. I hope the long term result will be that we'll see more players who have the skillset and mentality to excel at all forms of the game.
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It's not proper cricket!
I like the 50 over format but have no interest whatsoever in the 20 over stuff.
What about when a 50 over game is reduced to twenty per side due to rain? Would you walk out in disgust? (After stopping to not clap the opposition and generally behaving like a bounder, obviously).
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Good day for Durham, who will pick up their 5th bonus point if they can add 7 runs for their last wicket tomorrow.
If the Bears last home game was away, I would be more confident that the 8 point lead over Hants would see us safe, but we have not won a CC game at Edgbaston this season.
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It's not proper cricket!
I like the 50 over format but have no interest whatsoever in the 20 over stuff.
What about when a 50 over game is reduced to twenty per side due to rain? Would you walk out in disgust? (After stopping to not clap the opposition and generally behaving like a bounder, obviously).
Being a stereotypical know all, tight fisted Yorkshireman, I'd check several weather forecasts before ensuring I'd get my full amount of overs before handing over any cash.
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Nearly hour gone this morning latest score:
Durham 401 Surrey 29/1 7.3 With maximum batting points Durham gone above Bears
Yorks 145 Somerset 136/3 39.5
Middx 281/6 101.4 Middx struggling to amass batting points to take advantage of Yorks failures. May get 3
Worcester 306 Sussex 119/7 24.3
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Poor morning for us so far with Durham getting the fifth batting point and taking an early wicket while Lancashire are fighting back.
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Varun Chopra just gone in to open the batting for Essex 9/0 ...he hasn't scored yet. Chasing 286.
Just got off the mark. 10/0.
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Quite enjoyed watching Cricinfo to see if Middlesex could get the 3 runs required from the 110th over for a 3rd batting point. They got a boundary off the fourth delivery.
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Varun Chopra just gone in to open the batting for Essex 9/0 ...he hasn't scored yet. Chasing 286.
Just got off the mark. 10/0.
Chopra took his bears form with him:
Lbw Meschede 1
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Lunch scores:
Durham 401 Surrey 75/1 24
Middx 327 119.4
Yorks 145 Somerset 218/4 57
Worc 306 Sussex 197/8
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Can't see Durham or Lancs winning so hoping they don't rack up too may bonus points.
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Lancs imploding 40 for 5
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Latest:
Yorks 145 Somerset 334/6 85 Lead 189
Durham 401 Surrey 151/3 48.2
Middx 327 Lancs 57/5 21 Bad light stopped play
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I, for one, am shocked that bad light intervened when things were starting to look better for Warwickshire's hopes.
Fuck it, move the entire league to Dubai next year.
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Up dates
Durham 401 Surrey 185/3 60
Middx 327 Lancs 91/5 31.4
Yorks 145 Somerset 384/9 97.3 Lead of 239
Worc 306 & 93/5 Sussex 229
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Somerset with a big lead of 245 over Yorkshire after the first innings, but they couldn't quite get the last batting point.
Still no more wickets for Middlesex against Lancashire.
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Further update
Durham 401 Surrey 264/4 76.2
Roy 114*
Middx 327 Lancs 102/5 38 Bad Light again
Yorks 145 & 23/2 Somerset 390 Yorks 222 behind
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Close of play scores:
Middx 327 Lancs 102/5 38
Yorks 145 57/3 Somerset 390 lead by 188
Durham 401 Surrey 296/7 Still 8 balls to go
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Hurrah for my home county Essex, back in the top division. :)
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Hopefully see you there next season!
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Hopefully see you there next season!
So do I. I have a soft spot for the Bears and after Essex always look out for their results (sorry Chris J).
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Essex massively deserve that promotion, consistent all season well done!
See Steven Davies is leaving Surrey, presume he wants to keep as well as batting to make that decision, would have loved to get him back to New Road if he just wanted to bat in the middle order but Cox is way better keeper & Joe Clarke also has keeper / batsman ambitions.
Any other local county looking for a new keeper? :-)
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Essex massively deserve that promotion, consistent all season well done!
See Steven Davies is leaving Surrey, presume he wants to keep as well as batting to make that decision, would have loved to get him back to New Road if he just wanted to bat in the middle order but Cox is way better keeper & Joe Clarke also has keeper / batsman ambitions.
Any other local county looking for a new keeper? :-)
I'd take him at Edgbaston no question. Even if he isn't as good a keeper as Ambrose, his batting will more than make up for that, quality number 5.
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Tykes have lost their first wkt of the morning. It's Adam Lyth as well out for 49
109/4 still 136 behind. Got their work cut out to save this one....will it be Bresnan to the rescue??
Middx 327 Lancs 133/5 Still 194 behind
Durham 401 Surrey 347/8
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Tykes have lost their first wkt of the morning. It's Adam Lyth as well out for 49
109/4 still 136 behind. Got their work cut out to save this one....will it be Bresnan to the rescue??
Middx 327 Lancs 133/5 Still 194 behind
Durham 401 Surrey 347/8
Yorks 126/5
Lancs 150/6
Surrey 367/9
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Lunch:
Yorks 155/5 90 behind
Durham 40/1 74 ahead
Lancs 168/6 159 behind
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Saw something earlier about Davies looking to leave Surrey.
Would love to see him at Warwickshire next year.
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Somerset need just 42 runs to beat Yorkshire.
Durham with a handy lead over Surrey. Durham lead by 243 with 4 wickets remaining.
Middlesex favourites, but Lancashire still in it. Middlesex 104 ahead, with 8 wickets remaining.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/37365637
The inevitable city based T20 competition looks certain to happen. I said it ages ago that it was a great move for us to rebrand as the Birmingham Bears, virtually guaranteeing a Birmingham team (granted we were probably guaranteed anyway).
Firstly, who is the 19th vote?
Secondly, this is to run alongside the existing competition. Erm, OK, that will last for long.
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Looking forward to seeing how a team called Leeds gets along with most Yorkshire supporters.
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Perhaps they'll fudge it as Headingley Heat and hope no-one notices it's in Leeds...
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If Warwickshire go down, there will be severe financial consequences if what I have heard from members who should know is to be believed. Durham would be fucked beyond doubt.
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Surprised at that. I wouldn't have thought the crowds in County Championship make much difference to the clubs' financial outlook nowadays, is the prize/sponsorship money much different?
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Surrey want 281 to win v Durham...2.5 sessions to do it.
Durham all out 246
Middx 96/4 lead 164
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Surrey now 21/3....succumbing to pace...Onions with 3rd
Middx 122/4 lead 190. Lancs keeping run rate well under control though
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Lunch:
Surrey 57/3 224 more to win
Middx 167/4 Lead 235
Essex 92/1 Chopra 58* 172 more to win
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Middx have declared on 240/8
Lancs require 309 to win in a session and a half....draw.
Meanwhile:
Surrey 120/3 require 162 with that same session and a half. Providing keep wickets in hand should do that.
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Tea
Surrey 168/4 113 more needed
Roy 96*
Lancs 34/1 275 to win....can Middx get 9 wkts in a session
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Surrey game is quite exciting, could go either way.
Can't see Middlesex taking the 9 wickets, but you never know.
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204/5 Surrey 77 to win 31.1 overs
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Lancs & Middx called it a draw
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/county-championship-division-one/table
Lancs 6 pts ahead of Bears
Surrey 217/5 64 to win
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If Surrey don't get the runs in time but are close, is there a chance that play could be extended by half an hour PGW?
Or if Durham get more wickets, they've just taken the 6th wicket.
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Surrey 222/6
Foakes Ct Collingwood b Stokes 20
Double Nelson strikes
59 off 21.4 req'd
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222/7
Tom Curran Ct Poynter b Stokes 0
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Oo er missus!
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251/8
Batty Ct Jennings b Stokes 12
Sam Curran 47*
29 to win
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Meaker Ct Collingwood b Onions 0
253/9 28 to win
Mark Footitt rarely troubles the scorers
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Surrey all out. Durham safe. Between us, Hampshire and Lancashire for the second and final relegation spot.
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259 all out
Footitt b Stokes 4
Durham win an outstanding game of cricket and will be playing Div 1 cricket next season.
24 points for the win by 21 runs.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/county-championship-division-one/table
Updated table
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Surrey all out. Durham safe. Between us, Hampshire and Lancashire for the second and final relegation spot.
The final on Saturday (heading down to Lord's - £55 for ticket and return coach journey from Edgbaston not bad at all) might be a chance to salvage something from what has been a generally poor season.
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Surrey all out. Durham safe. Between us, Hampshire and Lancashire for the second and final relegation spot.
The final on Saturday (heading down to Lord's - £55 for ticket and return coach journey from Edgbaston not bad at all) might be a chance to salvage something from what has been a generally poor season.
I'm going too, hope the weather is better than today! Think we could do a Blues, win the cup, then get relegated. I'd actually prefer that than losing the Cup Final and staying up.
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Dry and cloudy in London most of tomorrow morning.
Let's hope it's not decided on the toss.
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Dry and cloudy in London most of tomorrow morning.
Let's hope it's not decided on the toss.
Unless the conditions really dictate it, I'd like to see us bat first. Bell and Trott to get scores to post something between 270-300, then scoreboard pressure and Jeetan does his thing.
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Dry and cloudy in London most of tomorrow morning.
Let's hope it's not decided on the toss.
Unless the conditions really dictate it, I'd like to see us bat first. Bell and Trott to get scores to post something between 270-300, then scoreboard pressure and Jeetan does his thing.
Not sure if your right there...In theory that is our doctrine of late but Lords is notorious for playing up early doors...2014 Durham game prime example. Certainly be watching that toss with interest.
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Dry and cloudy in London most of tomorrow morning.
Let's hope it's not decided on the toss.
Unless the conditions really dictate it, I'd like to see us bat first. Bell and Trott to get scores to post something between 270-300, then scoreboard pressure and Jeetan does his thing.
Not sure if your right there...In theory that is our doctrine of late but Lords is notorious for playing up early doors...2014 Durham game prime example. Certainly be watching that toss with interest.
Got to agree, a cloudy day in the middle of September at Lords, got to have a bowl.
Let Rikki do his thing against his former club.
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I'm with PGW, have a bowl first if it's our choice.
Warwickshire Squad
Ian Bell (Captain)
Tim Ambrose (Wicket-Keeper)
Rikki Clarke
Laurie Evans
Sam Hain
Oliver Hannon-Dalby
Ateeq Javid
Alex Mellor (Wicket-Keeper)
Jeetan Patel
William Porterfield
Josh Poysden
Jonathan Trott
Chris Woakes
Chris Wright
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Dougie Brown admits that Warwickshire face some tricky selection decisions ahead of their Royal London Cup final against Surrey at Lord's tomorrow - but says they are the sort of decisions that any side would welcome.
The Bears have powered to the 50-over final largely without the services of England all-rounder Chris Woakes, who has played just one game in the tournament this season, and sometimes without Ireland captain and top-order batsman William Porterfield.
But both are available tomorrow, which means that at least two changes will have to be made from the team which beat Somerset at Edgbaston in the semi-final. Two players will be disappointed to be left watching from the sidelines - but that is an inevitable consequence of having a strong competitive squad.
"We have a couple of decisions to make with everybody being available, but those are the decisions you want as a coach and captain," said director of cricket Brown. "Will Porterfield is available to come into the top five and Chris Woakes is obviously a top-class option to have as a wicket-taking bowler.
"We will have a look at the pitch and likely conditions, because you never quite know what you are going to get at Lord's these days, and then name the team. Then we will have to have a couple of conversations with players who miss out, but that's sport at this level. Everybody in the squad understands that we will just pick the team we think gives us the best chance of winning the trophy.
"Selection-wise, we are well-covered in all departments and that's a really good situation to be in."
An enthralling match is in prospect against a Surrey side showing increasing signs this season of putting a low-key era behind them in all formats. They are a strong, experienced, talented team in fine form in 50-over cricket - but so are the Bears, insists Brown.
"Our championship form this season has too often been disappointing, there's no getting away from that," he said. "But in 50-over cricket we have played really well all through and got better as the tournament has gone on. Our top five batsmen have scored the runs, which is the way you want it, laying the foundation for the guys later on to improvise and accelerate. Then the bowlers have taken wickets so that very rarely have we been needing to bowl big death overs.
"Surrey are similar to us, in terms of both method and form, so it is a very even-looking contest and should be a cracking game."
Alex Mellor has been included in the Bears' squad, though Tim Ambrose is expected to be fit to keep wicket after the buttock-strain which has sidelined him for the last two weeks.
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I'm with PGW, have a bowl first if it's our choice.
Warwickshire Squad
Ian Bell (Captain)
Tim Ambrose (Wicket-Keeper)
Rikki Clarke
Laurie Evans
Sam Hain
Oliver Hannon-Dalby
Ateeq Javid
Alex Mellor (Wicket-Keeper)
Jeetan Patel
William Porterfield
Josh Poysden
Jonathan Trott
Chris Woakes
Chris Wright
I think I'd also lean towards bowling because I'd back Woakes, Clarke and Wright to get early wickets under the clouds on (I suspect)a slightly green pitch. However I don't think it'd be a bad toss to lose because I'm there's a right answer at Lords, you can get some movement off the seam early on but if we don't get that we'll have given up our other big weapon.
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Barker injured? Aside from tomorrow I see Stokes bowled for Durham. Will Woakes be released for the Lancs game? It's such an important match. I won't be too happy if he's kept out.
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Bell loses another toss...we are bowling...Batty elected to bat.
Woakes in for Poysden. Ambrose fit to play
Hain, Trott, Bell, Evans, Ambrose, Clarke, Javid, Patel, Woakes, Wright, OHD
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Only just realised it's a 10:30, rather than 11:00am start.
We never win the toss.
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Barker injured? Aside from tomorrow I see Stokes bowled for Durham. Will Woakes be released for the Lancs game? It's such an important match. I won't be too happy if he's kept out.
Bears have already been told that they can't play him. I daresay Durham were allowed to play Stokes because he has missed so much cricket through injury of late.
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Cdbullyweefan is at this match today. Well he will be in about an hour....
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Surrey batting ...that's a good decision for the Bears.
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Good start both their openers gone. Now plan required for Sangakkara.
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coyb
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129/8...No chickens being counted here!!!
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136 all out
Wow. COYB.
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Outstanding bowling figures with exception of Rikki who bowled at start when Surrey tried to dominate in powerplay.
Woakes took a bit of tap then as well with Surrey going at 7 an over. Got control and that was that. Figures are:
Clarke 3 0 24 0
Woakes 9.1 2 24 3
Wright 6 1 17 1
Javid 5 0 15 2
OHD 8 0 27 2
Patel 9 1 28 2
OHD was absolutely outstanding in the first half dozen of his spell. Quality stuff.
