Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Off Topic => Sports Arena => Topic started by: wittonwarrior on December 20, 2015, 07:04:57 PM
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Initial comments on 2015 show. Clare looks like a man in drag from Harry Enfield, no footballers and everyone worried what that Tyson fella is going to say.
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And a member of one direction in the front row
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Bailey Matthews. Admit it you had a tear in your eye.
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Joe Root hasn't been nominated has he? Consistently best UK sportsman this year in my opinion.
Whole awards ceremony is very poor nowadays.
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Has that twat been on yet?
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Bailey Matthews. Admit it you had a tear in your eye.
Sure did. Inspiring.
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Professionals of all sports should be made to watch the clip of Bailey, if they ever have a bad day they still need to give 110% - unfortunately far too few do.
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Bailey Matthews. Admit it you had a tear in your eye.
Brave boy and family
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Well ,Tyson Fury behaved himself impeccabilly. This used to be the sports award ceremony show that was unmissable TV viewing. In its day the whole nation tuned in. Time has moved on as time does.To quote Buddy Holly.. It doesn't matter any more.
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Joe Root hasn't been nominated has he? Consistently best UK sportsman this year in my opinion.
Whole awards ceremony is very poor nowadays.
Root should definitely be nominated but as the BBC don't show cricket it might have a bearing on who they do nominate.
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Well ,Tyson Fury behaved himself impeccabilly. This used to be the sports award ceremony show that was unmissable TV viewing. In its day the whole nation tuned in. Time has moved on as time does.To quote Buddy Holly.. It doesn't matter any more.
I'd agree with that. I think they should put it to bed along with Question of Sport.
Both unmissable in their day. Both unwatchable now.
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Eddie Izzard looks more like a woman than Claire Balding
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James Nesbitt FFS!
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James Nesbitt FFS!
great syrup. hope Rooney is watching
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So looking forward to Tim getting Coach of the Year
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Eddie Izzard looks more like a woman than Claire Balding
and Gabby!
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Well ,Tyson Fury behaved himself impeccabilly. This used to be the sports award ceremony show that was unmissable TV viewing. In its day the whole nation tuned in. Time has moved on as time does.To quote Buddy Holly.. It doesn't matter any more.
Suspect Tyson has had some media advice who have told him to shut it
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FFS Michael O'Neil and not Martin...after the fact that he has been on TV all day today!
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Well for SPOTY it has to be Jessica.
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Having flown all and sundry out to Belfast the BBC obviously decided not to spend any more and have awarded just about everyone of the minor awards to someone from the Province.
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It's a shoe in for Murray I would've thought.
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I was hoping Tyson Fury would win, just to stick two fingers up to the BBC but Andy Murray deservedly wins.
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Eddie Izzard looks more like a woman than Claire Balding
Well at least the winner is more feminine than his own mother.
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Just turned over to see the results, know it's in Belfast so shouldn't have been surprised, but very disappointed to see Eamonn Holmes grinning away in the audience. Anyway, well done Andy Murray.
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I can't complain about Andy Murray winning it - his achievement in the Davis Cup this year was incredible. Not so sure about Kevin Sinfield though - great RL player but this seems like a gesture. I thought Max Whitlock's achievement probably should have been recognised.
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I can't complain about Andy Murray winning it - his achievement in the Davis Cup this year was incredible. Not so sure about Kevin Sinfield though - great RL player but this seems like a gesture. I thought Max Whitlock's achievement probably should have been recognised.
I'm guessing the RL community had a big viral "vote for Sinfield" thing going on.
I genuinely don't know If they did but I can imagine the RL community doing something like this.
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This is confusing, was the Davis Cup efforts rewarded for the team event or individual? It seems to me he's been rewarded twice for the same thing. It's not as if being 3 best and no Grand Slams is really worth rewarding for 2015 against quite a few others who were clearly the best at their sport this year.
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I can't complain about Andy Murray winning it - his achievement in the Davis Cup this year was incredible. Not so sure about Kevin Sinfield though - great RL player but this seems like a gesture. I thought Max Whitlock's achievement probably should have been recognised.
I'm guessing the RL community had a big viral "vote for Sinfield" thing going on.
I genuinely don't know If they did but I can imagine the RL community doing something like this.
