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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: pauliewalnuts on November 24, 2015, 10:25:00 PM

Title: Now, this is a tricky looking job.
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 24, 2015, 10:25:00 PM
https://www.linkedin.com/jobs2/view/86753715?trk=vsrp_jobs_res_name&trkInfo=VSRPsearchId%3A1377261291448398133536%2CVSRPtargetId%3A86753715%2CVSRPcmpt%3Aprimary

Basically, "how to make us look good".

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The role requires a strong commercial focus to develop the Club’s CRM function and drive sales across ticketing, hospitality, retail and partnerships through a clear creative strategy. The successful applicant will have experience of managing a consumer brand and growing key performance metrics, through a disciplined measurement and review process.

Day one.

Strategy to drive ticket sales: "win some fucking games", "stop being so SHIT", "start to succeed in distinguishing arse from elbow".
Title: Re: Now, this is a tricky looking job.
Post by: The Left Side on November 24, 2015, 10:29:17 PM
Start by doing the basics right, no more stupid PR mess-ups such as the welcome Remy, badge-kissing snake episode and Tom Cleverly image. No more obvious messages about how the team cannot wait for Saturday after our latest defeat and then we are heading in the right direction.
Title: Re: Now, this is a tricky looking job.
Post by: adrenachrome on November 24, 2015, 10:32:22 PM
https://www.linkedin.com/jobs2/view/86753715?trk=vsrp_jobs_res_name&trkInfo=VSRPsearchId%3A1377261291448398133536%2CVSRPtargetId%3A86753715%2CVSRPcmpt%3Aprimary (https://www.linkedin.com/jobs2/view/86753715?trk=vsrp_jobs_res_name&trkInfo=VSRPsearchId%3A1377261291448398133536%2CVSRPtargetId%3A86753715%2CVSRPcmpt%3Aprimary)

Basically, "how to make us look good".

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The role requires a strong commercial focus to develop the Club’s CRM function and drive sales across ticketing, hospitality, retail and partnerships through a clear creative strategy. The successful applicant will have experience of managing a consumer brand and growing key performance metrics, through a disciplined measurement and review process.

Day one.

Strategy to drive ticket sales: "win some fucking games", "stop being so SHIT", "start to succeed in distinguishing arse from elbow".

A rhetorical question by its nature, but  how is the "Head of Marketing and Brand" supposed to achieve those aims, which are clearly beyond his "aegis" and also de facto ultra vires?
Title: Re: Now, this is a tricky looking job.
Post by: CT Villan on November 24, 2015, 10:37:48 PM
"The successful applicant will have experience of managing a Championship brand and growing key performance metrics, through a disciplined measurement and review process."

There, I fixed it for them.
Title: Re: Now, this is a tricky looking job.
Post by: Des Little on November 24, 2015, 10:51:01 PM
Must not have a fear of heights, not own a passport and be able to travel to Rotherham on a Tuesday night.
Title: Re: Now, this is a tricky looking job.
Post by: BC54 VFC on November 24, 2015, 10:57:40 PM
The unsuccessful applicants will not receive the courtesy of an acknowledgement of their application.
Title: Re: Now, this is a tricky looking job.
Post by: Billy Walker on November 24, 2015, 10:58:11 PM
"Aston Villa Football Club, established in 1874, was one of the founders of the football league in 1888 and a founding member of the Premier League in 1992. Aston Villa’s matches were watched by more than 130 million people last season and it the Club has millions of followers around the world..."

I've said before and I'll say it again, our unique selling point, the cornerstone of our brand, should be that we are the creators of league football.  William McGregor could be marketed as the W.G. Grace of the game and his image could be used in so many commercial ways if the Club was savvy enough.  (Obviously this would be more easily achieved if it was done on the back of purposeful, strategic investment and successful team performance.) 