We all now what Bears are capable of with bat in hand!!!
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As I said, not a bad toss to lose because teams always seem to think Lords will be good to bat first on and sometimes it just isn't.
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I thought Wright turned it around and Woakes bowled better then. Ball would have gone softer after the opening power play, making it tougher for batting.
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You Bears
Great win, top bowling and a lovely knock from Trott, just need the Villa to win now.
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Brilliant win, great bowling and then sensible with the bat by Trott.
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What a great win and a wonderful performance from our attack.
OHD deserves huge credit, he gets real stick on here but showed again today that in crunch games he can be relied on.
It was really nice to see the players go into the crowd after the presentation ceremony. I think the game has lost something by preventing the fans from getting on the pitch at the end.
Did anyone else think that the trophy looked cheap and nasty? It reminded me of one of those plastic subbuteo replicas that you used to be able to buy.
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Just got back from Lord's. Great day down there and obviously great to get the win. Thought Evans' catch really turned things around as Surrey were flying at that point. I've often been a critic of his, but OHD's first spell today was superb and along with Wright, Woakes, Javid and Patel, they blew Surrey away. A low total in a 50 over game is just made for Trott and he looked like he was having a net at times.
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Excellent performance.
Particularly happy for Hobbly Dobbly and Chris Wright. OHD's chest-on action works well on wickets like this where the batsmen have to move around in their cease. I have watched a lot of county cricket inn the last 5 years, and I very much doubt that any bowler puts in more effort than Wright.
Major kudos to Ian Bell's captaincy as well.
The situation was made for Trott, and he did us proud.
Tuesday is going to be massive for the club, and much more important than today.
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You Bears
Great win, top bowling and a lovely knock from Trott, just need the Villa to win now.
Yes, you can always rely on Villa to take the edge off the day! Well done you Bears! OHD was outstanding, along with Jeets, Woakes and Trott, plus Ateeq did very well with the ball.
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Great win yesterday with some fantastic performances.
However I hope it's not the Bears "Liverpool semi-final" moment. The overall performances in the championship and T20 have not been good enough. Even if we survive in division one let's not paper over some pretty horrendous cricket recently.
Remember Somerset, rolled for 94 and we Still lost comfortably
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We had a great day at Lords yesterday. A fantastic all round performance from the lads. I have to say the support was great from the first to the last delivery; we didn't hear a peep from the Surrey faithful.
Well done Bears! Now win v Lancs.
Ps My head hurts.
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Looks like Yorkshire have finally had enough of the ECB after issuing a statement about their request to play Bairstow in the final game. "He's played five days of cricket in five weeks since the Oval Test match."
Rashid asked to be 'rested' no doubt under instructions from Strauss and co.
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We had a great day at Lords yesterday. A fantastic all round performance from the lads. I have to say the support was great from the first to the last delivery; we didn't hear a peep from the Surrey faithful.
Well done Bears! Now win v Lancs.
Ps My head hurts.
Loved the "no noise from the Tory boys chant"!!
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Looks like Yorkshire have finally had enough of the ECB after issuing a statement about their request to play Bairstow in the final game. "He's played five days of cricket in five weeks since the Oval Test match."
Rashid asked to be 'rested' no doubt under instructions from Strauss and co.
That's really quite poor, with so much at stake.
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Looks like Yorkshire have finally had enough of the ECB after issuing a statement about their request to play Bairstow in the final game. "He's played five days of cricket in five weeks since the Oval Test match."
Rashid asked to be 'rested' no doubt under instructions from Strauss and co.
That's really quite poor, with so much at stake.
Bairstow wants to play and isn't centrally contracted, understandable that Yorkshire are so unhappy. As for Rashid, think he might have played his last game for the county, incredible that he doesn't wish to play in the biggest match of the season and his captain is clearly not happy.
Can't see Yorkshire winning it but would be nice to give Somerset a helping hand.
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Andrew Gale is none too happy with Rashid by the sounds of it:
Yes, he wants to rest. That's his decision. I'll take 11 lads on the field who will give everything to win.
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Andrew Gale is none too happy with Rashid by the sounds of it:
Yes, he wants to rest. That's his decision. I'll take 11 lads on the field who will give everything to win.
Think Rashid is going to be at another county next season.
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I find this dictatorial stance from the selectors really annoying. In our case, Woakes should be playing in such an important game. Can't they occasionally let the player decide?
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With Woakes I'd love him to play but I can understand it given England rested him towards the end of the summer because he was feeling the strain of it but Rashid and Bairstow it really makes no sense and as you say they should let the players have some say in it.
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Central contracts ... he who pays the piper and all that, so i get the Woakes thing as has been said previously.
i can sort of understand the Bairstow decision as well, played in all the tests this summer and two or three of the fifty over games, and he's been keeping wicket in the tests. He's probably one of England's top three batsman, an injury off one flying from a length wouldn't be too popular.
But Rashid is a bizarre decision by the player. he could help his side to a third straight championship, bowl himself into a bit of form following being left out of the test matches and some limited over games. Its not as if theyre going to be playing at Hull or Pontypridd in the cold, rather "the home of cricket", so fantastic facilities and a decent night out afterwards!!
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The problem with the Bairstow one is that he's not on a central contract and has played 5 days in 5 weeks, he really shouldn't need to be rested. I do get the injury risk but when it's an important game for the county I don't think England should wrap players up for a reason like that.
I genuinely think the balance between the ECB and the Counties has been really good for the last 10 years in the main but when they get it wrong they make a real mess of it.
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Great day out at Lords on Saturday, personally aren't that bothered if we get relegated now, that has made the season for me.
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http://www.espncricinfo.com/county-cricket-2016/content/story/1057619.html?CMP=NLC-DLY
Article by George Dobell on Trotty
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Rashid has issued a statement stating a relative is ill and that is the reason he is unavailable, although he does also state that he's played so much cricket that he needs the rest. So which one is it Adil?
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http://www.espncricinfo.com/county-cricket-2016/content/story/1057619.html?CMP=NLC-DLY
Article by George Dobell on Trotty
That's a great article. Dobell is a sensitive and knowledgeable writer on the game. I will certainly buy the book.
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http://www.espncricinfo.com/county-cricket-2016/content/story/1057619.html?CMP=NLC-DLY
Article by George Dobell on Trotty
Thanks for that. I'll be putting that book on my wish list, sure to be a compelling read.
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Great day out at Lords on Saturday, personally aren't that bothered if we get relegated now, that has made the season for me.
There's a fair gap in finances between the 2 divisions. The Bears still owe a large chunk of the loan to the Council for the new pavilion. So you can't say it doesn't matter. I prefer the Bears in the top division, which they should be given the size of the club.
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Great day out at Lords on Saturday, personally aren't that bothered if we get relegated now, that has made the season for me.
There's a fair gap in finances between the 2 divisions. The Bears still owe a large chunk of the loan to the Council for the new pavilion. So you can't say it doesn't matter. I prefer the Bears in the top division, which they should be given the size of the club.
It doesn't matter a great deal to me, the club and many supporters will feel differently. I'd rather win a trophy and get relegated, than win nothing and tread water one place above relegation. We could bounce back in a season or two no problem.
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George Dobell is a fine cricket writer, another book to add to my wish list then.
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George Dobell is a fine cricket writer, another book to add to my wish list then.
I think its out this week to coincide with the last game of the season. Well that was the plan i believe.
I daresay Trotty will be doing some signings in shop at close of play.
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13 man squad for tomorrow:
Bell, Ambrose, Barker, Clarke, Hain, OHD, Javid, Mellor, Patel, Poysden, Trott , Wright and Westwood.
I was gonna be a little devilish to upset CJ and add Woakes' name to the list!!!
Couldn't bring myself to do it,
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Great day out at Lords on Saturday, personally aren't that bothered if we get relegated now, that has made the season for me.
There's a fair gap in finances between the 2 divisions. The Bears still owe a large chunk of the loan to the Council for the new pavilion. So you can't say it doesn't matter. I prefer the Bears in the top division, which they should be given the size of the club.
It doesn't matter a great deal to me, the club and many supporters will feel differently. I'd rather win a trophy and get relegated, than win nothing and tread water one place above relegation. We could bounce back in a season or two no problem.
The financial stability of the club has to be taken into account surely? Relegation is a big backwards step these days - not quite like the Premier League in Football, but it does matter.
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I was gonna be a little devilish to upset CJ and add Woakes' name to the list!!!
Couldn't bring myself to do it,
Strauss has cleared him to play for Middlesex!
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Interesting eleven for Yorkshire with three batsmen including the captain Gale who is out of form.
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Nervous. Come on you Bears!
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Westwood out lbw 4th ball. 0/1.
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Hangs out in by Durham uncontested.
Mellie nice boundary 6/1
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Team Westwood, Mellor, Trott, Bell, Hain, Ambrose, Clarke, Barker, Patel, Wright, OHD
21/1
Mellor 16 , Trott 5
From scorecard Poysden left out
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Mellor out for 27 edging to slips. Bailey again did the damage. 43 for 2.
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I'd forgotten how much I hate Charles Coleville.
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Bell has surpassed Trott's score from 48 fewer balls. Hants cruising along at 85/0.
We are 67/2.
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Gubbins looks a decent player.
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Hants 100/0.
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The Yorkies are going to have to bowl well in their game, Bresnan at 5 and Hodd at 6 looks a recipe for disaster.
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Trott gone now for 25, 5 minutes before lunch. 80/3.
On the bright side we may have a trip to New Road next season.
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Trott CT Croft b Clark 25
81/3 Bell 23. Gain 1
Hangs 111/1,
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Hain survives lbw appeal from Kerrigan
83/3 30 overs lunch
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Hain survives lbw appeal from Kerrigan
83/3 30 overs lunch
How many have turned up to watch PGW?
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so we have gone a whole season without winning the toss
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So it could be the hat-rick this week of Villa, Moseley and Warwickshire dropping down a division in the same year. Has that ever happened before?! I support all three so I'm clearly to blame. I hate sport these days I really do!!
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It's not the biggest crowd I've seen, I myself am sat down inside David Heath lounge along with a fair amount of others and I imagine the other members bar is the same. Good numbers spread between blocks 9-17. So 700 maybe. AC may have a different view to me.
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Busy morning so only just been able to check the score. No Woakes I see so thanks to the ECB for that, though I guess they haven't got Anderson either.
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Fascinating end to the season and ludicrous that the authorities have decided to play it on four working days.
No sport hates its own fans as much as cricket.
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I was in the Skyline East before lunch and now in the Scrivens Upper to warm my bones for a while. Not many in Tom Dollery Lounge.
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Cheers for that.
Apparently it is already turning down at the Rose Bowl, so I can see a result there and Hants have made a good start.
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1 thing going against Hampshire is that they've struggled to bowl teams out so them scoring quickly in the top order isn't necessarily any great concern. I'm more interested in us getting a score we can defend because our batting has let us down a lot this year, the bowlers have probably been the best in the division (I think we have more bowling points than anyone else don't we?). The other galling thing is that near the start of the season there were 2-3 games where the weather stopped us getting the win we deserved including a game against hampshire where we dominated them, to end up relegated in those circumstances would be frustrating.
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Bell gone for 37 lbw to Jarvis. 105 for 4.
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105 for 5. Pathetic batting display number 237 for the season.
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105 for 5. Pathetic batting display number 237 for the season.
And the run rate is also so dire.
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Ambrose ran out for 0 in ridiculous fashion.
105/5. Clarke in.
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Embarrassing batting again, Lancs bowling attack looks pretty weak on paper bar Kerrigan and maybe Jarvis.
Hants on the way to a big score in their game v Durham, if they win that we have to beat Lancs.
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Durham are... whatever the cricketing version of "on the beach" is.
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Durham are... whatever the cricketing version of "on the beach" is.
I feared they might be, although Stokes playing is a positive, the fact that their main two bowlers Rushworth and Onions have only bowled 11 of the 47 overs so far says a lot.
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Durham are... whatever the cricketing version of "on the beach" is.
I don't agree, there have been big scores in Southampton all summer. How many they get with the bat was never the major concern.
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Durham are... whatever the cricketing version of "on the beach" is.
I feared they might be, although Stokes playing is a positive, the fact that their main two bowlers Rushworth and Onions have only bowled 11 of the 47 overs so far says a lot.
Anyone know why Stokes has been allowed to play in that one but Woakes can't play for us and Bairstow can't play for Yorks (to name 2 that have been mentioned on here)?
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Looking like bears are gonna have to start thinking about the list of players that they are gonna have to release at the seasons end. Not going to be able to sustain a separate 1day squad in Div 2.
111/5 . Hants 191/2 deficit could be down to 3 points by lunch tomorrow. Hants well on way to possible 5 batting points with us not getting any or maybe 1.
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Durham are... whatever the cricketing version of "on the beach" is.
I feared they might be, although Stokes playing is a positive, the fact that their main two bowlers Rushworth and Onions have only bowled 11 of the 47 overs so far says a lot.
Anyone know why Stokes has been allowed to play in that one but Woakes can't play for us and Bairstow can't play for Yorks (to name 2 that have been mentioned on here)?
Only Mr Strauss could explain that one. There appears to be no consistency. Here's the list of centrally contracted players:
Moeen Ali (Worcestershire) RESTED
James Anderson (Lancashire) RESTED
Ian Bell (Warwickshire) PLAYING
Stuart Broad (Nottinghamshire) RESTED
Jos Buttler (Lancashire) RESTED
Alastair Cook (Essex) RESTED
Steven Finn (Middlesex) PLAYING
Eoin Morgan (Middlesex) RESTED
Joe Root (Yorkshire) RESTED
Ben Stokes (Durham) PLAYING
Mark Wood (Durham) RESTED
Then the likes of Bairstow and Woakes who have incremental contracts are not allowed to play.
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It's all very strange, if you're going to protect one of your all rounders surely the one who's had 2-3 injuries over the summer would be better to rest than the one who's had the summer of his life and has seens a huge drop in his workload for the last month. 6 1-dayers in 5 weeks really shouldn't leave him needing to be rested ahead o the tour to Bangladesh.
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back on topic, 3 maidens in a row, we just don't seem able (or is it willing) to score from Kerrigan, makes it pretty easy for Lancs to lock us down. Someone needs to go after him but it's a big risk.
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It's not just the fact we lose wickets that has fucked us, it's our negative slow batting.
Not only does it mean that, when the collapse arrives, we have a smaller number of runs and are in even more shit, but on the rare occasions that we aren't pissing wickets, we fail to take advantage, either in terms of bonus points or putting ourselves in winning positions.
