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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: dave.woodhall on November 29, 2015, 11:41:52 PM

Title: We Press on
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 29, 2015, 11:41:52 PM
http://thebirminghampress.com/2015/11/chance-in-a-million/
Title: Re: We Press on
Post by: villadelph on November 30, 2015, 01:34:07 AM
I thought you'd be angrier.
Title: Re: We Press on
Post by: ChicagoLion on November 30, 2015, 01:54:08 AM
I think apathy has got to all of us.
Title: Re: We Press on
Post by: OzVilla on November 30, 2015, 03:03:18 AM
I think there's an acceptance that this is the year.  Some of us have seen it before and know the signs.

It's been death by a thousand defeats for 5 years now, there's just no real fight left anymore.

No one likes it and the 35k there on Saturday haven't deserted the team and they won't. But there's only so much you can do or say.
Title: Re: We Press on
Post by: Damo70 on November 30, 2015, 08:34:01 AM
I can't remember the last time I was so devastated by a defeat and everything this result points to. I spent the whole of Saturday night feeling like bursting into tears. I actually thought Idrissa had a decent game and was possibly our best player along with Hutton. I totally agree about the 'fannying around'. I was going barmy about it to my son. Lack of confidence on the pitch, nerves in the stands and a wet pitch that was a cock up waiting to happen and we were fannying about with the ball at the back.
Title: Re: We Press on
Post by: Chris Smith on November 30, 2015, 08:42:16 AM
In the pub after the match in an attempt to lift the gloom I suggested we have a sweep on which game our points tally might reach double figures. No takers which suggests that people have no confidence that it will happen at all.
Title: Re: We Press on
Post by: PeterWithe on November 30, 2015, 09:45:46 AM
Daft things was I said to my mate at the end of the first half that, conceding the goal aside, that looked a pretty fluid attacking display.

If we could buy confidence I'd make it our record signing as that's the missing ingredient but, when you are getting beaten every single week its not going to come any time soon.
Title: Re: We Press on
Post by: nick harper on November 30, 2015, 11:03:06 AM
Daft things was I said to my mate at the end of the first half that, conceding the goal aside, that looked a pretty fluid attacking display.

If we could buy confidence I'd make it our record signing as that's the missing ingredient but, when you are getting beaten every single week its not going to come any time soon.

Agree completely. The margins are so fine but if confidence is shot the tension and hesitancy in the team transmits itself to the stands and back again, particularly when the oppostion have the ball around our area.

It does feel we are too open for our position in the league. We were pretty good to watch in the first half but I would rather we got back to basics and aimed for clean sheets as a base to work from. It's possible Garde doesn't think we have the players to do that.
Title: Re: We Press on
Post by: oldhill_avfc on November 30, 2015, 11:07:32 AM
Daft things was I said to my mate at the end of the first half that, conceding the goal aside, that looked a pretty fluid attacking display.

If we could buy confidence I'd make it our record signing as that's the missing ingredient but, when you are getting beaten every single week its not going to come any time soon.

Agree completely. The margins are so fine but if confidence is shot the tension and hesitancy in the team transmits itself to the stands and back again, particularly when the oppostion have the ball around our area.

It does feel we are too open for our position in the league. We were pretty good to watch in the first half but I would rather we got back to basics and aimed for clean sheets as a base to work from. It's possible Garde doesn't think we have the players to do that.

The problem with that is that we certainly don't have the players to play the game/tactics we're currently trying.

We definitely have to go back to basics.  You won't win many if you're conceding three at home to teams like Watford. 

Play on the break with Kozak in the middle of Ayew and Traore. 
Title: Re: We Press on
Post by: oswald funkletrumpet on November 30, 2015, 11:21:58 AM
Daft things was I said to my mate at the end of the first half that, conceding the goal aside, that looked a pretty fluid attacking display.

If we could buy confidence I'd make it our record signing as that's the missing ingredient but, when you are getting beaten every single week its not going to come any time soon.

Agree completely. The margins are so fine but if confidence is shot the tension and hesitancy in the team transmits itself to the stands and back again, particularly when the oppostion have the ball around our area.

It does feel we are too open for our position in the league. We were pretty good to watch in the first half but I would rather we got back to basics and aimed for clean sheets as a base to work from. It's possible Garde doesn't think we have the players to do that.

