Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Legion on November 24, 2015, 06:36:41 PM
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Information for Saturday (http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~5162738,00.html)
Aston Villa will be increasing the level of security for forthcoming games, following the recent attacks in Paris - starting with the game against Watford on Saturday.
Changes will include but not be limited to:
Spot checks with metal detectors in the turnstile area
All bags will be searched so please don't bring one unless absolutely necessary
Spot checks on vehicles
To help with higher levels of security all fans are asked to:
ARRIVE NO LATER THAN 30 MINUTES BEFORE KICK OFF (2.30 PM FOR WATFORD)
IF ARRIVING BY CAR AND USING THE HOLTE OR NORTH STAND CAR PARKS, BRING YOUR CAR PARK PASS
APPROACH THE TURNSTILES WITH COATS, JACKETS ETC UNFASTENED AND OPEN
Your help is vital in helping prevent any further attacks.
Thank you.
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Sad but necessary.
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I am not opening my coat until I am under cover! Due to be pissing down on Saturday. And windy. And cold!
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It's not unusual for me to go around with my etc unzipped.
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I usually like to have my coat unfastened and open when crossing Aston Park...you never know when an opportunity might arise.
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To be fair there is more chance of ISIS launching an attack at Villa Park than there is our forward line .
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and don't think Aston Villa V Watford will be high profile game enough for them. Have ISIS ever attacked in UK yet. Just asking.
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I can't believe what I'm reading
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I'm working in the City Centre until 14:15 so no way i'll make it before 14:30.
What's going to happen then because if they refuse entry after 14:30 then I might as well stay at work.
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I'm working in the City Centre until 14:15 so no way i'll make it before 14:30.
What's going to happen then because if they refuse entry after 14:30 then I might as well stay at work.
They'll let you in, it's just recommending/asking people to get there for 14:30 if they can.
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I'm working in the City Centre until 14:15 so no way i'll make it before 14:30.
What's going to happen then because if they refuse entry after 14:30 then I might as well stay at work.
Don't think they are saying they will refuse entry, just that it will inevitably take longer for each person to gain entry to the ground, thus there will be queues forming. These can be mitigated by persons arriving earlier so that there are not queues outside at kick off time.
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Avoid crowded places.
I'm going to stay in Watford's half with a tin hat on.
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and don't think Aston Villa V Watford will be high profile game enough for them. Have ISIS ever attacked in UK yet. Just asking.
A premier league match will probably be seen as high profile enough. Which means we should be safer next season.
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and don't think Aston Villa V Watford will be high profile game enough for them. Have ISIS ever attacked in UK yet. Just asking.
Hands up who'd heard of The Eagles of Death Metal this time two weeks ago.
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and don't think Aston Villa V Watford will be high profile game enough for them. Have ISIS ever attacked in UK yet. Just asking.
Hands up who'd heard of The Eagles of Death Metal this time two weeks ago.
I saw them at Glastonbury Festival in 2009.
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and don't think Aston Villa V Watford will be high profile game enough for them. Have ISIS ever attacked in UK yet. Just asking.
Hands up who'd heard of The Eagles of Death Metal this time two weeks ago.
Errrr - me...
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and don't think Aston Villa V Watford will be high profile game enough for them. Have ISIS ever attacked in UK yet. Just asking.
Hands up who'd heard of The Eagles of Death Metal this time two weeks ago.
Errrr - me...
Not quite the point I was making. I will rephrase. If a relatively obscure band and their 1,500 fans can present a target then surely a relatively famous team and their 30,000 fans present a more high profile target.
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and don't think Aston Villa V Watford will be high profile game enough for them. Have ISIS ever attacked in UK yet. Just asking.
Hands up who'd heard of The Eagles of Death Metal this time two weeks ago.
Errrr - me...
Not quite the point I was making. I will rephrase. If a relatively obscure band and their 1,500 fans can present a target then surely a relatively famous team and their 30,000 fans present a more high profile target.
Or maybe a modest congregation of people would only warrant limited security and caution and thus poses an easier target. They tend to hit when our guard is down rather than when we are all on high alert. They take advantage of complacency. That said, and sadly, if they want to do some damage its almost impossible to stop them irrespective of the attention we might be paying.
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and don't think Aston Villa V Watford will be high profile game enough for them. Have ISIS ever attacked in UK yet. Just asking.
People sat having a drink, eating pizza, watching a band are they high profile enough? They like 'soft' targets.
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Sorry to say but, there are not too many more soft targets than our team at the moment!!