Point of example: we've made ten runs from our last ten overs.
Considering that many of the same players are perfectly attacking in shorter-form cricket, that must be down to coaching/confidence.
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Last 10 ovs 11/2 RR 1.10
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The way our batting has become so brittle is pretty concerning.
It has been like it for a a good while - in the past our lower order would dig us out of a mess, this year they haven't been able to.
I think Hampshire will get the win, and looking at our match, it is tough to see us winning from here.
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What makes you think Hampshire will get the win? They scored nearly 600 last week and drew, they've scored over 400 7 times and haven't won a single one of those matches all season. I agree they look in a better spot than us right now but batting hasn't been their problem and it has been ours so with us both batting today I'd have expected them to be in a bretter position than us by the end of the day. What happens when they have the ball tomorrow and thursday is much more significant.
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I've been kind of resigned to relegation for a few weeks, that's why I was determined to enjoy Lords at the weekend as it's still been a good season now whatever happens.
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What makes you think Hampshire will get the win? They scored nearly 600 last week and drew, they've scored over 400 7 times and haven't won a single one of those matches all season. I agree they look in a better spot than us right now but batting hasn't been their problem and it has been ours so with us both batting today I'd have expected them to be in a bretter position than us by the end of the day. What happens when they have the ball tomorrow and thursday is much more significant.
I think they will win as they have everything to play for and Durham don't. The pitch is already turning.
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Colville just asked the question "mind you if Bairstow were available who would you drop from this team?" Robert Key sounded incredulous.
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What makes you think Hampshire will get the win? They scored nearly 600 last week and drew, they've scored over 400 7 times and haven't won a single one of those matches all season. I agree they look in a better spot than us right now but batting hasn't been their problem and it has been ours so with us both batting today I'd have expected them to be in a bretter position than us by the end of the day. What happens when they have the ball tomorrow and thursday is much more significant.
I think they will win as they have everything to play for and Durham don't. The pitch is already turning.
I've never agreed with that analogy, sometimes you see teams perform better when they're safely midtable with nothing to play for because players express themselves without any fear, there's certainly very little evidence of a drop in performance in most sports. People think there is because every time a team like that loses it's claimed that they're 'already on the beach' but the stats just don't back it up.
On the pitch turning that may be true but it's not helping Durham take wickets and they have a better bowling attack than Hampshire so that doesn't really mean anything.
I'm not trying to cause an argument here but I just find it funny at times like this that teams who've been shit all season are suddenly going to turn into world beaters and we're fucked if we don't do the same. You see it on the main forum all the time.
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142/6 Clarke lbw Jarvis 16
Hants still flying 237/3 with about 53 overs to get another 163 for Max pts.
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What makes you think Hampshire will get the win? They scored nearly 600 last week and drew, they've scored over 400 7 times and haven't won a single one of those matches all season. I agree they look in a better spot than us right now but batting hasn't been their problem and it has been ours so with us both batting today I'd have expected them to be in a bretter position than us by the end of the day. What happens when they have the ball tomorrow and thursday is much more significant.
If they get maximum batting points and we get none, they could finish above us with a draw if we lose.
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What makes you think Hampshire will get the win? They scored nearly 600 last week and drew, they've scored over 400 7 times and haven't won a single one of those matches all season. I agree they look in a better spot than us right now but batting hasn't been their problem and it has been ours so with us both batting today I'd have expected them to be in a bretter position than us by the end of the day. What happens when they have the ball tomorrow and thursday is much more significant.
I think they will win as they have everything to play for and Durham don't. The pitch is already turning.
I've never agreed with that analogy, sometimes you see teams perform better when they're safely midtable with nothing to play for because players express themselves without any fear, there's certainly very little evidence of a drop in performance in most sports. People think there is because every time a team like that loses it's claimed that they're 'already on the beach' but the stats just don't back it up.
On the pitch turning that may be true but it's not helping Durham take wickets and they have a better bowling attack than Hampshire so that doesn't really mean anything.
I'm not trying to cause an argument here but I just find it funny at times like this that teams who've been shit all season are suddenly going to turn into world beaters and we're fucked if we don't do the same. You see it on the main forum all the time.
It would hardly be them turning into a team of world beaters - we are talking about them winning their third game of the season in their last match. It is perfectly possible.
The thing that is greater concern to me isn't really what Hampshire are doing, it is our pretty woeful 4 day form over the second part of the season, and in particular our poor start to this game.
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Also, they have won a CC game at the Rose Bowl and we have not here at Edgbaston.
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Hants 267/3 at tea.
Warks 165/6.
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Meanwhile, at the boring top of the table, both Yorkshire and Somerset are doing well. It could come down to a battle for bonus points. Middlesex started nine points clear and are probably third favourites at the moment.
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Meanwhile, at the boring top of the table, both Yorkshire and Somerset are doing well. It could come down to a battle for bonus points. Middlesex started nine points clear and are probably third favourites at the moment.
I've got the Yorkshire/Middlesex game down as about even stevens at the moment. Without Bairstow or their overseas player I can't see Yorkshire making more than 200-250.
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The Yorkshire batting line up is the weakest I've seen in a long time.
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The Yorkshire batting line up is the weakest I've seen in a long time.
And they could have played Leaning if I'm not mistaken. Strange from Gillespie.
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What makes you think Hampshire will get the win? They scored nearly 600 last week and drew, they've scored over 400 7 times and haven't won a single one of those matches all season. I agree they look in a better spot than us right now but batting hasn't been their problem and it has been ours so with us both batting today I'd have expected them to be in a bretter position than us by the end of the day. What happens when they have the ball tomorrow and thursday is much more significant.
If they get maximum batting points and we get none, they could finish above us with a draw if we lose.
Only if they also get 3 bowling points and we get none. Given we have 42 out of 45 for the season that seems overly pessimistic. I agree that them getting 5 batting points and us getting none would be a shitty day but that alone won't decide our fate. The simple fact is that we need 1 bonus point and then to match their result. The latter is the bigger concern because I really can't see us not getting a bowling point and still somehow being able to get a draw (which i suspect Hampshire will get). On that basis the key part of the Hampshire match is the Durham first innings. If Hampshire suddenly work out how to take 20 wickets and get a win (against someone other than Notts) then we're in trouble.
In our game the biggest concern is whether we can post a big enough score to either give us a chance to bowl them out and go for the win or to at least make it difficult for them to fly past us and bowl for the match.
Given both games look like they might lose some time to rain tomorrow and with heavy clouds around might struggle for the light all 4 days I still think 2 draws is the most likely outcome because nothing has happened so far to contradict that.
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The Yorkshire batting line up is the weakest I've seen in a long time.
And they could have played Leaning if I'm not mistaken. Strange from Gillespie.
He's had a really poor season, I'd have played Plunkett, extra pace and handy with the bat. Bairstow is a massive loss for this game.
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What makes you think Hampshire will get the win? They scored nearly 600 last week and drew, they've scored over 400 7 times and haven't won a single one of those matches all season. I agree they look in a better spot than us right now but batting hasn't been their problem and it has been ours so with us both batting today I'd have expected them to be in a bretter position than us by the end of the day. What happens when they have the ball tomorrow and thursday is much more significant.
If they get maximum batting points and we get none, they could finish above us with a draw if we lose.
Only if they also get 3 bowling points and we get none. Given we have 42 out of 45 for the season that seems overly pessimistic. I agree that them getting 5 batting points and us getting none would be a shitty day but that alone won't decide our fate. The simple fact is that we need 1 bonus point and then to match their result. The latter is the bigger concern because I really can't see us not getting a bowling point and still somehow being able to get a draw (which i suspect Hampshire will get). On that basis the key part of the Hampshire match is the Durham first innings. If Hampshire suddenly work out how to take 20 wickets and get a win (against someone other than Notts) then we're in trouble.
In our game the biggest concern is whether we can post a big enough score to either give us a chance to bowl them out and go for the win or to at least make it difficult for them to fly past us and bowl for the match.
Given both games look like they might lose some time to rain tomorrow and with heavy clouds around might struggle for the light all 4 days I still think 2 draws is the most likely outcome because nothing has happened so far to contradict that.
I think Hampshire scoring quickly also enables them to lose some time for the weather. Another way to look at it is that they (so far) couldn't really have done anymore - we certainly could.
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Hain gone for a battling 62. Patel joins Barker. 187/7.
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Barker b Clark 22
190/8 oooer
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Barker b Clark 22
190/8 oooer
This is like being at a funeral.
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Another one.
Is the pitch doing a bit?
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10 more for a batting point; can we do it?
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Great batting Jeets get us that vital batting point please!
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Bonus point!
Unfortunately, Hants about to get their third.
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Twelve off Proctor's over from Jeets secures a batting point.
Jeez I'm celebrating underachievement like a nose.
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What makes you think Hampshire will get the win? They scored nearly 600 last week and drew, they've scored over 400 7 times and haven't won a single one of those matches all season. I agree they look in a better spot than us right now but batting hasn't been their problem and it has been ours so with us both batting today I'd have expected them to be in a bretter position than us by the end of the day. What happens when they have the ball tomorrow and thursday is much more significant.
If they get maximum batting points and we get none, they could finish above us with a draw if we lose.
Only if they also get 3 bowling points and we get none. Given we have 42 out of 45 for the season that seems overly pessimistic. I agree that them getting 5 batting points and us getting none would be a shitty day but that alone won't decide our fate. The simple fact is that we need 1 bonus point and then to match their result. The latter is the bigger concern because I really can't see us not getting a bowling point and still somehow being able to get a draw (which i suspect Hampshire will get). On that basis the key part of the Hampshire match is the Durham first innings. If Hampshire suddenly work out how to take 20 wickets and get a win (against someone other than Notts) then we're in trouble.
In our game the biggest concern is whether we can post a big enough score to either give us a chance to bowl them out and go for the win or to at least make it difficult for them to fly past us and bowl for the match.
Given both games look like they might lose some time to rain tomorrow and with heavy clouds around might struggle for the light all 4 days I still think 2 draws is the most likely outcome because nothing has happened so far to contradict that.
I think Hampshire scoring quickly also enables them to lose some time for the weather. Another way to look at it is that they (so far) couldn't really have done anymore - we certainly could.
True but their batting is their strong side, their bowling is weak, we're the opposite so right now we're comparing apples and pears, that's my point. If after 2 innings they have a massive lead and we don't then it's significant but right now they're playing to the strength and we're really not.
8th wicket down means we're not going to last much longer but broke 200 so the bonus point we needed to be able to just match the hampshire result is in the bag.
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What makes you think Hampshire will get the win? They scored nearly 600 last week and drew, they've scored over 400 7 times and haven't won a single one of those matches all season. I agree they look in a better spot than us right now but batting hasn't been their problem and it has been ours so with us both batting today I'd have expected them to be in a bretter position than us by the end of the day. What happens when they have the ball tomorrow and thursday is much more significant.
If they get maximum batting points and we get none, they could finish above us with a draw if we lose.
Only if they also get 3 bowling points and we get none.
Incorrect, I think you failed to take into account the three points they get for drawing.
Anyway, we have a bonus point now. Assuming that they get maximum batting points we would only need to match their number of bowling points to guarantee that they would need to win (or tie) to finish above us, a draw wouldn't be enough, even if we lost.
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That could be the most important point of the season.
207/8 76 overs
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Floodlights on.
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What makes you think Hampshire will get the win? They scored nearly 600 last week and drew, they've scored over 400 7 times and haven't won a single one of those matches all season. I agree they look in a better spot than us right now but batting hasn't been their problem and it has been ours so with us both batting today I'd have expected them to be in a bretter position than us by the end of the day. What happens when they have the ball tomorrow and thursday is much more significant.
If they get maximum batting points and we get none, they could finish above us with a draw if we lose.
Only if they also get 3 bowling points and we get none.
Incorrect, I think you failed to take into account the three points they get for drawing.
Anyway, we have a bonus point now. Assuming that they get maximum batting points we would only need to match their number of bowling points to guarantee that they would need to win (or tie) to finish above us, a draw wouldn't be enough, even if we lost.
No, I think we both missed things, as I said all along, matching their result is the most important thing, that was always the case, if they draw (or tie) we always looked likely to need a draw. that's why getting a bonus point was important because it means they now have to get a better result than us and as you say if we match them on the bowling points (as you'd hope, we can even lose this and still stay up if they can only make a draw. As bleak as it looks at 208/8 we're in the driving seat still, unless our bowling fails us completely and Barker and Patel in particular haven't done that for a while.
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As ever, it's difficult to gauge how good these scores are until both teams have batted.
If ever we could get Lancashire all out for 100 I'd fancy us... to still fuck it up and lose by six wickets! 😉
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Exactly, the only thing you can go on is that Southampton has seen a lot of high scoring draws this summer and Edgbaston has seen much lower scoring games in general.
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That hopefully bodes well for us getting maximum bowling points.
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Wright gone attempting to pull. Ball keeping low. 214/9.
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That hopefully bodes well for us getting maximum bowling points.
We generally do, only dropped 3 bowling points all summer.
I think the best thing to say today is that getting a bonus point from 105/5 is a good recovery, not where we want to be but when Ambrose went it looked like we might be in much more trouble than this. Wright gone so not much longer to go but it's better than we feared earlier when the bonus point looked far from safe.
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Agreed. And Cricinfo seems to have died. Got the BBC wicket update ages ago.
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Yes, Cricinfo has given up, thank God PGW is on the case.
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That's that. Patel caught in the deep on the off side. 219 all out.
Bright as it has been all day. Fuck knows why floodlights still on
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They've gone off for bad light at Lord's where they have floodlights but naturally this being cricket, aren't allowed to use them.
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They've gone off for bad light at Lord's where they have floodlights but naturally this being cricket, aren't allowed to use them.
According to the Cricinfo championship cricket blog:
Floodlights can't be used at Champ cricket at Lord's because they have to be available for all games. They can't be because of Council limits on the amount of times they can be used in a season to appease St John's Wood residents: money talks.
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Rikki Clarke dropped a chance at second slip. A sure sign that we are fucked. Patel on fr the City end.
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Yet another toss lost followed by another poor showing with the bat. Needed to get 300 plus. Hope we skittle them now.
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Yet another toss lost followed by another poor showing with the bat. Needed to get 300 plus. Hope we skittle them now.
We didn't lose the toss it was uncontested so Lancashire exercised their right to choose.
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Yet another toss lost followed by another poor showing with the bat. Needed to get 300 plus. Hope we skittle them now.
The toss was uncontested O Great Sniveller.
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And in a nothing game in Div 2 Joe Clarke has notched another ton.