The problem with that is that we certainly don't have the players to play the game/tactics we're currently trying.

We definitely have to go back to basics.  You won't win many if you're conceding three at home to teams like Watford. 

Play on the break with Kozak in the middle of Ayew and Traore.

I think there is something going on (or not) with Kozak behind the scenes he can't even make the bench
Title: Re: We Press on
Post by: PeterWithe on November 30, 2015, 11:30:46 AM
One of our regular posters who watches the rezzies says he looks unfit and out of his depth there, if he's not putting in the desired effort in training either then he's not going to make the squad. I can t say I've even been impressed by him.
Title: Re: We Press on
Post by: rob_bridge on November 30, 2015, 11:33:30 AM
Another day - 3 shitty goals, 2 of them somewhat fortunate/unfortunate would have left us annoyed/irritated and these things even up over the season.
Alas we are not living in Another Day. We are living in Dark Dark Days of Gloom.

And no-one can say we

2010-11 & 2011-12 we should never ever have been flirting with relegation.
2012-13 was understandable
2013-14 see 2010-11 & 2011-12

Since then 2 Great Cup ties aside we have been in decline. To quote our American cousins 'It Sucks'
Title: Re: We Press on
Post by: oldhill_avfc on November 30, 2015, 11:39:46 AM
One of our regular posters who watches the rezzies says he looks unfit and out of his depth there, if he's not putting in the desired effort in training either then he's not going to make the squad. I can t say I've even been impressed by him.

Fair enough - I saw him against Notts County and thought he looked good, albeit against tiring lower league opposition.

I can only seeing us get results if we play on the break with someone in the middle to hold the ball/flick on for guys with pace - are Gestede & Gabby the only other options?
Title: Re: We Press on
Post by: oswald funkletrumpet on November 30, 2015, 12:18:26 PM
One of our regular posters who watches the rezzies says he looks unfit and out of his depth there, if he's not putting in the desired effort in training either then he's not going to make the squad. I can t say I've even been impressed by him.

Fair enough - I saw him against Notts County and thought he looked good, albeit against tiring lower league opposition.

I can only seeing us get results if we play on the break with someone in the middle to hold the ball/flick on for guys with pace - are Gestede & Gabby the only other options?

Gestede shouldn't be at VP, he is what he is namely a championship who will score with his head if he is running onto the ball, the rest of his play is fucking shit and for a big bloke he doesn't work centre halves enough.

gabby is no answer, please see previous 5 seasons

I would play Adama though the middle with Ayew. I know Adama is young, raw and inexperienced but he offered more in 20 mins on Saturday than Gabby ever will
Title: Re: We Press on
Post by: darren woolley on November 30, 2015, 01:37:04 PM
Good article Dave.
Title: Re: We Press on
Post by: damon loves JT on November 30, 2015, 04:39:23 PM
On the subject of miracles. Tyson Fury believes in the literal truth of every word in the Bible. Our lot don't even believe in themselves, let alone in the resurrection of the dead.
Title: Re: We Press on
Post by: Richard E on November 30, 2015, 04:41:00 PM
On the subject of miracles. Tyson Fury believes in the literal truth of every word in the Bible.

Even the bits that contradict each other?
Title: Re: We Press on
Post by: damon loves JT on November 30, 2015, 04:48:16 PM
On the subject of miracles. Tyson Fury believes in the literal truth of every word in the Bible.

Even the bits that contradict each other?

Especially those bits. Have you listened to him talk? He is mad as a bag of snakes.
Title: Re: We Press on
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 30, 2015, 05:51:29 PM
On the subject of miracles. Tyson Fury believes in the literal truth of every word in the Bible.

Even the bits that contradict each other?

Especially those bits. Have you listened to him talk? He is mad as a bag of snakes.

You'll be telling him that will you?
Title: Re: We Press on
Post by: Exeter 77 on November 30, 2015, 05:56:07 PM
On the subject of miracles. Tyson Fury believes in the literal truth of every word in the Bible.

Even the bits that contradict each other?

Especially those bits. Have you listened to him talk? He is mad as a bag of snakes.