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If anything does happen just pelt them with the hot dogs and burgers from the van on trinity road opposite the Holte
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As long as they don't attempt the same security measures they put in place for the Rugby World Cup games at VP - I've never seen such a shambles!
That said, if we lose on Saturday I might wish I had been stopped from getting in to the ground!
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Yeah they'd rather die than have greasy pork thrown at them.
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and don't think Aston Villa V Watford will be high profile game enough for them. Have ISIS ever attacked in UK yet. Just asking.
Hands up who'd heard of The Eagles of Death Metal this time two weeks ago.
Errrr - me...
Not quite the point I was making. I will rephrase. If a relatively obscure band and their 1,500 fans can present a target then surely a relatively famous team and their 30,000 fans present a more high profile target.
Rather than a band or a restaurant, the target was Paris. Lyon, for example, wouldn't have had quite as big an impact on the wider world. Likewise, Birmingham would represent far less bang for the terrorists' buck, if you'll excuse the pun, than London.
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a person wearing a suicide belt that wants to commit suicide and kill a few others at a premier league ground doesnt need to get inside the stadium
Now that the club has publicly said get there for half 2 ,he or she can just join the big queues at 2.30 ,,,,,and detonate the belt when near the front
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a person wearing a suicide belt that wants to commit suicide and kill a few others at a premier league ground doesnt need to get inside the stadium
Now that the club has publicly said get there for half 2 ,he or she can just join the big queues at 2.30 ,,,,,and detonate the belt when near the front
The club probably assumes a lot of people will ignore the 2.30 request so rather than the current state where there are huge queues 10 minutes before kick off they're probably expecting this request will spread the crowd out over the hour before kick off and therefore reduce the queues.
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and don't think Aston Villa V Watford will be high profile game enough for them. Have ISIS ever attacked in UK yet. Just asking.
Hands up who'd heard of The Eagles of Death Metal this time two weeks ago.
I had heard of them before many of the players we signed in the summer
I saw them at Glastonbury Festival in 2009.
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a person wearing a suicide belt that wants to commit suicide and kill a few others at a premier league ground doesnt need to get inside the stadium
Now that the club has publicly said get there for half 2 ,he or she can just join the big queues at 2.30 ,,,,,and detonate the belt when near the front
The club probably assumes a lot of people will ignore the 2.30 request so rather than the current state where there are huge queues 10 minutes before kick off they're probably expecting this request will spread the crowd out over the hour before kick off and therefore reduce the queues.
It's actually to reduce the attendance. They don't want to sell us tickets.
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and don't think Aston Villa V Watford will be high profile game enough for them. Have ISIS ever attacked in UK yet. Just asking.
Hands up who'd heard of The Eagles of Death Metal this time two weeks ago.
I had, because.......
a) They have a very silly name
b) due to a) I listened to their album and discovered that they're not very good
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I wonder if the stewards at sport/entertainment events are now being paid extra money because the added perceived risk in their jobs ?
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Have ISIS ever attacked in UK yet. Just asking.
Yes, last April they attacked at Barnes Bridge and beat Goldie by three lengths
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I hope that Gestede wandering offside will not be subject to any false flags.
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It'd be easy to spot any member of ISIS near the stadium; they'd be the only ones without that haunted look of dread in their eyes.
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Sorry to be the one to tell you, but none of this is even slightly amusing
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Have ISIS ever attacked in UK yet. Just asking.
Yes, last April they attacked at Barnes Bridge and beat Goldie by three lengths
very good Roge :)
UTV
The Doc
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Sorry to be the one to tell you, but none of this is even slightly amusing
If you don't laugh you are letting the terrorists win.
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Sorry to be the one to tell you, but none of this is even slightly amusing
If you don't laugh you are letting the terrorists win.
Which is why I'm convinced Michael Mcintyre is an ISIS recruit.
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Sorry to be the one to tell you, but none of this is even slightly amusing
#sadnessinhiseyes
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Sorry to be the one to tell you, but none of this is even slightly amusing
Taking the piss is the best weapon us ordinary people have. It's called the Great British Sense Of Humour. Something used in WWII to great effect at keeping up morale.
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It's nothing like that, in my opinion.
Best leave it there I think
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I lost 40% of my blood, a colleague, a relationship, my career and ten years of my life to PTSD but I'm happy to poke fun at the nutters.
I hope most people will take the security measures seriously on the day though.