Clarke, Cox & Leach have been excellent this season
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Cricinfo (http://www.espncricinfo.com/county-cricket-2016/content/story/1057944.html)
Relegation threat looms larger over Warwickshire
Lancashire 14 for 0 trail Warwickshire 219 (Hain 52, Bailey 4-52) by 205 runs
Lancashire's bowlers piled the pressure on Warwickshire on the opening day of their County Championship relegation battle at Edgbaston.
With Hampshire making strong progress at The Ageas Bowl, it looks increasingly likely that whichever side loses this match will go down. And Warwickshire are looking vulnerable after they were bowled out for 219, taking just a single batting point.
They are far from out of the game - the ball has swung and there is some assistance for the spinners. But Lancashire completed their solid day's work by reaching 14 without loss at the close and three days after the euphoria of their Royal London Cup triumph at Lord's, Warwickshire's supporters were left anxious by another patchy day's work from their team.
Lancashire owe their ascendancy to bowling of sustained accuracy, led by Tom Bailey and Jordan Clark. Only Sam Hain reached 50 and, as the bowlers maintained the pressure, no partnership got that far.
Lancashire chose to bowl and started perfectly when Ian Westwood was lbw to Bailey's fourth ball.
Alex Mellor and Jonathan Trott added 44 and, after Mellor edged Bailey to first slip, Trott and Ian Bell put on 37. But Clark's dismissal of Trott, edging an outswinger just before lunch, set the tone of the day - Lancashire regularly striking just as a partnership seemed to take root. Having made 83 for 3 in the first session, Warwickshire made 82 for 3 in the second. Bell was lbw to Kyle Jarvis, then four balls later came a needless run out. Hain called for a tight single which Tim Ambrose failed to make as Jarvis landed a direct-hit from mid-off.
Hain and Rikki Clarke eked 37 from 15 overs before Clarke was lbw, pulling, to Clark. Hain and Keith Barker defied to add 40, then both fell in the space of ten balls.
Hain's 152-minute resistance ended when Luke Procter won the fourth lbw decision of the innings. Barker was bowled by the impressive Clark.
Jeetan Patel and Chris Wright saw their side to a batting point but Wright feathered an attempted pull at Bailey who rounded off the innings when Patel lofted a catch to deep cover.
Lancashire's young openers Rob Jones and Haseeb Hameed, reached the close unparted, though the latter was dropped on 2 by Clarke at second slip off Barker.
Plenty in the pitch - Brown
Warwickshire director of cricket Dougie Brown: "There is still plenty in the pitch and it is probably going to deteriorate quite quickly. Credit to Lancashire, they bowled very well, very disciplined, but it was a difficult pitch to score on and unless something changes markedly, which we don't expect, it will remain difficult.
At the moment it all looks pretty cosy for Lancashire but if they are in a run-chase for 240/250 then all of a sudden comes the realisation that they are in a real run-chase to remain in Division One. We have just got to focus on getting to that point in the game."
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Yet another toss lost followed by another poor showing with the bat. Needed to get 300 plus. Hope we skittle them now.
The toss was uncontested O Great Sniveller.
Pathetic.
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It seems that Hampshire prepared a sandy wicket which will disintegrate and play into the hands of their three spinners. Whatever we have prepared remains unknown to most observers including Dougie.
I did not see much seam or turn, but quite a lot of balls kept very low.
If the ball swings tomorrow morning then Barker is the man, but I am far from sanguine.
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I think if they have to chase 240-250 then we will be ok.....we have quite a way to get ourselves into that position though.
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Hants 401/7. 5th bonus point.
Lancs 35/0. Barker replaced by Clarke atthe pavilion end.
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Somerset have a 33 run partnership for their last wicket, taking them to an unexpected 4th batting point. Is there still a chance that they can win the league?
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Hameed lbw Clarke 17. 35/1.
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Jones gone now.
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Jones lbw Wright. 35/2.
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Two wickets in five balls. COYB
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Feel a lot better after that. Almost onto a first bowling point, not that they matter too much now. The result is what's important.
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3 down.
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Chris Wright still on from the City end. Bowling very well.
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4 down. They bat like us.
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We are back in the game. Still got OHD to come on, hopefully he can bowl like he did at Lords although that was an exception for him! Plus if Jeetan can get some turn we could have them all out without giving away a first-innings deficit.
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Barker got that one. Caught by Ambrose
39/4.
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COYB! - skittle 'em for less than 120!
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Durham 39-2
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As I said yesterday, this is where we're strong, 79/5 at lunch with their batting line-up looks like we could end up with a decent lead at halfway.
Durham losing a couple cheaply wasn't part of the script though.
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As I said yesterday, this is where we're strong, 79/5 at lunch with their batting line-up looks like we could end up with a decent lead at halfway.
Durham losing a couple cheaply wasn't part of the script though.
Well that is always the danger. Whether Durham are on the beach, or simply being outplayed, relying on other teams is not ideal.
Our batting seems to have been flaky all season.
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Durham 52/3 with lancs 90/5
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Well, Durham are a bunch of ******.
We need to win to stay up. COYB.
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Strange scorecard at Lords.
Yorks 32-3.
Lyth 32 *
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Yorks 32/3 Bresnan in already. Down here moved onto 114/5
Durham 65/3
Notts 62/2
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If we can break this pair before they do too much more there doesn't look likely to be a huge number of runs in the tail. The lesson appears to be that it plays a bit easier once the ball softens a little so when we get back in our first job is to see off a big chunk of overs without losing wickets., not easy for our top order unfortunately.
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Needed that.
Croft gone.
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134/6
Croft b Barker 45
Durham 89/3
York's 53/4
Notts 86/2
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Beginning to look like Middlesex will be the Champions anyway.
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145/7 Lilley b Patel 4
Durham 105/3
York's 57/4
Notes 91/3
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149/8 Bailey CT Bell b Patel 0
Durham 129/3
York's 68/4
Notts 99/4
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Another one goes. 9 down.
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149/9 Clark b Barker 34
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Wickets are falling faster than Chiltern Trains wi-fi and BBC website updates!
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Durham have lost a 4th but up to 136/4 meaning it was a big partnership. If Collingwood and Stokes can get something together they should, if nothing else, avoid the follow on which will be a big positive for us.
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152 all out!
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Well bowled Mr Barker.
If we can get 200 I reckon we should be ok.
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152 all out Jarvis b Barker 3
Durham 137/4
Yorks 82/4
Notes 108/5
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And there's a the last wicket for the bears, a lead of 67 at halfway and all 3 bowling points in the bag meaning we've dropped 3 all season, that's pretty impressive and should really have led to us fighting things out at the other end.
Our game has go0ne exactly as I expected, just frustrating that Durham seem to be determined to fuck things up in that game. 137/5 now, Collingwood for a duck.
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Bollywood out.
Durham are 5 down.
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Durham 137/5
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Great bowling from the Bears, and who else but the spearhead of the attack, Keith Barker.
I'd be happy if we repeated our first innings low score now! That would leave Lancs needing 287.
Hants threatening to do what they did last season by climbing out the bottom 2 by winning their last game, lets hope it's Lancs who replace them and not us.
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It looks like Hampshire are going to win with maximum batting points (not sure about how many overs they batted for though) and decent bowling points so we need to win to send Lancashire down.
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Tea scores Durham 152/5
Notes 120/6
York's 106/4
Long session of 40 overs for bears to get through and hopefully build a substantial lead. 4/0 Westwood improved on first innings with 4
Lead 71
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It obviously going square at Ciderabad.
120-8...Bess and Leach sharing 6.
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Yorkshire aren't going to win this but (in a Keegan style) I'd love it, just love it if they prevent Middlesex from taking the title.
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Yorkshire aren't going to win this but (in a Keegan style) I'd love it, just love it if they prevent Middlesex from taking the title.
Yup....it would be soooooooooooooooo Yorkshire to tuck up the southerners.
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12/0 6 each westie and Mellor, gone off for bad light, 33 overs left.
Durham 162/5
Yorks 127/4
Somerset doing everything expected from them bowling Notts out for 138, 227 behind.
Last thing we needed was losing time from the game, saving grace being that at least we're in third innings...lead 79
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Somerset cruising towards an innings victory or close to it I'd say, means Middlesex must win v Yorks, or the title goes to Somerset for the first ever time!
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12/0 6 each westie and Mellor, gone off for bad light, 33 overs left.
Durham 162/5
Yorks 127/4
Somerset doing everything expected from them bowling Notts out for 138, 227 behind.
Last thing we needed was losing time from the game, saving grace being that at least we're in third innings...lead 79
Christ, how dark is it? Can't they whack the lights on?
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12/0 6 each westie and Mellor, gone off for bad light, 33 overs left.
Durham 162/5
Yorks 127/4
Somerset doing everything expected from them bowling Notts out for 138, 227 behind.
Last thing we needed was losing time from the game, saving grace being that at least we're in third innings...lead 79
Christ, how dark is it? Can't they whack the lights on?
Cricinfo reporting that they're now off for rain.
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Somerset have not enforced the follow on, batting again.
Durham 175/5
Tea at lords yorks 127/4
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Yorkshire aren't going to win this but (in a Keegan style) I'd love it, just love it if they prevent Middlesex from taking the title.
Yup....it would be soooooooooooooooo Yorkshire to tuck up the southerners.
I've never forgiven Middlesex for being all out for 51 when we needed them to avoid defeat against Essex to win the league. Hope Zomerzet win it, Yorkshire have won enough in the last few years!
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Stokes is out.
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Hovercover only on to start with but now the sheets being put out. Not too heavy but they certainly won't come back out whilst like this. May pack up and go home and listen if they should get back out.
Durham 183/5 228 behind get it down to 149 please.
Coming down quite heavy now
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Yorkshire aren't going to win this but (in a Keegan style) I'd love it, just love it if they prevent Middlesex from taking the title.
Yup....it would be soooooooooooooooo Yorkshire to tuck up the southerners.
The thought of pissing Andrew Strauss off pleases me.
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Hovercover only on to start with but now the sheets being put out. Not too heavy but they certainly won't come back out whilst like this. May pack up and go home and listen if they should get back out.
Durham 183/5 228 behind get it down to 149 please.
Coming down quite heavy now
Looking like a big ask for Durham at the moment, 186/7.
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Yorkshire aren't going to win this but (in a Keegan style) I'd love it, just love it if they prevent Middlesex from taking the title.
Yup....it would be soooooooooooooooo Yorkshire to tuck up the southerners.
The thought of pissing Andrew Strauss off pleases me.
They are going to do it for Bairstow.
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Hovercover only on to start with but now the sheets being put out. Not too heavy but they certainly won't come back out whilst like this. May pack up and go home and listen if they should get back out.
Durham 183/5 228 behind get it down to 149 please.
Coming down quite heavy now
Looking like a big ask for Durham at the moment, 186/7.
It wasn't ever going to go any other way.
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If Somerset win (near certainty) they'd finish above Yorkshire even if they won, wouldn't they? Unless Yorkshire somehow got about 3+ batting points.
So we're supporting anything but a Middlesex win in that one.
Come on Zummerzet!
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Yorkshire would have to get a minimum 350 and then win, which isn't going to happen.
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Durham 217/7 now, 45 more please to make em bat again.
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Durham 242/7 at stumps needing another 20 to avoid the follow on.
Looking at the weather reports it doesn't seem likely to lose any overs to rain or light so we need Durham to keep pushing that one on whilst we push for a 250-300 lead.
They've done a little better than expected but Hampshire struggling to take wickets always looked like a possibility and this stand has highlighted that weakness again.
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Stumps at Hants with Durham 242/7
Yorks 206/6 not quite stumps
Somerset 105/2 lead 332
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Well if the weather is ok for the next 2 days it is highly likely we will see a result at Edgbaston - let's hope that we can get 250 and stick em late tomorrow.
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It's a fine balance. I think we need quick runs, as long as we don't collapse - just to give plenty of time to bowl them out. Remember they only need a draw, so they might just go totally defensive and dig in. Durham might force a draw by avoiding the follow on, but the Bears need to just go for the win.
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A bit of a miserable morning, hopefully it'll be okay (or be horrible in Hampshire to make up for it).
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A bit of a miserable morning, hopefully it'll be okay (or be horrible in Hampshire to make up for it).
Sunshine now!....hopefully dry up any moisture quickly. First hour will be pivotal. We need at least 200 runs today.
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Well they started on time so it should be a full day's play.
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Delayed start at Southampton 😊
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Mellor gone lbw shouldering arms to another that kept low. 13/1.
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Start delayed at Hampshire due to rain. Good.
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Mellor gone lbw shouldering arms to another that kept low. 13/1.
Why pick an inexperienced player (2nd choice wicketkeeper) as an opener in such an important match? Ateeq Javid, Porterfield or Evans would've been a better bet. Or Chopra should've been kept on!
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Fair play to Yorkshire, couldn't see them having a lead when they were 97/4, excellent battling.
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Fair play to Yorkshire, couldn't see them having a lead when they were 97/4, excellent battling.
The middle and lower order have rescued them several times this season but this has been a great effort.
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Fair play to Yorkshire, couldn't see them having a lead when they were 97/4, excellent battling.
The middle and lower order have rescued them several times this season but this has been a great effort.
I like Bresnan - wasn't quite good enough at the top level (there is no disgrace in that) but a marvellous county player and his 100 has been a really gutsy effort. He seems one of the good guys.
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Terrific knocks by Rafiq and Fatty.
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I make it that if Yorkshire get 350 before the 110 over mark then they're a point ahead of Somerset, meaning that Somerset would have to hope for a draw to have a chance of winning the Championship.
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Westwood gone for 34 in the same way as Mellor. He had quite a lot of luck but showed his battling qualities. 74/2. They are starting at 1240 at Hants. The equinox is at 1523.
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Fair play to Yorkshire, couldn't see them having a lead when they were 97/4, excellent battling.
The middle and lower order have rescued them several times this season but this has been a great effort.
I like Bresnan - wasn't quite good enough at the top level (there is no disgrace in that) but a marvellous county player and his 100 has been a really gutsy effort. He seems one of the good guys.
I don't think that's all that fair, he was 3rd seamer in a 4man attack too often and he's really not the right type of bowler for that. A strike bowler and him for the steady 4th seamer would've been fine. Time is gone now and Woakes is doing that role better than he could've but I don't think he let England down at all, just wasn't ever going t take the number of wickets the selection demanded of him.
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Fair play to Yorkshire, couldn't see them having a lead when they were 97/4, excellent battling.
The middle and lower order have rescued them several times this season but this has been a great effort.
I like Bresnan - wasn't quite good enough at the top level (there is no disgrace in that) but a marvellous county player and his 100 has been a really gutsy effort. He seems one of the good guys.