It really does get on my goat (is that the right term?), to put it mildly, that the Club seems to gloss over all this and lump us in with the other eleven clubs, when we actually came up with the whole idea. I just can't get my head around it - shout it from the roof tops, let every know, even if they don't want to know.
Title: Re: Now, this is a tricky looking job.
Post by: German James on November 24, 2015, 11:52:52 PM
"Aston Villa Football Club, established in 1874, was one of the founders of the football league in 1888 and a founding member of the Premier League in 1992. Aston Villa’s matches were watched by more than 130 million people last season and it the Club has millions of followers around the world..."

I've said before and I'll say it again, our unique selling point, the cornerstone of our brand, should be that we are the creators of league football.  William McGregor could be marketed as the W.G. Grace of the game and his image could be used in so many commercial ways if the Club was savvy enough.  (Obviously this would be more easily achieved if it was done on the back of purposeful, strategic investment and successful team performance.) 

It really does get on my goat (is that the right term?), to put it mildly, that the Club seems to gloss over all this and lump us in with the other eleven clubs, when we actually came up with the whole idea. I just can't get my head around it - shout it from the roof tops, let every know, even if they don't want to know.

Apart from us, I don't think anyone cares anymore.
Title: Re: Now, this is a tricky looking job.
Post by: KRS on November 25, 2015, 03:19:02 AM
May be the successful candidate can push for getting rid of this crap badge we have now.
Title: Re: Now, this is a tricky looking job.
Post by: mr underhill on November 25, 2015, 05:13:12 AM
that's just the sort of corporate speak that makes me want to cut off my own feet and eat them.
Title: Re: Now, this is a tricky looking job.
Post by: Nelly on November 25, 2015, 12:37:00 PM
"Aston Villa Football Club, established in 1874, was one of the founders of the football league in 1888 and a founding member of the Premier League in 1992. Aston Villa’s matches were watched by more than 130 million people last season and it the Club has millions of followers around the world..."

I've said before and I'll say it again, our unique selling point, the cornerstone of our brand, should be that we are the creators of league football.  William McGregor could be marketed as the W.G. Grace of the game and his image could be used in so many commercial ways if the Club was savvy enough.  (Obviously this would be more easily achieved if it was done on the back of purposeful, strategic investment and successful team performance.) 

It really does get on my goat (is that the right term?), to put it mildly, that the Club seems to gloss over all this and lump us in with the other eleven clubs, when we actually came up with the whole idea. I just can't get my head around it - shout it from the roof tops, let every know, even if they don't want to know.

Apart from us, I don't think anyone cares anymore.

I was talking to a Coventry/Man U ( I know...) fan the other day and he was astounded to know Villa started the world's first Football League. We should bear our heritage more proudly I think.
Title: Re: Now, this is a tricky looking job.
Post by: joe_c on November 25, 2015, 12:52:02 PM
The Job Description reads like this:

Title: Re: Now, this is a tricky looking job.
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on November 25, 2015, 12:53:26 PM
One consideration should be to stop posting images of how our players are getting the better of or battling with opposition players to social media during football matches that you being thrashed in.
Title: Re: Now, this is a tricky looking job.
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on November 25, 2015, 12:54:22 PM
If I had the job, my first meeting about a marketing strategy would be with the manager, and I'd tell him to win some matches. The marketing would then be a much easier job.
Title: Re: Now, this is a tricky looking job.
Post by: eamonn on November 25, 2015, 01:16:35 PM
Who is the outgoing Head of Marketing? Approving yet another image with the legend ''Fight like lions'' must have made them question their honour and integrity with an inevitable conclusion.
Title: Re: Now, this is a tricky looking job.
Post by: itbrvilla on November 25, 2015, 01:27:58 PM
"Aston Villa Football Club, established in 1874, was one of the founders of the football league in 1888 and a founding member of the Premier League in 1992. Aston Villa’s matches were watched by more than 130 million people last season and it the Club has millions of followers around the world..."

I've said before and I'll say it again, our unique selling point, the cornerstone of our brand, should be that we are the creators of league football.  William McGregor could be marketed as the W.G. Grace of the game and his image could be used in so many commercial ways if the Club was savvy enough.  (Obviously this would be more easily achieved if it was done on the back of purposeful, strategic investment and successful team performance.) 

