Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: brian green on November 04, 2015, 08:57:11 AM
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There have been some very impressive and memorable winners of this prestigious trophy over the years.
"I invented the bicycle kick"
"The name of the new Witton Lane stand came as a complete surprise to me"
"Aston Villa shares will be sold at a very affordable price"
"Villa fans are fickle"
"We are going to Moscow to win"
"The comments about losing to Liverpool were intended as a joke"
"We were brilliant"
"I knew nothing about the (alleged) bullying"
But this year we have a cascade of worthy entrants for the Porkie of the Year and I predict it will go right down to the wire.
"We will definitely not be in a relegation battle next season"
"We will definitely not be in a relegation battle this season"
" I had no say in the choice of players we bought"
"Gabriel Agbonlahor came off at White Hart Lane at half time because he was injured"
May the biggest Pork Pie win.
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"I thought we played some scintillating football".
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My personal favourite
"When things aren't going well, fans bay for that type of blood," Fox said.
"That's not the way that I or the owner are going to make a decision. It's a false narrative."
So wrong that from that second onwards I've felt he doesn't have a feel for the game or know fuck all about it. A money man, pure and simple.
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"I picked the team I thought would do the most damage to Tottenham"
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"I didn't tell the team to play like that."
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My personal favourite
"When things aren't going well, fans bay for that type of blood," Fox said.
"That's not the way that I or the owner are going to make a decision. It's a false narrative."
So wrong that from that second onwards I've felt he doesn't have a feel for the game or know fuck all about it. A money man, pure and simple.
Or the traditional vote of confidence issued two weeks before the unfortunate/incompetent manager gets the bullet, just using a different turn of phrase to that which we're used to.
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"It worked to a certain extent with Scotty Sinclair who I thought was outstanding and caused them all sorts of problems."
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"Birmingham City Football Club."
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Gabby's really hurting. It's indigestion Kev.
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I picked a side that I thought would do well against Spurs.
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I am polishing my spectacles.
Sorry, I'm in the hairdressers.
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Don't think there are any of the awards this year... as Gabby has eaten them all.
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"We were excellent".
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We deliberately played shit in the first half so that we'd surprise Small Heath in the second.
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My personal favourite
"When things aren't going well, fans bay for that type of blood," Fox said.
"That's not the way that I or the owner are going to make a decision. It's a false narrative."
So wrong that from that second onwards I've felt he doesn't have a feel for the game or know fuck all about it. A money man, pure and simple.
Or the traditional vote of confidence issued two weeks before the unfortunate/incompetent manager gets the bullet, just using a different turn of phrase to that which we're used to.
Then it was a very stupid comment to make, criticising the fans, when they've had another run of getting fucked by everyone for months on end.
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"Did you hear that booing? I started it"
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We go again
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I'd like to nominate the large traditional pork pie sold at the packington pork farm shop at hopwas (half way between Whittington and Tamworth). Its an absoute vessel of pleasure, Im sure it has something to do with the good quality of life those pigs have. Bit of English mustard, served with a bottle of old speckled hen. Go on then....
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Anything Sherwood said
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Hold on to your seats!
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Randy's still as passionate about AVFC as he was when he took the club over.
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They'll be singing my name again in 4 weeks time
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"I just need a wee bitty more money Randy and we'll get into the Champion's League"
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My personal favourite
"When things aren't going well, fans bay for that type of blood," Fox said.
"That's not the way that I or the owner are going to make a decision. It's a false narrative."
So wrong that from that second onwards I've felt he doesn't have a feel for the game or know fuck all about it. A money man, pure and simple.
Or the traditional vote of confidence issued two weeks before the unfortunate/incompetent manager gets the bullet, just using a different turn of phrase to that which we're used to.
Then it was a very stupid comment to make, criticising the fans, when they've had another run of getting fucked by everyone for months on end.
Is it criticising the fans?
To me it's a recognition that the fans are emotionally tied into this in a way he and the rest of the board aren't and never will be (nor should they be from the point of view running things rationally.)
Isn't it true that when things turn to shit, it tends to be the manager in the firing line, regardless of club?
