Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: dave.woodhall on October 19, 2015, 01:15:38 AM
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http://thebirminghampress.com/2015/10/saturday-bloody-saturday/
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Another good one, Dave.
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Good point about the betting markets. When more than one bookmaker is offering odds of 10/1 against us beating a team which has been misfiring on all fronts, current champions or not, then it is clear that we are perceived as a basket case.
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The bit about Stoke and Palace makes me sick to my stomach. Doesn't make it any less true though. Unfortunately, we have to be envious of their current stability.
Thanks Randy.
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Yes rotten to the core. Whilst Sherwood is a symptom of the underlying problem it is high time the way the club is run came under close scrutiny.
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Yes rotten to the core. Whilst Sherwood is a symptom of the underlying problem it is high time the way the club is run came under close scrutiny.
Exactly. Bomb squad to moneyball, it appears to me that our managers get plenty of suggestions on how to do their job.
Whilst I agree in theory to buying promising players and flogging them at a huge profit. Id like the manager to be making the call. Or at least somebody the manager has placed his trust in.
That said, Sherwood's position is untenable, time to go.
As ugly as it could get (although unlikely due to compensation) I hope Sherwood stays true to form and spills the beans on life at Villa Park.
Another good read Dave.
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What's so soul destroying is how predictably shite we've become. There was never any doubt that Chelsea would win on Saturday and that they'd not have to work too hard or play particularly well for it either. This could've been written on Friday evening quite honestly.
This is a club that has totally lost it's pride and it's purpose. Of everything that can be levelled over the last 5 years this makes me saddest of all for the Villa. Thanks Randy.
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Predictable doesn't even begin to do it justice.
From the point of view of writing an article, it's a good job that there's so much wrong, because otherwise I reckon Dave could just do a cut and paste job from week to week, or at least have them on a 3 or 4 week cycle.
What's the old saying, the more things change, the more they stay the same?
It looks like a I can revive my "favourite" bet from last season. Aston Villa 0. >:(
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I thought on Saturday we played a little better in all honesty and felt slightly more optimistic.
I'm not having TS saying that we 'sold' Benteke. He wanted to leave as did The Snake and Cleverley. Even though we regularly lose our better players these days not one of them have been 'sold'. They've all wanted to leave and we received the appropriate compensation for em.
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If a player leaves and we receive compensation for him that means he's been sold. Why make out its something different?
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Its all semantics but I read it that TS by saying we "sold Benteke" is suggesting the Club could've kept the players but instead decided to sell. Like he'd have stayed. Well maybe if we'd not embarrassed ourselves at Wembley he might of.
Same with Delph and Cleverley. Wasn't he the one to publicly spill the beans on Benteke's release clause figure (although I'm sure Tekkers agent was telling the world too), Delph h Club got shafted and Cleverley wasn't even ours anyway.
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you get the feeling, the Holte next saturday will not take much to give their damning verdict, i feel for the players , as Tim aint showing any class, or manageral know how,
I do not want us to loose but , dont it look like we'll scrape a draw at best, surely tims tenure ends 16:50 Saturday 24th October?
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The only one Sherwood could have been remotely surprised about was Cleverley, who according to a lot of people was beyond shit for the most of his stay.
With the release clauses Benteke and Ratus Ratus had, they were almost certain to go and if he didn't know it when he joined, he sure as hell would have quickly found out. And as for his line about he wouldn't have allowed the release clauses, well thank god he wasn't negotiating the contracts because then we'd have probably lost Benteke for a comparative pittance and Delph on free when the refused to sign their contract extensions.
And I'm convinced that Guaye was signed as Delph's replacement before he did his "will he won't he?" bollocks
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Spot on Dave.
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Although he did openly say at the start of pre-season that he thought Benteke was going to stay.
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Because of the way we are run, why dosent Mr Fox say T S is in it for the long haul and back him to get us out of the championship. No pressure for the rest of the season develops new squad members at lest it would give us some hope, because what we had in August has totally disappeared.
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Wasn't it Sherwood who made Benteke's release clause public?
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Clear, honest, truthful stuff Dave.
I could weep at the predictably shite, easy fodder we have turned into for other teams...and not just the "big" clubs.
Leicester, Stoke and the bitters all took maximum points from those games.
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Wasn't it Sherwood who made Benteke's release clause public?
It was indeed
He also said Liverpool was the wrong club for him then when questioned on it after we sold him he denied it ,,,he just talks utter crap on a constant basis.
It's one thing having to sit with gloating Liverpool /United fans but when your in the office with Palace fans and your envious then thats a whole new world of shit
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I think the question of Sherwood's brief for the year is crucial. If Sherwood is saying the hierarchy are happy with finishing 17th with a policy of buying in players that will just have a resale value (rather than actually being equipped for the EPL) and us only spending £7 million net to stay in the division I think that is extremely damning and shows just how rotten things have become. I am not defending Sherwood as I do not think he is equipped to manage us (or any other PL team for that matter) and I have no doubt a better manager would get more out of our current squad. I am hoping that this blip (nosedive) is actually down to Sherwood although I fear despite the seemingly encouraging outward internal appointments that is sadly not the case.
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I can't see Sherwood falling on his own sword; someone else will have to wield it. How long will it take Tom Fox, who was convinced / allowed himself to be convinced that Sherwood was the only man for the job, to do the deed? Perhaps, as you suggest, Sherwood's recent statements will push him into action.
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De-press-ing reading!
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http://thebirminghampress.com/2015/10/saturday-bloody-saturday/
Good article thanks. Some painful home truths in there. My opinion is this.
Sherwood had the rug pulled from under him with the sales of Benteke and Hissing Sid. He would have been planning the coming season very different to how it panned out. He has clearly been given players to work with chosen not by him but by money men not football people. It's a recipe for disaster and it is panning out that way with glaringly obvious predictably. One thing I do blame Sherwood for 100%. Not replacing Guzan who he KNEW wasn't premier league standard.
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Wasn't it Sherwood who made Benteke's release clause public?
It was indeed
He also said Liverpool was the wrong club for him then when questioned on it after we sold him he denied it ,,,he just talks utter crap on a constant basis.
It's one thing having to sit with gloating Liverpool /United fans but when your in the office with Palace fans and your envious then thats a whole new world of shit
Ouch!!! I feel your pain brother.
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Although he did openly say at the start of pre-season that he thought Benteke was going to stay.
He must have been the old person on the planet who thought that