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It has always amazed me during the 30 years with the IRA or now with these murderous fuckers that a football stadium has never been targeted - if the objective is to kill as many as possible then you would think it logical to be a target
I still feel our greatest asset in staving off volumes of guns and bombs is the 26 miles of sea between us and Europe - a lot easier to drive over an unmanned border with a car full of weapons / bombs than it is to smuggle a significant amount of items across the sea
Maybe not abroad but maybe our own radicalised people realise they would have the chance of killing innocent muslims at home - obviously Isis abroad don't give a shit who they kill but if our own felt that they could not be sure they could hurt someone they know may alter their motivation in the UK - especially in high muslim populated areas like Birmingham, Bradford etc
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I used to go to football matches carrying a thermos and wearing a balaclava. I guess I'd get stopped by the police a mile from the ground now.
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Avoid crowded places.
I'm going to stay in Watford's half with a tin hat on.
You won't need the tin hat PW!
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It has always amazed me during the 30 years with the IRA or now with these murderous fuckers that a football stadium has never been targeted - if the objective is to kill as many as possible then you would think it logical to be a target
I still feel our greatest asset in staving off volumes of guns and bombs is the 26 miles of sea between us and Europe - a lot easier to drive over an unmanned border with a car full of weapons / bombs than it is to smuggle a significant amount of items across the sea
Maybe not abroad but maybe our own radicalised people realise they would have the chance of killing innocent muslims at home - obviously Isis abroad don't give a shit who they kill but if our own felt that they could not be sure they could hurt someone they know may alter their motivation in the UK - especially in high muslim populated areas like Birmingham, Bradford etc
i dont know mate ,,,,,it was french or belgian radicals that struck in paris ,,,,,,,a tunisian in tunisia ,,,cockneys on 7/7 and americans on 9/11,,, they will know that not than many local muslims attend football matches
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Sorry to be the one to tell you, but none of this is even slightly amusing
#sadnessinhiseyes
;D
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a person wearing a suicide belt that wants to commit suicide and kill a few others at a premier league ground doesnt need to get inside the stadium
Now that the club has publicly said get there for half 2 ,he or she can just join the big queues at 2.30 ,,,,,and detonate the belt when near the front
The club probably assumes a lot of people will ignore the 2.30 request so rather than the current state where there are huge queues 10 minutes before kick off they're probably expecting this request will spread the crowd out over the hour before kick off and therefore reduce the queues.
It's actually to reduce the attendance. They don't want to sell us tickets.
well they are clearly attempting to get people who already have them to return them so they can manage the security threat more efficiently
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What a load of shite. 7/7 weren't cockneys. 9/11 weren't Americans.
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It has always amazed me during the 30 years with the IRA or now with these murderous fuckers that a football stadium has never been targeted - if the objective is to kill as many as possible then you would think it logical to be a target
I still feel our greatest asset in staving off volumes of guns and bombs is the 26 miles of sea between us and Europe - a lot easier to drive over an unmanned border with a car full of weapons / bombs than it is to smuggle a significant amount of items across the sea
Maybe not abroad but maybe our own radicalised people realise they would have the chance of killing innocent muslims at home - obviously Isis abroad don't give a shit who they kill but if our own felt that they could not be sure they could hurt someone they know may alter their motivation in the UK - especially in high muslim populated areas like Birmingham, Bradford etc
i dont know mate ,,,,,it was french or belgian radicals that struck in paris ,,,,,,,a tunisian in tunisia ,,,cockneys on 7/7 and americans on 9/11,,, they will know that not than many local muslims attend football matches
I would like to hear more about the point in bold.
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7/7 weren't cockneys.
If you strain your ears really really hard you can hear the sound of Bow bells from Dewsbury.
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It has always amazed me during the 30 years with the IRA or now with these murderous fuckers that a football stadium has never been targeted - if the objective is to kill as many as possible then you would think it logical to be a target
I still feel our greatest asset in staving off volumes of guns and bombs is the 26 miles of sea between us and Europe - a lot easier to drive over an unmanned border with a car full of weapons / bombs than it is to smuggle a significant amount of items across the sea
Maybe not abroad but maybe our own radicalised people realise they would have the chance of killing innocent muslims at home - obviously Isis abroad don't give a shit who they kill but if our own felt that they could not be sure they could hurt someone they know may alter their motivation in the UK - especially in high muslim populated areas like Birmingham, Bradford etc
i dont know mate ,,,,,it was french or belgian radicals that struck in paris ,,,,,,,a tunisian in tunisia ,,,cockneys on 7/7 and americans on 9/11,,, they will know that not than many local muslims attend football matches
I would like to hear more about the point in bold.
CIA.