It really does get on my goat (is that the right term?), to put it mildly, that the Club seems to gloss over all this and lump us in with the other eleven clubs, when we actually came up with the whole idea. I just can't get my head around it - shout it from the roof tops, let every know, even if they don't want to know.
Yeah but,did he invent the Premiership!
Title: Re: Now, this is a tricky looking job.
Post by: Billy Walker on November 25, 2015, 02:41:49 PM
"Aston Villa Football Club, established in 1874, was one of the founders of the football league in 1888 and a founding member of the Premier League in 1992. Aston Villa’s matches were watched by more than 130 million people last season and it the Club has millions of followers around the world..."

I've said before and I'll say it again, our unique selling point, the cornerstone of our brand, should be that we are the creators of league football.  William McGregor could be marketed as the W.G. Grace of the game and his image could be used in so many commercial ways if the Club was savvy enough.  (Obviously this would be more easily achieved if it was done on the back of purposeful, strategic investment and successful team performance.) 

It really does get on my goat (is that the right term?), to put it mildly, that the Club seems to gloss over all this and lump us in with the other eleven clubs, when we actually came up with the whole idea. I just can't get my head around it - shout it from the roof tops, let every know, even if they don't want to know.

Apart from us, I don't think anyone cares anymore.

You're right but that is the whole point of marketing and branding - you just get the message out there until it is the first thing people associate with Villa so that they have no choice but to "care".  I couldn't care less that man utd seem to think their stadium is "The Theatre of Dreams" but over the last fifteen to twenty years I have been bombarded by so many references to it that now it is a name that has become synonymous with the club and its brand image.  The thing is "theatre of dreams" as a phrase means bugger all. It's not based on fact, it's just a throwaway comment from a third-rate book by Bobby Charlton.  Fair play to the P.R. and money men behind man utd because they had enough vision and foresight to see its potential.

A concerted, focused effort of making McGregor the cornerstone of the Club brand could, in the long term,  add value to Villa but this would all need to be done as part of a huge overall strategy to get us competing again at the right end of the table.  Lerner should have been onto this as soon as he took over the club...working on the brand right now when we are in the position we are now in is, as Paulie  suggests at the top of the thread, the very definition of a "hard sell". 

Title: Re: Now, this is a tricky looking job.
Post by: Olof's Beard on November 25, 2015, 03:10:46 PM
Typo in the first paragraph. Sack the board.
Title: Re: Now, this is a tricky looking job.
Post by: DeKuip on November 25, 2015, 03:46:07 PM
There are already too many marketing people ruining football.
It's just a bloody game.

(I didn't need a degree course to come up with/nick that slogan either).
Title: Re: Now, this is a tricky looking job.
Post by: itbrvilla on November 25, 2015, 03:53:37 PM
One consideration should be to stop posting images of how our players are getting the better of or battling with opposition players to social media during football matches that you being thrashed in.
That pisses me right off.  Are they Twats or something? What I'd give for the ****** to be battling.
Title: Re: Now, this is a tricky looking job.
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on November 25, 2015, 03:57:44 PM
Maybe we should let Randy draw a new badge for us.
Title: Re: Now, this is a tricky looking job.
Post by: cheltenhamlion on November 25, 2015, 06:01:03 PM
Who is the outgoing Head of Marketing? Approving yet another image with the legend ''Fight like lions'' must have made them question their honour and integrity with an inevitable conclusion.

I know that Russell went a few weeks ago.
Title: Re: Now, this is a tricky looking job.
Post by: Ad@m on November 25, 2015, 06:05:21 PM
Did anyone see that Alex Ferguson documentary?  They were attempting to make a point about how he built the Manchester United business as well as the football team, when in reality what he did do was build an incredibly successful football team which then meant other people could build the business off the back of it.

It really isn't rocket science.
Title: Re: Now, this is a tricky looking job.
Post by: amfy on November 25, 2015, 06:50:55 PM
One consideration should be to stop posting images of how our players are getting the better of or battling with opposition players to social media during football matches that you being thrashed in.

