Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: trevor fisher on January 10, 2016, 08:15:35 PM
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THe anger of fans is justified but the ideas going around for protests inside the ground and abuse of the players and manager as seen after the Wycombe game make no sense at all. The problems are all at board level and their activities - or lack of activity - has to be questioned and changes made. We are not finished as a club even if we go down, and we are not down yet, though I doubt we can survive. However a cup run is not impossible.
Even it this does not happen, the club has to start building for the future, and the poor atmosphere inside the stadium has to be improved. Having protests that would make the squad get even more nervous and make even more mistakes is not sensible. There is no point in making a bad situation worse. Aim higher, aim for the man in New York who would not be affected by stadium protests. Much of the pressure that got Deadly to opt out was from an independent report into what was going wrong at that time. Repeating that would be sensible, even if no likely to make fans feel better.
Don't get mad, get even
Trevor Fisher
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Denny Crane
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THe anger of fans is justified but the ideas going around for protests inside the ground and abuse of the players and manager as seen after the Wycombe game make no sense at all. The problems are all at board level and their activities - or lack of activity - has to be questioned and changes made. We are not finished as a club even if we go down, and we are not down yet, though I doubt we can survive. However a cup run is not impossible.
Even it this does not happen, the club has to start building for the future, and the poor atmosphere inside the stadium has to be improved. Having protests that would make the squad get even more nervous and make even more mistakes is not sensible. There is no point in making a bad situation worse. Aim higher, aim for the man in New York who would not be affected by stadium protests. Much of the pressure that got Deadly to opt out was from an independent report into what was going wrong at that time. Repeating that would be sensible, even if no likely to make fans feel better.
Don't get mad, get even
Trevor Fisher
Well said that man.
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Perhaps after investing an awful lot to reach a Carling Cup Final and lose. Then cut back and reach a FA Cup Final and lose.
He might just be thinking sit back and wait to get lucky.....
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People have a tendency to attack the visible. We can't generally see Fox or Lerner. We CAN see the players and the Manager, therefore, they get the stick. Fortunately, the media also see this too but they are able to put to words where the fans can't and are beginning to recognise the issues within the club and are starting to report it accurately.
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I've said it before fox and Lerner are the major culprits and very clever in letting the previous managers and the current one along with the players take all the abuse while they hide away ,it doesn't matter what you pay the player if their not good enough their not good enough
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According to some of the papers fox is flying out for crisis talks with lord Lucan across the pond to try to save our season no doubt he'll be flying lazy jet because of the cut backs
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According to some of the papers fox is flying out for crisis talks with lord Lucan across the pond to try to save our season no doubt he'll be flying lazy jet because of the cut backs
They should put him in dinghy and launch him from Lizard Point.
(http://www.dprp.net/proghistory/1972_03/foxtrotcover.jpg)
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Of course the management of the club has been poor at Board level for a long time, but Saturday's performance was a completely abject set of players apparently not giving a toss about wining the match.
There seems to be a lack of wanting to play for this manager by some of the players and they seem to be those who are not French. If the reports of Lescott and Guzan having a gum spitting competition from the bench are true, they should be fined by the club for inappropriate behaviour and their responses to the fans. It would seem that the behind the scenes behaviour and attitude of some players is reflected in their on the pitch performances. Perhaps they believe they can force the manager out, as has happened at other clubs, but I doubt they are good enough players to force that action.
If today's visit to Lerner by Fox and the Director of Football is about obtaining funds, it is probably too late for this season, so why would he make significant funds available, as their past record of purchases of players has hardly been successful, and why would any decent player want to join Villa now?
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We could all wear black on the day as a protest of once proud club.
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Why are the board flying out to Randy? Why can't that twonk get his arse over here? He's got an office in the club gathering dust. There's probably a half eaten maggot infested PB&J sandwich he left in his desk drawer the last time he visited.
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We could all wear black on the day as a protest of once proud club.
I usually do anyway - ahead of the trend me ;-)
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Why are the board flying out to Randy? Why can't that twonk get his arse over here? He's got an office in the club gathering dust. There's probably a half eaten maggot infested PB&J sandwich he left in his desk drawer the last time he visited.
Twonk 😂 Very underrated word is twonk.
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Why are the board flying out to Randy? Why can't that twonk get his arse over here? He's got an office in the club gathering dust. There's probably a half eaten maggot infested PB&J sandwich he left in his desk drawer the last time he visited.
Twonk 😂 Very underrated word is twonk.
I like to think of it as a hybrid of twat, tosser and wanker.
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Why are the board flying out to Randy? Why can't that twonk get his arse over here? He's got an office in the club gathering dust. There's probably a half eaten maggot infested PB&J sandwich he left in his desk drawer the last time he visited.