Yep I guess you are probably correct there but he also captained his team which won all 3 trophies they entered this year.
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A few things to mention.
Andrew Murray - great tennis player, the best British one by a country mile in my lifetime. His 2015 apart from the Davis Cup victory not his best. I quite understand Team GB Tennis being right up there for the team trophy but how do you then pick Murray out for the individual contribution its either one or the other.
Tyson Fury I think would have won Spoty if he had any kind of intelligence. His mouth lost him the award. He needs a marketing manager more than a coach at this stage.
How did the Republic and England get nominated for team of the year? The competition has lost its imagination. I would have thought Leeds RFL would have been a candidate especially as the BBC still hold the Rugby League on board.
Mo Farah, Jessica Ennis and Hamilton are old hat. Hard to find proper reasons as to why they should be trotted out every year.
Whats for sure Spoty needs a revision. The only way they could go further into decline would be if they got that Kellie Dalglish and the other clown from Channel 5 (the football league show on board).
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A few things to mention.
Andrew Murray - great tennis player, the best British one by a country mile in my lifetime. His 2015 apart from the Davis Cup victory not his best. I quite understand Team GB Tennis being right up there for the team trophy but how do you then pick Murray out for the individual contribution its either one or the other.
No Grand Slams but I think he actually won more games this year than in any other, it's just unfortunate that he has the phenomenon that is Djokovic on the other side of the net at some point in nearly every tournament.
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I can't complain about Andy Murray winning it - his achievement in the Davis Cup this year was incredible. Not so sure about Kevin Sinfield though - great RL player but this seems like a gesture. I thought Max Whitlock's achievement probably should have been recognised.
I'm guessing the RL community had a big viral "vote for Sinfield" thing going on.
I genuinely don't know If they did but I can imagine the RL community doing something like this.
I thought that as well. I don't follow RL, but am aware of just how highly regarded he is, so it's understandable if such a campaign went on.
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Mo Farah, Jessica Ennis and Hamilton are old hat. Hard to find proper reasons as to why they should be trotted out every year.
The achievements of Farah and Ennis were both excellent. For Mo to dominate in tough events where there is such strong competition is an amazing achievement, but I just wonder if the controversy with his coach went against him. Similarly, for Jess Ennis to come back after having a child was another great achievement.
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I wouldn't have voted for him but I thought Murray spoke with great humility on both occasions, and I will forgive him a great deal for his Worthing gag. Self deprecation beyond most celebrities.
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A talented racing driver he may be but every time I see or hear of Lewis Hamilton these days (when he's not wearing a helmet whilst working) the more I think what a complete ass hat, and last night was no different. Ass hat.
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A few things to mention.
Andrew Murray - great tennis player, the best British one by a country mile in my lifetime. His 2015 apart from the Davis Cup victory not his best. I quite understand Team GB Tennis being right up there for the team trophy but how do you then pick Murray out for the individual contribution its either one or the other.
Tyson Fury I think would have won Spoty if he had any kind of intelligence. His mouth lost him the award. He needs a marketing manager more than a coach at this stage.
How did the Republic and England get nominated for team of the year? The competition has lost its imagination. I would have thought Leeds RFL would have been a candidate especially as the BBC still hold the Rugby League on board.
Mo Farah, Jessica Ennis and Hamilton are old hat. Hard to find proper reasons as to why they should be trotted out every year.
Whats for sure Spoty needs a revision. The only way they could go further into decline would be if they got that Kellie Dalglish and the other clown from Channel 5 (the football league show on board).
Murray won the team event almost on his own, as without him they'd have probably lost. So in that respect, he deserved the individual award.
I'd agree the team nominations were rubbish, it looked like they were struggling to find worthy participants.
Farah and Ennis Hill are still winning championship medals, so why wouldn't they be included while still at the top of their respective events, and Hamilton was again world champion, so he should be included whatever you think of him off the track.
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How did the Republic and England get nominated for team of the year?
Sorry but I thought ROI was a different country...yes so how?
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A few things to mention.
Andrew Murray - great tennis player, the best British one by a country mile in my lifetime. His 2015 apart from the Davis Cup victory not his best. I quite understand Team GB Tennis being right up there for the team trophy but how do you then pick Murray out for the individual contribution its either one or the other.