I don't think that's all that fair, he was 3rd seamer in a 4man attack too often and he's really not the right type of bowler for that. A strike bowler and him for the steady 4th seamer would've been fine. Time is gone now and Woakes is doing that role better than he could've but I don't think he let England down at all, just wasn't ever going t take the number of wickets the selection demanded of him.
Did I say he let England down?
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Trott never quite made it to lunch b Lilley 42
110/3 lead 177
As someone already quoted Durham to resume at 12:40
Yorkshire 333/8 93.5
Somerset 313/5 lead 540
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Fair play to Yorkshire, couldn't see them having a lead when they were 97/4, excellent battling.
The middle and lower order have rescued them several times this season but this has been a great effort.
I like Bresnan - wasn't quite good enough at the top level (there is no disgrace in that) but a marvellous county player and his 100 has been a really gutsy effort. He seems one of the good guys.
I don't think that's all that fair, he was 3rd seamer in a 4man attack too often and he's really not the right type of bowler for that. A strike bowler and him for the steady 4th seamer would've been fine. Time is gone now and Woakes is doing that role better than he could've but I don't think he let England down at all, just wasn't ever going t take the number of wickets the selection demanded of him.
Did I say he let England down?
No, you said he wasn't quite good enough at the highest level, which means pretty much the same thing, just being nicer about it.
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Fair play to Yorkshire, couldn't see them having a lead when they were 97/4, excellent battling.
The middle and lower order have rescued them several times this season but this has been a great effort.
I like Bresnan - wasn't quite good enough at the top level (there is no disgrace in that) but a marvellous county player and his 100 has been a really gutsy effort. He seems one of the good guys.
I don't think that's all that fair, he was 3rd seamer in a 4man attack too often and he's really not the right type of bowler for that. A strike bowler and him for the steady 4th seamer would've been fine. Time is gone now and Woakes is doing that role better than he could've but I don't think he let England down at all, just wasn't ever going t take the number of wickets the selection demanded of him.
Did I say he let England down?
No, you said he wasn't quite good enough at the highest level, which means pretty much the same thing, just being nicer about it.
No it doesn't - letting England down would mean he didn't perform to his ability, or doing daft stuff.
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Time for Bell to deliver a decent score! Another 130 runs and put them in?
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Time for Bell to deliver a decent score! Another 130 runs and put them in?
Think we're safe with a draw, so no point in declaring?
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No it doesn't - letting England down would mean he didn't perform to his ability, or doing daft stuff.
Not really, letting England down can be just not being good enough and therefore being the difference between winning and losing games and that's what i disagree with, I don't think there was ever a time where he wasn't good enough but when he was in the team there were plenty of times where the team as a whole wasn't right. He's not good enough to get into the England team now but he was the 3rd best seamer we had for a while and his record is more than good enough for that role with him average about 3 wickets a match.
That said I'm not trying to have a go I just think he was a player that some were never happy to see in the England team and your post read a little like the same which I've always thought was unfair, he got into the team ahead of Finn for a year or 2 because he was a better bowler than Finn at time and he earned his place and did nothing wrong as an england all-rounder. I really rated him and it used to annoy me when his place was constantly questioned.
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I guess if Durham avoid the follow on we are arguably now in the better position to win our game with 5 sessions left.
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No it doesn't - letting England down would mean he didn't perform to his ability, or doing daft stuff.
Not really, letting England down can be just not being good enough and therefore being the difference between winning and losing games and that's what i disagree with, I don't think there was ever a time where he wasn't good enough but when he was in the team there were plenty of times where the team as a whole wasn't right. He's not good enough to get into the England team now but he was the 3rd best seamer we had for a while and his record is more than good enough for that role with him average about 3 wickets a match.
That said I'm not trying to have a go I just think he was a player that some were never happy to see in the England team and your post read a little like the same which I've always thought was unfair, he got into the team ahead of Finn for a year or 2 because he was a better bowler than Finn at time and he earned his place and did nothing wrong as an england all-rounder. I really rated him and it used to annoy me when his place was constantly questioned.
The post wasn't intended as such, and I wouldn't use the term letting England down in the way you suggested.
I would argue, for example that Pietersen let England down on occasions. Anyway a discussion for another thread or time.
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Durham avoid the follow on, and Yorkshire need another 15 runs with one wicket left to be in with a shout for the championship.
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Time for Bell to deliver a decent score! Another 130 runs and put them in?
Think we're safe with a draw, so no point in declaring?
We are only safe with a draw if Hampshire lose or draw.
Need to aim for a win as Hants will still probably win, even though Durham avoiding the follow on has helped on that front a bit.
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I guess if Durham avoid the follow on we are arguably now in the better position to win our game with 5 sessions left.
I think Lancashire are the ones most in trouble right now.
Hampshire look likely to have a lead of 100+ at halfway and we're currently pushing towards a lead of 200 with an attack that's just skittled them for 150. If we can add another 100-150 and then put them in with 10-15 overs left in the day they'll be in real trouble. Hampshire should be considered our insurance right now. If Durham can get another 40-50 and get close to tea then the biggest issue Hampshire will have is getting the runs to be safe without taking up too many overs because you suspect they'll need a full day to get Durham out again and I can't imagine they'll be happy with a lead much under 300 on that pitch.
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Interesting one for Bresnan here, does he just go for it and try to get them to 350 or does he take it easy and trust Sidebottom to face a few and accumulate? They've got plenty of overs so that won't be a concern but to get this close and miss out because he makes the wrong choice would be galling.
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I guess if Durham avoid the follow on we are arguably now in the better position to win our game with 5 sessions left.
I think Lancashire are the ones most in trouble right now.
Hampshire look likely to have a lead of 100+ at halfway and we're currently pushing towards a lead of 200 with an attack that's just skittled them for 150. If we can add another 100-150 and then put them in with 10-15 overs left in the day they'll be in real trouble. Hampshire should be considered our insurance right now. If Durham can get another 40-50 and get close to tea then the biggest issue Hampshire will have is getting the runs to be safe without taking up too many overs because you suspect they'll need a full day to get Durham out again and I can't imagine they'll be happy with a lead much under 300 on that pitch.
Yep time is potentially an issue for Hants - although as they have to win I guess they will throw caution to the wind.
I hope we focus on getting the win, and not worrying about what is happening down south.
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Interesting one for Bresnan here, does he just go for it and try to get them to 350 or does he take it easy and trust Sidebottom to face a few and accumulate? They've got plenty of overs so that won't be a concern but to get this close and miss out because he makes the wrong choice would be galling.
Well he obviously trusts him a she has taken a single off the first ball of the over!
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I guess if Durham avoid the follow on we are arguably now in the better position to win our game with 5 sessions left.
I think Lancashire are the ones most in trouble right now.
Hampshire look likely to have a lead of 100+ at halfway and we're currently pushing towards a lead of 200 with an attack that's just skittled them for 150. If we can add another 100-150 and then put them in with 10-15 overs left in the day they'll be in real trouble. Hampshire should be considered our insurance right now. If Durham can get another 40-50 and get close to tea then the biggest issue Hampshire will have is getting the runs to be safe without taking up too many overs because you suspect they'll need a full day to get Durham out again and I can't imagine they'll be happy with a lead much under 300 on that pitch.
Do we want a winner in the Wigan-QPR game or does a draw suit us better?
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Looks like Hain has the same thinking as me, operating in boundaries now. Lead up to 210.
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Interesting one for Bresnan here, does he just go for it and try to get them to 350 or does he take it easy and trust Sidebottom to face a few and accumulate? They've got plenty of overs so that won't be a concern but to get this close and miss out because he makes the wrong choice would be galling.
Well he obviously trusts him a she has taken a single off the first ball of the over!
I know, that surprised me, Sidebottom isn't the worst batsman ever but I'm not sure I'd want to let him face 5 when you're a handful of runs away from a shot at the title. I think someone might need to check on Chris, the tension is getting a bit much for me and I don't particularly care about this one. Making for brilliant watching though.
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I guess if Durham avoid the follow on we are arguably now in the better position to win our game with 5 sessions left.
I think Lancashire are the ones most in trouble right now.
Hampshire look likely to have a lead of 100+ at halfway and we're currently pushing towards a lead of 200 with an attack that's just skittled them for 150. If we can add another 100-150 and then put them in with 10-15 overs left in the day they'll be in real trouble. Hampshire should be considered our insurance right now. If Durham can get another 40-50 and get close to tea then the biggest issue Hampshire will have is getting the runs to be safe without taking up too many overs because you suspect they'll need a full day to get Durham out again and I can't imagine they'll be happy with a lead much under 300 on that pitch.
Do we want a winner in the Wigan-QPR game or does a draw suit us better?
In football you always say a draw, takes points out of the league. :P
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One lusty blow would do it now. Bresnan on strike.
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3 needed. Single taken, Sideshow on strike.
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Hain and Bell both out.
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This is mesmerising, Middlesex all on the rope from Bresnan so singles all over the place, huge amounts of pressure on him. 2 more needed. Loads of clouds coming as well, would be shocking if the rain comes before the 350.
Durham roll on, 309/8 now lead is down to 102.
Bears 153/5 lead is 221 but Bell and Hain both gone trying to push things along.
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If anyone has access to sky and isn't watching this you're missing out on a truly brilliant spell of cricket. I do worry that it's taking so long that it's going to be immaterial and this will be a draw, especially with the risk of rain.
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1 more and declare I reckon.
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Has to be, they need all the overs they can get.
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Great decision from the umpire, tiny inside edge there'
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Light meters out, this after Sidebottom was lucky to survive a v good lbw shout.
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Jeez bad light stops play.
edit. Rain!!
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ha ha ha, there are yorkshire supporters who are going to suffocate from holding their breath in this break!!
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Rain break when they need 1 more run for a crucial 3rd batting point for Yorkshire; bet the Yorkshire fans are cursing.
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Don't think it is crucial, but Hampshire need another wicket in the current over to get the 3rd bowling point.
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Light meters out, this after Sidebottom was lucky to survive a v good lbw shout.
'Lucky' in the sense he hit it!
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Light meters out, this after Sidebottom was lucky to survive a v good lbw shout.
'Lucky' in the sense he hit it!
you're alive, thank god, how are the nerves?
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181/5 lead 248 Durham doing us proud
348/8 63 behind
Our lead now 253
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Hampshire have made a right mess of this innings, can't see anything but a draw there now, lead is down to 61.
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They could easily rattle a quick 150 tonight and give themselves a chance of victory. Things certainly look a lot better than they did on Tuesday night anyway!
COYB!
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Breakthrough for Hampshire, 351/9 lead of 60
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Light meters out, this after Sidebottom was lucky to survive a v good lbw shout.
'Lucky' in the sense he hit it!
Sorry I had gone a bit Andrew Strauss.
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Light meters out, this after Sidebottom was lucky to survive a v good lbw shout.
'Lucky' in the sense he hit it!
Sorry I had gone a bit Andrew Strauss.
Must admit I thought it was out on first viewing.
The Villa supporter/pessimist in me thinks Bresnan will be out first ball after the break.
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Light meters out, this after Sidebottom was lucky to survive a v good lbw shout.
'Lucky' in the sense he hit it!
Sorry I had gone a bit Andrew Strauss.
Must admit I thought it was out on first viewing.
The Villa supporter/pessimist in me thinks Bresnan will be out first ball after the break.
It looked plumb to me - I assumed it was turned down as Bailey was unsure if it had pitched outside leg. It was an excellent decision.
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Durham out for 361 so 50 behind, means Hampshire need to score 200-250 and then put them back in and get 10 wickets. Given their bowling attack I think that's a huge ask.
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196/6 Clarke lbw Kerrigan 20
Durham 361 all out Hants lead 50
Our lead 263
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Durham out for 361 so 50 behind, means Hampshire need to score 200-250 and then put them back in and get 10 wickets. Given their bowling attack I think that's a huge ask.
Richardson stranded on 99. I reckon Mr Rushworth owes him a drink.
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202/6 lead 269
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Maiden in the Yorkshire game; the teases.
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Fuck me, I've never been so nervous.
In the context of the game and the season Bresnan's innings is one of the best I've seen.
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Light meters out, this after Sidebottom was lucky to survive a v good lbw shout.
'Lucky' in the sense he hit it!
you're alive, thank god, how are the nerves?
This is where the blood pressure medication really needs to kick in!
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Durham out for 361 so 50 behind, means Hampshire need to score 200-250 and then put them back in and get 10 wickets. Given their bowling attack I think that's a huge ask.
Richardson stranded on 99. I reckon Mr Rushworth owes him a drink.
Oh dear.
That left the last man, Chris Rushworth, with one ball of the over to survive. But rather than play it out he tried to hit the spinner out of the ground, missed, and was promptly given out lbw by the umpire Nick Cook.
A sheepish looking Rushworth darted off to the pavilion. Richardson, who had played superbly, waved his arm in anger and frustration. Then, instead of leaving the crease and following all the other players back to the dressing room, he remained there, in stupefied disbelief. The Hampshire players had to go back to the pitch to congratulate him. Very funny. Rushworth’s stroke was one of the daftest I have ever seen. Maybe Richardson will report him to his father, Dave Richardson, the chief executive of the International Cricket Council, in the hope that some special punishment might be found. Rushworth looked a little distracted when he opened the bowling and was pulled, mostly, for 11 in his first over.
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Yorkshire 390 all out. Great effort.
Three way title race looks like going to the very last session.
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Think Middlesex are now the outsiders for the title as it is highly unlikely that a draw will be enough for them. Somerset will surely beat Nottinghamshire.
Wonder if Middlesex will go for it, try and set a target of about 120 and see if they can bowl Yorkshire out, after all Yorkshire may have to score runs quickly too.
Quite pleased that Warwickshire have a 300 lead. Maybe we can have a bit of a slog now and put Lancashire into bat with about 10 overs left?
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We have a lead of 300 with 4 wickets remaining at tea. We should declare early in the last session other things being equal.
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Hampshire have lost 2 wickets so it could still be interesting there too.
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Barker lbw Lilley 23
234/7 lead 301
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All 7 lbw or bowled.
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3 down for Hants and Yorkshire have already taken a wicket.
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Early wicket for Yorkshire, poor from Robson really.
Yorkies have to be clear favourites for the title now and by a hair I'd have Lancs favourite for the drop, Hampshire trying to score quick and give themselves the best chance of bowling Durham out again but they're giving wickets away doing it, 80/3 lead of 130.
We're in a very strong position now, suspect we'll declare soon and leave ourselves with 120 overs and 330ish to defend, gotta be happy with that really.