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"I am gutted about the defeat against (insert any team name here) but I cannot wait for Saturday as I know we can turn it around"
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We go again
That's not a lie though is it? We do go again - maybe in a crap way but we do.
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"We will definitely not be in a relegation battle this (or at the time of speaking next) season"
That's the winner for me.
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They'll be singing my name again in 4 weeks time
"Sherwood, you're a twat
Sherwood, Sherwood you're a twat"
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"We will definitely not be in a relegation battle this (or at the time of speaking next) season"
That's the winner for me.
I'm sure Lambert mumbled something similar at some point.
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We'll win against Swansea
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My personal favourite
"When things aren't going well, fans bay for that type of blood," Fox said.
"That's not the way that I or the owner are going to make a decision. It's a false narrative."
So wrong that from that second onwards I've felt he doesn't have a feel for the game or know fuck all about it. A money man, pure and simple.
Or the traditional vote of confidence issued two weeks before the unfortunate/incompetent manager gets the bullet, just using a different turn of phrase to that which we're used to.
Then it was a very stupid comment to make, criticising the fans, when they've had another run of getting fucked by everyone for months on end.
Is it criticising the fans?
To me it's a recognition that the fans are emotionally tied into this in a way he and the rest of the board aren't and never will be (nor should they be from the point of view running things rationally.)
Isn't it true that when things turn to shit, it tends to be the manager in the firing line, regardless of club?
Yes it is criticising the fans to me. Like for some unknown reason they are able to see things from a more intelligent perspective, that's what the ''baying for blood'' comment sounds like to me, like we are a mob who want appeasing. It was and is complete bollocks, we watched it week by week and understood the situation a lot more than Fox did or does, he was slow to react until a point where the position was completely untenable.
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My personal favourite
"When things aren't going well, fans bay for that type of blood," Fox said.
"That's not the way that I or the owner are going to make a decision. It's a false narrative."
So wrong that from that second onwards I've felt he doesn't have a feel for the game or know fuck all about it. A money man, pure and simple.
Or the traditional vote of confidence issued two weeks before the unfortunate/incompetent manager gets the bullet, just using a different turn of phrase to that which we're used to.
Then it was a very stupid comment to make, criticising the fans, when they've had another run of getting fucked by everyone for months on end.
Is it criticising the fans?
To me it's a recognition that the fans are emotionally tied into this in a way he and the rest of the board aren't and never will be (nor should they be from the point of view running things rationally.)
Isn't it true that when things turn to shit, it tends to be the manager in the firing line, regardless of club?
Yes it is criticising the fans to me. Like for some unknown reason they are able to see things from a more intelligent perspective, that's what the ''baying for blood'' comment sounds like to me, like we are a mob who want appeasing. It was and is complete bollocks, we watched it week by week and understood the situation a lot more than Fox did or does, he was slow to react until a point where the position was completely untenable.
I would have said dispassionate rather than intelligent, which is what I actually want from him (to be dispassionate.)
I completely agree it went on too long, I'd have had Lambert out of the door as soon as they'd got back from the Spurs game. (Wonder if that had anything to do with the sudden parting of the ways between Faulkner and Randy?)
The flip side could be to say that it took something to stand up to his new boss and say that the new contract had been a bad idea and Lambert had got to go.
How would the last 18 months have panned out if we'd had as close to free reign as we're ever likely to get to look for a new manager in summer '14?
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I would have fired Lambert after the 8-0 at Chelsea. The ******.
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I would have fired Lambert after the 8-0 at Chelsea. The c***.
So you'd have fired him less than halfway through his first season, for our the first defeat in 7 and we were also in a semi-final?
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I would have fired Lambert after the 8-0 at Chelsea. The c***.
I think by the end of January, losing to Wigan, Spurs, Chelsea, Bradford, Millwall, Southampton who were relegation strugglers and also Newcastle who I think were also relegation strugglers was enough. He should have gone then.
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'I'm not leaving. I'm staying at the football club and I can't wait for the start of the season and captaining this great football club.'