Twonk 😂 Very underrated word is twonk.
I like to think of it as a hybrid of twat, tosser and wanker.
It is very efficient. I wish Bacuna was as efficient a hybrid of a right back, right winger and central midfielder. But he's not...in fact he's a twonk.
eh thank you.
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We could all wear black on the day as a protest of once proud club.
Black is soooo last year dahling, I'll be wearing green chiffon.
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We could all wear black on the day as a protest of once proud club.
Black is soooo last year dahling, I'll be wearing green chiffon.
Black is a timeless classic, your green chiffon will be so next week next week...
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I don't think I can still get into my little black dress.
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On the local news earlier protests were mentioned and that fans are being asked to wait outside the ground until 15 minutes after kick off. I am not sure a few soaking wet fans arriving late will have the impact they are hoping for.
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On the local news earlier protests were mentioned and that fans are being asked to wait outside the ground until 15 minutes after kick off. I am not sure a few soaking wet fans arriving late will have the impact they are hoping for.
On the bright side though, they might miss the first couple of Palace goals.
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Can't help thinking they would be better off getting in a hour early and make themselves heard during the warm up etc
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I like to think of it as a hybrid of twat, tosser and wanker.
Its a travishamockery of an insult
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On the local news earlier protests were mentioned and that fans are being asked to wait outside the ground until 15 minutes after kick off. I am not sure a few soaking wet fans arriving late will have the impact they are hoping for.
They should have it to leave 15 minutes before the end. Many will be anyway.
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Didn't a few (with real emphasis on the word few) try that kind of protest last season were they waited until the 8th minute or something like that and then took there seats? I can vaguely remember it being shit.
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Is it organised by the Astonian People's Front?
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No mate it's the people's front of astoni
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If you are born in Aston does that make your ethnic origin Astonish? If somebody converted to being Astonish, say to marry, would that person's actions be described as Astonishing?
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On the local news earlier protests were mentioned and that fans are being asked to wait outside the ground until 15 minutes after kick off. I am not sure a few soaking wet fans arriving late will have the impact they are hoping for.
So did this happen?
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We arrived only just before KO & there was no sign of a demo anywhere.
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I think it's as simple as this: if you're pissed off and want to protest; don't bother, stay away, the owner wants to sell anyway. If you want to support the team, then go down there and get behind them. They need all the support they can get at VP. I understand the rabid protests at Wycombe and think it probably did us a world of good
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In the Age and Mind of the Keyboard Warrior, Words speak louder than Actions - which don't exist.
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I think it's as simple as this: if you're pissed off and want to protest; don't bother, stay away, the owner wants to sell anyway. If you want to support the team, then go down there and get behind them. They need all the support they can get at VP. I understand the rabid protests at Wycombe and think it probably did us a world of good
I think a lot did stay away last night
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I think it's as simple as this: if you're pissed off and want to protest; don't bother, stay away, the owner wants to sell anyway. If you want to support the team, then go down there and get behind them. They need all the support they can get at VP. I understand the rabid protests at Wycombe and think it probably did us a world of good
I think a lot did stay away last night
Think the weather more than anything kept many away last night.
fuck me was it cold in the North Upper.
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I went to see if there was any protest last night and saw nothing - the only thing was booing the 3 Stooges from Saturday whenever their names were announced.
Funniest moment for me was when I predicted the "he's one of our own" chant for Lescott after he scored - everyone was laughing as they sang it fully aware of the irony
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Joleon Lescott, he swears at his own.
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I was not there because the ancient and time honoured ritual of closing the M6 from the A14 was initiated by the Highways Agency new once weekly measurement of the capacity of Britain's trunk roads to serve as long term linear car parks. I turned round and came home.
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I would like to protest at the lack of adequate street lighting on Trinity Road. In particular, on the park side next to the multi sport pitch things.
I ended up wading through a fucking giant puddle I couldn't see and ruined a new pair of shoes.
Down with this sort of thing.
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I would like to protest at the lack of adequate street lighting on Trinity Road. In particular, on the park side next to the multi sport pitch things.
I ended up wading through a fucking giant puddle I couldn't see and ruined a new pair of shoes.
Down with this sort of thing.
That's where Leeg used to stand for H&V selling, so it's hardly surprising ;)
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Perhaps the wife has sold me a pup and and my Christmas present shoes came via Legion and Gumtree!
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There always has been a big puddle in Trinity Rd by where Legion is shat on by the pigeons. The giant pissoir that stood opposite the Holte was actually higher than Trinity Rd in both directions. The recycled Ansell's used to overflow south to the river and north to a small lake behind the Trinity. After a game when the early leavers ran for a tram or a bus it was like that scene in True Grit where they gallop across the river.
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I forget all about the protest to be honest.