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Hants lost another 85/4 they might start to get nervous soon if they lose many more cheap ones.
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Middlesex 2/2.
Strauss trying to get Sidebottom, Brooks and Bresnan rested for remainder of the season.
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Compton - whenever I see him bat he has a shocker.
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That's a disgrace of a shot from an international batsman, it's an ok delivery but no more. I'll call it early, Middlesex have absolutely bottled this title challenge today, it should never have got to this point.
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If Somerset win their match tonight I imagine some of their fans might travel to Lords tomorrow, praying for a draw.
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That's a disgrace of a shot from an international batsman, it's an ok delivery but no more. I'll call it early, Middlesex have absolutely bottled this title challenge today, it should never have got to this point.
Hehe - that we can agree on.
It has been a brilliant effort from Yorkshire once Bresnan came out to bat.
Bears declared.
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279/7 declared a lead of 346. I must confess to being a little surprised. 114 overs to bowl lancs out.
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Exciting stuff for a county championship game. I'm always interested in looking up the scores at close of play, but I'm rarely checking for constant updates. Come on you Bears.
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Exciting stuff for a county championship game. I'm always interested in looking up the scores at close of play, but I'm rarely checking for constant updates. Come on you Bears.
This
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Exciting stuff for a county championship game. I'm always interested in looking up the scores at close of play, but I'm rarely checking for constant updates. Come on you Bears.
I'm usually the same but the 3 way title fight and 3 way relegation fight meant this round was always going to produce some belters. The 45minutes before the rain break in the yorkshire game (after Sidebottom came in) is about the most tense spell of county cricket I've seen, made for brilliant watching.
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I've been signed off work at the right time, have barely taken my eyes off the game today.
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Does anyone else think we should have ensured another 50 runs were on the scoreboard before declaring? Or am I barking?
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Hants have lost a fifth, 108/5 nowhere near enough of a lead for them to feel safe but with so many wickets down they have to bat a little more carefully now.
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Hants have lost a fifth, 108/5 nowhere near enough of a lead for them to feel safe but with so many wickets down they have to bat a little more carefully now.
And a 6th. And Lancs are 1 down.
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Does anyone else think we should have ensured another 50 runs were on the scoreboard before declaring? Or am I barking?
batting late on day 3/day 4 against our attack I think the chances of lancs getting the runs is very slim, especially given a draw is good enough for them, I doubt they'll even try.
First wicket has gone anyway 5/1 Barker with another.
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Good to see an early wit, 5/1 hants really struggling 109/6. Just got to go for the win, lead by 159. May not get anywhere near enough.
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I think it's getting very close to the point where we can breathe easy, hants seem determined to give Durham a chance for the win.
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At Edgbaston now. Hopefully get another wicket tonight. Jeets is bowling now - just taken a second wicket lbw as I'm typing - 17/2!! COYB!!!
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What a nice man Jason Gillespie sounds.
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What a nice man Jason Gillespie sounds.
Thought he did very well to put up with that prat Colville. We'll miss him.
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I'd say that day has definitely gone to the Bears. Lancs closing on 28/3 is massive and you've have to say we're well on top and Hants are still well short of being able to declare safely but with 7 down and needing to take 10 wickets themselves they haven't really got the firepower or time to push on much more. I suspect they'll flash themselves out with a lead of 250ish and see what happens, probably the only real choice now.
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What a nice man Jason Gillespie sounds.
Thought he did very well to put up with that prat Colville. We'll miss him.
Gillespie does come across as a genuine guy.
I've always liked Colville, harks back to older More simpler Sky Sports days when you had presenters rather than ex-players.
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Seems like Trott and Vaughan wont be sending each other Christmas cards anymore.
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Seems like Trott and Vaughan wont be sending each other Christmas cards anymore.
Regardless of the truth or otherwise of the claims made, Michael Vaughan has developed into, and pardon my language, a bit of a prick.
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Seems like Trott and Vaughan wont be sending each other Christmas cards anymore.
Regardless of the truth or otherwise of the claims made, Michael Vaughan has developed into, and pardon my language, a bit of a prick.
Oh he always was, it's just when he was scoring runs for England he was a useful prick. He's the only ex-player turned commentator in the sport that I honestly don't like, seems to have an opinion of himself that is vastly out of kilter with his actual abilities and seems far too eager to slag current players off for anything.
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I don't think Vaughan has a single clue about stress/mental illness and the affect on performance. If something isn't right in your head how can you perform at your best at Test level?
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Vaughan is a dork brained wassock for sure, but his comments were after an interview that Trotty gave to Sky where he used some derogatory references about mental illness. Looks like Vaughan has engaged Sue, Grabbit and Run.
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He always came across of being harsh towards Trott. He made a dig about him chatting to the saffers when they were over which was unnecessary, and whether it was his county allegiance or something more professional, he certainly was happy to talk up the Yorkshire players.
I think he has become better on TMS recently - a little more impartial perhaps?
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Raining at Worcester. Lancs have survived the first 4 overs here with no problems.
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Hants lost an early wicket 199/8 lead 249. Not sure if mentioned but free entry down here today
43/3
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Wicket!
4 down
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51/4 handed CT Clarke b Wright 27
Hants 226/9 lead 276
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So long as there isn't a Yorkshire style resurgence we should win this.
Hampshire still batting. Thought they may give it a slog as they only have 1 wicket left and have to take 10 wickets still.
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So long as there isn't a Yorkshire style resurgence we should win this.
Hampshire still batting. Thought they may give it a slog as they only have 1 wicket left and have to take 10 wickets still.
Still almost 80 overs left I guess - all nine wickets to spin.....
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Well it firmly looks as if we are going to escape relegation but I hope the cup win does not gloss over what has been a pretty disastrous season.
With the players at our disposal we should have been in the battle for the championship rather than relegation.
I think Bell should relieve himself of the captaincy, it is obviously affecting his form, with his talent he should be scoring runs for fun at this level.
I also think Brown should go. He may well be one of the hardest working and deepest caring coach around but I don 't think he cuts it as the top guy. Our cricket is too often dull and uninspiring and the frailty of the batting must stem from the top as the talent in Bell, Trott and Hain should have seen us score plenty more runs.
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Seems like Trott and Vaughan wont be sending each other Christmas cards anymore.
Regardless of the truth or otherwise of the claims made, Michael Vaughan has developed into, and pardon my language, a bit of a prick.
Vaughan questions the honesty and integrity of a man whose honesty and integrity he has questioned inexchange for payment for a column he writes. I won't name any names but a writer who works with the TMS team was happy to confirm he's a deeply unpleasant man who is primarily driven by money. Unless there is something in it for him he's not interested.
When my brother was on TMS he said he was made to feel very welcome by all the team who were keen to know about the work his charity did, all bar one person.
I know several people who have had dealings with him and not one of them has a good word to say about him. Vaughan that is,not my brother!
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Hampshire have declared with a lead of 295.
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Seems like Trott and Vaughan wont be sending each other Christmas cards anymore.
Regardless of the truth or otherwise of the claims made, Michael Vaughan has developed into, and pardon my language, a bit of a prick.
Vaughan questions the honesty and integrity of a man whose honesty and integrity he has questioned inexchange for payment for a column he writes. I won't name any names but a writer who works with the TMS team was happy to confirm he's a deeply unpleasant man who is primarily driven by money. Unless there is something in it for him he's not interested.
When my brother was on TMS he said he was made to feel very welcome by all the team who were keen to know about the work his charity did, all bar one person.
I know several people who have had dealings with him and not one of them has a good word to say about him. Vaughan that is,not my brother!
I know someone who has met him a few times and they've said the same and it's no surprise, that's exactly how he comes across to me.
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Hopefully Durham won't be tempted to go for it. Nice boring draw there will be fine.
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Seems like Trott and Vaughan wont be sending each other Christmas cards anymore.
Regardless of the truth or otherwise of the claims made, Michael Vaughan has developed into, and pardon my language, a bit of a prick.
Vaughan questions the honesty and integrity of a man whose honesty and integrity he has questioned inexchange for payment for a column he writes. I won't name any names but a writer who works with the TMS team was happy to confirm he's a deeply unpleasant man who is primarily driven by money. Unless there is something in it for him he's not interested.
When my brother was on TMS he said he was made to feel very welcome by all the team who were keen to know about the work his charity did, all bar one person.
I know several people who have had dealings with him and not one of them has a good word to say about him. Vaughan that is,not my brother!
If nothing else, he deserves pelters for that awful advert he is currently in.
It isn't difficult to imagine him being a bit of a ****.
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52 from 36 overs. Fsir to say Lancs aren't going for the win here.
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Hampshire have declared with a lead of 295.
I'm not sure what to think about this from their point of view. The important thing today was always taking 10 wickets, yes they had to add some runs to give them the option to be very attacking but I wonder if they've left themselves too much to do. Durham have no need to try to chase down the total for the win so by giving them a tougher target they're offering no real incentive for Durham to play their shots, 240-250 might have been a better idea. We'll see I guess and if they don't win this it will be the piss poor bowling yesterday that costs them not the decision made today.
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Can't blame them, they need a draw to stay up. A wicket or two before lunch would be lovely.
ETA: not in Southampton.
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52 from 36 overs. Fsir to say Lancs aren't going for the win here.
Night watchman Kerrigan has survived 88 balls for 7 runs.
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52 from 36 overs. Fsir to say Lancs aren't going for the win here.
Night watchman Kerrigan has survived 88 balls for 7 runs.
Proper cricket!
Looks like a draw at Lord's, if Middlesex set a target I can see Willey opening the batting with Lyth.
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5 down - good catch by Hain.
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Croft caught by Gain from Clarke's first ball!
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Rikki Clsrke gets a wicket with his first ball snd nearly another with his second. 57-5
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Five to go! If we win I can start cheering for Hampshire to send Lancashire down!
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And I wish I could stop pressing s instead of a.
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With my Moto G in portrait mode and Edgbaston WiFi covering a section of the screen with their advert it is a wonder that any messages make sense.
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59/5 here and Durham reply under way
25/0 6.2 overs
Middx 164/2 lead 45
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Livingstone goes for a positively frisky 7 off 9 balls. 64-6
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Four to go! You bears!
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Livingstone gone.
Kerrigan with a proper #DigIn
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64/6. Great catch by Trott in the slips.
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Come on - just 4 more wickets
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and 6 but Kerrigan is still there.
This is pretty embarrassing from Lancs, could feasibly end up skittling them for less than 250 across both innings in a game where a draw was all they ever needed.
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The night watchman has survived 100 balls for 9 runs.
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Great effort by Middlesex; they were about 9/2 and now they're 181/2. They probably won't have enough time to build up a good lead and bowl Yorkshire out, but it could be an exciting match.
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Round of applause for Kerrigan's 100 (balls for 9 runs).
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Round of applause for Kerrigan's 100 (balls for 9 runs).
Fully deserved, him and Hameed are the only 2 that have done what they're supposed to (that's the number 11 and a 19 year old). I don't think it will happen but they've got no one to blame but themselves if they go down from here. We have the best attack in the league but even still this is a shameful performance.
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Kerrigan hurt by a Clarke bouncer. Carrying on after treatment to his hand.
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I can't quite work out what middlesex are doing now. Lost Gubbins at 200/3 so lead is only 80 but they're already down to 63 overs to bowl Yorkshire out. With that in midn I'd have expected the next guy to come out swinging but he's let 5 dots go through.
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No doubt the captains will have a chat during the lunch break and see if they can make a game of it.
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Finally got rid of the limpet Kerrigan. 73-7
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I reckon Middlesex want to set a target of around 160/180 and put Yorkshire in with 20 overs to get it.
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8 down, Patel strikes
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Clark sent Clarke's stumps cartwheeling. 77/8.
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Clarke bowled clark ( or was it clark bowled Clarke?) 77-8
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It is an odd bit of batting by Middlesex. Scoring at 2 an over, over the last 10 overs. You'd think they'd be desperately trying to score runs quickly.
Maybe they've given up and decided to f*ck Yorkshire over.
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I reckon Middlesex want to set a target of around 160/180 and put Yorkshire in with 20 overs to get it.
You're probably right, fucking stupid plan that gifts the title to somerset though.
about 200 from 40-45 would be giving themselves a proper chance because all 3 results are still possible then, this silliness is just taking time out of the game for little purpose.
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Reckon I'll be in town soon. Rikki clatters another set of stumps. 83-9
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More cartwheeling stumps courtesy of Clarke. 9 down.
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Middlesex must have got the hump with Yorkshire after they batted on yesterday.
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4-4-6-0-4 by Lilley of Patel.
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Middlesex must have got the hump with Yorkshire after they batted on yesterday.
Yep I reckon so - by batting on they made it almost impossible for Middlesex to win. Why should Middlesex set them 180 off 30.....they wont be able to bowl them out in that short a time.
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Match over. Clarke 4 for 20.
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And we stay up.
Excellent bowling from Rikki and Jeets.
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Can see Middlesex and Yorkshire being a grudge match next year.
Come on Hampshire, only 9 wickets to go.
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Lees is just a wicket taking machine. Oops.
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Simpson goes after scoring thirty-one in six minutes.
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how very odd, after all this silliness Simpson goes out and does that. Push things along like that an hour ago and you could've been looking at 240 from 45-50 which would've been really interesting.
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Why have Middlesex not declared yet?
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240 off 40?
I reckon Yorkshire are laughing there.
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Dunno, day 4 pitch and a top order that collapsed on day 2, I think that's about fair, with no fielding and bowling restrictions on a pitch that's staying low they'll need a couple of good performances. I reckon start normal but with Willey padded up to come on early.
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Well done you Bears! That's more like how Warwickshire should play. The title was there for the taking with a couple more wins. Need to sort the Batting for next year.
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Should be interesting 6 an over. Seems they are trying to rule Somerset out.
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I wonder if things start well for Yorks how quickly Middlesex will spread the field?
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I wonder if things start well for Yorks how quickly Middlesex will spread the field?
Can they afford to? Whatever happens both teams have to go for the win so I suspect catchers in for the entire session regardless.
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I wonder if things start well for Yorks how quickly Middlesex will spread the field?
Can they afford to? Whatever happens both teams have to go for the win so I suspect catchers in for the entire session regardless.
Well they have a finite number of runs to play with....containing the scoring will lead to the batsman taking risks.
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Containing the scoring is going to be hard.
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I would agree with that but getting the batsmen to take risks I think is their best chance.
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Plenty of anger from Somerset about the declaration. It is a generous declaration but I think every county would do the same in similar circumstances. Apart from Somerset obviously.
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Plenty of anger from Somerset about the declaration. It is a generous declaration but I think every county would do the same in similar circumstances. Apart from Somerset obviously.