No Grand Slams but I think he actually won more games this year than in any other, it's just unfortunate that he has the phenomenon that is Djokovic on the other side of the net at some point in nearly every tournament.
That's the point though isn't it, he's not the best in the world at his sport and, David Cup team event aside, didn't win on the high profile occasions.
Also can anyone explain why Bradley Wiggins won SPOTY with 1 TdF win but Froome doesn't get a look in with 2? Saying he wasn't the first is a bit like saying Marray wasn't the first to win Wimbledon.
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I can't complain about Andy Murray winning it - his achievement in the Davis Cup this year was incredible. Not so sure about Kevin Sinfield though - great RL player but this seems like a gesture. I thought Max Whitlock's achievement probably should have been recognised.
But, for me, Andy Murray's achievement was in a team event.
Personally, I'd have liked Greg Rutherford, Adam Peaty or Max Whitlock to have won it.
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A few things to mention.
Andrew Murray - great tennis player, the best British one by a country mile in my lifetime. His 2015 apart from the Davis Cup victory not his best. I quite understand Team GB Tennis being right up there for the team trophy but how do you then pick Murray out for the individual contribution its either one or the other.
No Grand Slams but I think he actually won more games this year than in any other, it's just unfortunate that he has the phenomenon that is Djokovic on the other side of the net at some point in nearly every tournament.
That's the point though isn't it, he's not the best in the world at his sport and, David Cup team event aside, didn't win on the high profile occasions.
Also can anyone explain why Bradley Wiggins won SPOTY with 1 TdF win but Froome doesn't get a look in with 2? Saying he wasn't the first is a bit like saying Marray wasn't the first to win Wimbledon.
Murray won every match he played in the Davis Cup and in effect won it single handed. Djokovic and McEnroe are the only ones who can claim such an achievement as far as I know. He's also world number two - something no British player has achieved in the open era and at a time when arguably the three best ever are still playing and winning. Don't get me wrong, I think Jessica Ennis-Hill is both inspirational and stunningly brilliant, but Murray gave up a lot in an individual sport to do the whole Blighty glory bit, so I don't begrudge him. Froome didn't win because he doesn't look like the mid-life crisis era Paul Weller ;-) More seriously, cycling means two tenths of sod all to those who don't wrap themselves in lycra. Outside the Olympics most people don't care. There are a lot of people in the meeja who cycle to work and think it's the epicentre of everything (just look at BBC London for proof) but most people see cyclists outside Hoy and Wiggins as red-light jumping cnuts who deserve being cut up. Froome has no public persona therefore gets few votes. In fact, the success of Sinfield and, before him, Phil Taylor shows just how few people care about the Tour de France.
Although I don't feel the Oirish winners were undeserving, combine the Norn Iron love-in with a sudden desire to include hurling and Gaellic football in the round-ups and you can't help but think the location means more than the achievements. Watch out for the Midlands Today Unsung Hero winning next time it's at the NEC.
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I think Boris Becker can be added to the list but the point is well made.
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Tennis and cycling are on a par in terms of popularity I would say. Cycling is no longer the monority sport you suggest. In fact, if anything, outside Wimbledon nobody in this courtly gives 2 hoots about the sport. Murrays number 3 in the world according to the ATP website by the way.
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Tennis and cycling are on a par in terms of popularity I would say. Cycling is no longer the monority sport you suggest. In fact, if anything, outside Wimbledon nobody in this courtly gives 2 hoots about the sport. Murrays number 3 in the world according to the ATP website by the way.
I think cycling has had it's peak in this country and will now slowly decline in popularity. GB has had unparalleled success in recent times which surely can't continue plus I'd imagine the continuing drug issues will wear people down, they certainly have me. I cannot watch and 100% enjoy a sport when any achievement is frowned upon and raises suspicion amongst so many, which is a real shame.
Tennis is just shit.
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Tennis and cycling are on a par in terms of popularity I would say. Cycling is no longer the monority sport you suggest. In fact, if anything, outside Wimbledon nobody in this courtly gives 2 hoots about the sport. Murrays number 3 in the world according to the ATP website by the way.