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'I'm not leaving. I'm staying at the football club and I can't wait for the start of the season and captaining this great football club.'
The winner.
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I have to install a winning mentality.
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What's a Tim Sherwood team?
A winning one.
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I would have fired Lambert after the 8-0 at Chelsea. The c***.
So you'd have fired him less than halfway through his first season, for our the first defeat in 7 and we were also in a semi-final?
The previous Saturday we'd played Liverpool off the park at Anfield.
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I would have fired Lambert after the 8-0 at Chelsea. The c***.
I think by the end of January, losing to Wigan, Spurs, Chelsea, Bradford, Millwall, Southampton who were relegation strugglers and also Newcastle who I think were also relegation strugglers was enough. He should have gone then.
this, the bradford debarcle on its own should have been enough
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'I'm not leaving. I'm staying at the football club and I can't wait for the start of the season and captaining this great football club.'
The winner.
Unless Doug ever claimed that he was going to respect the achievements of the 80-82 squads and build on them, then I doubt that there's ever been or ever will be a bigger steaming pile of bullshit delivered in association with this football club.
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My silly topic has unexpectedly revealed a core of truth. We have been lied to systematically over a long period.
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'I'm not leaving. I'm staying at the football club and I can't wait for the start of the season and captaining this great football club.'
The winner.
Unless Doug ever claimed that he was going to respect the achievements of the 80-82 squads and build on them, then I doubt that there's ever been or ever will be a bigger steaming pile of bullshit delivered in association with this football club.
The fanfare about his new contract in January when the club knew that there was such a low buyout clause was a pretty serious betrayal of the fans' trust on the club's part too in my opinion.
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'I'm not leaving. I'm staying at the football club and I can't wait for the start of the season and captaining this great football club.'
The winner.
Yes, this one is unbeatable.
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"The fans will be singing my name in 4 weeks"
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'I'm not leaving. I'm staying at the football club and I can't wait for the start of the season and captaining this great football club.'
The winner.
Unless Doug ever claimed that he was going to respect the achievements of the 80-82 squads and build on them, then I doubt that there's ever been or ever will be a bigger steaming pile of bullshit delivered in association with this football club.
The fanfare about his new contract in January when the club knew that there was such a low buyout clause was a pretty serious betrayal of the fans' trust on the club's part too in my opinion.
The only thing I'll say in defence of that one is that at the time we were desperate for anything remotely resembling good news and in the context of everything else at the time, this was. That they milked it as far as they did is where any problem lies.
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"Birmingham City Football Club."
That's an oxymoron not a pork pie.
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The entire pre season "#SayitlikeSherwood" marketing campaign. Like these masterpieces:
(http://www.suttoncoldfieldobserver.co.uk/images/localworld/ugc-images/276288/Article/images/26851025/10449819-large.jpg)
(http://cdn.soccerbible.com/media/15373/aston-villa-kit-launch-15-16-sayitlikesherwood-6.jpg)
(http://www.avfc.co.uk/javaImages/b0/1e/0,,10265~13835952,00.jpg)
(http://cdn.soccerbible.com/media/15374/aston-villa-kit-launch-15-16-sayitlikesherwood-2_2.jpg)
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Soundbites'R'Us
Or as the rest of the same world knows it, marketing bollocks.
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This picture does tell a story.
(http://. http://www.suttoncoldfieldobserver.co.uk/images/localworld/ugc-images/276288/Article/images/26851025/10449819-large.jpg)
Delph removing his captains arm band.
Benteke is saying "beem me up Kloppy"
Sinclair pointing at a c***.
Jack thinking we're in the shit.
Gabby saying "shh, you ain't see me, right"
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Almost everything that came out of Sherwoods mouth for the majority of this season.
Almost everything that came out of Lamberts mouth from Jan-Feb. I'm paraphrasing but such Lambert classics as "We had 60% possession. We dominated the game and deserved to win. We didn't deserve to lose 3-0."
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The chaps on MOTD2 have just noted Remi's team selection and what Tim had said about the French players, especially Veretout, not being ready for first team action. 'I guess we'll find out.'
We certainly will. Merde to the team today!