It goes back to the 3 day game and Contrived results. It's a shame it still has to happen in the 4 day game but without it county 4 day would probably die out altogether.
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Someone on twitter reckons we should get Andrew Gale to negotiate our Brexit with the EU.
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I can understand the frustration of Somerset supporters but the way some are stropping about it you'd think it was the first time there had ever been any declaration bowling. If I see 'spirit of cricket' mentioned again...
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Peter Trego tweeted:
Did that declaration come with gift aid??....
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I can understand the frustration of Somerset supporters but the way some are stropping about it you'd think it was the first time there had ever been any declaration bowling. If I see 'spirit of cricket' mentioned again...
I would like to see Somerset win it but they are quick to forget that pitch against us last week.
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I can understand the frustration of Somerset supporters but the way some are stropping about it you'd think it was the first time there had ever been any declaration bowling. If I see 'spirit of cricket' mentioned again...
I would like to see Somerset win it but they are quick to forget that pitch against us last week.
Somebody made a similar point about their pitches this season. Maybe it's my natural pessimism but I still don't think the target set is that generous.
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I can understand the frustration of Somerset supporters but the way some are stropping about it you'd think it was the first time there had ever been any declaration bowling. If I see 'spirit of cricket' mentioned again...
I would like to see Somerset win it but they are quick to forget that pitch against us last week.
Somebody made a similar point about their pitches this season. Maybe it's my natural pessimism but I still don't think the target set is that generous.
I agree with Nasser Hussain - Middlesex's best chance is when Yorkshire are really having to play some shots. At the moment they don't really need to - of course this may come.....
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Three down now and we aren't packed with batsmen.
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Three down now and we aren't packed with batsmen.
Don't worry Chris, Tim Bresnan's in to save the day.
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Three down now and we aren't packed with batsmen.
Don't worry Chris, Tim Bresnan's in to save the day.
Send Sidebottom in next!
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Hard to call this one. Yorkshire can only go all out for the win.Anything else and they finish 3rd.
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Looks like Durham are going to beat Hampshire after all that.
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If Bresnan had stuck around we might have got there, too much to do now.
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This is a great way to end the season, well done Warwick too!
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Back in favour of Somerset now. The Bears could've won this title with a bit more application. Batting has been the undoing. Still a great last week to the season with a trophy.
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This must be the most exciting finish to a season ever? Still three teams could win the league with just over seven overs left.
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This must be the most exciting finish to a season ever? Still three teams could win the league with just over seven overs left.
Just backed Yorkshire on Paddy power. I nearly had 33-1. betting got suspended and i got 20-1. Only had a silly £2.00
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Shut up shop now please Yorkshire! Want Zomerzet to win it.
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The damnable cocker knees have it in the bag.
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Hat-trick to win it. Well played. 😔
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Well Done Middlesex.
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What an end to the season, well done Middlesex. Further proof it's the best form of the game.
Andrew Strauss can fuck off though.
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Franklin and Rayner can for cough an all.
Well done, though.
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Until the bleating of the Somerset players and supporters I was fine with them winning it, bollocks to them!
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I thought it was a tough total despite all the nonsense from somerset, a run a ball on a 4th day pitch isn't the walk in the park some were suggesting. It's almost as if they've got so used to t20 that they'veforgotten everything about the longer form of the game.
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What a fantastic end to the season. For the title to go down to the last hour of the last day and be decided by a hat trick shows that the 4 day game is alive and well.
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Nipped to the bog for a dump and came back and it was all over, what a load of shite... literally!
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A Warwickshire win and a great finish to the CC. Roll on April.
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A Warwickshire win and a great finish to the CC. Roll on April.
The Bears need to sort the Batting out next season. A real problem this season nearly cost us a place in Division 1.
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Brief highlights of all 4 days v Lancs
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http://deepextracover.com/2016/09/warwickshire-finish-on-a-high-note-with-home-win-over-lancashire/
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ESPNcricinfo County Championship XI (http://www.espncricinfo.com/county-cricket-2016/content/story/1058555.html)
Ronnie and Jeets selected.
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Jeets called up to NZ squad in India also.
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Well done, Jeetan.
warwickshireccc.com (http://warwickshireccc.com/news/eetan-patel-wins-second-pca-mvp/)
Jeetan Patel wins second PCA MVP
Warwickshire off-spinner Jeetan Patel had cause for double celebration today when he followed up being recalled to New Zealand’s Test squad with winning the Professional Cricketers’ Association Most Valuable Player Rankings for the second time in three years.
Patel, 36, received a cheque for £10,000 for topping the overall PCA MVP which was presented by PCA Assistant Chief Executive Jason Ratcliffe at the Belfry Golf Centre near Birmingham where Patel had organised Warwickshire’s end-of-season Batsmen v Bowlers end-of-season golf match.
Patel, who last played Test cricket in 2013, arrived late, having spent time sorting out a visa at the Indian High Commission in Birmingham, and departed early to fly to Kolkata where he will link up with New Zealand having been summoned as a replacement for the injured Mark Craig ahead of Friday’s second Test.
“To walk away with the PCA MVP and take 69 wickets which is 10 more than I did last year is pretty special. It means I have worked hard, got my rewards and the Warwickshire guys have really helped me out,” Patel said.
“Winning the MVP for the second time in three years is really big. The first time it was about the pat on the back that I never really gave myself.
“I’m a big believer in rocking up to work, doing your job, going home and doing it again the next day. I never really stopped to think I did it well enough.
“It was exciting to win the MVP two years ago but this year is more special because we have struggled as a team on and off the park.
“To have a balanced family life helps and to have the peers around me that I do also helps. I am very lucky to have a bunch of guys who want to do well, they just probably need to be pushed in a different direction to get there.”
Patel moved into contention to win the PCA MVP in mid-season after he took ten wickets in the Specsavers County Championship win over Surrey at Guildford and overhauled Worcestershire all-rounder Joe Leach who set the early pace.
For the final two weeks of the season it appeared that Patel might be overtaken by Durham’s opening batsman Keaton Jennings but he took a firm grip on the title when he helped Warwickshire win the Royal London One Day Cup at Lord’s by beating Surrey nine days ago.
Patel ended the season with 102 wickets in all formats and topped the PCA MVP Rankings with 564 points, 44 more than Yorkshire all-rounder Tim Bresnan who overtook Jennings to finish as runner-up.
“You can’t help but look at the MVP Rankings especially when the PCA put up such a lovely fund for it and a lot of guys are vying for that position. Maybe my consistency got me over the line,” Patel said.
Patel marked his Warwickshire debut with a maiden first-class century against Yorkshire in 2009 and has just completed his seventh stint with the county having already signed up for 2017.
“I am in a very fortunate position. Warwickshire have given me a new lease on cricket, a life for my family that I would never have had if Warwickshire hadn’t come knocking,” Patel said.
“I’m lucky to be in the position I am in. It’s not that Warwickshire are lucky in any way whatsoever, I am definitely the lucky one here.
“I love playing this game and if I get to play for Warwickshire for as long as I can then it’s a beautiful thing.”
Patel, who turned down the chance to tour the West Indies two years ago to remain with Warwickshire, was surprised to receive a recall by New Zealand but it suggests that his MVP performance have been noted by the Black Caps selectors.
“It’s a massive carrot for me. Whether it’s a pat on the back or Mother Cricket saying: well done mate, you deserve this, I don’t know,” he said.
“But I’m excited. I’m an old boy going into a young and exciting team so they will push me. Even if it is just for two weeks I am happy to step in when someone is ill.
“I suppose it suggests that the selectors have been following my performances in county cricket. The beautiful thing is the game is played worldwide and it’s known worldwide. It’s nice to be looked at but it’s also a little bit daunting , I’m not going to lie.
“I thought my days were over and I didn’t have to worry about international cricket anymore, or the next selection or what I need to do to make the team. I think that as an international cricketer the hardest part of life is being on the fringe of the team. It’s not being in the team, it’s not being out of the team, it’s being on the fringe.
“I’m back on the fringe now. I will go and have some fun. If I play, I play, if I take wickets then I take wickets. But I will be doing the best I can. I have been playing so that probably makes me a bit more of an attractive option than someone else.”
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It'll be interesting to see how he goes out there. Like last year's South Africa tour of India, both sides have got spinners on turning pitches, but Ashwin and Jadeja are much better at it. From what I saw of the first Test Match, Craig wasn't as good as the pother two NZ spinners, so hopefully Jeets will improve things.
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Regarding the Trott / Vaughan issue.....this is from The Guardian and I thought it summed up the situation quite nicely.
“It is wholly wrong and entirely false to suggest that any comments I have made concerning professional cricketers are anything other than my genuinely held, honest opinions.”
You may well have seen that Jonathan Trott makes some pretty serious accusations against Michael Vaughan in his new autobiography, Unguarded. Trott writes that as well as being a “high-profile summariser” Vaughan is also a “Business Development Manager” for management firm ISM, and argues that several of ISM’s clients stood to benefit from Trott being dropped from the England team. Trott asks whether this may have influenced Vaughan’s decision to publicly criticise him in 2013, and says that all his articles should come with a disclaimer attached.
Vaughan denies that he had a role with ISM at the time, and strongly rebuts Trott’s “attack on my honesty or my integrity”. A press release put out by the ECB in 2009 does state that Vaughan had taken a role with ISM, and he is still a client of the company today. Earlier this summer, he argued that James Vince should be picked for England ahead of Nick Compton. Vince is an ISM client. Compton is not. Those who know Vaughan will say he isn’t biased. But while he maintains both his relationship with ISM and his work in the media, there will always be some people who perceive a conflict of interests.
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In truth it's a stupid position to put himself in and the only real surprise is that it's taken an open attack on his integrity for the mainstream press to properly pick up on it. It is very difficult to see how the 2 roles aren't at least bordering on a conflict of interests and I think the suggestion of a disclaimer if his company represents a player he discusses is fair.
On a wider point I think all industries should be like this, if you work in the press and report on someone you work with that should be clear in the article(s).
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Just announced that Recordo Gordon has been released by Bears at the end of his contract.
Wish him well but i think fair to say he struggled a bit, had a few good games in T20's.
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Wow - Durham must have been in a bigger mess than imaginable. Relegation and giving up test status for serious cash.
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Wow - Durham must have been in a bigger mess than imaginable. Relegation and giving up test status for serious cash.
They've lost several goods players as they were not paying competitive salaries so it's been going on for some time. They also start next season with a 48 point deduction.
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More on the Durham situation
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/37541136
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A truly brutal punishment whether deserved or not I'm not sure.
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More importantly Hampshire circle the drain and stay up again, lucky fuckers.
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Brown is leaving by "mutual consent".
I can't say that I'm surprised at the news.
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Brown is leaving by "mutual consent".
I can't say that I'm surprised at the news.
Nor me. King of Spain to return?
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Brown is leaving by "mutual consent".
I can't say that I'm surprised at the news.
Nor me. King of Spain to return?
Giles will be one of the favourites along with Andy Flower, who apparently lives in Stratford.
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Not too sure about Giles, he may relish continuing what he has started at Lancs. Flower an interesting one for consideration.
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Brown is free to talk to Villa now.
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The right decision and good on him if it really was "mutual consent".
Graeme Welch possibly, assisted by Troughton. Or indeed Troughton himself.
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Someone who will encourage us to be more aggressive with our batting in the Championship is essential.
Good luck to Dougie regardless, a great servant to the club over the years.
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Brown is leaving by "mutual consent".
I can't say that I'm surprised at the news.
Nor me. King of Spain to return?
Giles will be one of the favourites along with Andy Flower, who apparently lives in Stratford.
Would be an excellent appointment. Glad Dougie Brown left on the high of the Lord's win and staying up after the years of service he has given.
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Don't want Andy Flower. It must be Giles? Surely Ashley would want to comeback, although I'm not sure of his current contract with Lancashire? Or what about Allan Donald??
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The England & Wales Cricket Board and Warwickshire County Cricket Club have announced today (06/10) that Edgbaston Stadium will host the England cricket team’s first ever day/night Investec Test Match in 2017.
Taking place from Thursday 17th to Monday 21st August, England will face West Indies at Edgbaston in the first Test of the Investec Series, which will be played with a pink Dukes ball between the hours of 2PM until 9PM, subject to ICC clearance.
The occasion also marks a significant milestone for Edgbaston as the 50th Test Match in its 115-year history as an international venue.
Neil Snowball, Chief Executive of Warwickshire County Cricket Club, said: “Bringing day/night Test cricket to England is an innovative and very exciting development for the game, and we’re thrilled that Edgbaston will be the first venue to host a match played in this format.
“Edgbaston staged the UK’s first day/night domestic match in 1997 and has a great history of hosting and selling out some of the biggest fixtures in the game. In turn, the Edgbaston atmosphere and match day experience has become iconic, with England having a fantastic record of victories here.
“Marking our 50th Test anniversary with a game of this magnitude will be a great occasion. We will be working very closely with our delivery partners and key stakeholders on our planning and operations to ensure that this first ever day/night Investec Test Match is a huge success.”
The day/night format for the Investec Test Match follows a successful trial at Edgbaston in August, this year, where a Second XI Championship match was staged between Warwickshire and Worcestershire in similar conditions. Australia and New Zealand contested the world’s first day/night Test Match in Adelaide in November 2015.
ECB Chief Executive Officer Tom Harrison said: “We’re excited by the prospect of staging our first ever day/night Test Match.
“It’s a great opportunity to attract more fans to the game and see how staging Test cricket in the afternoon and evening fits with working patterns and modern lifestyles, whilst maintaining the deep tradition of Test match cricket.
“We think it can help attract different fans and families to Test cricket and the innovation will certainly put the five-day game under the spotlight in a very busy summer for the game.
“A number of Test nations are looking at day/night Tests as a way of building further interest in our most traditional format. We’re glad to be supporting that and adding to the understanding of how this might develop in different countries.
“Our partners can also see the clear opportunity and have been supportive as we build towards this big occasion next August.
“We would like to thank the West Indies Cricket Board and Warwickshire CCC in particular for their support. Edgbaston has a great tradition of staging Test cricket and we’re really looking forward to working with them on this innovation.”
Tickets for the day/night Investec Test Match at Edgbaston between England and West Indies are available from 10am on Monday 10 October, priced from £26 and £6 for under 16s.
Please visit www.edgbaston.com/tickets or call the Ticket Hotline on 0844 847 1902 to purchase.
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You heard it here first...I have it on good authority that Andy Flower is the man wanted by WCCC.
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I'd be happy with that, he had a massive positive impact on England for a while and deserves credit for that. Should know how to get a bit extra out of Bell and Trott as well, you'd hope.