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i dont know mate ,,,,,it was french or belgian radicals that struck in paris ,,,,,,,a tunisian in tunisia ,,,cockneys on 7/7 and americans on 9/11,,, they will know that not than many local muslims attend football matches
I would like to hear more about the point in bold.
So would I but sadly Dan doesn't post on here anymore...
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7/7 weren't cockneys.
If you strain your ears really really hard you can hear the sound of Bow bells from Dewsbury.
And Beeston. You can't move at Elland Road without bumping into a Pearly King.
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What a load of shite. 7/7 weren't cockneys. 9/11 weren't Americans.
7/7 were british muslims then and the pilots on 9/11 were trained in america
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What a load of shite. 7/7 weren't cockneys. 9/11 weren't Americans.
7/7 were british muslims then and the pilots on 9/11 were trained in america
So not Cockneys or Americans then?
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What a load of shite. 7/7 weren't cockneys. 9/11 weren't Americans.
7/7 were british muslims then and the pilots on 9/11 were trained in america
Which is massively different to the shite you first claimed.
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What a load of shite. 7/7 weren't cockneys. 9/11 weren't Americans.
7/7 were british muslims then and the pilots on 9/11 were trained in america
So not Cockneys or Americans then?
your online ,,,,,,,,,,,google it ,,,,,, they were leeds fans
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What a load of shite. 7/7 weren't cockneys. 9/11 weren't Americans.
7/7 were british muslims then and the pilots on 9/11 were trained in america
Which is massively different to the shite you first claimed.
lets not get penikity pete
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What a load of shite. 7/7 weren't cockneys. 9/11 weren't Americans.
7/7 were british muslims then and the pilots on 9/11 were trained in america
So not Cockneys or Americans then?
your online ,,,,,,,,,,,google it ,,,,,, they were leeds fans
Who? The Cockneys, the one's who flew into the Twin Towers or the CIA?
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What a load of shite. 7/7 weren't cockneys. 9/11 weren't Americans.
7/7 were british muslims then and the pilots on 9/11 were trained in america
Which is massively different to the shite you first claimed.
lets not get penikity pete
Yeah let's not allow facts to get in the way.
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What a load of shite. 7/7 weren't cockneys. 9/11 weren't Americans.
7/7 were british muslims then and the pilots on 9/11 were trained in america
Which is massively different to the shite you first claimed.
lets not get penikity pete
Yeah let's not allow facts to get in the way.
lifes too short
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What a load of shite. 7/7 weren't cockneys. 9/11 weren't Americans.
7/7 were british muslims then and the pilots on 9/11 were trained in america
Which is massively different to the shite you first claimed.
lets not get penikity pete
Yeah let's not allow facts to get in the way.
lifes too short
that's why I use my commas sparingly
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What a load of shite. 7/7 weren't cockneys. 9/11 weren't Americans.
7/7 were british muslims then and the pilots on 9/11 were trained in america
Which is massively different to the shite you first claimed.
lets not get penikity pete
Yeah let's not allow facts to get in the way.
lifes too short
that's why I use my commas sparingly
I havent used a comma in this thread
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What a load of shite. 7/7 weren't cockneys. 9/11 weren't Americans.
7/7 were british muslims then and the pilots on 9/11 were trained in america
So not Cockneys or Americans then?
your online ,,,,,,,,,,,google it ,,,,,, they were leeds fans
Were they really? Or is that something else you've made up?
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He didn't post that, he just said he didn't use commas in this thread and he never ever makes anything up.
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say they happened to be Leeds United fans - would that be the most vital fact to pull from the atrocity?
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say they happened to be Leeds United fans - would that be the most vital fact to pull from the atrocity?
no,,,,,,,,,the point is if the IS struck in or outside VP on saturday , they would more than likely be homegrown terrorists
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If Russia launched WW3, we may not get relegated this season...it may be our only option.
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If Russia launched WW3, we may not get relegated this season...it may be our only option.
they havent even got the bottle to shoot a turkish plane down
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Girlfriend in a comma I know,,,, I know,,,, it's serious.
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say they happened to be Leeds United fans - would that be the most vital fact to pull from the atrocity?
no,,,,,,,,,the point is if the IS struck in or outside VP on saturday , they would more than likely be homegrown terrorists
Unlike the 19 hijackers on 9/11?
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(http://s12.postimg.org/a8zhpfc6x/dinosaurpunctuation.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/a8zhpfc6x/)
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say they happened to be Leeds United fans - would that be the most vital fact to pull from the atrocity?
no,,,,,,,,,the point is if the IS struck in or outside VP on saturday , they would more than likely be homegrown terrorists
Unlike the 19 hijackers on 9/11?