It's worse than that for me. For some reason those picture turn up on my timeline at random points during the following day.
Title: Re: Now, this is a tricky looking job.
Post by: eamonn on November 25, 2015, 06:56:21 PM
Who is the outgoing Head of Marketing? Approving yet another image with the legend ''Fight like lions'' must have made them question their honour and integrity with an inevitable conclusion.

I know that Russell went a few weeks ago.

Robin, the CFO? Maybe Risso, VillaInDenmark and all the other qualified finance heads could go apply for their, er, dream job.
Title: Re: Now, this is a tricky looking job.
Post by: Legion on November 25, 2015, 07:18:04 PM
Who is the outgoing Head of Marketing? Approving yet another image with the legend ''Fight like lions'' must have made them question their honour and integrity with an inevitable conclusion.

I know that Russell went a few weeks ago.

Oh, bugger. I had a horrible feeling that something was up.
Title: Re: Now, this is a tricky looking job.
Post by: ez on November 25, 2015, 09:51:54 PM
One consideration should be to stop posting images of how our players are getting the better of or battling with opposition players to social media during football matches that you being thrashed in.

Or a few days before saying how determined and up for the fight they are when nothing of the sort happens on matchday.
Title: Re: Now, this is a tricky looking job.
Post by: OCD on November 25, 2015, 10:39:16 PM
"Aston Villa Football Club, established in 1874, was one of the founders of the football league in 1888 and a founding member of the Premier League in 1992. Aston Villa’s matches were watched by more than 130 million people last season and it the Club has millions of followers around the world..."

I've said before and I'll say it again, our unique selling point, the cornerstone of our brand, should be that we are the creators of league football.  William McGregor could be marketed as the W.G. Grace of the game and his image could be used in so many commercial ways if the Club was savvy enough.  (Obviously this would be more easily achieved if it was done on the back of purposeful, strategic investment and successful team performance.) 

It really does get on my goat (is that the right term?), to put it mildly, that the Club seems to gloss over all this and lump us in with the other eleven clubs, when we actually came up with the whole idea. I just can't get my head around it - shout it from the roof tops, let every know, even if they don't want to know.

Let's hope the successful candidate can see such things.
Title: Re: Now, this is a tricky looking job.
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 25, 2015, 10:44:39 PM
Who is the outgoing Head of Marketing? Approving yet another image with the legend ''Fight like lions'' must have made them question their honour and integrity with an inevitable conclusion.

I know that Russell went a few weeks ago.

Oh, bugger. I had a horrible feeling that something was up.
Who is the outgoing Head of Marketing? Approving yet another image with the legend ''Fight like lions'' must have made them question their honour and integrity with an inevitable conclusion.

I know that Russell went a few weeks ago.

Robin, the CFO? Maybe Risso, VillaInDenmark and all the other qualified finance heads could go apply for their, er, dream job.

Jones.
Title: Re: Now, this is a tricky looking job.
Post by: Salsa Party Animal on November 25, 2015, 11:19:29 PM
So what happens to Russell ?
Title: Re: Now, this is a tricky looking job.
Post by: Villa in Denmark on November 26, 2015, 12:20:09 AM
Who is the outgoing Head of Marketing? Approving yet another image with the legend ''Fight like lions'' must have made them question their honour and integrity with an inevitable conclusion.

I know that Russell went a few weeks ago.

Robin, the CFO? Maybe Risso, VillaInDenmark and all the other qualified finance heads could go apply for their, er, dream job.

I'd just like to point out I'm not a finance bod, just a humble engineer who got bogged down in reading balance sheets in my last job in the UK.

Now I put these skills to good use by pointing out to those that control purse strings that they're generally talking out of their arses and the savings they think they're making will be 10 times more expensive than doing the job properly to start with.
Title: Re: Now, this is a tricky looking job.
Post by: Villa in Denmark on November 26, 2015, 12:21:00 AM
So what happens to Russell ?

He's got a new job, but it's nothing to Crowe about.
Title: Re: Now, this is a tricky looking job.
Post by: mr underhill on November 26, 2015, 09:56:19 AM
honestly? I thought he was a real gladiator
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