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I'll just throw Andy Moles into the mix.
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Don't throw him my way, please. I don't want broken ribs.
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I'll just throw Andy Moles into the mix.
Nailed in certainty at one point in the future.
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You heard it here first...I have it on good authority that Andy Flower is the man wanted by WCCC.
I think that Flower would be an ideal coach for the Bears. As much as we want Giles back, that's more of an emotional thing. Why would he leave Lancashire where his job is only half finished? He's moved on from the Bears, let's remember he chose to leave when England came calling.
Flower and Bell know each other well from their England days and I suspect Flower would be well placed to kick start Hain's career which has stalled for two seasons. I think he qualifies for England next season so the media scrutiny will increase.
Whatever happens, the biggest challenge facing the new coach is the ageing squad that he will inherit. The batting line up is brittle and in the main they're old!
Moles is a good shout, but for me Flower is the perfect choice.
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I've heard that Tim Ambrose, who was part of the England set up when Flower was in charge, does not get on with him. You only have to read Pietersen's book to see how divisive he is.
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I've heard that Tim Ambrose, who was part of the England set up when Flower was in charge, does not get on with him. You only have to read Pietersen's book to see how divisive he is.
I would agree. Whats Duncan Fletcher doing these days....is he still with India. Started very well with England went a bit stale towards the end but that may have been due to getting too comfortable.
Was there for 8 years.
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Flower caused no end of problems in the England dressing room. Read KP's book on this. Prefer Giles back, he's a Bear at heart. Or, would Allan Donald be interested?
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There is a heck of a lot anti-Flower sentiment here. I wouldn't listen to anything KP says for starters. Flower did an absolutely fabulous job as England coach. I would absolutely be not adverse to him taking the Bears forward. I still think it will be an in-house appointment though.
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I'd be more than happy with Flower, Donald or Giles.
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I'd be more than happy with Flower, Donald or Giles.
Yep, any of those would be good.
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KP has several massive chips on both his shoulders about anything to do with England, maybe quite rightly in some cases, but that shouldn't distract from the fact that Flower is a great coach and would be a massive coup for The Bears if we could get him.
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I reckon we should go for Ryan Giggs.
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I reckon we should go for Ryan Giggs.
Can he open the batting?
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I reckon we should go for Ryan Giggs.
Can he open the batting?
No, but Gary Neville could.
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I reckon we should go for Ryan Giggs.
Can he open the batting?
No, but Gary Neville could.
I think Phil was the superior cricketer.
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There is a heck of a lot anti-Flower sentiment here. I wouldn't listen to anything KP says for starters. Flower did an absolutely fabulous job as England coach. I would absolutely be not adverse to him taking the Bears forward. I still think it will be an in-house appointment though.
Jim Troughton!!!
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There is a heck of a lot anti-Flower sentiment here. I wouldn't listen to anything KP says for starters. Flower did an absolutely fabulous job as England coach. I would absolutely be not adverse to him taking the Bears forward. I still think it will be an in-house appointment though.
Jim Troughton!!!
Troughton would be a sentimental choice, "oh he's a Bear through and through". We shouldn't go down the sentimental route, we need a coach with a proven track record. The club are facing several challenges over the next few seasons, not least of which is the ageing squad. Flower would bring experience and gravitas and help attract the right calibre of player.
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Has Donald done any coaching? If you follow him on twitter, he just seems to spend his time watching rugby.
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Has Donald done any coaching? If you follow him on twitter, he just seems to spend his time watching rugby.
He was South Africa's bowling coach but I don't think he's been head coach.
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Still no news on the new director of cricket? I'm hoping Ashley Giles rejoins the Bears. Apparently he still lives in Droitwich which might sway his decision if approached?
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Good article about Keith Barker:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/37363776
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Barker doesn't play for a Southern County. Look at how the selectors have persisted with people like Vince who's simply not good enough.
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That's not fair really. I reckon anyone who's watched Vince at county level would've thought he looked like an international in the making, he's got an elegance to him that seems suited to it. He reminds me of Bell when he first got in, you could see the ability was there but it just wasn't happening. I wouldn't be surprised if Vince comes back into things in a couple of years and makes a much better fist of it. If we're going to talk about selectors persisting with people then I think the first place to look is Gary Ballance. started well for England but fell apart when an obvious flaw was found in his technique, he did nothing to rectify it and had a very average time at Yorkshire and suddenly he's back and failing again. That decision is highly questionable and looks worse every time he gives his wicket away cheaply.
I think Barker is really a victim of the fact that England have a lot of very good swing bowlers, who out of Anderson, Broad, Woakes, Stokes, Wood and Finn is he a significant upgrade on? The latter 2 maybe but they're carrying drinks when we have everyone fit and I don't see much point in calling up a 30 year old to carry drinks.
Personally I'd have made the Ansari>Batty change they have and also Hameed>Ballance and nudge Duckett down to 3 (the Broad change is just wrapping him up which is fair enough) for tomorrow because I really wanted to see if Hameed is the player he appears to be and I can't imagine them giving him a debut in India, certainly not in the first couple of tests.
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Barker is a very, very good county bowler.
The art of being a good selector though isn't just picking everyone that does well at county level, not all will excel at the next step up. For me, Barker is one who wouldn't make the step up, he doesn't have that extra yard of pace (the yard which Woakes has gained over the last 2 years which has seen him go from average at best Test bowler to a good one).
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Big boots to fill but Andrew Gale is the new first team coach at Yorkshire.
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Isn't he a bit young for that? Seems like a lot to take on if he's still playing. I guess the advantage is that he's worked under Gillespie as captain so they see as providing continuity.
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He's retired as a player, think he's a good appointment as he's very highly thought of by the players, worked closely with Gillespie and it brings a bit of continuation. He had a poor season with the bat this year, should imagine Lees will be given the captaincy.
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Ah, I didn't realise he'd retired, he's only about 31-32 isn't he?
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Ah, I didn't realise he'd retired, he's only about 31-32 isn't he?
32. Think he announced his retirement today!
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Pat Murphy is reporting that the Bears want the King of Spain back:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/37971946
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Giles will surely find the lure of Edgbaston too good to turn down and being close to home?
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Never go back.
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Giles has always struck me as a pretty decent/honourable guy so I do think he will feel that he has an unfinished job at Lancashire and be compelled to stay.
I agree with the "never go back" sentiment and think that whilst Giles would be a good choice I think they will look elsewhere. I'd like to see Flower get the job, he lives locally and is an internationally respected coach.
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Pat Murphy is reporting that the Bears want the King of Spain back:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/37971946 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/37971946)
George Dobell concurs.
Giles moves closer to return to Warwickshire (http://www.espncricinfo.com/county-cricket-2016/content/story/1066408.html).
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Giles is a Bear at heart and a great coach. Hope it's him back at Edgbaston by the end of the week.
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Mellors and Poysden extended their contracts till end of 2018 today.
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Birmingham Bears 2017 Fixtures Announced (http://birminghambears.com/news/2017-fixtures-announced/)
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Saturday fixture good idea... be better if it was Saturday afternoon but still an improvement.
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Bears' County Championship fixtures:
(https://i.emlfiles.com/cmpimg/4/8/1/0/6/files/imagecache/7777401/w732_8215106_ecb00159_ccfixturesemail_warwickshire.jpg)Save
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Only 2 championship home games between the end of April and start of September is truly random ! However I guess this is partly due to the Champions Trophy games at Edgbaston and the reduced number of teams in Division One now.
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Why are the club appearing to dither over re-appointing Giles? This early stage of preparation for the new season is so important. The players are back in training from their end of season break.
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Why are the club appearing to dither over re-appointing Giles? This early stage of preparation for the new season is so important. The players are back in training from their end of season break.
How do you know that they're dithering? I'm sure Lancashire don't want to lose him and if they've dug their heels in there isn't much the Bears can do. Giles has always struck me as a pretty decent and honourable guy so I imagine he feels a sense of duty to Lancashire. Regardless of his history with the Bears, he works for Lancashire now and may feel that he has unfinished business there.
I don't buy this "he's a Bear" nonsense. This is his job, nothing more, nothing less.
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Overall, another terrible fixture list. Only one limited overs game on a Saturday, so you have to book a day off work if you want to attend and drink heavily at the game.
I probably won't bother attending any of them, it's murder to book annual leave at our place and it'll be a waste if it rains.
PLAY ON SATURDAYS YOU ******!
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Overall, another terrible fixture list. Only one limited overs game on a Saturday, so you have to book a day off work if you want to attend and drink heavily at the game.
I probably won't bother attending any of them, it's murder to book annual leave at our place and it'll be a waste if it rains.
PLAY ON SATURDAYS YOU c***s!
But pretty good for us shift workers, I can get to quite a few of those while you 9-5ers are slaving away.
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"Slaving away"? I thought you knew me better than that!
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Why are the club appearing to dither over re-appointing Giles? This early stage of preparation for the new season is so important. The players are back in training from their end of season break.
How do you know that they're dithering? I'm sure Lancashire don't want to lose him and if they've dug their heels in there isn't much the Bears can do. Giles has always struck me as a pretty decent and honourable guy so I imagine he feels a sense of duty to Lancashire. Regardless of his history with the Bears, he works for Lancashire now and may feel that he has unfinished business there.
I don't buy this "he's a Bear" nonsense. This is his job, nothing more, nothing less.
Erm, the fact that it's been reported that Giles still lives in Droitwich, is living out of a suitcase in hotels and has family health issues has nothing to do with it?
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Why are the club appearing to dither over re-appointing Giles? This early stage of preparation for the new season is so important. The players are back in training from their end of season break.
How do you know that they're dithering? I'm sure Lancashire don't want to lose him and if they've dug their heels in there isn't much the Bears can do. Giles has always struck me as a pretty decent and honourable guy so I imagine he feels a sense of duty to Lancashire. Regardless of his history with the Bears, he works for Lancashire now and may feel that he has unfinished business there.
I don't buy this "he's a Bear" nonsense. This is his job, nothing more, nothing less.
Erm, the fact that it's been reported that Giles still lives in Droitwich, is living out of a suitcase in hotels and has family health issues has nothing to do with it?
He's still employed by Lancashire. I really think he will feel he has a job to finish up there.
His wife's health issues are well documented, but that didn't stop him leaving the Bears for the England one day job and then joining Lancashire. As a Cricket professional he would spend half his life away from home anyway, he will be pretty familiar with the inside of hotel rooms.
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Stratford Herald (http://www.stratford-herald.com/62203-giles-keen-get-future-sorted-quickly.html)
Giles keen to get future sorted quickly after link to Warwickshire job
LANCASHIRE head coach and cricket director Ashley Giles insists his future will be resolved ‘soon’ after being linked with a move back to Warwickshire.
The former England spinner has been in charge at Lancashire for two seasons, but maintains he has been “well looked after” at Old Trafford despite being linked with a move back to Warwickshire – who he coached between 2007 and 2012.
“It’s a very sensitive issue and I really can’t sit here and talk about my employment,” he told BBC Radio 5 Live.
“By no means have I fallen out with Lancashire, it’s a very personal issue. I hope we can come to a resolution soon for all parties.”
When the fact his family still lived in the Midlands was mentioned, Giles added: “You’ve hit the nail on the head there. But at the same time we sign contracts and are paid to do a job.”
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I listened to that interview (Its part of the Tuffers and Vaughan show available via a podcast)
The way I read it/interpreted it was that Gilo's family still live in the Midlands and he was coming back to Edgbaston for personal reasons
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Reading between the lines I'd say Lancashire don't want to lose him and are playing hard ball with the Bears.
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At the end of the day, if he's not happy at Lancs then it's best all round for him to move on. I predict he'll be back at Edgbaston in the next few days.
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At the end of the day, if he's not happy at Lancs then it's best all round for him to move on. I predict he'll be back at Edgbaston in the next few days.
He's not saying that he's unhappy there. If the vacancy at Edgbaston hadn't come up then I'm pretty sure he'd have happily stayed where he is. A vacancy has come up at the one club where he's wanted and where there's an emotional pull. I don't think he'd leave Lancashire mid contract for any other job in the county championship.
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The Giles situation is odd. This Snowball guy is dithering. Colin Povey would be more decisive.
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Warwickshire leg spinner Josh Poysden has been selected for the England Lions squad for the 50-over series against Sri Lanka in February and March next year.
The 25-year-old - who recently signed a two-year contract extension with Warwickshire - spent the first part of the close season working with the Lions as a net bowler at the performance camps in Loughborough and Dubai.
After impressing during his time with the squad and helping the Bears win the Royal London One-Day Cup in 2016, he will join the Lions in the New Year, with Durham opener Keaton Jennings leading the squad across both formats.
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Really? Thought he was quite average.
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Really? Thought he was quite average.
I think it says more about the dearth of spinners in this country rather than his outstanding qualities.
However, as a 25 year old leg spinner I'd say he still has plenty of time to learn his craft.
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Well maybe. But I see him as no different to the many that we have tried over the years. One or two good balls, then a full toss, then a waist high full toss, a long hop, and a googly. I always expect to see ENgland leg-spinners 0 or 1 -162 over 37 overs.
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WARWICKSHIRE COUNTY CRICKET CLUB HAS APPOINTED ITS FORMER COUNTY CHAMPIONSHIP-WINNING CAPTAIN JIM TROUGHTON AS FIRST TEAM COACH
Troughton (37) has been Assistant Coach at the club since retiring from playing in 2014 and will oversee all Warwickshire and Birmingham Bears men's first team matters and will be supported in this new role by Club Captain Ian Bell, Bowling Coach Alan Richardson and Batting & Second Team Coach Tony Frost as part of a new structure for the club.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/38329800
The BBC report on the above.
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Reading ESPN Cricinfo, Giles has one year left at Lancs. Can't help but feel it's a temporary appointment until Giles comes back. Just hope our ageing side can survive.
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Reading ESPN Cricinfo, Giles has one year left at Lancs. Can't help but feel it's a temporary appointment until Giles comes back. Just hope our ageing side can survive.
If Giles does come in it will be as Director of Cricket. Troughton will be his number two in the same way that Dougie Brown was first team coach under Giles before he left for the England ODI job.
Lancashire clearly don't want to lose Giles and seem to be playing hard ball with the Bears.
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I hope he's not too 'close' to the current team and ends up mates instead of leading and managing.
Not convinced.
Virat Kohli has said he'd like to play CC prior to their tour in 2018. Do we have room to have assuming Jeet signs again? I know it's forward thinking, but imagine the Indian support if we had him for a few months.
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Welcome home Gilo!
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🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸
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Good news on Ashley! (As predicted).