MORE than likely
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say they happened to be Leeds United fans - would that be the most vital fact to pull from the atrocity?
no,,,,,,,,,the point is if the IS struck in or outside VP on saturday , they would more than likely be homegrown terrorists
Unlike the 19 hijackers on 9/11?
MORE than likely
Based on what? Because what you said about the 9/11 hijackers has very quickly and easily been pointed out to be nonsense.
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If Russia launched WW3, we may not get relegated this season...it may be our only option.
they havent even got the bottle to shoot a turkish plane down
Oh, right. Looks like we're getting relegated then.
I wish we had someone who'd have the bottle to shoot and send 3 other teams down.
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What a load of shite. 7/7 weren't cockneys. 9/11 weren't Americans.
7/7 were british muslims then and the pilots on 9/11 were trained in america
Which is massively different to the shite you first claimed.
lets not get penikity pete
Yeah let's not allow facts to get in the way.
lifes too short
that's why I use my commas sparingly
I havent used a comma in this thread
Well you've missed out an apostrophe in that sentence; oh, I'm turning into pernickety pete.
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Girlfriend in a comma I know,,,, I know,,,, it's serious.
Comma Comedian
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Comma Police
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I once owned a Comma Van.
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a person wearing a suicide belt that wants to commit suicide and kill a few others at a premier league ground doesnt need to get inside the stadium
Now that the club has publicly said get there for half 2 ,he or she can just join the big queues at 2.30 ,,,,,and detonate the belt when near the front
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What a load of shite. 7/7 weren't cockneys. 9/11 weren't Americans.
7/7 were british muslims then and the pilots on 9/11 were trained in america
So not Cockneys or Americans then?
your online ,,,,,,,,,,,google it ,,,,,,they were leeds fans
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What a load of shite. 7/7 weren't cockneys. 9/11 weren't Americans.
7/7 were british muslims then and the pilots on 9/11 were trained in america
Which is massively different to the shite you first claimed.
lets not get penikity pete
Yeah let's not allow facts to get in the way.
lifes too short
that's why I use my commas sparingly
I havent used a comma in this thread
See above.
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Karmacomma
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Look out for nosers with a plan
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Comma Police
Comma Comma Comma
Comma Chamelion
Your secret codes
Your secret codes
GCHQ are onto you and soon you'll go
To Gauntinimo
To Gauntinimo
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some people need to seriously get a life
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some people need to seriously get a life
I believe the yoof call it bantz. ;)
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some people need to seriously get a life
I believe the yoof call it bantz. ;)
point taken
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some people need to seriously get a life
I believe the yoof call it bantz. ;)
point taken
Hopefully we'll take all 3.
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some people need to seriously get a life
I believe the yoof call it bantz. ;)
point taken
Hopefully we'll take all 3.
fingers crossed jon ,,,,,,a points not enough
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I know you're well aware that the comma key is 10th from the left on the second row up, but can I please respectfully let you know that the apostrophe key is on the next row up, and 12th from the left (including the Caps Lock key). Yes that's it, the one that's looking very clean on your keyboard. ;)
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Say,,,,,,,What,,,,,,Now,,,,,,
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!!!!!!
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With all the extra security how did they manage not only to get a flare in the ground but then manage to throw it on the pitch?
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As long as you had stuff in a villa plastic bag they didn't seach you. Either do the searches or dont...
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Didn't search me at all - just gave me that look of "go on we can see you're no terrorist, no need to open your jacket we know what the bulge round your middle is".
I'm sure getting fans in early resulted in more fizzy pop and chips being sold though.
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Great!
A boost to the Jan transfer budget!!
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only security i came across yesterday was asked to open my jacket
no search or body patting or anything
although i was asked if i had anything in my pocket ,,, i said no but i lied ,,,, i had my wallet in there ,some loose change ,, and my phone and my front door key
i could have had a hand grenade in my pocket ,,,,,, or a kalashnikov rifle in my underpants
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a kalashnikov rifle in my underpants
Or were you just pleased to see her?
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a kalashnikov rifle in my underpants
Or were you just pleased to see her?
it was hard not to be
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although i was asked if i had anything in my pocket ,,, i said no but i lied ,,,, i had eight commas ,some loose change ,, and my phone and my front door key
i could have had apostrophes,,,, or a kalashnikov rifle in my underpants
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only security i came across yesterday was asked to open my jacket
no search or body patting or anything
Yep, we're royally fucked when ISIS suicide bombers discover jumpers!