I think cycling has had it's peak in this country and will now slowly decline in popularity. GB has had unparalleled success in recent times which surely can't continue plus I'd imagine the continuing drug issues will wear people down, they certainly have me. I cannot watch and 100% enjoy a sport when any achievement is frowned upon and raises suspicion amongst so many, which is a real shame.
Tennis is just shit.
Are you talking about cycling or athletics? Or tennis? Or rugby?
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Yeah cycling is over.
Care to take a look at sales figures for bikes, bike parts, clothing and accessories for the past 12 months and come back and tell us it's over?
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Play fair, "over" is a massive leap from "had it's peak" and "slowly decline in popularity".
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Play fair, "over" is a massive leap from "had it's peak" and "slowly decline in popularity".
Fair enough. Still don't think it's peaked, Rio is around the corner and the UCI Worlds are in London in a few weeks time.
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Yeah cycling is over.
Care to take a look at sales figures for bikes, bike parts, clothing and accessories for the past 12 months and come back and tell us it's over?
It's a bit like fishing though; loads of people do it, few watch it. TV viewers for the Blighty stages of the 2014 Tour peaked at about 4m. The same weekend the British Grand Prix got 11m and the Wimbledon final (without Murray) peaked at over 19m. All three traditionally minority sports but the viewing gulf explains why you need an Olympic Gold and massive profile as an individual to win SPOTY as a cyclist. Wiggins and Hoy transcended the relatively low viewing figures for cycling, Froome probably never will even though way more people cycle than drive Formula 1 cars or play tennis.
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Anybody who thinks cycling is in some sort of decline should come and see the roads in North Yorkshire on a weekend, the Grand Depart has a lot to do with it as people are keen to cycle some or all of the route but there is no way the numbers are declining.
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Yeah cycling is over.
Care to take a look at sales figures for bikes, bike parts, clothing and accessories for the past 12 months and come back and tell us it's over?
It's a bit like fishing though; loads of people do it, few watch it. TV viewers for the Blighty stages of the 2014 Tour peaked at about 4m. The same weekend the British Grand Prix got 11m and the Wimbledon final (without Murray) peaked at over 19m. All three traditionally minority sports but the viewing gulf explains why you need an Olympic Gold and massive profile as an individual to win SPOTY as a cyclist. Wiggins and Hoy transcended the relatively low viewing figures for cycling, Froome probably never will even though way more people cycle than drive Formula 1 cars or play tennis.
Genuine question, were the TDF stages in Yorkshire shown on BBC1 like the Grand Prix and Wimbledon were?
Besides, cycling isn't particularly a great TV sport, bugger all happens for hours in most stages unless they are up the mountains or approaching a finish. I mean I could watch it all day but it's not for everyone is it?
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Anybody who thinks cycling is in some sort of decline should come and see the roads in North Yorkshire on a weekend, the Grand Depart has a lot to do with it as people are keen to cycle some or all of the route but there is no way the numbers are declining.
Surrey is just as bad, you can't move for Lycra louts of a weekend.
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Genuine question, were the TDF stages in Yorkshire shown on BBC1 like the Grand Prix and Wimbledon were?
Besides, cycling isn't particularly a great TV sport, bugger all happens for hours in most stages unless they are up the mountains or approaching a finish. I mean I could watch it all day but it's not for everyone is it?
Tour was on ITV, Wimbledon BBC1, F1 (I think) BBC2.
Like I said, it's not that people don't do it. I cycle to work more often than not and there are loads of others doing the same route. It's more popular as a participation pastime than ever, but in terms of a popularity contest for watching and caring about the competitive sport - rather than how many people are wearing a fairly useless hat, a trades description violating yellow top and a camera to upload footage of themselves being punched while jumping red lights or peddling a bit of a race stage - it's massively minority outside the Olympics. It's like Pool. Loads of people play it, but how many watch it and get bothered by who wins it?
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The TdF intermediate sprint was on Epping High Street in 2014. I went along and the town was literally full. You could hardly walk up and down the pavement there were so many people lining the route.
I've always watched it on tv since the Indurain years - my wife gets very irritated that we have an hour of highlights every single night for three weeks - but I know very few fellow travellers to talk about it with. Even less than NFL...