Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: dave.woodhall on October 05, 2015, 01:11:39 AM
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The saga continues.
http://thebirminghampress.com/2015/10/before-the-clocks-go-back/
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And with that I think our esteemed fanzine editor has nailed his Sherwood Out colours to the mast.
And I fully agree.
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one of your best, how depressing it is to read the demise of the club described so acurately.
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Nailed. I hope Fox agrees too. That line up was terrible and everyone knew it.
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Yes. Needs to be moved on. We waited too long with Lambert. Another 6 games and we be 10 points off safety.
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Those last three lines are the most damning of all, and I defy anyone to argue against them.
De-press-ingly familiar.
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good article, agree with all of it
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That piece should be framed and put, no, nail gunned with masonry nails, to the wall of the office of the Villa CEO and remain there like our cartoon alter ego Guy Fawkes' head on a spike.
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After the Mcliesh and Lambert years you think it has to get better , sure you lose some of our best players but we spent a significant amount and yet Sherwood with every game is making the previous 2 managers look more and more competent !
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Great article!
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After the Mcliesh and Lambert years you think it has to get better , sure you lose some of our best players but we spent a significant amount and yet Sherwood with every game is making the previous 2 managers look more and more competent !
When you're completely incompetent, you will make the vaguely competent look good.
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Excellent summing up. He needs to go for his own sake as much as anyone else's.
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One of your best Dave. The pity is Sherwood has bought some good players,just as Lambert did,but he appears to have very little idea how to forge them into a competent unit. In fact he has no idea at all.
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Rodgers and Advocaat lost their jobs yesterday. They say things come in 3s. Fingers and everything else crossed.
By the way I see that Rodgers had a 50% win ratio at Liverpool, and 41% at both Watford and Swansea. A win ratio we can only dream of a Villa manager having!
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Spot on Dave - as said above, one of your best .
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It's sadly 100 per cent spot on.
I wish it wasn't
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Dripping with sarcasm - love it!!
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The most pertinent line for me is "But I do believe a club with such available resources shouldn’t find competing with Southampton, Swansea and Crystal Palace beyond them". Those three clubs have come into the Premier League and in a short space of time, have left us in their rear view mirror.
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Your strongest article Dave in a long time and reflects accurately how things have turned around and how very quickly. I said it when I started the match thread how ludicrous the team selection looked and it didn't take a genius to figure out what he was attempting at home against the world power Stoke City. Depressing didn't do it justice and it just left us all with that sinking feeling and in he knowledge of here "we go again".
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Your strongest article Dave in a long time and reflects accurately how things have turned around and how very quickly. I said it when I started the match thread how ludicrous the team selection looked and it didn't take a genius to figure out what he was attempting at home against the world power Stoke City. Depressing didn't do it justice and it just left us all with that sinking feeling and in he knowledge of here "we go again".
If he was playing 3-5-2 or 5-3-2 or 3-5-1-1 surely Bacuna, for all his limitations, is a far better attack minded option than Hutton.
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Well done Dave, sums up my feelings entirely.
As soon as the team was announced on Saturday, everyone around me were in disbelief. Surely, if us fans can see it, why can't TS see it? I very nearly walked out when Stoke scored as I just couldn't see where a goal was coming from for us - how disturbing is that.
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Spot on Dave - as said above, one of your best .
Agreed.
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More astute than ever Mr Woodhall!
Along with many other views on this site in the last few days, it's reassuring to know that it's not just me who feels like this!
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If Daves articles were election seats then this one would be a bellwether article. Even the most patient of us are growing tired of this nonsense now. There has to be change of some sort.
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Spot on Dave.
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I realise I'm probably in a minority of 1 here, but I'm still inclined to back him either to a) the point we get adrift right at the bottom (6-8 pts), or b) if we are still bottom 3 at Christmas. We have to give him a chance. If I was ceo, I'd tell him that. We'll back you to this point, we're giving you a chance to turn it round, despite the current position being unacceptable. Either sort it out or you're gone if we get to either scenario a or b above.
Edited to add that I'd also be sounding out potential replacements to step in if we do have to pull the trigger any time soon.
Who knows? A win against shaky Chelsea could maybe be a turning point for us. But I'm sure we all know how that script is likely to play out.
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I realise I'm probably in a minority of 1 here, but I'm still inclined to back him either to a) the point we get adrift right at the bottom (6-8 pts), or b) if we are still bottom 3 at Christmas. We have to give him a chance. If I was ceo, I'd tell him that. We'll back you to this point, we're giving you a chance to turn it round, despite the current position being unacceptable. Either sort it out or you're gone if we get to either scenario a or b above.
Fair point of view. We could be adrift at the bottom soon enough though, unfortunately.
Like you I feel a bit weird about sacking a manager this early in the season but Sherwood is giving us very little ammunition to back him.
Something needs to change and soon. If its not results it just has to be manager. No matter how painful that will be to go through the whole thing yet again. If I learnt anything from my overly long support for Lambert it is that things will not get better if you just keep the faith. Sometimes they just keep getting worse no matter how long you wait.
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Very good Dave.
Like many on H&V I'm now in the Sherwood Out camp but I doubt whether Fox will make the decision this soon. Remember that Sherwood was Fox's appointment, after a long meeting at Sherwood's home.
Adamant from the outset that he wanted to make a long-term appointment, Fox travelled to Hertfordshire to meet Sherwood at his home and after three hours of talks drove back to the Midlands convinced he had found the right man to re-energise Villa and galvanise a group of players whose confidence was shot to bits.
I fear that it'll be a few more weeks before Fox sacks his man - as he surely will.