You'll be telling him that will you?
Sorry Damon but that is something I would pay to watch. Maybe you could write the questions for someone else to ask - Eamonn Holmes perhaps.
Title: Re: We Press on
Post by: TopDeck113 on November 30, 2015, 06:15:04 PM
At what point do you title your Monday thread "On the Edge of the Press-ipice"?
Title: Re: We Press on
Post by: damon loves JT on November 30, 2015, 06:22:01 PM
On the subject of miracles. Tyson Fury believes in the literal truth of every word in the Bible.

Even the bits that contradict each other?

Especially those bits. Have you listened to him talk? He is mad as a bag of snakes.

You'll be telling him that will you?

There is nothing more futile than telling a mad person that they're mad. They're always the last person to believe it.
Title: Re: We Press on
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 30, 2015, 06:22:25 PM
At what point do you title your Monday thread "On the Edge of the Press-ipice"?

Next week, now you've said it. I have no shame.
Title: Re: We Press on
Post by: levico on November 30, 2015, 06:23:37 PM
At what point do you title your Monday thread "On the Edge of the Press-ipice"?

Vg. I'd wait until the New Tear if I were Dave. You don't want to peak too soon.
Title: Re: We Press on
Post by: brian green on November 30, 2015, 06:29:01 PM
I think you should know that Damon would write a script for Robbie Savage before he would write one for Eammon Holmes.
Title: Re: We Press on
Post by: saunders_heroes on November 30, 2015, 06:37:50 PM
On the subject of miracles. Tyson Fury believes in the literal truth of every word in the Bible.

Even the bits that contradict each other?

Especially those bits. Have you listened to him talk? He is mad as a bag of snakes.

His dad is in prison doing 11 years for gouging out another man's eye.
What a lovely family!
Title: Re: We Press on
Post by: brian green on November 30, 2015, 06:50:53 PM
My other son says Tyson Fury has the worst singing voice he has ever heard and he has produced BGT and X Factor.
Title: Re: We Press on
Post by: Exeter 77 on November 30, 2015, 07:04:30 PM
I think you should know that Damon would write a script for Robbie Savage before he would write one for Eammon Holmes.
I knew Mr. Holmes was disliked in journalistic circles but didn't realise he was THAT disliked! I suggested him as someone who I'd like to see get pulverised but Savage would be equally funny.
Title: Re: We Press on
Post by: brian green on November 30, 2015, 07:22:08 PM
Damon's interviews with Les Batters by are classics. Journalistic televisual comedic high art.
Title: Re: We Press on
Post by: Villa in Denmark on November 30, 2015, 09:28:01 PM
On the subject of miracles. Tyson Fury believes in the literal truth of every word in the Bible.

Even the bits that contradict each other?

Especially those bits. Have you listened to him talk? He is mad as a bag of snakes.

You'll be telling him that will you?
Sorry Damon but that is something I would pay to watch. Maybe you could write the questions for someone else to ask - Eamonn Holmes perhaps.

How about everyone's other favourite Irish superstar?
Title: Re: We Press on
Post by: not3bad on December 01, 2015, 10:57:36 AM
Never mind, we're away to Southampton next.  That didn't go too badly last season.
Title: Re: We Press on
Post by: auntiesledd on December 01, 2015, 11:08:17 AM
Another day - 3 shitty goals, 2 of them somewhat fortunate/unfortunate would have left us annoyed/irritated and these things even up over the season.
Alas we are not living in Another Day. We are living in Dark Dark Days of Gloom.

And no-one can say we

2010-11 & 2011-12 we should never ever have been flirting with relegation.
2012-13 was understandable
2013-14 see 2010-11 & 2011-12

Since then 2 Great Cup ties aside we have been in decline. To quote our American cousins 'It Sucks'

Or to quote Vince Lombardi: 'Winning is (a) habit. Unfortunately so is losing'.   :(
Title: Re: We Press on
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on December 01, 2015, 12:41:00 PM
At what point do you title your Monday thread "On the Edge of the Press-ipice"?

Next week, now you've said it. I have no shame.

Not holding out much hope for us at The New Dell then?!
Title: Re: We Press on
Post by: PeterWithe on December 01, 2015, 01:22:01 PM
Never mind, we're away to Southampton next.  That didn't go too badly last season.

We were pretty comfortable for the first ten minutes..
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